From an old (64yo) skateboarder to a younger one. I am totally stoked 🤙. I feel like getting back on one of my old boards. That festool worked like a champ, keep it up guys it ll make you feel younger!!!
Ben, can you do a video on how to do a UA-cam video? it’s so exhausting listening to so many videos that just ramble onnnnnnn, to get to the actual content. A genuine, thank you for what I know must be a lot of preparation and time to give clear, concise instruction. And I do appreciate the humor you throw in there, so thanks for keeping it fun. Like everything else, you crack a joke, then move the hell on. if you could just make a video on every topic in the world, that would be really fantastic for all students!!! 😊
You can remove the guide from the track clean the track and guide with acetone then re glue it on a little bit further out and recut the guide with your wood blade. That way you don’t have to buy a new guide for $50. Per track- The key is to use real strong glue like Bosticks best.
Since you left the other channel its funny to see the skate content creep in over here... As a skater / engineer / DIYer love it! Currently trying to convince the wife to let me put a ramp in the front yard.
It’s a tool for business in your case not a hobby. Just price in the wear and tear appropriately as a part of your quote. Tools in the trade are intended to be used.
Love this video! Question though, are you worried about that 1/4" skin (mdf?) in contact with concrete? I'd be concerned it would wick up moisture over time and swell up
I would've used my dewalt cut off tool with the vacuum attachment and a straight piece of wood or metal as a guide. It wouldn't have been any easier though, just less painful lol.
Beautiful... I think "Festool" would approve when accuracy, dust control and durability are needed.... And if you wear out the bushing in one job they replace it... Or do they?
You could have enclosed the area with poly and controlled the dust that way, particulary if you've got an air scrubber. Red Green is right. Any tool can be the right tool. Using a $900 track saw and a $1000 hepa vac to cut concrete might be a bit of overkill, but it got the job done.
If it works, it works! Just blow out your tools to get rid of that harsh concrete dust. Why not use a thin metal sheet at the bottom? Wouldnt have to cut into the concrete that way?
it's a zero-clearance guide, that you can use to position the track very precisely. They come oversized, and then are cut to match the blade kerf exactly on the first cut. A wider blade kerf would remove a tiny bit of the 0-clearance guide, making it no longer accurate for the original blades that have a slightly smaller kerf.
Festool does make two different diamond cutters that run on the track for concrete, they're just not available in the US or Canada. Festool also makes diamond blades specifically for the track saws for cutting cement board, so I think it's totally fine to do this.
😱😳 Bennn! Ahhh! I probably woulda just used old skilsaw and wet the blade tiny bit while cutting or used just reg skilsaw with dustport. No way using a good track saw, but I know you got that one for free and dont seem to have much use for it 😆💕👍
I have a 125mm bosch grinder that fits their GDE 125 EA-T dust shroud. You can adjust the cutting depth and straight side will reference along a straight edge for accurate cuts. I think the challenge would be creating a fixed straight edge to act as the guide wheras the festook track solves that. I think your solution was a good one. The reduced diameter of that diamond blade should somewhat offset the toughness of the material being cut with regards to torque needed, so in that regards it might not be too hard on the motor.
I got a soapstone guy who even uses his with water! Sprays it in the path of the cut as he goes. He’s been doing it for years,says he goes through a track saw about every two years
Whenever I cut quartz I just hit up home depot tool rental and throw my concrete blade on it. It's like 25 bucks for 4 hours then I just return it. Beats buying a new one if you're just doing that kind of work here or there
You just wanna show off your Festool.. Next we will see a title like "Should I use my Festool Domino to add a deck to my quarter pipe?" 🤣🤣 LOL. "The taper cant fix it" that made me bust a gut.
