@@tylerweese2213no, it just said that a group of convicts escaped in summer and most of them died. They could've died for a number of different reasons. It doesn't mean they froze to death.
Yeah facts just looking at places like coastal highway & mystery lake & pleasant valley are a pretty dead give away the summers were beautiful! And if I remember correctly, mountain town has references of it being a popular destination for climbers in the summer
As an Islander who grew up on the northern outskits of Courtney-Comox on Vancouver Island. I always just kinda knew The Long Dark was in BC (British Columbia). But found it's more remoteness to mean it was most likely within or close to the Haida Gwaii chain or close to the pan handle in the few islands that America didn't steal away are. As even the north bit of the island up near Port Hardy feels more developed than Great Bear Island. Also, weather on the island... Vancouver island, is rarely even close to the same weather, even in a apocalyptic event, I feel like there would have to be an event like one in the Frostpunk universe to get the Island that cold. But either way, I'm just glad there's a little bit of my childhood home area within such a well liked game, and fictional or otherwise, I love Great Bear Island just as much as Vancouver Island... though sometimes I wish everyone wasn't like Greymother in my old hometown.
Hey fellow islander, I live in courteney, and yeah Long Dark does feel way to isolated to be vancouver island, I mean we have some pretty big cities on the island here.
I agree 100%. I'm a resident of the suburbs of Vancouver, and got the same impression. Given that the game takes place near the south coast of Great Bear, and that part of Vancouver Island is too warm, and dominated by VIctoria, a big city and we sure as hell don't see a big city of over 350,000 people anywhere in Desolation Point, Crumbling Highway, Coastal Highway or Bleak Inlet. It has to be Haida-Gwaii.
@@Seriously_Unserious victoria is the south of the island, and i mean it makes up the whole southern tip of the island. My city is mid island, in between me and victoria, you got qualicum, parksville, nanaimo, duncan, cowichan and other communities, there is just no way that big bear feels like vancouver island other than having similar trees. we also don't have moose, very little wolves, though we do have plenty of cougars which big bear does not.
Using the dev console or any form out of bound camera, all decorative globes inside of buildings contain a massive portion of land between Alaska and Russia (which is probably a badly reconnected texture, although they do indicate an island almost the same size of Australia). If Great Bear belongs to the pacific ocean then it most likely is a super-sized version of the Diomede or St. Lawrence islands
no its not. Its in british columbia in canada. The old mans beard lichen grows on the north east coast of the pacific ocean (south alaska, southwest yukon and west british columbia). The place used to be suitable for agroculture (many farms in the game obviously prove that) LOL, it even also happens that there is a national park called the great bear island in british columbia. Coincidence?
@@mr_pukishexcept that in game text and characters specify northern Canada as the location, as well as the island being far too remote to be in the Vancouver area.
I would say if you had to put it on the map, it would be quite north somewhere on the west coast, since it is made obvious in the game that it is very remote and sparsely populated. Altough it is still of course inspired by parts of Vancouver Island.
I'm a resident of BC, and from a local perspective, there's a 0% chance of Great Bear being where Vancouver Island is. First off, the playable part of the island is along the south coast, which on Vancouver Island IRL is dominated by BC's provincial capital of Victoria, which is a large city of at least 350,000 people. Great Bear is a largely forgotten island, and no way the seat of the provincial Legislature would forgot their own homes. I'd place Great Bear is a fictional island that's part of the Haida-Gwaii chain off the coast of northern BC, near the Alaskan Panhandle.
If I recall, one of the older survival mode intro screens specifically said that your plane went down in Northern British Columbia (coast). Also to note, the developer's older roadmap from a few years ago had mentioned some "possible updates to the game if time permitted." A couple potential features would have been a complete seasons system which would include snow melting away in warmer weather, as well as potentially growing a crop for sustainability.
I absolutely love this. I am such a nerd for the long dark and I love researching this kind of stuff. To have a video about it makes me so happy, now I know I’m not the only one 🤣❤️
I feel the same way.. It's such a fantastic game with so much to discover and think about but it isn't popular because it's too slow paced for general audiences so there aren't a whole lot of informative resources on the game.
@@ericcartman9594 oh right, you mean in the game! 🤣 um yeah I tend to hunt the rabbits, eat the wolves, fish etc. It's very hard to do and sometimes I'll have a cattail to prevent death haha but otherwise it's just a bit of fun in game
Vancouver has a large swath of territory called Great Bear Rainforest, and along its western coastline there are islands, some large, some small. Unless Raphael tells us specifically we can only speculate, but surely this area is the inspiration. Banks Island has both whaling, and mining industries, so it might be a candidate. As far as temps, they are noted as being that low due to "the event", and we can see that the place once had industry which could not exist in it's present "in game" state.
I'd forgotten about the coastal rainforest up north! That would confirm my own suspicion that Great Bear Island is in the Haida-Gwaii chain of islands, which are off the coast of northern BC, for anyone else reading this comment not familiar with BC's islands.
I always thought the extreme cold was part of the apocalypse event in the long dark. I feel like it's obviously a combination of places around BC mostly on the coast / islands. one thing in particular is that people in Canada refer to the southern area of bc as the "mainland". and from living on an island myself in the same region we also called anything off the island "over town" or "the mainland". you can hear and read about "the mainland" several times in the game. I feel like it's an obvious nod to it being located somewhere in the south west B.C. region. I feel like the only reason we don't see more populated areas presented in the game is only because A. it wouldn't be as fun for a survival game and B. they just haven't added those regions yet.
