@@KevinHwoarangNewcastle and Sunderland aren't in the same city, but it's a 28 minute drive between the 2 stadiums so it's definitely a derby. That's closer than Stamford Bridge is to the Emirates
13:39 By "commercial" he meant that you can't feel the passion. The game is just talked about alot because it has the 2 biggest clubs in Germany face eachother. It's all about revenue; television and selling merch and luring in tourists with the catch of having some huge teams and insanely skilled players.
reacts more to his videos, they are top.. I think what he mean in the video about the yellow crowd, was that you only saw fans of the home team, in other words, a good atmosphere but it wasn't rivalry atmosphere
You need to understand that in the 1990 and 1991, the war in former Yugoslavia started on the football fields even before it started on the actual fields and the streets. There are many documentaries which address this and talk about how football influenced the resistance and pride, especially in Croatia. This is why most of the fans there don't see it as "only a game" but much more.
Huge derbies are missing. Celtic vs. Rangers or any match between the 3 Greek clubs AEK, Olympiakos and Panathinaicos and don't even let me get into the ones where there is such a deep hate, it can be outright dangerous like Paok vs. Aris, Red Star vs. Partizan or the 3 Istanbul clubs.
Schalke vs Dortmund was a much bigger derby in the past, back when Schalke were actually good. They were relegated to 2nd tier German football a few years ago and have been struggling ever since.
The more 'commercial' ones are, as you said, so popular with big teams so the prices just went up into ridiculous territory. the popularity also atracts a ton of fair-weather fans that stick around when the club is performing but as soon as it starts to go slightly downhill they're nowhere to be seen. And the long-standing supporters who really grew up with this intense rivalry (and hatred) between 2 clubs go under in the bigger crowds or can't afford the tickets anymore.
not only that, but for these famous big games the tickets are often purchased by people who aren't even a fan of either club The more of those there the worse and less authentic the atmosphere becomes
Sporting Clube de Portugal ultra here!! im so glad he enjoy our club atmosphere and the acapella anthem we sing at the start of each game, in the video you can ear ppl still singing when we score a goal in the first 2 minutes!! absolute bucket list!! Sporting 💚💚
Derby is from the beginning a horse race term. But then people begun call fotball matches with a lot of spectators for "derby match" Bcs when two teams from the same city met, it was more spectators on those, and therefore we use to call this matches for derby matches. But it is in northern europe, in south europe and south america its more common to call them "clasico"
He missed top notch derbies like the Roman 'Derby Della Capitale' (Lazio vs AS) and 'the Old Firm' of Glasgow (Rangers vs Celtic) and many others but has the audacity to claim he's been to EVERY football rivalry in Europe... I mean kudos for all the traveling and all, but don't exaggerate mate.
Just made a similar comment because I was bothered by the phrasing and insinuating he was at all of them, when some really important ones are missing. I forgot to mention the "Derby Della Capitale" though.
@@meditatiigermana7568 If you forgot the Debry Della Capitale you too should be ashamed and spend the next 2 weeks chastening yourself.... But on a more serious note, the lad spended lots of time, effort and money on visiting all these games, but his claim is a tad exaggerated.
The origins may stem from the Earl of Derby (pronounced darby) in England. On one side of his very large estate there was the town of Wigan and on the other, St Helens. They each formed a rugby league club and played each other at Easter in what became known as the 'local derby'. St Helens Saints, still play Wigan Warriors in the Super League at Easter. It was an earlier Earl of Derby (the 12th), that started the Epsom Derby horse race, the most famous flat race in the world (sorry Kentucky).
A lot of games were in second or even third division, and that’s why some of the tickets were probably around 5-10 euros. Regarding the traveling you have many cheap options combining train and airplanes, but it needs careful planning and buying tickets in time.
An other thing regarding ticket prices, for example in Germany they are reasonable and the club can’t increase them without club members agreement, which are the fans, because in Germany they have the 50+1 rule.
one ingredient that important for a good derby is hatred. while a full stadium looks impressive, if it doesn't feel a little dangerous it wont rank as high.
