@@ryanngungadin9871ONE is bigger than Bellator and the PFL just purchased Bellator too which makes it like 4 or 5 in MMA promotions - soon to be nonexistent once they fully integrate with PFL, who just bought out Bellator with Saudi money
Calling him the biggest name in Bellator is a push. Although I guess most of the big names there were ex-UFC/Pride fighters like Fedor, Bader, Pettis, Bendo, Lyoto, Yoel, etc. edit: Which also tells a lot about Bellator. MVP was just as big of a name if not bigger than Chandler and now he is fighting Kevin Holland this year. Patricio Pitbull is probably the best pound-for-pound fighter to never fight in the UFC, 3x Featherweight champion (8 defenses) and 1x Lightweight Champion (beat Chandler to get that one). Vadim Nemkov and AJ McKee are bigger prospects and would be top ranked in the UFC. But yeah, generally Bellator cards had horrible pacing and weird fights. Somehow, the most random stuff would happen without the fights actually being exciting.
What it means is that you’re a newb. I’ve been paying attention since the Eddie fights. The pit bull brthers fights. Hell even the margin held fight. Chandler been a bad man for a long time.
I think people sleep on ONE FC, they dominate the Asian fanbase. The mix of Muay Thai, kickboxing and BJJ into there events is honestly wildly entertaining. Much better than Bellator or PFL.
One is unfortunately going through a very, very bad financial struggle. It's probably going under if outside investors don't put money into it. Dana has said multiple times that this is a money burning business, really hard to make it profitable.
Yep. Also like Kevin Holland said. “Stop complaining about fighter pay. If you want money, fight. Keep fighting and you’ll make money.” Fighters just gotta stay active. Not everyone is McGregor.
Funny how Chandler said he took less money to be in the UFC and he just did it to see if he can compete with the best, Bellator definitely paid him well.
He’s not dissing the other company he’s explaining in a logical manner why fighter pay is lower in the UFC compared to other promotions. Obviously fighter pay could rise but why would you when your the biggest product in the sport and have zero competition
@@NyteLyfe Like double with a health plan on top, from my understanding the lowest get paid 10k per fight and fight around 4 times per year so their salary is $40k/year if they dont get the 50k bonus. Thats $26/hour CAD for me, I could probably make that much with a carpenter apprenticeship on indeed with little experience. I still think the top fighters should make more and Im a capitalist at heart but these people are literally fighting its not an easy job and mcgregor makes like 20 Million per fight and Dana gambled away 1 million in a day. Its so bs.
Fighters make more money in the UFC due to endorsements and social media clout it brings, not thru their base pay and contracts . Other organizations who can’t draw the same eyeballs as much as UFC can have to compensate that with more base pay in order to draw in better fighters
I’m so glad fighters on the UFC are speaking out on behalf of the company that’s making them wealthy and famous, all while growing the sport all over the world, and supporting so many other people as employees.
My respect for Chandler just went from sky high to rock bottom. He makes himself sound like an idiot, other orgs have almost no revenue yet still pay the average fighter about as much as the UFC, the UFC has orders of magnitude more revenue yet pays their fighters like they’re broke.
Because one is sustaining profit and one is leveraging debt. UFC is now part of a publicly traded company, and the public’s interest is at stake. Other organizations are leveraging debt and are not profitable. They are paying market value and competitive salaries to get skin in the game, not because they are generous and paying big bucks to share revenue. They are leveraging debt to gain some market share and eventually will even out when they do even out. You can't operate at a net loss every year and hope to be successful. These other organizations are paying bigger purses to get a stable of fighters to come over and that's the only way they can, until they can't anymore!
Yeah but he’s not wrong at all because look what happened to Bellator, they were going bankrupt and got bought by PFL. The only reason PFL could buy them is because the owner is a Saudi Billionaire who loves fights 😂
UFC pays an insane amount of money to be on ESPN. ESPN sets the ppv prices. UFC has to pay out of pocket to rent huge arenas for entire weekends, while NFL,NBA etc. Use tax payer funded arenas. It's okay you don't understand, just don't pretend like you do.
Virtually every sport in existence pays around half its earnings to the players. It just seems natural to do so, as they ARE the product, they ARE the entertainment. If anything, you'd think UFC fighters would get payed more than 50% given the brutal nature of the sport, not multiple times less than what is standard.
