When i checked into the Marriott Grand Chateau in Vegas, the lady at the counter gave me a card and told me there was a free gift at the “desk over there” (she pointed to the sales counter across the lobby). I went there the next day as my flight was delayed and no one was at the desk when i checked in. The guy at the desk asked if i was alone and i told him I’m a single dude living it up in Vegas LOL. He sighed and asked about my vacation plans in a rather monotone voice and we talked for about ten minutes. Then, he gave me a gift card worth $25 that could be used at the food court in the Hilton lobby across the street. Wasn’t quite sure what happened until i dug into it a bit more - timeshares aren’t sold to single men. We’re not the demographic. I only found out even later that they’ll reluctantly pitch to single men over 40 that fit certain criteria and that the lady at the check in counter the night before was doubling as an OPC. I did wonder why she asked what i do for a living but i figured it was just small talk. I bought nachos with the $25 gift card and a beer 🙂 Thanks, Marriot!
Great video. We have certainly been to our share of timeshare sales presentations. Most of them are pretty low key but we have had the odd one where the sales person was pretty agressive. Thanks for sharing!
DO NOT attend these invites unless you are impervious to pressure. You’ll regret it and it’s not worth the free whatever they offer. Timeshares are always a bad deal. Always.
Just tell the timeshare salesman that you're unemployed right now. Then they will asked you, so how can you afford this vacation trip. Just tell them you put it on your credit card & going to file for bankruptcy next month.
Excellent walk-thru ( talk-thru) of the process! I’m new to this and expected to attend one in Oct of this year, your video helps me prepare. Thanks for taking the time to share your experience, greatly appreciated!👍🏼
Summed up your timeshare presentation experience that one time. I also am a member of MVC. When I bought it Marriott still owned the timeshare division. They were very laid back and not aggressive at all. I also attended another owner's update meeting in CA which also was fairly laid back. Then, somthing changed. I went to another owner's update in Orlando. The lady talking to us was very aggressive and at times demeaning. I was so irritated after the meeting I sent an email to Bill Marriott (whom I had met before) telling him he should make them state upfront that the timeshare division is no longer part of Marriott. The way I was treated in that meeting made me think twice about ever staying at another Marriott propery and that it was going to hurt his brand. I have never attended another one with them or anybody regardless of what they offer me to do so.
Can you please make a video and explain exactly how points work? I have watched many time share videos but nobody really explained how points work. Thank you.
What a great question! We have put this on our list of video ideas and we will definitely do a video answering this question! Just give us a month or two! Thanks for watching and commenting!
I’m on my 34th time share in last two years, almost every other week. I just say no thank you but I’ll think about it, and explain how my dad is in the hospital and when he gets out I’m going to buy. I just keep talking over there voice with total bs, they try to get away from me, and usually after two hours I’m sitting by the pool
My parents would attend these in the early 80s to get coupons for free meals at high end restaurants and thank you gifts like a red land line phone. I was stuck in a loud childcare area with bad crying kids. Wild times lol
Hey all, So I’m getting ready to sign up for 1 of these w my fiancee here in Florida at the Bonita springs Hyatt. What if you just tell them when walking in , “hi , so I’m here for the 4 day 3 night vaca for 299, nothing else. I can assure you I’m not buying anything as funds are not sufficient and all tied but I’ll be happy to listen , but between us both you’ll be wasting your time” Will they continue w the 2hr pitch Will they cancel your vaca ???? I don’t see someone wanting to waste 2hrs speaking knowing I just told them I don’t have $ , it’s all tied up and I just want a vaca… I’m only asking because I’m not sure if I can sit for 2hrs listening to someone sell me on something I dont want. I might actually buy from the closer though if they have some more good vaca packs
So, unfortunately that doesn't work! We tell them almost right away every time there is no chance of us buying and we still are in those meetings for 60 to 90 minutes! They have been doing these meetings for decades so they know all the tricks to turn people who think they won't buy! Just stay firm with your no's and don't cave! I agree with you though, you would think they wouldn't want to waste their time with you, but it doesn't stop them LOL.
Are you meaning like it cost you your time so nothing is free? We've made money just sitting there for 2 hours. Literally cost us nothing but our time.
So I got a call yesterday and they’re giving a deal for 3 international properties with 80% off rack rates, was pretty sure it was a scam call. Is it scam or do they give so deep discounts only to get a chance to pitch their meetings? Also, if after attending the sales pitch, I refuse to take the Vacation package, will they charge me for full rack rates and reverse the discount they gave?
