Keep in mind it’s not so much that you can pack a TOTY from a store pack due to higher odds it’s more so who are you able to pack. I’ve packed Gwinn multiple times so not only is the weight down in the store, the types of players are weighted. Safe to say the company has killed their own game with this sort of nonsense.
I read a tweet from inception who said the gameplay is different whether it be online, or offline. I thought it was bs. Played rivals and the game play was smooth and responsive. Played fut Champs and could barely get a pass through. Went to squad battles and the game play was somewhere in the middle. This game is triggering af
Bro this shit is triggering me, i'm in elite division with 850 SR, and I barely got 10 wins (my average is 11 to 13) because the gameplay was so fuckint shit!!! And the guys who beat me were soooo bad aswell omg literal hardstuck Div 4 players
Yeah i hate that the gameplay differs from mode to mode and time to time, the gameplay on friday is heavy, mid day is different and mostly smoother at dawn because most people aren’t playing that time, multi billion company and servers are inconsistent at all, also in the last month twice i won first fut game and my opponent quits then it doesn’t count, brother i had 3 dcs a while ago I almost got rank 2 one of them i won 6-3 i think then in loading screen post match it kicked me out counting it as a loss💀😂
Thing is, not only is the gameplay different each time you load in to any game...its different for your opponent too. While you have good gameplay, your opponent could be having bad gameplay. Same on the other end, you have bad gameplay, they could have good gameplay. We've even see during the pro streams that the pros don't experience the same gameplay as who they play against.
I agree, call me squad battles merchant but I used to play in F17 every SB game as well as when I came back to FC24 but I never had an issue against bronze teams with 3 golds in them untill this year on legendary. They are so difficult to beat and their AI is unreal. 69 rated team with 70% ball possession. How am I supposed to win? Their defensive awareness is unreal.. Only post patch you can play against them but before that it was a torture. I used to get Elite 1 easily, this year I'm happy if get elite 3 or Gold 1!
Absolutely back this, I was the same, sailed to E1 easy, this year I haven't made E3 once despite playing almost every game on World Class and the odd Legendary. I can only think the cheaters are pushing up the overall score needed.
We all know EA can change the pack weight anytime as EA wants specially saved packs weight are horrendous , i don’t spend money and i have packed 0 TOTY and 0 nominations. But, I will still take 0 dub rather than spend money in the game
I saved all good packs/picks from season 4 and recent sbcs including 86x5, 87x2 etc. about 80 “good” packs. packed hm Gwynn lol I opened 3 88+ store picks (w/coins) and packed Putellas. 100% pack odds are lower on sbc/obj/rewards packs than similar store packs. No wonder the stock price is taking a nose dive.
12:10 I run attacking full back for my lb and Nuno Mendes always tracks back fast. He got a red card so I used my totw Rolfo and in the first 10 mins she was jogging back. I had to change it mid game. Work rates are probably still in the game
@@maestrohimselfrolfo only has 84 pace so i might be that but another thing is its kind of already known that ea can give bad gameplay for one game and the next could be amazing might be what happened
I opened all my good packs, grinded la Liga upgrades, ripped every 88+ pick with coins and didn’t get anything so I was in a F it mood and sold the toty cantona I sniped and ripped store packs with all my coins.. got canavaro and HM messi. I’m happy with what I got cause it’s basically a toty in my eyes and the the fodder helped me complete foden for free.
funny thing is both came from the guaranteed packs (icon/HM and the other HM guarantee pack) so even with me ripping all the big store packs I technically didn’t pack a toty
In my saved packs I got Mbappe from a 82x14 and Bellingham from a 84x5. I then used coins to buy the 88 player pick in the store and packed Rodri in the first one, Martinez in the second and then Reiten in the third one. 3 in a row. Then yesterday I got Carvajal in a 83x10 pack at 6pm refresh. That’s 6 totys. Insane.
You are lucky, most of us don't get any. And I had alot of packs and picks. I just got my team with my coins I already had. Pack luck for me was horrible.
I mean EA is playing games when in a 83x10 you need a 84 rated squad with 1 in-form and you get 9 83s back and 1 84 😵💫😵💫😵💫 less than what you put out.
The only thing i want his exchanges already, the only SBC players i've done his POTM Wirtz and Greenwood and i have so many 88-89 rates cards. To do the crafting upgrade when it's released correctly and a massive amount of 75+ picks.