Based on everything you talked about I wanna say it's a combination of all 3 areas... Vancouver Island gives the inspirational look....the northern isles inspire the temps (with it being a post apocalyptic being the reason for the EXTREME temps) and the Newfoundland area giving the snowy effects as again the PA being the cause for the blizzards and stuff to last longer
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I recall somewhere in the script of the game, either at the beginning of survival mode or Wintermute that the same disaster that caused the geomagnetic disruption also caused a slight axial tilt in the earth? That would easily make for an endless winter anywhere in Canada.
The Great Bear Rainforest is a notable Canadian Pacific Coast area, east of Graham Island (north of Vancouver Island), and it has many islands, but they are very close to shore. It is remote and sparsely populated, like Great Bear Island in The Long Dark.
The game takes place in a post apocalypse setting where a sun flare took out all electronics and made both nature and animals much more fierce so it explains the colder than usual weather and in the long dark the winter never ends, supporting the post apocalypse theory more and as others said there is fire lookouts, summer camps and several farms meaning the weather on the island was better before the apocalypse.
There's a constellation in the TLD's night sky that looks very close to the Acrux, which can only be seen from southern regions. Maybe I'm mistaken, but if it is truly Acrux, that would be interesting.
I was thinking it could be somewhere near the Rocky Mountains - some remote settlements, high mountains, freezing cold. I grew up in northeastern British Columbia, and temperatures could get down to -20 and even -50 on a rare occasion. Another sign that the game is on the west coast is that the gas station is called "Orca," which is a West Coast symbol. :)
I buy the idea that Vancouver island inspires the look. However, I think the character of the people and the economy more closely matches Newfoundland. Newfoundland is famous for its culture of independence, and the fact that it’s economy has already been destroyed by the destruction of the fisheries industry by international industrial fishing fleets. Tthere are abandoned settlements all over Newfoundland. So Great Bear may be a mix of both coasts.
I always felt that it was like in the middle-north part of hudson's bay since they speak of their isolation and hudsons bay is a big place. But north west coast is also possible i think. The lore talks about american fishing boats being present by great bear so maybe somewhere around alaska?
There are Orchards and Hay Fields. You don't grow Hay and orchards in below freezing. Also logs are in the Bay but the Ice is around them so it must be a sign it was a Warmer Climate at some point. One last thing not all houses have sources of Heat in them so some Cabins must have been Summer/Vacation places. Something happened to cause an "Ice Age" so to speak.
Awesome video. I’ve always wanted to know the true inspiration and location in Canada for TLD. Another clue worth noting is that the Old Mans Beard Lichen found on trees in-game say “A lichen found in the ancient forests of the Pacific Northwest”. Another thing is that I believe in the lore of the game, the Aurora messed with Mother Nature as well as the harsh climate and weather of Great Bear Island if I am not mistaken so that could be a plausible reason for the drastic temperature differences.
Not really off anything but map design, I’ve always thought it was Banks island slightly north of Vancouver island. I remember early access there being a loading screen or something that mentioned British Columbia. Still I’m glad that other people think it’s on the west coast too. Absolutely love the long dark and great video
The endless winter is a cataclysm. The place used to be suitable for agroculture. Oh and about the location its probably in northern british columbia, since the old man's bear lichen description says that the lichen can be found on the coast of north east pacific.
If you go to the Forsaken airfeild terminal you can see posters for Coastal highway, Desolation point and Mystery lake and it is shown in them that great bear is a warm climate in the summer. (I also really want those posters) Edit: i should also note that the fish could've migrated to another location due to the auroras messing with wildlife behaviour.
As a resident of BC, I always picked one of the Haida-Gwaii islands as being the likeliest candidate, as the game appears to take place on or near the SOUTH coast of the island it's on, and the south coast of Vancouver Island is dominated by the metropolitan city of Victoria, BC, and Victoria has the warmest weather and least amount of snow in all of Canada, and is the site of the Provincial Capital of BC, again, Victoria, which has a population last I heard, of over 350,000 people. Nowhere, on the south coast regions of the map, have we encountered this city or anything even remotely close to it. The Haida-Gwaii Islands (formerly known as the Queen Charlotte Islands) is a small archipelago of islands, including some large enough to represent Great Bear Island, along the northern coast of BC, near the Alaskan Panhandle. Given the scenario of TLD, it's very plausible, if the Quiet Apocalypse is turning into the beginning of a major glaciation in the Pleistocene Ice Age, then those islands could very plausibly see the freezing temperatures and lack of summer that we see in The Long Dark. They were fully glaciated during the last major glaciation about 10 thousand years ago.
I'm pretty sure it's always been clear to the developers that "Great Bear Island" was a fictional island off the coast of northern B.C. The Great Bear rainforest region is a real location in B.C., and there are a LOT of islands off the coast. I think they chose not to make it a specific island like Haida Gwaii for a reason -- and one of the reasons may have been out of respect for Indigenous peoples, including (but not limited to) the Haida nation. Making it a fictional island also gives them leeway for map creation, and gives players more mystery because they won't have real world maps to rely upon.
