i think he should play bang and reps or verhulst take bloodhound cuz he swings a different way and solo a lot lowkey and bang wukd help i feel like as if like horizon like ur saying alil get out of jail card not so much as horizon but ya get wat im saying ? lol
He’s legit the backbone of the team and stabilizes more than just the vibes. I honestly believe Hal would of lost teammates if Jordan wasn’t holding it down
I can't judge Hal because he played Bloodhound poorly🙄but the reason TSM played that way and ended up in 7th place was not only because of him, but Evan, who also played poorly and ended up making individual mistakes in the game 1 to 3. But I'm happy that they won the game 6 and were well positioned in games 4 and 5 Another point is that Hal played for a long time with Horizon outside and inside ALGS and an average amount of time with Wraith, Gibraltar, Seer, Valkyrie, Octane and other characters except❌️Bloodhound where he played very little with this character and didn't even use it for ALGS and yet He didn't really get the hang of it, but if he trains he can improve it. Without hate😉👊🏻
I think Raven will always be a good addition to TSM no matter how people may feel about him. Hal is good at what he dose, although he gets clouded in thinking hes right at times when hes clearly not.
i didnt understand ravens role at first, but then i learned he is a human Apex Meta database. Basically saves alt-tab and google search :D and he's a tactical genius. The sort of guy who can win games without firing a gun.
It's not as easy as you say. You have to choose your fights when it comes to getting kills. What's the point of getting kills if you end up getting thirded and don't make it to top 10. TSM does go for kills, but when the situation asks for it. There's no point in getting a shit ton of kills if you're not getting into top 10.
everyone talks about how hal never takes blame but as soon as a game like game 4 happens, no clips are posted about it, no one talks about it, even though hes taking full blame and apologising, its almost like apex clip channels dont post anything to do with hal taking acountability...
Now to be fair that is super rare lol and idk if it’s a big enough deal to post a clip about it, should be normal. But it is a breath of fresh air for sure
not super rare at all. just super rare its in his videos. He repeatedly takes blames for bad zone calls etc sometimes he doesn't even see his error until explained to him after a discussion to which he realises. @@humansnotbots-y8l
well apex clip channels post a whole video about when hal blames an entire game on his team mate, so why is it not as big of a deal when he blames himself for an entire game? whys that so different?@@humansnotbots-y8l
I really think they should try to work Conduit into their comp… Valkyrie has her spots for rotation but her missile swarm is useless. My favorite comp is Bang/Conduit/Caustic hands down
No caustic isn’t more useful than bloodhound. Conduit is only good early game. Nobody does poke damage for you to just be able to get a reset like that. They only do full finishes. She’s good in ranked because teams allow you to make mistakes and recover from them.
Just like you said valks missile swarm is useless, Caustic in general is useless in storm point. You're better off with wattson. they have already explained why they don't use conduit. Conduit's abilities are useless. I'm not sure if you've watched the comps everyone is running but you have like 3 teams out of 30 running conduit in their comp and I believe 2 of those teams are contesting each other. The best teams already know conduit is useless 90 percent of the match. Right now the most chosen comp is bang/BH/caustic. Conduit might be strong in rank matches, but in pro league she's useless. She doesn't provide the team enough utility besides when you drop contested.
I know this is a TSM video but look at the scores after game 4. That is a rare sight tempr a team that’s actively been in dead last especially in PL. if anyone watched their stream during Hal’s you would’ve seen they wiped FaZe and EEC early this game too
Bloodhound is good for call outs and smoke fights. You don’t have to push everything, just sit back and win the fight because you have more information than they do. Hal is showing exactly how not to play bloodhound 😂, you don’t push people out in an open field with no cover, because you can’t get away like you could with wraith/horizon.
