The Lost Flamborough Lifeboat Documentary (1992-1993) RNLI Heroes

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  • @thornwicktv
    @thornwicktv  6 років тому +3

    Please drop a comment below of your memories or tales of this time.
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    • @QUADBLADER
      @QUADBLADER 6 років тому +3

      Yes it was a sad day for Flamborough, But only time would tell if this was going to be the end of true hero's and life saving at Flamborough. I am happy to say that the 2 inshore boats that Flamborough has had so far have also been worth their weight in gold. After many years on inshore boat rescues still happen, the crews are Awesome and are ready to go when requested. The Elite of Flamborough never turn back. God speed all that are in the flamborough crews new and old. Im proud of you all George Traves

    • @thornwicktv
      @thornwicktv  6 років тому

      @@QUADBLADER thanks for your kind comments. John

    • @zerotoleranceforsataniceli4794
      @zerotoleranceforsataniceli4794 3 роки тому +2

      What were the reasons for changing to a craft that couldn't go out in all weathers because of its size & being an inflatable?
      The reasons aren't clear, is it purely financial?
      I also don't get the reasons for the "new" crew going against the old crew when they are so inexperienced, so how could they judge ?
      I wonder if they weren't paid something to do so.

    • @zerotoleranceforsataniceli4794
      @zerotoleranceforsataniceli4794 3 роки тому +2

      Ps Do you have an update on how the new boat has fared over the last 27 yrs ?
      Or rather, how have rescues gone in that area when there is no local boat ?
      It seems a very inhumane decision was made & without discussing it with the locals as well as the old crew.

  • @te9017
    @te9017 4 роки тому +11

    I live thousands of miles away from any RNLI lifeboat but have always admired the courage and dedication of all RNLI volunteers .

  • @borleyboo5613
    @borleyboo5613 3 роки тому +8

    Awwww! I could really feel their sadness at the loss of their boat and traditions. So very sad. Very nice documentary and I loved the music by Enya. It went perfectly with the images. Thank you.

  • @BadgerBadgerBadger28
    @BadgerBadgerBadger28 9 місяців тому +4

    To here Robert’s voice brought me to tears
    That man helped me more than you can imagine and for me been a wessi
    He’s one of the reasons I now have a gansie and the love of the sea

  • @qmmo
    @qmmo 4 роки тому +27

    Heartbreaking. I cut my donations & changed my will when the RNLI executive shelved the crew for having saucy tea mugs. Decades of life saving experience axed by vacuous office wallers who couldn't scratch an itch! This documentary has just hardened my resolve which saddens me no end but you have to stand up for your principles to retain an element of self-respect.

    • @thornwicktv
      @thornwicktv  4 роки тому +8

      Its terrible when bureaucracy detracts from the point of why we are here?? Saving lives and keeping heroes motivated is surely paramount. Thanks for commenting.

    • @richardkelly5409
      @richardkelly5409 4 роки тому +9

      qmmo don’t forget the £200,000 a year plus wages for the head of the service , while volunteers do the dangerous work , while he cut our coverage to a rib around NW and the Mersey, and channelled £5000,000 to Bangladesh and Pakistan , buying burkinis and swimming lessons for the locals , you couldn’t make it up and I sail .

    • @richardkelly5409
      @richardkelly5409 4 роки тому +9

      Everyone of the lads are true heroes , going out in horrendous conditions , often in the dark , to save strangers’ lives .

    • @zerotoleranceforsataniceli4794
      @zerotoleranceforsataniceli4794 3 роки тому +2

      @@richardkelly5409 When was that?
      Did he have permission from those who donate to spend the money abroad while cutting back on services at home ?
      I'm really shocked.

  • @LaziUK
    @LaziUK 8 місяців тому +4

    The experience of a lifetime at sea can not be replaced by a training people for a few weeks on how to rescue people at sea. If you lose the experience you lose the real knowledge.

  • @potatopeeler1862
    @potatopeeler1862 5 років тому +18

    I've always stood by the Crew of the RNLI Lifeboats as for the Executives at the top of the RNLI well they are the worst thing to happen the the organisation in the last few years.

