Very dramatic! Heartfelt! Bursting with anger and emotions. Love it! Really thankful it was made into a movie. They are not just singers. They are also lovely.
I like Ben and Anna for Love Never Dies because their voices sound more mature and passionate while Ramin and Sierra work for POTO because of their soft and innocent voices.
Being a huge POTO Phan, Ramin and Sierra will always have a special place in my heart. They played Erik and Christine in POTO so well and with so much passion and heart, it gives me chills thinking about it. But, I prefer Anna and Ben for these roles in LND because of how mature their voices are. Not that Sierra and Ramin didn't absolutely kill their version, but the intimacy in Anna's and Ben's voices sends chills down my spine!!
I think Ramin and Sierra have such a strong and classic chemistry that is very romantic (onstage) - I think no one can outperform them in Phantom of the Opera. However, Ben and Anna bring passion,sensuality, and maturity to the growth of their respective characters in Love Never Dies - and it helps that the musical was edited after criticism. They truly conveyed a love and desire that was always unyielding for many years that is about to culminate once more.
Anna and Ben. Hands down. The emotion, the musicality, the maturity, the pain. Everything. It's there. Ramin and Sierra are not short of amazing but I preferred them in POTO.
Ben and Anna definitely. Their performance in this song was heart-wrenching - full of regret, yearning and passion. And their acting....phew! It was so steamy. Ramin and Sierra in the London production were so wooden. I don't blame them, it was probably the stage direction/production. Their voices are too light for this song in my opnion. Give me Ben and Anna's voices any time. I really love Ben's voice and the emotion he brings to his singing. It's beautiful and exactly how I imagined Erik's voice to be.
The voices of Ramin and Sierra are a shy, soft and sweet beautiful combination by the way I love them! Ben and Anna convey that passion, that security and maturity, the two have different but at the same time very attractive technique, I love Ramin and Ben !! They are gorgeous plus they are ghosts splendid!
Ramin and Sierra are so perfect together that we can experience true love through their singing. However, LND, and particularly “Beneath a Moonless Sky”, is about a reunion after 10 years which demands maturity, bitterness and regret. Those are the feelings that Ben and Anna perfectly deliver.
It pleases me to say fellow Phans not choose favourites, but actually analyse the performances, the voices, and the song structure. Plus, I like how a good amount of Phans agree that R+S are best in POTO and B+A are best in LND. It makes sense, with how they all play each character. R+S play the lighter and more innocent roles, and B+A play the more mature roles.
Ben and Anna makes sense because it is 10 years later from when the Phantom and Christine met. Of course the tone should be deeper. Ramin and Sierra is perfect for the first Phantom.
Ramin and Sierra for sure. The emotion and desperation of the characters is there much more in their voices then with Ben and Anna. When Ramin and Sierra sing this song you really FEEL it.
I think they were both great. But I have always loved Ramin, because he's voice is amazing, and his emotion that he puts in his acting is just incredible.
Ben and Anna capture the romance perfectly. It wrecked me the first time I heard it. They are the perfect balance of masculinity and femininity with their voices. UGH Ben gives me chills. His voice is incredible, and Anna's technique is mind-blowing.
I think they were both wonderful but in my opinion, Ramin and Sierra played the perfect younger and naive characters of the Phantom of the Opera. Their voices were even better suited to those roles. Ben and Anna have more mature voices and they brought so much passion and intimacy to the stage in this scene, like Ramin and Sierra did in POTO. Ramin and Sierra for POTO, Ben and Anna for LND.
I like the costume and stage design in the version that Ben and Anna played in, but listening to Ben's voice you'd think he's more baritone than tenor. I love Ramin and Sierra, they are my favorite stage actors! They have indescribable chemistry and they're just absolutely amazing together. I wish I could see at least one of their shows on Broadway someday
I see Ramin and Sierra as the perfect cast for Phantom of the Opera while I see Ben and Anna as the best cast for love never dies. I see them as a more mature voice or at least for Ben. Although, Anna can Play both Phantom and Lnd.
I honestly think that Ramin and Sierra are perfect for POTO but Ben and Anna are perfect for LND because in POTO, Erik and Christine were young and in-love which I love Ramin and Sierra's version cause their voices are so light and smooth in POTO, but in LND, Erik and Christine are 10 years older thus having Ben and Anna's deeper voices a perfect sign of how they have changed in those 10 years apart, also I love Anna's performance during this song because she seems harsh towards the phantom for believing that he was dead (and I think is more realistic than acting all light and back in love right away like Sierra's performance sounded like) but in my opinion, for POTO I wouldn't watch it unless it was Ramin and Sierra's version (or unless it was the POTO movie made in the early 2000's) and for LND, I prefer watching Ben and Anna's version than Ramin and Sierra's. Besides that, these actors have very strong place in my heart when it comes to their roles of Erik and Christine. Fun fact: I actually saw the live POTO on TV with Ramin and Sierra in it for the 25th anniversary of phantom... Ramin always gonna be my first phantom
+Sandy -Chan I totally agree. Ben and Anna are much better as Erik and Christine in LND, and Ramin and Sierra are better as Erik and Christine in POTO.
Strictly speaking, my first Phantom was Steve Harley, as he sang on the first single I ever bought (yes, it was vinyl), along with Sarah Brightman. If I remember rightly, they released the single before the announcement of who would actually be the Phantom at the premier run - Michael Crawford back in those days... Absolutely agree with previous opinions, though. Ramin and Sierra deliver a wonderful Phantom and Christine, but LND needs the depth and gravitas that come with Ben and Anna's performances.
my personal preference is Sierra and Ramin for POTO, and Ben and Anna for LND. I think that S&R capture the innocence of the characters, while B&A capture the maturity as ten years have passed. just my two cents :)
Personally Ramin will always be MY phantom. No question, and I love Sierra to death. Their performance of The Phantom Of The Opera was unbelievable. But in this musical I do find that Ben is a lot stronger. I kind of want to switch it up. Putting Ben and Sierra and than Ramin and Anna together. I think it would be a new fresher perspective. Plus they would both be very strong partners together
Maddie Campbell I completely agree with you! Ben is good, but he can't remove Ramin as my Eric. That doesn't mean Ben wasn't perfect in this show, but I get annoyed most of the time by Anna. Well, when I'm watching that is. Although I suppose that's just because of her make-up. However, I still prefer Sierra. So Ben and Sierra should defenitly have done this together.
