Ditto. I just put that quote into a blog post I'm using for professional purposes. Its exactly what you better be thinking when you learn something new and pivot your career.
@Rob Ron Washington, went on the lead the Texas Rangers to consecutive World Series appearances in 2010 and 2011, is the winningest manager in Rangers history. He had to resign due to personal issues (marital and substance abuse issues) from the Rangers, but made his way back into the league and was the 3rd base coach for the Braves when they won the 2021 World Series.
Then he went on to play 7 more years and have a full career. A good story. According to Wikipedia, Scott Hatteberg is the only player in MLB history to hit into a triple play and hit a grand slam in his next at-bat. The bat he used for that game is now in the National Baseball Hall of Fame.
Hitting into a triple play is rare; you’ve either got slow runners or it’s right at a baseman covering the bag that then makes a throw to another base for another out, maybe on a hit and run call with zero outs trying to move two runners into scoring position.
This is a GREAT moment in the movie. One moment you're thinking all your dreams are over, wondering how you're gonna pay the bills, feed your family and then Billy Bean offers you a job.
The beauty of Moneyball. Giving the underdog the opportunity because they truly deserved the opportunity instead of giving opportunities to people that are getting them based on flawed and biased reasoning.
Best line in this wonderful movie and probably one of the best lines of any baseball movie. Saw Chris Chamblis pick up a short hop at Shea Stadium in 1974 and the man was a master at first base
"It isn't that hard. Tell him, Wash." "It's incredibly hard." "Hey, anything worth doing is." They way Billy doesn't miss a beat when Wash contradicts him makes me laugh out loud every time. 😄
I cry every time I see the hug at the end of the scene. That is a hug that is shedding tons of stress, depression and anxiety from a husband and father.
I think the same thing every time. This movie does a good job at treating people like stats, while also giving glimpses of humanity. That's not easy to balance.
@@vazquezb2011 Nahh Michael's got it right. Especially because that whole concept is highlighted later in the film. He IS, by nature, concerned for these guys, that's precisely why he can't get involved with one of the many guy's on his roster's life story when he's not even sure he's going to sign him. Think about it, can you actually imagine the character saying your hypothetical quote in the movie??? It's pretty out of character. No hate btw...
Too true. Such a subtle piece of characterization in the script, played w understated (yet fully realized) subtext by Pitt. Little "throwaway" lines like this, performed with such a complete concept in mind of just who the guy is/why he's saying what he's saying are the reason BP finally got an Oscar nom
He showed integrity when he was honest about his arm. His first thoughts were about continuing his lifelong dream and the need to provide for his family, but almost immediately he realized it wouldn't have lasted and came clean. That part of the scene was a model of humility and integrity.
That little hug at the end between Scott and his family was such a tug at the heart strings, when a player is injured it could mean their career and we can see it in Scott's demeanor, he was sad because he knows his career is over and he wouldn't know what to do and for Billy to give him a chance really made that hug at the end all the more powerful because he knows he can take care of his family doing what he loves
It also shows the power of music in films. The music at the scene's opening is wistful and melancholy and this tells us (along with Scott's demeanor) how he is feeling. The same music plays at the end, and while it is still a lament for what has been lost, it's calmness also tells us that Scott is feeling relaxed because he knows his family will be provided for. It's a great scene for many reasons.
He went from career earnings of $2.5 million and a finished career after Boston to go to make another $11.5 million because of Billy Beane. Not sure how accurate this scene is, but Beane literally saved this man’s life.
I'm not sure how serious you're being here. An otherwise healthy young man who had already earned $2.5 million and his life would have literally been over if he had to quit baseball?
@@Fordham1969 Taxes and agent commissions are very high, close to $1M on $2.5M salary. A lot of athletes don't end up with much at the end of their careers.
@@jgoog7442 I understand that, and I have no doubt if his career had ended there it would have been a profound disappointment. I was reacting to the OP suggesting that his life was "literally saved", as though a healthy 32 year old with pro baseball experience and 3 years of college couldn't have found a way of making a decent living.
This is funny since at the time Chris Pratt was almost nobody so the studio got him for a steal. Now he is a valuable commodity. They pulled a move out of sabermetrics.
You guys sleep on Parks and Recreation. Since that show began in 2009. Beside CP already gained traction in Hollywood with his supporting role in Wanted (2008), Jennifer's Body & Brides War (2009)
The "you got kids" line is such a great line. You can feel the vulnerability in Pratt and Pitt trying not to get personal with a player. Very nicely directed/acted moment.
A tiny part of all that went on in this great scene, but grabbing the cookie and taking a bite on his way out was a classy move. That wasn't out of hunger. He wanted to acknowledge the generosity/hospitality of his wife. It's the little things..
At the 2:49 mark, I like how Billy Beane leaves the house eating some of the snacks that Scott Hatteberg's wife provided them. Very believable. It was a nice sign of gratitude and goodwill by both sides.
@@shrapnel77 Huh? That's like saying "it's a sunny day" and somebody responds with "it was rainy two years ago on a Saturday". You don't think this took place in the 50s or 60s right?
A well directed scene. The wife is reconciling the bills at the dining room table to set the mood, His body language speaks defeat. The Christmas decorations on the fireplace. The little daughter walks in the room to bring home a sense of innocence and obligations. "Do you have kids?" "Yeah, a daughter". The pace moves like an opera. Then at the end there is the family hug to bring closure to the scene. Wonderful. Oh, and no swear words.
The more I study this scene, the greater I think it is. So much is conveyed just through the visual: the wife in the kitchen forlornly paying bills, the husband watching tv wondering what's next in his life, the daughter's doll tucked under a pillow on the sofa, the wife hurriedly but composed bringing out Christmas cookies, the family sharing a lifeline saving hug at the end.
There's an interesting leadership aspect here in the way Billy talks to Scott. He cuts right to the chase about the elbow damage and what it means, and then offers him the contract just as directly. He's making clear that he has no illusions about the drawback, and the potential difficulties of transitioning him to a new position. At the same time, he's showing that he recognizes and values what Scott can still bring to the team (his high OBP) enough to sign him in spite of those negatives. It's a similar dynamic in the later scene with David Justice, when he tells him "I'm not paying you for the player you used to be, I'm paying you for the player you are right now." He's telling David that he didn't just sign him to take a flyer on David somehow turning back the clock to become a superstar again, where anything less would be a disappointment. He's saying that he recognizes and values the ability that David does still have enough to pay the (albeit lesser) money for it, in order to get his buy-in on the direction he's trying to take the team.
I think the more relevant part of the Justice exchange is that he tells Justice his old team his paying half his contract to the As . That's motivating, that your old team thinks you're so bad they're paying for you to play against them
True.....his portrayal of Hatteberg in this brief scene is extremely well done...portraying a man trying to appear cool and collected while inwardly tormented about his playing days likely coming to an end...movie well done..even seems to show his wife looking over (unpaid?) bills.
2:39: Just look at Scott's expression here. The awe, the relief. There is no Chris Pratt in this scene, there's just a worn-out, worried ex-player who's been given one chance. Then when Billy stands, Scott stands up and watch how his eyes go straight to his wife, the person he wants to make proud the most. Even when Scott is saying goodbye, look how he's holding his nervous hands, fingers twitching with nervous energy, with the thumb tucked in like he forgot how to hold his composure with the great news. And the hug with his family at the end seals the deal on this scene. This scene pops into my head once in a while because of how moving it is. Edit: also noticing two more things. When Scott is asked how his arm is going, he tells the truth, to the detriment of his family, finances, etc. Secondly, when Scott's daughter comes running out, Brad Pitt's character (who has a daughter from a divorce) immediately grabs the contract and hands it over. My thinking is, he can't save his own marriage after the fact. But he can save Scotts.
Hatteberg was who they wanted. They just wanted to see his reactions. The daughter had nothing to do with it. The dignity, integrity, honesty, and courage, did
The hug at the end of the scene is great cause at the start we can see how financially toasted the family is. Scott sitting catatonic in his living room - his wife looks like she's trying to sort out overdue bills at the table while she's worried about her husband.
Not gonna lie I’ve lived this moment. I was stuck at a job I hated with a malicious manager and applying everywhere I could for anything just to get away and not go broke. One demoralizing non-response rejection after another when out of nowhere I’m called by a recruiter who heard about me through a professional connection I made once offering me a job to a position I didn’t even apply for. It’s a great feeling.
Well, he made a million bucks the season his contract expired, so....is it really the same? lol. That little bit of information is left out of this scene. I mean you feel bad for him, but at the same time he's been making anywhere between 10 to 20 times what a normal person makes.
I lost my job two years ago, 2 weeks before Christmas. There’s a feeling of desperation and helplessness. Not knowing what you’re gonna do. That last hug gets to me every time I see it, because there’s hope again.
amanrob I thought the same. Was out of work for a few weeks, but had never happened before. Was I getting too old? Doubts, anxiety... And that was without family or mortgage. Great scene, great movie.
The way he embraces his family after always gets me. It's a moment of, "we've been saved!" A ball player with what seems like nothing left - being brought back to do what he loves.
