The Big Picture - Reservation : Who Will Benefit?

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  • @n3bw724
    @n3bw724 5 років тому +194

    Whenever Sai speaks, I slowdown the video to normal.😅

  • @donbuddha8341
    @donbuddha8341 5 років тому +42

    If 8L /year is criteria for poverty ,then i think India's poverty line should be changed

    • @anandarupguin2927
      @anandarupguin2927 5 років тому +1

      this reservation is not for poor but for middle class....hope you heard Mr Tandon.

    • @Shekhar-ji4dv
      @Shekhar-ji4dv 3 роки тому +1

      Anandarup Guin then rename it to economically middle section not economically weaker section

    • @anjangogoi1513
      @anjangogoi1513 2 роки тому

      You were ahead of time!!!

  • @mathographia1726
    @mathographia1726 5 років тому +73

    Now talent and merit left with 40 seats to Compete.

  • @JagdishKumar-yj5qd
    @JagdishKumar-yj5qd 5 років тому +174

    Why Reservation ......Instead of giving reservation provide them free coaching and personality development programs. ... Reservations is just sucking our country's growth ... our mentality is still backward

    • @leks1474
      @leks1474 5 років тому +6

      Exactly.. Not every socially bkwd is poor or unaffordable to apy laks for getting into a training pgmme by private institutions.. And not every general candidate can afford for a good coaching.. So leave the idea of reservation altogether and improve skills.. Also conduct exams fairly

    • @Kim-jo8px
      @Kim-jo8px 5 років тому +15

      It's a shame we are giving reservations after 70 years....we need universal education.

    • @upanidesh
      @upanidesh 5 років тому +8

      Your idea seems right but our country cannot afford such huge expenditure. Also free coaching means govt has to interfere, leading to lesser revenue for these coaching institutes and finally destruction of free economy concept.
      Although reservation is again against a free economy, but in the present scenario it seems right, but should have a stringent sunset clause.

    • @9658253406
      @9658253406 5 років тому

      Simply we indians feel good by doing cheap things..we indians cheap..

    • @San-iq6gz
      @San-iq6gz 5 років тому +4

      Ideal but not practical

  • @harpreets5710
    @harpreets5710 5 років тому +5

    Advocate J sai Deepak is an excellent speaker and treasure of knowledge 👍

  • @bharathn8895
    @bharathn8895 5 років тому +14

    How can Sai Deepak remember such minute intricacies in the laws, what a memory..

  • @cricketkedewane8362
    @cricketkedewane8362 5 років тому +89

    J sai Deepak
    ur the future CJI
    One day I see u there 😊👍

  • @jitendrajha9199
    @jitendrajha9199 5 років тому +10

    J.Sai Deepak conveys in a great manner.

  • @abhisheksrivastava4236
    @abhisheksrivastava4236 5 років тому +67

    I am fed up of such kinds of reservations.....
    50% total reservations already existed for SC,ST'S,OBC AND Reserved ones.This was not enough and there is again 10% reservation....
    I mean why so must injustice towards medium class general cateogories.....
    AT LEAST WHY NO ONE IS THINKING OF NATIONAL INTEREST....
    IT'S IN THE FAVOUR OF NATIONAL INTEREST THAT MORE QUALIFIED AND SKILLFUL PERSONS CAN GET THE DESIRED POSTS AND SEATS EVERYWHERE....
    THESE POLITICIANS NEED GENERAL CATEOGORY DOCTORS,ENGINEERS AND SKILLFUL SERVICEMEN FOR THEIR USE BUT ARE NUMBER ONE IN GIVING RESERVATIONS FOR POLITICAL INTERESTS......I MEANS ITS A SELFISH WIN WIN SITUATION FOR POLITICIANS.....

    • @mathographia1726
      @mathographia1726 5 років тому +3

      It's only for the benefit of political parties not for country..it's a big game behind reservation.

    • @PurnenduSabar
      @PurnenduSabar 5 років тому

      Because they have to win the election and nothing else

    • @shrisatishkumar1063
      @shrisatishkumar1063 5 років тому +7

      IT IS FOR MIDDLE CLASS.