Being a Newfoundlander I can say that we do have some very cold winters and the weather can change in a minute, there is a saying that goes...if you don't like the weather go inside for 10 minutes and check again. Growing up in the 70's and 80's was a lot different than now, we would have snow in places in June. We also have good soil for farming, but we do not have Coho Salmon and we do not have Bass in our waters, we do have Trout but mostly brown and brook also We do not have deer or wolves here, we have moose, coyote, bear, fox and Caribou.
Absolutely love this video! I’ve often found myself trying to place the game’s setting as well, and I came to about the same conclusion. I live in British Columbia on the west coast, and I also tried using the animals to inform my guess. The salmon, black bears, wolves, deer (which look a lot like elk), rainbow trout and so on all made me think of Vancouver island, especially since there are no grizzly bears in the game, which are notably absent from the island. The smallmouth bass in the game, which are native to eastern Canada, also supported this actually, because they are an introduced species over much of the island’s south! But there were a few though that didn’t quite fit, like how moose and whitefish are not present on the island, and same with the new burbot and goldeye. Another potential region I thought about was the great lakes, like lake Superior, as it is big enough to have large islands, and also has many of the same animals. Black bears, wolves and elk are all present, and even rainbow trout and coho salmon are introduced to the lake. If Great Bear were a fictional island on lake Superior, the moose, burbot and whitefish would all make sense then as well. Then again, they did also add red Irish lord and rockfish, which are only found on the west coast here, so I’d say they’re drawing inspiration from both regions, and probably not as focused on placing the map in a real location as I am lol. When I looked, some plants like cedar trees and wild roses are found in both regions as well. Anyways, it’s always neat to see other people having fun and sharing their curiosity and enthusiasm for the game!
The problem I have is that great bear island feels tiny. It doesn’t seem like if it was an irl island it would be any larger than Narau. On great bear island, there is only 1 town, a village, some trailers, some mines, a cannery, a tiny airport, a railroad system, and some other thing in desolation point. There really isn’t much. Vancouver has big cities.
следует упомянуть тот факт, что зима в TLD началась намного раньше положенного и это мы узнаём из начала 1 главы в режиме wintrmut, что указывает на то, что с температурой что-то случилось и явно в худшею сторону.
Great Bear is nothing less than a star constellation which is originally called Ursa Major and I remember that it can be seen only in the northern hemisphere (correct me if I'm wrong). So I think of this naming as a coincidence.
I thought they were pretty open about the location? The studio is in British columbia and the devs have said numerous times that the game takes place there
I always thought it was in the northwest territories...the no-trees part really threw that idea in the trash XD. Although we have even more proof of your claim too - the cowichan sweater, said in game to be designed by the First Nations people of BC. Looking it up, the Cowichan people even live on Vancouver island and knit them themselves, so there's no calling any normal sweater a cowichan unless it's actually from them. Though, isn't great bear supposed to be remote? Like the only way you're getting there is by boat or plane, right? I'd like to think Vancouver is pretty well connected but I haven't been yet. Probably a fictional island further north.
hey i am from Van Isl lol so lets narrow it down a bit more i would say it is one of the inlets on northern part of the island like Gold river Zeballious Tahsis BUT it does not get that cold minus 10 c is rare sure we have had some cold spells but cool vid and subbed
One of the thing that need to be acknowledged is that there is sign in french in the game. And a prisoner with an accent from quebec in wintermute. Witch could point out that the game is much closer to quebec and so more on the antlatic side.
The game definitely does not take place on the East Coast. Remember, in the Wintermute we had frequent earthquakes going on, which they do not really happen on the other side anywhere near that often. Also one of the gatherable resources (old man's beard lichen) in the game clearly indicates the events take place in the PNW.
@@muratgun6469I agree it's in BC but Old mans beard grows on the east coast too, particularly the maritimes. Did a road trip and saw it for the first time in NB. As for the frenchman in wintermute, he's a max security prisoner, they could've transferred him from anywhere. And french signage should be on every federal building regardless of which province thanks to Quebec.
There is one place in real life that is exactly like the long dark, it is called the Yukon, it's close to Canada, anyway in the Yukon average temperatures are 50 below 0 negative Fahrenheit, it's snowy and cold 247 but during summertime, the temperatures are usually between 0 and 10 degrees Fahrenheit the highest on average being a solid 18-23 during the warmest summer days but the wind is also horrible in the area
Just FYI, The Yukon is in Canada, and your temperature ranges are way off. Whitehorse (largest city in The Yukon) is forecast to hit 27C next week (80F) and stay there for a couple weeks.
I guess people don't know how to read. It's stated in game that the island is off the coast of Canada on the Pacific ocean which narrows it down to Northern BC. The island is supposed to be based off either Haida Gwaii or Prince of Wales, Alaska.
Timberwolves could be invasive species in TLD universe. Looking at the elevation maps, I highly doubt the game takes place in the East Coast. The island (and the surrounding lands) are very mountainous and the region has frequent earthquakes. So, not East Coast, but most likely the Pacific Northwest.
