Seek & Find👀🔦: Why You Can NEVER Have A "TUCKED IN" Elbow | EVERY SHOOTER HAS A ELBOW FLARE! 🏀
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- If you pay attention to many shooters (even the greats) you will begin to find out that even they too have a bit of a chicken wing on their shot... a major one is something i dont recommend, but if you have just a mini one, don't be upset or quick to change it... let your body flow.... Click the video for more.
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Be sure to like the video!! But in all honesty do you guys get what I’m saying?! It’s time to break these myths!!
Can u do a mike conley shooting form
If this comment gets 200 likes I’ll do it
Look at conley man so inspirational
Like the comment to make 200, guys!
look at mike man so inspirational
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Facts - so many shooting myths (elbow in, turn to the rim, no palm) that old school coaches keep teaching to young players. Keep spreading the knowledge.
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you mean it's wrong to hold it on your fingers?
@@franoze3286 no but in the art of shooting after watching all of jp vids u can be a palm shooter like dame :)
You have such good knowledge man it’s crazy.. all thru out last summer I was trying to find the “perfect” shooting form with straight elbow and all that but after a while I finally found what works for me and I’ve been practicing with that form since then. I have a little elbow flare but my shot is wet so that’s wassup!!
Yes!!!!🔥
I think the whole point of the tucked elbow thing is just to RAISE your elbow alined with the axis of your shoulder. Most people who haven't refined shooting mechanics shoot with their elbow out of plane with their shoulder. The Dame example exemplifies this perfectly. If you trace a line from his shoulder to his elbow they remain alined through the whole shot, even if his elbow goes out a little. Very subtle but impactful.
I have a little elbow flare but I’m comfortable with it and it gives me a boost
not only everybody has an elbow flare but also we all can’t have our elbows tucked in because it’s not realistic like in game not everybody gonna have an tucked in elbow shooting in game thx for letting us know jp :)
Mad respect for pointing this out
Great video, I've been trying to make my elbow straight to the rim when I shoot but now I know it's impossible
Yesssahhh! As long as we try to have it at least accurately to the rim that’s all that matters!
Funny none of the great shooters shoot the way that is traditionally taught. Old school is out!
Yesssirrr! Time to teach the next gen what’s RIGHT!
it depends, some ppl have their set point above their right shoulder, like matt bonner or larry bird, so their elbows are straight. if like most ppl, you have the set point in front and above your right eye, of course your elbow has to turn to allow the ball to get to that position. and secondly, most shooters turn their body to the left a bit so their elbow can point at the rim, when your body is facing left but elbow is pointing forward, and turn inward if set point if on right eye, it gives the illusion of chicken wing. in reality, its all about the elbow pointing at the rim, not the eblows' position relative to your body.
I used to shoot with the elbow completely perpendicular to floor level (my first coach was very old-school and sorta made me do that) but that really limited my capability to go next level: I was only able to release comfortably when wide open and it was extremely difficult to have a straight follow-through when taking an off-dribblee shot after initiating body contacts. I think as long as you feel comfortable with your release and the ball goes straight to the direction that you aim for, you should be good and practice towards keeping the form consistent (unfortunatly I am now having trouble doing that, after changing my form, can use a lot of help here, pls comment below)
P.S. though difficult, but there were some great shooter/scorer that shot with elbow completely tucked in at high-level competition: check out Dirk, Nash and Yi Jianlian (not great in NBA but was putting big number in FIBA matches). Luka Doncic's elbow is very close to completely tucked in as well, and he compensate that by tilting his body to the sideway, by a lot.
Please can we get a cam Thomas breakdown
My elbow fare used to be extreme
Glad you fixed it!
It’s more of the alignment of finger facing the rim than it is elbow. Keep your finger facing the rim on catch, up through shot and follow through. As for palm shooting please don’t. You miss harder, left and right and you lose accuracy for the added power. Keep everything on finger tips fellas, max control over power.