Fighters need to build a following on social media and get all the eyeballs themselves to avoid the money/leverage hungry UFC honestly and make boxer money
Fighters are still allowed to have their own sponsors. They’re just not allowed to wear outside sponsors during fight week, when they’ve got the most attention. That is the problem. It’s very bad for fighters lower on the card. But also a major reason top fighters stop fighting frequently as they get popular. They cannot promote their personal sponsors and losses can be damaging to their overall brand + marketability.
Hes hit the nail on the head in terms of the product. Bellators were absolutely chronic at building fighter brands. I swear down, I would have been able to do a better job as a one man team.
i like one fc more than ufc. hope they take over in 2024 which will force the ufc to change the way they operate in order to compete, because right now the ufc is not really competing with anyone. they are on another level
Didn’t the ufc take away the fighters ability to have sponsors and make money, gsp had under armor, Jon jones had Nike, now every fighter has to go on podcast and try to make sense of them being robbed
Ok this changes noting about the percentage of revenue shared with the fighters. Treating y’all like Instagram models you’re gloating about fighting for exposure when you should have both the exposure and better revenue sharing. YOURE THE PRODUCT MIKE
The conversation is more about fighter pay vs professional athletes in other sports; the UFC is printing money and most of their roster is broke. Masvidal pointed out that the revenue percentage UFC pays toward fighters is much less than other pro sports
UFC may not pay a fightershit load, but people have to remember that you ARE in the UFC, it is entirely up to you whether or not you make a name out of it. Countless oppurtunities in the UFC, its like a yellow book, the whole world is watching you.
UFC pay starts at $12k to show + $12k to win + $4k Venum Sponsorship. One Championship pay starts at $1.5k to show + $1.5k to win + their fight kit sponsors depends on their popularity. If i was a pro mma fighter and had to choose between the 2, i would simply go to UFC. Even with fight kit sponsors, One fighters will not earn even half of what UFC fighter earn. It is just facts.
Yeah so much revenue goes into the promotional aspects for fights, fighters and the company which require alot more staff and equipment. 20k a fight is not that bad, fight 3-4 times a year and you're already doing better than the average American, not to mention the win/other bonuses.
Here’s the thing about UFC fighters and their pay… if you’re at the bottom of the bottom like a 0-2, 1-1, or even like a 3-5 record you will make bout 60k over those 5 or so fights and it’s on you if you level up gotta win ya know… also once you get up to a main card and not even the main fight just on the card you get paid pretty good and lastly UFC fighter pay is NOT viewable to the public anymore so don’t get it twisted fighters are making some “Professional Athlete money” if you will
After all these years complaining about pay, if it’s so bad, why even participate in the organization? Dana won’t change as long as there’s people willing to do this sport in this organization.
@@dobronx4771 exactly… and even DC came out and said that Dana called him after he only earned like 30k for the Jon Jones fight the first one and Dana called after and said the PPV did so good he’s giving him over a Million for it. So therefore just shows he takes care of the fighters
Chandler is too smart to believe this but he is a company man. Dana brought him over. He apparently gave him a very good deal and so whats Chandler going to say? Ufc rips off fighters? Of course not. He wants that conor fight and so he comes out and is loyal. You can be both loyal and dishonest and often times to be loyal requires you to be dishonest.
Loyal to ufc? It ia never wise to be loyal to a company, ufc didnt give him anything he doesnt deserve, thats 100% correct, and they def underpaid him like all others
Just because other companies don’t make much doesn’t excuse the UFC for not giving fighters a bigger cut of the revenue. Zero logic, he’s glazing dana. That’s like a Walmart employee actually giving a fuck about their job
@@jimmybeanchugger1832 stop with this wannabe moral nonsense. The brutal reality 14 year olds like you don’t seem to accept is the ufc is a FOR PROFIT company. If you make the ufc money, they will pay you, if you don’t not. You don’t get paid. It’s Simple
I hate that theirs a handful of fighters that get paid the best that are happy to bat for the company rather than help their colleagues get a better deal. I like chandler in general but the guys at the bottom don't get enough. Having 2nd jobs and not earning enough to pay for training, coaches and expenses when you've made it to the biggest company in your sport is insane and you can't even go out and get private sponsorship.
The median income of an NFL player is $860,000. They play 17 regular season games. Their viewership is on average 18 million. That's $3,000 per million viewers at a single event. The UFC doesn't seem that off to me. The real problem is that fighters cannot fight that many times a year. Thats not a problem with the company. Of course, a promotion can do things that increase their athletes' income but its not as egregious as everyone always acts like it is.