Yo I h8 seeing y’all struggle but Hal you’re playing bloodhound like seer. You need to either just play seer and have the info on teams or actually make plays off the scans. Evan and reps aren’t looking when you scan 90% of the time bc you’re scanning for info too much. You’re playing bloodhound wayyyy too scared. Get the fuckin extra full body scan upgrade, bait their bloods scan, Smoke-scan- kill. Y’all are relying on these scans waaay too much for info tho. Like get your fuckin info like normal and use scans aggressively. Ur welcome
@@AnkjearThe scan is useful for knowing what teams are around you, but the horizon ult is what's actually going to help you wipe teams. They are struggling in these fights and the info from the scans is not making up for losing horizon. Horizon ult + arc stars is usually a free kill for TSM or enough to crack a few people to give them the opening to push.
@@VegitoAttacks I mean if we compare between a Q and an ult, that's kinda not fair. Plus now smg not able to use digis, bloodhound is like a must at this point with how many people still running bang and now caustic as well.
@@12sikrabfinahWell it's both the ultimate and tactical that make horizon better. A scan plus a speed boost vs instant high ground plus limiting enemy movement if they get sucked into the ult is not comparable to me. People are placing too much importance on bang/bloodhound scans. They won't win you fights like horizon's offensive abilities will.
@@VegitoAttacks I mean can you break bloodhound ult? Because horizon ult is breakable. We’re talking about pros here. Even in ranked people break the ult. Even 1 person is enough to break the ult. And if you’re going to say “yes bh ult can be break by killing the bh. Bh are moveable, and can be controlled. Unlike horizon ult, you throw that ult in that place and it doesn’t move anywhere. So it’s an easy target for it to be break by the enemy. Like you’re underestimating bh so much right now and it’s crazy. Like how would you fight enemies in the middle of an area that fills with bang smokes and caustic gas by using horizon? Use her Q and fly so people in the lobby can shoot you because you’re the most visible thing in the sky? Like bangalore is still being used. Like it still have like 90% pick rate or something. Either way it is still the highest pick legend right now in algs.
I think they should plah bang caustic bloodhound. No need for valk at all.ESPECIALLY on worlds edge. They didnt rotate once with valk ult only jumptowers. (They have 2 of them in their poi. + all around them
I agree with worlds edge. You could argue storm point it isn't a bad pick, so they could rotate faster. Worlds edge isn't needed. They land lava siphon which the rotations are rarely bad since they are center of the map. In comparison, to lighting rod which is at the top right of the map, so valk might be needed for those long rotations. They could easily run bang/caustic/bh in worlds edge.
I dont think valk is it guys and I feel like it will be too late till you realize it rotation is a big deal but yall play pretty slow till late game then she offers nothing to the team lol you cant play the game with out caustic or blood right now and blood is op when combined with bang. Bang, blood and caustic will be the winning comp
Full reason they died game 5 is cause you fully swung by yourself on the team that pushed you out. You didn’t have to fully push right away, you had wall plus were with the boys. Should’ve reset and then fully pushed after scanning etc. Plus brother please the backseat gaming sometimes is a bit excessive. That’s just imo but yeah game 5 should’ve reset a little better! Gotta grind now! 👌🏽‼️
I don't like the Valk composition returning. I don't think TSM gets alot of benifit from jumping into rings and running risky plays compared to having a Catalyst or Fuse and just moving into rings with smart plays instead of yeet plays
TSM always plays for what they think will work at LAN when the lobbies becomes increasingly smarter/risk averse with more and more early rotates. It leaves fewer spots to move to, more teams poking those who aren't in, and of course now with the Wattson/Caustic meta its even harder to actually push into anyone.
I don’t think it’s Hal or Evan throwing, it just looks like it bc they’re the ones initiating fights & being aggressive. It’s almost impossible for Reps to look bad in these situations. Something else is off or maybe just a bad day. What makes this team great is Hal being aggressive taking 1v1’s so idk ab stopping that
@@ZoneXbezI know so maybe they gotta change something up. If it’s not fitting his play style. Maybe him on bang instead? Obviously they have their reasons but Hal changing his play style does more harm than good
Naw he just needs time to adapt like any meta change, he's played through them all and won through them all. I highly doubt bloodhound will defeat him lol @@lexx6326
Did you guys eat "stupid cereal" together for breakfast? Some of the plays I just watched were some rust player shit. Hal climbs up to a 3 man after calling it? Reps ratting near edge as teams fight the ring, doesnt throw caustic ult but decided to hip fire re45 shots as a rat...