The air temperature in the interior caves will also tell you the average air temperature of the island year round. (Which we know to be above freezing)
This game is definitely not on vancouver island, as a resident of van isle, we are not even close to being as remote as the long dark is. Victoria our provicial capital is a huge city, and all along the coast of the island are more cities such as duncan, nanaimo, parksville, qualicum, courtenay, campbell river and others,
Another detail to note is that British Columbia has the greatest population of moose in any of the Canadian territories, and moose and present in the game, although maybe not very common
Although BC has lots of moose the biggest density is in NL. This game is definitely inspired by the West coast due to some of the wildlife and terrain. It’s not a specific real place, it’s fictional. Nice to see a game inspired by Canada with ketchup chips, maple syrup and wildlife. The details are such that even the national park signs(like the office at mystery lake have both French and English like all federal locations.
from the animals ive assumed its west coast i live in alberta myself west coat has the bears ive seen minus 55 c in the plains here no problem the animsla cant really be sued for this we dont even have those red deer looking deer in canada
The world of the long dark was created by a strange psychic phenomenon that caused the average American's idea of what Canada is like to be made manifest🤣
I honestly don’t see much of Vancouver island in great bear at all. The long dark always reminds me of western Alberta in winter time, if you made Alberta’s mountains and foothills into an island (save for the coast) that would be very similar to great bear island in both climate, terrain and the kinds of animals you find on great bear. The forest is far too dense and the climate is far far to temperate on Vancouver island. they also don’t have the right wildlife for it to be much like Vancouver island at all
There's only one region of The Long Dark I want to see represented in real life; at least find out if such an environment exists within the inspired landscape. Where would I find Forlorn Muskeg? Does Vancouver Island have it?
That is a good question. I'm sure some parts may resemble that region, but the region definitely look more tundra, like something you'd find in far northern Canada.
how do you know the game is set to be col all year round? maybe they designed the game thinking people would only play for 30-90 days so they set it permanently to be in the winter.. they may have assumed by that time either you would die or you will have done everything and quit. due to developer limitations of money and game mechanics they might find its easier just to not add seasons.. fallout 4 doesnt have seasons.. its permanently one season... i believe this isnt because of the apocalypse setting its in but because they didnt want to add it or couldnt. its the same in 7 days to die. its set as biomes.. desert, forest, snow, wasteland.. it stays the same no matter how long you play. so based on this, i feel you are wrong that this game is set in a place that is permanently winter, it just so happens that it is permanently winter because they couldnt be bothered to add seasons to the game... i feel like im repeating myself - sorry im not good at being concise
There is a farm in Long Dark, which means it's a suitable land for farming in summer. Obviously the game takes place in an apocalypse.
That is true but also the story in black rock said even In summer it was below freezing so it’s kinda confusing
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@@tylerweese2213no, it just said that a group of convicts escaped in summer and most of them died. They could've died for a number of different reasons. It doesn't mean they froze to death.
@@tylerweese2213black rock is higher up, e.g. nearer the tops of the mountains, whilst the farms are literally lower down in a ‘Pleasant valley’.
@@LivingroomTV-me9oz oh yeah ig that makes sense I didn’t even think about how pleasant being a valley
Letters in the game describe the area as perfect weather in summer for campsites near pleasant valley lake.
Yeah facts just looking at places like coastal highway & mystery lake & pleasant valley are a pretty dead give away the summers were beautiful! And if I remember correctly, mountain town has references of it being a popular destination for climbers in the summer
As an Islander who grew up on the northern outskits of Courtney-Comox on Vancouver Island. I always just kinda knew The Long Dark was in BC (British Columbia). But found it's more remoteness to mean it was most likely within or close to the Haida Gwaii chain or close to the pan handle in the few islands that America didn't steal away are. As even the north bit of the island up near Port Hardy feels more developed than Great Bear Island. Also, weather on the island... Vancouver island, is rarely even close to the same weather, even in a apocalyptic event, I feel like there would have to be an event like one in the Frostpunk universe to get the Island that cold. But either way, I'm just glad there's a little bit of my childhood home area within such a well liked game, and fictional or otherwise, I love Great Bear Island just as much as Vancouver Island... though sometimes I wish everyone wasn't like Greymother in my old hometown.
Hey fellow islander, I live in courteney, and yeah Long Dark does feel way to isolated to be vancouver island, I mean we have some pretty big cities on the island here.
I agree 100%. I'm a resident of the suburbs of Vancouver, and got the same impression. Given that the game takes place near the south coast of Great Bear, and that part of Vancouver Island is too warm, and dominated by VIctoria, a big city and we sure as hell don't see a big city of over 350,000 people anywhere in Desolation Point, Crumbling Highway, Coastal Highway or Bleak Inlet. It has to be Haida-Gwaii.
@@stanboyd1 and it's on the south coast of the island, so where's the Capital city of Victoria and all the Provencal Legislature buildings?!
@@Seriously_Unserious victoria is the south of the island, and i mean it makes up the whole southern tip of the island. My city is mid island, in between me and victoria, you got qualicum, parksville, nanaimo, duncan, cowichan and other communities, there is just no way that big bear feels like vancouver island other than having similar trees. we also don't have moose, very little wolves, though we do have plenty of cougars which big bear does not.