So what you’re trying to say is you never watched Bellator, you just only know about Douglas Lima because he trains a nearby gym and it’s well known in your area? Got it.
The UFC should allow fighters their own sponsors on their shorts and equipment. Thats the fairest way of resolving fighter pay. Why they dont have 100% earnings from what they wear is beyond me. But beyond that, the UFC operates differently to boxing - it has to pay for all the fighters on the undercards as well as all the operating and expansion costs. Its almost a governing body as well as a promoter and production company. I'm sure they could share a bit more like most companies, but they can't simply offer Saudi boxing money to fighters.
I love that he said this. The UFC brought the sport where it is. And frankly they have been paying the fighters more and more year after year. I’m glad they pocket some of the money because if they didn’t they would’ve never gotten as big and the fighters would never get paid what they’re getting paid now Whiners gonna whine. It’s a toxic culture we’re living in where we expect things from private companies
Every other major pro sports league pays 45% revenue per athlete. The UFC pays an abysmal 15%. There is a reason why their HW GOAT is a guy with a f'n day job. Any HW sized elite athlete is in the NBA, NFL, NBA, NHL, MLB, etc. Hell Francis made almost 17x his UFC HW title purse boxing Fury.
Lol the UFC should definitely be paying their fighters more, and full benefits. Without the workers (in this case fighters) you have nothing, you make no profits, nobody watches, etc
There’s only one way… and that’s through connecting with a bigger audience. The UFC makes that happen - but you take a guy like Jake Paul who doesn’t need that vehicle to get the audience and theres big money without any organization in particular. But the best fighters are under contract with professional organization, so he still needs to negotiate to get the fights people want to see… so it’s a half-truth… But for most people it’s more or less accurate.
Its like a road contract but with millions of people inspecting for problems in the road, and unless ur a top tier contractor, ur not gonna make much matter fact even loose money,just like real contractors. But with boxing,since you are independent, YOU CAN MAKE INSPECTORS pay for inspecting and many of them do pay,you can even hype up the inspectors for more money AND THEN FINALLY you build the road, it might be bad/terrible/shocking, regardless you got paid already.
People like him are the bootlickers who can't stand his fraternity. Francis Nganu knows the reality. Even if your organization pays you big. It's never big enough. You deserve more . That should be the attitude my friend.
MMA is the most dangerous sport in the world. Most of these MMA guys will be suffering in life once they reach their late 50s and they gonna be mostly brain damaged like Mark Coleman, Chuck Liddell, etc. And most of them broke.
Give the fighters back the option to have sponsors on their clothes, and it will be much better. You can pay them a minimal show fee if they can make 50k a fight from sponsors
Dana has nothing to do with fighters pay...the fighter is in control of their pay based on how many fans/followers they can acquire. McGregor is the perfect example...he understood he's selling himself as a brand to the fans and he understood people like controversy and trash talk when you can back it up...hate him or love him he damn near doubled the UFC's earnings and made the sport 10 times more popular and created more UFC jobs.
@@ThaFunFactGuy the recent court documents showed Conor made a couple million off the Aldo fight. A fight that generated 100 of millions in revenue. There is a reason Conor said he needed shares in the UFC after he beat Eddie
Yes but also the UFC is the biggest out of all these companies and not by a little, by a LANDSLIDE. So I think they can afford a few extra million a year when it comes down to fighter pay…
This is a flawed argument. What fighters are saying is they want more profit sharing. If you make 100k from your fights, that’s pretty fantastic. If on the fights that make you 100k someone else is making 900k there may be a problem with the pay structure. No one is questioning if a fighter signed a contract and got what they were promised. People are questioning the profit sharing ratio.
Okay so then all he’s saying is the smaller companies with less money still give their fighters a more fair share of the money 😂. He didn’t make the point he thought he made there 😂
I agree and have not had a problem with it (not that i matter though lol because i aint fighting) but they should still have the opportunity to have sponsors. If not on their shorts, atleast on a banner before the fight starts. But it isn’t anything on like the backside of the shorts right?
