I am considering making a comparison video of all the formats. I would naturally start with a high quality original source, likely the HDV footage of my aquarium that I used on this one. or perhaps from 4K down sampled, or DV footage shot with my professional DV camera in SD. Whatever the source it will be very high quality, and then outputting as S-video to be recorded on SVHS, Hi-8, and digital 8, composite to be recorded on Betamax and VHS at the various speeds B1SHB, B2, B3 and VHS in the 3 VHS speeds, 8mm hi 8 in the 2 speeds. Same clip from same source and include 3/4" and 3/4" SP into the mix as well as Beta SP just like on this one, and then capture over composite, component and S video the various tapes played on regular VHS and SVHS decks ect and captured with my HD capture gear. This way all the formats can be compared to each other. I did this a few years ago to compare different devices. This one would compare the different video tape formats, showing how poor VHS was to Betamax, 8mm, ect at the different speeds. Punch a hole on a regular tape to force S VHS, ect. Might be interesting. Of course I would also record color bars from the camera as well. What do you guys think about that?
Very cool, nice to see the different formats and how they look. Betacam looks fantastic and honestly they all look great for analog video. Even the standard DV footage is still decent, but obviously HDV has many improvements. Great video!
Betacam SP was used well through the 80's and 90's mainly by news and current affairs field recording. Expensive Betacam SP dockable cameras, the camera "head" (lens and video process section) only, I was told in the 90's was at least $50,000. These heads could be docked with either the Betacam SP or Super VHS recorder back-end, worth quite a bit of money as well. The tripods they used were nearly $100,000. Can you imagine being a camera person back in those times carrying and using nearly $200,000 worth of equipment?! Edit: as for your cat, you saying "you're annoying", the cat's probably thinking, "yeah, but you love me!"
Yes you could record SVHS onto regular tape. Mileage varied depending on tape quality, especially at EP speed. JVC perfected this art with their SVHS ET machines which actually measured what the tape would record by doing a frequency sweep and tweaking the record to squeak the maximum quality out of a regular tape without over driving it. On the betacam however it is not about using a lower quality tape. The digital tapes were the opposite as they were the higher quality tapes. The detection holes were there to prevent accidentally wiping the master tape thinking it was blank. As the tapes were the same size a recorded digital tape would go in an analog player but the analog player wouldn't see anything other than perhaps a control track. There would be no picture, so the record inhibit switch (you could pull the tab down again to re-record) was moved so loading a digital tape into an analog machine prevented recording. Remember, Sony did exactly the same thing with BETACAM that they did with Digital 8. The DigiBeta recorders could play BETACAM and BETACAM SP analog tapes. The BETACAM SX which is a digital format could play analog tapes as well. So they safeguarded these tapes that may of found their way into an analog only machine from being accidentally recorded on. We don't need to have another studio disaster like what happened to the band Steely Dan back in the 70's. For those that don't know, the master session tape was accidentally wiped by a junior engineer that thought it was blank and recorded test tones over it. The tape had been set up for a playback session for the band and most of it wiped. Apparently that engineer never worked again, and the song was never re-recorded, as so much time had been put in that the band just walked away and said "fu*c it" (heard that on a music podcast) anyway that's the reason for the different location of the record lock switch, and the extra holes to prevent recording. I don't have any use for these tapes other than making a few test tapes for keeping my equipment running soI just recorded some of my content to them as they were blank.
Very good point Dave with saying if you don’t use it somewhere along the line of not using it something get stuck or break it’s getting on how old use them while you can !
Run a large and small tape through them say once a month to keep them working. Or repair them every time you need them. That's the choice. I am usually of the latter on these machines that see little use because I keep them in storage when not needed.
