Why Palm Oil Is So Cheap
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- Опубліковано 15 лис 2019
- Palm oil is cheap and ubiquitous. It’s used in thousands of everyday products and is the most widely consumed vegetable oil on the planet. You can get a kilo of palm oil for just $2. But its usage has become unsurprisingly controversial, as huge areas of rainforest have been cut down or burned to make way for palm plantations. So, why is this oil still so cheaply and readily available?
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Why Palm Oil Is So Cheap
Making video about palm oil, without interviewing indonesian or malaysian is abit off
Yeahhh you are absolutely right
Western oil industries: "lemme just destroy their business*
*deforestation issues inbound*
Yeah they make their money and have an income how evil... Grow up greenies ... This global warming is cyclical... It will cool again on its own schedule not ours.... We make up less than 3 percent of all pollution on this planet... Reduculous to think you have any thing to do with it... Going to charge a volcano for pollution too?
@@tella117 well, lets look at who just made up some facts right here! Although the earth does has a cycle, that cycle is very long and has stable changes in temperature. From the industrial revolution onwards, the amount of Co2 humans release into the atmosphere as boomed. Now you might be thinking " well trees will take care of it" but they don't. Durring the summer is when there are the lowest points of Co2 in the atmosphere because all trees have leaves. During the winter, the Co2 levels rise. This causes a continues heating of the earth because of the output of Co2 humans produce. If you look at recorded graphs, you will see a rise in Co2 emissions. You may say this is just a cycle. Its not. Look at previous Co2 cycles and their rate of change. Nothing compares to the current rapid rate of increase. I would advise you backing up your claims with reasoning and evidence before spewing false facts.
yeahh
US government: *Palm oil?* ( ͡o ͜ʖ ͡o)
More like palm *OIL*
vishal giraddi ?
vishal giraddi oh I get it lol
It is cooking oil
No .
Palm *OIL*
( ͡◉ ͜ ʖ ͡◉)
You: Why is palm oil so cheap?
Business Insider:*starts explaining why it's bad for the environment*
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Yea, somehow politic always involved
Exactly this video was already biased
Leading in with meaningless subjective language like "controversial"
The whole narration would be different if "85% of palm oil production came from European countries"
Poor people in India can not buy Olive oil .It is sold at 130 rupees in litre ( 78 rupees of India is equal US 1$ )
@@hippopole9657 yea, and this is dirt, dirt cheap for my frame of reference...
@@MrM-or6uh What seems dirt and useless for some people , is precious items for poor hungry man .
@@hippopole9657 a couple of month ago palm oil price in Indonesia reached 2$ per litre and people are going mad for that.
Right? Smh apparently the whites think there’s nothing good in Africa
Extremely cheap for westerners but for us in southeast asia which has lower income it was only cooking oil that most of us can afford
In India too. We import lots of it
Only in indonesia and african country .. while i know that malaysia and china are also cheap for them
Exactly
Most Indian prefer ground nut oil.
@LagiNaLangAko23 Palm oil = 627usd per metric ton, while coconut oil = 719usd per metric ton.. also need to add that my country need to import coconut oil which will increase the price to the consumer
USA : cutting down tree to make cow farm
World : totally fineee
Some third world country : cutting down tree to plant another tree
World : waitt thats illegal
same same.
There are so many open plains in the US, that's where cattle are kept. It would be more expensive to cut down trees. I understand your point, but it's not what actually happens.
The US doesn't practice slash and burn like Malaysia and Indonesia does though
Hocneg it’s more about biodiversity
soya bean , corn & etc congrats ...
Actually there is some bias in the palm oil dispute. Not all palm oil are produced in deforested Borneo and Sumatra, but instead some are produce from replantation effort of industrialized Java in an attempt to make it green. We had one in Bogor for an example.
Totally biased video. Western countries produce oil which is much costlier and worse for environment.. Southeast Asian countries are getting cooking oil for cheap which they dislike. If not for india and China, Western countries would have tried to stifle palm oil production and force people into famine
most of the palm plantation are on virgin forest especially on sumatera island(RIAU-NorthSumatera), have you come to sumatera ?
please dont be silly
It is a dirty market where cheap oil is used to produce cheap and toxic food and hair and body "care" products. Farmers need to grow crops for their own families and animals not for big companies like Oreo to become huge giants that feed on people's and children health around the world like Coca-Cola!
And there is no documentary about the soy farmers who are deforesting Borneo and Sumatra and the Amazon. Nor the lumber companies, and charcoal harvesters .
It's almost like if there is an anti-Palm oil agenda and it's not actually about deforestation.
Talking about a tree affecting nature, while sitting in a room with AC, what a irony
A documentary about palm oil without interviewing the locals? Wow so brilliant!
Introducing Malaysia and Indonesia palm oil with African videos...... Legit
Pinter
Agreed, Pop. Almost makes one wonder if they have some agenda?
@@earlysda yes , the locals are very dark skin and it goes against Hollywood and the media trying to whiten the media and races
its not a documentary, it is a propaganda film. they are trying to make something look bad without providing the details on how it would be bad or fully covering the topic. basically Fake News
I am Indonesian, and i don't hate palm oil, i just hate the company who don't care about the damage after Harvest palm oil money
and all the money they make of it, and yet they don't pay their workers a livable wage
I know ,that's the sad truth of corruption in our country
@@ssaadd2845 this time its not gov its the company ok
@@arrielradja5522 i understand that
Avatar movie scenario, exactly !