Coastal BC gets like 2 weeks of snow per year. I never understood why they chose here
Using the dev console or any form out of bound camera, all decorative globes inside of buildings contain a massive portion of land between Alaska and Russia (which is probably a badly reconnected texture, although they do indicate an island almost the same size of Australia). If Great Bear belongs to the pacific ocean then it most likely is a super-sized version of the Diomede or St. Lawrence islands
no its not. Its in british columbia in canada. The old mans beard lichen grows on the north east coast of the pacific ocean (south alaska, southwest yukon and west british columbia). The place used to be suitable for agroculture (many farms in the game obviously prove that)
LOL, it even also happens that there is a national park called the great bear island in british columbia. Coincidence?
@@mr_pukishexcept that in game text and characters specify northern Canada as the location, as well as the island being far too remote to be in the Vancouver area.
I would say if you had to put it on the map, it would be quite north somewhere on the west coast, since it is made obvious in the game that it is very remote and sparsely populated. Altough it is still of course inspired by parts of Vancouver Island.
I'm a resident of BC, and from a local perspective, there's a 0% chance of Great Bear being where Vancouver Island is. First off, the playable part of the island is along the south coast, which on Vancouver Island IRL is dominated by BC's provincial capital of Victoria, which is a large city of at least 350,000 people. Great Bear is a largely forgotten island, and no way the seat of the provincial Legislature would forgot their own homes.
I'd place Great Bear is a fictional island that's part of the Haida-Gwaii chain off the coast of northern BC, near the Alaskan Panhandle.
If I recall, one of the older survival mode intro screens specifically said that your plane went down in Northern British Columbia (coast). Also to note, the developer's older roadmap from a few years ago had mentioned some "possible updates to the game if time permitted." A couple potential features would have been a complete seasons system which would include snow melting away in warmer weather, as well as potentially growing a crop for sustainability.
I'd love a season cycle in the long dark
That's good, some of the newer foods would eventually run out.
I absolutely love this. I am such a nerd for the long dark and I love researching this kind of stuff. To have a video about it makes me so happy, now I know I’m not the only one 🤣❤️
I feel the same way.. It's such a fantastic game with so much to discover and think about but it isn't popular because it's too slow paced for general audiences so there aren't a whole lot of informative resources on the game.
Weird question, do you also follow carnivore diet when playing the long dark?
@@ericcartman9594 yes, I’ve been strict carnivore for two years now haha. Why do you ask?
@@Leahroski i find it funny. Like whats your survival strategy, do you look for carcases until you have a gun to hunt yourself? Do you eat fish?
@@ericcartman9594 oh right, you mean in the game! 🤣 um yeah I tend to hunt the rabbits, eat the wolves, fish etc. It's very hard to do and sometimes I'll have a cattail to prevent death haha but otherwise it's just a bit of fun in game
I think the temp argument is null and void. The geomagnetic storm could easily affect the weather which wound also explain the year round winter
I was thinking the same thing
Vancouver has a large swath of territory called Great Bear Rainforest, and along its western coastline there are islands, some large, some small. Unless Raphael tells us specifically we
can only speculate, but surely this area is the inspiration. Banks Island has both whaling, and mining industries, so it might be a candidate. As far as temps, they are noted as being
that low due to "the event", and we can see that the place once had industry which could not exist in it's present "in game" state.
I'd forgotten about the coastal rainforest up north! That would confirm my own suspicion that Great Bear Island is in the Haida-Gwaii chain of islands, which are off the coast of northern BC, for anyone else reading this comment not familiar with BC's islands.
I always thought the extreme cold was part of the apocalypse event in the long dark. I feel like it's obviously a combination of places around BC mostly on the coast / islands. one thing in particular is that people in Canada refer to the southern area of bc as the "mainland". and from living on an island myself in the same region we also called anything off the island "over town" or "the mainland". you can hear and read about "the mainland" several times in the game. I feel like it's an obvious nod to it being located somewhere in the south west B.C. region. I feel like the only reason we don't see more populated areas presented in the game is only because A. it wouldn't be as fun for a survival game and B. they just haven't added those regions yet.
Based on everything you talked about I wanna say it's a combination of all 3 areas... Vancouver Island gives the inspirational look....the northern isles inspire the temps (with it being a post apocalyptic being the reason for the EXTREME temps) and the Newfoundland area giving the snowy effects as again the PA being the cause for the blizzards and stuff to last longer
I heard they based the region loosely on Vancouver Island, though that does not match the climate or terrain. Likely it is just made up by the team.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I recall somewhere in the script of the game, either at the beginning of survival mode or Wintermute that the same disaster that caused the geomagnetic disruption also caused a slight axial tilt in the earth? That would easily make for an endless winter anywhere in Canada.
Definitely West Coast if you read the description of old man's beard lichen: "A lichen found in the ancient forests of the Pacific Northwest."
The Great Bear Rainforest is a notable Canadian Pacific Coast area, east of Graham Island (north of Vancouver Island), and it has many islands, but they are very close to shore. It is remote and sparsely populated, like Great Bear Island in The Long Dark.
The game takes place in a post apocalypse setting where a sun flare took out all electronics and made both nature and animals much more fierce so it explains the colder than usual weather and in the long dark the winter never ends, supporting the post apocalypse theory more and as others said there is fire lookouts, summer camps and several farms meaning the weather on the island was better before the apocalypse.
I also love how thought out your explainations are for where it might be
Canada is so picturesque. Jealous of you Canucks. Would move there in a heartbeat.