Hal on BH is not the best idea for me i know he is one of the best players but he just want to pop ult and push hard then gets knocked he might just stick on horizon there is no better horizon than hal's horizon
Ravens feedback at the end was perfect. He gave additional feedback about how Hal should be playing bloodhound that I think will really help them
That Hal scream at the end. Hes so stressed lol
Lmao
Hal on BH is a good move but i swear he still acts like he is still on Horizon like he still has a get out of jail grav lift
Wouldn’t say it’s a get out of jail grab lift in his lobbies 💀 specially if he’s playing scrims
culdnt have said it better i agree
i think he should play bang and reps or verhulst take bloodhound cuz he swings a different way and solo a lot lowkey and bang wukd help i feel like as if like horizon like ur saying alil get out of jail card not so much as horizon but ya get wat im saying ? lol
@@ysvibzexactly i personally think Evan would be better blood just because of his play style, plus his aim paired with bang smokes would be so op
Yeah because her que shoots you into the clouds really fast where nobody can see her
Man hal is just so imperial. Simply the most imperial of all the hals.
Imperial Hal *
@@BlackShinobi. Himperial Pal
@@twpizzaman Simperial Halal
Imperial Balls
Wait til you meet his European cousin MetricHal
oh my God that last game was surgical. A classic TSM game!
10:02 Hal is apologizing
That’s good ! The man is growing! Love it!
@9:30 Hal has gone full controller brain 😭
9:53こんなに落ち込んで謝ってるハル初めて見た
成長したね
家キープ難しかったかもしれないですけど、順位伸ばせそうだったから、残念でしたよね。
That pop off at the end by the boys when they captured the dub was hype
10:14 dude Hal, I’ve been watching your comp videos for awhile. TO HEAR YOU SAY THIS BRO, GROWTH. I LOVE TO SEE IT.
Hal apologizing dats new 😂
Nah he just rarely screws up THAT bad. If his errors are minor, he does tend to focus on his teammate's faults more though.
watching TSM valk ulting i swear is a torture, but i remember that game-winning valk ult on lan and oh man, what a comeback this guys are capable of.
Hal said I’m sorry. Jesus is back
Evan peeks out and Hal goes "Don't get krabered dont get krabered".... and Hal instantly goes out to peek hahahaha
Its because Evan was standing still peeking instead of moving around
@@ImYourWattson Nah, the kraber was to the south and evan peeked past the door which meant the kraber could see him.
Whoosh
Bridge team to the left had the Kraber, no?
Hal still playing like he’s horizon. 😂.
habit
Evans comms: Yep
Hal was locked in last game it’s different game when he is
Jordan did good
Really like 9:56, taking responsibility is the mark of a good leader, good on Hal
It’s the first occurrence ever
props to jordan for still playing so well when his team was not at their best. he definitely showed a lot of maturity and intelligence in these games.
He’s legit the backbone of the team and stabilizes more than just the vibes. I honestly believe Hal would of lost teammates if Jordan wasn’t holding it down
0:23 Can we all take a moment and say that kill was amazing
I can't judge Hal because he played Bloodhound poorly🙄but the reason TSM played that way and ended up in 7th place was not only because of him, but Evan, who also played poorly and ended up making individual mistakes in the game 1 to 3. But I'm happy that they won the game 6 and were well positioned in games 4 and 5
Another point is that Hal played for a long time with Horizon outside and inside ALGS and an average amount of time with Wraith, Gibraltar, Seer, Valkyrie, Octane and other characters except❌️Bloodhound where he played very little with this character and didn't even use it for ALGS and yet He didn't really get the hang of it, but if he trains he can improve it.
Without hate😉👊🏻
I think Raven will always be a good addition to TSM no matter how people may feel about him. Hal is good at what he dose, although he gets clouded in thinking hes right at times when hes clearly not.
i didnt understand ravens role at first, but then i learned he is a human Apex Meta database. Basically saves alt-tab and google search :D and he's a tactical genius. The sort of guy who can win games without firing a gun.