You know, I honestly do see a lot of emotion in Ben Lewis. I thought it wasn't gonna be any good or even compare to Ramin Karimloo, I was wrong. If you see the whole LND australia you can see how much he puts into it. its pretty awesome.he even goes a bit crazy during "Ten Long years of yearning" in the AU version, "Give me breath, give me life Christine" He is so desperate. I love it.
Yes! Yes! Yes! When he glares at Christine after threatening Gustave's life to blackmail her to sing, Ben looks demonic when he says,"A man as ugly as this is capable of anything." It sends chills down your spine. Yet when Ramin says those same lines, they are said so matter-of-fact that it's not convincing at all, no passion or desperation or sinister intent in the tone. Ben has a way of looking crazed in his eyes coupled with the threatening tone in his voice that is downright scary.
@@karenpinson759 Yes that part! Definitely why I much more prefer Ben as my phantom. He gives a more mature/intimidating energy to the character, which is how I've always imagined the phantom to be.
Ramin and Sierra were perfect together in POTO. However, both Ben and Anna had the more mature and slightly deeper voices needed for the characters who had aged 10 years. I truly believe Ben is a better actor. When Christine tells him he has a son, there are shock and tears in his eyes. Ben is not just emoting with his voice but with his entire body. Same with the death scene in the finale. It is heart wrenching. When a male actor can bring genuine tears in a scene, that is fine acting,
He's a better actor. He could be silly (forbidden Broadway) normal (company) or dark (phantom, theresé Raquin). He had played many types of characters. Not only leads.
I felt like the Melbourne production was rewritten and fixed so they Ben and anna were able to preform better but Ramin and Sierra had the first production so they had the trial and error. if they got out in the Melbourne production it would have been just as good. but I agree that it makes sense to have Ben and anna since they have a more mature. even though I like ramins voice more.
I feel as though ben and anna did carry the passion everyone talks about, and and ramin and sierra's voices are lighter due to their vocals. I think both are absolutely astonishing voices that carry two different versions of Erik the character. With ben Erik is mature, older, and all around different but the same guy which i believe was a goal of Webber's. But with Ramin Erik is FAMILIAR; passionate, magical, all around feeling of "some people never change." With those two analogies i'd choose Ramin's version because it sounds beautiful and chilling when i listen as if my heart is beating just as fast as their's were and are in that moment they're singing. With ben and anna it wasn't the same but it was powerful in its own right. And for the character Christine i'd say anna's version was harsher(a bit) which is better for this storyline but I think Sierra's voice is better for the role now which i didnt think back in POTO. i pick raminsierra but benanna is still amazing and inunderstand if one chooses them over the other
I think the chemistry between Sierra and Ramin is more evident...cannot quite get it how this is even possible, although l agree Ben and Anna served their roles pretty well and as the LND is 10 years after , then both sound more mature. Eventhough my heart still would have wanted to see Ramin and Sierra in that Amazing altered production!
I think that Ramin and Sierra can belt out the lyrics better... I love their chemistry... Dynamics are also very important... Sierra sounds in a spell which works very well... Ramin seems desperate yet angry he can't forget the night... The second Christine shows a lot of emotion... But Ben sounds like he is focusing more on singing than acting... They both did very well but Ramjn and Sierra are always so much more interesting to listen to...
Ben is a good actor... his looks when he sees her son, when he learns that he has a son, when she chooses him and sings and at the end when she dies... Ramin is oriental and orientals show more emotions naturally, this is why you felt his love to Christine, but Ben presented the complicated sophisticated character of phantom... maybe he would have started to show his love when she stays sometimes longer with him... Here he wants her to choose him yet he is not sure she will, and he shows it when she started to thing. He started to get more romantic after she sang, yet when she started to read Raoul's letter he got tense again, etc... A sensitive vicious phantom. Ramin is a tender phantom.
I love Ramin as the Phantom and Sierra as Christine in POTO however, Ben and Anna win hands down as the Phantom and Christine in LND. They express the anger, regret and frustration during the 10 years after POTO more than Ramin and Sierra.
I love both of them but I do agree that Ramin and sierra are great for PoTo but they still did a great job for LND but since it's 10 years later that Ben and Anna's voice are great for it
actually you can not judge Ben like that because back then Ben had not played The Phantom in The Phantom Of The Opera Ben is the only Phantom I have seen live.
I know this is an old comment but I agree. I’ve watched a few recordings of other Phantoms in LND and Ben definitely brought this role to life. His control and anguish are so powerful.
I respectfully disagree. But it’s nice to see die hard fans for both men. I’m a Ramin fan I think he played the phantom the best in both POTO and LND. In an original standpoint from the book all the way to where it is today Ramin captures how the phantom was supposed to be. Ben is to touchy. The phantom would never touch Christine unless she initiated it first. That’s why Ramins phantom always gave her space and always left inches between his hands and her. It was always her choice. Every video of Ben he initiates touching and is somewhat aggressive.
Ben has a darker richer dare I say it more "Alan Rickman" tone to his voice which is why I prefer him at Phantom. Also I think Anna's pacing matches Ben's in the phrasing better.
Ben and his brother both were classically trained coming from an operatic family. Ramin is totally self taught and has admitted he doesn't even read music, which is astounding considering the power and richness of his voice.