Letting us pack a decent promo card would be a good way to retain players. Most promo's I usually pack mid tier cards...this 1 u get nothing lol. Can't think of another game that releases content that is unobtainable to 80% of the player base.
ok the problem is not ea its the newer players so many people think that they deserve totys but in reality only 5% of the player base should have them. i have played since fifa 17 and this year is my first year i packed a toty. totys are meant to be hard to pack if you do not like that do not play simple
I'll say what you're thinking about HMs...they are basically team of the week versions of cards they have on the market. Lauto is 200k extra than his Centurions, whats being paid for is an extra PS+ and roles. Banda is free but all thats different for her and her best card is roles. HMs don't look like they are players who are nominees which is sad bc a few of them are more deserving performance wise than some who did become team of the year. Horan is only like 60k more than her TB SBC and that arguably has a better PS+. Would've been better had that card been Incisive plus and pinged plus not incisive and aerial. Pedri looks literally just like a team of the week upgrade over his team of the week upgrade...his only non gold card.
Imagine this for icon picks/packa, and having stats on which players are being pulled and at what rate. Feel like ea clearly messes with what icons are going to be popping at what times !
I use FC Enhancer since FC24 and it is amazing. Without it i wouldnt be able to grind so much SBC content. I saved all my coins since the Beginning and didnt do any SBC with coins. Just Untrade SBC fodder. Because of that i was able to get that Hansen toty for 5.9m today morning. Im really happy that the grind and saving every coin let me to being able to buy a Hansen Toty off the Market. Like i said, FC Enhancer is the ultimate way to grind the Menus. You can let it open 100s of Bronze PAcks automatically and AFK so i can do other stuff while Upgrades, opening Packs etc. I think im at around 2.000 Bronze to silver upgrades done.
Can confirm, trivela + isn’t that useful. Got stupid lucky and got TOTY Hansen out of a season pass player pick, and I don’t think I’ve scored a single one with her yet. Even green timed ones either hit the post, or just get saved. Maybe with precision shooting it’s better, but idk
I completed 2 matches in drafts, then changed from 6 down to 4 minute halves and completed the remaining 2 matches. It didn't kick me out. On reddit, it seems only the people who changed it down to 3 minute halves are experiencing issues.
Can confirm, trivela + isn’t that useful. Got stupid lucky and got TOTY Hansen out of a season pass player pick, and I don’t think I’ve scored a single one with her yet.
I’m in elite division and what I’ve noticed is trivelas at least from far range work a lot better when running in a straight line and not at the angle havnt tested it with trivela+ tho
I opened all my small packs & packed nada. First 83x10 & boom CR7 😂 still have a ton of big packs left to open & im halfway through Bale. First team is gonna be insane now 😅
There’s probably code that tried to make up for servers and maybe there is even code that adjusts the game to intently irritate you so you change players and burn coins
how many times i have to say it ? the inconsistent gameplays is DDA related ... in the friendly is a game type .. max pass max boost etc .. defence 30% less when you scor in the 5 mins .. 50% less when you double in the fisrt 15 mins etc
EA dropped 7% in their financial report, and at the same time sets 7% on pack odds yesterday in the store for a TOTY. I use the tool you mentioned - have not tried the Pale what it is called...I dont pay the premium... but yeah.... the pack odds for grinding versus the store is crazy. EA seems to reall really want us to get to the store and buy from their... crazy how nerfed the grinding rewards are for the toty.
I literally feel like I'm getting sabotaged in FC 25.. Yesterday at first I went 5-0 in Champs with smooth responsive gameplay. In the 6th game there's a huge delay in everything and I lost like 3 games in a row because of it and at the end I got only 10 wins again. It's so annoying to lose games because of this BS. Is it my PC or are other suffering from this kind of BS?