  • @dobsterello
    @dobsterello Рік тому +2

    I remember Michael Vlasto who was the Atlantic 21 training officer in this film!! He made it right to the top of RNLI in the 90’s as chief of operations.

  • @pault5947
    @pault5947 5 років тому +7

    Poignant and powefull video.
    Side note :- The transition to the last bit (f1 coverage) was a real reminder of VHS recording, LP (long play) aswell lol.

  • @karldenton
    @karldenton 4 роки тому +5

    Nice video memory. Same thing happening at Filey now - they are getting an Atlantic next year

    • @thornwicktv
      @thornwicktv  4 роки тому +1

      The times are constantly a changing. Lol thanks for commenting Karl.

    • @joelwhitaker2274
      @joelwhitaker2274 3 роки тому +3

      Same at my old station, Margate.

    • @zerotoleranceforsataniceli4794
      @zerotoleranceforsataniceli4794 3 роки тому +2

      @@joelwhitaker2274 What do the locals think ?

    • @CymruEmergencyResponder
      @CymruEmergencyResponder 2 роки тому

      @@zerotoleranceforsataniceli4794 Locals we’re the reason it happened at Margate. Margate was supposed to get a new Shannon Class All-Weather Lifeboat to replace the Mersey Class All-Weather Lifeboat but local business owners objected to planning permission for a new lifeboat station because it would spoil their views. They clearly forgot that lifeboat stations are also popular tourist attractions and would actually bring visitors to their businesses. As a result, Margate was downgraded to an ILB only station with a D Class and an Atlantic 85.

    • @zerotoleranceforsataniceli4794
      @zerotoleranceforsataniceli4794 2 роки тому +2

      @@CymruEmergencyResponder
      I wouldn't call business owners locals. I'd call them business owners.
      Why did a new boat house have to be built ?
      Why was the sea view considered more important than lives ?
      Who had the final say ?
      Were the locals asked what they preferred ie the people who live there and those who use the waters for work ?
      Just sounds corrupt with the decision being made upon lobbying ie by businesses.
      I

  • @WolfTheMartin
    @WolfTheMartin 5 років тому +6

    very interesting documentary... very sad to see people who care so much locally so disappointed

    • @thornwicktv
      @thornwicktv  5 років тому +2

      Hi Martin, yeah the passion is ingrained and it was sad to see brother fall out with cousin and rifts created. Its all water under the bridge now but definitely a dark time for the village.😀

  • @basshunter9030
    @basshunter9030 3 роки тому +5

    I remember there being a documentary broadcast on national television about the removal of the all weather lifeboat at Flamborough when I was a kid. I wonder if this was the one or if there was another?

  • @lindsaypeterholden2701
    @lindsaypeterholden2701 3 роки тому +3

    I remember my Father telling me about Mr.Emmerson when we were on Holiday in Flamborough in the 60's and seeing him many, many Years later selling Crabs and Fish up at bold North Landing.I bet he was a very interesting Man,what fine stories he would be able to tell.Did his family ever publish a Book? I would like to know more about him really,I presume,now,he has passed away? His He interred in ST.Oswald's Flamborough? I would like to visit his Grave.Regards.

  • @warewolf4760
    @warewolf4760 4 роки тому +5

    Great video, audio needs remastering though. I can do it for you if you like.

  • @andysaunders3708
    @andysaunders3708 3 роки тому +9

    Utterly alpalling, and at the same time, inevitable.
    "Executives" feathering their nests at all cost to anyone but them.
    My late step-dad was a memebr of RNLI, and was the bravest man I knew.
    He'd be spinning in his grave.
    Management, eh?
    Useless.

    • @andysaunders3708
      @andysaunders3708 11 місяців тому +2

      Sorry for my typos there.
      That's all I'll apologise for.

  • @markhunt2998
    @markhunt2998 8 місяців тому +2

    I’ve stopped donating after the Whitby Lifeboat fiasco and the RNLI’s recruitment policy. Illegal immigrants being taxied by them too.

