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- Опубліковано 18 тра 2022
- So here's why I sold my Toro 22" 60v Personal Pace Battery mower. First let me say that the mower has more pros going forth and cons, but the cons caught up to me. I feel that the suction on the mower is not very good I also feel that the mulching blade that comes with it is absolute garbage. The mower tends to leave around clumps of grass whether you are bagging or recycling. This just means you have to run back and forth across the grass to clean up everything that's left there.
Now this isn't a problem for you, you're going to love the mower. I feel this fits really well into the routine mowing category, a person who isn't really looking to have epically perfect grass, or perhaps somebody who just needs a well built electric mower without a ton of plastic parts. The battery life is just fine for mowing an average sized lawn, the recharge time is not very long on the battery, and overall it is a good machine for a person who is mowing the lawn periodically.
I ran my toro mower for three full seasons, so I would say that I've got enough experience under my belt to know how it will be for the average person. The prices have come up so much in the last couple of years and I only expect them to go further in the future. We have entered into a time where gas mowers will become obsolete within the next 5 to 10 years in the residential marketplace. My hope, is that more manufacturers will see videos like mine and make improvements to the mowers for ultimate consumer satisfaction and performance. I still have interest in seeing the milwaukee mower in action, maybe i can convince a friend to but one.
I also go over my experiences so far with my Robomower automower and I will keep everyone up-to-date as the year goes on and see if I still like it as much then as i do now.
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I've had the same experience with the 60v. It's great for someone that just wants to get the job done. I want more than that so it leaves a bit to be desired.
seems to be consistent
My neighbor bought one a few weeks ago, he took it back after 2 mows..
@@UrbanDadLife2024 honestly, that's not shocking
The Milwaulkee is an outstanding battery mower. best mower ever used. The only neg but small is the mulch plug sucks but I'm a bagger anyway. Gives a beautiful low cut.
And you have to take a loan out to buy one lol.
Thanks for taking the time to make this. I’m out here researching the next purchase 👏
Awesome looking forward to the comments and questions, thank you for the help last year you personally gave me !
Thank you for honest review of this mower. I got my Toro 60 volt flex in 2021 at Home depot . I also got the string trimmer ,blower and hedge trimmer . The mower came with the 6Amp battery but it would give out before I finished the yard. I purchased 7.5 and that dude was expensive ,almost as much as the mower. I agree about the bagging ,it is not so good, the gasoline mower does a much better job. I had a recycler before I moved to the coast . I was moving into a condo on the beach so I didn't any lawn care equipment. I left all my equipment in my home town and gave it to a dear friend. We sold the condo and bought a house with a yard and a driveway and scrubs. So I needed to get stuff to keep my yard up. So we decided on battery. The Toro is a Toro ,they made lawn equipment ,they don't make power tools , or chain saws or bulldozers! I have been mowing grass for way over 50 years . I have to say that machine is amazing . it cuts a nice yard .It seems to have good power and torque. The battery life is good. The other day I mowed my neighbors yard. I cut for over an hour and still had battery. Now the grass was not heavy or wet and I didn't stand around ,I mowed. Everybody is jumping on the battery band wagon ,quick frankly ,some of these companies need to stick to power tools and the like. By the way when I mowed my neighbors yard ,my Apple watch told I had walked 2.25 miles!
That’s great feedback right there!
Thanks for the honest Toro review. My Mother-in-Law had the same mower in the gas version and it was no better. The motor spewed oil out the valve cover and the motor crapped out on her after 8 uses. She now owns a Honda. By the way, I fought Toro & Briggs for 4 months to get it warrantied. Neither of them would do anything until I submitted a review to the BBB.
That’s crazy
I bought best of both worlds Toro super recycler with the Honda motor, batteries are overated
I had a time master for my landscaping business and Hondas. Both were terrible at mulching even after upgrading blades. Bought a commercial Masport and love that mower.
Home depot stopped carrying Ego. They're sold at Lowe's now.
Can't wait to see an update on this in another month. Hope it keeps beating your expectations. Personally, I'm not a fan of battery rotory mowers, but am intrigued by the robot mowers.
We will see. No complaints so far. I have a feeling I will end up moving the guide closer to the edges
Good video - thanks for the content.
How does the Toro BATTERY itself stack-up against other battery packs?
