Panic! whats happening to the channel, 4 years suffering as a tennis dad, then i find your video on The Model !!!! Had just started diving deep into it and its gone 😢 I really cant explain how much i need that video back my daughters tennis career depends on it and my sanity it realy did seem to have all the answers 🙏
17:12 8 arm lengths would just be wasting string. On a 98-100 16x19, I pulled 3.25 arm lengths (mains) + 3 arm lengths (crosses). For a 18x20, just increase it to 3.5 and 3.25.
Depends also on how long your arms are. I pull 6 wingspands for 105". everyone has to figure out themselves the exact length by inch/cm and then from there figure out what that translates to in their own armlenght/wingspand
With the crank machines you will need to pull tension 2 x times at every grommet... or you will loose straight away 5-10 % of the tension you set the crank to. This is because the crank is not constant pull and locks out when it reaches set tension. And it does not work by upping the tension on the crank with 5-10 %. The tension on the string is not quite set yet before the crank lock out the first time due to the strings composition. So 2 x crank per hole or you will not get enough tension consistency or match a constant pull machine which can be either a Dropweight or Constant Electronic pull.
To get around this you can buy an electric load measure that gives you the actual measurement. The locking that occurs after the tension is met holds the string in place. As long as the string is held in place there is no significant tension loss that wouldn't otherwise occur with any machine - even electric. Otherwise clamping the string with the normal clamps would be absolutely useless. I've compared racquets strung by an electric machine to those strung by crank. You can literally get the same result. The only thing you need to tune is the actual tension setting and use an electric load messure.
@@geniustennisacademy5182 I use a cheap electronic hang weight scale from china... that is used normally for airport bagage... to "tune" my dropweight to see if its stretching string to the correct tension it says on the long sticker placed on the wieght support on the machine.
@@geniustennisacademy5182 Im sure you can make the crank actually overstretch the string a bit, in order to compensate for the internal string drawback that it cant runningly accomodate for like a dropweight and electronic constant pull can. You will propably have to tune the crank everytime you change gauge and type of string too.
Interesting video. A few things that didn't seem quite right to me - 1. It is generally accepted that crosses should be strung from top to bottom rather than bottom to top to reduce the stress on the frame. 2. Doing 5 mains on one side to start is too many. That's putting too much uneven stress on the frame. Better to do maybe 2 on one side then 4 on the other side and so on so you never get more than 2 ahead on either side. 3. When doing the knots it is better to hold onto the starting clamp with pressure on it and release the fixed clamp. Then relax the starting clamp and cut the tag.
To addrsss your points: 1. If you're doing ny one piece method, whether the crosses starts from the top entirely depends on whether or not the mains configuration forces you to start from the top or the bottom and the string pattern of the racquet. For example, if you're doing a traditional one piece method on a 16x19 racquet where the first two mains start from bottom to top, once the mains are done, you will have to go across the bottom cross to begin stringing the crosses. The ATW method of one piece allows you to bypass this limitation. If you're doing two piece and you have the option of starting the crosses from the top, then yes it's best to do this, because then the bottom cross will be loose, which is better than the opposite, given that players often make contact at the top of the head. 2. In reality there is no such thing as obectively "too many" mains on one side as long as the racquet doesn't warp. The argument here is that the frame needs to be "balanced". Some people say 4, other people say 6, I know some pros who play everyday who string the mains of their racquet completely from one edge to the racquet and don't even start from the middle. Not that I would do that, but 5 is perfectly fine, and allows you to only have to switch sides twice instead of more times which would take up more time. 3. It is better to pull the knot, cut it, then release the clamp because by cutting the end of the knot short it's forced to become more snug versus releasing the clamp earlier where there's more string with slack on it
I dont have the Tourna, I have the Premium Stringer 3600. It has the exact same 6 point frame and rail and clampholders same...but I miss having automatic release on the clampholders. Do you? Do you know if it is possible to get automatic clampholders that release the clampholders when the clamps "hops back in"? to that Crank Tourna you have? If then I can use it for my Premium Stringer 3600
You are perpetuating a myth. 2 point mounts in many cases are every bit as safe and secure as 6 point mounts. 6 point mounts being superior is mostly marketing, though in some cases there are some machines with 2 points that are not as safe. Another false claim. 2 pc can be used on any frame. Sometimes you have to open a grommet off, but that’s not common. Five pulls per side is too many. It’s unbalanced. Best to alternate sides. USRSA recommends no more than 2 per side. You would fail a certification test by stringing 5 mains before changing sides.
Everything you just said is wrong and just because some organization like the USRSA recommends something doesn't mean it's right. Everyone has certification tests for their own opinions which I don't care to indulge when they're wrong and my clients are getting superior results using my methods.
@@geniustennisacademy5182 Funny. Everything I said is indeed spot on…but you do you because there is room for all levels of stringers and schools of thought. I was just trying to help educate someone who is obviously passionate about stringing.