How would you flick the ball straight
Thank you!
Good video mayen
I can see why you would conclude that based on the shooters you use as an example. As a coach, and graduate basketball player, I can tell you that you are mistaken when it comes to "tension" on the arm. The tension on the arm you are experiencing is because you haven't yet developed that comfortable range of motion for that arm yet... it takes a long time to build that up. I have that range of motion so that my muscles in my arm and forearm are relaxed while my elbow is perfectly in front of me. Now that tension you speak of I can experience when I attempt to play a violin with my other arm as where the elbow should ideally be I simply don't have the range to even get there so all the muscles in my arm get pretty tight. It's just about developing that flexibility to be relaxed in that appropriate position. I had one season where I couldn't use my left arm due to an injury so I shoot really well single handedly.
Also another thing to notice is every shooter you pointed out is compensating for their tilted angle by having their other hand on top.
As a coach I'm still going to teach proper form. Sure, it's fine to develop techniques you can master that aren't proper form for a standard shot. But your best advantage to maximize your efficiency and ease of accuracy is to develop good form with your elbow straight in front of you. If you want to master it any other way, you have to work much harder for it.
hey! interested in getting your two cents on this. This is going to sound wordy with lots of biomechanics jargon:
Are you able to describe the ranges of motion required to reduce elbow flare (what and how to make more mobile)?
Intuitively, I’d think increasing your shoulder external rotation would be important here. However, an online sport physio described Steph’s follow through as having adequate internal rotation. I’m not sure how this translates to your shoulder being in max flexion and in front of you.
@@LuZu_ My recommendation for improving your range of motion for proper form on this is rather simple.
Start with your arm in the form of a goose neck, with your elbow slightly up so that it can move in front of you (roughly a 45 degree angle down from your shoulder to your elbow) ... this form might be the shape of a number 2 if you're pointing your fingers forward. Once you have this shape next you want to take your shoulder blades (scapula) and do a scap squeeze bringing you shoulder blades together at your spine. While holding that swing your arm in to in front of you. You'll essentially be stretching by bringing your elbow towards your sternum and your scapula towards your spine. This stretches your shoulder muscles and your traps. When you do the stretch start relaxed, arm form first, scap squeeze second, elbow in third, hold stretch 2-3 seconds. Then rest the muscles, reset, and move it around to relax the muscle tension. Repeat this to help yourself also learn the muscle movements.
Once your mind is familiar with this form add a basketball in and practice shooting one handed with your middle finger pointing to the hoop just after the shot. Repeated practice shooting in this way will help your muscles to become more relaxed with the form. And the key to developing perfect form with your shooting arm is to shoot as if you only had one arm with the elbow always in a straight line under your hand.
great video! really interesting!
Thanks! Be sure to like the video and share!🔥
For me, I prefer shooting with it more straight, with the tiniest tilt. Like Klay Thompson. I used to shoot with a flare, but I’m better now it’s more straight. Still a good video though.
yo jp u think you can make a vid for strength and conditioning i feel like the ball feels heavy in my hands after i pick it up off the dribble luv the vids💯
Ball feels heavy?
@@JezPhipps pause. but i feel like i can’t get it off as quick off the dribble but i probably need to get in more reps🤷🏽♂️😭
Are you saying your pick ups into your shot is bad?
@@JezPhipps yeah that’s what it is but if it’s off a jab step my 3 ball is money or if i was shooting a midrange of the dribble im money it’s jus 3’s of a dribble is my problem
Do Klay have a straight elbow
Hey JP how do you make consistent jumpers under pressure,I struggle with this a lot because I can make them in practice and not in games
Work on shooting with a hand running in your face + play more games!
Depends...check Bird, Nash, Fisher...
Bird had a slight elbow flare... now I will say fisher did have that “perfect tucked in” elbow but let’s really take a look at his shot.... don’t even have to watch film on him it looks very stiff based off of photos lol
Hello JP!
