CARNIVAL CRUISE LINE HAS A BIG PROBLEM
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- CARNIVAL CRUISE LINE HAS A BIG PROBLEM.
Carnival cruise Line is trying had to change it's image from the cheap cruise line to the fun cruise line. However when brawls break out on a Carnival ship it erases all the good the cruise line has done and paints a picture of rowdy drunk passengers. They need to be more proactive on their ships with perhaps more security in places like bars at night and pool decks during the day so they can stop things before they get out of hand. Until then these brawls will keep happening and the talk starts all over again on them being the cheap cruise oine.
It's not that these folks don't know how to behave on a cruise ship......they don't know how to behave anywhere.....
You have a very valid point there
Low class people geto
You aren't wrong!!
Exactly, it's not like we aren't seeing bad behavior every where these days. People need to stop picking on Carnival when we see this type of stuff in restaurants, retail stores, and the streets..
EXACTLY!
Anyone who starts throwing chairs have a behavioral issue before getting on ship. Unfortunately society has allowed these people to get away with this in daily lives also.
Things I agree with: Carnival definitely needs more visible security.
Things I disagree with: people are choosing bad behavior everywhere. Not just on (carnival) cruises but at resorts, airplanes, theme parks, malls, churches, EVERYWHERE. Decorum and thinking before you act is a rare thing now.
Especially young people partying hard. I certainly have seen similar brawls in the nightlife in the Netherlands, UK and Thailand.
Yesss . I agree.. this behavior is EVERYWHERE.. and it is so sad.. I’m on the Mardi Gras Aug 11th..in a month.. I hope this foolish ish is not on my sailing…
I’ve noticed it everywhere as well. The airlines are also battling this
I was on a carnival Cruise recently and saw lots of security.
They could start with limiting drinks and these packages to get drunk.
Raise the fines, ban across the brand, and refer to the authorities. Then, publicize the heck out the consequences!
Ban across ALL lines
I think it's time to make a no travel list for unruly people, like they have a no fly list now.. People that act like that shouldn't be in public.
I agree with that. Raise the fines so it matters. $500 is not much money
folks who do that kind of thing are proud of it! they are looking to become viral.
@@lesw3803 Probably true, maybe that's why there's always a camera rolling to film these things.
They need to take a page from the Florida Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd and punish rule breakers publicly.
I have sailed mostly on Carnival. I have never seen anything like this (thank goodness).
These are the same people that fight in the aisles of Walmart in their pajamas
One reason we never book short 3-4 day cruises 🙄
Absolutely!And not during the Summer or Spring break!
I agree.... will never do another short (booze cruise).
or carnival!
Yep totally cheap short cruises, raise the price, fine and ban
We have booked Carnival 13 times but they are 7-11 days long. Never seen or heard of any issues on board.
These are short booze cruise 🚢 trips.
Fine them bigger! Make the arrests longer and place it on their permanent records.
Definitely agree with more security and more cameras.
You can ban them but you will continue to get stupid argumentative people.
Look at the airlines - they also have had an increase in argumentative behavior and people banned from flights.
It is everywhere
Don't book Carnival 3, 4 or 5 day cruises unless you want to witness this sort of behaviour!
I have seen that behavior on 7 day Carnival cruises also.
Can’t book cheap ships
You’re so right. I had no issues on carnival until I took a five day cruise. Had a group of guys mocking my appearance and antagonizing me to fight. We’re adults on vacation, yet it was like I was in high school. And I’m still marveling at the fact that the whole boat smelled like weed. Never again.
@@mariodopico5581and 11 day cruise I was on, so...
Same issue with the weed on the Carnival Conquest.@@Lifendz
More security means they are going to make it into a floating prison ship. The only viable solution here is to remove offenders from the ship at the nearest U.S. port of call, ban them from the cruise line in perpetuity and fine them for contravening the safety of crew and other passengers. All three. Period.