I prefer Ramin and Sierra's voice over Ben and Anna. I really wish Rierra can get together (perfect if they can get Hadley together too) to reprise their roles for LND. I think there are lots of fans dying to see that, especially after the twice world wide screening of 25th anniversary of POTO. I for one fell in love with the trio after watching it. I didn't enjoy the Australian production of LND which was screen the week after POTO, but I can't help rewatching the London one even though it's just grainy recording on UA-cam
To be honest I prefer Anna and Ben to Ramon and Sierra and I have a few reasons 1 Ben and Anna have perfect chemistry and seem to be in actual love 2 with the great vocal difference Ben seems to fill the vocal part of the phantom better and Anna does the same for Christine 3 they also have more matured voices which is better because if you think about it the phantom is in his 40's and Christine almost 30 which would have complete vocal maturity which Ramin and Sierra do not have
I'm sitting here getting chills and thinking that I need to watch this again, wow. I don't think that I'm going to be able to choose on this one either; for the same reason they both bring something different to this song. They both sound wonderful and I still hope to one day go and see this live.
I perfer Ben as the phantom, as I feel that you can see and hear the emotions in his voice. But I love both their voices and think that Ramin rocked as the phantom in the 25 anniversary production of The Phantom of the Opera
Me too, this gives me chills all the time. Is it any wonder they are so good, I don't see why a lot of people complain. I love this so much. If they only did one here in Mexico and translated it to spanish would make me so happy, at least see what they come up with.
Me encanta el Fantasma de la Opera con sus protagonistas, e igualmente Love Never Dies con Ben y Ana. Dicen que son malos actores pero las emociones estan en sus ojos, su voz, sus ademanes y aun en ese contenerse o al mostrar ampliamente sus sentimientos. De principio a fin se puede leer en los ojos de ambos lo que sus almas sienten entendiendo e interpretando bien sus respectivos roles, dando asi mucha vida a los personajes que representan. La musica, la letra, la actuacion, lo hacen magico.
I think Sierra and Ramin's voices would sound a lot more mature and perfect for this role now because at this point it is about 10 years since LND first came out.
I was just wondering if they would want to revisit it due to them being 10 years older, just like their characters, or if they'd rather put it behind them due to its contentious nature.
oh my god, why did you have to do this to me? I saw Ramin first, and made a connection with him first so of course I want to say him and sierra, but the emotion in ben, and anna's voices was sooo great. She really sounded mad at him in this song, and Ben is just so deliciously dark in all his songs. Don't get me wrong Ramin will always be my number one, but I have to go with Ben, sorry he just did it better.
I love Ben and Anna! I think they can express all the love Christine and Erik had for each other. I feel that Anna is more passioned than Sierra. And I think Ben is better than Ramin because he shows, as Erik, that he has changed over these 10 years, when Ramin only shows that he's the same old "Phantom". When Ben sings "Devil Take the hindmost" , we see the roles changing. Raoul is the one who Christine rejects and Erik is the one that she loves. Both Anna and Ben are very passioned all the time!
Just because Ben and Anna have more deep voice it doesnt mean they are more fit for LND. ALW hand wrote the score of LND to perfectly fit Ramins and Sierras vocals. So he could have chosen for them to go deeper or higher. Also Ramin and Sierra have that once in a lifetime chemistry that no other Phantom and Christinr have. Especially Ben and Anna. Ramin and Sierra have such a strong, palpable chemistry with each other and that really comes through when you hear them sing together. They show the pure raw emotions , anger, frustration, sexual tension, love. They have such an intense chemitry and grasp on their characters that they go in a totally different place . You can feel they embody their characters and transmit full emotions everytime. Anna and Ben have more deep and operatic voices yeah but that doesnt make them better than Ramin and Sierra. They seem to only focus on the singing and hitting the right notes rather then show casing the emotions which musical theatre is all about. Ramin and Sierra for POTO and LND anyday. I cant stand Ben or and Anna AT ALL #Sorrynotsorry
P.S also Sierra is a coloratura soprano which means that she has the right range to be an opera singer. She just has to shape the vowels differently and change a few things but she has the right tessatura and body&breath support so yeah. If Andrew wanted for her to be more operatic she would have had no problem
No. He wrote the score for strong rock tenor voices that could exude sensuality easily. While Ramin exudes the sensuality easily, his vocals were not constant. Neither the others. Except David Thaxton maybe. Not even Gardar, nor Bronson. Sierra could sing with Ben though. Maybe one day. And don't forget that he shouldn't strangle her neck when he wanted her to sing for him again. Rant finished.
@@NOONE-cd4gu There's conditions for the role Mr. Y must be strong rock tenor. Not Ramin's tenor. That's why in Australia they found Ben Lewis. In Germany they hired Gardar Thor Cortes. If he wrote specifically for his voice, he should use Ramin's tenor everywhere. Now he would say he wrote the role for Ben Lewis, lol.
@@TheMsiaddict ALW wrote the score to fit Ramins voice but obviously for other productions is gonna be changed because other actors dont have Ramins voice. They changed a lot of things in thr other productions like Christines doll he has in Til I Hear You Sing, and other blockings details. So obviously the score would change a bit too, and some lyrics as people have told me. But the fact still stands. ALW wrote the score to fit Ramins voice since Ramin could not read music and he only sang by ear ALW would make the score so it would be easier for Ramin to work on it
Maybe I haven't seen the right videos of Ramin and Sierra but I personally think (from all the videos I have seen) they're passionate when it comes to their voices, but their acting is somewhat dry. I have watched all of LND and people saying that Ben and Anna aren't passionate have not watched the right show. I do like Ramin's voice but it's really light and not regretful but loving like Ben's is. I truthfully don't see all the hype about Ramin and Sierra but hey, to each their own.