I got 2 toty in the 88x1+ 20 got Renard cb and then next pack got honorable mentions maignan I’ve also gotten emi Martinez from an 81x2 idk the odds are weird bro😭😭😭
disgusting that we are now seeing the same big creators that 'boycott' fifa points are opening gazillion packs promoting fifa pts for stores to their audience..
about inconsistent gameplay, i played up this guy twice in an hour, in the first match i won 8-1, and in the second match i lost 6-7. same team same player, so i assume its just the gameplay
Ok so is this illegal? Essentially you are required to pay to have a fair chance at the players so they are nearly forcing gambling behavior. Also, they don't indicate pack odds on saved packs only store packs. Should be available on both and
idk if it’s just me but does anyone else have a glitch on draft where on the last game against ai it just glitches out and the whole team just huddle up in the corner then kicks you out?
all of sbc during toty are a scam compared to Sawa from last year ... not even 10% meta compared to Sawa which i used until summer when the other Sawa came out
1% would mean that for every 100 one pops out.. obviously doing 100 wouldn't guarantee YOU one, but that'd be the drop rate.. 100 upgrades is way cheaper than the cheapest TOTY (except the goalkeepers)
@@marklait4537 Actually thats not how pack odds work. It just means every time you open a pack you would have a 1% chance. It doesn't stack. In short, you are just as likely to pack a TOTY on the 1st pack as you are the 100th.
@@sputnikboy22 I never said that they stack.. I specifically said that doing 100 at 1% odds wouldn't guarantee you one.. you could do 10k at 1% and still not get one.. but the drop weight WOULD still be 1 in every 100 ACROSS ALL USERS.. so thanks for talking to me as if I'm an idiot when you just didn't read what I wrote
As per usual this promo SUCKS, yes sucks. You can't pull anyone, im not even after toty, just some HM for sbc. Which i might add are really fucking meh. If you're gonna make them average at least let us pull loads of them. Ill be fine with same pull over and over. This one of the worst toty and promo this game.
I think it’s time to start buying 88 rated cards for evos. This is probably the low point and I think we might start seeing evos for them within 2 weeks of toty ending.
EA bout to go back to their old bad habits. And this is a 100% cause of all the people buying points :/ but not their fault rather the greedy EA piggy is back. Also menu grinding is almost non existent, not counting league upgrade method cause that’s way too time and energy consuming. But they’re pushing everyone to buying store packs.
Reading all your comments makes me happy i didnt buy fc25 . My sanity has improved 100% and i dont miss the greedy pig thats ea . I still hope you all pack a toty .
these odds can't be accurate... 0.03% is WAY too high!!!!!!!!!
😂
I got Rodri I won’t complain haha
You can't expect to pack a toty from those joke sbc's. You have more chance of anal entry with Jennifer Aniston.
Keep in mind it’s not so much that you can pack a TOTY from a store pack due to higher odds it’s more so who are you able to pack. I’ve packed Gwinn multiple times so not only is the weight down in the store, the types of players are weighted. Safe to say the company has killed their own game with this sort of nonsense.
I opened alot and 0 toty for me it's 0.00000000003 %
But the market is full of them😂
I read a tweet from inception who said the gameplay is different whether it be online, or offline. I thought it was bs. Played rivals and the game play was smooth and responsive. Played fut Champs and could barely get a pass through. Went to squad battles and the game play was somewhere in the middle. This game is triggering af
Bro this shit is triggering me, i'm in elite division with 850 SR, and I barely got 10 wins (my average is 11 to 13) because the gameplay was so fuckint shit!!! And the guys who beat me were soooo bad aswell omg literal hardstuck Div 4 players
Yeah i hate that the gameplay differs from mode to mode and time to time, the gameplay on friday is heavy, mid day is different and mostly smoother at dawn because most people aren’t playing that time, multi billion company and servers are inconsistent at all, also in the last month twice i won first fut game and my opponent quits then it doesn’t count, brother i had 3 dcs a while ago I almost got rank 2 one of them i won 6-3 i think then in loading screen post match it kicked me out counting it as a loss💀😂
Thing is, not only is the gameplay different each time you load in to any game...its different for your opponent too. While you have good gameplay, your opponent could be having bad gameplay. Same on the other end, you have bad gameplay, they could have good gameplay. We've even see during the pro streams that the pros don't experience the same gameplay as who they play against.
@@AnubisTGASports damn. Good point. I never even thought about the other person playing.
Welcome to online gaming bro XD
I agree, call me squad battles merchant but I used to play in F17 every SB game as well as when I came back to FC24 but I never had an issue against bronze teams with 3 golds in them untill this year on legendary. They are so difficult to beat and their AI is unreal. 69 rated team with 70% ball possession. How am I supposed to win? Their defensive awareness is unreal.. Only post patch you can play against them but before that it was a torture. I used to get Elite 1 easily, this year I'm happy if get elite 3 or Gold 1!