Crazy? Nah, I picked up a diamond saw blade from Home Depot and cut a ton of retaining blocks to shape them with my old cheapie B&D circular saw. I was expecting the saw to die but it chugged right through it. Got a tad warm at times though :D
Great cut, Nice to see your not so precious. Well of course not, Your a Canadian for crying out loud! But what was that drill bit you were using? Nice 1/4 pipe grinds, ya still got it!
you could do this even with a old circ saw and another person spraying the blade constantly with a spray bottle. its a messy slurry but it would work. probably the cheapest way to do it dust free.
@@markh.6687Nah, we could all learn a thing or two from the Japanese when it comes to construction. Messiness is avoidable, and it's usually worth it.
havent skated since i was 19 and i remember using the crappy tools that were just laying around to build everything. if i still skated today i wonder what i could build with much better tools and all the knowledge that is out there now vs some know it all teenaged friends or a book you bought for $10 from the skate shop
since you like to do things the hard way I'm surprised you didn't just attach the ramp and then fill the place up with another quarter inch of concrete. hope you sealed the wood underneath or the cutout to block the moisture that will eventually come up from the cement.
Sure use the festool if they don't want any dust, make sure your bid is higher than the other guy by the exact cost of the saw coincidentally LMAO, festool is nice but after seeing a teardown and they are full of plastic parts inside at that cost no thanks.
Have to admit I cringed when I saw the thumbnail. Who'd ever do that with a Festool track saw... Honestly tho, given your needs it probably was the best tool. Can't say I'd let you do it with mine tho... 🙂
My brother and I used to use 3/32" sheet steel at the bottom of our quarter pipes back in the day to remedy that same transition. It worked pretty good. I miss that man, thanks for the great flood of memories...
I am 30 years old never got into skating or really tried it to often however now that I am older I wanna try it again and learn. Kind of looks like fun.
It's doable. I do find tho that u get the best at it from about 7 years old to 16. The shorter you are the closer you are to the ground when you fall lol. I'm 28 and used to skate every day and even imagining what I could do back then and trying it now makes me nervous lol
This guy is awesome! Can't recommend him enough to my buddies haha and he's got the skateboard skills nice! Would love to see a skateboard video in the future!
Yikes. Ya, you're crazy. I'm not a Festool fanboi (I'm too poor to join that club), but if I could, I sure as Hell wouldn't have used it to cut concrete. I hope they are a sponsor of your channel! I'll add my two cents here. I've run into the dust problem myself and searched for a solution. In my case, I also wanted a clean horizontal cut in plaster on rocklath (3/8" OG drywall that was a transitional material from wood lath to modern drywall, used, at least in Ontario, from the around the 1940's to early 1970's). I needed to preserve the original hand-made plaster crown moldings during a bathroom renovation, and I wanted a nice, clean, horizontal cut 4" below the molding to butt up the 1/2" drywall I was finishing the wall with. I discovered that Milwaulkee makes a 3" cordless cut off tool that has an integrated dust shroud and a vacuum attachment. They also sell diamond blades that will cut concrete (and plaster). I hooked up my Ridgid shop vac to it, and used both a collection bag and a HEPA filter in the vacuum. In the room, I also used a Corsi-Rosenthal filtration box that I'd build, but it wasn't really needed. It did the job, and it created very little dust, but I was disappointed with how underpowered the Milwaulkee tool was. It's a 12V tool, which just doesn't have enough guts to do the job. I know, not a great alternative to the Festool, right? However, I've since discovered that Dewalt has an almost identical tool in an 18V. Had I known this, I would have bought it instead. I haven't used the Dewalt, but I know from experience that an 18V tool is going to outperform a 12V tool by a wide margin. I'm not married to either of those battery platforms, so from a tool purchase standpoint, the cost was a moot since the prices of the kits (tool, battery, charger) were almost identical. Dewalt also makes a fancy hose and positive locking connection system for their newer tools. Not cheap, but it works better than janky DIY plumbing adapters with gear clamps that cut your hands. Ask me how I know about that "solution"... To get the kerf cut straight on that concrete floor, you could have used a piece of MDF or other stock as your cut guide; taping, hot gluing or otherwise affixing it to the floor. You only really needed the leading edge straight so your hardboard would fit smoothly, and you could have just eyeballed the back edge. Cheers.