Agreed. About all of above. The hype? Lots of fairly irritating social media videos and presence. The comments on all Phantom videos are alike in their mindless idolatry. And the disrespect and insult to the artists in the video make me angry. Thanx.
Ramin is great, but I've never heard anything like Ben Lewis. He embodies the Phantom better than anyone I have ever seen. I find myself completely and utterly dazzled by his rich voice. Absolutely amazing and one that I think beats Ramin in this role. It just suits Ben better.
Agree 100%. I was going to London for the 4th time to watch the play but when i noticed Ramin was not the Phantom anymore i checked the performance of the new Phantom here and .... goodbye. Not for me anymore.
Ramin and Anna did sing LND together. It was done in Australia when Ramin went there on tour. They did LND as a concert with limited staging. There are a few audios of their concert on UA-cam. It was grand. Would loved to have seen that concert live.
Ramin is my favorite... The Ben/Anna version is weird to me, because of the wording is so different than the Ramin/Sierra. I didn't realize how different each was. I saw Ben/Anna's version first, but fell in love with Ramin/Sierra.
I honestly think Ramin and Sierra could've pulled it off if they were trained. I mean, Ben and Anna were TRAINED for this. R&S didnt work with much. Either way, they were both wondeful!
I love Ramin. In the Phantom of the opera he's amazing and his acting is breathtaking as much as his voice. So, my phantom is Ramin. BUT in Love never dies, Eric should be much older, so I think that ben is better for this part just because he has a deeper voice which suits the age the Phantom should have. That doesn't mean that I don't like Ramin performance, if this song was in the Phantom of the Opera he would have be perfect!
Ben and Anna...even tho' Ramin and Sierra are still very good, Ramin seems to me to be more concerned with his singing rather than really getting into the mood. (You must admit that Ben and Anna should have booked a hotel room on the DVD version!) A bit raunchy!
Okay this may sound rude but im not trying to make it sound rude: I really think Ramin did better than anyone else at mixing an angelic voice and emotion. You should see his live performance.
@@katesszz that's my thing with Ramin. I love watching him because the pasion and drama are there, but just listening to this song without seeing the acting, I prefer Ben and Anna.
when it comes to phantom of the opera Ramin and Sierra are the best there is, but when it comes to a time skip and romantic stuff Ben and Anna are my go to.
I prefer Ramin and Seirra in LND and POTO. I do admit Ben and Anna had stronger emotions behind the voices. But, I am not a huge fan of Ben's voice. He is a good singer but I prefer Ramin a little more. Phantom's voice, in all the times I watched the performance, the Phantom's voice was never as deep as Ben's. I think that is what got me. Ben has a natural deep voice. Phantom's voice was just a tad bit higher. Anna had the Opera tone in her voice when singing, so I give her that. All are talented and have different types of voices so it is hard to choice. Both had chemistry to the pairs. The bond and chemistry from Ramin and Seirra I could tell instantly they started singing together. I just prefer the originals. I guess that is me. To each their own.
well to be fair it has been 10 years since they last saw each other and Christine thought him dead and he wants to be with her but he cant be so with them having that wired edge it actually brings the song more alive
I love how Anna says "How dare you", her gasp and the burst of emotions was superb. Sublime.
Like Tosca when she was killing Scarpia... "Muori, muori dannato! Muori!" She's more operatic :)
Very dramatic! Heartfelt! Bursting with anger and emotions. Love it! Really thankful it was made into a movie. They are not just singers. They are also lovely.
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I like Ben and Anna for Love Never Dies because their voices sound more mature and passionate while Ramin and Sierra work for POTO because of their soft and innocent voices.
Kayla Tipton I completely agree with you!
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Ben cannot hold a candle to Ramin. Chalk and cheese
Being a huge POTO Phan, Ramin and Sierra will always have a special place in my heart. They played Erik and Christine in POTO so well and with so much passion and heart, it gives me chills thinking about it. But, I prefer Anna and Ben for these roles in LND because of how mature their voices are. Not that Sierra and Ramin didn't absolutely kill their version, but the intimacy in Anna's and Ben's voices sends chills down my spine!!
I think Ramin and Sierra have such a strong and classic chemistry that is very romantic (onstage) - I think no one can outperform them in Phantom of the Opera. However, Ben and Anna bring passion,sensuality, and maturity to the growth of their respective characters in Love Never Dies - and it helps that the musical was edited after criticism. They truly conveyed a love and desire that was always unyielding for many years that is about to culminate once more.
Anna and Ben. Hands down. The emotion, the musicality, the maturity, the pain. Everything. It's there. Ramin and Sierra are not short of amazing but I preferred them in POTO.
Ben and Anna definitely. Their performance in this song was heart-wrenching - full of regret, yearning and passion. And their acting....phew! It was so steamy. Ramin and Sierra in the London production were so wooden. I don't blame them, it was probably the stage direction/production. Their voices are too light for this song in my opnion. Give me Ben and Anna's voices any time. I really love Ben's voice and the emotion he brings to his singing. It's beautiful and exactly how I imagined Erik's voice to be.
The voices of Ramin and Sierra are a shy, soft and sweet beautiful combination by the way I love them! Ben and Anna convey that passion, that security and maturity, the two have different but at the same time very attractive technique, I love Ramin and Ben !! They are gorgeous plus they are ghosts splendid!
I love how Ramin sings Til I hear you sing, but with this song I have to give it to Lewis, such a mature sensual voice....yes I'm in love ;)
Ramin and Sierra are so perfect together that we can experience true love through their singing.
However, LND, and particularly “Beneath a Moonless Sky”, is about a reunion after 10 years which demands maturity, bitterness and regret. Those are the feelings that Ben and Anna perfectly deliver.
It pleases me to say fellow Phans not choose favourites, but actually analyse the performances, the voices, and the song structure.