    • @smartaspirant
      @smartaspirant 5 років тому +5

      Didn't you hear Mr Tondon ?
      He clearly mentioned SC , STs and obc consist of 70% of population but the reservation is just 50%...
      the rest of 50% are clearly 'reserved' for general people, but that's the case only when you see it that way...
      Secondly, 10% reservation covers 95% of the population !!
      Still 40% remains, that being said, there's no provision like that those who've applied for the cap of 10% quota won't be able to get a seat outside of it!!
      It simply means, 30% of population is ruling 50% of seats!!!
      You know what it means, means that there should be 70% reservation for SC ST and OBCs... That's how there can be fair play...!!!

    • @anandarupguin2927
      @anandarupguin2927 5 років тому +1

      it is for MIDDLE CLASS.

  • @kiranprasad7902
    @kiranprasad7902 5 років тому +19

    Economic? How will you ..When the income is not consistent being 95% informal sector.

    • @sushainupadhyay4192
      @sushainupadhyay4192 5 років тому +2

      businessmen earning lakhs monthly, are good in manipulating figures.. and thus the beneficiaries... black day

  • @snr5950
    @snr5950 5 років тому +1

    As always Mr J Sai Deepak is bang on informative n educative in his assertions. Salutes sir.

  • @jeeshithasampangi2042
    @jeeshithasampangi2042 5 років тому +15

    now few businessmen will show wrong accounts and get benefitted as there was more informal sector .... it is hard to categorise and justify the criteria

  • @saivikranthdeshpande8503
    @saivikranthdeshpande8503 5 років тому +1

    J.Sai Deepak sir has immense knowlege

  • @MrutyunjayJoshi
    @MrutyunjayJoshi 5 років тому +1

    Adv. J. Sai Deepak is Really one of the best panelist ever seen on any RSTV Debate.

  • @info-fatafat
    @info-fatafat 5 років тому +1

    J. sai deepak you are awesome 👏✊👍

  • @shwetanagarkoti7980
    @shwetanagarkoti7980 5 років тому +13

    "while historical injustice can form the basis for affirmative actions on the basis of caste based prejudice or social parameters as well, time has come for the court, executive of the government to start thinking of other reasons for backwardness including economic backwardness because the goal of reservation is to address the distress community"

  • @SirAvinaash
    @SirAvinaash 5 років тому +1

    Very informative and useful debate. Thanks Rajan and Deepak

  • @sherrysharad
    @sherrysharad 5 років тому +6

    Noted Advocate Nani Palkiwala said during the Indira Sawney judgement, that it will cement castism in India. Now this will cement classism in India. Reservation of caste seems to have no sun set clause. Now this will go down the same road.

  • @varsharajput4166
    @varsharajput4166 5 років тому

    J. Sai Deepak. I get happy and hopeful whenever I see him in the panel. When he spoke he laid down the whole case clearly on table for everyone to see. Such articulation, clarity and reason.

  • @lvrox04
    @lvrox04 5 років тому

    Such a great panel comprising of all the intellects. It feels so good to watch such debates.

  • @chanakyamishra1303
    @chanakyamishra1303 5 років тому

    Lots of thanks...to Rajyasabha TV... Special thanks to Mr. Pereira

  • @priyanka_dubey
    @priyanka_dubey 5 років тому +1

    J Sai Deepak you are my favourite ❤️

  • @vikrantparmar7708
    @vikrantparmar7708 5 років тому +1

    sai deepak....spoke elegantly

  • @madhushekharc6708
    @madhushekharc6708 5 років тому +1

    Well and matured level of discussion...

  • @anichuraliprodhani8554
    @anichuraliprodhani8554 5 років тому

    I feel it's one of the best debate I ever heard ...all points are discussed very precisely and explicitly ...

  • @savin1999
    @savin1999 4 роки тому

    By far the best debates I watch on this channel

  • @Enlightenwithshubham
    @Enlightenwithshubham 5 років тому +1

    Great discussion with wise people
    Thanx rajya sabha

  • @lifecaptured5295
    @lifecaptured5295 5 років тому

    Wonderful debate Frank...
    Keep going...
    Luv RSTV♥️

  • @manishakumari6378
    @manishakumari6378 5 років тому

    J.Sai Deepak makes discussion colourful in all aspects of the topic.Very nice 😃

  • @michaelscott3190
    @michaelscott3190 5 років тому +27

    Why they dont have reservation for Cabinet! Why not have reservations for PM as well and President.