There is a tool in existance which is a bit more dedicated, it's the Festool DSC-AG 125-Plus-FS. But I'd say you took a good option here. I tend to clean out my (fes)tools after working with highly abrasive dust like in your case here, but I actually never could confirm the necessity after cleaning them out.
Hm won't claim that this is a better or faster solution, but not having a track saw or a dust extractor I probably would've ended up tenting the area and using a shopvac, which sounds like an enormous pain.
I originally came here to clutch my pearls and say "Daddy Ben, Noooo!!" But I have to admit, aside from the track needing new plastic, that was way more ideal than any concrete cutting I've ever done.
@@vancouvercarpenter I'll take your word for it! Anything else seems preferable to chipping up concrete. That solution would have never entered my brain.
Ben, you dont need a new splinter guard, you can just peel it off and move it out slightly! You can do this 2-3 before you need to replace it.
Excellent tip, thank you!!!
Thank you!!
Totally. I just did that on mine yesterday, to get a more accurate cut.
that’s what i thought. and i also thought why don’t sharpening the edge of the thin mdf hdf or whatever layer to avoid cutting concrete??
From an old (64yo) skateboarder to a younger one. I am totally stoked 🤙. I feel like getting back on one of my old boards. That festool worked like a champ, keep it up guys it ll make you feel younger!!!
I don’t have problem bending over, it’s standing up straight afterwards.
OK DUDE, I had to double take seeing you FS Smith off the top! Big props to the attention to detail making this transition butter smooth!
Definitely the best application for a Festool investment.
My back hurts just watching this....
could have knelt on the skateboard and had someone slowly push for the cuts, would have looked rad for the video as well!
Holy crap! My two worlds are colliding!
Not only do you get to work there but you also get to skate with a legend! I’m so jealous!
Ben, can you do a video on how to do a UA-cam video? it’s so exhausting listening to so many videos that just ramble onnnnnnn, to get to the actual content.
A genuine, thank you for what I know must be a lot of preparation and time to give clear, concise instruction. And I do appreciate the humor you throw in there, so thanks for keeping it fun. Like everything else, you crack a joke, then move the hell on. if you could just make a video on every topic in the world, that would be really fantastic for all students!!! 😊
My advice for UA-cam videos. Don’t put anything you wouldn’t watch in your videos. Simple as that.
You can remove the guide from the track clean the track and guide with acetone then re glue it on a little bit further out and recut the guide with your wood blade. That way you don’t have to buy a new guide for $50. Per track- The key is to use real strong glue like Bosticks best.
I guess as long as it doesn't get bound up with concrete dust it's fine. Nicely done.
perfectionism to another level.
Since you left the other channel its funny to see the skate content creep in over here... As a skater / engineer / DIYer love it! Currently trying to convince the wife to let me put a ramp in the front yard.
Hahaha. Front yard ramp is a big ask.
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It’s a tool for business in your case not a hobby. Just price in the wear and tear appropriately as a part of your quote. Tools in the trade are intended to be used.
You can always get the job done with what you have and ingenuity
Love this video! Question though, are you worried about that 1/4" skin (mdf?) in contact with concrete? I'd be concerned it would wick up moisture over time and swell up
It’s skate lite. Completely water proof. Look it up.
@@vancouvercarpenter Oh nice hadn't heard of it, looks like an awesome material. Thanks for the response!
Just slap some Durabond down on that edge and make sure you feather that edge!
I would've used my dewalt cut off tool with the vacuum attachment and a straight piece of wood or metal as a guide. It wouldn't have been any easier though, just less painful lol.
I wish i could skateboard 😢. I have two left feet cant even walk properly sometimes 😂
Good surprise for me! Let's skate!!! Congratulations!!
You should use a ryobi for this
I watched some tiling guys using a dewalt tracksaw to cut their cement backer boards and even large format tiles!