  • @paulojorgemachado5116
    @paulojorgemachado5116 4 роки тому +4

    It's sad the RNLI have taken the off shore lifeboat, if they want to place a Atlantic 21they could but leave the off shore this way they could have the best of both worlds a fast life boat for when conditions permit and a off shore lifeboat for distant help and for when the sea conditions are too bad for the Atlantic 21.

  • @louisecoupland
    @louisecoupland Рік тому +4

    All about money not people's lives

  • @richardkelly5409
    @richardkelly5409 4 роки тому +4

    Officials extol the suitability of the ribs with its speed , THE RIBS ARE USELESS IN GALE FORCE WINDS AND SEAS , unless the crew are all suicidal .

  • @thatguyinelnorte
    @thatguyinelnorte 4 роки тому +4

    May God save England and restore her.

    • @thornwicktv
      @thornwicktv  4 роки тому +1

      Hi John, she's a museum piece now with a section of the hull removed as a cut away.

  • @philiphudson1547
    @philiphudson1547 Рік тому +3

    Been Of Flambourgh head in bad weather must say they have some guts sailing out in that rubber dingey

  • @lukeroche7331
    @lukeroche7331 4 роки тому +2

    nice

    • @thornwicktv
      @thornwicktv  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks for your comment Luke

  • @wayneash1979
    @wayneash1979 5 років тому +8

    I would love to know where this iconic boat is now

    • @thornwicktv
      @thornwicktv  5 років тому +2

      Hi Wayne, thanks for you're comment. Please click the subscribe button to see more content about Flamborough. Here's a link to where you can check out the old girl. John www.nationalhistoricships.org.uk/register/2181/will-and-fanny-kirby

    • @wayneash1979
      @wayneash1979 5 років тому +5

      This is the second video I’ve seen with Robert Emmerson in,what a guy,it’s such a shame the boat couldn’t have stayed at Flamborough,even if just to be viewed by the visitors,it obviously meant so much to the local community.

    • @thornwicktv
      @thornwicktv  5 років тому +3

      @@wayneash1979 Robert will live on in many a Flamborians memory.

    • @TrevBoston
      @TrevBoston 5 років тому +6

      She is preserved at the lifeboat museum at Chatham in Kent 😊

  • @AA-69
    @AA-69 Рік тому +12

    The RNLI is now a GOVERNMENT CHANNEL TAXI SERVICE ....Sold out for a handful of silver .

    • @columlennon
      @columlennon 8 місяців тому +4

      Em no their mandate is to save anyone at sea no matter who they are

  • @malakai651
    @malakai651 4 роки тому +2

    These men would have been on the life boat, been down the ramp and out to sea long before the very expensive high tech Bridlington boat of today. I find it absolutely ludicrous to watch, it cannot be any quicker to launch than it is to put away. Having watched them one evening I shudder to think of my life or anyone else's being at stake, but they did seem very proud of their pieces of kit!!!!!!!!!

    • @Mike-dn7oz
      @Mike-dn7oz 4 роки тому +3

      Bridlington has a totally different beach profile to Flamborough, they can’t just launch down a ramp into the sea. Plus that very expensive high tech boat is faster, better equipped and safer for crew and casualties than the Oakley in this video. Even if the Oakley was quicker to launch, it’s not the speed of the launch that matters, it’s the speed at which the lifeboat can reach the casualty, which the modern boats win hands down.

    • @malakai651
      @malakai651 4 роки тому +3

      @@Mike-dn7oz I would totally agree with you about the speed of these modern boats but that is just the problem, what is the point of having a wonderfully powerful fast boat if it takes for ever to launch. I know what you mean about the beach at Brid but I do think that not enough thought went into the speed of launching.

    • @zerotoleranceforsataniceli4794
      @zerotoleranceforsataniceli4794 3 роки тому +3

      There's less protection for the rescue crew on an inflatable - no cabin for starters.
      So as this film clip says, it can't be launched in all weathers - that's a huge drawback if you exist to save lives.
      No point in an empty RNLI boat at sea ( if your crew get knocked off by waves) , however fast it goes.