Charge time?
Dows it maintain its functional “ceiling” of 60mins?
Can you leave it plugged into the charger without damaging the battery-life?
Etc?
Thanks again
I bought the Makita XGT 40v max lawn equipment. The Makita XGT 480mm lawn mower is fantastic. Cuts long 2 foot grass without lifting deck or stalling. In Australia we get the 4x swing back blades as standard. So you get finer cuts and good lift (winged tips). Does a good job mulching and bagging particularly. Has rear side discharge, not side discharge. Can take two 8ah batteries but only needs 1 and auto switches with 2. Only negative but other mowers do the same thing. Is it will wait a few minutes (fading power) till the battery is dead before switching and not switch on power demand. manually switching the batteries will get around it.
When you got a second Toro I decided to get a Toro. The Ego dual blade is better. My Toro does not suck like I wished it did. The new Toro deck looks like an improvement. Thanks for the update.
switching the blade made a huge difference.
I’m super intrigued by the robo mower concept and appreciate your straightforward take on it. Curious if you think they’re ready for prime time or if it’s worth waiting a few years to drop that cash. For real though, if you ever sell it, putting my hat in that ring. I wanna be George Costanza driving Jon Voight’s car.
I bought one last year from Home Depot to replace my 40V Ryobi. I've been so disappointed in the mulching performance that I went to bagging the clippings every mow. I'd heard such good things about Toro.
I have the 22 inch rear drive Toro Recyler 60V. Have had it 3 years now. I cut 5 lawns a week. I have 3 batterys the 6.0 ah the mower came with and I bought an extra 7.5 ah and also bought the snow blower which came with a 7.5 ah. It takes two passes to get a nice cut. I cannot complain because 5 lawns per week for 3 seasons is like 15 years of normal use! I want a super recycler next but this one just keeps going and I cannot justify the 800 bucks but if by chance there is a season end deal I will be sure to get the super recycler as the normal only draw back is not fully filling the bag and leaving the trails of grass hence I do a double cross cut two passes.
It’s all about the lawn journey brother !👏👏…look forward to goin on it with you John!…I just put down 750 for Honda HRX 217…Jenny not let me have my Timemaster🤦🏻💰...
…Save the marriage!👏👏🤣☮️
please list where we can buy the better mulching blade as mine works fine, yes the suction stinks, but that’s why I have the beast battery - 7.5 amp and the leaf blower (157 mph!) but i’d like better mulching!
Funny the same problems you had are the same I have with my gas one. It struggles on my couch lawn and struggles to bag especially if it's a bit longer
I had the same with my Toro lawn mower in N.Z. I has 4,400m2 but the lawn never looked good, it left clumps of cut grass every were. It had some good points , but lawn appearance is tops.
Funny, I did the opposite. I went from the Husqvarna Auto mower to the Toro 60V. I loved the auto mower, but my neighbor had their lawn aerated and busted up my wire. My neighbor is my sister and I just had to sell it just to keep the peace. The Toro 60V mower was my next purchase and I am heading into my third season with it.
That’s awesome. I definitely liked it better after I switched out the blade.
I have a Husqvarna 430X . This is my 4th year. I think this is the best gadget I have bought. Loving it. My riding lawnmower( John Deer) is just gathering dust.
Do you still use your riding mower for the first mow of the year ?
I have a sidewalk and parkway in front of my house. How does the remote mower go over the sidewalk to mow the parkway?
Your experience pretty much matched mine with my EGO battery mower. Kind of lacking for me but fine for people who just want to get the grass cut.
I really don’t want to shut on the mower because I absolutely enjoyed using it. That’s why I had two. I don’t know if the other one will move back up here or not, but I’d probably sell it as well if the automower keeps doing what it’s doing
EGO went to Lowe's in 2021. Home Depot started to promote Ryobi a lot. 2022, it's changed for Home Depot but Lowe's is still pushing EGO as the primary lawn brand. Definitely don't appreciate the battery now being able to retain the charge. 2 years with EGO, I noticed the battery gauge drops sooner.
That’s interesting. I really didn’t have a clue about it. The battery life is a bit concerning as well
@@Lawncology agreed. May 2020 with a new battery, 3500 square feet of lawn would barely take a notch off the gauge. 2021, same lawn, always a down one notch after a mow. 2022, always down two notches.
