I love it. I've been more scribbly lately. I struggled for years trying to be perfect with each line. Now my characters are beginning to show movement. It's amazing. So excited......
Great Video, I started out sketchy like most artist but my 4 years in College Studying ID was helpful. my first year we had a combination. quick sketches using boxes to construct, using tools like Scott Robertson's book and even more technical perspective plotting for presentation drawings with elevation views being projected. after the first year I was just using a combination of Scott Robertson's method and loose sketching. Mike Matessi and Glenn Vilppu really helped me learn to loosen back up back in the early 2000's with force book and videos and Vilppu Drawing manual, and videos. for figure drawing its all about the gesture, finding that clear simple statement. I think in the end its great to be able to use both as you need them. in the words of Glen Vilppu "there are no rules only tools."
I have this book, it's very much a must for everyone who wants to learn constructing perspective and basing drawings on it. It's probably the best explanatory book when it comes to building grids. You wanted to ever draw anything in different perspective and how to move the camera around, this book has you covered. Worth it.
This is kinda the exact video I've been looking for. At around 8:15 you describe being stuck between structure and scribbles, and that's kinda where I feel I am as a beginner. I like the more loose, gestural types of drawing, as it feels more fun, freeing, and less stressful, but it feels "wrong". I think part of it may be seeing other people's work and not knowing how they got there, and "speed paints" giving a different perspective on people's drawing processes. I was watching a video by Michael Hampton where he mentioned how everyone nowadays seems so focused on drawing right the first time, and he guessed videos of people drawing and industrial design influencing modern character drawing as possible sources.
I am a primally digital artist and I did sink a lot of time into very precise structural drawings and anatomy to learn, and on digital where you can go back easily. So lately I've started most of my pictures and design work on paper, outside (when the weather permits), with just a pen, no erasing at all, just scribbling. It's helped me a lot!
I've basically always used Buscema's sketching style as seen in the Marvel book even without knowing it. Then as I started learning more fundamentals, I started drifting away from that. However, I always came. back to his method because it allows me to do more imaginative design work.
Thanks for this, Tim! Been struggling a bit with my sketching lately and sort of losing the joy of it, and this honestly really helped! Feeling inspired!
Tim, as always, I appreciate your videos so much. I've always had a sketchy style to my drawings and wished that I had a cooler hand like my industrial design peers. I love their clean look and always felt like mine lacked something because of the sketchiness. As I got older I just learned to appreciate my style a bit more (it was mine).
Yeah, I struggle with this. I actually love to scribble and think some of my scribble sketches are some of my best creations, tightening them up is where it usually goes wrong, but this is besides the point. For me, the struggle has been in validating this scribbly part of drawing, because it ventures close to what many have been taught to be bad habits, like scratchy lines designing shapes and line etc. I feel like this is a disservice of language, in that the word scribble can mean quite a few different things to different people. So when I say is it okay that I scribble, I can't find a clear answer because some take it to mean aimlessly putting down lines with no intention, others that I mean a loose sketch and anything in between.
Right on. I think we often have a bunch of advice about how to draw or what we 'should be doing' when it comes to every aspect of art. It's critical to figure out what works for you. Ultimately we are trying to use language that is built by people in a written verbal academic modality of thought. It's important to understand that this is a limited way of understanding the world, and that many things that are important are subverbal and subconscious (from my experience anyway!). As artists it's important to look at and understand the visual literacy that is possible sub-verbally. There are probably 100 types of 'drawing' or 'scribbling; or 'sketching' or 'putting drawing implement to a surface' that just will never have adequate verbal description. But by looking at different artists and how they draw... we can see the depth and sophistication at play. Bottom line... forget the words. Look at what artists do, feel what works for you, ugly lines are ok... bad sketches are ok, it's all a matter of how you get the idea from your head onto the page :)
I've been waiting for a video with these subjects as a focus, and its finally hapenning!!!! AND WE ARE GETTING A SERIES OF VIDEOS TOO?! Maaan, I'm so happy right now hahahahah Thank you, Tim! Yet another amazing video.
i have the loomis books, they are pretty but personally using that approach for figure drawing kept my drawings feeling stiff, Vilppu drawing manual, force by Michael Mattesi, Preston Blair cartoon animation, figure drawing and invention, the Weatherly guide to drawing animals or drawing stylized characters by 3d total, character Mentor by Tom Bancroft are all great books. I'm a bit bias here but I think Vilppu method is the best of the set, I still use it 20 years later. build from gesture, simply forms, spheres cylinders and boxes.
