that superchat ended his entire argument 1:54:04. 😂😂 Once you say Cristiano was a better "footballer" than Messi (he said it in a video in 2021 BTW it's on UA-cam) Once you say that, your WHOLE argument about choosing Hazard over Salah is DEAD. Tbh, if you think CR7 is better than Messi, you need to think Haaland is better than Henry too 😂😂
What do you expect from a fella who says "pause" at least 2-3 times every time he talks. God forbid anyone should ever think he's not the world's foremost gangster-hetero.
It's a diversion from the fact Slot is humiliating Arteta in his very first season & without spending a penny. All over social media, the AFC fans have changed the discussion from "Arteta must finish above Slot & win the PL" - to "Salah vs Henry". It's a distraction from Arteta potentially failng to win the PL in 6yrs & Slot winning it in his first season... . .. .
@@potjhm1 KONATE AND SALIBA ARE TWO TOTTALY DIFFERENT CBS BY THE WAY so its pointless comparing an agressive cb to a more ball playing compare him to gabriel instead(Gabriel still better btw just saying
We're at the point where literally anything positive you want to say about Salah makes you a 'stat merchant' at this point. I guess him dragging us to winning or saving us from losing is also just irrelevant now because if you're doing anything that isn't dribbling or flicks and tricks you're just a stats guy. Both stats merchants and eyetest merchants have ruined modern day football discourse.
Anyone who moans about "stat merchants" is really just self-conscious about the fact that they don't like/understand numbers or analytics. It's copium/projection.
Exactly been saying this. The disrespect Salah gets is crazy one of the PL best at least us Liverpool fans appreciate how good he really is and his playmaking isn’t talked about enough either and the fact Salah could’ve had way more assists if it wasn’t for Nunez missing chances left right and centre for the past 2 seasons
@@nillykk8939 no, there are definitely people who only rely on stats they see being posted on twitter and base all their arguments around them. Sometimes its them misinterpreting stats, being misled or misinterpreting them without context. Other times there are things in football that stats either can't account for or would be really difficult to measure. At the end of the day we aren't analysts and no amount of tifo football videos will make us understand it fully. My issue here is people relying exclusively on what they call the eyetest or the stats, as if you can't have both. That and reducing everything Salah has done over the years to 'just a G/A merchant'
Ain’t a crazy Debate both players are very different Mahrez more technically gifted and better on the eye but Salah is efficient and consistently good year in year out and breaks record after record. We all know Mo Salah is levels you don’t produce them numbers just be called shit and “stat merchant”
Mahrez is better than salah, for me. Numbers or stats are secondary for me. Tech and flair matter to me. Mahrez ability was so good and its better than salah. For me Mahrez over salah. But I rate salah for his consistency and his mindset.
@ thing is that is fine they are both very good players of the league but we really need to categorise which is which are legends of the league and which are cult hero’s too many so called legends
Chelsea fan here and saying Mahrez is better than Salah is criminal. Mahrez is class but he's not on Salah level. Plus Flawless saying Lamps don't make he's top5 PL midfielders is a disgrace.
Salah disrespect is amazing. 8 years of excellence, amazingly effective player, goals with left right foot and header, assisting alot ,run through every LB u loves, and cares but apparently people doesnt rate him high enough because hes not doing unnecessary shimmy dribble left and right.
These Arsenal fans acting like Henry was Messi Ronaldo combined. Let's be honest. The massively overrated invincible's never won a single UCL and only got 90pts. They'd struggle to make top 4 in modern oil state era.
1:29:34 facts. I’ve always thought kdb wasn’t top 5 midfielders I’ve ever seen play for city. Class player still, that’s just the levels of players city have had recently
@@rethabilefeni4694why? Literally no one who’s played against all 3 thinks Lampard is better lol Salah is performing at 32 while Hazard is playing with Chunks and Filly
@@GR-rx5tx literally anyone who has played professional football and was successful in winning trophies outside of Liverpool thinks Salah is better than Hazard. there interview/sport analytic shows that focus on football. go see and hear what they had to say about Hazard. even Henry, an Arsenal legend, said he would have paid to watch Hazard weekly and this was recently. so don't get angry at me for using your logic.