There's a constellation in the TLD's night sky that looks very close to the Acrux, which can only be seen from southern regions. Maybe I'm mistaken, but if it is truly Acrux, that would be interesting.
I was thinking it could be somewhere near the Rocky Mountains - some remote settlements, high mountains, freezing cold. I grew up in northeastern British Columbia, and temperatures could get down to -20 and even -50 on a rare occasion.
Another sign that the game is on the west coast is that the gas station is called "Orca," which is a West Coast symbol. :)
Invasive coho salmon exist in the great lakes and, if this games takes place in the nearest future, they could've spread to the Atlantic coast
The fish is a dead giveaway in-game but, as a geographically challenged individual, I appreciate the video :P
Well done, I've often wondered about this. Thanks for your take on it.
I buy the idea that Vancouver island inspires the look. However, I think the character of the people and the economy more closely matches Newfoundland. Newfoundland is famous for its culture of independence, and the fact that it’s economy has already been destroyed by the destruction of the fisheries industry by international industrial fishing fleets. Tthere are abandoned settlements all over Newfoundland. So Great Bear may be a mix of both coasts.
yeah but they definitely don't speak like newfies
More like Yukon style population.
I always felt that it was like in the middle-north part of hudson's bay since they speak of their isolation and hudsons bay is a big place. But north west coast is also possible i think. The lore talks about american fishing boats being present by great bear so maybe somewhere around alaska?
There are Orchards and Hay Fields. You don't grow Hay and orchards in below freezing. Also logs are in the Bay but the Ice is around them so it must be a sign it was a Warmer Climate at some point. One last thing not all houses have sources of Heat in them so some Cabins must have been Summer/Vacation places. Something happened to cause an "Ice Age" so to speak.
Awesome video. I’ve always wanted to know the true inspiration and location in Canada for TLD. Another clue worth noting is that the Old Mans Beard Lichen found on trees in-game say “A lichen found in the ancient forests of the Pacific Northwest”. Another thing is that I believe in the lore of the game, the Aurora messed with Mother Nature as well as the harsh climate and weather of Great Bear Island if I am not mistaken so that could be a plausible reason for the drastic temperature differences.
This is the video I've always wanted to see! THANK YOU!
I recommend the TV show "Alone" in which many seasons occurs in Vancouver Island
Not really off anything but map design, I’ve always thought it was Banks island slightly north of Vancouver island. I remember early access there being a loading screen or something that mentioned British Columbia. Still I’m glad that other people think it’s on the west coast too. Absolutely love the long dark and great video
The endless winter is a cataclysm. The place used to be suitable for agroculture.
Oh and about the location its probably in northern british columbia, since the old man's bear lichen description says that the lichen can be found on the coast of north east pacific.
If you go to the Forsaken airfeild terminal you can see posters for Coastal highway, Desolation point and Mystery lake and it is shown in them that great bear is a warm climate in the summer.
(I also really want those posters)
Edit: i should also note that the fish could've migrated to another location due to the auroras messing with wildlife behaviour.
As a resident of BC, I always picked one of the Haida-Gwaii islands as being the likeliest candidate, as the game appears to take place on or near the SOUTH coast of the island it's on, and the south coast of Vancouver Island is dominated by the metropolitan city of Victoria, BC, and Victoria has the warmest weather and least amount of snow in all of Canada, and is the site of the Provincial Capital of BC, again, Victoria, which has a population last I heard, of over 350,000 people. Nowhere, on the south coast regions of the map, have we encountered this city or anything even remotely close to it.
The Haida-Gwaii Islands (formerly known as the Queen Charlotte Islands) is a small archipelago of islands, including some large enough to represent Great Bear Island, along the northern coast of BC, near the Alaskan Panhandle. Given the scenario of TLD, it's very plausible, if the Quiet Apocalypse is turning into the beginning of a major glaciation in the Pleistocene Ice Age, then those islands could very plausibly see the freezing temperatures and lack of summer that we see in The Long Dark. They were fully glaciated during the last major glaciation about 10 thousand years ago.
I'm pretty sure it's always been clear to the developers that "Great Bear Island" was a fictional island off the coast of northern B.C. The Great Bear rainforest region is a real location in B.C., and there are a LOT of islands off the coast. I think they chose not to make it a specific island like Haida Gwaii for a reason -- and one of the reasons may have been out of respect for Indigenous peoples, including (but not limited to) the Haida nation. Making it a fictional island also gives them leeway for map creation, and gives players more mystery because they won't have real world maps to rely upon.
another big hint for the west coast is the Cowichan sweater.
This is a cool thing to think about Mike. It would be pretty cool to figure where it is if it's based on a real place
nice idea, thank you!
Being a Newfoundlander I can say that we do have some very cold winters and the weather can change in a minute, there is a saying that goes...if you don't like the weather go inside for 10 minutes and check again. Growing up in the 70's and 80's was a lot different than now, we would have snow in places in June. We also have good soil for farming, but we do not have Coho Salmon and we do not have Bass in our waters, we do have Trout but mostly brown and brook also We do not have deer or wolves here, we have moose, coyote, bear, fox and Caribou.
That's funny, I always assumed it was based on Vancouver Island but never consciously thought about why I thought that until now.