It was Buscema's art that brought me to the Conan universe. Hate to admit this, but I especially loved the way heads would launch like a rocket when Conan would behead someone. LOL... I know, I know... therapy. Anyway, like so many others, he easily ranks among my most influential and favorite artists.
I recall when I was a kid, there was a video that was a companion to How to Draw the Marvel Way.. and I remember Buscema actually doing the simple shape breakdowns like the tubes and such
The stick figures with cylinders is for beginners before going the scribble route. In Ryan Benjamin's Gumroad course drawing anatomy in one go would make your character look stiff so he shows you to scribble in an arm, keeps scribbling until the arm anatomy starts to take form. Even David Finch scribbles in tube forms instead of drawing tube forms the usual clear way.
What would you recommend if refinement and polish is what you're struggling with? I've had numerous teachers talk about and demonstrate gesture and scribble, but nothing on technique and clean looking work. I've never had issues with scribbling and gesture, but nearly all of my work dies at the refinement phase -- nor do I know how to implement any form of medium related technique. Furthermore, I can draw boxes and primitive forms just fine.
Do you have any recommendation for places to really learn how to scribble? I feel like its something I've never actually learned as an artist. My whole process is very rigid and strict, even in the earliest stages. It ended up this way because that's the only way I could figure out how to make a good drawing, but now I feel what I make is very stiff and lifeless. Also, I cannot 'scribble' at all and have fun just doodling. Its a very frustrating experience for me since I feel like I have no idea what I'm doing. Wasn't sure if you meant the books in this vid would be good examples of how to learn this stuff, but I'd appreciate any resource recommendations.
I love it. I've been more scribbly lately. I struggled for years trying to be perfect with each line. Now my characters are beginning to show movement. It's amazing. So excited......
Great Video, I started out sketchy like most artist but my 4 years in College Studying ID was helpful. my first year we had a combination. quick sketches using boxes to construct, using tools like Scott Robertson's book and even more technical perspective plotting for presentation drawings with elevation views being projected. after the first year I was just using a combination of Scott Robertson's method and loose sketching. Mike Matessi and Glenn Vilppu really helped me learn to loosen back up back in the early 2000's with force book and videos and Vilppu Drawing manual, and videos. for figure drawing its all about the gesture, finding that clear simple statement. I think in the end its great to be able to use both as you need them. in the words of Glen Vilppu "there are no rules only tools."
I have this book, it's very much a must for everyone who wants to learn constructing perspective and basing drawings on it. It's probably the best explanatory book when it comes to building grids.
You wanted to ever draw anything in different perspective and how to move the camera around, this book has you covered. Worth it.
This is kinda the exact video I've been looking for. At around 8:15 you describe being stuck between structure and scribbles, and that's kinda where I feel I am as a beginner. I like the more loose, gestural types of drawing, as it feels more fun, freeing, and less stressful, but it feels "wrong". I think part of it may be seeing other people's work and not knowing how they got there, and "speed paints" giving a different perspective on people's drawing processes.
I was watching a video by Michael Hampton where he mentioned how everyone nowadays seems so focused on drawing right the first time, and he guessed videos of people drawing and industrial design influencing modern character drawing as possible sources.
I am a primally digital artist and I did sink a lot of time into very precise structural drawings and anatomy to learn, and on digital where you can go back easily. So lately I've started most of my pictures and design work on paper, outside (when the weather permits), with just a pen, no erasing at all, just scribbling. It's helped me a lot!
Yet another great take Tim. Far too many creatives still have that fragmentation from sketchy looseness, where discoveries are made.
Thank you for the teachings. That was very helpful.
I've basically always used Buscema's sketching style as seen in the Marvel book even without knowing it. Then as I started learning more fundamentals, I started drifting away from that. However, I always came. back to his method because it allows me to do more imaginative design work.
I'd love if you could make a video about (digitally) drawing different materials like liquids (thick, thin, clear, etc), woods, stone, fabric, etc.
Thanks for this, Tim! Been struggling a bit with my sketching lately and sort of losing the joy of it, and this honestly really helped! Feeling inspired!
Tim, as always, I appreciate your videos so much. I've always had a sketchy style to my drawings and wished that I had a cooler hand like my industrial design peers. I love their clean look and always felt like mine lacked something because of the sketchiness. As I got older I just learned to appreciate my style a bit more (it was mine).