Good on Hal for owning his mistakes and not making excuses
I like Reps's energy lol everyone's passion is *chef's kiss*
That last game was crazy! Great teamwork
They should also play a tiny bit more for kills. Monsoon got more than all of tsm by himself for example.
It's not as easy as you say. You have to choose your fights when it comes to getting kills. What's the point of getting kills if you end up getting thirded and don't make it to top 10. TSM does go for kills, but when the situation asks for it. There's no point in getting a shit ton of kills if you're not getting into top 10.
Chess not checkers. #BackToBackToBack
everyone talks about how hal never takes blame but as soon as a game like game 4 happens, no clips are posted about it, no one talks about it, even though hes taking full blame and apologising, its almost like apex clip channels dont post anything to do with hal taking acountability...
Now to be fair that is super rare lol and idk if it’s a big enough deal to post a clip about it, should be normal. But it is a breath of fresh air for sure
not super rare at all. just super rare its in his videos. He repeatedly takes blames for bad zone calls etc sometimes he doesn't even see his error until explained to him after a discussion to which he realises. @@humansnotbots-y8l
well apex clip channels post a whole video about when hal blames an entire game on his team mate, so why is it not as big of a deal when he blames himself for an entire game? whys that so different?@@humansnotbots-y8l
Hal when his teammates throw: you f*cking ****, youre so bad at the game, gold rookies
Hal when he trows: i throwed
should he just start saying that about himself lmao???@@victord.monkey9081
PASSION
GO TSM 🎉
Val: I have a digi
Bloodhound: I am the digi!
Big throw at the start but lessgo boys
Incredible bro ❤️
Riding with y’all to the end every time
If we lose fk it, go next 🔥
bruh i just want them to beat DZ 😢
I really think they should try to work Conduit into their comp… Valkyrie has her spots for rotation but her missile swarm is useless. My favorite comp is Bang/Conduit/Caustic hands down
you kinda need bloodhound when EVERYone else is running bloodhound comps
No caustic isn’t more useful than bloodhound. Conduit is only good early game. Nobody does poke damage for you to just be able to get a reset like that. They only do full finishes. She’s good in ranked because teams allow you to make mistakes and recover from them.
Valk's Q is useless😂😂 Funny
@@qcat4145 it is... if you think otherwise your maximum silver 3
Just like you said valks missile swarm is useless, Caustic in general is useless in storm point. You're better off with wattson.
they have already explained why they don't use conduit. Conduit's abilities are useless. I'm not sure if you've watched the comps everyone is running but you have like 3 teams out of 30 running conduit in their comp and I believe 2 of those teams are contesting each other.
The best teams already know conduit is useless 90 percent of the match. Right now the most chosen comp is bang/BH/caustic. Conduit might be strong in rank matches, but in pro league she's useless. She doesn't provide the team enough utility besides when you drop contested.
I know this is a TSM video but look at the scores after game 4. That is a rare sight tempr a team that’s actively been in dead last especially in PL. if anyone watched their stream during Hal’s you would’ve seen they wiped FaZe and EEC early this game too
Bad day at the office!
"I just shit on them, BADLY!" made me laugh
Bloodhound is good for call outs and smoke fights. You don’t have to push everything, just sit back and win the fight because you have more information than they do. Hal is showing exactly how not to play bloodhound 😂, you don’t push people out in an open field with no cover, because you can’t get away like you could with wraith/horizon.
trolling hal
Great game 6 boys. Raven woke everyone up to reality though 😅
Hal would make a great fuse tbh
that boy hal just b swinging shit no fucks given and praying that reps them b right behind hym😂😂
That’s his job lol
your spelling is horrible
I like when they don't do well the title just says " HIGHLIGHTS" when they do well it says 1ST PLACE 2ND PLACE let's go TSM you got this
Hall I don't know if you read me but I want you to know that I enjoy your videos a lot. That's it.