Love this! Super tech, super resourceful
Beautiful... I think "Festool" would approve when accuracy, dust control and durability are needed.... And if you wear out the bushing in one job they replace it... Or do they?
Me outwards: Hey whatever gets the job done!
Me inside: AHHHHHHHHHHHHHGHGJGJKFKDLD 😂
This is actually sick mad respect 🤙🏼
Knew you wouldn’t leave us with no skate clips, thank you
You could have enclosed the area with poly and controlled the dust that way, particulary if you've got an air scrubber. Red Green is right. Any tool can be the right tool. Using a $900 track saw and a $1000 hepa vac to cut concrete might be a bit of overkill, but it got the job done.
If it works, it works!
Just blow out your tools to get rid of that harsh concrete dust.
Why not use a thin metal sheet at the bottom? Wouldnt have to cut into the concrete that way?
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love your videos but please for the love of god get a better camera I'm dying over here trying to see your work
It’s not the camera. It’s the lighting.
They don't name anything useful after Florida or Texas 😂
Blade kerf shouldn't have any affect on the guide
It will if the cutting tips are wider than the blades disc. My guess is that was the case here.
it's a zero-clearance guide, that you can use to position the track very precisely. They come oversized, and then are cut to match the blade kerf exactly on the first cut. A wider blade kerf would remove a tiny bit of the 0-clearance guide, making it no longer accurate for the original blades that have a slightly smaller kerf.
The different kerf should have an effect, and the splinter guard is affected.
@@maxwellgriffith not it you use a dado shim. What a waste.
@@larry527az3 time to level up his shim game
Festool does make two different diamond cutters that run on the track for concrete, they're just not available in the US or Canada. Festool also makes diamond blades specifically for the track saws for cutting cement board, so I think it's totally fine to do this.
What I have watched about 20 or 30 maybe more of your videos I didn't know you could skateboard.
0:58 you weren't one of those drywallers, were you? :D
Usually they just use metal for concrete to ramp transition. That's a good idea though. Let's go big BEN!👏👏👏👏👏
😱😳 Bennn! Ahhh! I probably woulda just used old skilsaw and wet the blade tiny bit while cutting or used just reg skilsaw with dustport. No way using a good track saw, but I know you got that one for free and dont seem to have much use for it 😆💕👍
Neither of those methods would have been adequate for the space. No water, no dust.
wow this man does it all
A red dragon vaccuum? 😂😂😂 Love it, skate on
Hey you skate pretty good too!
I think you tackled that the best way possible💪🏽 great stuff!
I have a 125mm bosch grinder that fits their GDE 125 EA-T dust shroud. You can adjust the cutting depth and straight side will reference along a straight edge for accurate cuts. I think the challenge would be creating a fixed straight edge to act as the guide wheras the festook track solves that. I think your solution was a good one. The reduced diameter of that diamond blade should somewhat offset the toughness of the material being cut with regards to torque needed, so in that regards it might not be too hard on the motor.
dust in tracksaws is fiiiiiiiine. you can use 'em for stone & quartz countertops too.
I’d like to know what exactly should i look for in a blade if I want to use my makita plunge saw on quartz countertop
I got a soapstone guy who even uses his with water! Sprays it in the path of the cut as he goes.
He’s been doing it for years,says he goes through a track saw about every two years
Whenever I cut quartz I just hit up home depot tool rental and throw my concrete blade on it. It's like 25 bucks for 4 hours then I just return it. Beats buying a new one if you're just doing that kind of work here or there
You just wanna show off your Festool.. Next we will see a title like "Should I use my Festool Domino to add a deck to my quarter pipe?" 🤣🤣
LOL. "The taper cant fix it" that made me bust a gut.
Ok, WHAT? We're cutting concrete with the track saw and also landing bangers???