I don't know what security is like on Carnival as I've never sailed with them. However, in my several cruises on NCL I don't recall a day going by where I didn't see a member of the security team somewhere on the ship, several times a day, yet the ship doesn't feel like a "prison ship". They're around, observing, all the time and there are no issues (with a notably less restrictive drink package that almost everyone gets "free").
Doesn't have to be a US port....... One might think twice if you KNOW you could be dropped off on whatever port you happen to be near and are left to your own devices to get home.
Seems as if Carnival would have a 5k penalty for disorderly conduct- 500 penalty does not hit the pocket hard enough.
Exactly I have thought the same thing. plus 500.00 probably did not pay for the damage.
They would pay the fine anyway
Most carnival clientele couldn’t come up with $5,000 to save their lives
The ships are registered in third world countries, who’s coming to collect the fines?
@@bobbytaggs2646 Good point.
People don't know how to behave anymore.
Some
Low level people with no morals
Some people. Particularly of a certain demographic
I agree. Traveled 100+ days on Carnival. I have notice a decline in the clientele over the past 5 years. Loud, skimpy clothes, kids sitting at bar, misbehaving passengers. The list goes on.
It seems like the majority of these incidents have happened on short cruises on older ships. These cruises tend to be cheap-ish and apparently attract the booze crowd that don’t behave anywhere😏 This is one of the reasons we avoid short cruises all together.
Agreed
It's not the "booze crowd." It's more like a particular, ahem, "demographic."
Who needs 15 alcohol drinks a day? Drink packages should be more limited.
Agreed. I drink a lot and even starting at noon I wouldn't be over 10. And thatd be pacing myself
Other lines place no limits on their cruises.
It's the people drinking not the booze,
thugs being thugs on Carnival
Carnival needs to start doing background checks on passengers.
Background checks are just too cumbersome. Carnival knows exactly what the problem is but makes too much money to care. A 3-4 day booze cruise geared to a lower class of passenger is always going to be an accident waiting to happen. Invite thugs on board and expect thug games.
@@garyjarvis2730 Agreed. This is the reason I never book with Carnival. In general, I see that money tends to thin out the riff raff. Yes, it is an added cost but increases your chances of having a relaxing and fun cruise experience.
My first cruise with my boys (they were young) was in 1999. I sat down at the bar to have a glass a wine. The only other 2 folks at the bar were a married couple. They got into a shouting match, they were drunk, it got ugly. I was flabbergasted. The next cruise we did on Carnival 2 years later, once again due to sitting at the wrong place at wrong time, another fight. This was a group, they were all drunk. I went on one other Carnival cruise in 2006 because I won it in a contest. Unfortunately, I was done with Carnival at that point. We have done 17 RC cruises since then and I have yet to see a fight (not sure if there was one but I was no where near it if so). I have to laugh when people asked; why does CCL limit you to 15 drinks a day. Hmmm....lets think about this....🙄They need to be charged with assault and a MINIMUM fine of $1,000. Plus banned from any future cruises.
How about a limit of THREE drinks per day? At home, even that would be excessive. But 15? Absolute MADNESS.
@@paulahansen3772 That's how they're making a lot of their money.
Overindulgence
They’re not called the “Party Boats” for nothing 😮Took a Carnival cruise once; NEVER AGAIN!!!😡 These Mega ships are part of the problem too. Just too many people with potential for these kinds of problems 🥹
Why does a party have to mean physical violence
@@donnapee8402 Good Question 🤔
@@donnapee8402 It seems that partying + alcohol + proximity tends to degenerate into violence.
Shit cruise line brings horrible people.
@@Hawkeye2001Exactly, and not just on cruises and it is hardly a new thing even if social media makes it look that way. If you try to appeal to a certain (age?) demographic and make alcohol relatively cheap than you better invest in security as Don said, because you will get more fights than normal. Don't get me wrong, a fine, and a ban for a long time is fair (I find a lifetime ban a bit harsh tbh) and to be expected. It also doesn't excuse such behavior, but nobody should be surprised about brawls and I certainly find it odd this video goes viral while a similar brawl in front of a random nightclub in Amsterdam or Malta does not.