Heh, nobody remembers Panasonic's competitor to Betacam called M (oxide tape) and M2 (metal tape). Sony might have lost the home format war, but they absolutely crushed the broadcast market with Betacam. One other place that Betacam tapes can be used is in those extremely rare ED-Beta decks. Yeah, broadcast TV was limited to 4Mhz or so, but Sony had to one-up SVHS and record a ridiculous 9Mhz onto the luma channel with ED. All with that glorious sub 700Khz color under chroma track :P
Panasonic's M format and the later M2 formats were flops. Actually bigger flops in the professional world than Betamax was in the consumer world. The M format never worked properly. Likely due to the stress on the tape around the complicated M wrap and the high tape speeds. It was even faster than betacam. It wasn't for them not trying, but the failure rate was so high and the only network that used it initially was NBC, and that was only because of RCA's involvement and RCA's parent company GE just happened to own NBC. I read all about the dismal failure. Remember I was in the production business. My company used Betacam SP for our commercial work and we were very familiar with M2 because we did infomercials some clients requested the output in M2 because they were buying time on NBC affiliates that used it. I can't talk about exactly which of those infomercials we did because we had to sign NDA with the clients but we did a few of them over the years for various products. Some were really stupid products that were being hocked on TV. Small appliances, water purifiers, sunglasses you name it. My business partner didn't care, as long as their cheque didn't bounce. Anyway when we needed to output on M2 we just rented the recorder for a day and dumped the betacam tape over to M2 for the client, but I remember them always being temperamental. I was very happy to see them all disappear. Most of the pro gear we used we leased and when my business partner got sick (cancer) that was the end of that business venture. Sony stuck it to toshiba too with Bluray, vs their HD-DVD format. That was getting back at Toshiba for abandoning betamax for VHS LOL.
I always wanted that 12000 EDCAM, but i went the extra step for BETACAM for the business. ED recorded 500 lines it was super sharp but BETACAM SP still looked better. Again the full band color.
That was my daughter's expensive purebread cat. She moved and left it behind. Now when she visits the cat runs and hides. If the wife is around she attached herself to her but If wife isn't around she stalks me.
Now that I think about it, makes me sad that I tossed all those old tape recorders I had. I did give one to my two sons along with 8 or 9yrs worth of taped Chicago Bulls games when MJ was playing. The good old days. Advancements in technology may have its place but the more things change, the more they stay the same as evident by the return of cassette taped music and player/recorders. Nice video, interesting.
great video I still have my Sony DXC327B camera with the PVV-3 betacam SP deck also have the EVV-9000P Hi8 deck that for some reason kills the camera when docked and of course have the PVW-2800 editing deck for playback of the tapes
I would say the BVW-75 is the best deck for analog component video recording because the BVW series can do AFM audio. I got my BVW-75 for free and it works pretty much perfectly aside from one small issue with large tapes when rewinding. The BVW-D75 model adds SDI output directly off the digital TBC too. I've always considered the UVW series as cheap but I've never used one. I've had a PVW-2800 in the past but it doesn't have AFM audio. I also have an HDW-M2000 that can playback analog Betacam as well as Digital Betacam, Betacam SX, and HDCAM, but it will only record in HDCAM. It's a good deck that can playback the most formats for archiving.
The German version of Totally TV played TV clips with UVW recorders, which almost always had a dropout in the picture extrem shortly after the tape run started. I don't think the devices are suitable for digitization without a pre-run.
I have a BVW75 I need to get working properly. It's a work in progress. The AFM audio was added to the chroma video track because there was extra bandwidth available. They all have linear stereo with Dolby C. The AFM was good because you could cut your tapes with the native audio on afm and the dub audio in stereo on the linear or do a mix down of the afm audio with the effects or voice over and record the mix on the linear tracks.
The digital decks all played back the analog format. Same as Sony's digital 8 that plays back 8mm and Hi8. That's the thing with the standard. The parts are all exactly the same size so backwards compatibility is there. I have a betacam sx player that will play SP analog tape. The UVW series were the cheaper versions of the BVW series. AFM was an option added to the high end decks. It was never a standard, linear stereo is. The AFM tracks are actually audio 3 and 4. I will get my BVW75 working some day when I have time to spend on it. Too busy with what is on my plate these days. When I retire from the phone company I will have plenty of time to workon this. Also when my youngest moves out I will have a nice room inside that I can set up a workshop in the house where I will have room to get into some serious disassembly of it. He wants to move out, and I want him to go and get on with his life. Oldest moved out 3 years ago. Hell I was out and married at his age. (25). I am eyeing that nice big room that he has his video games in for a work shop, and the day he moves out I will be in there so bloody fast. (then my car can go back in the garage LOL)
@@12voltvids Not exactly true. There were cheaper models of the DigiBeta and HDCAM digital decks that couldn'r playback analog Betacam. For example I had a DVW-2000 which would reject any Betacam SP tape, it can't playback analog tapes. Same with the DVW-500 and HDW-2000. The DVW-M2000, DVW-A500, and HDW-M2000 however could playback the analog tapes. Not sure why they sold the models that couldn't playback analog, since they used the same chassis and parts like you said. My only guess is that additional video processing circuitry was required for the analog playback that cost more. Especially since they had to convert the analog signals to digital SDI. There were also cheaper Digital8 camcorders that couldn't playback the analog 8mm tapes.