So we have attended Marriott and Sheraton meetings and after we have said no to their sales pitch they do not reverse the charge of the stay. The price they gave us for staying at the resort is the price we paid.
I have 2 questions. First do y’all have a video explaining how much the initial loan is and what the rates are like. And do y’all in around the Charlotte, NC area? We’re in Mooresville.
We haven't made a video on it but with most timeshare you are looking at an initial investment around 20 - 30,000 dollars! And yes we are in the Charlotte area!
I went to a timeshare presentation for a $100 gift card. That's all I wanted, I wasn't planning to purchase a timeshare. Let me tell you these guys are pushy. Even after saying no after no to each "deal" they wanted to offer. By the end of it all I managed to leave and got my gift card. It was mentally draining and felt it wasn't even worth the trouble for a $100 gift card.
4 hours for a $100 gift card is $25 bucks an hour. I make $32/hr. Not only would I be giving my time away cheaper to a stranger than to my own company, I'd be doing it ON VACATION. I'm failing to see the upside
We did a timeshare one time and this guy would not let us leave! We finally got out of there! It was for a timeshare in Daytona, LOL! ~ Shion and Matthew
Do both husband and wife have to show up to the meeting? I’m thinking about having my husband watch the kid and I go alone. I believe I’m much better equipped to deal with a situation like that than he is lol
Did I just get ripped off being offered $799 for a 5n Kauai marriott vacation club stay when they used to offer it for free? Thanks for the heads up on what I'm in for!
#We visit two properties Hilson Head they put potential buyers in a motel/Hotel and allow you to visit and attend the meeting and that don't give the full affect of staying the night on thier property so we decided on westgate lakes in Florida they allow you to get the affect on being a owner the presentation was'nt bad at all !
Timeshare owners like us should know the routine 😂. Club Wyndham tried sell us more points in last presentation we went to in Lake Tahoe. Thanks for $150 gift card. I have few choices in Myrtle Beach to visit.
My time is worth *$32/hour* at my job, *$48/hour in OT.* I refuse to work all year long to give up 8 Hours of my *WELL DESERVED VACATION* at a market value of $32/HR which is *$256 BARE MINIMUM* for and high end *$384* for anybody or anything.
We didn't pay $400. For that trip we paid like $95 but they give you a couple hundred in visa gift cards so they pretty much paid us to come stay with them!
I've gone to about 20 presentations since 2006, and finally bought Hilton and Wyndham this year. If I need more points, I can figure that out on my own, and head back to the resale market.
That’s a legitimate question! On that trip we only had to pay $100 for the whole stay plus they give us a couple hundred in gift cards so for an hour of aggravation yes it’s worth it!
Oh we know what we are getting into...but a lot people don't know what they are getting into! And...there is different between presenting their information and just being rude.
These are all sales tactics. The timeshare industry has been around for almost 50 years, they have the sales techniques nailed down. The whole atmosphere, the way they greet you, the way the room is presented, the treats, the warm up, the connection, etc etc. It's all designed to get you to buy. Another sales tactic is to play loud music, the reason they do that is to make it more difficult to perform critical and analytical thinking. They want you to think with only your lizard brain. I'm sure you know they also usually work in tag teams, to wear you down, again all by design. The other tactic they use is have someone present themselves later on the presentation, usually a takeover aka closer, they are usually a senior person. This is to present a more authority figure to bait you in, generally they are only authorized to do drops. Drops are another tactic in which they start with a high initial price, this is called the anchor price, then they work around this initial price. The closer will also sometimes do probe response questions in order to counteract any other prospect objections. Usually timeshare offers are exploding offers, a point of sale, essentially, so they're only good for a short time, this is the urgency tactic. Last, they usually want the spouse to attend at the same time, the reason is, spousal objections are minimized (you can't say I have to check with my spouse), also the sales tactic is to work on the weaker of the two. When the weaker one caves, it turns into a 2 against 1 then. Usually the conversion is roughly 10%. The line rep gets 3-4% while the closer gets 4-5%. Looking forward to more videos. You guys seem like a nice couple.
Time share”you’re stupid if you don’t buy today.” This is the best deal you will ever get.
That's what they say at every meeting!
When i checked into the Marriott Grand Chateau in Vegas, the lady at the counter gave me a card and told me there was a free gift at the “desk over there” (she pointed to the sales counter across the lobby).