last game so good browww 😂😂
Has hals balls even dropped yet the screamings sooo funny😂😂
seems like pookie isn't so mad today
the first time I hear Hal admit that it's his fault that they lose 😂😂😂
I love how Jordan ints game one and still thinks his ult was good 😂
👏👏👏
Just a bad day boys. Buckle it tf up
Yo I h8 seeing y’all struggle but Hal you’re playing bloodhound like seer. You need to either just play seer and have the info on teams or actually make plays off the scans. Evan and reps aren’t looking when you scan 90% of the time bc you’re scanning for info too much. You’re playing bloodhound wayyyy too scared. Get the fuckin extra full body scan upgrade, bait their bloods scan, Smoke-scan- kill. Y’all are relying on these scans waaay too much for info tho. Like get your fuckin info like normal and use scans aggressively. Ur welcome
Why does he not have recoil
“Don’t get krabered, be careful Evan!”
>stands still where Evan was just stood
The Kraber was on bridge and Evan was peaking past the door. Hal stayed behind cover. Not hard to understand.
kraber was on the left, evan didnt stand in bad place, hal just warning him dont step out more
Well, it wasn’t the best day, and TSM Valk ults still give me a heart attack, but u were able to pull it back together and get 7th! Still top 5!!!
That plan in the first game was something…lol
i got no doubt in my mind hal will improve his BH gameplay ten folds
Ive never seen Hal make more mistakes than he has in this video😂
crazy to think TSM is still getting better
gotta love to see it
goods games boys 🖤🖤
Hal Lowkey threw game 4 AND 5
Hal threw game fur, but they collectively threw game 5. Got to horny over a thirst and got way too split.
Bloodhound's scan is not worth losing horizons gravity lift+ult. Hal lost so many fights because he isn't horizon.
I disagree, I think bloodhound is very valuable, only thing is hal needs to change his play style and realize hound ult doesn't make you untouchable
@@AnkjearThe scan is useful for knowing what teams are around you, but the horizon ult is what's actually going to help you wipe teams. They are struggling in these fights and the info from the scans is not making up for losing horizon. Horizon ult + arc stars is usually a free kill for TSM or enough to crack a few people to give them the opening to push.
@@VegitoAttacks I mean if we compare between a Q and an ult, that's kinda not fair. Plus now smg not able to use digis, bloodhound is like a must at this point with how many people still running bang and now caustic as well.
@@12sikrabfinahWell it's both the ultimate and tactical that make horizon better. A scan plus a speed boost vs instant high ground plus limiting enemy movement if they get sucked into the ult is not comparable to me. People are placing too much importance on bang/bloodhound scans. They won't win you fights like horizon's offensive abilities will.
@@VegitoAttacks I mean can you break bloodhound ult? Because horizon ult is breakable. We’re talking about pros here. Even in ranked people break the ult. Even 1 person is enough to break the ult. And if you’re going to say “yes bh ult can be break by killing the bh. Bh are moveable, and can be controlled. Unlike horizon ult, you throw that ult in that place and it doesn’t move anywhere. So it’s an easy target for it to be break by the enemy. Like you’re underestimating bh so much right now and it’s crazy. Like how would you fight enemies in the middle of an area that fills with bang smokes and caustic gas by using horizon? Use her Q and fly so people in the lobby can shoot you because you’re the most visible thing in the sky? Like bangalore is still being used. Like it still have like 90% pick rate or something. Either way it is still the highest pick legend right now in algs.
hal sold every game lol
Need to learn bh
Raven said if he keeps playing like horizon he will shit on him XD
Fuck Jordan is so good 😩😩😩 what a fucking highlight
I think they should plah bang caustic bloodhound. No need for valk at all.ESPECIALLY on worlds edge. They didnt rotate once with valk ult only jumptowers. (They have 2 of them in their poi. + all around them
I agree with worlds edge. You could argue storm point it isn't a bad pick, so they could rotate faster. Worlds edge isn't needed. They land lava siphon which the rotations are rarely bad since they are center of the map. In comparison, to lighting rod which is at the top right of the map, so valk might be needed for those long rotations. They could easily run bang/caustic/bh in worlds edge.