Did you know that sunflower planting area used to be forest too?
The reason the west only focus on palm oil mainly due to palm oil is planted in many developing countries and 3rd world nations. These countries are just starting to industrialize their farming, which needs large area. The west already long passed this stage: Deforesting to make ways for crops being planted in mass.
Good point mate, but I understand that large parts of Ukraine, where sunflowers are grown have always been grassland.. too arid for forest to grow.
no doubt. because palm oil kills sunflower, canola, peanut oil (to name a few)...
Yeah
Fuels are dangerous for the environment too but since the automobile industry dominates the economy of western europe they don't ban cars, yet someone it's okay to tell countries that depend on palm oil to ban it because because rain forest dies.
Meanwhile everytime I drive I see acres and acres of farmland with strips of wood.
That is mostly untrue, almost never has there been that much deforestation. other regions dont have that much forest.
@@Xactenergy That's exactly the point that the OP is making.. you just defeated yourself
I still have memories of running around the palm plantation as a kid while my dad worked there.
USA : Malaysian and Indonesia need freedom...
Exactly!
Malaysia and Indonesia is a healthy mature democracy.
USA : "not enough, let me introduce mine... 🔥💥🗯️🕳️... this is what we called democracy... ".
HAHAHHAHA this joke is stale.
Malaysia and Indo already too cucked by their own government there won't be anything left when the US gets there lmao
No thank you. Our democracy works fine here.
As a kid who grew up in Africa. I have not seen a Moore beneficial tree than a palm tree. There is a nut in the palm and that nut can also produce black oil. This black oil is call cannel oil. Th branch can the palm tree is be use for broom, for temporary house roof farmer used them for temporary house on the farm. The stem can be use for food, I mean in the middle of the palm tree when u split it there is a white something which can be cool as strew the leaf can be use to make mat. And when the palm tree dies it have animals that live it it, them are palm worms. Them are very gravy and good to steam . I used to eat them a lot. Palm tree is so beneficial that I can’t list every benefit of it.
This was a freaking cool comment to read. I grew up in a suburban neighborhood 🙁
Abraham Swaray dude don’t say black oil , America will hear u
Banana is similar (although technically it's not a tree)
Similarly like a coconut tree
I grew up in Nigeria, and I couldn't agree more with you!! Palm tree is amazing!!
Problem is: while palmoil has a negative impact on the environment, the impact per kg is still much lower than for other oils, because it has by far the biggest yield per area. This is the reason why it is grown in such large quantities in the first place. Replacing it would actually make the problems worse.
Then stop buying processed food!
@@loanicastillo3327
Stop eating, drinking, and breathing. Very good for health.
@@cristsan4171 You can make your own bread, cakes and cookies. You can even buy a breadmaker. Cookies are not an everyday thing because they are loaded with calories. Otherwise you can buy your bake in a traditional bakery. If you can have access to this there is no need to buy processed food at the store. People often abuse processed food.
I’m Malaysian and as usual, this video happens to be here because palm oil can’t be produced in the west. I’ve been living in Malaysia and so far there’s no major damage I have witnessed from the palm oil plantation in my country. We still have lots of well preserved rainforest here. Come to Malaysia and see yourself then you can talk.
Like 30% of Malaysian rainforest has been cut down in the last 20 years. This is bad for everybody, and is leading to species going extinct and making climate change worse. Agriculture is a primary reason for that deforestation.
people just talk, don't come to see. well in europe very small forest, mybe one in usa or europe don't have forest anymore, right now 2022 malaysia and indonesia still have big rainforest..
@@louisholden5127lol talk that to soy bean company
Too. Oh they cut Amazon forest and their forest for soybean = no issues . When their competitors cut partly of their forest to plant another tree is issues?
The amount of land needed for soy bean to produce the same amount of palm oil is 9×>. so what make you think palm oil destroy forest while soybean are not?
In term of all vegetables oil. Land of usage for plantation and amount of oil they produce to the market. Palm oil use 6% among total of land use for ( agriculture of vegetables oil) to produce 40% of the production of total vegetables oil market. Meanwhile soy bean use 40% among total of land of agriculture land for vegetable oil to produce 36 % of market.
So now the question is who is more effectively using the least amount of land produce the most eatable oil? Soy bean is so less efficient and more environment haRd to the environment yet the " soybean company's use their " resources by sponsor those " ngo such as wwf and so on to condemn their competitors.
Yeah in wwf eye only palm oil make animal extinct, soy bean destroy Amazon forest they couldn't "see" blindfolded with "money". Since pass 20-30+year orang hutan gonna extinct within 5 year because of palm oil. Yet is oranghutan extinct? Meanwhile how many animal already extinct in USA and amazon due to soybean industry? Oh wwf only see " oranghutan" amazon wildlife and USA wildlife is not part of their concern due to money from soybean industry blindfold them like this right🤑?