I went there the next day as my flight was delayed and no one was at the desk when i checked in. The guy at the desk asked if i was alone and i told him I’m a single dude living it up in Vegas LOL. He sighed and asked about my vacation plans in a rather monotone voice and we talked for about ten minutes. Then, he gave me a gift card worth $25 that could be used at the food court in the Hilton lobby across the street.
Wasn’t quite sure what happened until i dug into it a bit more - timeshares aren’t sold to single men. We’re not the demographic. I only found out even later that they’ll reluctantly pitch to single men over 40 that fit certain criteria and that the lady at the check in counter the night before was doubling as an OPC. I did wonder why she asked what i do for a living but i figured it was just small talk.
I bought nachos with the $25 gift card and a beer 🙂 Thanks, Marriot!
LOL!! Love the story and thanks for sharing! Hope the nachos were good!
Great video. We have certainly been to our share of timeshare sales presentations. Most of them are pretty low key but we have had the odd one where the sales person was pretty agressive. Thanks for sharing!
You are right! Most are pretty low key. And everyone we had before this guy has been low key but this guy was going to get a sale no matter what LOL!!
DO NOT attend these invites unless you are impervious to pressure. You’ll regret it and it’s not worth the free whatever they offer. Timeshares are always a bad deal. Always.
They will put a ton of pressure on you for sure!
no one can force you, say no and hold to it, then leave and enjoy your vacation
@@diomedes1544facts
Just eat their food and keep saying no regardless!
Great info! Thanks for sharing! Now I’m not so scared to try it myself!
It definitely can be intimidating but if you don't want to buy just keep saying no and they don't want to waste their time either!
Just tell the timeshare salesman that you're unemployed right now. Then they will asked you, so how can you afford this vacation trip. Just tell them you put it on your credit card & going to file for bankruptcy next month.
That's one way to end the meeting quick :)!
Fkn brilliant 😂
hahahahahahaha, Brilliant!!!
Is there a 10 days grace period after signing up?
Thanks you for sharing your experience, people like you, make our days...because we get paid, if you go, even if you dont buy nothing ...
Excellent walk-thru ( talk-thru) of the process! I’m new to this and expected to attend one in Oct of this year, your video helps me prepare. Thanks for taking the time to share your experience, greatly appreciated!👍🏼
If you have strong will power and can constantly say no for over an hour or two you can get a nice vacation for a cheap price! Glad we could help!
Summed up your timeshare presentation experience that one time. I also am a member of MVC. When I bought it Marriott still owned the timeshare division. They were very laid back and not aggressive at all. I also attended another owner's update meeting in CA which also was fairly laid back. Then, somthing changed. I went to another owner's update in Orlando. The lady talking to us was very aggressive and at times demeaning. I was so irritated after the meeting I sent an email to Bill Marriott (whom I had met before) telling him he should make them state upfront that the timeshare division is no longer part of Marriott. The way I was treated in that meeting made me think twice about ever staying at another Marriott propery and that it was going to hurt his brand. I have never attended another one with them or anybody regardless of what they offer me to do so.
Good choice not to do them again! And you are right, the tactics of MVC give the Marriott brand a bad name!
Can you please make a video and explain exactly how points work? I have watched many time share videos but nobody really explained how points work. Thank you.
What a great question! We have put this on our list of video ideas and we will definitely do a video answering this question! Just give us a month or two! Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@TravelingWithEmMe thank you
It's really pleasure to watching your wonderful videos. Thank you so much for sharing. Have a blessing day 😊
Thank you! We appreciate you watching our videos!
Thank you. Very informative and right to the point!!!
You are welcome! Glad we could help!
I’m on my 34th time share in last two years, almost every other week. I just say no thank you but I’ll think about it, and explain how my dad is in the hospital and when he gets out I’m going to buy. I just keep talking over there voice with total bs, they try to get away from me, and usually after two hours I’m sitting by the pool
I don’t know if I could do that many meetings 😂! Thanks for watching!
My parents would attend these in the early 80s to get coupons for free meals at high end restaurants and thank you gifts like a red land line phone. I was stuck in a loud childcare area with bad crying kids. Wild times lol
I bet as a kid that was awful!!!
Planning a capital vacations trip sometime in November and these kinds of things are a big help. Thanks y'all!
You are welcome! Glad we can help!
Hey all,
So I’m getting ready to sign up for 1 of these w my fiancee here in Florida at the Bonita springs Hyatt.
What if you just tell them when walking in ,
“hi , so I’m here for the 4 day 3 night vaca for 299, nothing else. I can assure you I’m not buying anything as funds are not sufficient and all tied but I’ll be happy to listen , but between us both you’ll be wasting your time”
Will they continue w the 2hr pitch
Will they cancel your vaca ????