The scribble method/techniques help me learn proportion . Also the artistic license of fashion figure drawing
Yeah, I struggle with this. I actually love to scribble and think some of my scribble sketches are some of my best creations, tightening them up is where it usually goes wrong, but this is besides the point. For me, the struggle has been in validating this scribbly part of drawing, because it ventures close to what many have been taught to be bad habits, like scratchy lines designing shapes and line etc. I feel like this is a disservice of language, in that the word scribble can mean quite a few different things to different people. So when I say is it okay that I scribble, I can't find a clear answer because some take it to mean aimlessly putting down lines with no intention, others that I mean a loose sketch and anything in between.
Right on. I think we often have a bunch of advice about how to draw or what we 'should be doing' when it comes to every aspect of art. It's critical to figure out what works for you.
Ultimately we are trying to use language that is built by people in a written verbal academic modality of thought. It's important to understand that this is a limited way of understanding the world, and that many things that are important are subverbal and subconscious (from my experience anyway!). As artists it's important to look at and understand the visual literacy that is possible sub-verbally.
There are probably 100 types of 'drawing' or 'scribbling; or 'sketching' or 'putting drawing implement to a surface' that just will never have adequate verbal description. But by looking at different artists and how they draw... we can see the depth and sophistication at play.
Bottom line... forget the words. Look at what artists do, feel what works for you, ugly lines are ok... bad sketches are ok, it's all a matter of how you get the idea from your head onto the page :)
Great video! Extremely informative. Can’t wait for the next video and follow ups on this video!!!
loose on the structure. Yes. It's what I enjoy doing as well. Often, I scribble aimlessly with no idea until I see an image emerge.
Having a process has helped so much.. thank you..
I've been waiting for a video with these subjects as a focus, and its finally hapenning!!!! AND WE ARE GETTING A SERIES OF VIDEOS TOO?! Maaan, I'm so happy right now hahahahah
Thank you, Tim! Yet another amazing video.
i have the loomis books, they are pretty but personally using that approach for figure drawing kept my drawings feeling stiff, Vilppu drawing manual, force by Michael Mattesi, Preston Blair cartoon animation, figure drawing and invention, the Weatherly guide to drawing animals or drawing stylized characters by 3d total, character Mentor by Tom Bancroft are all great books. I'm a bit bias here but I think Vilppu method is the best of the set, I still use it 20 years later. build from gesture, simply forms, spheres cylinders and boxes.
It was Buscema's art that brought me to the Conan universe. Hate to admit this, but I especially loved the way heads would launch like a rocket when Conan would behead someone. LOL... I know, I know... therapy. Anyway, like so many others, he easily ranks among my most influential and favorite artists.
I recall when I was a kid, there was a video that was a companion to How to Draw the Marvel Way.. and I remember Buscema actually doing the simple shape breakdowns like the tubes and such
Oh man I wish I could find that online somewhere! I just tried but nothing came up. That would be cool to see.
The stick figures with cylinders is for beginners before going the scribble route. In Ryan Benjamin's Gumroad course drawing anatomy in one go would make your character look stiff so he shows you to scribble in an arm, keeps scribbling until the arm anatomy starts to take form. Even David Finch scribbles in tube forms instead of drawing tube forms the usual clear way.
What would you recommend if refinement and polish is what you're struggling with? I've had numerous teachers talk about and demonstrate gesture and scribble, but nothing on technique and clean looking work. I've never had issues with scribbling and gesture, but nearly all of my work dies at the refinement phase -- nor do I know how to implement any form of medium related technique. Furthermore, I can draw boxes and primitive forms just fine.
Do you have any recommendation for places to really learn how to scribble? I feel like its something I've never actually learned as an artist. My whole process is very rigid and strict, even in the earliest stages. It ended up this way because that's the only way I could figure out how to make a good drawing, but now I feel what I make is very stiff and lifeless. Also, I cannot 'scribble' at all and have fun just doodling. Its a very frustrating experience for me since I feel like I have no idea what I'm doing.
Wasn't sure if you meant the books in this vid would be good examples of how to learn this stuff, but I'd appreciate any resource recommendations.
Who had a influence on the other...Bucema or Frazetta ?
Can you make videos on hands and perspective please
cubes and cylinders
It's ok to be messy, specially if you are Lio Messi!
Tell pencil makers to make screw on eraser end(s).
Mestre Framed Perspective is a better version of the same content Robertson has. Easier to go through the dry stuff.