Absolutely love this video! I’ve often found myself trying to place the game’s setting as well, and I came to about the same conclusion. I live in British Columbia on the west coast, and I also tried using the animals to inform my guess. The salmon, black bears, wolves, deer (which look a lot like elk), rainbow trout and so on all made me think of Vancouver island, especially since there are no grizzly bears in the game, which are notably absent from the island. The smallmouth bass in the game, which are native to eastern Canada, also supported this actually, because they are an introduced species over much of the island’s south! But there were a few though that didn’t quite fit, like how moose and whitefish are not present on the island, and same with the new burbot and goldeye. Another potential region I thought about was the great lakes, like lake Superior, as it is big enough to have large islands, and also has many of the same animals. Black bears, wolves and elk are all present, and even rainbow trout and coho salmon are introduced to the lake. If Great Bear were a fictional island on lake Superior, the moose, burbot and whitefish would all make sense then as well. Then again, they did also add red Irish lord and rockfish, which are only found on the west coast here, so I’d say they’re drawing inspiration from both regions, and probably not as focused on placing the map in a real location as I am lol. When I looked, some plants like cedar trees and wild roses are found in both regions as well. Anyways, it’s always neat to see other people having fun and sharing their curiosity and enthusiasm for the game!
Bro was missing his college during the summer and made this w in depth essay
The problem I have is that great bear island feels tiny. It doesn’t seem like if it was an irl island it would be any larger than Narau. On great bear island, there is only 1 town, a village, some trailers, some mines, a cannery, a tiny airport, a railroad system, and some other thing in desolation point. There really isn’t much. Vancouver has big cities.
Im happy to see an active fanbase for this game still today
следует упомянуть тот факт, что зима в TLD началась намного раньше положенного и это мы узнаём из начала 1 главы в режиме wintrmut, что указывает на то, что с температурой что-то случилось и явно в худшею сторону.
My opinion it's a bit north of Vancouver because from coastal highway you can see the main land
Great Bear is nothing less than a star constellation which is originally called Ursa Major and I remember that it can be seen only in the northern hemisphere (correct me if I'm wrong).
So I think of this naming as a coincidence.
this guy forgets that the island isn’t normally as cold as in game but is cold due to a natural disaster
You deserved a Sub :DD
a great breakdown Mike, but we all know The Long Dark takes place in the individual's heart
What if the real long dark was the friends we made along the way
Interesting! Thx! 👍
And speaking of apocalypses, The game Does take place after a Major Geomagnetic storm or a series of them.
Great bear in summer must be beautiful
I thought they were pretty open about the location? The studio is in British columbia and the devs have said numerous times that the game takes place there
I always thought it was in the northwest territories...the no-trees part really threw that idea in the trash XD. Although we have even more proof of your claim too - the cowichan sweater, said in game to be designed by the First Nations people of BC. Looking it up, the Cowichan people even live on Vancouver island and knit them themselves, so there's no calling any normal sweater a cowichan unless it's actually from them.
Though, isn't great bear supposed to be remote? Like the only way you're getting there is by boat or plane, right? I'd like to think Vancouver is pretty well connected but I haven't been yet. Probably a fictional island further north.
Also it seems like in the canadian archipelago the sun can stay up for more than an entire day and that never happens in tLD
I would go back to this game if it had seasons. Where you could plant crops etc.
Video title.. Alaska/North Canada. Nowhere else on earth.. that is still inhabited.. can be that hellish.
Vancouver Island never snows and when it does the roads are shut down
Idk but based on personal experience I'm thinking north British Columbia
you should look into the canadian railways
They literally say it in game: Northern Canadian Wilderness
hey i am from Van Isl lol so lets narrow it down a bit more i would say it is one of the inlets on northern part of the island like Gold river Zeballious Tahsis BUT it does not get that cold minus 10 c is rare sure we have had some cold spells but cool vid and subbed
Wasn’t the weather getting bad on the mainland too?
Huh, I’m playing a game that takes place where I live. That’s cool for once! 🇨🇦
Thank you, well done and interesting analysis :) I was actually wondering myself how close the game comes to the real places.
i always figured it was in the bay north of ontario/manitoba or north west of BC where i live
One of the thing that need to be acknowledged is that there is sign in french in the game. And a prisoner with an accent from quebec in wintermute. Witch could point out that the game is much closer to quebec and so more on the antlatic side.
The game definitely does not take place on the East Coast. Remember, in the Wintermute we had frequent earthquakes going on, which they do not really happen on the other side anywhere near that often. Also one of the gatherable resources (old man's beard lichen) in the game clearly indicates the events take place in the PNW.
@@muratgun6469I agree it's in BC but Old mans beard grows on the east coast too, particularly the maritimes. Did a road trip and saw it for the first time in NB. As for the frenchman in wintermute, he's a max security prisoner, they could've transferred him from anywhere. And french signage should be on every federal building regardless of which province thanks to Quebec.
Most signs in federal buildings are written in both english and french, as we have two official languages
we not gonna talk about negative 120 c in bleak inlet ?