Most modern frames thick aerodynamic beam design with stiffness over 68 must be done only with 2 piece strings irrespective 16x19 or 18x20. All Yonex frames, all Babolat frames and all Head frames currently in the market must be strung 2 piece. They are all quite fragile,each brand for a different reason. Only Wilson frames( except burn series) can be strung one piece.
@@koyc8194 Well that doesnt make logic sense. 2 piece/4 knots makes more stress to frame when tying off...and making start knot. 1 piece you start with start clamp and tie off later and use the groometcorners to easy the stress. You dont warp the frame, if you have a good frame support and retightening the frame supports every 5 grommet rows. The cheap aluminium frames can only be string 1 piece. I know that most is strung and restrung with SG. but they still are strung at 23-25 kg. I think saying that the stiffer modern frames cant be string 1 piece is incorrect and maybe is caused by myth.. I have watched a few videos of topstringers string aero and alike 1 piece. Its easier and quicker to do 2 string. but necesarely better.
@@benjaminjensen111 . Modern frames are structurally weaker, 2 piece stringing involves less frame stress & actually faster. These are facts, not myths.You hv to be a stringer to understand frame stress.You should write to Head and Yonex why they void racket warranties if strung 1 piece.
@@koyc8194 I really dont agree. I string myself and am a coach and also a product technician. and I can see and feel that one string job is less taxing to the frames as it pressure mostly from outside in through the whole stringing process when using a start clamp.. The cheap frames made of aluminium can only be strung onepiece unless you alter the frame and grommets. Two piece stress the frame more from inside out and more knot tying also means more stress. Why the warrenty is void when string one piece must be for other engineering reasons like some frames no being elliptical/egg shaped
AWFUL, JUST AWFUL. PLEASE DO NOT STRING RACKETS LIKE THIS. NOT PROFESSIONAL AT ALL. GET YOUR PROFESSIONAL TRAINING FROM A PROFESSIONAL STRINGER/ORGANIZATION. USRSA, IART or GRSA.
Panic! whats happening to the channel, 4 years suffering as a tennis dad, then i find your video on The Model !!!! Had just started diving deep into it and its gone 😢
I really cant explain how much i need that video back my daughters tennis career depends on it and my sanity it realy did seem to have all the answers 🙏
I'll give you private access to it, what's your email? Or I can send it to you through any other method
Email me at geniustennis@yahoo.com I'll give you a link
No
17:12 8 arm lengths would just be wasting string. On a 98-100 16x19, I pulled 3.25 arm lengths (mains) + 3 arm lengths (crosses). For a 18x20, just increase it to 3.5 and 3.25.
Depends also on how long your arms are. I pull 6 wingspands for 105". everyone has to figure out themselves the exact length by inch/cm and then from there figure out what that translates to in their own armlenght/wingspand
With the crank machines you will need to pull tension 2 x times at every grommet... or you will loose straight away 5-10 % of the tension you set the crank to. This is because the crank is not constant pull and locks out when it reaches set tension. And it does not work by upping the tension on the crank with 5-10 %. The tension on the string is not quite set yet before the crank lock out the first time due to the strings composition. So 2 x crank per hole or you will not get enough tension consistency or match a constant pull machine which can be either a Dropweight or Constant Electronic pull.
To get around this you can buy an electric load measure that gives you the actual measurement.
The locking that occurs after the tension is met holds the string in place. As long as the string is held in place there is no significant tension loss that wouldn't otherwise occur with any machine - even electric. Otherwise clamping the string with the normal clamps would be absolutely useless.
I've compared racquets strung by an electric machine to those strung by crank. You can literally get the same result. The only thing you need to tune is the actual tension setting and use an electric load messure.
@@geniustennisacademy5182 I use a cheap electronic hang weight scale from china... that is used normally for airport bagage... to "tune" my dropweight to see if its stretching string to the correct tension it says on the long sticker placed on the wieght support on the machine.
@@geniustennisacademy5182 Im sure you can make the crank actually overstretch the string a bit, in order to compensate for the internal string drawback that it cant runningly accomodate for like a dropweight and electronic constant pull can. You will propably have to tune the crank everytime you change gauge and type of string too.
No, you don't.
@@dthorne4602
Based on?
Great in depth video, really helpful in being able to do my first string today.
Interesting video. A few things that didn't seem quite right to me - 1. It is generally accepted that crosses should be strung from top to bottom rather than bottom to top to reduce the stress on the frame. 2. Doing 5 mains on one side to start is too many. That's putting too much uneven stress on the frame. Better to do maybe 2 on one side then 4 on the other side and so on so you never get more than 2 ahead on either side. 3. When doing the knots it is better to hold onto the starting clamp with pressure on it and release the fixed clamp. Then relax the starting clamp and cut the tag.
To addrsss your points:
1.