So, I will try to clarify but I hope to be able to express myself correctly and without errors. At least for us in Italy, a real derby is only one that is played between two teams from the same city. For example, there are currently only four real Italian derbies: Inter-Milan; Genoa-Sampdoria; Juventus-Turin and Rome-Lazio. Clear examples of this type of derby in Europe could be: Real Madrid-Atletico Madrid or Manchester City-Manchester United. After which, by extension and to increase the hype of a football match, other matches are also defined as derbies even if in reality the two clubs are from two different cities. So, at this point it may be the belonging to the same geographical area and the historical rivalry between the two clubs that ensures that the match is still defined as a derby despite being spurious. Italian examples are: Juventus-Inter defined: Northern Italy derby. Rome-Naples called Southern Derby; Or Parma-Bologna (Emilian Derby) or Verona-Vicenza (Veneto Derby) and obviously around Europe there will be a thousand other regional rivalries that I can't remember now. Finally, there is a rather improper use of the word derby which the press often abuses only to load the match with motivation and tension. This is the case of matches between teams that only have the nation they belong to in common but have strong historical reasons for rivalry. For example, they could be the two most successful teams in that country or they could be the two with the highest public following. Clear examples are Real Madrid-Barcelona (which, however, even before being defined as Derby, takes the name of "The classic"); Feyanord-Ajax Amsterdam as Dutch derby; Juventus-Napoli as Derby d'Italia, Liverpool-Manchester city; Bayer Munich-Borussia Dortmund etc.
Regarding the effort, keep in mind these games usually only occur once a year or even more rarely (in case teams are not in the same division). The video must have taken him some good years to make.
Derbys often means that 2 clubs play against each other who are located in the same City (exampel: Hertha Berlin and Union Berlin, or Hamburg and st. Pauli.) Or they are located closes to each other (Nuermberg and Furth, or Köln and Gladbach/Leverkusen, or one of the most intese is Schalke vs Dortmund that is called the revir derby) Der Klassiker isn't realy a derby, but in this game 2 teams playing each other and they have a rivalie also they are the oldest Bundesliga club playing each other
I mean, with the distances between things I guess you can argue you don't really have derbies? It's a location thing. The 'Flemish derby' here in Belgium for example is Ghent vs Brugge. Flemish here referring to the Flanders of the Middle Ages. Not as it is today.
on the basque derby. they are rivals. but at the end of the day both are still basques and therefore it's better to be basque than not to be i guess so the atmosphere is quite friendly
The Mersey side derby liverpool -everton same city only parted by . yes The Mersey river...The Hatred in the Copenhagen derbies is REAL believe me... BIF-FCK or FCK-BIF is explosive , a massive rivalry. .at times also way to violent... but i don't think anybody can even fathom the hate in the polish derbies. it is insane..
A good Derby as he says it's about hatred between the sides not the quality of the teams, so the commercial ones as he says are very good teams, football clubs that developed into a big brand that generates enormous amount of money, so tickets go up, corporate tickets take over plus much more that drives that hatred away, a "good" Derby as he says is about hatred look at boca juniors vs River plate, people literally die almost every time
@@rinne4896 I meant it as a joke but if you want to come to semantics, sure! Europe is a continent. You don't say, "Come to North America", or "I went to Asia". You always say, "you visited USA". You don't sound cool if you use Europe or Africa as a singular union in your conversation. Educate yourself.
Brutal calling the Merseyside derby a tourist trap. Derbies are when a match is played between two clubs normally in one city. Taking the Merseyside derby, the two clubs, Liverpool and Everton are separated by a park. Manchester derbies, United versus city are either side of the city centre. London has normally has a few too as there are a lot of London teams in the top flight. In Italy the Milan derby Internationale versus ac, thry play in the same stadium, the crumbling San siro. Roma versus Lazio play at the same stadium too the stadio Olympico. Derbies seem to now be classed as two rival teams like for instance Liverpool versus Manchester United. 30 odd miles apart. So thry are trying to broaden the term but it is not traditional.
A derby, pronounced dar-bee probably refers to the city of Derby in England. The Earl of Derby started a horse race in 1780 which became The Derby. The Kentucky Derby is mispronounced. That also should be 'dar-bee'. The hat that Americans refer to as a 'Derby' is an English named a Bowler. It's an American name for a British product but I guess you can call it what you want.
Watched Galatasaray last year in Turkey last year at RAMS stadium. Just bloody crazy all day, during the game and the celebrations afterwards . . . well just insane.