His wife sending in the kid to secure sympathy was a calculated and strategic move. We should all be so lucky to have a wife like that. /s!!!!!! this is a joke people seriously Edit: what I have learned from the comments to this obvious joke is that a lot of you have lived very hard lives and for that you have my sympathy. 😔
unfortunately nowadays majority women are expecting all to be served on table.... harsh times are for majority again of them are no go - immediately asking for divorce.....
@@solomoniuss7756 I wouldn't say a majority. Maybe it changes after marriage but the majority of women I've dated are always eager to please and help out. But agajn maybe it changes after marriage. I wouldn't know
Especially as we see in the very beginning of this scene that she is at a table in the other room, presumably doing bills, and he is in the other room looking depressed in the chair.
what i like here is that the moment his daughter runs in is the moment billy makes the final call to offer the contract. the key is the connection haddy and billy have made is enough to trust they will act the same in similar situations.
Brent Jennings as A's coach Ron Washington just nailed his deadpan delivery here. He makes this scene hilarious, while underlining to the audience how much of a change this really is.
One minute she's figuring out how they are going to manage with all the debt they have, the next he's got a second career starting and they are happy and relieved at the same time...I love this scene.
@@geofffalbo5900 True true, most of that $2.4m was his last 2 years before he joined Oakland as well. You are right, he's not going to be broke overnight. That said, even if the filmmakers took some artistic licence with the scene, I love the scene though. I can imagine if not Hatteberg, every offseason in the MLB, NBA, NFL or any other sport there will be some minimum salary fringe roster guy who's probably facing an uncertain future and got a family to support. Getting a lifeline is a big deal and I thought they reflected that in the scene perfectly.
@@bigheadache What people don't realize is that ballplayers' career is not very long. So, if they get injured and it shortens their already short career, it's a problem. Then you have to count how much of the $2.4 M remain after taxes. And worst of all, people tend to have a lifestyle commensurate with making the $ they made in their best year, as if they are going to keep making that money every year for the rest of their life! Add a wife who does not work outside the home, and a daughter, and methinks that $2.4 million would not last that long, and he was probably thinking about selling the house and getting a much smaller and cheaper one to cut down the monthly expenses and cash outflow.
@@geofffalbo5900 50% tax rate in Cali and with no future in any other business I'd be worrying about what I was going to do at age 32. He made around 10 million the rest of his career which may have been zero without the A's.
@@stockvaluedotcom Honestly I wouldn't mind if the taxes kept going up in bluer states, in Europe soccer players avoid playing in countries like Spain or Italy due to insane taxes, maybe small market teams would be able to sign more high tier free agents you know?
I had something like this happen to me once. I had been applying for jobs all week and had pretty much given up. I was desperate for work but there was nothing to be found. I stopped off at a local bar and shot pool with the owner all afternoon. The place was empty so we just played pool and shot the shit. He asked me my name and the next day I was offered a job and at a manufacturing plant with good pay and benefits. It turns out that the owner of the bar was also the owner of the plant. I was married with three little boys. You can never forget what it's like to be saved out of the blue. That's why I like this scene.
so happy for you and thank you for taking time to share your similar story. I am not sure if I have experienced that exact thing, but it warms my heart to read about people giving a second chance and they actually making use of that second chance. God bless you and your family.
The93Vector Naah. There’s a lot more to it than that. You’ve got to be able to find the bag with your back foot while watching everything else around you. And you just can’t pick it up after so many years of doing it in the bigs.
@@SageOftheSubway this isn’t true. Guys that can hit but can’t field anymore get converted from their natural positions to first base all the time. It’s the easiest position to play by a mile.
I think what a lot of people fail to see about this scene is that it is meant to be contrasted with Beane's recollection of the classic "scouts bullshitting a young player and his parents" experience.
It's just one of many scenes in a movie which I agree is excellent but that are entirely fictitious. Nobody bullshitted Billy Mr Sliderule wouldn't have drafted him in the 9th round he had all the ability he just didn't have the mental strength to transition to the pros.
I Love all the scouts trying to spend money they don’t have. Billy sets them straight, knowing the budget they had. They wanted to shop at Tiffany and Billy knew they could only afford the dollar general store.
I don't think money will help when you have done some 25 years work for you dream to be in MLB and that dream you are living is just taken from you. Most professional athletes don't do it for money. They do it because they love it. Money is benefit.
I really like how Scott shows them how scared and nervous he is to play first base, but then immediately reminds himself when his daughter shows up, that he is a family man and must provide for his family. It's a great scene for anyone that receives that opportunity and has to take it to better the lives of those around you.
Can imagine what it must of felt like, worried about the future for you and your family and then get the best news you could have ever gotten at the worst of times
It's a screenplay by Aaron Sorkin. There are no improvised lines - and if one happens to make the final cut, it's incredibly rare that it's better than Sorkin's original. Every last breath and stammer is scripted, just like any script from the Coen brothers or John Patrick Shanley. No actor would dare question Sorkin on his choices - he's the best in the business.
The way he hugged his wife and daughter at the end was simple yet said so much. Sometimes when life is kicking you in the nuts something wonderful and unexpected happens that changes everything and that's what that hug was all about
The cinematography in this scene is top notch… the shot of Hatteberg’s wife… Hatteberg watching TV… the final shot of Hatteberg hugging his family…truly an excellent film
This scene is a movie of its own. The (strained) relationship husband-wife, the emotions displayed through the start of the scene, the pretense, the disclosure, the hopelessness, the rising hope, a Hope and a New Start at the end.
Line that sicks with me the most from this movie I s the scout in the beginning. "Everyone is told we can no longer play the childs game, some when we are 40 some at 18.. but we are all told."
@@mikeway2223 I know society keeps telling you it's okay to be a pussy - and it is okay... but it's nobody's preference. Harden up cupcake, it's just a movie.
Chris Pratt described how he initially was told in his first audition for the role of Hatteberg that he was "too fat". Pratt took three months to work out and shed 30 pounds, which ultimately led to him winning the role.
This might be my favorite scene. It shows a guy who appears to be at his end getting the reboot many, many players pray for. And they tossed in some lighthearted humor ("maybe I can teach one of them"). Steven Zaillian and Aaron Sorkin is a deadly duo for a screenplay!
Gotta say - As someone involved in baseball professionally this is one of the most accurate and well written scenes of how dialogues like this take place. Fantastic!
@@AD-df5tm OK bud lol.. Not talking about showing up at houses. Talking about the dialogue between coaches, players, etc. READ WHAT I WROTE lol Understand what "dialogue" means lol
@@dperl5640 Hot Dogs and Peanuts by any chance maybe Crackerjack? Thanks for the comments. Also I know a local guy named Bruce the Beer guy. He is at all the major sporting events, even out of state events I see him. He is most respected by the fans.
It blows my mind how much I love this movie. I watch all these scenes (again & again) when they turn up. I've watched the whole movie many times. Not because I love Brad Pitt & Jonah Hill, not because Billy Beane was a classmate of mine in my hs. Plus, I'm not a big fan of baseball, however I love movies about baseball! This film is understated but almost every scene is gripping, inspired and subtly funny. The images & acting in this one are so good, packed with so much information.
A classic Sorkin script, well directed and well acted. I know nothing about baseball (though I could bore you all day with cricket statistics) but you don't have to to recognise this as one of the best sport movies ever.
Best part to me of this scene is the out of the blue unannounced drop by at his house. As a player who is scared his career is over, it gives him renewed confidence and supreme loyalty to an organization.
The moment at 2:30 when his wife picks his daughter up and smiles at him before leaving the room. She realizes that his career has been saved before he even does. That’s such a well done moment in this film that most seem to miss.
Can I ask how you took that from it? I got the sense that she doesn't know much about baseball and just supports her husband. She put down the bills to bring out snacks so they could entertain guests when they dropped in on him, and fished away their kid when she got out of bed to see what was going on. You know she was probably listening when the visitors told her husband they were handing him an unsigned contract, but she seemed like she had his back whatever was going on with the meeting.
@@brettzforeman I think you're both reading a whole hell of a lot into a 3 second clip of acting from a C-rated actress whose sole job is to grab a child in front of Brad Pitt and Chris Pratt.
The daughter coming out is such a perfect touch, because it was a seamless transition to a family hug after the great news. Whoever made that creative decision, raise their pay!
Also reminded Billy of his own daughter and how much it means to Scott and his family. If you watch Brad Pitt does a subtle pause before saying, "yeah a daughter" very quickly while distracting him with the contract to be a part of another family. It shows that he understands he should be with his daughter that day.