That's the case will all batteries. They only have so many charge cycles and then they wear out. High or low ambient temperatures will also reduce battery life.
I’m pretty certain that if more widely available from more manufacturers, cordless reel mowers would be much more suited to matching their performance goals with those of their gasoline powered counterparts than mowers of rotary design will. At the present moment only a few from very high end manufacturers are available but if mainstreamed I think that eventually the reel design will also make its way into robotic mower designs as well.
As we’ve had a heavy snow year in Utah (compared with the past four to five seasons) I bought a Toro 60V snow blower. Form, function, ease of use and power are amazing. I love not waking the dead with 2 cycle engine noise and not breathing fumes, having my clothes smell like fuel. I’ve used it four times as of mid February. That comes to a around $225 per use. I only hope the battery lasts a few years to get some value. I’ve wanted the 60V mower so I could use the battery vs sitting on the charger for months. My gas mower is the Toro Timesaver which is going on ten years old and is like brand new. No battery (which will cost around $350 to replace) will ever last ten years. I’m pretty mixed on the idea of everything going battery operated.
Battery prices are out of hand. It’s will hinder the long term viability and yes on all counts on the positive side. Noise is a big seller. I switched to my automower and won’t look back. As of this post, a standard battery rotary mower is 50% cost of an automower. It’s getting closer and closer all the time
My Greenworks 80v is fantastic. Came with two batteries and using Turbo mode creates good mulching and suction for bagging. Good price from Costco too.
That’s awesome
the GreenWorks 80v Pro is also the battery system I have, and actually just a week ago ordered the same mower again ....I started with just the mower at least 5 years ago now, and a single 4ah battery(so 320wh) but added string trimmer(with edger attachment, and battery holster), backpack leafblower, and now even a small snowblower(which came with the small 2ah battery, so just 160wh) and I'd still like to get a hedge trimmer(cheap for 'tool only') to replace my old corded one ....I know the GreenWorks stuff is older and now ageing in design; but it came down to if I was going to replace the whole battery system and go to a newer tool line, or just get another of the same mower with some fresh batteries(I was really hard on the original mower and battery, but the other tools are in perfect shape) so for just $500 I got a new one with a 5ah battery(so now 400wh) and can just keep running everything to see what my other choices could be in another 5years from now
works perfect for what I need
@@BenjaminT.Minkler once you’re in the companies battery system, it’s best to stay there for sure
I can see if you have a good-sized lawn, you might find it frustrating to either buy another battery to get the job done. My lawn is small, and I love the quiet purr and easy management of my Toro 21-inch lawn mower. It runs great after 3 years
I have no problem with robotic mowers. I love reel mowing and thats just me. Kids are grown up and I like working in the yard. As for the Ego mowers , I think you will find them at Lowes along with the trimmers. Lowes has made Ego there main electric mower trimmer thing.
What a time we live in where a lawn mower is an appreciating asset…
smh 🤦♂️
Bwahaha... new currency
You asked about the Milwaukee, well I’ll give my honest opinion as an avid Milwaukee Tool user. First off, I owned a gas Toro super recycler with 190cc Briggs engine and loved it but just sold it to stay battery only. So now I currently own last years Toro 60v recycler 22” and now the new Milwaukee Fuel mower. I absolutely love the Milwaukee which I was concerned about the drive system because of how much I love toro’s personal pace but it’s not an issue like I anticipated. My front yard in total is 6,900 sq. Feet and I can cut all of that 1-1/2 times before the batteries die on the Milwaukee which exceeded my expectations tremendously! It has plenty of power and cuts great with sharp blades but I have found if I wait just a little too long to cut the grass and am taking a little too much off it does struggle to fully get an even cut and you have to hit spots again sometimes. But overall I am very impressed with it and it doesn’t leave behind as much clippings as the Toro Recycler unless your taking too much off which almost any mower will at that point.
That’s great to hear. It looks very impressive and the other one that was standing out was the dewalt.
What is the exact blade you upgraded to? Model number please. I have a toro super recycler 21 inch. I just want to make sure i have the Best mulching blade i can purchase. Probably next season 2024 i will get a new gas super recycler 21 inch. ? My yard is about 10 k sq ft of grass and it just seems like the 60 volt battery is not cutting the grass as good as the gas model. I am very fussy and i keep my lawn pristine. Tough decision because i hate taking my gas toro for a spring tune up and dealing with buying gas. And to me you would think the battery model would be less expensive than the gas model.