@GR-rx5tx btw, Scholes retired before Lampard. Lampard was still playing professional football whilst Scholes was there watching Lampard win trophies. so again by your logic, Lampard was better than Scholes. don't get angry at me
Bumbaclart Hans Moleman has been a little weirdo about Liverpool for several years now. Talked shit on Klopp, Gerrard, Van Dijk, Salah, etc. Cheered on City stopping Liverpool and justifying their cheating. Only to flip and start crying Arsenal started challenging and wanting City banned. He also chatted complete shit on Suarez back in 2017, and I think again in 2020 on AFTV.
Nah we have eyes Maybe not great memory, but we have eyes. And obviously Salah if you take his full body of work is better, but those Prime Hazard years. He was better than Salah imo.
@@UltimateHibz you have eyes? Should start using them then 😂😂😂😂😂 Being a better footballer ain’t about how many players your can dribble past 😂😂😂😂😂 its about winning Trophies and breaking records.
I agree w flawless on KDB vs Bergkamp cause for me KDB isn’t even a midfielder he’s a second striker like Dennis … all his work is as a “midfielder” that’s why he gets overrated if he was considered a forward he’d be regular
Troopz is mad that Salah surpassed Henry goal tally in less matches. He’s doing nothing but rage baiting because deep down he can’t face the reality of their goat being surpassed. He’s going to be absolutely sick to his stomach when Salah smashes Henry’s 20/20 stat line and I’m here for it.
Henry is only AFCs best PL player. Stop making out he's overall the best PL player, bc he's not. MC fans say it's KDB. MU fans say it's Rooney. CFC fans say its Hazard etc etc....stop over hyping TH like he was Messi Maradona rolled into one.
As a united fan i think we are going to lose the next 3 games & to be real it depends how we lose the games if he is still being silly starting Bruno and that 9 then i cant back him if we lose them games oh and dalot also
Alright, let’s settle down Monts. Amorim is one of the best young upcoming coaches in the world. INEOS will give him time. Manager bounce is just a construct that isn’t a viable measurement. I’m glad we didn’t have a honeymoon period because that means he’s serious.
only liverpool fans rate salah, cause thats thier recent legends in thier succesful spell....where was liverpool before klopp ? thats right in the rubbish bin, liverpool fans dont know what happening, your best players are all ageing so its just a matter of time, before liverpool becomes shit again
Loool you lot are hilarious you’ve been saying this for years. If this is vvd and Salah aging they are still the best in the league/ world in their positions 😂 good one 🤛🏽
@@thaaLoverboyy9944 nah nearly everyone in my top 15 all played whilst he was in prem or before him. He’s a prem legend for sure, but his best years were at Madrid
Troopz doesn’t watch football is ball knowledge is atrocious “Liverpool were on ropes” they had 1 goal out of knowhere and the rest of the time we dominated them as expected
LOL the salah agenda from troopz is unreal. Man has 0 ball knowledge, is football only about looking good at dribbling to him? Montz literally pointed the flaws in all of his shit points
@kennethtan386 A part of football is about beauty, something that stats is trying to destroy. Football is played on a grass pitch with 22 men and a sphere ball, not on Microsoft excel. Salah is a top player. Unfortunately, no matter how many goals he scores or trophies he wins, overtime there have been many better FOOTBALLERS better than him. I know you didn't mention numbers but that's a key reason why salah gets put in all time convos. There's players like Ronaldinho Zidane etc that got less numbers than him but are better footballers. Even in PL I'll have mahrez ahead of him
@ and to you and people like troopz football is about skills, the eye test. Salah may not have as good technical ability as the players you mentioned. But the fact is stats show that he is far far more effective on the pitch than some of the names mentioned. I’m not saying he is better than the likes of ronaldo, henry. But some of the names they are putting out is ridiculous, and there is such an obvious club and nostalgia bias here that needs to be called out on lol.