@@BigSuzpekt yh true
Hal should keep playing Horizon
I dont think valk is it guys and I feel like it will be too late till you realize it rotation is a big deal but yall play pretty slow till late game then she offers nothing to the team lol you cant play the game with out caustic or blood right now and blood is op when combined with bang. Bang, blood and caustic will be the winning comp
Ive never seen them play so bad
TSM is playing amazing but I low key think hal has to work on been used to blood
They legit could’ve won the last 3 games. Just mistakes but nonetheless TSM will be on top. Also the energy from Jordan was insane
Can't see another team than DZ win next LAN. They are miles ahead (unfortunately)..
Love TSM but Jordan is his own biggest fan 😂
He a runner and track star, nvm it just TSM ImperialRunner
Full reason they died game 5 is cause you fully swung by yourself on the team that pushed you out. You didn’t have to fully push right away, you had wall plus were with the boys. Should’ve reset and then fully pushed after scanning etc. Plus brother please the backseat gaming sometimes is a bit excessive. That’s just imo but yeah game 5 should’ve reset a little better!
Gotta grind now! 👌🏽‼️
Controller brain of Hall on bh needs improvement. He will surely come on top😀
Game 1 :reps threw. He gotta let you go first and follow bro he landed on a 3 man holy shit I’m glad you didn’t rage
hal threw a massive game aswell much worse of a throw but i did notice reps landing was not great.
I don't like the Valk composition returning. I don't think TSM gets alot of benifit from jumping into rings and running risky plays compared to having a Catalyst or Fuse and just moving into rings with smart plays instead of yeet plays
I kind of agree. They have shit luck/decision making w vall ults historically
TSM always plays for what they think will work at LAN when the lobbies becomes increasingly smarter/risk averse with more and more early rotates. It leaves fewer spots to move to, more teams poking those who aren't in, and of course now with the Wattson/Caustic meta its even harder to actually push into anyone.
Jordan- I don’t care if we’re trash
Raven- we need to care
Jordan- I didn’t mean that 😅😅😂
Game 2 if you have Evan swing with you there y’all are fine first engagement
Switch reps for timmy
This isn’t the team comp imo
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA 13:38
I think they’re better off having the caustic main in their group.
I don’t think it’s Hal or Evan throwing, it just looks like it bc they’re the ones initiating fights & being aggressive. It’s almost impossible for Reps to look bad in these situations. Something else is off or maybe just a bad day. What makes this team great is Hal being aggressive taking 1v1’s so idk ab stopping that
He isn't horizon anymore, raven explains this to him afterwards
@@ZoneXbezI know so maybe they gotta change something up. If it’s not fitting his play style. Maybe him on bang instead? Obviously they have their reasons but Hal changing his play style does more harm than good
Naw he just needs time to adapt like any meta change, he's played through them all and won through them all. I highly doubt bloodhound will defeat him lol @@lexx6326
yo fix the title baby
Did you guys eat "stupid cereal" together for breakfast? Some of the plays I just watched were some rust player shit. Hal climbs up to a 3 man after calling it? Reps ratting near edge as teams fight the ring, doesnt throw caustic ult but decided to hip fire re45 shots as a rat...
Hal on BH is not the best idea for me i know he is one of the best players but he just want to pop ult and push hard then gets knocked he might just stick on horizon there is no better horizon than hal's horizon
TSM have to get it together or I fear a roaster change will come 😢
nah you can have a bad split dont forget they cant win always
????? They're 7th. All they have to do is qual for LAN there's no benefit to winning the league, look at Xset. All that matters is LAN
BH ain’t the move man, just an outsiders perspective…
Game 2 y’all just taking the dumbest fight ever.. y’all are alllll split too.
Game 3: ur comp sucks. Valk is not it. You could’ve lived in the crack and popped up with horizon. Or just waited for ring
Yeah tsm ain’t winning a single lan
Stop playing Valk
Bro like you ruined like 50% of games
Reps play so safe sometimes …
this setup is dogshit on worlds edge... stop playing caustic and valk
Bang
Fuse
Blood
Drop Evan
DZ better
12:44 from a non pro pov i knwo yall are looking for points trying to get kills but ummmm ummmmmm way to split 😂
Jjaaaa se murieron los hp