The "autobot" looks like a good idea for the small flat English back yard, however those of us with trees and leaves to pick-up, need a bagging capacity. It is either that or keep raking until the blisters show up. As for electric vs gas, I was sold on electric after I bought my first cordless tool years ago, a Greenworks hedge trimmer. Then I switched to EGO because of their improved tool line and battery ratings. I do appreciate "Green" and still like my gas Toro super recycler. However, I'm moving to an electric mower next to save my hearing. A 20-25 db drop in noise output is a big deal.
I have setup 8 automowers in Miami Fl and the Florida Keys for customers with Empire Zoysia and seashore paspalum with great success. More lateral growth and thicker lawns with less weeds and pest problems. The landscapers use heavy mowers, dull blades and weed eaters so the difference is significant
I’m already seeing the growth pattern of my kbg shift to a similar look to when I was reel
Mowing
That’s impressive, would not have even thought you would see an improvement in lawn quality. Are you trying these mowers on tall lawns? For Florida, I’m assuming St. Augustine. I’m on the West Coast, so it’s tall fescue that I cut at 4” in the summer, 3-3.5” Spring and Fall.
I have not set one up on St Augustine yet. I believe it would work fine on one of the highest cut settings.
I think our Home Depot has shifted more to the Toro, but the EGO is still going strong.
When I bought my time master in fall of 2019, it was 1200 for electric start, 1100 without. HD had $100 off, plus another $100 off for opening a HD credit card. So $1000. To see it at $1500 is painful.
It will only go up.
I am waiting for a timemaster electric to come out
Used mine for the first time last weekend and agree 100%. it does not mulch/recycle anywhere near my previous gas one.
That’s really my only complaint
@@Lawncology my guess is blade isn't spinning fast enough. When it goes through thick grass it speeds blade up.
@@spartanchirho yes it does do that. Seems like that’s the standard speed it should have
My Gardena Robomower has been cutting since 2016, and has over 5000 hours on it. Will never go back to manual cutting ever again.
Any experience with the 60v Super Recycler? I have the gas and love it. Wonder if the 60v SR would resolve the lack of mulching issues you had with the Recycler.
I have model 21388. Come with 2 blades, I use the performance blade. Cut quality is very good, bags fall leaves easily. Mulches very good. Has side discharge chute as well, newer model 21566 got rid of side discharge option. Oh yea, my 21388 looks badass.
Do you think the auto mower can handle a decent incline? In my case the yard slopes decently upward from street level before going flat.
yes i do
I wasn't sure if the 25in Greenworks electric mower would be a great cut. But now it sounds like I'm thinking more about blades not a machine. Definitely a bigger deck. I enjoy looking at what's out there. Seems like a whole lot of fun to me, the wife not so much 😂.
I see an awful lot of head shaking when I start talking more lawn Equipment.
Does the consumer level 60Volt have the mulch kickers under the deck? Those are the magic of the Recycler system. Some dont have those and they do not perform well
The super recycler 60v model has the kicker system.
This is why I love my Honda HRX217. It mulches so well. It’s crazy the price increases tho. I think I paid $750-$800 for it last season. It’s now almost $1k for the same model. Bonkers
thats a huge percentage
@@Lawncology it’s asinine and I don’t buy the reasoning behind these massive price hikes on everything. Inflation is real yes. But to the extent they’re trying to justify these amounts on everything? I don’t think so
inflation, baby
@@lawnguy a lot of these companies are using “inflation” to hike more than they need to. Pure greed
@@1975oldschool exactly my point. I’m not buying into their Bs stories
Just subscribed, I like the video I have a Makita battery powered mower. I hate it, it leaves straglers and doesn't cut cleanly, even if blade is sharpen. My question to you is do you have any worries that the automated mower might be stolen by kids?
I sold mine because it didn’t bag well and purchased that Milwaukee mower and have had nothing but problems out of it. It runs for 90 seconds and cuts off then you can start it and go for another 90 seconds and it cuts off. I took the first one back I’m on my second one and it’s doing the same thing. My non-bagging Toro isn’t looking so bad at this point
That’s crazy.