Absolutely back this, I was the same, sailed to E1 easy, this year I haven't made E3 once despite playing almost every game on World Class and the odd Legendary. I can only think the cheaters are pushing up the overall score needed.
I agree bro squad battles are horrible this year
Icl bro it's a skill issue, I beat those teams 20-0
@MackyBclips lol
We all know EA can change the pack weight anytime as EA wants specially saved packs weight are horrendous , i don’t spend money and i have packed 0 TOTY and 0 nominations. But, I will still take 0 dub rather than spend money in the game
I’m with you bro I’ll spend coins I earn from playing and selling rather than my money
Ea "there's a 0.3% chance of packing a TOTY"
Lloyd Christmas " so you're telling me there's a chance !"
I saved all good packs/picks from season 4 and recent sbcs including 86x5, 87x2 etc. about 80 “good” packs. packed hm Gwynn lol
I opened 3 88+ store picks (w/coins) and packed Putellas. 100% pack odds are lower on sbc/obj/rewards packs than similar store packs. No wonder the stock price is taking a nose dive.
12:10 I run attacking full back for my lb and Nuno Mendes always tracks back fast. He got a red card so I used my totw Rolfo and in the first 10 mins she was jogging back. I had to change it mid game. Work rates are probably still in the game
She might have been jogging back because EA screwed her on stamina, I think she only has 81 or 82 which is not enough for attacking FB 😂
@zambizi2174 she does have role++ for attacking wingback and it was the first 10 minutes, who knows really
@@maestrohimselfrolfo only has 84 pace so i might be that but another thing is its kind of already known that ea can give bad gameplay for one game and the next could be amazing might be what happened
I saw a video of Danny Aarons refusing to buy a store pack because he rather buy his daughter things.
I watched him spend 500+ on the 89 lightning round in 10 mins yesterday XD
@nickoverbeekesneaky sick.
Hes a millionaire it dont matter
lol
@@isaacverrall8782but it does
I opened all my good packs, grinded la Liga upgrades, ripped every 88+ pick with coins and didn’t get anything so I was in a F it mood and sold the toty cantona I sniped and ripped store packs with all my coins.. got canavaro and HM messi. I’m happy with what I got cause it’s basically a toty in my eyes and the the fodder helped me complete foden for free.
messi is basically a toty enjoy
funny thing is both came from the guaranteed packs (icon/HM and the other HM guarantee pack) so even with me ripping all the big store packs I technically didn’t pack a toty
In my saved packs I got Mbappe from a 82x14 and Bellingham from a 84x5. I then used coins to buy the 88 player pick in the store and packed Rodri in the first one, Martinez in the second and then Reiten in the third one. 3 in a row. Then yesterday I got Carvajal in a 83x10 pack at 6pm refresh. That’s 6 totys. Insane.
You are lucky, most of us don't get any. And I had alot of packs and picks. I just got my team with my coins I already had. Pack luck for me was horrible.
I mean EA is playing games when in a 83x10 you need a 84 rated squad with 1 in-form and you get 9 83s back and 1 84 😵💫😵💫😵💫 less than what you put out.
I opened 500 packs and not even HM! 30x85+ was horrible. I hate this game
Opened 20+ 83+ x5, 90 procent were 84s and 83s. 😁👍
The only thing i want his exchanges already, the only SBC players i've done his POTM Wirtz and Greenwood and i have so many 88-89 rates cards.
To do the crafting upgrade when it's released correctly and a massive amount of 75+ picks.
Do foden, bale or kdb
Letting us pack a decent promo card would be a good way to retain players. Most promo's I usually pack mid tier cards...this 1 u get nothing lol. Can't think of another game that releases content that is unobtainable to 80% of the player base.
ok the problem is not ea its the newer players so many people think that they deserve totys but in reality only 5% of the player base should have them. i have played since fifa 17 and this year is my first year i packed a toty. totys are meant to be hard to pack if you do not like that do not play simple
The live stream was fantastic. Watching you got me 2 HM and a 12 woman as well as so much fodder.