I don't understand how this clip has over 800 dislikes..an athlete that thinks it's over and a wife worried about the bills..a daughter sleeping in the next room and BB calls...the best scene in the movie
Eh, it's probably for some dumb reason. Although I'll throw some thoughts out for fun. As a philosophical study, nothing more. I love this scene like everyone else does. But it's a movie, casting a likeable charismatic guy with witty dialogue to give a lifeline to another likeable charismatic guy. In real life, Scott Hattefield is in the top .01% of the top .1% He probably made a fortune, spent his life being worshipped and running through cheerleaders and all the girls you had a crush on. He spent his life traveling and seeing his country and being with his broes. It's hard to reconcile that knowledge with this cutesy scene
ah...actually, it was "wash" as in Gene Washington coach of the Oakland A's, who played himself in the movie and would later MANAGE the Texas Rangers in 2 WORLD SERIES. as an aside, Washington was reading a letter and very sad. Jason Giambi asked what was wrong. Washington said his family was caught in the Hurricane in Louisiana and needed money. Giambi cut a check for $25,000 while in the dugout and gave it to Washington. Washington cried.
The best scene in the film, right here. It establishes the movie's heart. The movie is about numbers, stats, and equations, but here you see, it's about people. That is why they bring out the daughter and the hug at the end. For the rest of the movie, at least when it comes to the team on the field, it's the journey of Scott Hatteberg. From struggling at defense in spring training, to the manager being unwilling to play him, to being afraid to get the ball hit to him, and finally, his homerun. And it's also funny: "It's not that hard, tell him Wash." "It's incredibly hard" and "what about the fans?" "yeah, maybe I can teach one of them."
It's actually a complete fabrication, though. Beane never went to Hatteberg's home to recruit him, and Hatteberg understood he would have to change positions and was fielding offers on that basis. (He was getting offers, because he could hit, and anyone who can hit can find work in MLB.) Oakland made the best offer, and Art Howe actually did play him from day one, but only as a DH until Carlos Pena got traded. And anyone who can play catcher in the major leagues can learn to play first base if they apply themselves. Hatteberg did and extended his career by several years, and now works for Beane in the A's front office.
My sentiments as well Yo Yo. We all tend to envy major league ballplayers due to the exciting lives and money they make. However unlike most other careers theirs has a young expiration date. They must make their money while still strong and young. The transition from sports to the "real world" upon retirement must be a very difficult one for them. I'm glad that Scott found a job with the A's after he left the field.
Chuck.Raney Raney Invent some dialogue? Or invent events and circumstances that never actually occurred? As a work of fiction, it's a good movie. As something supposedly based on a true story, it's nonsense.
Watched Hatteberg in a Reds uniform to finish his career. A pleasure to see someone who plays the game for the joy of it. And hey, he was a major league player! Something so many only dream of.
I'm a grown man and this scene makes me tear up every time. Every man who has a family and had been laid off knows that feeling when you're adrift, without a job and lost. It's terrifying. Once in a while a small miracle occurs like this. Complete 180 of emotion!
I've always found this scene so interesting. Billy has walked into his house with the contract in his jacket. He's going to offer 1st to him, but Scott is at home unsure of his future and Billy calls him. He's thinking, "I need this. It's my last chance to play." He's desperate, and Scott starts to bs him about his elbow. Even with his dream hanging in the balance, he tells the truth. He can't throw the ball. We know EVERYTHING we need to know about this character within a minute and a half of screen time. Right away, we know he's different from the other players we saw abandon the team for money. It's not about money for him, it's about playing the game. That's why Pete and Billy fight for Hatteberg later on a moral level. All of this is accomplished in a minute and a half. It's just excellent filmmaking.
Yup. It shows he has integrity. He can choose to be deceitful and maybe benefit from it or he can tell the truth, it shows how much he respects the game. It shows he respects people's time. Well said. I also love how they show Scott's eyes hide both the confusion and joy that a Major League team is showing interest in him.
Yeah what you said whazz true but naw man I saw man depressed wondering what he whazz going to do case in point his wife looking over the bills at the begining of the scene and them hugging at the end says it all I'd say he whazz worried about putting food on the table then the game he loved just my opinion no hate
It is also the primary reason that Beane does not pull out the contract until after he tests Hatteberg's integrity...Beane knows damn well that Hatteberg's elbow is shot, but he wants to weigh Hatteberg's response before offering him a thing, even the prospect of playing first. Just a powerful film.
@@norcalyo do you watch baseball? I've seen hundreds of throws from first basemen. The two most obvious situations are fielding double-play grounders and throwing to second while the pitcher covers first. And fielding grounders with a runner on third on throwing home. I've also seen first basemen act as the cutoff man on long hits into right field with runners in scoring position. Ya dig?
@@perniciouspete4986 …wow that’s soooo insightful. It’s almost like human beings are complex and two facts can be true at once - having no bearing on the other’s veracity. 🤦🏻♂️
@Kevin L Reading comprehension obviously not your strong suit. Pete went for the low hanging fruit and contributed nothing to the conversation. Pete is an idiot who is around for the *gotcha* and not for the actual discussion. Now you’re here pretending I’m upset and trying to defend Pete 🤡 What a silly person you must be
So many "emotional scenes" in so many movies, but this one makes me tear up every time for some reason. Such a well done scene, and Pratt nails the wide range of emotions.
Pratt was really good also. He's such an underrated actor. He's doing mostly action movies now but I think that he could be a really good dramatic actor also.
Gunner 249 He wasn't there. He was a figment of Scott's imagination. He realizes this after he hits the home run. The first rule about Moneyball is, You do not.talk about Moneyball.
Yeah, he was brilliant. People don't give him much credit as an actor because of his looks but he's a darn good actor and this was one of his finest moments.
"It's not that hard Scott - tell him Wash" "It's incredibly hard." 😂 I watched this film years ago and I had no idea that Chris Pratt played this character, it was before I knew who he was. Amazing revelation today!
My favorite Brad Pitt performance ever! He played the everyday baseball office man so well and came across as always very sympathetic character. A super good sports movie!
Ron Washington is such an interesting character. The actor playing him is Brent Jennings, who has been a bit part actor for near 40 years in TV and film. Never much more than a guest spot or ancillary characters. I really love what he did with this part.
One of the things I loved about this film was how you got a glimpse into the lives of the ballplayers and what they wanted besides what you usally hear about through the filter of the media. Hatterberg wanted to play well enough to support his family, Justice wanted to stay in the game as long as possible, and Chad Bradford wanted to finally get a damn shot and to not be looked down on because of his pitching style.
these nobodies were people that were known...they did not find like 21 year olds or bums who never played in the big games...thats why moneyball worked...you could trust these dudes like justice giambi and scott plus mabry and durham even bradford
yeah, it was "wash" as in Gene Washington coach of the Oakland A's, who actually played in the movie as himself and would later MANAGE the Texas Rangers to 2 WORLD SERIES.
@@samuelmoulds1016 It's Ron Washington......not Gene Washington. If you're going to take the time to write up a comment and leave it on a video, the least you could do is make sure you're not passing along bogus facts that aren't remotely true
+Zachary Vroom I spoke to Samuel by phone and he apologizes for the confusion as Gerry is the name of Ron Washington's wife. Apparently Sam slit his wrists after reading your comment and almost bled out in the tub with a half empty bottle of vodka floating in the bloody froth.
Probably one of my favorite scenes in the whole movie. So much emotion displayed with each character and how Scott’s emotions change from the beginning of the scene to the end. It’s done so real that it really hits you with a good feeling of hope by the end of the scene.
My favorite thing about that scene is the hug he gives his wife. He was depressed thinking the one thing he did his whole life was over, but was given a lifeline.
I couldn't imagine the transition of feeling despair to pure joy in that moment. I'm just glad that I've actually witnessed this with several friends in my life.
The A’s signed Hatteberg to a one-year contract worth just under $1 million. I think 950k. He most definitely lived up to Beane's expectations at the plate in 2002, boasting a .280/.374/.433 slash line with a career-high 15 home runs and 61 RBI. Of course, he happened to hit one of the most iconic home runs in A's history, a walk-off fucking blast against Kansas City to give Oakland its 20th consecutive win, setting an American League record at the time!!!! Crazy!! The A's kept Hatteberg around for three more years, paying him a total of just $7.05 million over the 4 seasons
This is one of my favorite parts of this movie. It's the feeling of being saved at the end. That part where you feel your prayers have been answered and you are just happy it happened before your world already ended.
I love how this scene sets up Scott's situation in total silence, just cutting between him and his wife. He's sitting there looking dejected, she's sitting there at the table looking at him. Is she dealing with bills, figuring out how they will pay them now? Maybe. It leaves everything unsaid (even unshown - no tracking shots of newspaper articles about his high school exploits, then his tragic injury, etc.) , it just leaves you, in a couple of shots that take maybe 10 seconds, with a sense of a family's life in crisis.
@@Puschit1 If you know anything about athletes or pretty much anyone in a high pay, high risk job, then it's that most of them spend money expecting their yearly earnings to keep increasing without adequately taking the risk factors into account. It happens even more frequently for actors, they get one or two big roles with a big payout and then three years later when the roles offered ran out they are dead broke. Also just from a story telling perspective, the wife obviously wouldn't be shown going over bills if paying them wasn't a concern for the family.