@@louisholden5127 I think its 30% of tree cover, not 30% of primary forest... imho.. tree cover also meant algricultural tree.. ie palm oil and rubber tree.. they also uses satellite images to make their calculation.. meaning replanting will also looks like removing tree cover.. ie planting new palm oil tree tor replace the old ones.
1) 62.3% of Malaysia is forest with 32.6m population & 52.1% of Indonesia is forest with 270.6m population. Your ratio?
2) Palm oil trees produce fresh fruits all year long for 30 years with minimal chemical fertilizer, can your own crops do the same?
3) Palm oil tree is a jungle/ forest tree not like corn, wheat, canola, sunflower etc.
4) Oil palm (Elaeis guineensis) is an African jungle tree, rubber (Hevea brasiliensis) is a Brazilian jungle tree and the durian (Durio zibethinus) is a Malaysian jungle tree. Over the years, Malaysia & Indonesia has planted billions of these wonderful trees.
5) Malaysia & Indonesia should send invoices to develop countries for the Oxygen produced by rain forest & oil palm trees since most of the hypocrite world industrial CO2 produced in the northern hemisphere.
Thank you. These THINGS because not people just want to be social justice warriors attacking everything without evidence with their clueless and nonevidential mindset they have in today's world. Mostly Europeans and Americans because they've had it generationally given to them with no real work put it due to free labor, forced labor, corruption, and plain out taking. So now they wanna bash people who actually have to start from scratch for their daily livings. Hypocrisy at it's finest and if you ask one of them to dig a hole to plant a tree they would need therapy after.
Well said
legit points
these so called 1st world countries demand cheap prices from the market, and then came here all high and mighty like the SJWs they are, blaming us for everything.
you should copy this and spam to all hate comment. 😂
Thid video doesnt give a clear closure and is just directionless
agreed
There is no simple answer.
it is supposed to make you think
Minjae Jun well then that’s just bad design, as your video is gonna be highly controversial and it’s UA-cam, people clicked on your video for answers.
Talking about asia but showing Africa 🤦♀️
This didn't aged well in may 2022, my guy
So since the video doesnt really answer the question at all heres the short version for everyone.
Palm oil is so cheap because the yield is insanely high, no other oil can compete with the high yields so they cant compete with the price as well.
-Your Mc'D & KFC's fried of everything... Palm oil.
-Your kid's Oreo... Palm oil.
-Your wife&daughter's shampoos... Palm oil.
-Bio diesel for your trucks... Palm oil.
-Your crunchy Pringles... Palm oil.
-Your Nutella jams... Palm oil.
-Your bread for breakfast... Palm oil.
-Some of your medicine... Palm oil.
-Your many kind of oil for your cook in your kitchen... Palm oil.
-Your boy's chocolate... Palm oil.
Etc...
Let me make it more clear, crop yields :
-Corn oil : 147 kg of oil per hectare/year
-Soybean oil : 375 kg of oil per hectare/year
-Sunflower seed oil : 800 kg of oil per hectare/year
-Olive oil : 1 ton of oil per hectare/year
-Palm oil : 5 ton of oil per hectare/year
Your choice
So men don't use shampoo? Good to know
Dave dude we have No facccckig Choice 🙀
You can avoid all of those products and use no oil at all. why do you need it?
@@velocecarriola9214 maybe as an emulsifier? Nah, companies never stop growing. Demand and supply will increase every year
@@velocecarriola9214 this is ridiculous statement.
Vegan said stop eating meat because it is not eco-friendly.
Now palm-oil hater said, stop eating everything with palm because it is not eco-friendly.
Whats next? Dont eat anything because it leaves carbon footprint.
Maybe if US actually reduce their beef consumption, it would be so much better for the environment. But who am i kidding?
It is always the developing country that is in the wrong.
It's because it's not grown in US. THAT'S THE PROBLEM.
MONEY BABY 💰
Dollar to rupiah
Dollar to Ringgit
Thats a bit off
Ferrari isn’t based in America bud 🤡
you correctly
lol
The problem has nothing to do about it not being from the US it’s about the environment impact and the cost to are planet. U should re watch the video
Two years ago palm oil and its products were dirt cheap. No more. The Russo-Ukraine War had upset the World's cooking oil market. Indonesia banned export of palm oil to tackle rising domestic demand hit by high prices. Ironical that this video's main emphasis was on palm oil's "cheapness and abundant supply". Manufacturers of food products must now find an alternative to palm oil. Or change food processing techniques to reduce use of palm oil altogether.
Oh poop nuggets, you're right mate!
Whats the alternative to palm oil? palm oil is the most efficient and cost effective among vegetable oil options.
@@harukrentz435 This is difficult to say. Consumers of course want cooking oil to be cheap but the medium should also suit the food that is being cooked in it. In Europe, people use olive oil as it gives a unique taste to the food and salad dressing. Palm Oil has numerous beneficial nutrients, In Asia we use coco nut oil, sunflower, safflower, corn oil, soya oil, rice bran oil etc. If palm oil goes off the market, the consumer will be forced to seek an alternative cooking oil available in the market and affordable too. I think lard made from animal fat ,butter, clarified butter (ghee) and hydrogenated fat(margarine) can be used as a cooking medium.
jokes on you all. palm oil not cheap anymore. haha
What this video takes about!