Also no one would call e.g. Bayern Dortmund (Der Klassiker) a derby, because the distance between the cities is too large and the rivalry is mostly a product of them being the two best teams for quite some time now. For the Niedersachsenderby, there's been hate between the cities for centuries. For other derbies it's not that historic, but for sure much more than in the Klassiker.
Problem is he’s classing hate in the choices where as a lot of these top teams have family member and friends on the either side. So although the atmosphere is good it still doesn’t match two groups that hate each other.
5:29 A derby is a match between two local clubs that are geographically close to each other. Example - Manchester United and Manchester City - both are geographically based in Manchester, England.
Barca Real Madrid, he was in Barceona and they do not play in their stadium right now. They have been rebuilding the Barcelona stadium for over 1 year now...
the reason our derbies in uk arnt as good as they used to be is because we had the worse hooligans in europe so our government had a massive crackdown unfortunatly
Derby: 2 rival clubs in a city or area
In the Netherlands it´s same city, I thought UK had county derbies aswell?
@@KevinHwoarangNewcastle and Sunderland aren't in the same city, but it's a 28 minute drive between the 2 stadiums so it's definitely a derby. That's closer than Stamford Bridge is to the Emirates
@@KevinHwoarang not same citys
13:39
By "commercial" he meant that you can't feel the passion. The game is just talked about alot because it has the 2 biggest clubs in Germany face eachother. It's all about revenue; television and selling merch and luring in tourists with the catch of having some huge teams and insanely skilled players.
reacts more to his videos, they are top.. I think what he mean in the video about the yellow crowd, was that you only saw fans of the home team, in other words, a good atmosphere but it wasn't rivalry atmosphere
You need to understand that in the 1990 and 1991, the war in former Yugoslavia started on the football fields even before it started on the actual fields and the streets. There are many documentaries which address this and talk about how football influenced the resistance and pride, especially in Croatia. This is why most of the fans there don't see it as "only a game" but much more.
Huge derbies are missing. Celtic vs. Rangers or any match between the 3 Greek clubs AEK, Olympiakos and Panathinaicos and don't even let me get into the ones where there is such a deep hate, it can be outright dangerous like Paok vs. Aris, Red Star vs. Partizan or the 3 Istanbul clubs.
@@meditatiigermana7568 he only reviewed derbies he went to
Schalke vs Dortmund was a much bigger derby in the past, back when Schalke were actually good. They were relegated to 2nd tier German football a few years ago and have been struggling ever since.
The more 'commercial' ones are, as you said, so popular with big teams so the prices just went up into ridiculous territory. the popularity also atracts a ton of fair-weather fans that stick around when the club is performing but as soon as it starts to go slightly downhill they're nowhere to be seen.
And the long-standing supporters who really grew up with this intense rivalry (and hatred) between 2 clubs go under in the bigger crowds or can't afford the tickets anymore.
not only that, but for these famous big games the tickets are often purchased by people who aren't even a fan of either club The more of those there the worse and less authentic the atmosphere becomes
derby is two rival clubs in the same city
or county
The video is about rivalry, not derby.
@@AttackTheGasStation1 so? I explain what is a derby, nothing more men
@@diogosa3101 no it's 2 teams in the same are. Not only city. You are not so smart.
@@robin97rv 😅😅😅😅 ok gênio 😅
Sporting Clube de Portugal ultra here!! im so glad he enjoy our club atmosphere and the acapella anthem we sing at the start of each game, in the video you can ear ppl still singing when we score a goal in the first 2 minutes!! absolute bucket list!! Sporting 💚💚
he missed the oldest derby in the world, glasgow celtic v glasgow rangers
He didn't go to a old firm. Only reviewed derbies he went to
@@larsroodakker3845he went to it this season
Derby is from the beginning a horse race term. But then people begun call fotball matches with a lot of spectators for "derby match" Bcs when two teams from the same city met, it was more spectators on those, and therefore we use to call this matches for derby matches. But it is in northern europe, in south europe and south america its more common to call them "clasico"
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He missed top notch derbies like the Roman 'Derby Della Capitale' (Lazio vs AS) and 'the Old Firm' of Glasgow (Rangers vs Celtic) and many others but has the audacity to claim he's been to EVERY football rivalry in Europe... I mean kudos for all the traveling and all, but don't exaggerate mate.