I don’t care what you say Michael Chandler and many other fighters should have a lot more money for their blood, sweat and tears but you can’t beat loyalty if you’re on the UFC, Rossiter, you shouldn’t not have to worry about living expenses and some of the stories I’ve heard are very saddening ✌🏽 Dana White has no loyalties he just protects his investments like any other businessman does if Dana White is a multimillionaire so should all of his fighters he’s never spent one minute in the cage under pressure fighting life or family,
"In 5 years, I had the camera on me one time"
That says it all
What does he mean
That they dont promote the fighters lol @@Lilsandros
@@Lilsandrosthey cant highlight a fighter as they dont get ppv and they pay less to fighters thats all because they dont have enough money to do it !
Because no one, no-one watches belator and they are The mma number 2
@@ryanngungadin9871ONE is bigger than Bellator and the PFL just purchased Bellator too which makes it like 4 or 5 in MMA promotions - soon to be nonexistent once they fully integrate with PFL, who just bought out Bellator with Saudi money
Historically speaking; expecting to get rich in a gladiator sport, you really have to be top tier.
Either top tier skill or top tier personality and charisma
You mean white?
Lol @@Jbeeze82 color has nothing to do with it come one
Top guy in the ufc is black, most are@@Jbeeze82
@@Jbeeze82Is this how you cope with your failures
Should let fighters have sponsors on there shorts like they used to
Agreed that way fighters can earn independently and the promotions could save money by lessening their purses
Well reebok ruined that
That's when everything changed and UFC fighters even coming off of a win refused to resign with them.
FACTS,that’s really the main issue!
Imagine how much someone with a GymShark, Gatorade, or PlayStation sponsorship on there shorts would make
He was the biggest name in Bellator but I hadn't heard of him till his UFC debut. Means alot
Calling him the biggest name in Bellator is a push.
Although I guess most of the big names there were ex-UFC/Pride fighters like Fedor, Bader, Pettis, Bendo, Lyoto, Yoel, etc. edit: Which also tells a lot about Bellator.
MVP was just as big of a name if not bigger than Chandler and now he is fighting Kevin Holland this year.
Patricio Pitbull is probably the best pound-for-pound fighter to never fight in the UFC, 3x Featherweight champion (8 defenses) and 1x Lightweight Champion (beat Chandler to get that one).
Vadim Nemkov and AJ McKee are bigger prospects and would be top ranked in the UFC.
But yeah, generally Bellator cards had horrible pacing and weird fights. Somehow, the most random stuff would happen without the fights actually being exciting.
Then you weren't paying attention
@@kaisersozaay or maybe they were a shit org that didn't promote properly
What it means is that you’re a newb. I’ve been paying attention since the Eddie fights. The pit bull brthers fights. Hell even the margin held fight. Chandler been a bad man for a long time.
@@themanagement69 good for you
I think people sleep on ONE FC, they dominate the Asian fanbase. The mix of Muay Thai, kickboxing and BJJ into there events is honestly wildly entertaining. Much better than Bellator or PFL.
One is unfortunately going through a very, very bad financial struggle. It's probably going under if outside investors don't put money into it. Dana has said multiple times that this is a money burning business, really hard to make it profitable.
ONE FC is my next fav promotion after UFC. One puts on amazing fights. the BBJ and Mauy Thai fights be great
They have top contenders fighting for 2500/2500
@@renanalexandre6476 how is he rakin it in if it's so hard to make profitable?!
THREE HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND BAAAAAAAHHHHT
Spoken like a true company man
Tell that to derek brunson
The bum?
@@brandondavenport9957 that bum is making mad money now in PFL. Generational type of money, type of money you'll never see in ur life lol.
@@fidelfunezflexing another man’s wealth is wild
@@fidelfunezwhere’s your proof of that ?
@@fidelfunezmaking mad money in a dying organization 🤩
Dana must love this guy. He got hit in the head too much
Dana likes fighters who can put fans in the seats and sell pay-per-view fights which sadly is only a handful of fighters
@@ThaFunFactGuy whatever you say one of Dana’s paid commenters
@@ThaFunFactGuy- Who are those fighters besides Izzy, Connor, Hamzat, Costa and John Jones?
@@chicnoir29 O'Malley, Volk, Colby, JG, Poirier even Islam if it's in fight island
@@ThaFunFactGuy well that’s human nature in general. If you’re a boss, you sure ass hell gonna love the employee who makes you money.
Chandler over here glazing
he’s company men
@@thatpersiandude7386you can’t refute anything he’s saying fucking bum.
Yep. Also like Kevin Holland said. “Stop complaining about fighter pay. If you want money, fight. Keep fighting and you’ll make money.” Fighters just gotta stay active. Not everyone is McGregor.