40%: Why Palm Oil is so cheap
60% The problems that come with Palm Oil
Propaganda
20% how you can do NOTHING to stop deforestation as palm oil will cause the least. See?
That's why it's cheap, needs to regulate to make it expensive..
Problem = palm oil is suck..
EU & USA = we need nikel for my Tesla 😂
@@teguh_gaz largest nicklel production: meh ban ore and raw nickel
The bug is underrated
The usage of the palm oil they mention are not a problem, they totally omitting the real issue 61% of palm oil is used as a biofuel. Biofuels from palm oil are responsible for almost all the deforestation in Indonesia and Malaysia.
Andrzej Samorzewski hahaha read more plz.
@@zamrelee1520 ?
Malaysia can produce it in large quantity with quality and it very cheap
They collected this plant and other plants from West Africa Sierra Leone it's very expensive her in Sierra Leone just because of corruption May Allah bless Us all.
Why is deforestation terrible in other countries, but ok in the US? My hometown used to have such beautiful forest areas and every year new neiborhoods, apartments highways and warehouses plants businesses clear more and more trees to build on the land. And yet there’s lots of old buildings rotting away in older sections of the town, no one is using them can’t those be knocked down instead to build new instead of tearing down the trees? Instead of biking or walking through forest or nature you get sidewalks and roadkill. Hypocritical to tell someone else what to do with their backyard while you do what you can to capitalize your own.
I'm old enough to remember when palm oil, along with coconut oil, was demonized as causing hardening of the arteries. Then people found out that many of those "studies" were sponsored by soybean oil producers, and that millions of people live just fine with coconut and palm oil. Glad to see Malaysia growing palm oil, but sad to see huge tracts of land going mono-culture.
You had me in the first half.
Gotta go back to soybean then
@@ironpulcinella3586 I lived in Sabah Malaysia a while, and the family I was with bulldozed a mountain and planted a bunch of palm trees. Probably millionaires by now....
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@NormalStyleCrew Normal, Animal fat is really bad for you. In fact, humans were not created to kill and eat anything.
US Army: DID YOU SAY OIL? Looks like you need some democracy
@@nationalist5422 not us army the us government
Bill Mcfags hahahahaha america bad
Филипп Качура Welp joke ruined
We Indonesian already taste American's freedom although its not popular and severe compared to middle eastern countries
Nope thanks, we Indonesian already adopt this so called democracy, can't afford anything more
palm oil is VERY EFFICIENT though. If you ban palm oil, companies or whoever will still use other oils. And along with it EVEN MORE destruction of space or wtv to plant the plants they want their oil from. You have to completely ban usage of any oil from plants to prevent 'destruction' of trees or space or deforestation or whatnot.
Which is impossible.
atleast these westerners can stop using toilet paper first!
Investing in palm oil production in areas that are already deforested would be beneficial.
After 2 years it's the most valuable and scarce thing on planet 😅
A western part had completly destroyed their forests for agricultural land.. Now those people are talking about environmental damage. What an irony
Lol, don't forget the poison in the Vietnam war which destroys the forest and animals along with the Vietnamese's genes.
Yeah.
What about the origin of canola and sunflower field?
Because who will supply those developed country if not with these "poor" countries? They need oxygen but cannot produce enough for their own.
@@bobsemple7660 mistake? Simple we has learn about reforestation, what about the west start reduce farmland and reforestation at least 60% of you country. Like wise developed countries like Malaysia and Indonesia have more than 70% land reserve as rainforest.
True hypocrite at it's best
Westerners grows corn, wheat, other plant that flattens lands
World: its fine
South east asian grows palm tree
World: HOLD UP
*deforestation issue inbound*
@@saveriannathan1415 they are exaggerating it.
propaganda
@@gridselix They arent
@@sharpshooter4529 they are. I come from Malaysia. First when they announce this, they said it's bad for health. Now they are changing the issue which is partly true
2020: why palm oil is cheap?
2022 : where is palm oil?
Seriously why palm oil price is increasing?
@@AjayPatil-fj5tu Indonesia as the biggest producer just ban palm oil export due to inflation in their domestic market
I vote y'all make "So cheap" a new series along "So expensive"
According to studies, palm oil is more safe than soy bean oil.
And palm oil need less space than soy bean oil in plantation.
Malaysia and Indonesia still have more jungle than USA and many Europe countries
Koleng Andi But the Amazon is being cut down for it, I agree it's a good oil but it needs to be sustainable and the income needs to be given to the locals. But it's not
Amazon?
Koleng Andi The Amazon rainforest
Wow.. I don't know they planted palm oil at amazon.
It's new to me
Neither oil palm or soy bean oil, both need to cut down forest.
About the sustainability, you can read about MSPO.
About giving back to the local, it's the company false not palm oil.
Although if they plant soy bean.
Did yall grow your soya beans, corn and sunflowers in the air without using soil or something?
It was probably grown without destroying forests
@@vishalgiraddi5357 all farmlands week forest... Did you grow them in the middle of the dessert?