You did not say what year you bought it.
So where is all the grass clipping going to go with robo mower after a few month? there is only so much mulch clipping a lawn can use!!
I've the same mower & don't use the bagger. I find the mulching works best when the bottom is cleaned out and my blades are sharpened. I bet most ppl don't sharpen their blades or clean the bottom out of dried clumpy grass. Best part of all the battery operated flex lawn equipment is they can use the same battery & charger. I've the mower, trimmer, edger, blower & chain saw. I've a 1/3 of an acre with an inground pool so I mow less. I've a small hill and the mower works great. Is it more powerful than my previous gas john deere mowers, gosh no. Is it better than paying someone else to do it, yes. My garage and shed no longer smell like gas.
I’ve got all the extras too. I’m thinking of getting a multi tool that exchanged heads
Yeah, I've not been super impressed with my Toro 60V and trying to keep my bermuda cut short...
it cuts, but leave clumps/lines of grass everywhere.
I guess that's why they have the 60V blower too.
Works fine on my fescue that I cut at 3-4"
I do use my blower still. Quite a bit actually
I remember those lines of clumps! I called them the green drifts 😁
Jason, which model?
Do these self-propelled battery mowers use belts like a gas mower?
Yea
How can one of these mowers appreciate? ..the second it was used it lost a good percent of the initial purchase price...
I think it's important to note which model Toro 60v you had as there are a few different ones that have been available over the years. I have one of the original models 20366 which I'm assuming you are referring to here. Newer models have the ability to run the mower on full speed permanently instead of only when needed which drastically improves the cut. This is an important difference that people should be aware of. There are also changes to the mower deck in newer models and they now have a 60v super recycler model as well.
Totally agree! I had the 60V Recycler when it first came out. Then switched to the 60V Super Recycler when it became available. The Super Recycler offers three blades one is a regular blade, another is a high lift blade and the third is even a higher lift blade. With tall fescue, the highest lift blade works best for our lawn, but higher lift blades consume more battery time. I believe at some point I’ll go with a robo mower, but not at that point yet.
@@minoutv7347 Same here, I had the red 2021 model because the Super Recycler was unavailable due to COVID. But the suction was meh, bagging and recycling weren't very good. But the Super Recycler I picked up in 2022 (with the headlights) even on automatic speed but with the high lift blade is soooo much better. Though I personally liked the non-shock absorbing handle on the red one.
Do you think the super recycler is on par with an honda hrx , I thorn between the 2 but if the super is egale to the honda without the sound I think I hwve à winner
@@TheDanytremblay I can't say because I have never tried the Honda. However, the LCN has a video comparing the two and they seem to be on par, though these were both gasoline engines in this particular video. What I do know is with the Toro Super Recycler 60V, my lawn looks like it has been cross cut, even though I only made one pass in one direction. My local Toro dealer said the reason why is because Toro put one of their professional motors on the consumer Super Recycler and that is why it gives a better cut. However, as I stated before, I have not compared this side by side with a Honda. But I have never seen such an even cut in one pass with the older 60V Recycler model.
@@minoutv7347 Which model re: older 60V recycler?
So you approve of the gas toro super recycler 21 inch??
I have the same 60v Toro mower (last year's model version) and agree with the shortcomings talked about here. I do enjoy using it though, in spite of those, and just kinda work around them. My biggest "plus" for these types of mowers is that they are just easy to maintain and use. I despise messing with oil, filters, gas, exhaust, tune-ups, etc. You just roll it out, pop the battery in and you're off and running. They are also easy to move around and fold up/store to get them out of the way....so light and compact.
I agree with all of that.
Auto mower lawns reminds me of sheep pastures. Once they are in a pasture for awhile they will trim that pasture down to an even hight everywhere - into every hole and over every mound (then sheep farmer moves them to new pasture). No 💩 though!
So no wheel path marks at all?… like at all? Just the frost which i get.
Robo lawns here in michigan have rendom paths all over like a random robo vac’d rug. Now I am wondering - Maybe they were recent or set higher or not run enough….
Thanks for the content-
i dislike the random path look myself - but… your saying you don’t have that look at all?
Your best guess please - is this because yours runs allot?
Now I am more curious again for my lawn.
No path marks accept where it wheels in and out of its charging station. That’s easily remedied.