1:25:08 mahrez is better than salah. Won more prems and he won one with Leicester, you could go so far as to say better than hazard and no one can’t bat an eye. And I love hazard
I’m so glad that people are starting to put these Liverpool man in their place about Salah. Good player but your eyes will just tell you where the levels are.
If we just based on technicality and skills then prime Hazard is the Goat. Not Henry. Assna fans been feeding rival fans this overly stated narrative of Henry being the technical Goat. He was good but wasnt Hazard level . Eyetest dont lie but Fanboys do lie tho 😂 Thats the problemo. 😂
Salah wins the ballondor and puts everything to bed forever. 😂😂😂😂. Henry isn't technically better than prime Hazard and has like two good seasons and played with berkhamp, Vierra and shit .Overrated af 😂. Salah carried Liverpool multiple seasons and if he wins title this yr, he is the goat. Period. Look at his goals and assists.😂
The Salah disrespect is crazy
Im an Arsenal supporter however when Salah leaves Liverpool they will never recognise his achievements and give him his flowers 😢
Troops disrespect of Salah stinks lol😂 but then again he puts Ronaldo above Messi. Says it all
He contradicts his whole argument
I see nothing wrong in that
salah > mahrez
messi > cr7
that superchat ended his entire argument 1:54:04. 😂😂 Once you say Cristiano was a better "footballer" than Messi (he said it in a video in 2021 BTW it's on UA-cam)
Once you say that, your WHOLE argument about choosing Hazard over Salah is DEAD. Tbh, if you think CR7 is better than Messi, you need to think Haaland is better than Henry too 😂😂
What do you expect from a fella who says "pause" at least 2-3 times every time he talks. God forbid anyone should ever think he's not the world's foremost gangster-hetero.
Troopz you’re a clown buddy. Give Salah his credit and pipe down with these ridiculous takes. Such a hater
@@PatrickFreshBateman he's a clown cuz he has diff opinions 🤣 stop tryna force man into ratin dead food g
@onset6ix if salah is dead food then you don't know ball
SALAH 1 CL.....INVINCIBLES 0 CL's.
@@onset6ixman said dead food. Man shut up you nerd
@@onset6ix because he is a clown
"Scandinavian with acne" is nasty work from Monts 😂
as soon as mo hit henry esque numbers all arsenal content creators have turned from salah fans to haters
It's a diversion from the fact Slot is humiliating Arteta in his very first season & without spending a penny. All over social media, the AFC fans have changed the discussion from "Arteta must finish above Slot & win the PL" - to "Salah vs Henry". It's a distraction from Arteta potentially failng to win the PL in 6yrs & Slot winning it in his first season... . .. .
Fax
Troopz you've had a stinker. Same guy that says Saliba better than Van Dijk😂 (Arsenal Fan here)
Konate is better than any AFC cb nevermind VVD.
@@potjhm1awful take
@@potjhm1 KONATE IS ALWAYS INJURED NO 1 no2 he got sent off by KAI HAVERTZ i like konate but he is just good
@@potjhm1 KONATE AND SALIBA ARE TWO TOTTALY DIFFERENT CBS BY THE WAY so its pointless comparing an agressive cb to a more ball playing compare him to gabriel instead(Gabriel still better btw just saying
@@tipo444You can compare them, they're both CBs. Saliba is clear. No conversation. The debate is more Gabriel & Konate.
We're at the point where literally anything positive you want to say about Salah makes you a 'stat merchant' at this point. I guess him dragging us to winning or saving us from losing is also just irrelevant now because if you're doing anything that isn't dribbling or flicks and tricks you're just a stats guy.
Both stats merchants and eyetest merchants have ruined modern day football discourse.
Anyone who moans about "stat merchants" is really just self-conscious about the fact that they don't like/understand numbers or analytics. It's copium/projection.
Exactly been saying this. The disrespect Salah gets is crazy one of the PL best at least us Liverpool fans appreciate how good he really is and his playmaking isn’t talked about enough either and the fact Salah could’ve had way more assists if it wasn’t for Nunez missing chances left right and centre for the past 2 seasons
@@nillykk8939 no, there are definitely people who only rely on stats they see being posted on twitter and base all their arguments around them. Sometimes its them misinterpreting stats, being misled or misinterpreting them without context. Other times there are things in football that stats either can't account for or would be really difficult to measure. At the end of the day we aren't analysts and no amount of tifo football videos will make us understand it fully.