Plus, I like how a good amount of Phans agree that R+S are best in POTO and B+A are best in LND. It makes sense, with how they all play each character. R+S play the lighter and more innocent roles, and B+A play the more mature roles.
I agree!!
Yes!!
I completely agree!
Ben and Anna makes sense because it is 10 years later from when the Phantom and Christine met. Of course the tone should be deeper. Ramin and Sierra is perfect for the first Phantom.
Ramin and Sierra for sure. The emotion and desperation of the characters is there much more in their voices then with Ben and Anna. When Ramin and Sierra sing this song you really FEEL it.
I think they were both great. But I have always loved Ramin, because he's voice is amazing, and his emotion that he puts in his acting is just incredible.
In this song, i like Ben and Anna's performance more. I can feel the anger, the longing, the passion and the disappoinment.
Ben and Anna capture the romance perfectly. It wrecked me the first time I heard it. They are the perfect balance of masculinity and femininity with their voices. UGH Ben gives me chills. His voice is incredible, and Anna's technique is mind-blowing.
I think they were both wonderful but in my opinion, Ramin and Sierra played the perfect younger and naive characters of the Phantom of the Opera. Their voices were even better suited to those roles. Ben and Anna have more mature voices and they brought so much passion and intimacy to the stage in this scene, like Ramin and Sierra did in POTO. Ramin and Sierra for POTO, Ben and Anna for LND.
I like the costume and stage design in the version that Ben and Anna played in, but listening to Ben's voice you'd think he's more baritone than tenor. I love Ramin and Sierra, they are my favorite stage actors! They have indescribable chemistry and they're just absolutely amazing together. I wish I could see at least one of their shows on Broadway someday
Katie Tucker
A heldentenor.
I see Ramin and Sierra as the perfect cast for Phantom of the Opera while I see Ben and Anna as the best cast for love never dies. I see them as a more mature voice or at least for Ben. Although, Anna can Play both Phantom and Lnd.
Couldn't agree more!
Tabitha Brown
Ben Lewis can sing soft too.
Crap, I absolutely adore Ramin's voice but I love how amazing Ben and Anna's acting is in this scene! D: How the heck do I choose?! Gah!!!
I honestly think that Ramin and Sierra are perfect for POTO but Ben and Anna are perfect for LND because in POTO, Erik and Christine were young and in-love which I love Ramin and Sierra's version cause their voices are so light and smooth in POTO, but in LND, Erik and Christine are 10 years older thus having Ben and Anna's deeper voices a perfect sign of how they have changed in those 10 years apart, also I love Anna's performance during this song because she seems harsh towards the phantom for believing that he was dead (and I think is more realistic than acting all light and back in love right away like Sierra's performance sounded like) but in my opinion, for POTO I wouldn't watch it unless it was Ramin and Sierra's version (or unless it was the POTO movie made in the early 2000's) and for LND, I prefer watching Ben and Anna's version than Ramin and Sierra's. Besides that, these actors have very strong place in my heart when it comes to their roles of Erik and Christine.
Fun fact: I actually saw the live POTO on TV with Ramin and Sierra in it for the 25th anniversary of phantom... Ramin always gonna be my first phantom
+Sandy -Chan I totally agree. Ben and Anna are much better as Erik and Christine in LND, and Ramin and Sierra are better as Erik and Christine in POTO.
TheSandyLyricist
Matt Cammelle was better than Ramin Karimloo. Too bad he was a standby.
I completely agree with all that!
Strictly speaking, my first Phantom was Steve Harley, as he sang on the first single I ever bought (yes, it was vinyl), along with Sarah Brightman. If I remember rightly, they released the single before the announcement of who would actually be the Phantom at the premier run - Michael Crawford back in those days...
Absolutely agree with previous opinions, though. Ramin and Sierra deliver a wonderful Phantom and Christine, but LND needs the depth and gravitas that come with Ben and Anna's performances.
my personal preference is Sierra and Ramin for POTO, and Ben and Anna for LND. I think that S&R capture the innocence of the characters, while B&A capture the maturity as ten years have passed.
just my two cents :)
also, Anna's "there is no now" gets me every time.
Personally Ramin will always be MY phantom. No question, and I love Sierra to death. Their performance of The Phantom Of The Opera was unbelievable. But in this musical I do find that Ben is a lot stronger. I kind of want to switch it up. Putting Ben and Sierra and than Ramin and Anna together. I think it would be a new fresher perspective. Plus they would both be very strong partners together
Maddie Campbell I completely agree with you! Ben is good, but he can't remove Ramin as my Eric. That doesn't mean Ben wasn't perfect in this show, but I get annoyed most of the time by Anna. Well, when I'm watching that is. Although I suppose that's just because of her make-up. However, I still prefer Sierra. So Ben and Sierra should defenitly have done this together.
Yes I would like to see and hear Ben and Sierra to gether and Ramin and Anna . .but I am a Ben and Anna Fan .
This would be very interesting to see
I'm all for Ramin Karimloo amazing voice
You know, I honestly do see a lot of emotion in Ben Lewis. I thought it wasn't gonna be any good or even compare to Ramin Karimloo, I was wrong. If you see the whole LND australia you can see how much he puts into it. its pretty awesome.he even goes a bit crazy during "Ten Long years of yearning" in the AU version, "Give me breath, give me life Christine" He is so desperate. I love it.
Yes! Yes! Yes! When he glares at Christine after threatening Gustave's life to blackmail her to sing, Ben looks demonic when he says,"A man as ugly as this is capable of anything." It sends chills down your spine. Yet when Ramin says those same lines, they are said so matter-of-fact that it's not convincing at all, no passion or desperation or sinister intent in the tone. Ben has a way of looking crazed in his eyes coupled with the threatening tone in his voice that is downright scary.