If you're doing ny one piece method, whether the crosses starts from the top entirely depends on whether or not the mains configuration forces you to start from the top or the bottom and the string pattern of the racquet.
For example, if you're doing a traditional one piece method on a 16x19 racquet where the first two mains start from bottom to top, once the mains are done, you will have to go across the bottom cross to begin stringing the crosses. The ATW method of one piece allows you to bypass this limitation.
If you're doing two piece and you have the option of starting the crosses from the top, then yes it's best to do this, because then the bottom cross will be loose, which is better than the opposite, given that players often make contact at the top of the head.
2.
In reality there is no such thing as obectively "too many" mains on one side as long as the racquet doesn't warp. The argument here is that the frame needs to be "balanced".
Some people say 4, other people say 6, I know some pros who play everyday who string the mains of their racquet completely from one edge to the racquet and don't even start from the middle. Not that I would do that, but 5 is perfectly fine, and allows you to only have to switch sides twice instead of more times which would take up more time.
3.
It is better to pull the knot, cut it, then release the clamp because by cutting the end of the knot short it's forced to become more snug versus releasing the clamp earlier where there's more string with slack on it
Rainbow explanation really useful. Had my racket strung with natural gut hybrid last week and it came back rainbowed. Not impressed.
I dont have the Tourna, I have the Premium Stringer 3600. It has the exact same 6 point frame and rail and clampholders same...but I miss having automatic release on the clampholders. Do you? Do you know if it is possible to get automatic clampholders that release the clampholders when the clamps "hops back in"? to that Crank Tourna you have? If then I can use it for my Premium Stringer 3600
You are perpetuating a myth. 2 point mounts in many cases are every bit as safe and secure as 6 point mounts. 6 point mounts being superior is mostly marketing, though in some cases there are some machines with 2 points that are not as safe.
Another false claim. 2 pc can be used on any frame. Sometimes you have to open a grommet off, but that’s not common.
Five pulls per side is too many. It’s unbalanced. Best to alternate sides. USRSA recommends no more than 2 per side. You would fail a certification test by stringing 5 mains before changing sides.
Everything you just said is wrong and just because some organization like the USRSA recommends something doesn't mean it's right. Everyone has certification tests for their own opinions which I don't care to indulge when they're wrong and my clients are getting superior results using my methods.
@@geniustennisacademy5182 Funny. Everything I said is indeed spot on…but you do you because there is room for all levels of stringers and schools of thought. I was just trying to help educate someone who is obviously passionate about stringing.
@@geniustennisacademy5182 5 pulls before doing any on the other side is absolutely a bad practice.
You can maybe learn Parnell knot or the Pro Knot?
Unnecessary knots.
@dthorne4602
Ofcourse they are...or are they?
Most modern frames thick aerodynamic beam design with stiffness over 68 must be done only with 2 piece strings irrespective 16x19 or 18x20. All Yonex frames, all Babolat frames and all Head frames currently in the market must be strung 2 piece. They are all quite fragile,each brand for a different reason. Only Wilson frames( except burn series) can be strung one piece.
Fragile how? the string or the frame breaks easily if one piece string?
@@benjaminjensen111 frames, manufacturers like Yonex,Head themselves recommend 2 piece stringing on their frames, there is a reason for it.
@@koyc8194
Well that doesnt make logic sense.
2 piece/4 knots makes more stress to frame when tying off...and making start knot. 1 piece you start with start clamp and tie off later and use the groometcorners to easy the stress.
You dont warp the frame, if you have a good frame support and retightening the frame supports every 5 grommet rows.
The cheap aluminium frames can only be string 1 piece. I know that most is strung and restrung with SG. but they still are strung at 23-25 kg.
I think saying that the stiffer modern frames cant be string 1 piece is incorrect and maybe is caused by myth.. I have watched a few videos of topstringers string aero and alike 1 piece.
Its easier and quicker to do 2 string. but necesarely better.
@@benjaminjensen111 . Modern frames are structurally weaker, 2 piece stringing involves less frame stress & actually faster. These are facts, not myths.You hv to be a stringer to understand frame stress.You should write to Head and Yonex why they void racket warranties if strung 1 piece.
@@koyc8194 I really dont agree. I string myself and am a coach and also a product technician. and I can see and feel that one string job is less taxing to the frames as it pressure mostly from outside in through the whole stringing process when using a start clamp.. The cheap frames made of aluminium can only be strung onepiece unless you alter the frame and grommets.
Two piece stress the frame more from inside out and more knot tying also means more stress. Why the warrenty is void when string one piece must be for other engineering reasons like some frames no being elliptical/egg shaped
AWFUL, JUST AWFUL.
PLEASE DO NOT STRING RACKETS LIKE THIS. NOT PROFESSIONAL AT ALL.
GET YOUR PROFESSIONAL TRAINING FROM A PROFESSIONAL STRINGER/ORGANIZATION.
USRSA, IART or GRSA.