@@tristan6509 nope, us was mainly grassland, idk about Europe though
@@tristan6509 there's corn fields in the middle of the Arizona desert, but they had to remove the cactuses to grow there
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how i wish canola oil , sunflower oil , sesame oil , olive oil, coconut oil etc etc... were as cheap as palm oil... people can dream....
Everyone is buying palm oil,
Corn oil and sunflower oil got butthurt,
Coconut oil is smiling and slipping pina colada in a beach
And actually coconut is palm oil siblings
Its bcoz of the people like you
😅😅
Edible Bird's Nest I don’t get it
Sam K m.ua-cam.com/video/oHg5SJYRHA0/v-deo.html
USA when Malaysia and Indonesia introduce palm oil: OK
USA when they realize u can use palm oil as a fuel: DO YOU WANT FREEDOM
DO YOU WANT DEMOCRACY
I can hear bald eagle screeching from afar
Actually palm oil can be fuel
Nah were good
our bus, truck or other vehicle with diesel engine is consume biodiesel, and that is made by palm oil
2022 : Why Palm Oil so Expensive😂
Exactly why I try to use anything that doesn’t have it
"Palm oil is bad " they said. Yeah it is because you guys don't want to lose the market of others type of oil. So what they do, spread propaganda about how bad the palm oil and how it effects us.
Yeah, it's about a trade war declaration from other oil producers
“If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed’’ ~Hitler
@@benz_adam its not a lie tho. Palm oil monocultures are destroying the environment
@@MG-ul3mi my district got around 6 palm oil mill that covered thousands of hectares but still most of the area in my district are covered by tropical forest 🙄
Palm oil in high quantities can cause diabetes or rather insulin resistance. It coats the cells and insulin and sugar cant get into cells. Low oil and fat esp sat fat can increase insulin sensitivity
The US fights anything that competes with it.
Even for Corona virus cases.
Let me tell you why this is BS.Research shows that despite the well-known problems associated with palm oil, it’s still the best we’re going to get. It is very efficient, and to switch to alternative oils would use up to 9 times the amount of land, shifting the deforestation and biodiversity loss to other places and to other wildlife, such as bears and jaguars.
thezerowaster.com/2018/11/29/why-i-dont-avoid-palm-oil/
www.smart-tbk.com/en/peran-penting-kelapa-sawit-sebagai-sumber-pangan-dunia/
Best yield per hectare of oil compared to other type of vegetable oil
@Hendra Suryawijaya If you LISTENED, you would notice that they mentioned what you said in the video.
@@raydai9541 really? That's cool
@@zwekzzzzzz that's not the point my friend they already mentioned that in the video
Do you track and limit the production of steel and rare earth that you use to produce your big battle ship, high raise building and apple phone?
Exactly, taking out these things from the earth has made earth's core more unstable and most of us dont understand this.
The pods are the most delicious things when roasted and eaten. And the seed is so so good.
Is -lam oil bad for health?
@@wildcatslife686 It's relatively healthier compared to most cooking oil. Ofcourse it is still oil.
At last, there is something that indonesia and malaysia wouldn't quarrel about with each other
indo and malay can make a great duo if they having a really good relationship, they can ban a lot of serious route or atleast expensive if some countries **cough** Australia and China **cough** try anything stupid
@@imanafdar it's mostly the old gen and the new gen that got influenced by the old gen (from my point of view at least)
Almost every year, South East Asia suffers from a smog due to small land owning farmers in Indonesia burning their lands to plant things including palm oil
Source:
www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-34265922
Indonesia's primitive farming methods is what's giving palm oil a bad reputation, and Malaysia is being dragged down along with it
@@hiyukelavie2396 hmmm do You know that burning Forrest is illegal
Tell that to all the people and animals killed and land STOLEN for these farms, not including smashing out smaller farms of the people. Look at it like this, they are the huge superstore with all the power and money that moved into a small town with lots of small mom and pop shops, well they need room for their parking lot and the town's people won't sell because it's their blood, sweat, and tears, not to mention bread and butter. So that won't work so the superstore just says "oh yeah?" And sneaks over in the dead of night and lights up a whole block of stores. What happened?? Nobody knows? Was anyone killed? Nobody cares, oh look, clear land, let's just go ahead and start pouring concrete. Unfortunately they also have a currupt government that is paid to look the other way and before you know it, all the other little shops have to close because they can't compete with the prices, oh and they won't hire locally either, they'll and for people from elsewhere and take their passports and make them live in filth until their debt of getting them to said store is paid for, but jokes on them because not only they have to pay for that but also the rotten food and the leaky shelter to boot.. sorry, rant over, I just hate to see what is happening to these people and the forests
Just additional info, Malaysia has stopped palm oil-
related deforestation since 1990. I was raised in palm oil environment and i hardly saw new deforestation to open new palm oil estate etc. We highly committed to comply MSPO before 2020. I don't know about other countries.