I have cruised with Carnival 12 times. And the worse travelers seemed to be on the short cruises.. often referred to as booze cruises. Maybe get rid of those short cruises.. IDK 🤷♀️ I hate to say it but when they started doing what I call lay away cruising they brought in a bunch of people who don’t know how to act and yes they need to SERIOUSLY Revamp Security cuz it’s a joke right now and folks know it.
I agree with you 💯
We were on the sunrise the night before this fight and a fight broke out on deck 2 outside my daughter’s cabin. About 20 people involved, multiple security had to come. Same demographic involved as this fight
My brother just took a large family cruise with about 10 people total (his wife's family) and he described it at best as: "Very dark. They had dance compeitions that turned into craziness every night."
We don’t call Carnival “Walmart of the Seas” for no reason!
I stopped shopping at Walmart, too many idiots shopping there and working there!! :(
Carnival IS very much like, Walmart!!
😂
😂😂😂
Dipstick
10 years ago, we took an ultra-cheap Carnival Cruise that sailed during mid-December. I think it was maybe $114 per person for a three-day sail. NEVER. EVER. AGAIN! It was like being on a massive Greyhound bus. I'll gladly pay for the expensive cruises to avoid this type of ish.
😂. Greyhound Bus. Wow.
Carnival is making a mistake by trying to copy RCCL. Carnival does quite a few things better than most cruise lines. They should stick with them. A beautiful ship does not guarantee that the cruise line will be able to give a good cruise. Patrolling the ship is a good idea.
I wouldn’t get on a carnival cruise if they gave it to me for free. I’d prefer not to run into thugs on my vacation. Must stop.
That’s too bad. They offer very good entertainment along with good decent food options. It’s more of your loss than Carnival’s.
Your loss. I have cruised on Carnival many times (as well as 6 other cruise lines and have always had the same great time on Carnival as I’ve had on other cruise lines. If they gave me a free cruise I’d be at the port ASAP!
@@user-zz1os3hg5p I would take a free cruise too!👍😁 we tried a b2b on the Enchanted Princess in January. Neither of us enjoyed it. We had several issues on board tjst were not resolved but one was partially after we complained that there needed to be hand sanitizer stations at the pizza counter and more on the buffet. Other issues had a deaf ear turned towards them. Plus the entertainment was unfortunately 💩 so many of the older than I folks on that 20 day cruise were not happy either, quite a few of them were crying that they were not going on Princess again and were going back to Celebrity. I think a lot of our disappointment also came from how much hype some UA-cam people give the cruise line as well as my uppity sister in law’s love for Princess which is the only line they have been on. I do know there is a big difference from a short cruise to a longer cruise and also on a b2b2b we did on the Celebration, each week the crowd had a different vibe, weird we thought as it’s the same ship, the same season. Cheers🍻
Friends don't let friends cruise Carnival. In our case, in addition to the stupid cruisers (people were already passed out drunk and missed muster, which delayed the sailing), we had the rude customer service staff. And it was on Paradise in 2018.
@@timothydonlan9112 you can have these things happen in any cruise regardless of the name on the hull. I saw a lot of drinks on a 5 day RC.l cruise and I have had ignorant customermservicemdeskmoeople. On both Princess and Carnival. I also had very helpful service from the desk in Carnival.too bad you had bad experience on Carny. Carnivals entertainment is top notch and the food is very good generally but I have seen differences from one ship to the next on Carny when going on side to side cruises.
I blame the people far more than the cruise line. Consider that Carnival does limit the number of alcoholic drinks you can purchase each day with the drinks package. Also, they have openly communicated out about their fines. While they may be able to raise those fines, it is ultimately the fault of the people who go on these cruises and make bad choices.
The major problem is systemic, “they are the Walmart of cruising.” If Carnival raised their rates, actively prosecuted offenders and publicly listed banned cruisers it would be a deterrent.
Sady Don this behavior is common in certain areas of the US.