Funny how Chandler said he took less money to be in the UFC and he just did it to see if he can compete with the best, Bellator definitely paid him well.
He’s not dissing the other company he’s explaining in a logical manner why fighter pay is lower in the UFC compared to other promotions. Obviously fighter pay could rise but why would you when your the biggest product in the sport and have zero competition
"""The only way to succeed in this game is to be me or beat me ""
“Isn’t he fkn awesome?”
A stud
Dana pays a few handsomely to do his bidding.
This gent is one of them.
That's because when Michael Chandler is fighting you what he's gunna do , dana likes fighters that will put on a show, an gaddam Chandler is a show
All the top fighters make bank as millionaires. Its just the lower ranks that dont get paid nearly enough. Its not fair but lets keep it a buck.
@@FireHydrantForeheadNyquil how much should the lower ranks get paid ?
@@NyteLyfe Like double with a health plan on top, from my understanding the lowest get paid 10k per fight and fight around 4 times per year so their salary is $40k/year if they dont get the 50k bonus. Thats $26/hour CAD for me, I could probably make that much with a carpenter apprenticeship on indeed with little experience. I still think the top fighters should make more and Im a capitalist at heart but these people are literally fighting its not an easy job and mcgregor makes like 20 Million per fight and Dana gambled away 1 million in a day. Its so bs.
True company man
Fighters make more money in the UFC due to endorsements and social media clout it brings, not thru their base pay and contracts . Other organizations who can’t draw the same eyeballs as much as UFC can have to compensate that with more base pay in order to draw in better fighters
I’m so glad fighters on the UFC are speaking out on behalf of the company that’s making them wealthy and famous, all while growing the sport all over the world, and supporting so many other people as employees.
Bro is grinding his Dana white privilege battle pass!
My respect for Chandler just went from sky high to rock bottom. He makes himself sound like an idiot, other orgs have almost no revenue yet still pay the average fighter about as much as the UFC, the UFC has orders of magnitude more revenue yet pays their fighters like they’re broke.
Because one is sustaining profit and one is leveraging debt.
UFC is now part of a publicly traded company, and the public’s interest is at stake.
Other organizations are leveraging debt and are not profitable. They are paying market value and competitive salaries to get skin in the game, not because they are generous and paying big bucks to share revenue. They are leveraging debt to gain some market share and eventually will even out when they do even out. You can't operate at a net loss every year and hope to be successful. These other organizations are paying bigger purses to get a stable of fighters to come over and that's the only way they can, until they can't anymore!
This really changes your opinion on him that drastically 😂
Chandler about to realize the only way to really get paid is fight mcgreggor 😂❤
All you’re saying is they give you a smaller piece of a bigger pie that’s not fair that’s just the best you can get
Kimbo won 50k 100k cash in the backyard 😂😂😂
It's sad as soon as Chandler made it to UFC he disses the company that supported him all these years
He’s simply explaining the truth, yes or yes
Yeah but he’s not wrong at all because look what happened to Bellator, they were going bankrupt and got bought by PFL. The only reason PFL could buy them is because the owner is a Saudi Billionaire who loves fights 😂
How is he dissing them? He's just explaining the reality of the situation
@@GauravSharma-j2o Who also bought PFL that was dying
What a dumb comment. Do you say the same thing about Francis?
If the only way to get rich is in the ufc then why did he not come over until he was 35?
the nba, nfl, mlb all have 50% profit sharing with the players and staff, while ufc has 10%
UFC pays an insane amount of money to be on ESPN. ESPN sets the ppv prices. UFC has to pay out of pocket to rent huge arenas for entire weekends, while NFL,NBA etc. Use tax payer funded arenas. It's okay you don't understand, just don't pretend like you do.
@@CJM23 lol you literally don’t understand ESPN paid hundreds of millions of dollars to the ufc to broadcast them
Virtually every sport in existence pays around half its earnings to the players. It just seems natural to do so, as they ARE the product, they ARE the entertainment. If anything, you'd think UFC fighters would get payed more than 50% given the brutal nature of the sport, not multiple times less than what is standard.