My issue here is people relying exclusively on what they call the eyetest or the stats, as if you can't have both. That and reducing everything Salah has done over the years to 'just a G/A merchant'
Flawlessly defends United like a lawyer defending a man caught in the act
Troopz is mad that Henry wasn't a big game player like Salah.
MAHREZ BETTER THAN SALAH IS CRAZY WTF
It’s actually not my man came from Leicester won a title went city won it all won his country a trophy scoring in a final it’s actually not crazy bro?
Ain’t a crazy Debate both players are very different Mahrez more technically gifted and better on the eye but Salah is efficient and consistently good year in year out and breaks record after record. We all know Mo Salah is levels you don’t produce them numbers just be called shit and “stat merchant”
@@nathansuresh4022 So would you argue that Chelsea's Eden Hazard is better than Arsenal's Thierry Henry??
Mahrez is better than salah, for me. Numbers or stats are secondary for me. Tech and flair matter to me. Mahrez ability was so good and its better than salah.
For me Mahrez over salah. But I rate salah for his consistency and his mindset.
@ thing is that is fine they are both very good players of the league but we really need to categorise which is which are legends of the league and which are cult hero’s too many so called legends
Troopz like a small child, he know Salah clear of all them
i didnt know troopz could fall this low i thought he knew fotball
Chelsea fan here and saying Mahrez is better than Salah is criminal. Mahrez is class but he's not on Salah level. Plus Flawless saying Lamps don't make he's top5 PL midfielders is a disgrace.
Salah disrespect is amazing.
8 years of excellence, amazingly effective player, goals with left right foot and header, assisting alot ,run through every LB u loves, and cares but apparently people doesnt rate him high enough because hes not doing unnecessary shimmy dribble left and right.
1:32:30 flawless I totally am fam 😂 This one was extra fire 🔥🔥
These Arsenal fans acting like Henry was Messi Ronaldo combined. Let's be honest. The massively overrated invincible's never won a single UCL and only got 90pts. They'd struggle to make top 4 in modern oil state era.
Troopz got the attitude when you tell a child Santa isn’t real and they won’t believe it 😂
The fact that united are still relying on Maguire and Evans tells you that their defence needs a rebuild, a lot of exoerience but no leader
CORRECTION: LIVERPOOL ARE 9 POINTS CLEAR!
This guy flawless funny as hell 🤣 improvement by retaining the ball more lol but conceding more
1:29:34 facts. I’ve always thought kdb wasn’t top 5 midfielders I’ve ever seen play for city. Class player still, that’s just the levels of players city have had recently
Hazard shouldn’t even be in debates with Salah anymore it’s disrespectful to Salah
Gerrard and Scholes shouldn't have been in the same conversation as Lampard. that was a huge disrespect to the football game and Lampard.
@@rethabilefeni4694why? Literally no one who’s played against all 3 thinks Lampard is better lol Salah is performing at 32 while Hazard is playing with Chunks and Filly
@@GR-rx5tx literally anyone who has played professional football and was successful in winning trophies outside of Liverpool thinks Salah is better than Hazard.
there interview/sport analytic shows that focus on football. go see and hear what they had to say about Hazard.
even Henry, an Arsenal legend, said he would have paid to watch Hazard weekly and this was recently.
so don't get angry at me for using your logic.
@GR-rx5tx btw, Scholes retired before Lampard. Lampard was still playing professional football whilst Scholes was there watching Lampard win trophies. so again by your logic, Lampard was better than Scholes. don't get angry at me
@@rethabilefeni4694 do you think Salah could ever get away with scoring 1 goal in a year? He is waaay more consistent
“Up the Arse?” 😂😂😂😂
It’s Up The Gun, these jokemen just making shit up
I swear Salah lives rent free in everyone’s head
Bumbaclart Hans Moleman has been a little weirdo about Liverpool for several years now. Talked shit on Klopp, Gerrard, Van Dijk, Salah, etc. Cheered on City stopping Liverpool and justifying their cheating. Only to flip and start crying Arsenal started challenging and wanting City banned.