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Almost every year, South East Asia suffers from a smog due to small land owning farmers in Indonesia burning their lands to plant things including palm oil
Source:
www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-34265922
Indonesia's primitive farming methods is what's giving palm oil a bad reputation, and Malaysia is being dragged down along with it
This is the comment I was looking for
There is a huge difference between the palm oil industry in Malaysia and Indonesia
I see a lot of Indonesians in the comment section trying to defend palm oil and they lump Malaysia and Indonesia together
The problem is mostly in Indonesia
Indonesia's slash and burn methods is what's giving palm oil a bad reputation, and Malaysian palm oil is being dragged down together
Not to mention the yearly smog that Malaysia suffers
Not only is slash and burn in Indonesia hurting our public health, it's also hurting our palm oil industry
I wish the Malaysian government did more pressure Indonesia to stop using cheap slash and burn methods - if Indonesia wants to be part of the palm oil industry, it has to invest in more modern farming methods, otherwise they are just ruining the industry for the rest of us
@@hkautodetailing6169 sedih tengok orang Malaysia di bandar, yang dah ada gaji tetap tiap-tiap bulan gelakkan penanam sawit ni tiap kali harga sawit jatuh. Bahkan sokong kempen anti-sawit tapi tak kenal pun cerita pokok sawit yang sebenar.
Not true. I still see new forest opened up for palm oil plantation in Pahang.
I'm not against palm oil, but it certainly need to be controlled.
p.s. I also have a stake of interest in palm oil, but we should speak facts not lies.
Im a malaysian and since our country is small while still make alot of palm oil, so theres alot i mean alot of them in the forest, infact if u take the highways most of the times it will just be palm tree everywhere next to you
*In poor countries, this oil is suitable for eating*
Nah, every oil, regardless oil sources, can be eaten. But no one want to eat or drink pure oil :) and btw, i don’t recommend the word “poor countries”. Pls call them as some “developing countries”.
If palm oil one of US big industries, nobody would bat an eye.
If this was an american industry and this was ruining American Forests with endangered species of animals, trees and plants/bugs. Then yes, the populace of the USA following the world would pressure the state to place in regulations.
@@moronichuman762 the us may do that yeah, but compared to the ten times worse consequences of other oils, pal oil isn’t so bad
the us always has problems with the things they steal from Africa
@@moronichuman762 i dont believe it because usa are greedy.. the example is OIL
Even if people stop using Palm Oil for food or cosmetic products, palm oil production will increase because palm oil also can be transformed into Biodiesel fuel.
People who use cosmetics, really don't check the ingredients and where they come from. They don't check the back story, how many people are exploited in the process.
And because of that malaysia and indonesia will be introduced to democracy by america
It doesn't work that way. The demand rules
Less incentive conversion into biodiesel, such idea only popular when diesel prices skyrocketing
Its not cheap anymore after Indonesia started using 30% biodiesel mix.
Indonesia : bans export of palm oil.
Me : comes here to check how to make my own from home.
This kind of grease can be filtered with a filter screen machine to remove impurities, which is more hygienic.
There's a moment where malaysia and indonesia in the same boat (they often didnt get along), this is the case.
What are you talking it is publice health issue
@@sarbeswardas2768 wtf are you talking about im talking about EU - Malaysia Indonesia relations regarding palm oil trade.
@@wenaldy Almost every year, South East Asia suffers from a smog due to small land owning farmers in Indonesia burning their lands to plant things including palm oil
Source:
www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-34265922
Indonesia's primitive farming methods is what's giving palm oil a bad reputation, and Malaysia is being dragged down along with it
@@hiyukelavie2396 I read your source, and it says malaysia also involved in the name of investment. Malaysia isn't good as you think it is as they basically pay for it.
@@hiyukelavie2396 some of big plantation here belong to malaysian chinese
Lot of oil palm plantations in Malaysia was previously planted with unproductive crop such as cocoa and rubber. We do not sacrifice our rainforest. In fact, rainforest is covered more than 50% of Malaysia total land area.
As you try to search for other alternative edible oil, do your study on how much forest area left in US as they planting other type of oil crop. No crop can fight the effectiveness of oil palm.
Zakwan Zailan well said brother
bUT what about the inhabitants?
@@kenji9445 this is parennial crop, last for about 20-25 years. You should be worries for other type of oil crops, every year they keep disturbing the land for replanting. Try to ask for their inhabitants, plus they use much more land to produce more oil as they use inefficient oil crop.
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@@zakwanzailan7870 thanks for speaking up for our country. Palm oil is indeed cheaper, healthier and better than any foreign oil like corn oil, canola oil, etc.
Those orchards are so beautiful! But the forest before were so much more beautiful and wonderful.
Sustainable "anything"; is just there to reassure you that you are not doing a "bad" to environment when you are buying it.
Reality is there is nothing like that.
The root cause is "the need"; which is mainly from west, to make life easier
You are not far enough down the rabbit hole.
You are snowing anger instead of indifference to everything as there is no meaning in anything and to show any interest be it positive or negative is to show yourself to be selfish.
Topic is about malaysia and Indonesia, but why shows African manual labor process of the palm oil? We use machines and factory to produce mass product of oil
Edit: Makes me shed a happy tear when Indonesians and Malaysians finally united in this thread
Want to make us look backwards and primitive
Propaganda, as usual.
It's European propaganda so we can sold our palm oil because European product is sunflower or olive oil😂
@Yuwawira Ina Putra ofcourse they do,not like Capitalism in West who steal oil from middle East 😂
@@afq4669 but with oil payment right😂
Let me tell you, the answer is: because it grows in Indonesia!