Just made a similar comment because I was bothered by the phrasing and insinuating he was at all of them, when some really important ones are missing. I forgot to mention the "Derby Della Capitale" though.
@@meditatiigermana7568 If you forgot the Debry Della Capitale you too should be ashamed and spend the next 2 weeks chastening yourself.... But on a more serious note, the lad spended lots of time, effort and money on visiting all these games, but his claim is a tad exaggerated.
I agree bro is missing so many huge derbies Greece, Serbia, Turkey....
A derby is a match between two teams from the same city.
A Classic is a match between two rival teams from different cities of the same country.
Nice to see u react to an growing creator like groundhopper fc💪
He is great! Deserves all the success coming his way!
The origins may stem from the Earl of Derby (pronounced darby) in England. On one side of his very large estate there was the town of Wigan and on the other, St Helens. They each formed a rugby league club and played each other at Easter in what became known as the 'local derby'. St Helens Saints, still play Wigan Warriors in the Super League at Easter.
It was an earlier Earl of Derby (the 12th), that started the Epsom Derby horse race, the most famous flat race in the world (sorry Kentucky).
A lot of games were in second or even third division, and that’s why some of the tickets were probably around 5-10 euros. Regarding the traveling you have many cheap options combining train and airplanes, but it needs careful planning and buying tickets in time.
An other thing regarding ticket prices, for example in Germany they are reasonable and the club can’t increase them without club members agreement, which are the fans, because in Germany they have the 50+1 rule.
one ingredient that important for a good derby is hatred. while a full stadium looks impressive, if it doesn't feel a little dangerous it wont rank as high.
So, I will try to clarify but I hope to be able to express myself correctly and without errors. At least for us in Italy, a real derby is only one that is played between two teams from the same city. For example, there are currently only four real Italian derbies: Inter-Milan; Genoa-Sampdoria; Juventus-Turin and Rome-Lazio. Clear examples of this type of derby in Europe could be: Real Madrid-Atletico Madrid or Manchester City-Manchester United. After which, by extension and to increase the hype of a football match, other matches are also defined as derbies even if in reality the two clubs are from two different cities. So, at this point it may be the belonging to the same geographical area and the historical rivalry between the two clubs that ensures that the match is still defined as a derby despite being spurious. Italian examples are: Juventus-Inter defined: Northern Italy derby. Rome-Naples called Southern Derby; Or Parma-Bologna (Emilian Derby) or Verona-Vicenza (Veneto Derby) and obviously around Europe there will be a thousand other regional rivalries that I can't remember now. Finally, there is a rather improper use of the word derby which the press often abuses only to load the match with motivation and tension. This is the case of matches between teams that only have the nation they belong to in common but have strong historical reasons for rivalry. For example, they could be the two most successful teams in that country or they could be the two with the highest public following. Clear examples are Real Madrid-Barcelona (which, however, even before being defined as Derby, takes the name of "The classic"); Feyanord-Ajax Amsterdam as Dutch derby; Juventus-Napoli as Derby d'Italia, Liverpool-Manchester city; Bayer Munich-Borussia Dortmund etc.
Regarding the effort, keep in mind these games usually only occur once a year or even more rarely (in case teams are not in the same division). The video must have taken him some good years to make.
Derbys often means that 2 clubs play against each other who are located in the same City (exampel: Hertha Berlin and Union Berlin, or Hamburg and st. Pauli.) Or they are located closes to each other (Nuermberg and Furth, or Köln and Gladbach/Leverkusen, or one of the most intese is Schalke vs Dortmund that is called the revir derby) Der Klassiker isn't realy a derby, but in this game 2 teams playing each other and they have a rivalie also they are the oldest Bundesliga club playing each other
I’m just back from Prague and no there is nothing wrong with it it’s perfect, went to a slavia game was mental
I mean, with the distances between things I guess you can argue you don't really have derbies?
It's a location thing.
The 'Flemish derby' here in Belgium for example is Ghent vs Brugge. Flemish here referring to the Flanders of the Middle Ages. Not as it is today.
on the basque derby. they are rivals. but at the end of the day both are still basques and therefore it's better to be basque than not to be i guess so the atmosphere is quite friendly
Bro forgot the olympiacos vs Panathinaikos it’s crazy
The Mersey side derby liverpool -everton same city only parted by . yes The Mersey river...The Hatred in the Copenhagen derbies is REAL believe me... BIF-FCK or FCK-BIF is explosive , a massive rivalry. .at times also way to violent... but i don't think anybody can even fathom the hate in the polish derbies. it is insane..