He also chatted complete shit on Suarez back in 2017, and I think again in 2020 on AFTV.
Monz likes the sound of his own voice
Troopz you need to stay humble Salah has ripped you club every season relax yourself. Ur just butthurt ur still in stuck of phase 5
I anit ever seen these many superchats on the pod before, Big up the Panel UTC💙
Romz is the black carragher does everything to please rival fans
cuz he isn't tribalistic ?
@ no he’s just to scared of rivals to actually say what he thinks. He says what he thinks he “should” say.
Garbage Liverpool rep always.
@@mr.dareisayitdrifty8792 he has the same opinions on other platforms tho ? unbiased fan if u ask me
@@onset6ix"Unbiased" just because he praises your team a lot
It's crazy how some people will think hazard is better than Salah 😂😂u guys u are crazy what did hazard gave you
Nah we have eyes
Maybe not great memory, but we have eyes. And obviously Salah if you take his full body of work is better, but those Prime Hazard years. He was better than Salah imo.
he is tho, so is mahrez
@@onset6ixI’m a United fan and Salah is so clear it’s just you Chelsea fans that say that
@AmaanMalcom cheers 4 ur opinion mate
@@UltimateHibz you have eyes? Should start using them then 😂😂😂😂😂 Being a better footballer ain’t about how many players your can dribble past 😂😂😂😂😂 its about winning Trophies and breaking records.
I agree w flawless on KDB vs Bergkamp cause for me KDB isn’t even a midfielder he’s a second striker like Dennis … all his work is as a “midfielder” that’s why he gets overrated if he was considered a forward he’d be regular
Jesus & Kai. Top 6 attackers
Troopz is mad that Salah surpassed Henry goal tally in less matches. He’s doing nothing but rage baiting because deep down he can’t face the reality of their goat being surpassed. He’s going to be absolutely sick to his stomach when Salah smashes Henry’s 20/20 stat line and I’m here for it.
Salah is plays well when its contract renewal time
Troopz you ever disrespect Salah again then we’ll have to start bussin out the juj on you bmt
Love this panel and podcast keep up the great work mandem god bless
Is salah even a winger, he plays on the wing doesn't mean he is a winger
Salah is a striker, wide forward
Man goes Salah isn’t one of the greats. Clueless🤣🤣
Henry is only AFCs best PL player. Stop making out he's overall the best PL player, bc he's not. MC fans say it's KDB. MU fans say it's Rooney. CFC fans say its Hazard etc etc....stop over hyping TH like he was Messi Maradona rolled into one.
1:22:12 lol that guys just taking the piss with some folks on that list 💀
troopz that salah take is foolishness 🤣
blood goona be changing his name from flawless to USELESS in 2025..flawless what? everything about the guy is a flaw
Why does Troopz randomly get angry at Montz each episode?
Troopz get hussam back this liverpool fan dont know ball he hates Arsenal like the whole team did a train on his gal
As a united fan i think we are going to lose the next 3 games & to be real it depends how we lose the games if he is still being silly starting Bruno and that 9 then i cant back him if we lose them games oh and dalot also
Alright, let’s settle down Monts. Amorim is one of the best young upcoming coaches in the world. INEOS will give him time. Manager bounce is just a construct that isn’t a viable measurement. I’m glad we didn’t have a honeymoon period because that means he’s serious.
only liverpool fans rate salah, cause thats thier recent legends in thier succesful spell....where was liverpool before klopp ? thats right in the rubbish bin, liverpool fans dont know what happening, your best players are all ageing so its just a matter of time, before liverpool becomes shit again
lol😂 stay sour 😂😂😂
Loool you lot are hilarious you’ve been saying this for years. If this is vvd and Salah aging they are still the best in the league/ world in their positions 😂 good one 🤛🏽
Slot is pissing on Arteta in his first season & without spending a penny. The invincible's would struggle to make top 6 in the modern era.