I had a Toro years ago. I was not happy with the cut, the mulching and the clumping. I have had a Honda since and only with minimal issues. I’m not ready to make the jump to the battery powered models-yet!
I wonder what the world would be like of electric had been first?
Just realized something, does Honda even have a battery offering?
@@minoutv7347 Google says that they do, but I haven’t seen any of them.
From what I have seen on UA-cam and the reviews on Reddit... it seems like the battery mowers all have the suction problem and just aren't ready for prime time yet. Ill wait 10 years before getting a battery one.
TimeMaster has gone up 33% in 4-5 years. I'll keep buying used mowers and tweaking them to perfection. I'd love a wide area machine, just not for 1500 bucks.
Its a lot for sure. Maybe they’re making the final profit play
I see a few comments but would like your take on all my concerns in ref. to a robo mower. Maybe you can speak to my concerns if not perhaps someone else can answer. I live it TX, have St. St. Augustine, 10K Sf of grass, no hills but pretty uneven terrain in spots, sprinkler heads and septic heads and fenced in backyard and I am super Hank Hill about the way my yard looks. Because of the heat I cut it super long, 4in actually it would be higher if I could figure out how 4x4 my push mower. Will a Robo mower handle the the height and thickness of the grass, is it going to mulch well or leave trash everywhere? Are they like my robo vac and sometimes get stuck and need help? Since I have no desire to pick the thing up and move it from the front to the back and am to cheap to buy 2 could I build a robo doggie door or something for the transition from front to back yard, would it even be able to do that move since it would need to go up the driveway over several feet to get to the back yard? Thanks.
If I were you, I’d check and see what cut heights are possible. Seems like 2.5 is pretty close to max
@@Lawncology Thanks. Yeah I went and looked at the website - you know like I should have done before I asked- :) and 2.5 is the max, Don't feel like that is anywhere near high enough for me, even though those the N-Ext products I use... shameless plug...are super, TX heat is so unforgiving I think it would struggle at that height.
@@Joseph-ko2kl They have a H model that cuts higher
I have one and I hate it. Its weak and definitely doesnt bag properly.
I have the 60V Super Recycler. Seems to do just fine compared to the gas options. Regarding the robot mower, no thanks. Need strips!
The stripe kits are coming
@@Lawncology Now that I really want to see!
I WILL own a Husqvarna one day. I want it to do the bulk of the mowing on the bermuda. One day I'll get one... but by that time the next innovation of mowers will be out.
Yes, obsolete year over year!
Does the robot mower ever miss any areas.
No. Because you set it to mow pretty much all the time, it will get everything. Once your lawn has been cut to your height setting, it always looks the same
I sell both Ego and Milwaukee mowers/product, and here is how I see it: Ego is the best battery platform on the market with all the tools available to the home owner. Milwaukee is the best battery push mower on the market. Just an opinion of course.
I've had the Ego, the Ryobi and the Greenworks. I now have the electric Toro. None of these electric mowers mulch like my gas powered Poulan Pro with a Honda engine but for me the Toro is the best munched of the electrics I've had.
That’s good feedback there. They do all seem to struggle.
EGO distributor is Lowes while Ryobi lawn mower is Home Depot thing
Give the Ego a go. Switched to that from a Honda this year and love it
I’ll have to run one again
at the end of the day, gas is always better, unless you have a postage stamp flat lawn.
Batteries are always crap after a couple of years.
Ego is exclusively at Lowes and ACE and Amazon now.
Do you still have to weed whack since it looks like the wire isn't right to the edge?
I do. I left it far enough away from the edging so it wouldn’t get stuck
@@Lawncology That's my problem. I'm not very good with that spinning' line ;)
Ego as a company is still a leader in the electric market they just switched to Lowe’s and ace hardware that’s all
Didn’t ego do an exclusivity deal with lowes?
Apparently
Both big boxes nailed down a preferred supplier. TTI for HD, Chervon (who makes eGo) for Lowes. EGo is also avail on Amazon or in ACE hardware stores.
I had bought one of these for my mom, and she didn’t like it. Felt heavy yet junky, with poor maneuverability, and cut quality was average at best. Took it back to Depot and got a Super Recycler instead. Far superior machine in every way!
The super recycler is awesome
So what are your current thoughts on the Husqvarna? Still like it?