@@CJM23Wow you are textbook dumb. Id correct you but it already looks like you're too simple to understand lmao
Each one of those sports you listed also has a players union.. BIG difference, they actually have leverage in negotiations- UFC fighters don’t
Chandlers a beast
Life of a fighter…brutal in more ways than one
Dana putting money into his pocket is funny as hell😅
Fighters need to build a following on social media and get all the eyeballs themselves to avoid the money/leverage hungry UFC honestly and make boxer money
Fighters are still allowed to have their own sponsors. They’re just not allowed to wear outside sponsors during fight week, when they’ve got the most attention.
That is the problem. It’s very bad for fighters lower on the card. But also a major reason top fighters stop fighting frequently as they get popular. They cannot promote their personal sponsors and losses can be damaging to their overall brand + marketability.
Support smaller organizations, because the fighters truly deserve more. Hopefully more fighters stand up against the UFC and make things right.
Blah blah the same boring nonsense. People like you and your opinions will kill the sport of mma
Hes hit the nail on the head in terms of the product. Bellators were absolutely chronic at building fighter brands. I swear down, I would have been able to do a better job as a one man team.
Mighty Mouse would disagree he wasn’t even getting $500k a fight as the champion.
Poor guy, Dana's always listening. He has to make sure he doesn't say the wrong thing.
i like one fc more than ufc. hope they take over in 2024 which will force the ufc to change the way they operate in order to compete, because right now the ufc is not really competing with anyone. they are on another level
Didn’t the ufc take away the fighters ability to have sponsors and make money, gsp had under armor, Jon jones had Nike, now every fighter has to go on podcast and try to make sense of them being robbed
MVP was the biggest name in Bellator
Chandler is right...Olivier Aubin Mercier winning that million dollar prize on a Ufc fight night was amazing for his career 😂😂😂
Every other mma fighter actually complains about ufc fighter pay chandler the only one that seems satisfied
Ok this changes noting about the percentage of revenue shared with the fighters. Treating y’all like Instagram models you’re gloating about fighting for exposure when you should have both the exposure and better revenue sharing. YOURE THE PRODUCT MIKE
The conversation is more about fighter pay vs professional athletes in other sports; the UFC is printing money and most of their roster is broke. Masvidal pointed out that the revenue percentage UFC pays toward fighters is much less than other pro sports
UFC may not pay a fightershit load, but people have to remember that you ARE in the UFC, it is entirely up to you whether or not you make a name out of it. Countless oppurtunities in the UFC, its like a yellow book, the whole world is watching you.
UFC pay starts at $12k to show + $12k to win + $4k Venum Sponsorship. One Championship pay starts at $1.5k to show + $1.5k to win + their fight kit sponsors depends on their popularity. If i was a pro mma fighter and had to choose between the 2, i would simply go to UFC. Even with fight kit sponsors, One fighters will not earn even half of what UFC fighter earn. It is just facts.
He is surprisingly well spoken.
It awful that the UFC took away individual sponsorships from fighters to place on attire.
I say, let the fighters have Nascar trunks again. Fighters weren't complaining as much fighter pay when they had individual sponsors.
Dana can try to defend the pay situation all he wants but he has no answer to removing personal sponsors from fighters shorts. That was indefensible
My dad NEVER played any video games at all with me. Asking him to do that is a waste of his time and also disrespectful.
Yeah so much revenue goes into the promotional aspects for fights, fighters and the company which require alot more staff and equipment. 20k a fight is not that bad, fight 3-4 times a year and you're already doing better than the average American, not to mention the win/other bonuses.
Allen genuinely can’t understand that not EVERY SINGLE CHRISTIAN will be a disciple.
UFC does screw their private contractors. They treat their actual employees much better.
Chandler now is a big name in the ufc also so hes see the sams figure number
I love how chandler actually knows what he’s talking about. Being at the top of another org for years
Here’s the thing about UFC fighters and their pay… if you’re at the bottom of the bottom like a 0-2, 1-1, or even like a 3-5 record you will make bout 60k over those 5 or so fights and it’s on you if you level up gotta win ya know… also once you get up to a main card and not even the main fight just on the card you get paid pretty good and lastly UFC fighter pay is NOT viewable to the public anymore so don’t get it twisted fighters are making some “Professional Athlete money” if you will
After all these years complaining about pay, if it’s so bad, why even participate in the organization? Dana won’t change as long as there’s people willing to do this sport in this organization.