So thanks for the entertainment and luck :D
I'll say what you're thinking about HMs...they are basically team of the week versions of cards they have on the market. Lauto is 200k extra than his Centurions, whats being paid for is an extra PS+ and roles. Banda is free but all thats different for her and her best card is roles. HMs don't look like they are players who are nominees which is sad bc a few of them are more deserving performance wise than some who did become team of the year. Horan is only like 60k more than her TB SBC and that arguably has a better PS+. Would've been better had that card been Incisive plus and pinged plus not incisive and aerial. Pedri looks literally just like a team of the week upgrade over his team of the week upgrade...his only non gold card.
How’s your Toure evo coming along? I did the 3 non TOTY evos first and just started the TOTY evos. He is so much fun
Imagine this for icon picks/packa, and having stats on which players are being pulled and at what rate. Feel like ea clearly messes with what icons are going to be popping at what times !
Bro there were toty crafting upgrades yesterday and I put some fodder into them, will there be compensation.
OG's will remember the "Birthday Incident" on the TOTY Livestream
I use FC Enhancer since FC24 and it is amazing. Without it i wouldnt be able to grind so much SBC content.
I saved all my coins since the Beginning and didnt do any SBC with coins. Just Untrade SBC fodder. Because of that i was able to get that Hansen toty for 5.9m today morning.
Im really happy that the grind and saving every coin let me to being able to buy a Hansen Toty off the Market.
Like i said, FC Enhancer is the ultimate way to grind the Menus. You can let it open 100s of Bronze PAcks automatically and AFK so i can do other stuff while Upgrades, opening Packs etc. I think im at around 2.000 Bronze to silver upgrades done.
Can confirm, trivela + isn’t that useful. Got stupid lucky and got TOTY Hansen out of a season pass player pick, and I don’t think I’ve scored a single one with her yet. Even green timed ones either hit the post, or just get saved. Maybe with precision shooting it’s better, but idk
I completed 2 matches in drafts, then changed from 6 down to 4 minute halves and completed the remaining 2 matches. It didn't kick me out. On reddit, it seems only the people who changed it down to 3 minute halves are experiencing issues.
Can confirm, trivela + isn’t that useful. Got stupid lucky and got TOTY Hansen out of a season pass player pick, and I don’t think I’ve scored a single one with her yet.
I’m in elite division and what I’ve noticed is trivelas at least from far range work a lot better when running in a straight line and not at the angle havnt tested it with trivela+ tho
opened all my saved packs. Did not pack anything but Fodder, and im halfway done with bale and abily SBC
Ugh abily
I opened all my small packs & packed nada. First 83x10 & boom CR7 😂 still have a ton of big packs left to open & im halfway through Bale.
First team is gonna be insane now 😅
It’s my bday 🎉 👀
Can’t wait for the TOTS stream👀👀
There’s probably code that tried to make up for servers and maybe there is even code that adjusts the game to intently irritate you so you change players and burn coins
I packed a gold Mbappe from Laliga upgrades and it says 0.04% chance. So is that basically as rare as a TOTY?
I packed toty Salah from one of them and so far have packed Vinicius although he was from a store pack that I used coins to buy.
Is not fair that whit shop packs you can get easy toty and tradeable aswell , this is the problem..
Do you think the EA employee responsible for the crafting obj/sbc accidentally leaves home with only 1 shoe on regularly?
The Kane sbc is lethal I put him on poacher and he is great
Best sbc player so far for me has to be showdown cicedo , I've evoed him to 89 and he's insane at cdm holding , plays like prime ya ya toure
I love your vids man I watch every night before I go to bed
That 89 global pack was really juiced Friday friend got bonmati and James and I got putellas
how many times i have to say it ? the inconsistent gameplays is DDA related ... in the friendly is a game type .. max pass max boost etc .. defence 30% less when you scor in the 5 mins .. 50% less when you double in the fisrt 15 mins etc
EA dropped 7% in their financial report, and at the same time sets 7% on pack odds yesterday in the store for a TOTY.
I use the tool you mentioned - have not tried the Pale what it is called...I dont pay the premium... but yeah.... the pack odds for grinding versus the store is crazy. EA seems to reall really want us to get to the store and buy from their... crazy how nerfed the grinding rewards are for the toty.
I packed no totys from store packs but packed three from sbcs and player picks.. it makes no sense these odds.