@@karenpinson759 Yes that part! Definitely why I much more prefer Ben as my phantom. He gives a more mature/intimidating energy to the character, which is how I've always imagined the phantom to be.
no contest, Ramin and Sierra!!!!!!!!!! perfection personified!!!!!!
Ben & Anna!!!!!
they r cool right!!!
Ramin Karimloo the best Phantom ever.
Ramin and Sierra were perfect together in POTO. However, both Ben and Anna had the more mature and slightly deeper voices needed for the characters who had aged 10 years. I truly believe Ben is a better actor. When Christine tells him he has a son, there are shock and tears in his eyes. Ben is not just emoting with his voice but with his entire body. Same with the death scene in the finale. It is heart wrenching. When a male actor can bring genuine tears in a scene, that is fine acting,
He's a better actor. He could be silly (forbidden Broadway) normal (company) or dark (phantom, theresé Raquin). He had played many types of characters. Not only leads.
Both are equally good. I love Ramin and Sierra, and I also love Ben and Anna, too! Can't choose which.
ramin karimloo hands down his voice is so mythical and so beautiful
I felt like the Melbourne production was rewritten and fixed so they Ben and anna were able to preform better but Ramin and Sierra had the first production so they had the trial and error. if they got out in the Melbourne production it would have been just as good. but I agree that it makes sense to have Ben and anna since they have a more mature. even though I like ramins voice more.
James Hallett
Still not improved vocally after the corrections here and there. That's why maybe the London production was closed.
There's trial in the Melbourne production as well. Ben Lewis said that the lyrics often changed till he had to write them on his mask.
Ramin, Please be my Angel of Music!!!!
I feel as though ben and anna did carry the passion everyone talks about, and and ramin and sierra's voices are lighter due to their vocals. I think both are absolutely astonishing voices that carry two different versions of Erik the character. With ben Erik is mature, older, and all around different but the same guy which i believe was a goal of Webber's. But with Ramin Erik is FAMILIAR; passionate, magical, all around feeling of "some people never change." With those two analogies i'd choose Ramin's version because it sounds beautiful and chilling when i listen as if my heart is beating just as fast as their's were and are in that moment they're singing. With ben and anna it wasn't the same but it was powerful in its own right. And for the character Christine i'd say anna's version was harsher(a bit) which is better for this storyline but I think Sierra's voice is better for the role now which i didnt think back in POTO. i pick raminsierra but benanna is still amazing and inunderstand if one chooses them over the other
+Jamilyn Avington Benanna. XD
Jamilyn Avington i totally I agree with you
I think the chemistry between Sierra and Ramin is more evident...cannot quite get it how this is even possible, although l agree Ben and Anna served their roles pretty well and as the LND is 10 years after , then both sound more mature. Eventhough my heart still would have wanted to see Ramin and Sierra in that Amazing altered production!
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Listen to this, and you know the two versions are just perfect...
I think that Ramin and Sierra can belt out the lyrics better... I love their chemistry... Dynamics are also very important... Sierra sounds in a spell which works very well... Ramin seems desperate yet angry he can't forget the night...
The second Christine shows a lot of emotion... But Ben sounds like he is focusing more on singing than acting... They both did very well but Ramjn and Sierra are always so much more interesting to listen to...
Ben is a good actor... his looks when he sees her son, when he learns that he has a son, when she chooses him and sings and at the end when she dies... Ramin is oriental and orientals show more emotions naturally, this is why you felt his love to Christine, but Ben presented the complicated sophisticated character of phantom... maybe he would have started to show his love when she stays sometimes longer with him... Here he wants her to choose him yet he is not sure she will, and he shows it when she started to thing. He started to get more romantic after she sang, yet when she started to read Raoul's letter he got tense again, etc... A sensitive vicious phantom. Ramin is a tender phantom.
I love Ramin as the Phantom and Sierra as Christine in POTO however, Ben and Anna win hands down as the Phantom and Christine in LND. They express the anger, regret and frustration during the 10 years after POTO more than Ramin and Sierra.
I love the line "that long ago night..." That one note on night I find to be so beautiful and I say that Ramin carries it better than Ben does.
I love both of them but I do agree that Ramin and sierra are great for PoTo but they still did a great job for LND but since it's 10 years later that Ben and Anna's voice are great for it
Ben was made for version of Erik(Phantom)
+Madison Medhat Yes! He is the best Erik for Love Never Dies. Ramin is much better in Phantom of the Opera.
actually you can not judge Ben like that because back then Ben had not played The Phantom in The Phantom Of The Opera Ben is the only Phantom I have seen live.
I know this is an old comment but I agree. I’ve watched a few recordings of other Phantoms in LND and Ben definitely brought this role to life. His control and anguish are so powerful.
While Ben plays the role very well, Ramin was(I think) one of the first’s to play this role and it had a lot of inspiration based off of him.
I respectfully disagree. But it’s nice to see die hard fans for both men. I’m a Ramin fan I think he played the phantom the best in both POTO and LND. In an original standpoint from the book all the way to where it is today Ramin captures how the phantom was supposed to be. Ben is to touchy. The phantom would never touch Christine unless she initiated it first. That’s why Ramins phantom always gave her space and always left inches between his hands and her. It was always her choice. Every video of Ben he initiates touching and is somewhat aggressive.
BEN AND ANNA
Ramin Karimloo obviously
Ramin and Sierra = still fell to pop tunes very often. It's a musical. Ben and Anna = solid classic sounds. It's an opera.
It's not to opera, but I agree with the first part.
@@hellofriends2649
It's done as opera. At least in Mr. Y scenes.
Ben has a darker richer dare I say it more "Alan Rickman" tone to his voice which is why I prefer him at Phantom. Also I think Anna's pacing matches Ben's in the phrasing better.
Ben and his brother both were classically trained coming from an operatic family. Ramin is totally self taught and has admitted he doesn't even read music, which is astounding considering the power and richness of his voice.