@@TTVEaGMXde These tapes are all very long in the tooth these days. Betacam SP recorders stopped being made in 2001 and the tapes continued to be made for a few more years. The HD Beta (HDCAM) production ended in 2016. Home Betamax continued to be made untill 2002 with the last tapes for those made March 2016 (I have a sealed one from 2016)
*Can anyone advise , I have a Sanyo svhs 1991 midmount. I can't get power in the psu to the secondary side of the board , the primary side shows 230v (u.k) on multimeter It is separated by a transformer, I have replaced mostly all capacitor and diodes that were leaking but it still won't power up* 😢
@ I know, but Betacam is neither HD nor widescreen, Your media player squeezing 16:9 into 4:3 frame 720x480, The Betacam deck records it that way and plays it that way, your TV is stretching it horizontally restoring the original frame, this is how anamorphic DVD worked, 720x480 anamorphic. I use to record into VHS this way.
Except that it's not. No pixels on analog video. It records what i give it. When i recorded 4x3 content it played at the correct aspect. this was 16x9 hd video that i played out in 16x9.
@@12voltvids That’s my point, the Betacam records 4:3 analog and plays back 4:3 analog, your media player and your TV are doing the shrinking and stretching as I mentioned. I believe later on Digibeta supported 16:9 signaling flag, not sure though.
Hi, my DCR-TRV380 suddenly stopped giving an image, both on the screen and the viewfinder. It turns on and runs the tape and even records but the viewfinder and the screen are black. Even when I touch the touch screen it makes the beep =(
WOW I Have repaired thousands of VCR's. Many Betas, BUT I have NEVER seen one of these. I also Have Never seen a Beta tape that Large. Did they ever sold those in the US? I Remember when Sony came out with with the 8mm VCR. I thought that's a great Idea.
Betacam was the industry standard format for broadcast across the world. Panasonic tried to compete with their M and MII formats (based on VHS) but they failed miserably.
Digital Betacam tapes have smaller METAL particles than Betacam SP tapes. Even Betacam SP tapes that did not quite pass the quality control are sufficient for Betacam SX, since Betacam SX has error correction.
@@ConsumerDV The point was that the Betacam SP tapes that didn't quite pass quality control could still do a good job on Betacam SX. I read on the internet that Betacam SX cassettes contained Betacam SP tape. Because of the error correction, even second choice was sufficient.
@@TTVEaGMXde As you worded it, I understood that SX had error correction, while DigiBeta did not. But it obviously does, Sony's manual mentions "powerful error correction system". DV, which launched a couple of years after DigiBeta, had error detection, correction and concealment features, which allowed using basic 8-mm tape for Digital8 recordings.
usually with sticky situations like these (pun intended) the DC motor starts to fail and get weak. i have a old Magnavox blu ray player that had this issue with the tray opening and closing really slow, or not opening at all, thought it was a gear lubrication issue, but the motor was the cause. i replaced the motor all problems gone.
One more thing. If you try to record the same tape Beta sp for more than 5 times you will start noticing a few dropouts. Probably a digibeta tape recorded as Beta Sp won't start making dropouts after several recordings. I've never tested recording BetaSp on a Digibeta tape.
In un video di tre settimane fa hai risposto al commento di un tizio che diceva che usa il VHS e gli hai risposto che tu non lo usi,e non vedevi l'ora di sbarazzarti di quelle attrezzature,come mai in questo video dici che usi il VHS e il VIDEO8 tutti i giorni!?