Crazy? Nah, I picked up a diamond saw blade from Home Depot and cut a ton of retaining blocks to shape them with my old cheapie B&D circular saw. I was expecting the saw to die but it chugged right through it. Got a tad warm at times though :D
I'd have used my lazor beams to cut out the concrete. That way I could have yelled out "Imma chargin' my lazors!" before doing the job. :)
Great cut, Nice to see your not so precious. Well of course not, Your a Canadian for crying out loud! But what was that drill bit you were using? Nice 1/4 pipe grinds, ya still got it!
Beware that using an abrasive cut-off blade in a miter box saw doesn't go as well. All the burning sparks kind of screw up everything they hit.
you could do this even with a old circ saw and another person spraying the blade constantly with a spray bottle. its a messy slurry but it would work. probably the cheapest way to do it dust free.
Too messy. This worked great.
@@vancouvercarpenter Construction is SUPPOSED to be messy at certain points. If it isn't, you're doing it wrong. :)
@@markh.6687Nah, we could all learn a thing or two from the Japanese when it comes to construction. Messiness is avoidable, and it's usually worth it.
That doesn't work worth a shit. Trust me, I've tried it. And yeah, it creates a friggin' mess.
havent skated since i was 19 and i remember using the crappy tools that were just laying around to build everything. if i still skated today i wonder what i could build with much better tools and all the knowledge that is out there now vs some know it all teenaged friends or a book you bought for $10 from the skate shop
since you like to do things the hard way I'm surprised you didn't just attach the ramp and then fill the place up with another quarter inch of concrete. hope you sealed the wood underneath or the cutout to block the moisture that will eventually come up from the cement.
Sure use the festool if they don't want any dust, make sure your bid is higher than the other guy by the exact cost of the saw coincidentally LMAO, festool is nice but after seeing a teardown and they are full of plastic parts inside at that cost no thanks.
Did you consider bedding the masonite edge to the concrete with some PL adhesive? Just to ensure it doesn't lift.
You did all that just for a smooth transition? Why not just plane down the bottom edge of the plywood?
Don't think you needed to cut that much of the concrete out; maybe only needed a couple centimeters or maybe three.
Have to admit I cringed when I saw the thumbnail. Who'd ever do that with a Festool track saw... Honestly tho, given your needs it probably was the best tool. Can't say I'd let you do it with mine tho... 🙂
yes you're crazy.. so am I, I did nearly the same thing with mine! lol
Here in the Uk we have used a Metabo MFE 40 Wall Chaser to do this kind of work
Good job homie, good to see you skate bra
You're crazy for having a festool 😂😂😂
Hilti has a Cut Off Saw specially for concrete.
Thin sheet metal transition.
No cutting necessary.
Me and my buddys solved this issue years ago, we got bicycles!
My brother and I used to use 3/32" sheet steel at the bottom of our quarter pipes back in the day to remedy that same transition. It worked pretty good. I miss that man, thanks for the great flood of memories...
We did this so we don’t have to use the sheet metal. No more clang clang!
I think he just made this video to show off his skills on a skateboard lol
We use Festtool at work. Their tool vac system is great.
I bet a lot of you don't know Ben is a super good skater.
Are you a skate vlogger? I swear I’ve seen you before.
Vancouver CARPENTER
Why wouldn't you just use sheet metal at the bottom?
Well now you’re a mason too, what can’t you do??
I did this year's ago, smoked my saw
Were the drywallers you?😂
Pretty good my man.
Oh snap he shreds too!
do a kick flip
I spy RDS
No one saw it coming, but looking back on it, maybe using the Festool to cut concrete was a cry for help….
😂
Perfect as always 👍🏼
Do a blunt off the festool 😂 👌🏻
Congratulations!
I am 30 years old never got into skating or really tried it to often however now that I am older I wanna try it again and learn. Kind of looks like fun.
It's doable. I do find tho that u get the best at it from about 7 years old to 16. The shorter you are the closer you are to the ground when you fall lol. I'm 28 and used to skate every day and even imagining what I could do back then and trying it now makes me nervous lol
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This guy is awesome! Can't recommend him enough to my buddies haha and he's got the skateboard skills nice! Would love to see a skateboard video in the future!