Love it
Milwaukee mower price going to $1,300.00 btw
For anyone already on m18 platform… no tool only option yet.
That’s wild.
Is this considered a "commercial-grade" mower??? or homeowner special
I'll be looking forward to the full review of the robo-mower; this is kinda shocking that you are being so positive so far about it, as I know you are highly demanding
....personally I just decided to stick it out for another 5 more years with my original 80v Pro GreenWorks tool lineup, and get a fresh mower and battery of the same again; as the rest of my tools are in great shape, but I was very abusive to the first mower - so for $500 I refreshed the mower(take better care of it this time) and upped it to a 5ah battery(400watt hours), then I can gift the beater mower and decent battery to my Mom or someone, as it still works fine(likely a new blade) then that will give me a total of 10 years(5 before, and another 5 to come) to see what will be developed new then - as I know the GreenWorks is ageing some in design, but really all eMowers are still so close to the same; so I'll feel better sticking it out with my whole tool lineup, instead of taking a small side-step to adopt another battery system of tools - as you really have to consider that battery lawn tools/eMowers make the most sense when you get multi products in that line, so they all can share the same batteries which is where the investment is
I suppose it could be different if you only had a single tool like the eMower alone, and you could jump around; but then you are missing out on another of the biggest advantages of these battery systems
The only thing I wish I did different was put the wire closer to the edging. I thought it would get stuck like a roomba but that doesn’t happen. The grass looks better and better each day (spring is here) and I’m curious what height I’ll settle in at. I just shut off the system for the next three days as we are getting heavy frost every night through Monday. We will see how she goes.
My concern with robo mowers are this. It mows when I’m not watching it so what’s stopping someone from stealing it right out of my yard? I don’t live in a poor neighborhood but it is a big neighborhood and I don’t trust some of my neighbors. I don’t even know some of my neighbors. It would be really easy for someone to grab it and go. With theft so high even at public stores, I’m afraid to get a robo mower. To answer another comment, I have the HRN216 Honda and despite its “twin blades” I’m very disappointed in it. The cut is terrible and the engine has had multiple problems. Honda is recalling all of their mowers and they pulled the remaining ones from stores. They also stopped making lawnmowers permanently. There will be no Hondas anymore. My 20 year old Honda still runs like a champ, better than the new one did. I found a brand new EGO 56V with a 7.5aH battery for $350 on Facebook. I only took the chance because I have other EGO tools that can use that 7.5 battery so it was worth the gamble. I still haven’t mowed with it yet.
I would say that review is 100% spot. Works well, not great. Doesn't bother me at all.
Yeah exactly. I dont think it’s bad, room for improvement for sure but isn’t that the case with everything?
Imo EGO is still the king of battery equipment. I see they even partnered with Allet for the reel mowers. Love all my EGO tools.
It doesn’t mulch well because the mulch blade it’s not on the mower when it ships it has the standard plate so you need to replace that first thing second thing for bagging put the mower and turbo mode. You’ll get a much better cut. My lawn looks fantastic.
Cool. Mine had the mulching blade stock, no turbo mode.
with all that land you have i would get a riding lawn mower
Price increases as of late for both electric and gas are terrible. I bought my Timemaster 3 years ago for $999. Now it's $1500. Just crazy.
That’s so much
Inflation
@@WooderBoyProductions I would speculate that a 50% increase over 3 years is more than just inflation.
@@JimmyLewisMows it doesn’t really matter when toro is sending them out for free.
Toro is only bug because they give them away. Try the Milwaulkee and you will appreciate it in comparison. I purchase all my equipment the M18 is legit in my lawn. Honda HRX217 is officially going into retirement. Toro battery equipment is a promotional joke.
Ego is no longer sold at Home Depot, it is now sold at Lowes. Home Depot went all in on Ryobi.
I was the only one in the world who didn’t know this
The automower (ugh) cuts daily, hence the primo cut.. I bet if you cut with the Toro daily, it will give a primo cut too..
I do one to two cuts on the green daily… that’s enough for me. Maintaining 1/10” grass is time consuming 😂
@@Lawncology You are absolutely right..!!
Nice honest opinion!!
Just my own two cents
Early, and cheaper, electric mowers focused on efficiency at the expensive of cut quality. Much like electric cars - if you put bigger wheels/tires, more acceleration/speed, then you lose range.