I am in the business of archiving other peoples tapes. Thats why I have all this equipment. I have VHS / SVHS (NTSC PAL SECAM), Betamax (all speeds) BETACAM SP NTSC and PAL , BETACAM SX NTSC and PAL, 8mm/Hi8 NTSC and PAL, Digital 8 NTSC and PAL, MiniDV NTSC and pal, HDV NTSC and PAL, 3/4' Umatic SP. My machines are running every day I am here. The only time they are not running is when I am at work. For me it's a business, I do not use tape for any personal work and have not in at least 15 years and that was HDV the last time I shot anything on tape for anything other than testing equipment. I can not understand for 1 minute why anyone would want to record anything new on tape except for just testing equipment out.
@@12voltvids lo vedo dai video che è il tuo business,ma il punto è dov'è il problema,il VHS in ambito video è una delle più grandi passioni,che ho io per primo,infatti ho una collezione enorme di videoregistratori e videocassette,li ho sempre avuti e usati e continuo e continuerò sempre a usarli,non esiste il problema,te lo dico perchè ti chiedi il perchè si continua a usare la videocassetta,perchè il VHS è una passione che si ha da sempre
VHS and consumer Beta are cobalt-doped ferric oxide, sometimes chromium oxide. The consumer ED Beta format uses metal tape, as do the 8mm and DV formats.
I am considering making a comparison video of all the formats. I would naturally start with a high quality original source, likely the HDV footage of my aquarium that I used on this one. or perhaps from 4K down sampled, or DV footage shot with my professional DV camera in SD. Whatever the source it will be very high quality, and then outputting as S-video to be recorded on SVHS, Hi-8, and digital 8, composite to be recorded on Betamax and VHS at the various speeds B1SHB, B2, B3 and VHS in the 3 VHS speeds, 8mm hi 8 in the 2 speeds. Same clip from same source and include 3/4" and 3/4" SP into the mix as well as Beta SP just like on this one, and then capture over composite, component and S video the various tapes played on regular VHS and SVHS decks ect and captured with my HD capture gear. This way all the formats can be compared to each other. I did this a few years ago to compare different devices. This one would compare the different video tape formats, showing how poor VHS was to Betamax, 8mm, ect at the different speeds. Punch a hole on a regular tape to force S VHS, ect. Might be interesting. Of course I would also record color bars from the camera as well. What do you guys think about that?
Sounds good sir!
Very cool, nice to see the different formats and how they look. Betacam looks fantastic and honestly they all look great for analog video. Even the standard DV footage is still decent, but obviously HDV has many improvements. Great video!
Thanks for the ref videos - Nice to see Analog back in action and yes colour was great
especially off this format.
Excellent picture from the hdv sources. Hdv in itself was quite a good format for early hd footage
Betacam SP was used well through the 80's and 90's mainly by news and current affairs field recording. Expensive Betacam SP dockable cameras, the camera "head" (lens and video process section) only, I was told in the 90's was at least $50,000. These heads could be docked with either the Betacam SP or Super VHS recorder back-end, worth quite a bit of money as well. The tripods they used were nearly $100,000. Can you imagine being a camera person back in those times carrying and using nearly $200,000 worth of equipment?! Edit: as for your cat, you saying "you're annoying", the cat's probably thinking, "yeah, but you love me!"
Yes don't remind me. My original BETACAM was the price of a nice car. I still have and use the mabfrotto sticks and 116 head. It was over 3,000.00
Reminds me of me punching holes on VHS tapes to make them record in S-VHS mode. I did that recently with a TDK HD-X Pro tape and it worked fine.
Yes you could record SVHS onto regular tape. Mileage varied depending on tape quality, especially at EP speed. JVC perfected this art with their SVHS ET machines which actually measured what the tape would record by doing a frequency sweep and tweaking the record to squeak the maximum quality out of a regular tape without over driving it. On the betacam however it is not about using a lower quality tape. The digital tapes were the opposite as they were the higher quality tapes. The detection holes were there to prevent accidentally wiping the master tape thinking it was blank. As the tapes were the same size a recorded digital tape would go in an analog player but the analog player wouldn't see anything other than perhaps a control track.
There would be no picture, so the record inhibit switch (you could pull the tab down again to re-record) was moved so loading a digital tape into an analog machine prevented recording. Remember, Sony did exactly the same thing with BETACAM that they did with Digital 8. The DigiBeta recorders could play BETACAM and BETACAM SP analog tapes. The BETACAM SX which is a digital format could play analog tapes as well. So they safeguarded these tapes that may of found their way into an analog only machine from being accidentally recorded on.