I literally feel like I'm getting sabotaged in FC 25.. Yesterday at first I went 5-0 in Champs with smooth responsive gameplay. In the 6th game there's a huge delay in everything and I lost like 3 games in a row because of it and at the end I got only 10 wins again. It's so annoying to lose games because of this BS. Is it my PC or are other suffering from this kind of BS?
When is the next live stream? Please do one every month 🙏🏼
Enjoyed the stream!
So in a rng roll of 0-1000, you need to roll a 998, 999 or a 1000.
Thats about a 1 in 333 packs opened chance.
Incorrect, I think you mean 1 in 3,333 packs
Opened 150 pack first day packed 2 toty smith one tradable ‘ gremaldo toty
I got 2 toty in the 88x1+ 20 got Renard cb and then next pack got honorable mentions maignan I’ve also gotten emi Martinez from an 81x2 idk the odds are weird bro😭😭😭
disgusting that we are now seeing the same big creators that 'boycott' fifa points are opening gazillion packs promoting fifa pts for stores to their audience..
about inconsistent gameplay, i played up this guy twice in an hour, in the first match i won 8-1, and in the second match i lost 6-7. same team same player, so i assume its just the gameplay
Think it’s just up ea’s alley because here you see that using money is 100x better then just playing the game….
Ok so is this illegal? Essentially you are required to pay to have a fair chance at the players so they are nearly forcing gambling behavior. Also, they don't indicate pack odds on saved packs only store packs. Should be available on both and
Vieira is the best SBC for me.
Is anyone else having trouble getting on to fc rn?
I got store packs and got nothing
idk if it’s just me but does anyone else have a glitch on draft where on the last game against ai it just glitches out and the whole team just huddle up in the corner then kicks you out?
its a known glitch. Seems to happen more if you've changed the half length time,
kimmich for me he is insane in game
all of sbc during toty are a scam compared to Sawa from last year ... not even 10% meta compared to Sawa which i used until summer when the other Sawa came out
Their gonna go up out of packs for sure they always do
Salma is cracked
Packed Rodri from 81x2 HAHAHA
0.03 is absurd for league upgrades they could at least up it too 1-2%, and on another note how's carvajal also loving the content
1% would mean that for every 100 one pops out.. obviously doing 100 wouldn't guarantee YOU one, but that'd be the drop rate.. 100 upgrades is way cheaper than the cheapest TOTY (except the goalkeepers)
@@marklait4537 oh yeah my mistake
@@marklait4537 Actually thats not how pack odds work. It just means every time you open a pack you would have a 1% chance. It doesn't stack. In short, you are just as likely to pack a TOTY on the 1st pack as you are the 100th.
@@sputnikboy22this is true. It’s crazy how many people don’t understand basic probability.
@@sputnikboy22 I never said that they stack.. I specifically said that doing 100 at 1% odds wouldn't guarantee you one.. you could do 10k at 1% and still not get one.. but the drop weight WOULD still be 1 in every 100 ACROSS ALL USERS.. so thanks for talking to me as if I'm an idiot when you just didn't read what I wrote
luv the vid
lost so many coins on toty. MAde the game even shitter than what it is
Store packs are better duh…. Money?
Samu is amazing
Shit packweight, horrible servers. Can't log in 😂😂
KDB is very good
As per usual this promo SUCKS, yes sucks. You can't pull anyone, im not even after toty, just some HM for sbc. Which i might add are really fucking meh. If you're gonna make them average at least let us pull loads of them. Ill be fine with same pull over and over. This one of the worst toty and promo this game.
Do you think investing into shadows is a good investment? Around 2.9-3.2k at the moment. When do you think they will rise up to sell price?
Best is bale
Love your videos brotha !
abily
I think it’s time to start buying 88 rated cards for evos. This is probably the low point and I think we might start seeing evos for them within 2 weeks of toty ending.
EA bout to go back to their old bad habits. And this is a 100% cause of all the people buying points :/ but not their fault rather the greedy EA piggy is back.
Also menu grinding is almost non existent, not counting league upgrade method cause that’s way too time and energy consuming. But they’re pushing everyone to buying store packs.
Reading all your comments makes me happy i didnt buy fc25 . My sanity has improved 100% and i dont miss the greedy pig thats ea . I still hope you all pack a toty .
Im on pc the harry kane has no playstyle plus he doesnt even have finess
W stream unc
Toty 😂😂 cards are crap😂
They are though you complete jobber. The game is dead though.