    • @shanaya545
      @shanaya545 4 роки тому +1

      who told you so ? If you dont know,there are ministers in the cabinet from minority groups as well. Without reservation. And the man who wrote the constitution? (a dalit as well). Well, you should first read how PM and prezi are elected.

  • @afakirinjannat4971
    @afakirinjannat4971 5 років тому +6

    Give 100% reservation or completely scrap the reservation system. It really sucks. It is used to appease certain section people for vote bank. Go for full or null.

  • @vivayk
    @vivayk 5 років тому +1

    Who else is here only for Sai Deepak?

  • @tg-qy9mp
    @tg-qy9mp 5 років тому +1

    Best productive debate in the dawn of the new year.

  • @chaitanyarathod8660
    @chaitanyarathod8660 5 років тому

    THANK YOU

  • @rathisingh3905
    @rathisingh3905 5 років тому +5

    So question of merit, effieciency in service etc is no more.
    who earn 8 lakh is Poor.Hypocrite!!!

  • @clarkent7574
    @clarkent7574 5 років тому

    Great video.

  • @maheshkumar7988
    @maheshkumar7988 5 років тому

    Thanks all panelists and staffs of rstv

  • @babyk9458
    @babyk9458 5 років тому +1

    Saideepak, Done n dusted!

  • @2divyanshu
    @2divyanshu 5 років тому

    Fantastic debate!

  • @SujitKumar-cj7hi
    @SujitKumar-cj7hi 5 років тому +3

    where does reservation solves the issue of financial backwardness. Imagine a situation where a student who is financially backward and he clears an examination and goes in a wonderful univrsity, now how does he pays the fees at a time where government is busy privatising things and giving huge autonomy to government universities.

  • @pragyakushawaha694
    @pragyakushawaha694 5 років тому +7

    Ab general wale kaise kahenege ki reservation hatao 😂😂😂😂😂
    Ab general me bhi category Ho Jayega upper general middle general lower general 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @sushainupadhyay4192
      @sushainupadhyay4192 5 років тому

      Politicians are so cruel that they created divisions in general category, there will never be unity.

  • @jyotilakhera243
    @jyotilakhera243 5 років тому

    A very good debate👍

  • @Heynaina14
    @Heynaina14 3 роки тому

    Ashok Tandon sir nailed it.

  • @saikummar864
    @saikummar864 5 років тому

    jail SAI deepak is my favorite speaker

  • @varunrathi8664
    @varunrathi8664 5 років тому

    Hi, Guys I have a doubt at time 6:09-6:10 J Sai Deepak talked about article 15(6) and article 16(6) but i have been looking for these in PM bakshi the constituion of india I can't find article 15(6) or 16(6).............Can please someone tell me what are these.....????

  • @Unknown-fi2ij
    @Unknown-fi2ij 4 роки тому +2

    I love listening English debates.i hope it'd help me to improve my English 🙃😉

  • @devbhoomifarmdelight8350
    @devbhoomifarmdelight8350 5 років тому +1

    Special Thanks to Mr. Sai Deepak, you are awesome.
    I guess there won't be any significant change in Competition level because >95 % people are falling under eligibility criteria, rather it would just make the 10% unreserved seats unavailable for depressed classes( SC, ST, OBC, and others) who used to clear General list. But definitely its going to pave a way for economic considerations as far as Reservations are concerned.

  • @TheCitizen23
    @TheCitizen23 5 років тому

    It's disgusting. Those who were for meritocracy are asking for reservations. And in our country 30% people live below poverty line and can barely earn 3000 INR per month but people with 65000 INR per month are considered poor. Pathetic!