@@dobronx4771 exactly… and even DC came out and said that Dana called him after he only earned like 30k for the Jon Jones fight the first one and Dana called after and said the PPV did so good he’s giving him over a Million for it. So therefore just shows he takes care of the fighters
Chandler is too smart to believe this but he is a company man. Dana brought him over. He apparently gave him a very good deal and so whats Chandler going to say? Ufc rips off fighters? Of course not. He wants that conor fight and so he comes out and is loyal.
You can be both loyal and dishonest and often times to be loyal requires you to be dishonest.
Loyal to ufc? It ia never wise to be loyal to a company, ufc didnt give him anything he doesnt deserve, thats 100% correct, and they def underpaid him like all others
It’s becoming embarrassing how badly Connor is “soning” Chandler about this fight. Especially considering it’s Mike’s twilight years as a fighter.
“ is too smart “ either that or your too stupid too see the simple logic of his statement
Just because other companies don’t make much doesn’t excuse the UFC for not giving fighters a bigger cut of the revenue. Zero logic, he’s glazing dana. That’s like a Walmart employee actually giving a fuck about their job
@@jimmybeanchugger1832 stop with this wannabe moral nonsense. The brutal reality 14 year olds like you don’t seem to accept is the ufc is a FOR PROFIT company. If you make the ufc money, they will pay you, if you don’t not. You don’t get paid. It’s Simple
I hate that theirs a handful of fighters that get paid the best that are happy to bat for the company rather than help their colleagues get a better deal. I like chandler in general but the guys at the bottom don't get enough. Having 2nd jobs and not earning enough to pay for training, coaches and expenses when you've made it to the biggest company in your sport is insane and you can't even go out and get private sponsorship.
Steve-O was the last guy I'd have expected to chime in lmaooo
The median income of an NFL player is $860,000. They play 17 regular season games. Their viewership is on average 18 million.
That's $3,000 per million viewers at a single event. The UFC doesn't seem that off to me.
The real problem is that fighters cannot fight that many times a year. Thats not a problem with the company. Of course, a promotion can do things that increase their athletes' income but its not as egregious as everyone always acts like it is.
Douglas Lima was the first and prolly
Only bellator fighter I know (he trains Muay Thai at a gym local to me)
So what you’re trying to say is you never watched Bellator, you just only know about Douglas Lima because he trains a nearby gym and it’s well known in your area? Got it.
The UFC should allow fighters their own sponsors on their shorts and equipment. Thats the fairest way of resolving fighter pay. Why they dont have 100% earnings from what they wear is beyond me. But beyond that, the UFC operates differently to boxing - it has to pay for all the fighters on the undercards as well as all the operating and expansion costs. Its almost a governing body as well as a promoter and production company. I'm sure they could share a bit more like most companies, but they can't simply offer Saudi boxing money to fighters.
A guy who was known for being on the loosing end of a highlight reel knockout became a millionaire in a year by winning the PFL. This is major cap.
I love that he said this. The UFC brought the sport where it is. And frankly they have been paying the fighters more and more year after year. I’m glad they pocket some of the money because if they didn’t they would’ve never gotten as big and the fighters would never get paid what they’re getting paid now
Whiners gonna whine. It’s a toxic culture we’re living in where we expect things from private companies
So it's the media, not the organization, he said it himself the camera was ONLY on him one time, it's the media who makes companies popular
So many Dana D riders in the comments that couldnt care less about the fighters
No other major company gives a fair wage. Walmart and McDonald's don't pay employees based on how much money comes in
Every other major pro sports league pays 45% revenue per athlete. The UFC pays an abysmal 15%. There is a reason why their HW GOAT is a guy with a f'n day job. Any HW sized elite athlete is in the NBA, NFL, NBA, NHL, MLB, etc. Hell Francis made almost 17x his UFC HW title purse boxing Fury.
Lol the UFC should definitely be paying their fighters more, and full benefits. Without the workers (in this case fighters) you have nothing, you make no profits, nobody watches, etc
HE'S A COMPANY MAN. YOU CAN'T BE AN INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR UNDER CONTRACT.
There’s only one way… and that’s through connecting with a bigger audience. The UFC makes that happen - but you take a guy like Jake Paul who doesn’t need that vehicle to get the audience and theres big money without any organization in particular. But the best fighters are under contract with professional organization, so he still needs to negotiate to get the fights people want to see… so it’s a half-truth… But for most people it’s more or less accurate.
Its like a road contract but with millions of people inspecting for problems in the road, and unless ur a top tier contractor, ur not gonna make much matter fact even loose money,just like real contractors.