I don’t see someone wanting to waste 2hrs speaking knowing I just told them I don’t have $ , it’s all tied up and I just want a vaca…
I’m only asking because I’m not sure if I can sit for 2hrs listening to someone sell me on something I dont want. I might actually buy from the closer though if they have some more good vaca packs
So, unfortunately that doesn't work! We tell them almost right away every time there is no chance of us buying and we still are in those meetings for 60 to 90 minutes! They have been doing these meetings for decades so they know all the tricks to turn people who think they won't buy! Just stay firm with your no's and don't cave! I agree with you though, you would think they wouldn't want to waste their time with you, but it doesn't stop them LOL.
Been to one years ago..and never again....There's nothing free in this scenario..well done guys!!!
Probably a smart move on your part LOL!!
Are you meaning like it cost you your time so nothing is free? We've made money just sitting there for 2 hours. Literally cost us nothing but our time.
Love the Marriott Myrtle beach. Always get our rooms by renting other people’s timeshares though.
That is smart of you to rent the timeshares! The Marriott resort in Myrtle Beach is super nice!
Good video. I've never been to a time share presentation. Thank you for sharing
Probably a good thing that you haven't LOL!!
So I got a call yesterday and they’re giving a deal for 3 international properties with 80% off rack rates, was pretty sure it was a scam call.
Is it scam or do they give so deep discounts only to get a chance to pitch their meetings? Also, if after attending the sales pitch, I refuse to take the Vacation package, will they charge me for full rack rates and reverse the discount they gave?
So we have attended Marriott and Sheraton meetings and after we have said no to their sales pitch they do not reverse the charge of the stay. The price they gave us for staying at the resort is the price we paid.
I have 2 questions. First do y’all have a video explaining how much the initial loan is and what the rates are like. And do y’all in around the Charlotte, NC area? We’re in Mooresville.
We haven't made a video on it but with most timeshare you are looking at an initial investment around 20 - 30,000 dollars! And yes we are in the Charlotte area!
I went to a timeshare presentation for a $100 gift card. That's all I wanted, I wasn't planning to purchase a timeshare. Let me tell you these guys are pushy. Even after saying no after no to each "deal" they wanted to offer. By the end of it all I managed to leave and got my gift card. It was mentally draining and felt it wasn't even worth the trouble for a $100 gift card.
The gift cards are tempting for sure but you are right! After dealing with how pushy they are it really isn't worth it!
Did you use your gift card? I always wondered if using the gift cards given was another trick.
No issues with the gift cards! Good question!
@@mzc9143 I used the gift card with no issues. 👍🏽
4 hours for a $100 gift card is $25 bucks an hour. I make $32/hr. Not only would I be giving my time away cheaper to a stranger than to my own company, I'd be doing it ON VACATION.
I'm failing to see the upside
A great video....its a pleasure to watch you both together
Thank you for your kind words!
How do they react when you tell them you are a travel agent? (I have my certification to be a travel agent and I am one at my career)
Good question! They probably would take it as a challenge and try even harder to get you to buy!
But do they give you the free trip if you don’t buy anything
None of the trips are free just pretty cheap! Usually a trip (plus a meeting) cost a few hundred bucks for a 3 night stay!
We did a timeshare one time and this guy would not let us leave! We finally got out of there! It was for a timeshare in Daytona, LOL! ~ Shion and Matthew
How was the place you stayed at?
@@TravelingWithEmMe We never stayed there, but it looked nice.
Do both husband and wife have to show up to the meeting? I’m thinking about having my husband watch the kid and I go alone. I believe I’m much better equipped to deal with a situation like that than he is lol
Great question! If it is just you two there yes! If you have your kids with you my answer would be just one of you but I'm not 100% positive!
Just say you're single, i know many require both spouses
Ive gone to about 4 and always say nope not interested and dont have the finances.
Same with us!
Did I just get ripped off being offered $799 for a 5n Kauai marriott vacation club stay when they used to offer it for free? Thanks for the heads up on what I'm in for!
If you were paying for that normally 5 nights would probably cost you a couple thousand dollars! Hopefully your meeting goes quick!
Definitely not ripped off. It would cost you retail 2500 or more plus air fare.
#We visit two properties Hilson Head they put potential buyers in a motel/Hotel and allow you to visit and attend the meeting and that don't give the full affect of staying the night on thier property so we decided on westgate lakes in Florida they allow you to get the affect on being a owner the presentation was'nt bad at all !