@@RandomCarrot2806 If that was the case here they would have shown us a more luxury type of house. It wasn't bad but certainly not one you'd expect from guy that keeps on overspending. He also didn't seem to be the type of character that would do this. Beamen? Sure! But Rooney? IF what you describe was intended to be Rooney's background, then they did a bad job hinting at that.
a team with barry zito tim Hudson Miguel Tejada Jermaine dye and eric Chavez and yet they choose to focus on hattenburg and david justice?...wtf....this movie is playing non sports fans like a violin..just saying...if you know nothing about how stacked the A's roster still was then of course you will buy into the films stats premise but in reality they lost 2 good players but they still had a great team just not as good and they still lost to the Yankees who had a huger payroll and could afford more players and mistakes cause its an inexact science ....it still takes players and luck and skill..you cant just win with stats...
Asmosis Jones The book explains what made those guys, especially Zito and Hudson, undervalued. Zito was let go by the Rangers and then the Padres because he didn't throw fast enough. Hudson was only 6'0. Beane fleeced the Royals for Jermaine Dye. Tejada was drafted by the A's in 1997, the first year Beane was there. The plan was for the Athletics to keep these guys and let them play like stars under their rookie contracts and pre-arbitration, since it would cost a ton of money that Oakland didn't have, to keep them later on. As compensation for letting the big names leave in free agency, the A's received a first round that they would use to start the cycle over again.
That is nice and all, but the bottom line is Oakland never won a World Series and that is what its all about. Does not matter how great your drafting was and how many great deals you pull off. Did they ever win it all? No. Second is as good as last.
Greatest line in the movie, “it’s incredibly hard.” Kills me every time
Ditto. I just put that quote into a blog post I'm using for professional purposes. Its exactly what you better be thinking when you learn something new and pivot your career.
I still like Ron Washington's follow up..."yeah, mabe you could teach one of the fans to..."
it cracks me up
I literally laughed out loud 😂
The timing of it was great..he does not hesitate.
That hug at the end of a scene hits hard, that's a guy who realises he's just been saved.
you are such a straight shooter
and yes that hug really warms ur heart. reminds u of being human
And it's Christmas no less
Beautiful scene
@@ryanmoscrop1947 I don't ever comment on UA-cam videos but good for you man.
"What about the fans ?"
"Yeah, maybe I can teach one of them"
I died laughing, great delivery, timing !!!
It almost looks like improve or it was not in the script its so good.
Funniest thing is, that's basically the story of vince papali lmao
Made that whole invincible movie about it
A great set of lines in a movie full of great lines.
I kept replaying it over and over just now. I die laughing each and every time with that timing and delivery.
@Rob Ron Washington, went on the lead the Texas Rangers to consecutive World Series appearances in 2010 and 2011, is the winningest manager in Rangers history. He had to resign due to personal issues (marital and substance abuse issues) from the Rangers, but made his way back into the league and was the 3rd base coach for the Braves when they won the 2021 World Series.
Then he went on to play 7 more years and have a full career. A good story.
According to Wikipedia, Scott Hatteberg is the only player in MLB history to hit into a triple play and hit a grand slam in his next at-bat. The bat he used for that game is now in the National Baseball Hall of Fame.
Hitting into a triple play is rare; you’ve either got slow runners or it’s right at a baseman covering the bag that then makes a throw to another base for another out, maybe on a hit and run call with zero outs trying to move two runners into scoring position.
that's really cool actually
THAT is unbelievable !
Good for Scott
He gets on base
@@abigbutterstick1780☝️☝️☝️👈👈👈
This is a GREAT moment in the movie. One moment you're thinking all your dreams are over, wondering how you're gonna pay the bills, feed your family and then Billy Bean offers you a job.
The beauty of Moneyball. Giving the underdog the opportunity because they truly deserved the opportunity instead of giving opportunities to people that are getting them based on flawed and biased reasoning.
the only thing the movie gets wrong is that the a's werent the only team interested in scott. The rockies wanted him to and the a's had to outbid them
The rockies wanted him as a catcher, correct?
dunno about catcher, but they sure as hell didnt need a 1B with Helton there.
Gabe Zarate yeah As a catcher I read the book, great read by the way
"It's not that hard."
"It's incredibly hard."
"Hey, anything worth doing is."
That pivot! I'd trust anyone that quick on his feet.
Love it! Typical Sorkin dialogue. The man is a genius!
Best line in this wonderful movie and probably one of the best lines of any baseball movie. Saw Chris Chamblis pick up a short hop at Shea Stadium in 1974 and the man was a master at first base
Well I mean, it is scripted
I've played first base, it seems easy but it definitely takes a lot of talent and focus.
Chandler Walrath it’s amazing how easy they make picking the ball look
"It isn't that hard. Tell him, Wash."
"It's incredibly hard."
"Hey, anything worth doing is."
They way Billy doesn't miss a beat when Wash contradicts him makes me laugh out loud every time. 😄
Those two could team up in a separate movie. They had great timing.
Just the timing of it all is perfect
Which one is wash is it brad pitt?
It's incredibly hard gets me every time 😊
@@justicedemocrat9357Billy Beane is Brad Pitt
I cry every time I see the hug at the end of the scene. That is a hug that is shedding tons of stress, depression and anxiety from a husband and father.
Same here
I think the same thing every time. This movie does a good job at treating people like stats, while also giving glimpses of humanity. That's not easy to balance.
For me the daughter walking in gets me every time, the hug is the final nail. Never managed to keep it dry during this scene. Remarkable acting.
Unless you’ve been there you can’t explain it
He has earned two mil at that point, rather difficult for most people to relate.
I love that when he asks about billy's daughter, billy just skims over the topic, because he doesn't want to get emotionally attached to the players
I saw it more as Billy not interested in sentimentality. "I have a daughter, so what? just sign the contract."
@@vazquezb2011 Nahh Michael's got it right. Especially because that whole concept is highlighted later in the film. He IS, by nature, concerned for these guys, that's precisely why he can't get involved with one of the many guy's on his roster's life story when he's not even sure he's going to sign him. Think about it, can you actually imagine the character saying your hypothetical quote in the movie??? It's pretty out of character. No hate btw...
Too true. Such a subtle piece of characterization in the script, played w understated (yet fully realized) subtext by Pitt. Little "throwaway" lines like this, performed with such a complete concept in mind of just who the guy is/why he's saying what he's saying are the reason BP finally got an Oscar nom
Um...no...it is because Billy Beane is gay. Hatteburg asked whether he had kids and Beane sidestepped the question.
@@christansdad where on Earth would you get that idea from?
He showed integrity when he was honest about his arm. His first thoughts were about continuing his lifelong dream and the need to provide for his family, but almost immediately he realized it wouldn't have lasted and came clean. That part of the scene was a model of humility and integrity.
@@mechamartini Sounds like U...
@@michaelgove9349 dude i have no explanation or no recollection to who typed this six months ago.
@@mechamartini LOL - no worries. Either you were a bit drunk, or a cat was partying on yr laptop. 😂
@@michaelgove9349 probably my felines on catnip.
Billy Beane already knew the answer to the question about his arm. He was just testing Scott to check out his character.
That little hug at the end between Scott and his family was such a tug at the heart strings, when a player is injured it could mean their career and we can see it in Scott's demeanor, he was sad because he knows his career is over and he wouldn't know what to do and for Billy to give him a chance really made that hug at the end all the more powerful because he knows he can take care of his family doing what he loves
Boy, light headed after reading that. Punctuation dude.
A perfect scene with perfect acting. Brad Pitt is the perfect Billy Beane
It also shows the power of music in films. The music at the scene's opening is wistful and melancholy and this tells us (along with Scott's demeanor) how he is feeling. The same music plays at the end, and while it is still a lament for what has been lost, it's calmness also tells us that Scott is feeling relaxed because he knows his family will be provided for. It's a great scene for many reasons.
not just career but his dream as well. how many dreams been taken away
Well said.
He went from career earnings of $2.5 million and a finished career after Boston to go to make another $11.5 million because of Billy Beane. Not sure how accurate this scene is, but Beane literally saved this man’s life.
I'm not sure how serious you're being here. An otherwise healthy young man who had already earned $2.5 million and his life would have literally been over if he had to quit baseball?
@@Fordham1969 Taxes and agent commissions are very high, close to $1M on $2.5M salary. A lot of athletes don't end up with much at the end of their careers.
@@jgoog7442 I understand that, and I have no doubt if his career had ended there it would have been a profound disappointment. I was reacting to the OP suggesting that his life was "literally saved", as though a healthy 32 year old with pro baseball experience and 3 years of college couldn't have found a way of making a decent living.
@@Fordham1969 cuz thats the murican mentality, they dont know how to save money
That poor millionair, how tragic, lmfao.
Stfu, please.
This is funny since at the time Chris Pratt was almost nobody so the studio got him for a steal.
Now he is a valuable commodity. They pulled a move out of sabermetrics.
Then came the Marvel contract about three years later and the rest they say is history.
You guys sleep on Parks and Recreation. Since that show began in 2009. Beside CP already gained traction in Hollywood with his supporting role in Wanted (2008), Jennifer's Body & Brides War (2009)
I honestly didnt know Chris Pratt was in this film. Yeah, this is before he became more famous.