But with boxing,since you are independent, YOU CAN MAKE INSPECTORS pay for inspecting and many of them do pay,you can even hype up the inspectors for more money AND THEN FINALLY you build the road, it might be bad/terrible/shocking, regardless you got paid already.
Mikey the man who will do what he told
Stockholm syndrome..
Funny 😂 Tbf though Mike gets paid well from the UFC compared to other fighters lol
Dana would make a promote a shitty ass slapping competitions that no one watches rather then paying there fighters a little bit more money
1 million at PFL seems pretty nice.
MVP pokemon capture on his opponent is still mad 😂
Tell that to Francis Ngannou
When you don’t pay your fighters Vegas will
50k for a fight is criminal when your fighting for a multi billion dollar org like the UFC.
lot of ufc fighters seem to be living the good life most dont even fight 3 times a year to maximize the income
Hes a fighter, not a business man
Aaaaand now One Championship is the biggest organisation
People like him are the bootlickers who can't stand his fraternity. Francis Nganu knows the reality. Even if your organization pays you big. It's never big enough. You deserve more . That should be the attitude my friend.
Everyone more concerned about what ufc fighters are getting more than what there own income is lol, which is probably pittance
MMA is the most dangerous sport in the world. Most of these MMA guys will be suffering in life once they reach their late 50s and they gonna be mostly brain damaged like Mark Coleman, Chuck Liddell, etc. And most of them broke.
Give the fighters back the option to have sponsors on their clothes, and it will be much better. You can pay them a minimal show fee if they can make 50k a fight from sponsors
Still annoys me though Dana gambling away millions while fighters are struggling
Facts 😮
he started the business he can do what he wants
Dana has nothing to do with fighters pay...the fighter is in control of their pay based on how many fans/followers they can acquire. McGregor is the perfect example...he understood he's selling himself as a brand to the fans and he understood people like controversy and trash talk when you can back it up...hate him or love him he damn near doubled the UFC's earnings and made the sport 10 times more popular and created more UFC jobs.
@@ThaFunFactGuy the recent court documents showed Conor made a couple million off the Aldo fight. A fight that generated 100 of millions in revenue. There is a reason Conor said he needed shares in the UFC after he beat Eddie
@Brando5oh4 after your first sentence I just discarded everything else you said
Company men, I swear if they are fighting or working under ufc 🙄
It’s crazy to think that he has only been in the UFC since 2021..
There’s no way he was the biggest name for 5 years
This will change with Bellator and PFL merging and having a deal with ESPN.
It wont catch UFC anytime soon but they will definitely get more exposure
Bank account ain’t growing but them damn ears are
Conor mcgregor was right abour Michael Chandler. He definitely does what hes told
One or PFL pay way more on average, but on the high-end UFC pays more
They get a bigger percentage of revenue, but zero percent of zero, is still zero
Yes but also the UFC is the biggest out of all these companies and not by a little, by a LANDSLIDE. So I think they can afford a few extra million a year when it comes down to fighter pay…
But everybody constantly talks shit about dana white
This is a flawed argument. What fighters are saying is they want more profit sharing.
If you make 100k from your fights, that’s pretty fantastic. If on the fights that make you 100k someone else is making 900k there may be a problem with the pay structure.
No one is questioning if a fighter signed a contract and got what they were promised. People are questioning the profit sharing ratio.
Okay so then all he’s saying is the smaller companies with less money still give their fighters a more fair share of the money 😂. He didn’t make the point he thought he made there 😂
I agree and have not had a problem with it (not that i matter though lol because i aint fighting) but they should still have the opportunity to have sponsors. If not on their shorts, atleast on a banner before the fight starts. But it isn’t anything on like the backside of the shorts right?
Yeah but like with other sports the fighters should be able to have their own sponsors
danas giving him a 1.50$ for saying this
No...at least 10$ and a frapicino
Now hes waiting 2 years of the end of his carrerr for mccnuggets to actually fight him.
I don’t care what you say Michael Chandler and many other fighters should have a lot more money for their blood, sweat and tears but you can’t beat loyalty if you’re on the UFC, Rossiter, you shouldn’t not have to worry about living expenses and some of the stories I’ve heard are very saddening ✌🏽 Dana White has no loyalties he just protects his investments like any other businessman does if Dana White is a multimillionaire so should all of his fighters he’s never spent one minute in the cage under pressure fighting life or family,