  • @hansamewade4725
    @hansamewade4725 5 років тому +1

    i m big fan of mr. frank 😊

  • @futureca2632
    @futureca2632 5 років тому +2

    Remove caste reservation ......It won't make India grow...Unskilled people will be chosen as per caste reservation...Prefer merit and talent first...Give 20 % reservation to who is talented,skillfull and economically poor so Efficiency will be created in govt jobs and talented,poor people get chance to grow

  • @DevyaniPatil333
    @DevyaniPatil333 5 років тому +1

    the concluding remarks of j sai deepak :)

  • @avicksaha
    @avicksaha 5 років тому +1

    Brave step by administrator

  • @divyanshuchauhan9922
    @divyanshuchauhan9922 5 років тому +31

    Should have given 40% to economically backward people as they know the ground realities. Anyways who cares about efficiency of the institution.
    P.S: time to leave India

    • @vamsikrishna-jg4lw
      @vamsikrishna-jg4lw 5 років тому +1

      how is that even remotely practical???? rich becomes poor and poor becomes rich in a matter of time and dont forget india is not a country of 100 people it is a nation of 120 crore....so within 1-2 years rich will get reservation jus like now

  • @drpraveenkumars2237
    @drpraveenkumars2237 5 років тому +1

    I will appreciate the bill .this is what we are waiting since long ago.

  • @prashantpandey5622
    @prashantpandey5622 5 років тому +8

    dirty politics, it is a cancer

  • @anandkumar42874
    @anandkumar42874 4 роки тому +1

    The conditions of sc/st is still deplorable.Only minimal percentage of its population raised upto the benchmark kept for EWS reservation.All things are political gimmick to woo the uppercaste voters in the backdrop of NDA-1 failures in runnings the government in every front.🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳

  • @dhristygarg23
    @dhristygarg23 5 років тому +1

    Well said sir! The whole reservation should be on economy basis not on caste basis

  • @omkarnath5461
    @omkarnath5461 5 років тому

    It's a welcome step for those who are economically not empowered ...but There is need of more debate and discussion in the country before implementation.

  • @kumarmanglam3101
    @kumarmanglam3101 5 років тому

    Only tondon sir is making balance between religion and politics

  • @MrHarsha8
    @MrHarsha8 5 років тому

    Deepak always rocks

  • @nehadokrimare4170
    @nehadokrimare4170 3 роки тому

    I don't understand why do people unlike this type of episode?

  • @kumarmanglam3101
    @kumarmanglam3101 5 років тому

    Sai sir is really lawyer to comprehend

  • @algoregeorge3316
    @algoregeorge3316 5 років тому +1

    Eliminate reservation
    Let talented people come to the main stream

  • @Amarappa-zd1eq
    @Amarappa-zd1eq 5 років тому +2

    J sai deepak👌👌

  • @mridulborah4505
    @mridulborah4505 5 років тому +1

    Irrespective of caste economically backwards are also socially backward.

  • @avdheshmalik5431
    @avdheshmalik5431 5 років тому +1

    It’s a welcome move by the government.

  • @rockym7135
    @rockym7135 5 років тому +24

    Which country has easy immigration possible from India?
    Please give information!

    • @aravindcarter
      @aravindcarter 5 років тому +5

      Pakistan

    • @futureca2632
      @futureca2632 5 років тому

      Canada

    • @SUNILPATEL-sr3kv
      @SUNILPATEL-sr3kv 5 років тому +2

      Yepp, thats the only solution, Its that bad but everybody is thinking about themselves. Nobody is thinking about removing reservation.

    • @rockym7135
      @rockym7135 5 років тому +1

      @@SUNILPATEL-sr3kv The unreserved people are minority. OBC is large people satisfied with atleast some reservations and now 10% poor of EWS.,
      The worst affected will be salaried class.
      No one will bother who Are less value to them in electoral politics😂!

  • @kunalvyasvlogs5485
    @kunalvyasvlogs5485 3 роки тому

    J sai Deepak real jame of person

  • @shakti777
    @shakti777 5 років тому +1

    👌nice debate

  • @bondjames0077
    @bondjames0077 5 років тому

    he said that the price of a plot is higher in the urban area than rural area but the cost of living is also higher in the urban area

  • @manurajkatare8922
    @manurajkatare8922 3 роки тому

    I saw it today thinking it's happening again 😂😂

  • @MrSelva40
    @MrSelva40 5 років тому

    Good discussion. I still have some doubts. There is no exclusive state lists for general category castes in many states. If an economically weaker candidate of general category wants to apply for a job under state public service commission what is the requirements he/she has to qualify.

    • @jayeshagrawal9472
      @jayeshagrawal9472 5 років тому +2

      The current legislation is for the reservation in central services and educational institutions. So the some criteria won't be applicable to the states, for state services and educational institutions one will have to go through as to what states may specify.