Sure he is more famous now, but he was still a main character in Parcs and Recreations which is a big show, so he was by no means a nobody
Sounds like Sport contracts to me....
The "you got kids" line is such a great line. You can feel the vulnerability in Pratt and Pitt trying not to get personal with a player. Very nicely directed/acted moment.
“Ahhhh…. yeaIhaveadaughter.”
good observation.... i will have to get the book bought the movie 3 times and give it away to people i think need a good feeling story
@@jamestyler2593 movies better imo
That's an amazing interpretation. Didn't catch that the first time
Chris Pratt's delivery of that line is note perfect
A tiny part of all that went on in this great scene, but grabbing the cookie and taking a bite on his way out was a classy move. That wasn't out of hunger. He wanted to acknowledge the generosity/hospitality of his wife. It's the little things..
Plus, Brad Pitt eats in all his movies. Kinda a thing with him. And what you said, absolutely.
"When your chewing, it makes you sound casual." - the great thinker and philosopher, George Costanza
I like that evaluation - good catch (pun intended). This great feel-good scene gets better every time I watch it.
I would do the same
Pitt was stuffing his face in every scene so no.
At the 2:49 mark, I like how Billy Beane leaves the house eating some of the snacks that Scott Hatteberg's wife provided them. Very believable. It was a nice sign of gratitude and goodwill by both sides.
Exactly! I would have done the same thing...impossible to pass up a delicious Christmas cookie.
Brad Pitt is always eating in his scenes, haha
he was snacking the entire movie
I love that so much that Billy lets her know he took some of the food. Billy is a good egg.
That moment when an actor actually eats some of the prop food lol.
Hatteberg: “What about the fans?”
Washington: “Yeah, maybe I can teach one of them.”
Beane: “The fans don’t....Good one..”
That banter. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Worth the price of the ticket right there!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂
my favorite part
No need to repeat it, we've heard it. 👎
I wonder if that line was adlibbed and not written into the script.
Improv'd as well
Scott's wife is a 9, at worst. That means confidence.
For real and she brings treats out for the guests, so thoughtful
Hot girls like rich ballplayers
@@RealD8 SOP for most housewifes in the 50's and 60's.
@@shrapnel77 Huh? That's like saying "it's a sunny day" and somebody responds with "it was rainy two years ago on a Saturday". You don't think this took place in the 50s or 60s right?
Draft Day reference?
That family hug at the end...that gets me in the feels.
A well directed scene. The wife is reconciling the bills at the dining room table to set the mood, His body language speaks defeat. The Christmas decorations on the fireplace. The little daughter walks in the room to bring home a sense of innocence and obligations. "Do you have kids?" "Yeah, a daughter". The pace moves like an opera. Then at the end there is the family hug to bring closure to the scene. Wonderful. Oh, and no swear words.
Perfectly said
The dude playing "Wash" steals every scene he's in.
Love how Pratt delivered the confused happiness.
That's oscar worthy talent right there.
william heinrich that's exaggerating
He NAILED it.
He used that and expanded on it in the MCU 😁
Then ate a sandwich. Old pitty, always eating.
The more I study this scene, the greater I think it is. So much is conveyed just through the visual: the wife in the kitchen forlornly paying bills, the husband watching tv wondering what's next in his life, the daughter's doll tucked under a pillow on the sofa, the wife hurriedly but composed bringing out Christmas cookies, the family sharing a lifeline saving hug at the end.
There's an interesting leadership aspect here in the way Billy talks to Scott. He cuts right to the chase about the elbow damage and what it means, and then offers him the contract just as directly. He's making clear that he has no illusions about the drawback, and the potential difficulties of transitioning him to a new position. At the same time, he's showing that he recognizes and values what Scott can still bring to the team (his high OBP) enough to sign him in spite of those negatives.
It's a similar dynamic in the later scene with David Justice, when he tells him "I'm not paying you for the player you used to be, I'm paying you for the player you are right now." He's telling David that he didn't just sign him to take a flyer on David somehow turning back the clock to become a superstar again, where anything less would be a disappointment. He's saying that he recognizes and values the ability that David does still have enough to pay the (albeit lesser) money for it, in order to get his buy-in on the direction he's trying to take the team.
Well done for explaining the film
I have no idea if Billy Beane is like that in real life. But it is perfect execution by Pitt to sell it to the audience.
It's about managing to someone's strengths rather than trying to address their weaknesses. Perfect illustration!
I think the more relevant part of the Justice exchange is that he tells Justice his old team his paying half his contract to the As .
That's motivating, that your old team thinks you're so bad they're paying for you to play against them
I love it when folks get to the point. He says what he means and he means what he says.
"Scott. It's not that hard Scott. Tell him Wash"
"It's incredibly hard" lol
Engpichon $950K per year? I'd learn.
Engpichon Best line in the movie - I about lost it first time I saw the flick
"What about the fans?"
"Ya, maybe we can teach one of them: :p
lol the look Bill Bean gives him when he says that
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I'd say this is one of Chris Pratt's more underrated roles.
True.....his portrayal of Hatteberg in this brief scene is extremely well done...portraying a man trying to appear cool and collected while inwardly tormented about his playing days likely coming to an end...movie well done..even seems to show his wife looking over (unpaid?) bills.
@@hellogoodbye4061 100 percent.
Also pitts, he really did it well
@@hellogoodbye4061 looks like she was writing checks. yup
I agree. He was pretty genuine in Delivery Man as well.
2:39: Just look at Scott's expression here. The awe, the relief. There is no Chris Pratt in this scene, there's just a worn-out, worried ex-player who's been given one chance. Then when Billy stands, Scott stands up and watch how his eyes go straight to his wife, the person he wants to make proud the most. Even when Scott is saying goodbye, look how he's holding his nervous hands, fingers twitching with nervous energy, with the thumb tucked in like he forgot how to hold his composure with the great news. And the hug with his family at the end seals the deal on this scene. This scene pops into my head once in a while because of how moving it is.
Edit: also noticing two more things. When Scott is asked how his arm is going, he tells the truth, to the detriment of his family, finances, etc. Secondly, when Scott's daughter comes running out, Brad Pitt's character (who has a daughter from a divorce) immediately grabs the contract and hands it over. My thinking is, he can't save his own marriage after the fact. But he can save Scotts.
I think Hatteburg is still in the A's front office. And the black coach was at the Texas Rangers for a long time.
@@SuperChuckRaney Ron Washington was 1 strike away from winning a WS as manager of the Texas Rangers.
@@jloo6822twice
@@jloo6822At least he finally got a ring two years ago with the Braves
Hatteberg was who they wanted. They just wanted to see his reactions. The daughter had nothing to do with it. The dignity, integrity, honesty, and courage, did
The hug at the end of the scene is great cause at the start we can see how financially toasted the family is. Scott sitting catatonic in his living room - his wife looks like she's trying to sort out overdue bills at the table while she's worried about her husband.
Not gonna lie I’ve lived this moment. I was stuck at a job I hated with a malicious manager and applying everywhere I could for anything just to get away and not go broke. One demoralizing non-response rejection after another when out of nowhere I’m called by a recruiter who heard about me through a professional connection I made once offering me a job to a position I didn’t even apply for. It’s a great feeling.
How did you do?
Similar experience
Well, he made a million bucks the season his contract expired, so....is it really the same? lol. That little bit of information is left out of this scene. I mean you feel bad for him, but at the same time he's been making anywhere between 10 to 20 times what a normal person makes.
@@rjones6801 donut
Been there, congrats
I lost my job two years ago, 2 weeks before Christmas. There’s a feeling of desperation and helplessness. Not knowing what you’re gonna do. That last hug gets to me every time I see it, because there’s hope again.
amanrob I thought the same. Was out of work for a few weeks, but had never happened before. Was I getting too old? Doubts, anxiety... And that was without family or mortgage. Great scene, great movie.
I hope you have managed to recover and things have got better
Hope is the best of things. Keeps you going.
Been there, done that! It sucks.
The way he embraces his family after always gets me. It's a moment of, "we've been saved!" A ball player with what seems like nothing left - being brought back to do what he loves.
His wife sending in the kid to secure sympathy was a calculated and strategic move. We should all be so lucky to have a wife like that. /s!!!!!! this is a joke people seriously
Edit: what I have learned from the comments to this obvious joke is that a lot of you have lived very hard lives and for that you have my sympathy. 😔
unfortunately nowadays majority women are expecting all to be served on table.... harsh times are for majority again of them are no go - immediately asking for divorce.....
@@solomoniuss7756 I wouldn't say a majority. Maybe it changes after marriage but the majority of women I've dated are always eager to please and help out. But agajn maybe it changes after marriage. I wouldn't know
@@solomoniuss7756 this is why you need to be gay
That’s a good name
I approve
@@solomoniuss7756 That's an incredibly closed minded viewpoint. I'm willing to bet this "majority" of yours isn't actually based on anything
"Discuss it with your wife........" yeah, that's gonna be a very short discussion right there.
From 3:04-3:07 it happened already.