We don't need to have another studio disaster like what happened to the band Steely Dan back in the 70's.
For those that don't know, the master session tape was accidentally wiped by a junior engineer that thought it was blank and recorded test tones over it. The tape had been set up for a playback session for the band and most of it wiped. Apparently that engineer never worked again, and the song was never re-recorded, as so much time had been put in that the band just walked away and said "fu*c it" (heard that on a music podcast) anyway that's the reason for the different location of the record lock switch, and the extra holes to prevent recording. I don't have any use for these tapes other than making a few test tapes for keeping my equipment running soI just recorded some of my content to them as they were blank.
Very interesting. I enjoyed watching this.
Very good point Dave with saying if you don’t use it somewhere along the line of not using it something get stuck or break it’s getting on how old use them while you can !
Run a large and small tape through them say once a month to keep them working. Or repair them every time you need them. That's the choice. I am usually of the latter on these machines that see little use because I keep them in storage when not needed.
There's a CINE AV in Edmonton, might be the same company... I bought tape from them 30 years ago. lol.
Heh, nobody remembers Panasonic's competitor to Betacam called M (oxide tape) and M2 (metal tape). Sony might have lost the home format war, but they absolutely crushed the broadcast market with Betacam. One other place that Betacam tapes can be used is in those extremely rare ED-Beta decks. Yeah, broadcast TV was limited to 4Mhz or so, but Sony had to one-up SVHS and record a ridiculous 9Mhz onto the luma channel with ED. All with that glorious sub 700Khz color under chroma track :P
Panasonic's M format and the later M2 formats were flops. Actually bigger flops in the professional world than Betamax was in the consumer world.
The M format never worked properly. Likely due to the stress on the tape around the complicated M wrap and the high tape speeds. It was even faster than betacam. It wasn't for them not trying, but the failure rate was so high and the only network that used it initially was NBC, and that was only because of RCA's involvement and RCA's parent company GE just happened to own NBC. I read all about the dismal failure. Remember I was in the production business. My company used Betacam SP for our commercial work and we were very familiar with M2 because we did infomercials some clients requested the output in M2 because they were buying time on NBC affiliates that used it. I can't talk about exactly which of those infomercials we did because we had to sign NDA with the clients but we did a few of them over the years for various products. Some were really stupid products that were being hocked on TV. Small appliances, water purifiers, sunglasses you name it. My business partner didn't care, as long as their cheque didn't bounce. Anyway when we needed to output on M2 we just rented the recorder for a day and dumped the betacam tape over to M2 for the client, but I remember them always being temperamental. I was very happy to see them all disappear. Most of the pro gear we used we leased and when my business partner got sick (cancer) that was the end of that business venture. Sony stuck it to toshiba too with Bluray, vs their HD-DVD format. That was getting back at Toshiba for abandoning betamax for VHS LOL.
I always wanted that 12000 EDCAM, but i went the extra step for BETACAM for the business. ED recorded 500 lines it was super sharp but BETACAM SP still looked better. Again the full band color.
that's a beautiful cat. Clearly she loves you.
That was my daughter's expensive purebread cat. She moved and left it behind. Now when she visits the cat runs and hides. If the wife is around she attached herself to her but If wife isn't around she stalks me.
Now that I think about it, makes me sad that I tossed all those old tape recorders I had. I did give one to my two sons along with 8 or 9yrs worth of taped Chicago Bulls games when MJ was playing. The good old days. Advancements in technology may have its place but the more things change, the more they stay the same as evident by the return of cassette taped music and player/recorders. Nice video, interesting.
I recorded the Inauguration today with my VCR that I keep up and running with your fine tips. So Proud!
great video I still have my Sony DXC327B camera with the PVV-3 betacam SP deck also have the EVV-9000P Hi8 deck that for some reason kills the camera when docked and of course have the PVW-2800 editing deck for playback of the tapes
I would say the BVW-75 is the best deck for analog component video recording because the BVW series can do AFM audio. I got my BVW-75 for free and it works pretty much perfectly aside from one small issue with large tapes when rewinding. The BVW-D75 model adds SDI output directly off the digital TBC too. I've always considered the UVW series as cheap but I've never used one. I've had a PVW-2800 in the past but it doesn't have AFM audio.