Ben and Anna
I prefer Ramin and Sierra's voice over Ben and Anna. I really wish Rierra can get together (perfect if they can get Hadley together too) to reprise their roles for LND. I think there are lots of fans dying to see that, especially after the twice world wide screening of 25th anniversary of POTO. I for one fell in love with the trio after watching it. I didn't enjoy the Australian production of LND which was screen the week after POTO, but I can't help rewatching the London one even though it's just grainy recording on UA-cam
To be honest I prefer Anna and Ben to Ramon and Sierra and I have a few reasons 1 Ben and Anna have perfect chemistry and seem to be in actual love 2 with the great vocal difference Ben seems to fill the vocal part of the phantom better and Anna does the same for Christine 3 they also have more matured voices which is better because if you think about it the phantom is in his 40's and Christine almost 30 which would have complete vocal maturity which Ramin and Sierra do not have
I just love that line they sing in the song "A woman and a Man, No more and yet no less.."
Ben Lewis and Gerard Butler for ever! My first Phantoms in POTO and LND. I just love their voice and acting. And Anna, I think she was wonderful!
AGREEEEEEEE
BEN AND GERARD, ANNA AND EMMY😭
Ben and Anna!
I'm sitting here getting chills and thinking that I need to watch this again, wow. I don't think that I'm going to be able to choose on this one either; for the same reason they both bring something different to this song. They both sound wonderful and I still hope to one day go and see this live.
I perfer Ben as the phantom, as I feel that you can see and hear the emotions in his voice. But I love both their voices and think that Ramin rocked as the phantom in the 25 anniversary production of The Phantom of the Opera
A... a choice? You want me to make a choice? I... I can't!!!! They'er both so well done, so passionate!
Ben Lewis is my vote
I think both are great but Ben Lewis voice gives me chills in this just like Anna
Anna and Ben always. Individually and together.
ben and anna forever!
Me too, this gives me chills all the time. Is it any wonder they are so good, I don't see why a lot of people complain. I love this so much. If they only did one here in Mexico and translated it to spanish would make me so happy, at least see what they come up with.
Ben and Anna, definitely.
Ramin and Sierra, they are my favorite phantom and Christine in both POTO and LND
Me encanta el Fantasma de la Opera con sus protagonistas, e igualmente Love Never Dies con Ben y Ana. Dicen que son malos actores pero las emociones estan en sus ojos, su voz, sus ademanes y aun en ese contenerse o al mostrar ampliamente sus sentimientos. De principio a fin se puede leer en los ojos de ambos lo que sus almas sienten entendiendo e interpretando bien sus respectivos roles, dando asi mucha vida a los personajes que representan. La musica, la letra, la actuacion, lo hacen magico.
I think Sierra and Ramin's voices would sound a lot more mature and perfect for this role now because at this point it is about 10 years since LND first came out.
I was just wondering if they would want to revisit it due to them being 10 years older, just like their characters, or if they'd rather put it behind them due to its contentious nature.
Definitely Ben Lewis!
Ben Lewis definatly grew on me after a while.
Ramin has my vote
I love ramins voice it goes right in the hart.
oh my god, why did you have to do this to me? I saw Ramin first, and made a connection with him first so of course I want to say him and sierra, but the emotion in ben, and anna's voices was sooo great. She really sounded mad at him in this song, and Ben is just so deliciously dark in all his songs. Don't get me wrong Ramin will always be my number one, but I have to go with Ben, sorry he just did it better.
I feel like Ben's voice flows better and is more deep and rich and passionate.
I love Ben and Anna! I think they can express all the love Christine and Erik had for each other. I feel that Anna is more passioned than Sierra. And I think Ben is better than Ramin because he shows, as Erik, that he has changed over these 10 years, when Ramin only shows that he's the same old "Phantom". When Ben sings "Devil Take the hindmost" , we see the roles changing. Raoul is the one who Christine rejects and Erik is the one that she loves. Both Anna and Ben are very passioned all the time!
Too bad he strangled Christine when he wanted her to sing again.
loved em both !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Just because Ben and Anna have more deep voice it doesnt mean they are more fit for LND. ALW hand wrote the score of LND to perfectly fit Ramins and Sierras vocals. So he could have chosen for them to go deeper or higher. Also Ramin and Sierra have that once in a lifetime chemistry that no other Phantom and Christinr have. Especially Ben and Anna. Ramin and Sierra have such a strong, palpable chemistry with each other and that really comes through when you hear them sing together. They show the pure raw emotions , anger, frustration, sexual tension, love. They have such an intense chemitry and grasp on their characters that they go in a totally different place . You can feel they embody their characters and transmit full emotions everytime. Anna and Ben have more deep and operatic voices yeah but that doesnt make them better than Ramin and Sierra. They seem to only focus on the singing and hitting the right notes rather then show casing the emotions which musical theatre is all about.
Ramin and Sierra for POTO and LND anyday. I cant stand Ben or and Anna AT ALL
#Sorrynotsorry
P.S also Sierra is a coloratura soprano which means that she has the right range to be an opera singer. She just has to shape the vowels differently and change a few things but she has the right tessatura and body&breath support so yeah. If Andrew wanted for her to be more operatic she would have had no problem
No. He wrote the score for strong rock tenor voices that could exude sensuality easily. While Ramin exudes the sensuality easily, his vocals were not constant. Neither the others. Except David Thaxton maybe. Not even Gardar, nor Bronson. Sierra could sing with Ben though. Maybe one day. And don't forget that he shouldn't strangle her neck when he wanted her to sing for him again. Rant finished.
@@TheMsiaddict ALW has said himself that he handwrote the score to fit Ramins voice because he wanted him to originate the role
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There's conditions for the role Mr. Y must be strong rock tenor. Not Ramin's tenor. That's why in Australia they found Ben Lewis. In Germany they hired Gardar Thor Cortes. If he wrote specifically for his voice, he should use Ramin's tenor everywhere.