Derby term comes from the city of Derby in England, it was for an horse race in late 19th century. Then rugby and football take the term.
A good Derby as he says it's about hatred between the sides not the quality of the teams, so the commercial ones as he says are very good teams, football clubs that developed into a big brand that generates enormous amount of money, so tickets go up, corporate tickets take over plus much more that drives that hatred away, a "good" Derby as he says is about hatred look at boca juniors vs River plate, people literally die almost every time
Come to Europe - Travel is cheap compared to the US and Europe is as big as the USA.
Europe, the country?
@@hi_pd who Said Europe the Country? Educate yourself!
@@rinne4896 I meant it as a joke but if you want to come to semantics, sure!
Europe is a continent. You don't say, "Come to North America", or "I went to Asia". You always say, "you visited USA". You don't sound cool if you use Europe or Africa as a singular union in your conversation. Educate yourself.
@@hi_pd stoned?
@@rinne4896 Are you?
The problem with Barca - Real is that when he was to the game in Barcelona, Barca was not playing on their stadium, which is in renovation.
Brutal calling the Merseyside derby a tourist trap. Derbies are when a match is played between two clubs normally in one city. Taking the Merseyside derby, the two clubs, Liverpool and Everton are separated by a park. Manchester derbies, United versus city are either side of the city centre. London has normally has a few too as there are a lot of London teams in the top flight. In Italy the Milan derby Internationale versus ac, thry play in the same stadium, the crumbling San siro. Roma versus Lazio play at the same stadium too the stadio Olympico. Derbies seem to now be classed as two rival teams like for instance Liverpool versus Manchester United. 30 odd miles apart. So thry are trying to broaden the term but it is not traditional.
A derby, pronounced dar-bee probably refers to the city of Derby in England.
The Earl of Derby started a horse race in 1780 which became The Derby.
The Kentucky Derby is mispronounced. That also should be 'dar-bee'.
The hat that Americans refer to as a 'Derby' is an English named a Bowler. It's an American name for a British product but I guess you can call it what you want.
Watched Galatasaray last year in Turkey last year at RAMS stadium. Just bloody crazy all day, during the game and the celebrations afterwards . . . well just insane.
The beautiful game
As a 96 Fan a reaction to the Niedersachsenderby Video is appreciated! FCKBTSV
Also no one would call e.g. Bayern Dortmund (Der Klassiker) a derby, because the distance between the cities is too large and the rivalry is mostly a product of them being the two best teams for quite some time now. For the Niedersachsenderby, there's been hate between the cities for centuries. For other derbies it's not that historic, but for sure much more than in the Klassiker.
Problem is he’s classing hate in the choices where as a lot of these top teams have family member and friends on the either side. So although the atmosphere is good it still doesn’t match two groups that hate each other.
derby is a match between to clubs located in the same city or even state, and there must be a hatred to call it a derby
He doesnt know why a part of the stand in switzerland was closed.... its a story of 2 parts.... its called die sxhande von basel.😂
5:29 A derby is a match between two local clubs that are geographically close to each other. Example - Manchester United and Manchester City - both are geographically based in Manchester, England.
Haha Dortdmund Schalke was only avg because they played in the Dortmund stadium. 😂
Barca Real Madrid, he was in Barceona and they do not play in their stadium right now. They have been rebuilding the Barcelona stadium for over 1 year now...
the reason our derbies in uk arnt as good as they used to be is because we had the worse hooligans in europe so our government had a massive crackdown unfortunatly
They are called Derby because the rival teams are in the same city.
He had to go to both sides of 010 and 020. No away fans allowed.
no way he put bvb vs schalke in average
Fenerbahce v Galatasaray > every derby on earth
Dont forget Germanen is next. To the netherlands so its easyJet to go to ev3n spain is close
el classico use to be something else, after messi ronaldo left elclassico became soft...
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he did not visit all he is lying what a clown
@@user-od5eu8qb7q someone sounds jealous
Its impossible for that amount to do all he said....but he is Dutch... aswell as i am myself..... Going Dutch 😂😂😂