I've heard that Westgate is really nice! We have never stayed at a Westgate resort!
Timeshare owners like us should know the routine 😂. Club Wyndham tried sell us more points in last presentation we went to in Lake Tahoe. Thanks for $150 gift card. I have few choices in Myrtle Beach to visit.
$150 gift card is nice! Certainly helps to pay for food and gas on your vacation!
Good deal ? A mortgage? Maintenance fees for life ? People are giving them away online. Just to get that mortgage off their credit report.
They are definitely not for everyone! Thank you for watching and commenting!
My time is worth *$32/hour* at my job, *$48/hour in OT.* I refuse to work all year long to give up 8 Hours of my *WELL DESERVED VACATION* at a market value of $32/HR which is *$256 BARE MINIMUM* for and high end *$384* for anybody or anything.
Understandable! If the meetings were 8 hours we wouldn't do them either!
Do timeshares ever expire?
That is a good question! With some companies they do. I know with Disney the contract can run for 30 - 40 years.
free 4 hotel nights for 400 USD perhaps I am missing something
that is not free the 400 USD part ??
We didn't pay $400. For that trip we paid like $95 but they give you a couple hundred in visa gift cards so they pretty much paid us to come stay with them!
that sounds better @@TravelingWithEmMe
I've gone to about 20 presentations since 2006, and finally bought Hilton and Wyndham this year. If I need more points, I can figure that out on my own, and head back to the resale market.
Thank you for watching!
Did anyone go through the IHG presentation for 199 and actually get there cash back immediately after saying no
How was the IHG presentation?
Run run 🏃🏃♀️🏃♀️🏃♀️🏃♀️🏃♀️🏃♀️🏃♀️🏃♀️after your free meal 🥘🤔🤔😉😉
Thanks for watching!
Do not crack under pressure on timeshare scams
Do not crack!
PCDev uses the same intro music
Cool! I bet a lot of people use that song! Thanks for watching!
I am always tempted to go down to Cape Canaveral area and just sit and listen to their bullshit and get some free cruises or whatever……..
It is tempting but those meetings can be grueling LOL!
They son’s want to waste THEIR time, they don't care about yours.
They don't LOL!
Why do people do these things. Especially during valuable vacation time. Is free crap worth this aggravation?
That’s a legitimate question! On that trip we only had to pay $100 for the whole stay plus they give us a couple hundred in gift cards so for an hour of aggravation yes it’s worth it!
"Sweet deal" and "timeshare" don't go in the same sentence. Ever
LOL very true!
So help me understand, you go to a sales presentation for a “free gift” and expect not to get a sales presentation? Come on people….
Oh we know what we are getting into...but a lot people don't know what they are getting into! And...there is different between presenting their information and just being rude.
I wouldn’t buy a timeshare, if the money to pay for it fall from a tree.
I wish I had a tree like that in my backyard 😁
Pushy salespeople 🤦🏻♂️ I’ll pass 🤪
But we did get a free 3 day vacation on the beach :)!
@@TravelingWithEmMe Yes, exactly why we've gone! Just stay strong.
This is disgusting and total scam!
A lot of people would agree with you!
These are all sales tactics. The timeshare industry has been around for almost 50 years, they have the sales techniques nailed down. The whole atmosphere, the way they greet you, the way the room is presented, the treats, the warm up, the connection, etc etc. It's all designed to get you to buy. Another sales tactic is to play loud music, the reason they do that is to make it more difficult to perform critical and analytical thinking. They want you to think with only your lizard brain. I'm sure you know they also usually work in tag teams, to wear you down, again all by design. The other tactic they use is have someone present themselves later on the presentation, usually a takeover aka closer, they are usually a senior person. This is to present a more authority figure to bait you in, generally they are only authorized to do drops. Drops are another tactic in which they start with a high initial price, this is called the anchor price, then they work around this initial price. The closer will also sometimes do probe response questions in order to counteract any other prospect objections. Usually timeshare offers are exploding offers, a point of sale, essentially, so they're only good for a short time, this is the urgency tactic. Last, they usually want the spouse to attend at the same time, the reason is, spousal objections are minimized (you can't say I have to check with my spouse), also the sales tactic is to work on the weaker of the two. When the weaker one caves, it turns into a 2 against 1 then. Usually the conversion is roughly 10%. The line rep gets 3-4% while the closer gets 4-5%.
Looking forward to more videos. You guys seem like a nice couple.