Sad to say…. Right now culture and so many people angry
Clientele on my last few carnival cruises has forced me to try NCL
you’ll never go back! Carnival is nasty
My in laws want to do a cruise, but refuse to do carnival. Thing is I had a great cruise with them 3 times.
Looking for a pattern among the different Carnival incidents. I think I found it.
lol….shhh we can’t say what the problem is. That would be RayCiST⚫️
Yes, the people involved, all flew spirit airways to get to the cruise ship.
Amish!
I have sailed on Carnival for decades. I am diamond and i have never seen a fight ever. But i have also heard of fights on other lines. But for whatever reason Carnival gets the publicity.
Amen very well said 👏
Someone has to say it. These brawls are mostly among uncultured, untraveled people of a certain demographic....
Asians?
@@michaelminnikin4265Probably the Swedish
At least someone said it
@@cliffclonethose KAREN tribes
You still didn't say it...which demographic are you speaking?
We need Carnival around to suck up all the riffraff so all us calm, polite, educated people can enjoy ourselves on RC. 😂
Lol truth!!
It can also happen on Royal Caribbean cruise lines of fights
I wouldn't say that.
@Mrcruisefever1 the majority happen on carnival.
I have seen some insane fights on RC as well. Its more the price of the particular cruise than the cruise line unfortunately. Carnival just happens to be the cheapest ships all around. I guarantee you don't see this stuff on the Icon. Because people that can afford those prices don't act like fools.
Sadly the first thing I think about Carnival is this 😬. Some people just don't know how to behave in public🤦♀️
Because they weren't raised to behave in public.
I'm a die-hard Carnival cruiser, but it didn't take long for me to learn that 3-5 day cruises are filled with rowdy people and drink package warriors. I'll take a longer cruise with an older population and less kids any day. It may seem like it's usually Carnival, but just wait for it, other lines pushing into the short cruise market will soon experience the same pitiful behaviors on board.
Living in Houston, my first cruise was out of Galveston on Carnival (many years ago). We went to Mexico on a 4 day cruise. We had fun but damn there were some very unruly and obnoxious passengers. After that trip we tried other cruise line and came to the conclusion that Carnival was not for us.
@@broncobill3902 I just did a cruise out of Galveston this year with NCL and everyone was so nice and well behaved. I think this just have to do with the Carnival brand.
Yes file assault charges 👍
Sailed on Carnival enough to be platinum & never ran into this problem, but also never did the short booze cruise. Also note most (not all) of these issues occur during the wee hours when the “average” person is asleep. 🤔
Carnival needs to toughen up and fine these people that are out of line.
They do, and put them on no sail list. They also need to report them to law enforcement.
To me the problem is short cruises combined with drink packages. This gives the cruise a frat party atmosphere and a lot of people try to down the fifteen maximum drink limit.
They should stop offering drink packages on short cruises; raise prices across the board; and increase the penalties for this behavior - $5000 fine, lifetime ban, referral to authorities and arrest them, disembark at the next port.
That is just lazy to blame the drink packages, other cruise lines have drink packages and those cruise lines are not having the issues like Carnival.
People need to be accountable for their actions.
First Carnival needs to raise their cruise fare.
Second if one person in the cabin or group gets into a fight the whole group should be removed from the ship at the next stop. Also everyone should be banned for a lifetime.
The entire country is on edge these days.. It's not just Carnival passengers, it's all over the place.. We see reports of crazy things every day.. Look at the almost daily videos of people getting out of line on airplanes these days as well. I have been on several Carnival cruises and never witnessed any fighting, but you get 3000-4000 people in close quarters, add a lot of alcohol, and there is a good chance of trouble breaking out.. I suspect some of these incidents will result in more security on ships, and as prices continue to increase, there will be fewer people able to afford cruising..
Hmm maybe that's why cheers package is so expensive
@@donnapee8402 15 drinks a day is quite a bit, especially considering that many people are casual drinkers until they go on a cruise or go to a resort.. If a person actually tries to insure they "get their money's worth" and tries to drink all 15, they will likely be smashed. I drink quite a bit, but I still don't buy the cheers package because even my wife and don't drink that heavily.