I also have an HDW-M2000 that can playback analog Betacam as well as Digital Betacam, Betacam SX, and HDCAM, but it will only record in HDCAM. It's a good deck that can playback the most formats for archiving.
The German version of Totally TV played TV clips with UVW recorders, which almost always had a dropout in the picture extrem shortly after the tape run started. I don't think the devices are suitable for digitization without a pre-run.
I have a BVW75 I need to get working properly. It's a work in progress. The AFM audio was added to the chroma video track because there was extra bandwidth available. They all have linear stereo with Dolby C. The AFM was good because you could cut your tapes with the native audio on afm and the dub audio in stereo on the linear or do a mix down of the afm audio with the effects or voice over and record the mix on the linear tracks.
The digital decks all played back the analog format. Same as Sony's digital 8 that plays back 8mm and Hi8. That's the thing with the standard. The parts are all exactly the same size so backwards compatibility is there. I have a betacam sx player that will play SP analog tape. The UVW series were the cheaper versions of the BVW series. AFM was an option added to the high end decks. It was never a standard, linear stereo is. The AFM tracks are actually audio 3 and 4. I will get my BVW75 working some day when I have time to spend on it. Too busy with what is on my plate these days. When I retire from the phone company I will have plenty of time to workon this. Also when my youngest moves out I will have a nice room inside that I can set up a workshop in the house where I will have room to get into some serious disassembly of it. He wants to move out, and I want him to go and get on with his life. Oldest moved out 3 years ago. Hell I was out and married at his age. (25). I am eyeing that nice big room that he has his video games in for a work shop, and the day he moves out I will be in there so bloody fast. (then my car can go back in the garage LOL)
@@12voltvids Not exactly true. There were cheaper models of the DigiBeta and HDCAM digital decks that couldn'r playback analog Betacam. For example I had a DVW-2000 which would reject any Betacam SP tape, it can't playback analog tapes. Same with the DVW-500 and HDW-2000.
The DVW-M2000, DVW-A500, and HDW-M2000 however could playback the analog tapes. Not sure why they sold the models that couldn't playback analog, since they used the same chassis and parts like you said. My only guess is that additional video processing circuitry was required for the analog playback that cost more. Especially since they had to convert the analog signals to digital SDI.
There were also cheaper Digital8 camcorders that couldn't playback the analog 8mm tapes.
@@TTVEaGMXde These tapes are all very long in the tooth these days. Betacam SP recorders stopped being made in 2001 and the tapes continued to be made for a few more years. The HD Beta (HDCAM) production ended in 2016. Home Betamax continued to be made untill 2002 with the last tapes for those made March 2016 (I have a sealed one from 2016)
Your fish have been immortalized
That was the general idea.
Yeah that playback quality looks mint. It looks like the fish tank is there now.
hi you are very right all that you are saying
i do check gear as i am using it you are right about the holes in the tapes
*Can anyone advise , I have a Sanyo svhs 1991 midmount. I can't get power in the psu to the secondary side of the board , the primary side shows 230v (u.k) on multimeter It is separated by a transformer, I have replaced mostly all capacitor and diodes that were leaking but it still won't power up* 😢
Nice anamorphic recording. Reminds me of widescreen DVD.
The wise screen stuff was shot on hd.
@ I know, but Betacam is neither HD nor widescreen, Your media player squeezing 16:9 into 4:3 frame 720x480, The Betacam deck records it that way and plays it that way, your TV is stretching it horizontally restoring the original frame, this is how anamorphic DVD worked, 720x480 anamorphic. I use to record into VHS this way.
Except that it's not. No pixels on analog video. It records what i give it. When i recorded 4x3 content it played at the correct aspect. this was 16x9 hd video that i played out in 16x9.
@@12voltvids That’s my point, the Betacam records 4:3 analog and plays back 4:3 analog, your media player and your TV are doing the shrinking and stretching as I mentioned. I believe later on Digibeta supported 16:9 signaling flag, not sure though.
Hi, my DCR-TRV380 suddenly stopped giving an image, both on the screen and the viewfinder. It turns on and runs the tape and even records but the viewfinder and the screen are black. Even when I touch the touch screen it makes the beep =(
WOW I Have repaired thousands of VCR's. Many Betas, BUT I have NEVER seen one of these. I also Have Never seen a Beta tape that Large. Did they ever sold those in the US? I Remember when Sony came out with with the 8mm VCR. I thought that's a great Idea.