  • @deepikatiwari7231
    @deepikatiwari7231 5 років тому +1

    Remove caste remove reservation

  • @prajaktagaikwad5433
    @prajaktagaikwad5433 5 років тому

    J saaideepak a person wid tremendous knowledge.

  • @anonymous_channel
    @anonymous_channel 5 років тому +1

    I think there are alot of complications and this is going to increase the competition very much

    • @user-gn8zt2zx2i
      @user-gn8zt2zx2i 5 років тому +1

      This will not change competition at all..it just help poor general a bit..

  • @sankety2196
    @sankety2196 5 років тому +1

    This bill is going to have long term ramifications like Mandal and if ratified by SC too, it is going to open the gates for the discussion about overall revision of reservation system.Bcoz , though 'affirmative action principle' is equivocally accepted, One should not forget its against the equality nd should not be continued for indefinitely long time - 'Unrevised'!

  • @sathwik98
    @sathwik98 5 років тому

    The property cost can be high, that cannot fetch monthly income or raise standard of living or provide jobs or education merit seats. A home below 1000sqft in bangalore is not going to fetch a large amount

  • @gauravraj5163
    @gauravraj5163 5 років тому

    Well I think the income cap is kept a bit high as still the needed ones have to compete roughly with 1.2 bn out of 1.25 bn which changes almost nothing.

  • @JokerJoker-xc7xb
    @JokerJoker-xc7xb 2 роки тому +1

    Reservation must be Given to the Financially Weaker Sections and not the Cast Based section...
    this is the GOOD reservation,,
    Today we have BAD Reservation..
    also change the Economic Policy so that, the Education system in Bharat will be Free of Cost..
    that will be the Foundation way to scrap out BAD RESERVATION and make Bharat an Atma Nirbhar and Prosper Civilisation..

  • @raraj1993
    @raraj1993 5 років тому

    SIR Sai Deepak YOUR INFORMATION VERY HELP US AND WE WILL SEE YOUR BECOME CJI OF INDIA

  • @arunsivaraman8235
    @arunsivaraman8235 5 років тому

    No need of states ratification since there is no amendments on the federal provisions,only special majority is needed to amend the fundamental rights

  • @allensebastian97
    @allensebastian97 5 років тому

    I think there should have been a panelist who strongly opposed this legislation to grab both the sides of the argument

  • @gautamsachdev900
    @gautamsachdev900 5 років тому +1

    👌👌

  • @commanderofkesariyaknights
    @commanderofkesariyaknights 5 років тому +1

    sc st obc population is not 70 percent. It is a big myth based on false census done in 1930.
    The new data based on national survey says that obc r only around 30 to 35. Most of them r classified arbitrarily based on vote banks without any regard to real backwardness criteria.
    Economic criteria and location of ppl where they live r only criteria which decides their access to upward mobility.

  • @sagar25496
    @sagar25496 5 років тому +1

    We asked them to remove reservation, they came up with a new one.
    I found the 8 lakh rupee threshold a big mistake, it must be around 4 or 5 lakhs so that the real needy can be benefitted.
    NO HARD FEELINGS. #PEACE

  • @upanidesh
    @upanidesh 5 років тому

    This bill along with the upcoming "OBC sub categorization" commission report will be an improvement over the reservation system. But ultimately, everything depends on implementation.

  • @pk13066
    @pk13066 5 років тому +2

    only important point is that in indira sahwney vs union of india 50 % cap imposed was only on caste based reservation, and not on other criteria. topic close

  • @deepakchoudhary5410
    @deepakchoudhary5410 5 років тому +1

    The only problem faced by children of socially advanced castes who are genuinely economically backward is that they are not able to afford education to the fullest level. This problem can be solved by having a scheme of scholarships and education loans so that it can support the economically backwards classes.

  • @abhinav.mishra17
    @abhinav.mishra17 5 років тому

    Education and health is needed for all not lollipop of reservation. These two most important things are totally ignored in public debate.

  • @kanchans2451
    @kanchans2451 5 років тому

    Absolutely political decision at this time as also conveniently proven by the esteemed panelists that none of the parties would object to it. As it is the posts in the govt are decreasing eg: UPSC, over and above the already set ceiling of 50% reservation another 10% for EWS is a direct slap on the generalists. Should this said 10% be given at all, then it must be accommodated within the 50% category. Doesn't matter which party forms the govt but they must be mindful of the implications they have by their decisions and in this case very far and wide! Disgusted!