Is it my eyes or does Flawless low-key look like Gabby Jesus?
😂😂😂
Its on the players ngl
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United ruins managers reputations
Quality stream big up to the mandem🤞🏾💯
Troopz is like a but hurt teenager 😂 makes me cringe but hurt coz sallah is xclear of arsenal 😂
Lampard interim 😂 days
No biased cos I am an arsenal fan but bergkamp and Henry the best players the prem have seen easy. I’d chuck cantona Rooney shearer in that mix too
And 08Cr7
@ can’t lie he doesn’t come into my top 10.
@@DineroDan You too young bro
@@thaaLoverboyy9944 nah nearly everyone in my top 15 all played whilst he was in prem or before him. He’s a prem legend for sure, but his best years were at Madrid
When I see the pod is 3+ hours long, my first thought is, Give it a rest montz
Arsenal fan rattled
Surprise Surprise
even gianfranco zola is way better than mo salah..
Troopz need to lay off the Hennessy and weed
Try shorten your vids, ain't nobody watching the whole 3 hr and a half.
The butcher is a vegan lol
Troopz doesn’t watch football is ball knowledge is atrocious “Liverpool were on ropes” they had 1 goal out of knowhere and the rest of the time we dominated them as expected
Troops yeah you can respect what Henry said but your forgetting my man played with messi also
LOL the salah agenda from troopz is unreal. Man has 0 ball knowledge, is football only about looking good at dribbling to him? Montz literally pointed the flaws in all of his shit points
@kennethtan386 A part of football is about beauty, something that stats is trying to destroy. Football is played on a grass pitch with 22 men and a sphere ball, not on Microsoft excel.
Salah is a top player. Unfortunately, no matter how many goals he scores or trophies he wins, overtime there have been many better FOOTBALLERS better than him. I know you didn't mention numbers but that's a key reason why salah gets put in all time convos. There's players like Ronaldinho Zidane etc that got less numbers than him but are better footballers. Even in PL I'll have mahrez ahead of him
@ and to you and people like troopz football is about skills, the eye test. Salah may not have as good technical ability as the players you mentioned. But the fact is stats show that he is far far more effective on the pitch than some of the names mentioned. I’m not saying he is better than the likes of ronaldo, henry. But some of the names they are putting out is ridiculous, and there is such an obvious club and nostalgia bias here that needs to be called out on lol.
01:28:00 @TROOPZTV You must be drunk on Henny or high on buuj if you think Riyad Mahrez is better than Mohammed Salah? Mad disrespect.
1:25:08 mahrez is better than salah. Won more prems and he won one with Leicester, you could go so far as to say better than hazard and no one can’t bat an eye. And I love hazard
So you are saying Mahrez is the best RW in prem history? lol not a chance. He wasn’t that consistent and nowhere near as consistent as Salah
I’m so glad that people are starting to put these Liverpool man in their place about Salah. Good player but your eyes will just tell you where the levels are.
Another case of misinformation. Do your research on Mane’s wife before the nonsense takes. Stop listening to the internet 😂😂
This might be troopz worst ever takes 😂😂😂
These man love using stats with Salah and Hazard however Gerrard and Lampard then stats go out the window
I wonder why… maybe hazard and Salah are forwards and Gerrard and lampard are midfielders? We aren’t this thick are we?
Troopz stinkerrrrr
If we just based on technicality and skills then prime Hazard is the Goat. Not Henry. Assna fans been feeding rival fans this overly stated narrative of Henry being the technical Goat. He was good but wasnt Hazard level . Eyetest dont lie but Fanboys do lie tho 😂 Thats the problemo. 😂
Salah wins the ballondor and puts everything to bed forever. 😂😂😂😂. Henry isn't technically better than prime Hazard and has like two good seasons and played with berkhamp, Vierra and shit .Overrated af 😂. Salah carried Liverpool multiple seasons and if he wins title this yr, he is the goat. Period. Look at his goals and assists.😂
Troops sly sterling says your a madman 😂😂😂 ua-cam.com/video/1T5iEBAmyFU/v-deo.htmlsi=aV2QZkTpeHsw8ldo
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