Now he would say he wrote the role for Ben Lewis, lol.
@@TheMsiaddict ALW wrote the score to fit Ramins voice but obviously for other productions is gonna be changed because other actors dont have Ramins voice. They changed a lot of things in thr other productions like Christines doll he has in Til I Hear You Sing, and other blockings details. So obviously the score would change a bit too, and some lyrics as people have told me. But the fact still stands. ALW wrote the score to fit Ramins voice since Ramin could not read music and he only sang by ear ALW would make the score so it would be easier for Ramin to work on it
Maybe I haven't seen the right videos of Ramin and Sierra but I personally think (from all the videos I have seen) they're passionate when it comes to their voices, but their acting is somewhat dry. I have watched all of LND and people saying that Ben and Anna aren't passionate have not watched the right show. I do like Ramin's voice but it's really light and not regretful but loving like Ben's is. I truthfully don't see all the hype about Ramin and Sierra but hey, to each their own.
Nic Thorpe same!!! They’re lowest on my list in regards to both acting and singing styles....
Agreed. About all of above.
The hype? Lots of fairly irritating social media videos and presence.
The comments on all Phantom videos are alike in their mindless idolatry. And the disrespect and insult to the artists in the video make me angry.
Thanx.
This music gets me pumped
Ramin is great, but I've never heard anything like Ben Lewis. He embodies the Phantom better than anyone I have ever seen. I find myself completely and utterly dazzled by his rich voice. Absolutely amazing and one that I think beats Ramin in this role. It just suits Ben better.
Love anna and ben's voice. But both of the singers are talented in each scenes! So i say i choose both of the singing pairs.
Love them both! No way to choose!
I like Ben and Anna's version. Mostly because i have the DVD. I have yet seen it on stage.
Ben again and again!!!!!
I like Ramin than Ben but like Anna than Sierra. Wish those two would do a duet
Agree 100%. I was going to London for the 4th time to watch the play but when i noticed Ramin was not the Phantom anymore i checked the performance of the new Phantom here and .... goodbye. Not for me anymore.
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Ramin left Phantom long ago. Maybe you saw Ben Forster who was replaced by Ben Lewis later.
Ramin and Anna did sing LND together. It was done in Australia when Ramin went there on tour. They did LND as a concert with limited staging. There are a few audios of their concert on UA-cam. It was grand. Would loved to have seen that concert live.
Ramin and Sierra!
I must say I think Ramin is a good phantom butttt I do not think he was the best. I love Ben Lewis and Gerard butler as the phantom more.
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i prefer Ben, his voice is really good , Ramin sings awesome too but i thinks its a bit light xD in my head Phantom/Eric sounds a bit more like Ben :D
Ramin is my favorite... The Ben/Anna version is weird to me, because of the wording is so different than the Ramin/Sierra. I didn't realize how different each was. I saw Ben/Anna's version first, but fell in love with Ramin/Sierra.
I really like Ben Lewis better in this song, his voice just portrays the right amount of feeling.
Ramin for POTO and Ben for LND
I can't choose they are both really good.
I honestly think Ramin and Sierra could've pulled it off if they were trained. I mean, Ben and Anna were TRAINED for this. R&S didnt work with much. Either way, they were both wondeful!
I love Ramin. In the Phantom of the opera he's amazing and his acting is breathtaking as much as his voice. So, my phantom is Ramin. BUT in Love never dies, Eric should be much older, so I think that ben is better for this part just because he has a deeper voice which suits the age the Phantom should have. That doesn't mean that I don't like Ramin performance, if this song was in the Phantom of the Opera he would have be perfect!
Ben and Anna...even tho' Ramin and Sierra are still very good, Ramin seems to me to be more concerned with his singing rather than really getting into the mood. (You must admit that Ben and Anna should have booked a hotel room on the DVD version!) A bit raunchy!
***Unexceptable!
That's the point, anyway. The Phantom's loneliness without his Christine.
Okay this may sound rude but im not trying to make it sound rude:
I really think Ramin did better than anyone else at mixing an angelic voice and emotion. You should see his live performance.
Kooteh yea I agree with you
@@katesszz that's my thing with Ramin. I love watching him because the pasion and drama are there, but just listening to this song without seeing the acting, I prefer Ben and Anna.
when it comes to phantom of the opera Ramin and Sierra are the best there is, but when it comes to a time skip and romantic stuff Ben and Anna are my go to.
I prefer Ramin and Seirra in LND and POTO. I do admit Ben and Anna had stronger emotions behind the voices. But, I am not a huge fan of Ben's voice. He is a good singer but I prefer Ramin a little more. Phantom's voice, in all the times I watched the performance, the Phantom's voice was never as deep as Ben's. I think that is what got me. Ben has a natural deep voice. Phantom's voice was just a tad bit higher. Anna had the Opera tone in her voice when singing, so I give her that. All are talented and have different types of voices so it is hard to choice. Both had chemistry to the pairs. The bond and chemistry from Ramin and Seirra I could tell instantly they started singing together. I just prefer the originals. I guess that is me. To each their own.
Melstrife
Jonathan Roxmouth has a deep voice.
Ramin and sierra.*-*
I love them*-*
well..
I thank he is great singer beacuse
his voice is very sweet and soft and lt dosen't like 80 years old!!!
I like Ramin is voice and acting
Ramin FTW
Opera: making copulation sound sophisticated since the 16th century.
no contest.. Ramin is the best.
Ramin is best!
well to be fair it has been 10 years since they last saw each other and Christine thought him dead and he wants to be with her but he cant be so with them having that wired edge it actually brings the song more alive
In this particular song Ben Lewis suits Erik more.
If Ramin and Anna were to do it, I feel like it'd be perfection.