BS
I agree with you Don. More and well trained security. But not only that, a coordination between regular staff and security to alert them quickly if someone is getting too loud and agressive to have security approach that person early and remove them and talk with them , escort them to a certain area or evaluate their drunk level. All staff has to have eyes and ears and communication with trained security. Disney theme parks spend a lot of extra $ on this, but it’s impressive how they handle unruly guests. It’s mostly behind the scenes: cast member send an alert, camera people see who are the aggressors, security is rushing to area preventing serious situations. Trained security are high priced but well worth it. Also bar staff has to have the strength to not serve people who appear over served.
Yet Disney’s sexual assaults on their ships continue…
The problem seems to be 3&4 day booze cruises. Wonder what's going to happen when utopia of the seas starts 4 day cruises
Nothing... RC not playing with these ghetto people.
Just because the fights on YOUR favorite cruise line wasn’t recorded doesn’t mean that it only happens on Carnival.
Seriously?
I agree 1000%
Agree
@@larrys4383YEAH!!!!!
It may be 60% of of the cruise industry but you also have to do the math on how many ships vs. the other cruise lines have. I’ve been on over 20 CCL cruises. I have never seen a fight. I’ve seen many “gang” gaggles and troublemakers cruising together but I’ve seen the same o other cruise lines as well. But you are correct. anyone who is assaulted or starts a riot on a ship needs to have charges brought up as well. The 5 day and under cruises on all the ships are nothing but a glorified drunk fest especially for first time cruisers and those not about to grow up and act accordingly. Banning is not enough.
Carnival is now the Ghetto Fun Ship! Animals!
And that's why I hardly ever do short cruises.
32 cruises and 12 more booked on Carnival.
No problems!
Don are you going to continue to sail Carnival?
I can see a common denominator in the fight videos……
All the fight videos
We've been on over 60 cruises on 8 different cruise lines. Never saw a fight on our 34 Carnival Cruises. We did see a fight almost happen in the MDR on Royal. A passenger stepped in and stopped it.
We don't sail on short cruises.
I will say, I've been on two Carnival's in the last few years. One pre-dogs, one post. Didn't see a fight on either, but on the post dog cruise there was a night where someone started getting loud and aggressive and security appeared really fast, talked to him, and he chilled out and moved on. So maybe some ships and crews are handling it better than others, but the problem is it only takes one with everyone having cameras to film and share it.
How many of these fights have happened verses how many cruises sail daily? I suspect it's still a pretty rare thing, just more visible with modern technology in everyone's pockets.
Yes Carnival needs to have the security more visible and stop these things before they start.
I guess I've been lucky that on the 10 (ten) cruises I've taken on carnival I have never seen or heard of any fights on my cruises. We usually take 8 or more day cruises. I do agree that more security would help in those situations. I did notice on our last cruise on the Legend that there was security in the Lido, out side the disco lounge, near some of the bars and generally more visible. The only fight I saw on a cruise ship was our one and only RC cruise. Maybe it was an infrequent thing for them and maybe we will try RC again, maybe.
Criminal prosecution, fines, and bans. That's really the only way to respond to this kind of thing.
I wouldn't do carnival if it was free. This is an example of the clientele it attracts. Hard to imagine a passenger brawl on premium lines
It is rare when a fight does breakout on the premium cruise lines.
I'm so sad this is going on. First, I'd like to say I was on the paradise ship. We had a great time with no incidents. I don't know why people assume carnivals a discount cruise line. I find their prices are either higher or in line with the other 4 lines. With exception to msc cruises which seems to have less expensive deals often. We are platinum on carnival, so I've been on several cruises with them. NEVER HAD A PROBLEM BEFORE. PLEASE don't be discouraged it's not the norm, and you'll miss a fun time if you don't try them.
It’s about de-escalating a situation with well trained security personnel. You said it well Don! 😊
Four-and five-day booze cruises are magnets for this kind of nonsense. Carnival excels...