Betacam was the industry standard format for broadcast across the world. Panasonic tried to compete with their M and MII formats (based on VHS) but they failed miserably.
Digital Betacam tapes have smaller METAL particles than Betacam SP tapes. Even Betacam SP tapes that did not quite pass the quality control are sufficient for Betacam SX, since Betacam SX has error correction.
Yes. BETACAM SX was the last generation before HD and was very good.
DigiBeta did not have error correction? Interesting.
@@ConsumerDV The point was that the Betacam SP tapes that didn't quite pass quality control could still do a good job on Betacam SX. I read on the internet that Betacam SX cassettes contained Betacam SP tape. Because of the error correction, even second choice was sufficient.
@@TTVEaGMXde As you worded it, I understood that SX had error correction, while DigiBeta did not. But it obviously does, Sony's manual mentions "powerful error correction system". DV, which launched a couple of years after DigiBeta, had error detection, correction and concealment features, which allowed using basic 8-mm tape for Digital8 recordings.
@ Digital8 was only available on Hi8 tapes in Germany. However, the tape speed may have been different than with NTSC due to the PAL drive.
Digibeta tape formulation is different from Beta sp tape. It was an improvement.
Yes it was a higher quality tape but it works fine for less demanding analog.
usually with sticky situations like these (pun intended) the DC motor starts to fail and get weak. i have a old Magnavox blu ray player that had this issue with the tray opening and closing really slow, or not opening at all, thought it was a gear lubrication issue, but the motor was the cause. i replaced the motor all problems gone.
20:29 pretty good quality
One more thing. If you try to record the same tape Beta sp for more than 5 times you will start noticing a few dropouts. Probably a digibeta tape recorded as Beta Sp won't start making dropouts after several recordings. I've never tested recording BetaSp on a Digibeta tape.
All tape starts to pick up dropout when multiple recording. Hi8 was good for 1 recording.
hi have a cat like that she sit in her space in the work shop you are right betacam is very good
Can u continue story bit and do U matic 3/4 and some story about it and quality of audio and video thank you.
In un video di tre settimane fa hai risposto al commento di un tizio che diceva che usa il VHS e gli hai risposto che tu non lo usi,e non vedevi l'ora di sbarazzarti di quelle attrezzature,come mai in questo video dici che usi il VHS e il VIDEO8 tutti i giorni!?
I am in the business of archiving other peoples tapes. Thats why I have all this equipment. I have VHS / SVHS (NTSC PAL SECAM), Betamax (all speeds) BETACAM SP NTSC and PAL , BETACAM SX NTSC and PAL, 8mm/Hi8 NTSC and PAL, Digital 8 NTSC and PAL, MiniDV NTSC and pal, HDV NTSC and PAL, 3/4' Umatic SP. My machines are running every day I am here. The only time they are not running is when I am at work. For me it's a business, I do not use tape for any personal work and have not in at least 15 years and that was HDV the last time I shot anything on tape for anything other than testing equipment. I can not understand for 1 minute why anyone would want to record anything new on tape except for just testing equipment out.
@@12voltvids lo vedo dai video che è il tuo business,ma il punto è dov'è il problema,il VHS in ambito video è una delle più grandi passioni,che ho io per primo,infatti ho una collezione enorme di videoregistratori e videocassette,li ho sempre avuti e usati e continuo e continuerò sempre a usarli,non esiste il problema,te lo dico perchè ti chiedi il perchè si continua a usare la videocassetta,perchè il VHS è una passione che si ha da sempre
I think the Sony D1 is the largest video cassette ever made, I could be wrong.
Ever held a 2-hour D2 cassette? Those things are comically huge.
@@CantankerousDave D1 is probably larger, isn’t it?
D1 uses a 3/4" tape similar to UMatic.
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I thought all video tape was metal?
VHS and consumer Beta are cobalt-doped ferric oxide, sometimes chromium oxide. The consumer ED Beta format uses metal tape, as do the 8mm and DV formats.
hi there is a place he get's alot of tapes alot of the time fee tape if i pay shipping costs that's all i have 100@s of new sealed tapes