Wife says...."Heres a pen"
Lol. Aint that the truth
Especially as we see in the very beginning of this scene that she is at a table in the other room, presumably doing bills, and he is in the other room looking depressed in the chair.
what i like here is that the moment his daughter runs in is the moment billy makes the final call to offer the contract. the key is the connection haddy and billy have made is enough to trust they will act the same in similar situations.
Brent Jennings as A's coach Ron Washington just nailed his deadpan delivery here. He makes this scene hilarious, while underlining to the audience how much of a change this really is.
I love when he goes, "It's incredibly hard." I laugh every time, and then to mention picking a fan to play first base just rubs it in.
What about the fans?
Yeah maybe I can teach one of them
I remember Jennings as Harrison Fords partner in Witness. Another memorable supporting role.
@@haakon7001 RIP that character
@@boppob1343 big time.
What kills me about this scene is how it starts with despair and ends with hope. It's wonderfully directed.
1:24 Great acting by Chris Pratt right here. Hatteberg was absolutely shocked by this. His career was saved in the most unexpected way!
One minute she's figuring out how they are going to manage with all the debt they have, the next he's got a second career starting and they are happy and relieved at the same time...I love this scene.
Hatteberg had made $2.4mil up until this point in his career, I am sure they weren't scraping the bottom.
@@geofffalbo5900 True true, most of that $2.4m was his last 2 years before he joined Oakland as well. You are right, he's not going to be broke overnight.
That said, even if the filmmakers took some artistic licence with the scene, I love the scene though. I can imagine if not Hatteberg, every offseason in the MLB, NBA, NFL or any other sport there will be some minimum salary fringe roster guy who's probably facing an uncertain future and got a family to support. Getting a lifeline is a big deal and I thought they reflected that in the scene perfectly.
@@bigheadache What people don't realize is that ballplayers' career is not very long. So, if they get injured and it shortens their already short career, it's a problem. Then you have to count how much of the $2.4 M remain after taxes. And worst of all, people tend to have a lifestyle commensurate with making the $ they made in their best year, as if they are going to keep making that money every year for the rest of their life! Add a wife who does not work outside the home, and a daughter, and methinks that $2.4 million would not last that long, and he was probably thinking about selling the house and getting a much smaller and cheaper one to cut down the monthly expenses and cash outflow.
@@geofffalbo5900 50% tax rate in Cali and with no future in any other business I'd be worrying about what I was going to do at age 32. He made around 10 million the rest of his career which may have been zero without the A's.
@@stockvaluedotcom Honestly I wouldn't mind if the taxes kept going up in bluer states, in Europe soccer players avoid playing in countries like Spain or Italy due to insane taxes, maybe small market teams would be able to sign more high tier free agents you know?
Hatteberg later on said "fuck first base" and became a guardian of the galaxy
He also trains a few Raptors also.
he's come a long way from shining shoes in Pawnee Town Hall
Then he helped take down Osama bin Laden.
Only after he got done playing with his legos.
Was this before or after he became a passenger?
One of my favorite scenes ~ Scott being so humble and so genuine makes him the best player! ⚾️
That set of lines kills me.
"What about the fans?"
"Yeah, maybe I can teach one of them."
I had something like this happen to me once. I had been applying for jobs all week and had pretty much given up. I was desperate for work but there was nothing to be found. I stopped off at a local bar and shot pool with the owner all afternoon. The place was empty so we just played pool and shot the shit. He asked me my name and the next day I was offered a job and at a manufacturing plant with good pay and benefits. It turns out that the owner of the bar was also the owner of the plant. I was married with three little boys. You can never forget what it's like to be saved out of the blue. That's why I like this scene.
so happy for you and thank you for taking time to share your similar story. I am not sure if I have experienced that exact thing, but it warms my heart to read about people giving a second chance and they actually making use of that second chance. God bless you and your family.
That, is a beautiful story. Thanks for sharing!
“It’s not that hard. Tell him, Wash.”
“It’s incredibly hard.”
The93Vector Naah. There’s a lot more to it than that. You’ve got to be able to find the bag with your back foot while watching everything else around you. And you just can’t pick it up after so many years of doing it in the bigs.
You can teach one of these people in the stands.. take me take me
The little eye roll by Pitt after Wash says it's incredibly hard is hilarious
I love that dialogue, it's like he deliberately set that up to play good cop bad cop.
@@SageOftheSubway this isn’t true. Guys that can hit but can’t field anymore get converted from their natural positions to first base all the time. It’s the easiest position to play by a mile.
I think what a lot of people fail to see about this scene is that it is meant to be contrasted with Beane's recollection of the classic "scouts bullshitting a young player and his parents" experience.
Excellent comment 👍
It's just one of many scenes in a movie which I agree is excellent but that are entirely fictitious. Nobody bullshitted Billy Mr Sliderule wouldn't have drafted him in the 9th round he had all the ability he just didn't have the mental strength to transition to the pros.
I Love all the scouts trying to spend money they don’t have. Billy sets them straight, knowing the budget they had. They wanted to shop at Tiffany and Billy knew they could only afford the dollar general store.
There was 50 feet of crap between the Dollar Store and them 🤷♂️
Beane : May be we can teach you!
Hatteberg : What about the fans?
Wash : Yeah, Maybe we can teach one of them! :P
The fa... Good one.
I kept watching that part and laughing.. It was as if Brad Pitt didnt know he was going to saY that
Wow, you can transcribe what was said in the clip. What and cooking?
"The Fans don't... The fans don't run my ball club."
The fans don’t......Koot one.
I love to see people's fortunes change for the better. So many don't.
Wow! Well said. Touché
Rory Tizyte That's why I'm a professional fortune teller.
You should watch Alfred Molina's performance in A Family Man.
David Hutchinson yeah poor thing was sitting in a nice home with a hot wife and a baby having enough money to not have to work Lol.
I don't think money will help when you have done some 25 years work for you dream to be in MLB and that dream you are living is just taken from you. Most professional athletes don't do it for money. They do it because they love it. Money is benefit.
That look from the wife, and that hug at the end. I can feel the relief from across the screen ❤
I really like how Scott shows them how scared and nervous he is to play first base, but then immediately reminds himself when his daughter shows up, that he is a family man and must provide for his family. It's a great scene for anyone that receives that opportunity and has to take it to better the lives of those around you.
You do what you gotta do.
Can imagine what it must of felt like, worried about the future for you and your family and then get the best news you could have ever gotten at the worst of times
I love fortune
It feels great...trust me
must "have"
Elmo Blatch The pic is hilarious. That elmo.
Jesus. He could have gotten a job like the other 95% of us .
"Yeah, maybe I can teach one of them"
Sounds so much like an improvised line judging by Brad's reaction.
I thought the same thing...
Yea , me too just because it’s such a weird break but I can’t find anything about it
Yea, when he looks over at Wash, and kind of laughs and says "good one". None of it seems scripted
100% of "improvised" lines in an Aaron sorkin script are imaginary.
It's a screenplay by Aaron Sorkin. There are no improvised lines - and if one happens to make the final cut, it's incredibly rare that it's better than Sorkin's original. Every last breath and stammer is scripted, just like any script from the Coen brothers or John Patrick Shanley. No actor would dare question Sorkin on his choices - he's the best in the business.
The way he hugged his wife and daughter at the end was simple yet said so much. Sometimes when life is kicking you in the nuts something wonderful and unexpected happens that changes everything and that's what that hug was all about
The cinematography in this scene is top notch… the shot of Hatteberg’s wife… Hatteberg watching TV… the final shot of Hatteberg hugging his family…truly an excellent film
This scene is a movie of its own. The (strained) relationship husband-wife, the emotions displayed through the start of the scene, the pretense, the disclosure, the hopelessness, the rising hope, a Hope and a New Start at the end.
You and I should meet, grab a pizza and talk about life, friend..
@@ChillerSamson Weirdest comment I have seen posted on this video 😂
@@matthewperez555 will take that as a compliment friend
Line that sicks with me the most from this movie I s the scout in the beginning. "Everyone is told we can no longer play the childs game, some when we are 40 some at 18.. but we are all told."
@@ChillerSamson sense you are maybe in this spot yourself, hope it works out friend
"Fans don't run my ball club"
Let that be a lesson to you armchair GMs
Inspector83 heard a coach say once "if you listen to the fans you'll end up sitting with the fans."
This is incredibly true but it's not always the case. As a Pirates fan, I can tell you with 100% certainty that isn't the case.
Joshua Henderson bill parcelles, I believe
unfortunately, if sometimes you don't listen to the fans, you end up with less people in your stadium.
Bill O'Brien of the Houston Texans is an exception
this scene gets me every time. Tears in my eyes, it’s done so so well
Everytime I'm having a bad day 🙃, watch this scene !!!
When he hugs his wife and daughter I cry every time. Very touching scene.
you sound depressed.
TheLinuxYes you sound pessimistic
TheLinuxYes not at all. It called having human emotion.
@@mikeway2223 I know society keeps telling you it's okay to be a pussy - and it is okay... but it's nobody's preference. Harden up cupcake, it's just a movie.