Can you do Drazen Petrovič shooting form breakdown?
YESSIR!!
Great video! Recently I saw a picture of me shooting and got a little concerned about my elbow being out. I never had problems with accuracy, felt comfortable shooting and getting my shot off. But still I tried shooting with a straight elbow for a week and never felt even remotely comfortable so I went out looking for answers. I agree with your thinking and this video clarified a lot of doubts I had. First player that comes to my mind that actually shoots with his elbow in and straight hand is James Jones. It's very clear to see in a video where he participates in a 3 point shooting contest.
Even James harden shoots the same a straight elbow needs a high set point and a tilt look at Jordan or kobe and u r right few people can actually shoot straight
Well a lot of the great shooters can shoot straight, but if you’re referring to shooters who actually have a straight “tucked in fully” elbow then yes. There are a few... other than that guys like Harden and more have a slight elbow flare on their jumper.
Hi JP this comment might not get alot of comments but Cam Thomas from LSU has a unique form please can you do a video on his form
sir jp can i request you to blog the perfect form of feet and hips on shooting
Check out this video - ua-cam.com/video/Tbzn-L-IDcY/v-deo.html
Hey im 15 , do you know how to get more stamina when we got injured (knees) thanks for the content
If you got injured knees, you should not be worried about a “secret” drill to improve your stamina. Get back to being healthy so you can become even better than before!
Do bear crawls rn if ur legs hurts those are killer
@@JezPhipps thanks for the response keep going 🔥
Hello Can i ask how Can i fix my elbow if its so much locked into rim a ball doesnt faceing rim?
jason tatum has a tucked in elbow
When I started playing basketball i use to have good shooting from like i have high arc very arc &i shoot from downtown i mean from far even i don't jump when i shoot from far blc it have high arc so bad i started to change my form ever bay from that day my shooting form start to change if you ask me why I changed my form blc i have high arc & all that stuff but i don't make shoot my form looks good it always hits front of rim and rotate in air like it stays in air for sec but now even I can't shoot from free throw with out jump i always make airball and i can't shoot the way i want & blc i was change my form my muscle memory is gone i can't shoot from 3 point line before I always shoot from nba 3 point line with out jump everyone was impressed by the way i shoot in my arc but when I shoot from 3 point it feels like I'm shooting from half court . Is it possible to remember my form like my muscle memory and set point was above i don't know how i learn that i use to shoot from my hair line but now I shoot from my chest or shoulder and i need improve my form to make to a team coach tell me to improve otherwise I'll not make to the team i was so confident with my old from even trying to shoot from 34 feet for real and i changed my form blc i miss 3 point it always hits front of rim I was good in free throws blc when I shoot i don't jump so it was not difficult for me to shoot make free throw but know my whole from is bad if you have any tips or advice if you read this thanks i always watch your videos God bless you
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@@JezPhipps make a vid how to blow by defenders bro by using off arm
W video
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Jp can you make a vid or have a vid on keeping your wrist stright to the rim without the releasing the ball and miss left or right or it coming off the worng way or finger plz i need a lot of help with my and can also can you give me the link on why my shoots come up short i think you a vid on that thxs 😁
Please check out my shooting playlist. You’ll have almost everything and more in there.
@@JezPhipps ok
@@JezPhipps thx jp i been on your channel like i should i should rember this stuff XD i was there in when " Its yo boi jp in the closet when it was jp had to move my bed just to dribbling inside XDDD"
Good timeS😂🔥
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Steph usually has tucked in elbow like fully, watch him in in 3pt contest.