At this point I’m not looking to cruise with them any time soon either. I’m too old to be worrying about ref raf like that on my vacation.
Oh, that's a shame. I'm telling you the mardi gras ship is a wonderful expierence your missing out. On every carnival cruise I've been on never had this problem
Most of the fights Not to be racist but look at people who are fighting
Always
In their defense they chose a time and place to have their rumble which was late at night and out of the way. Only ppl up at that time are usually inebriated. And no small kids present. Maybe that's how they have "fun"? Sure, liberty and freedom appear messy but I much prefer that than paying my thousands for some Stasi-Polizei state cruise.
Here's a problem some people don't realize. My son works for WDW security. He is not allowed to do anything except observe and report....as much as he is physically capable of intervening. CCL & all the cruise lines need the equivalent of a "No Fly ( Cruise) List" that is recorded by EVERY cruise line.
More security personnel aren't going to solve the issue. The ones now are largely ignored anyway.
Certain groups of humanity have issues....🤨
RAISE THE PRICES & QUALITY !!!!!!! keep riff-raff & lowlifes ASHORE !!!!!!! REPUTATIONS ARE EARNED !!!!!!
Exactly right. Maybe all should have to take a manners quiz. These idiots would fail.
I have sailed 14 times with Carnival and never had an issue. I have seen fights on Royal. Its a shame that some people don't know how to behave. I do think it has something to do with certain port cities and the shorter cruises.
enjoy your check from carnival…..
No kidding. Haven't sailed with them since 2004.
You’re right Don, I have to agree, more intimidating looking security should be place in night clubs; late night activities, pool areas-in addition to fines, banning from ship, arrest should be made by local law enforcement because I don’t like that bad reputation for #CARNIVALCRUISELINES
Great advice Don!!!!
Very well said! I hope they listen to you!
Carnival has cultivated this type of customer for decades! They have done a great job of it. Changing it is almost impossible. It’s one of the reasons they bought other brands.
Good ole Carnival 😂, Mardi Gras I’ll be seeing you this Saturday. Can’t wait!
Great stuff. Makes for a drama and news. I've been on 15 in the last 2 years and never saw anything like it on Carnival.
I don't know if I would want to go on a cruise vacation where there would be so much security that you would feel you were in some sort of police state.
When we were discussing booking our last cruise with our travel agent, she suggested Carnival. It was a firm no from us for our family.
Just sent on the conquest june 7th - 10th and took my daughter as a high school graduation gift in the captain's suite. On that cruise 3 fights broke out and on embarkation day someone was already locked in their room by security and you could hear them screaming obscenities from inside the room. This was my our first cruise ever and besides the brawls we loved cruising except i didn't like that my daughter had to experience that. We already booked 3 more cruises all with MSC yacht club as I will NEVER give my money to carnival again!
Carnival is known as the "thug cruise line"...people are arrested as they disembark due to active warrants...true.
I don't understand why people choose to create or choose to engage in conflict when on vacation.
Perhaps, instead of gathering cruisers to push shopping on shore excursions, they should have a mandatory gathering to remind cruisers that this ship is not the place for fighting and explain ways to defuse conflict. Then back that up with pressing charges against any troublemakers.
Security has always been a visible presence when I've sailed NCL. I'll see them randomly around the ship several times a day, very few 'disturbances'. It should also be noted that NCL has the Free At Sea plan when booking a cruise, unlimited drinks every day, up to $15 per drink, no 15 drink daily limit like on Carnival.
Don these people drink Henny and cough syrup then brawl in Jordan sneakers. More security will not help.
I cruised on Vista last year on a 5 day sailing. Worst cruise I've been on. People verbally fighting. Bartenders were encouraging me to hit the 15 drink limit every day. I couldn't drink 15 alcoholic drinks in 1 day and stay coherent!!!! People walking around with speakers playing loud & obnoxious music. Pot in smoking section. Craziness!! I don't plan on cruising with Carnival again. RCL for me...