  • @sumanokram183
    @sumanokram183 5 років тому +3

    Thank you Ashok Tandon Sir. For supporting Reservation for ST,SC and OBC .

  • @jayshelke5096
    @jayshelke5096 5 років тому +2

    J Sai Deepak.....Jay Maharashtra

  • @anuragsingh135
    @anuragsingh135 5 років тому

    And respected Sir and former Bureaucrat doesn't know about reservation and confusing political reservation with reservation for public.. plz correct me if m wrong.

  • @sidhantnegi9013
    @sidhantnegi9013 5 років тому

    I would say it's a welcoming idea of giving reservation solely on the basis of economic parameters, not only to upper cast but to everyone irrespective of caste.....it's already been 70 years NOW!!

  • @iasaspirant5659
    @iasaspirant5659 3 роки тому

    10:35 in Indira Sahini case Supreme Court of India ruled in 1992 that reservations could not exceed 50 percent anything above which it judged would violate equal access as guaranteed by the Constitution

  • @saluka1000
    @saluka1000 5 років тому +1

    what I got from it,
    a- person whose salary is 65k per month is poor, though most of the gov jobs dont provide this package at initial level at least,
    b- political parties could not oppose because they cant afford it, may be they like it or not.
    c- Its leading to a more refined aspect of reservation like for women, 3genders, refugees etc,
    now what lead the gov to take this step in the last day of parliament or BJP gov,
    d - no data is given to back the this argument of backwardness and creamy layer, as per my knowledge.
    1-It failed to create the jobs in gov and pvt field both miserably as it had promised and made people dream by make in india and other programs.
    2- Education system is junk, it can produce cheap labor for USA not scientists or ENTREPRENEURS.
    3- Neta have enough money to send their children abroad for study and most of the indian collages belong to them.
    4 - If we really want progress, will have to appreciate merit not cast.
    its better to make the cast meritorious not the merit on cast.
    pls forgive for mistakes :)

  • @vinaytharendragowda1144
    @vinaytharendragowda1144 5 років тому +7

    Being a student I am follower of big picture . . I have noticed Sai derpak is an excellent speaker but sir is very extreme in his thoughts which is a harm to student's exam think point of view . . Kindly take it into consideration @rajya sabha TV . . We need ppl on deck who are balanced in their opinion

    • @shraddhasrivastava1198
      @shraddhasrivastava1198 5 років тому +7

      Leftist? Dude he was the one to argue against women's entry in the Sabrimala case!! Refer to his other interviews/videos..He is more of a rightist I suppose.

    • @diwakarmishra3350
      @diwakarmishra3350 5 років тому +1

      Leftist ??? Ha ha you are living in parallel world 😂😂😂😂

    • @udayteja5402
      @udayteja5402 5 років тому +2

      Happiness Reloaded Bro RSTV bas UPSC students k liye nahi h and BTW He is the by far the best panelist we’ve got till date on BIG PICTURE.Hope you follow more debates from now on!

    • @Ask35720
      @Ask35720 5 років тому

      Just shut up bro

    • @Ask35720
      @Ask35720 5 років тому

      @@shraddhasrivastava1198 I don't think you can quantify him to either left or right, like all sensible people he appears a centrist to me. Whatever might be the case he can walk his talk.

  • @piyushgour4928
    @piyushgour4928 5 років тому +1

    First of all it will not gonna benefit the economically weaker section because the cap is 8 lakh.
    Now a person who earns 66000 per month is equivalent to person who earns 10000 per month.
    And the fruits of this 10% reservation will be taken by a person earning 66000 per month because he has much better facilities and can prepare well for govt jobs.
    *This is just a vote bank Act to cover 96% peoples and not at all for economically Weaker section otherwise the cap would be 3 lakh approx*

  • @sparshtyagi8497
    @sparshtyagi8497 5 років тому +1

    Why is Frank going all beared?

  • @krishnakant2138
    @krishnakant2138 5 років тому

    It should be only for.. IRDP and BPL peoples.. all problem of the regulations will solve itself..