    • @malakai651
      @malakai651 3 роки тому

      @@zerotoleranceforsataniceli4794 it's not a question of a cabin, if they had a ramp from where the boat house is straight down on to the beach they could launch the life boat far quicker as it is they have to move it half way down the promenade before they can get on to the beach.

    • @zerotoleranceforsataniceli4794
      @zerotoleranceforsataniceli4794 3 роки тому +1

      @@malakai651
      Absolutely agree about the launching.
      If the new boat takes 8 or 10 mins to launch and depends on other equipment to get inflated & to the beach, whilst the old boat takes 2 minutes to launch, but is slower, then the new boat must make up at least 6 minutes to even catch up with the old boat.
      I think what was done was absolutely appalling and if the general public were aware of this and of the salaries ofvthe CEO, I think the support for RNLI would be seriously dented.
      I was in fact referring to the qualities of the new boat in that it appears to have no protection ie no sides & no cabin or any protection, hence the inability to go out in all storms, hence setting out now an agenda that actually saves less lives. This goes completely against the ethos that has been in place for centuries, I'm sure.
      The saving of the 29 aboard the Bonita in Dec 1981 could not be done now with the new inflatable boats.
      I think that is to the discredit, in fact, to the shame of the RNLI

  • @RT-np5ws
    @RT-np5ws Рік тому +1

    Local seafariers know local conditions
    They are THE best not hq

  • @matthewhood4810
    @matthewhood4810 5 років тому +2

    Just did like the change. Got to modernise and keep up with the times or lives would be lost. Find them very petty to strike and selfless.

    • @thornwicktv
      @thornwicktv  5 років тому +2

      No one likes change, fear of the unknown and traditional ways of doing things from Father to Son or daughter is a strong emotion, throw the possibility of loss of life into the mix it's an impossible thing to decide on for the best. At the time each faction had its own moral "lifeboat" to cling to.

  • @thedolphin5428
    @thedolphin5428 4 роки тому +1

    Omg, what horrible production. Melodramatic music, fake superimposed imagery. Clicked away at 0:30.

    • @thornwicktv
      @thornwicktv  4 роки тому +11

      Well it was 1992 - and it won awards at the time so thanks for your insightful comments.

    • @maurices5259
      @maurices5259 4 роки тому +5

      Superimposed yes - fake no. If you did not watch the whole piece then your comments are invalid. You have robbed yourself of an important piece of history
      and a moving insight into the people of Flamborough. It's your life so stay ignorant if you must.

    • @thedolphin5428
      @thedolphin5428 4 роки тому +1

      @@maurices5259
      Oh what a pompous arse you are.
      1. If you had ever written an article or a book or produced a video or a piece of music (as I have) you might know that the opening 30 seconds must captivate the reader/viewer/listener with its tone and authenticity. This, for me, did not. My right, my choice.
      2. I did not "rob myself" of anything. I simply chose not to view something which was only of curiosity value and of no practical value in my life to know.
      3. Watching only 30 seconds, disliking it, departing, and criticising the first 30 seconds IS a perfectly valid reality and obviously not a criticism of what I did not see. But, as in #1, I found the opening so vomituous and could therefore conclude its style would remain the same throughout.
      4. I am not British. Why does it make me "ignorant" to not know everything about the history of everywhere.
      5. You may like it. I did not. I said so. Get over it.

    • @wayneash1979
      @wayneash1979 3 роки тому +2

      @@thedolphin5428 with your experience in this field it would be great if you could do you research on this beautiful place & make a lovely video for us all.

    • @thedolphin5428
      @thedolphin5428 3 роки тому +2

      @@wayneash1979
      Oh, ho ho. Such a funny boy you are. Why is it that people today are soooo precious they just cannot accept to see/hear valid criticism anymore. No doubt you have opinions and things to say about your least favourite politicians, Wayne? So, is a sensible retort to that to ask "why don't you go and make a few laws, run a few government departments yourself". Do you not criticise things you can't do better? Ever shouted instructions at a footballer or a referee, Wayne? Not everything about everything is great, perfect, well done, stands the test of time, appeals to all people. WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM with reality? Get over other people not thinking just like you.