Hmmmm.... fully!? Na
@@AT-qx1qd just watch it
Its tucked, but not fully tucked
What’s ur take on shaq’s saltiness towards the current generation and style of play. Thx keep the content up🐐
He hasn't grown with the game. Hes an "oldhead"
It is what it is.... no matter what I’ll take new school over old any day!🤷🏽♂️
i think shaq criticism is just a way of telling the player a good job and a new challenge . He makes it seem like he hates the player to motivate the player
So how can I work on getting my elbow having a mimi flar I find myself having a straight elbow and forearm how can I change that
Well first things first... if you can shoot with it then you’re fine! This video is pretty much to spread awareness that a mini tilt isn’t bad
Bro what is it about the best shooters ie curry/dame that puts them so far above even the 2nd best shooters like beal, dbook, etc. they all do very similar things and the form looks so similar yet some people are just so gifted. Or..... it could just be they’ve done so many more reps than the guys who are good but not elite. Thoughts?
Definitely a lot of time putting up shots but it’s also about the mental! Being mentally strong after missing 100 shots in row (just an example) but you still believe you’ll make the next one is what really separates the good from the great!
it’s also the elite coaching and physio staff that are able to personalise to their unique body mechanics.
Now what part are you supposed to align with the basket? Sorry if I missed it in the vid.
Align? Well we should turn out feet away from the basket to allow our shooting side to face the basket , more info here-
ua-cam.com/video/t3CUk9_6KU4/v-deo.html
• but... overall the main key for this video was to explain that almost every shooter has a slight elbow flare and that it’s ok... it’s natural!
@@JezPhipps bet appreciate the feedback
@@JezPhipps what I meant by align was do you want your shooting elbow facing towards the rim.
Well by turning your feet that’ll help align your shooting elbow to the rim. This whole video was just to notify you guys that if it’s not 100% straight to the rim it’s ok! Pretty much everyone has a slight elbow flare in their jumper and it’s ok!
I have a question
So ive always been a very good mid range shooter and im more of a small bouncy guard so when i shoot my mid range shots i jump high its more like a daeshun ruffin type of shot
But ive never really been too great at threes and ive started seeing success making threes after some changes but now my 3pt shot is so much more different than my mid range shot where its more of like a low elevation damian lillard type shot
what should i do?
I dont know if i should try to make my 3 pt shot more like my mid range shot
Or
If i should make my mid range shot more like my 3 pt shot
Or
If i should keep it the way it is (which i dont know if i should because the 2 jumpshots are very different from eachother)
Also another thing to consider is im a short guard
so if i jump high im less likely to get blocked and better off the dribble but takes a lot more energy
Whereas
If i jump low its not as tiring but not as good off the dribble and more likely to get blocked
Having two different jumpshots for both the mid range and 3 is vital... I made a video about it here- ua-cam.com/video/_IXlyPKfdaA/v-deo.html
Be sure to check it out but to answer your question, normally players rock with a two motion in the mid range and a one motion from deep.
Guide hand tutorial?
ua-cam.com/video/Qkr7fr2eX5E/v-deo.html
@@JezPhipps why ain't I remember this? Thanks jp 😂
Bro how do you deal with trash talkers. This one dude in pickup on my team kept threatening me because I supposedly wasn’t passing the ball even though I was 4/6 on 3s and lost the ball 3 times. But, somehow other people who haven’t made a single shot and lost the ball many more times than me aren’t getting that. I was finna respond but didn’t wanna escalate it
Sadly it won’t always be roses and tulips... check out this video! ua-cam.com/video/3lDpHEwW4jg/v-deo.html
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Jp i am 12 and shoot like lamelo right now i don’t like it and my set point is on chin
When I get older will my chicken wing get better and will my set point change
Thx
Yes!
Actually have videos on both topics! Check out my shooting playlist!
real thruth
I adopt the elbow flare watching Steph, why? bc he's a great shooter
The elbow flare isn’t something you should try to add.... this videos main purpose is to give you guys some awareness that if you try your best to have a “fully tucked” in elbow but yet it’s not fully tucked, then it’s ok!
if it aint broke don't fix it
Speaking facts!
I was forced to like Alex ojos comment