Yikes.
Ya, you're crazy. I'm not a Festool fanboi (I'm too poor to join that club), but if I could, I sure as Hell wouldn't have used it to cut concrete. I hope they are a sponsor of your channel!
I'll add my two cents here. I've run into the dust problem myself and searched for a solution. In my case, I also wanted a clean horizontal cut in plaster on rocklath (3/8" OG drywall that was a transitional material from wood lath to modern drywall, used, at least in Ontario, from the around the 1940's to early 1970's). I needed to preserve the original hand-made plaster crown moldings during a bathroom renovation, and I wanted a nice, clean, horizontal cut 4" below the molding to butt up the 1/2" drywall I was finishing the wall with.
I discovered that Milwaulkee makes a 3" cordless cut off tool that has an integrated dust shroud and a vacuum attachment. They also sell diamond blades that will cut concrete (and plaster). I hooked up my Ridgid shop vac to it, and used both a collection bag and a HEPA filter in the vacuum. In the room, I also used a Corsi-Rosenthal filtration box that I'd build, but it wasn't really needed.
It did the job, and it created very little dust, but I was disappointed with how underpowered the Milwaulkee tool was. It's a 12V tool, which just doesn't have enough guts to do the job. I know, not a great alternative to the Festool, right?
However, I've since discovered that Dewalt has an almost identical tool in an 18V. Had I known this, I would have bought it instead. I haven't used the Dewalt, but I know from experience that an 18V tool is going to outperform a 12V tool by a wide margin. I'm not married to either of those battery platforms, so from a tool purchase standpoint, the cost was a moot since the prices of the kits (tool, battery, charger) were almost identical.
Dewalt also makes a fancy hose and positive locking connection system for their newer tools. Not cheap, but it works better than janky DIY plumbing adapters with gear clamps that cut your hands. Ask me how I know about that "solution"...
To get the kerf cut straight on that concrete floor, you could have used a piece of MDF or other stock as your cut guide; taping, hot gluing or otherwise affixing it to the floor. You only really needed the leading edge straight so your hardboard would fit smoothly, and you could have just eyeballed the back edge.
Cheers.
I probably would've just done it wet. I keep a diamond blade (can be used wet or dry) in an old corded saw for this.
GFCI....optional.
There is a tool in existance which is a bit more dedicated, it's the Festool DSC-AG 125-Plus-FS. But I'd say you took a good option here. I tend to clean out my (fes)tools after working with highly abrasive dust like in your case here, but I actually never could confirm the necessity after cleaning them out.
That worked well, and actually was a pretty smart idea. Not sure I'd have thought to do it this way. Good thinking Can*AE*dians.
Hm won't claim that this is a better or faster solution, but not having a track saw or a dust extractor I probably would've ended up tenting the area and using a shopvac, which sounds like an enormous pain.
Got a rubi tracksaw basically a grinder in circular saw form
I originally came here to clutch my pearls and say "Daddy Ben, Noooo!!" But I have to admit, aside from the track needing new plastic, that was way more ideal than any concrete cutting I've ever done.
The makita 4100KB has a track saw adapter and I think it would have given you the same results. I like it for cutting countertops in finishes homes
Would there be any value to laying a bead of some sort of caulk or concrete sealer glop along the joint between the concrete and the curved board?
I’ve done concrete grinding with a Milwaukee circular saw, and dewalt 4” grinder - both attached with the festool for extraction. Works great!
there is the 3" dewalt cut-off tool now.. very good dust collection.
That's it, I'm getting back on my board
I would have beveled the underside of the masonite
Chips too easy and does not give the desired result
@@vancouvercarpenter I'll take your word for it! Anything else seems preferable to chipping up concrete. That solution would have never entered my brain.
Sick that’s my dream project as a skater
10/10 and better skateboard moves than me!
what type of fasteners did you use to secure that wood