If it grows in Europe/US/western area it would be expensive like the avocado case.
@@jeffc2346 yes, I'm an idiot who lives in a third world country where palm oil tree and avocado can grows: Indonesia.
I hope the Indonesian gov't protects the endangered animal species like in malaysia
@@narendraadiwibowo162 lol delusional
indo government are corrupt AF plus denying exiatence of haze comming from indo / spread to other countries despite everyone is proving them with statistic and images / videos
Narendra Adiwibowo I mean the gov say the “protect” endangered animal but they just say it they don’t enforce the rule
Avacodo grows in Mexico which is a third world country that has a cartel problem
85% of palm oil is from Malaysia and Thailand and no one from those countries was interviewed . People who are interviewed sit in London and they know exactly what is happening on the ground .
Good insight video... Glad to hear for once, that the palm oil itself isnt the problem.
What you have to realize is that if we tried to replace palm oil with other types of oils, it would take 10x the space...
For comparison, soy bean needs a lot more land compared to palm tree. If the palm tree is banished, more land will be required to plant soy bean to produce an equal amount of oil
There is no "magic" in agriculture. All the nutrients a plant produces and packs into its seeds, fruits or leaves must come from somewhere. In this case, an intensive plant like the oil palm drains the nuitrients from the carbon-rich mass of the freshly slashed and burnt rainforest biomatter. Once the freshly cleared soil is drained by the palms, the whole process must be moved - you cannot do it repeatedly on one place, hence it's not sustainable. You need more and more rainforest to slash and burn and turn into oil - that's why it's problematic.
You are consuming primary plant production (the original rainforest) that took centuries to form at a breakneck speed.
@@Kamamura2 You must keep this in mind that the lifespan of palm trees is about 18 to 25 years which is much longer compared to other alternatives and that is the reason why they are called sustainable. There is nothing that we can called perfect method and palm oil is a better option as the recycle time to replant the trees is much longer compared to the other options.
@@Kamamura2 why don't you tell that to soy bean farmers?
@@aimanshahmi9514 what? 25 year? im sure the height is still reachable and without much problem at that age, i guess must be because of type of tree? usually 30 year old tree that most ppl just start to say, nah, not worth the trouble unless the price per ton is high at the time
@@maxinehell1394 2 years late I know but Palm trees create much more oil than any other plant per hectare of land, so everyone in the industry knows that it's a profitable bet.
Finally, a video with the word "cheap" in the title
In Mauritius our pushed for FSC certification but governement does nothing to encourage this nor are customers or retailers interested to even discuss this. Palm oil will be even more ignored.
Other oils like soy oil, rapeseed oil simply couldn't compete with palm oil in term of quality and losing a lot of their customers, their fixation on palm oil give you a hint, you figure that out yourself, while brazil happily destroys their much much bigger rain forest and no one is saying anything
qyahb just another bullshit propaganda played by eu to boycott palm oil and western people still buy into that shit. Haha
Its not quality you junky. The penny cost of palm oil is main reason.
@@mrmeseeks8790 hello educate yourself before insulting people with the word junky, it exposed the level of your education and stupidity
@@qyahb3822 soy bean is shit palm oil is healthier
Virgin other oils, Chad palmoil
Rich countries: let’s build our country full of houses roads airports factories cars polluting the planet but forbid the poor countries to develop and earn money because we need their forrest for oxygen
False.
Palm oil is harmful to health.
No one forbids poor countries to develop ... you are just incapable of doing it and blame it on others
Hypocrisy of developed nation as always
Can you imagine if they replaced all the golf courses with palm plantations?
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Too bad.
Palm Oil are actually very healthy compared to seed oils despite the environmental cost.
The post in 2 years old back then.. let’s check how “cheap” now after Indonesia Govt banned the export until the next policy to release it again.
Wow. I am impressed looking at all these comments. Malaysian and Indonesian are united. Very different compared to football videos comment section. Lol.
Malaysia have more than 50% reserve rainforest
62.3% to be exact 💪
The problem is not Malaysia but indonesia
Great doc. Love it
Palm oil producer are the real mvp.
U cant make certain west african food without palm oil 💁🏾♀️
Iamagave so true , a lot of west African food actually.
if the US produce it and it should be okay and healthy
You mean McDonalds?
Ok boomer
It makes no difference . It'll still give you health problems like any other oil .
Corn oil...
@@liete-sl2wg you didn't get what he is saying
So Interesting. Thanks!
why is the comment section attacking the video regarding palm oil alternatives? It does say in the video that the alternatives are worse than palm oil in term of landmass use. Either the video is edited afterwards or people just did not watch the video til the end.
They should have compare it to other type of plants that are used to make oil. This this totally missing the whole point.
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They don't teach that sensible and empirical approach in imperial College and college of Copenhagen. They teach only to spread propaganda. That's why all west will attack east, the day they feel threatened
2:43 Did you watch the video? They pointed out that very thing, saying "searching for an alternative might actually make things worse. Palm oil is so efficient that using an alternative oil would use up to ten times the land to grow".
@@MrAwawe yet they campaigning to use alternative edible oil, driving demand low producing oil to expand more their plantation by clearing more land to plant more like soy plantation in Brazil.