There is one place in real life that is exactly like the long dark, it is called the Yukon, it's close to Canada, anyway in the Yukon average temperatures are 50 below 0 negative Fahrenheit, it's snowy and cold 247 but during summertime, the temperatures are usually between 0 and 10 degrees Fahrenheit the highest on average being a solid 18-23 during the warmest summer days but the wind is also horrible in the area
Just FYI, The Yukon is in Canada, and your temperature ranges are way off. Whitehorse (largest city in The Yukon) is forecast to hit 27C next week (80F) and stay there for a couple weeks.
i swear there is a line in the game that says if they take a road south he will hit ottawa.
I guess people don't know how to read. It's stated in game that the island is off the coast of Canada on the Pacific ocean which narrows it down to Northern BC. The island is supposed to be based off either Haida Gwaii or Prince of Wales, Alaska.
I'm thinking vancouver island. Fits with everything we know
@@Glaed8455 Vancouver Island is too far south
Around the Great Lakes Canada side
NOWHERE BECAUSE THERE ARE NO ACORN TREE BEARING SPECIES IN NORTHERN CANADA.
YES IM INCREDIBLY INFURIATED ABOUT THIS
True, but Quercus garryana, Garry Oak, are found all over southern Vancouver Island. No need to yell.
Fictional island with Yukon vibes and BC west coast influence.
Really cool video
Very well done.
You can safely dismiss the West Coast and the North. Great Bear Island is near the East Coast because Timberwolves only exist in Eastern Canada
Timberwolves could be invasive species in TLD universe. Looking at the elevation maps, I highly doubt the game takes place in the East Coast. The island (and the surrounding lands) are very mountainous and the region has frequent earthquakes. So, not East Coast, but most likely the Pacific Northwest.
Seems You didn't take in to consideration the developer may have enhance the weather patterns and temp to fit the game...
I always assumed that Great Bear Island was a reference to Great Bear Lake. You must be the only person I've seen who's mentioned it.
Great bear had a coal mining industry, was inhabited and had a prison. Vancouver island has all of those.
The air temperature in the interior caves will also tell you the average air temperature of the island year round. (Which we know to be above freezing)
This game is definitely not on vancouver island, as a resident of van isle, we are not even close to being as remote as the long dark is. Victoria our provicial capital is a huge city, and all along the coast of the island are more cities such as duncan, nanaimo, parksville, qualicum, courtenay, campbell river and others,
sidenote, there are no moose on vancouver island
"Canada? Francis, we're in Pennsylvania!"
"OH my God I hate Canada so much!"
Francis and Louis - L4D
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Another detail to note is that British Columbia has the greatest population of moose in any of the Canadian territories, and moose and present in the game, although maybe not very common
Although BC has lots of moose the biggest density is in NL. This game is definitely inspired by the West coast due to some of the wildlife and terrain. It’s not a specific real place, it’s fictional. Nice to see a game inspired by Canada with ketchup chips, maple syrup and wildlife. The details are such that even the national park signs(like the office at mystery lake have both French and English like all federal locations.
from the animals ive assumed its west coast i live in alberta myself west coat has the bears ive seen minus 55 c in the plains here no problem
the animsla cant really be sued for this we dont even have those red deer looking deer in canada
You realy love this Game, that you looking for the Region in Kanada. I am exited.
Stay alive🎉.
The world of the long dark was created by a strange psychic phenomenon that caused the average American's idea of what Canada is like to be made manifest🤣
in the long dark temperature is made up higher cuz of kataclisma, u dont need to compare them in game and real life.
it has canadian flags in it so im guessing canada
"Often called Nor'easters in the US" outed yourself as a New Englander if you hadn't done it later!
Born and raised! 🌲
I thought nova Scotia initially
im from Quebec Canada we speak french and english and all the signs are in 2 languages
so i like to think its in Quebec
Was expecting a three-second-long video just saying “Canada” and being done with it
I honestly don’t see much of Vancouver island in great bear at all. The long dark always reminds me of western Alberta in winter time, if you made Alberta’s mountains and foothills into an island (save for the coast) that would be very similar to great bear island in both climate, terrain and the kinds of animals you find on great bear. The forest is far too dense and the climate is far far to temperate on Vancouver island. they also don’t have the right wildlife for it to be much like Vancouver island at all
I believe the developers said that it takes place in Yukon
... in... space?...
There's only one region of The Long Dark I want to see represented in real life; at least find out if such an environment exists within the inspired landscape. Where would I find Forlorn Muskeg? Does Vancouver Island have it?
That is a good question. I'm sure some parts may resemble that region, but the region definitely look more tundra, like something you'd find in far northern Canada.
A muskeg is like a swamp, theres a lot of videos of people swimming in one fun as hell
the developers are based in British Columbia...
how do you know the game is set to be col all year round? maybe they designed the game thinking people would only play for 30-90 days so they set it permanently to be in the winter.. they may have assumed by that time either you would die or you will have done everything and quit. due to developer limitations of money and game mechanics they might find its easier just to not add seasons.. fallout 4 doesnt have seasons.. its permanently one season... i believe this isnt because of the apocalypse setting its in but because they didnt want to add it or couldnt. its the same in 7 days to die. its set as biomes.. desert, forest, snow, wasteland.. it stays the same no matter how long you play. so based on this, i feel you are wrong that this game is set in a place that is permanently winter, it just so happens that it is permanently winter because they couldnt be bothered to add seasons to the game... i feel like im repeating myself - sorry im not good at being concise
Clearly west coast with trees, mountains, bears, whaling, environmental terrorists, ect. Lol
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