Yes, that it's gonna be okay and they'll be able to pay the bills again!
Chris Pratt described how he initially was told in his first audition for the role of Hatteberg that he was "too fat". Pratt took three months to work out and shed 30 pounds, which ultimately led to him winning the role.
omg the body shaming!!
The thought of *Chris Pratt* being considered too fat is an alien concept these days.
I feel like the laugh followed with "good one" by brad was genuine.always cracks me up 😂
This might be my favorite scene. It shows a guy who appears to be at his end getting the reboot many, many players pray for. And they tossed in some lighthearted humor ("maybe I can teach one of them"). Steven Zaillian and Aaron Sorkin is a deadly duo for a screenplay!
This movie is a masterpiece of understatement.
really?
Yep
It is yea. And a loveletter to baseball despite the subject matter being a literal hard pivot from how baseball is usually done
There is also a Clint Eastwood movie, amazing one
@@mauz791 That one was way too corny.
Gotta say - As someone involved in baseball professionally this is one of the most accurate and well written scenes of how dialogues like this take place. Fantastic!
Lmao no it absolutely is not. The GM and coach do not show up to a dudes house to offer him a contract out of the blue.
@@AD-df5tm OK bud lol.. Not talking about showing up at houses. Talking about the dialogue between coaches, players, etc. READ WHAT I WROTE lol Understand what "dialogue" means lol
So you sell beer in the stands?
@@timf2279 lol not quite no. But love the comment!
@@dperl5640 Hot Dogs and Peanuts by any chance maybe Crackerjack?
Thanks for the comments.
Also I know a local guy named Bruce the Beer guy. He is at all the major sporting events, even out of state events I see him. He is most respected by the fans.
It blows my mind how much I love this movie. I watch all these scenes (again & again) when they turn up. I've watched the whole movie many times. Not because I love Brad Pitt & Jonah Hill, not because Billy Beane was a classmate of mine in my hs. Plus, I'm not a big fan of baseball, however I love movies about baseball! This film is understated but almost every scene is gripping, inspired and subtly funny. The images & acting in this one are so good, packed with so much information.
A classic Sorkin script, well directed and well acted. I know nothing about baseball (though I could bore you all day with cricket statistics) but you don't have to to recognise this as one of the best sport movies ever.
I just can't get enough of it.
Best part to me of this scene is the out of the blue unannounced drop by at his house. As a player who is scared his career is over, it gives him renewed confidence and supreme loyalty to an organization.
The moment at 2:30 when his wife picks his daughter up and smiles at him before leaving the room. She realizes that his career has been saved before he even does. That’s such a well done moment in this film that most seem to miss.
Can I ask how you took that from it? I got the sense that she doesn't know much about baseball and just supports her husband. She put down the bills to bring out snacks so they could entertain guests when they dropped in on him, and fished away their kid when she got out of bed to see what was going on. You know she was probably listening when the visitors told her husband they were handing him an unsigned contract, but she seemed like she had his back whatever was going on with the meeting.
@@brettzforeman
I think you're both reading a whole hell of a lot into a 3 second clip of acting from a C-rated actress whose sole job is to grab a child in front of Brad Pitt and Chris Pratt.
@@brettzforeman The GM coming by the house before season starts is pretty much a given he's got a job offer. Why else would he be there.
@@jerryavalos9610 Free cookies.
The daughter coming out is such a perfect touch, because it was a seamless transition to a family hug after the great news. Whoever made that creative decision, raise their pay!
Also reminded Billy of his own daughter and how much it means to Scott and his family. If you watch Brad Pitt does a subtle pause before saying, "yeah a daughter" very quickly while distracting him with the contract to be a part of another family. It shows that he understands he should be with his daughter that day.
@@phytheshyguy well said brother
I don't understand how this clip has over 800 dislikes..an athlete that thinks it's over and a wife worried about the bills..a daughter sleeping in the next room and BB calls...the best scene in the movie
500 dis...mb
Eh, it's probably for some dumb reason.
Although I'll throw some thoughts out for fun. As a philosophical study, nothing more. I love this scene like everyone else does. But it's a movie, casting a likeable charismatic guy with witty dialogue to give a lifeline to another likeable charismatic guy. In real life, Scott Hattefield is in the top .01% of the top .1% He probably made a fortune, spent his life being worshipped and running through cheerleaders and all the girls you had a crush on. He spent his life traveling and seeing his country and being with his broes. It's hard to reconcile that knowledge with this cutesy scene
I’m not even into baseball but why has a hard hitting,life meaning,Deal with it,Emotional film like this went under my radar for so long? Great film.
"It's not that hard, Scott. Tell'em, Walsh."
"It's incredibly hard."
"Hey, anything worth doing is."
Epic recovery!
ah...actually, it was "wash" as in Gene Washington coach of the Oakland A's, who played himself in the movie and would later MANAGE the Texas Rangers in 2 WORLD SERIES. as an aside, Washington was reading a letter and very sad. Jason Giambi asked what was wrong. Washington said his family was caught in the Hurricane in Louisiana and needed money. Giambi cut a check for $25,000 while in the dugout and gave it to Washington. Washington cried.
@@samuelmoulds1016 Some wingman, though... :oD
@@samuelmoulds1016 Ron Washington*
The best scene in the film, right here. It establishes the movie's heart. The movie is about numbers, stats, and equations, but here you see, it's about people. That is why they bring out the daughter and the hug at the end. For the rest of the movie, at least when it comes to the team on the field, it's the journey of Scott Hatteberg. From struggling at defense in spring training, to the manager being unwilling to play him, to being afraid to get the ball hit to him, and finally, his homerun.
And it's also funny:
"It's not that hard, tell him Wash."
"It's incredibly hard"
and
"what about the fans?"
"yeah, maybe I can teach one of them."
It's actually a complete fabrication, though. Beane never went to Hatteberg's home to recruit him, and Hatteberg understood he would have to change positions and was fielding offers on that basis. (He was getting offers, because he could hit, and anyone who can hit can find work in MLB.) Oakland made the best offer, and Art Howe actually did play him from day one, but only as a DH until Carlos Pena got traded. And anyone who can play catcher in the major leagues can learn to play first base if they apply themselves. Hatteberg did and extended his career by several years, and now works for Beane in the A's front office.
John Cate
Well, it is a fictional film and not a documentary. I said it's the best scene in the film, not the best moment in his life.
John Cate the movie only has 2 hours to present 12 months of real time. So they had to invent some dialogue to move the story along.
My sentiments as well Yo Yo.
We all tend to envy major league ballplayers due to the exciting lives and money they make. However unlike most other careers theirs has a young expiration date. They must make their money while still strong and young. The transition from sports to the "real world" upon retirement must be a very difficult one for them.
I'm glad that Scott found a job with the A's after he left the field.
Chuck.Raney Raney
Invent some dialogue? Or invent events and circumstances that never actually occurred? As a work of fiction, it's a good movie. As something supposedly based on a true story, it's nonsense.
Watched Hatteberg in a Reds uniform to finish his career.
A pleasure to see someone who plays the game for the joy of it.
And hey, he was a major league player! Something so many only dream of.
I'm a grown man and this scene makes me tear up every time. Every man who has a family and had been laid off knows that feeling when you're adrift, without a job and lost. It's terrifying. Once in a while a small miracle occurs like this. Complete 180 of emotion!
I've always found this scene so interesting. Billy has walked into his house with the contract in his jacket. He's going to offer 1st to him, but Scott is at home unsure of his future and Billy calls him. He's thinking, "I need this. It's my last chance to play." He's desperate, and Scott starts to bs him about his elbow. Even with his dream hanging in the balance, he tells the truth. He can't throw the ball.
We know EVERYTHING we need to know about this character within a minute and a half of screen time. Right away, we know he's different from the other players we saw abandon the team for money. It's not about money for him, it's about playing the game. That's why Pete and Billy fight for Hatteberg later on a moral level. All of this is accomplished in a minute and a half. It's just excellent filmmaking.
Yup. It shows he has integrity. He can choose to be deceitful and maybe benefit from it or he can tell the truth, it shows how much he respects the game. It shows he respects people's time. Well said. I also love how they show Scott's eyes hide both the confusion and joy that a Major League team is showing interest in him.
Yeah what you said whazz true but naw man I saw man depressed wondering what he whazz going to do case in point his wife looking over the bills at the begining of the scene and them hugging at the end says it all I'd say he whazz worried about putting food on the table then the game he loved just my opinion no hate
It is also the primary reason that Beane does not pull out the contract until after he tests Hatteberg's integrity...Beane knows damn well that Hatteberg's elbow is shot, but he wants to weigh Hatteberg's response before offering him a thing, even the prospect of playing first. Just a powerful film.
@@hellogoodbye4061 Except a copy of the contract was already sent over to his agent
And that my friend is a excellent breakdown. Props!!!!👏👏👏
Love this scene. It's about recognizing the potential and qualities in everyone if you just scratch the surface.
ya first base never really has to throw.... just catch.... and whos better than catcher.... this was a genius move
@@norcalyo do you watch baseball? I've seen hundreds of throws from first basemen. The two most obvious situations are fielding double-play grounders and throwing to second while the pitcher covers first. And fielding grounders with a runner on third on throwing home. I've also seen first basemen act as the cutoff man on long hits into right field with runners in scoring position. Ya dig?