Now that the US created chaos among natural petroleum countries, now there next tarted is vegetable oil countries: PPP
@TheEditor107 Fr?
Hello I'm in love with ur roast videos 😂😂
@TheEditor107 Most likely because of a shit government then.
I don’t live in the us
@TheEditor107 Lmao your country has a problem wearing face masks. Idiots.
Thank you. I really don't know and don't think about people do this.
I don't know how much of the planet will be left by the time I grow old, if we make it that far.
Everyone talks about environment, without talking about human and family that works in that industry. Like they are evil or something. No, they just want to give their families food on their table by working there...
Western propagandists of course will treat the people as if they dont exist, their livelihood and family dont matter
Of course, they’re stuck within the system. The rich keep them poor, while they dream of rising from the ground. This is a problem no single person can’t fight enough for.
really? usually the workers stay poor while the plantation owners and corrupt officials are the ones who get rich.
And unfortunately the option available to them is wholeheartedly exploiting them and their environment. Not that much different from the cultuursteltsel days, really.
@@qyahb3822 Just like the Eastern propagandists, my friend.
I am Indonesian, oil palm plantations contribute greatly to the welfare of us small farmers. From the oil palm industry, millions of families depend on this sector for their living
I remember Indonesia burning the forest for planting palm-tree imagine the fogs or smoke from Indonesia visiting in the Philippines
I remember Indonesia burning the forest for planting palm-tree imagine the fogs or smoke from Indonesia visiting in the Philippines
Palm oil is good for health because of high saturated fat
@@richardranido377 In my country, Indonesia, there is already a rule not to burn land
@@richardranido377 In my country, Indonesia, there is already a rule not to burn land
I don't know how specific things work but can we dedicate a specific region/island with the least flora-fauna and turn it into a palm tree plantation? How about creating an artificial island in a tropical location with the least ecological impact such as damaging reefs and other aquatic species.
Or establishing palm plantation s in already deforested areas.
The cost will be higher. Not worth it.
I know no science..but that shit gives cholesterol
Its the worst type of oil
India me bc gareeb har product me palm oil daalte h
Whole Malaysia: 81million acre
Corn farm in US: 90million acre
Looks like we got corned
Ok ..now Google total areas of both countries
Palm oil plantation in Malaysia is everywhere!
The US cut forests down long before we knew about the climate crises though. Since the early 1900s, they’ve had regulations for it that these other countries don’t.
Qryptonaut the US land isn’t as important as Malaysia cause the US isn’t near to have as much biodiversity as the tropical countries where palm oil is planted
Hi Im form Malaysia. I can say that the info here is almost all BS. Come to Malaysia and Indonesia. See for yourself. We only allocated small amount of land to plant the palm oil. We have almost 90% of our reserve forest still to protectd wildlife and others species. Yes we cut the forest to make way for palm oil. But still if you compare it land area, we only use a small part of it. P/S: Actually this video is a propaganda from US to sell their Soy Bean.
The greatest lie one can say nowadays that "palm oil is cheap!!"😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
So cheap is my favorite series on business outsider
Why don’t you interview the West Africans who ARE growing it sustainably?
Thank you! It would defeat the western narrative that palm oil is bad. The palm tree is native to our lands, so I’m pretty sure we know how to grow it sustainably over our southeast Asian brothers and sisters.
right
Because >80% of palm oil is not in West Africa and not sustainable?
It is sustainable... The only problem it destroy tropical forest diversity
Because most of the supply are coming from southeast asia. I am sure -without you realising- you are consuming it on daily basis
Palm OIL? Looks like someone needs liberation
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😂, who know, when fossil oil depleted and technology advance enough to make 100% bio gasoline and diesel, democracy will come to palm oil 😆
It's Already owned by US company (directly or indirectly)
goddamit, your cousin cia are already tried to 'liberated' this ungrateful country indonesia so many times. don't say that he's forgot even one
Creepy that I got this suggested in my UA-cam feed in 2022
"Huge area cut down.." lol. Malaysia still has some 60-70% rainforest area today. Indonesia about the same.
If the EU and USA are able to grow such amazing palm trees, you guys wont be seeing this video 😎
And you will be paying lot more on many things eg : fast food prices whooping up
Where?
US soils only grow corns
Florida could do it in their swamps
palm trees actually can grown pretty much every where, wet and dry, swamp or field.
for example florida can be a good place for palm farm. but american don't like selling cheap stuff that can provide a lot of jobs for uneducated labor. that's why they only grown corn
Palm oil tree is magical tree that westerners jealous for,,, they're cheap, quite healthy, every part of the fruit is can used for every type of product, no waste, can produce for a whole year, 15 year life span,,, that is the truly magical tree,,
@TheGhost because it makes money fast maybe idk
@TheGhost because why not?
Especially the part about cancer and palm oil. Yeah healthy
If it's so magical why won't u marry it
@@TheJanis1993 You should know at this point that everything causes cancer
it's the first time i watch this channel, showing why something is cheap. haha
I took a cab from Kuala Lumpur to Johor recently, and all I could see were Palm trees throughout the 6 hours of the ride 🤐