Bartenders encouraging people to hit the limit? It seems Carnival shouldn't just invest in security, but also bartender training...
@@pietersleijpen3662 So true. I saw bartenders serving obviously intoxicated people. I know we were on a cruise ship but not everyone is a happy drunk...
How do they bring pot? That's crazy
@@bettyb1581 no clue but smell was heavy... cra-cra
That's really bad. No wonder they have such a problem compared to the other lines.
The problem is simple, cruisers are bringing their, to be polite, hood with them. Raise prices so the low life"s do not sail
Nailed it!
I agree with much of what you said. The crack about "the Wal mart of cruise lines" was out of line though. A large part of society in general allows this type of problem. Want to riot and loot and burn stores. Well, that's ok. Want to throw beer cans and bottles at major sporting events, well that's ok too. Security is seldom seen on Carnival ships and the tipping factor in every incident I have witnessed has been alcohol. Some can handle it while others cannot. I just returned from a Royal cruise. Unlimited alcohol in their drink package but what they had more of is constantly visible security.
Go Celebrity...completely different atmosphere. Classy
No geto people like carnival
You recently discussed if the cruise bubble will (or is about to) burst. This type of event is what will cause it. Ships are too big, too much drink involved, too many party atmosphere cruises, and bargain prices on many ships. I'm so off cruising right now and friends are saying the same. Being stuck on a ship that needs security staff to manage drunks and aggressive travellers is not vacation money well spent. I'd rather give the money to a needy charity working hard on the ground, and feel better about how its been spent.
I know it’s unfair but I have no desire to sail on Carnival. They are not strong enough to keep these events from happening. They need to get tougher and less accommodating and forgiving.
What could be the one thing these thugs have in common? Give me a minute, I’ll come up with something…
What would be interesting is to see more statistics on these brawls on all cruise lines. Are they all on short cruises? Where are they home ported. Where are they sailing to? How many people are involved. What's the same, and what's different in all these incidents?
Everyone knows what the most common denominator is regarding bad behavior..
No 3 or 4 day booze cruises for us.
Our vacation looks veeeeeery different to that.
Unfortunately, no amount of money spent or security teaches class.
The pizza area after 10pm is dangerous on Carnival.
I totally agree. It is so loud and rowdy by the pizza place late at night. I am afraid to stay there too long. I just get my pizza and get the hell out of there and head for my cabin.
I have to admit that Carnival is on the bottom of my list of cruise lines I want to try.
Great points Don! Definitely more security that’s properly trained. Also, charge them in court.
Been on two MSC cruises and loved them!! Just got off the last cruise two days ago and already have another one scheduled for next June. Safe to say we probably will stay off carnival. We are not into the party boat atmosphere.
MSC all the way for me!
@@sarahmarcum3546 I love MSC.
👋 me 3 lol im due to go on my 6th 10 day msc cruise in October 🚢
I have zero desire to be anywhere these violent and on-edge people are. I’m thinking that any future cruise i might take would have to be no alcohol, no smoking,no one under 35. Y’all might laugh, but i’m sure i’m not the only one who hates noisy drunks and is hypersensitive to cigarette smoke.
It’s those short cruises that are the worse, I avoid them. But I was on the magic, long cruise, when that idiot cut someone when drunk.
I’ve just started avoiding Carnival. It’s a shame honestly. Carnival went for years allowing bad behavior with no consequences.
Agree with you Don. Invest in security and anticipate where issues usually are.
The 15 drink alcohol package is insane. It encourages rowdy behavior.
Strangely most on cruises with a high demographic of "THAT DEMOGRAPHIC!" are like this, i have been cruising from a non black country for 30 years and not had an issue or seen an issue.
Other lines have unlimited drinking.
Add security and they'll say they're being profiled. Its a no win for Carnival.
15 + cruises with carnival and i have not witnessed one brawl. We do try and avoid the 3 day cruises though.
Of course let's tip toe around the truth. Short cruises and the people it attracts.