If you put bigger blades on an electric mower, or spin the blade faster, you lose time. My 22" toro60v cut quality and suction was poor out of the box. I switched for a high lift blade when I want to bag or switch to toros 22in atomic blade when I want mulch (interestingly, the 22" 60v comes with a 21in blade, likely to save battery lift). Both blades significantly improve the quality at the expense of runtime.
I wish mine had a button or switch to run at max power all the time (the newer ones do). Again, that's a a runtime/battery saver
Yes you are right. When I switch to an Oregon blade it was considerably better. For the area being mowed I didn’t notice a decrease in run time, I would finish the lawn and then charge the battery. So it’s possible it dropped a few seconds with the new blade but not enough to matter.
My day gig is at Lowes, Ego sales are huge despite the price hikes.
Still too early for me to switch from gas
to battery, but the automowers really intrigue me.
Nice video JP...
Im guessing they did a deal for exclusivity with Lowes
@@Lawncology that's what I understand. we have them coming in daily to replenish stock. Mowers, trimmers, they are all big sellers
@@UrbanDadLife2024 that makes perfect sense. There were so many here last year, it was weird they were suddenly gone.
Dunno, I enjoy mowing grass. Maybe I would switch to robo when I’m an old man. Until then it’s gas all the way
I bought a honda HRX2176HZA it was 1200 dollars, I will never have a battery powered mower
I'll stick to my Allett and my Earthwise for now. When the day comes I can no longer get out there and mow myself , I am hoping by then the Robo mower will have his cousin the Robo edger and weed wacker available lol 🤣
I’m sure something like that will be around before long!
Hey there Striperman!
@@minoutv7347 Hello Maureen , longtime since we heard from you. Hope all is well.
@@Striperman Good to hear from you! Last year a family illness took up most of my time. Just now starting to get back to my lawn and other yard projects. So no more push reel mowers? I bet your new Allett is sweeeeet!! I still have my Brill push mower. For some reason I don’t want to part with it, even though it cuts too low for my type of lawn. I traded my 60V Recycler for the 60V Super Recycler, for tall fescue, its great. Still using the Green County products, going to try the granular fert that Pete at GCI is carrying, since we both have tall fescue, thought I’d give it a try.
There is a big difference between the normal Toro Recycler and their Super Recycler
Sold my EGO for same reason, nothing like gas.
Is it good for overgrown bush? No one wants a 70's era bush.
I'm not sure about this battery mowers and especially the robot mowers as alyn says enjoy the mow to me that's the whole part about having a lawn is the care of it at least it is for me i have a few neighbors who absolutely need to have one or just to busy but I have a lot of time for the mow that's why I do it every other day can you say lawn nerd 🤣😂 the battery zero turns have my interest so I will be keeping an eye on those
I spend so much time mowing my green that I don’t need to do the main lawn 😂
@@Lawncology yep she is a high maintenance girl 😳😏🤔😂🤣 plus you are in high demand with us lawn nerds ☺️ thanks again for what you do
Ego moved to lowes thats why you don't see them in home depot anymore.
Ego went from HD to Lowes this season here
Home Depot Stopped selling Ego so they could focus on their own brands. Lowes it the main Ego dealer now.
It depends what you really want a mower to do. Toro batteries are made in China. And I never buy a mower from a big box store. I changed to a battery mower and ONLY buy from a dealer. It's not a Toro. It's great! Bottom line, you can't expect battery mowers to do the job that some gasoline mowers do. Want perfection, I suggest buying a commercial gasoline mower.
Ego went to Lowes.
Good to see this from you John. I’ve been obsessing over battery powered mowers within the last few years and will pull the trigger soon. That’s good to know about the Toro in terms of the suction and mulching capabilities. It seems to me that Ego is still top of the pops in terms of innovation (twin blade etc). That Milwaukee does look bad ass. I know it should have no bearing on the decision making process, but I find myself allowing aesthetics to be a deciding factor. With that said I’ve been intrigued by the 80v Harbor Freight Atlas…anyone have thoughts on that? I’ll most likely break down and buy the Star Trek ass Ego….this was good brother. Oh and also:
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If you didn’t buy a mower already get the ego select cut xp which is the top of the range model it’s awesome