Shout out to “Wash” in this scene - he’s the current third base coach of the Atlanta Braves. A player & a coach.
The guy is a living legend.
I don't believe his wife thinks so.
@@perniciouspete4986 …wow that’s soooo insightful. It’s almost like human beings are complex and two facts can be true at once - having no bearing on the other’s veracity. 🤦🏻♂️
@Kevin L Reading comprehension obviously not your strong suit. Pete went for the low hanging fruit and contributed nothing to the conversation. Pete is an idiot who is around for the *gotcha* and not for the actual discussion.
Now you’re here pretending I’m upset and trying to defend Pete 🤡
What a silly person you must be
So many "emotional scenes" in so many movies, but this one makes me tear up every time for some reason.
Such a well done scene, and Pratt nails the wide range of emotions.
2:05 Pitt almost breaks after that joke XD
Pitt was awesome in this
Pratt was really good also. He's such an underrated actor. He's doing mostly action movies now but I think that he could be a really good dramatic actor also.
Gunner 249 He wasn't there. He was a figment of Scott's imagination. He realizes this after he hits the home run. The first rule about Moneyball is, You do not.talk about Moneyball.
Yeah, he was brilliant. People don't give him much credit as an actor because of his looks but he's a darn good actor and this was one of his finest moments.
Brad one of the most versatile actors ever.
"It's not that hard Scott - tell him Wash"
"It's incredibly hard." 😂
I watched this film years ago and I had no idea that Chris Pratt played this character, it was before I knew who he was. Amazing revelation today!
This is how great Brad is… he talks in such a clear cut and straightforward manner and his co-stars interject with lines that make jokes in between. 😂
That family hug at the end of this scene is awesome.
2:19-2:22
"What about the fans?"
"Yeah, maybe I could teach one of them."
"The fans d - good one."
BRILLIANT interactions.
I’m almost 100% sure it was improvised by Pitt
My favorite Brad Pitt performance ever! He played the everyday baseball office man so well and came across as always very sympathetic character. A super good sports movie!
Agreed. He is great in so many roles but this is his best performance. Love most of his characters and no exception here either.
Ron Washington is such an interesting character. The actor playing him is Brent Jennings, who has been a bit part actor for near 40 years in TV and film. Never much more than a guest spot or ancillary characters. I really love what he did with this part.
3:04, There is something so soothing about them hugging it out as a family together at the end. And the look on the wife's face..
One of the things I loved about this film was how you got a glimpse into the lives of the ballplayers and what they wanted besides what you usally hear about through the filter of the media. Hatterberg wanted to play well enough to support his family, Justice wanted to stay in the game as long as possible, and Chad Bradford wanted to finally get a damn shot and to not be looked down on because of his pitching style.
Shane McNelis and Zito, Hudson and Mulder want to be recognized for what they did on this team.
@@TheSjuris Imagine winning a Cy Young and Not getting featured in this movie
@@kainashhsu imagine neither the book or movie had anything to do with the pitching staff.
@@TheSjuris The book did mention the Big 3 tho
@@kainashhsu Can’t mention everything in a movie. They only have so much time and so much money.
Brent Jennings absolutely kills me in this scene. "Yeah, maybe I can teach one of them," in such a deadpan, serious, tone.
"It isn't that hard" without skipping a beat "It's incredibly hard!"
Scott hatteberg had a long career. Over 15 years in the show. Even after playing for Oakland, played longer with the Reds. He did well for himself!
these nobodies were people that were known...they did not find like 21 year olds or bums who never played in the big games...thats why moneyball worked...you could trust these dudes like justice giambi and scott plus mabry and durham even bradford
"Its not that hard. tell 'em Walsh". "Its incredibly hard". LOL
Its Wash, as in Ron Washington.
yeah, it was "wash" as in Gene Washington coach of the Oakland A's, who actually played in the movie as himself and would later MANAGE the Texas Rangers to 2 WORLD SERIES.
@@samuelmoulds1016 It's Ron Washington......not Gene Washington. If you're going to take the time to write up a comment and leave it on a video, the least you could do is make sure you're not passing along bogus facts that aren't remotely true
+Zachary Vroom
I spoke to Samuel by phone and he apologizes for the confusion as Gerry is the name of Ron Washington's wife. Apparently Sam slit his wrists after reading your comment and almost bled out in the tub with a half empty bottle of vodka floating in the bloody froth.
RIP Sam, Walsh, Gerry, and Gene
Probably one of my favorite scenes in the whole movie. So much emotion displayed with each character and how Scott’s emotions change from the beginning of the scene to the end. It’s done so real that it really hits you with a good feeling of hope by the end of the scene.
My favorite thing about that scene is the hug he gives his wife. He was depressed thinking the one thing he did his whole life was over, but was given a lifeline.
For an additional 7 years too!
I couldn't imagine the transition of feeling despair to pure joy in that moment. I'm just glad that I've actually witnessed this with several friends in my life.
I love this scene - everything about it.
“It’s not that hard, Scott.”
‘It’s incredibly hard.’
Momentary pause, looks over, “Anything worth doing is.”
The A’s signed Hatteberg to a one-year contract worth just under $1 million. I think 950k.
He most definitely lived up to Beane's expectations at the plate in 2002, boasting a .280/.374/.433 slash line with a career-high 15 home runs and 61 RBI. Of course, he happened to hit one of the most iconic home runs in A's history, a walk-off fucking blast against Kansas City to give Oakland its 20th consecutive win, setting an American League record at the time!!!! Crazy!!
The A's kept Hatteberg around for three more years, paying him a total of just $7.05 million over the 4 seasons
This is one of my favorite parts of this movie. It's the feeling of being saved at the end. That part where you feel your prayers have been answered and you are just happy it happened before your world already ended.
I love how this scene sets up Scott's situation in total silence, just cutting between him and his wife. He's sitting there looking dejected, she's sitting there at the table looking at him. Is she dealing with bills, figuring out how they will pay them now? Maybe. It leaves everything unsaid (even unshown - no tracking shots of newspaper articles about his high school exploits, then his tragic injury, etc.) , it just leaves you, in a couple of shots that take maybe 10 seconds, with a sense of a family's life in crisis.
Yes, the beauty of the movie, everything is there to be seen in the details without words.
That is the director's skill - to set the actors up so they can put in all the stuff that cannot be put into the bare script.
I am pretty sure they were able to pay their bills since he was already earning a 7 figure the year he lost his contract.
@@Puschit1 If you know anything about athletes or pretty much anyone in a high pay, high risk job, then it's that most of them spend money expecting their yearly earnings to keep increasing without adequately taking the risk factors into account. It happens even more frequently for actors, they get one or two big roles with a big payout and then three years later when the roles offered ran out they are dead broke.
Also just from a story telling perspective, the wife obviously wouldn't be shown going over bills if paying them wasn't a concern for the family.
@@RandomCarrot2806 If that was the case here they would have shown us a more luxury type of house. It wasn't bad but certainly not one you'd expect from guy that keeps on overspending. He also didn't seem to be the type of character that would do this. Beamen? Sure! But Rooney?
IF what you describe was intended to be Rooney's background, then they did a bad job hinting at that.
that's probably one of my favorite scenes in the entire movie.
Juuuust what I was looking for..
...I needed my eyes to tear up.
Right on :)
Steven Clement This and the home run scene.
a team with barry zito tim Hudson Miguel Tejada Jermaine dye and eric Chavez and yet they choose to focus on hattenburg and david justice?...wtf....this movie is playing non sports fans like a violin..just saying...if you know nothing about how stacked the A's roster still was then of course you will buy into the films stats premise but in reality they lost 2 good players but they still had a great team just not as good and they still lost to the Yankees who had a huger payroll and could afford more players and mistakes cause its an inexact science ....it still takes players and luck and skill..you cant just win with stats...
Asmosis Jones The book explains what made those guys, especially Zito and Hudson, undervalued. Zito was let go by the Rangers and then the Padres because he didn't throw fast enough. Hudson was only 6'0.
Beane fleeced the Royals for Jermaine Dye.
Tejada was drafted by the A's in 1997, the first year Beane was there.
The plan was for the Athletics to keep these guys and let them play like stars under their rookie contracts and pre-arbitration, since it would cost a ton of money that Oakland didn't have, to keep them later on.
As compensation for letting the big names leave in free agency, the A's received a first round that they would use to start the cycle over again.
That is nice and all, but the bottom line is Oakland never won a World Series and that is what its all about. Does not matter how great your drafting was and how many great deals you pull off. Did they ever win it all? No. Second is as good as last.
Why do I love this movie? It reminds me of when I loved baseball. I’m 82, played and watched . Haven’t watched since Derick jeter retired
This scene and the scene where Pete and Billy first use the data
Billy: Pete, do I care how fast he runs?"
Pete: No, you do not.
Billy: No, I do not.