This. I think it’s greatly underestimated how much humans do not get along for long periods cooped up together. Like it’s really quite astonishing, even your most cherished loved ones will eventually be unable to stand you and vice versa. It’s human nature.
From the moment I understood the weakness of the flesh, it disgusted me. I craved the strength and certainty of steel. I aspired to the purity of the blessed machine. Your kind cling to your flesh, as if it will not decay and fail you. One day, the crude biomass that you call a temple will wither, and you will beg my kind to save you. But I am already saved. For the machine is immortal.
You could also become a slave in your new body thanks to corporations that will demand you a fee for everything you do or experience, including stay alive (body parts maintenance)
If our galaxy was the size of the USA then our sun would be the size of a red blood cell. Ppl really don't understand the stupendous distances in the universe.
I mean when the astrophysicists and all explain it's basically impossible to wrap your head around, they're not lying! I mean a lot of concepts and observations are amazing and all, but usually make overall sense, but the second you talk about sizes and distances, it's a joke to really think we can grasp the scale. Astronauts have a better understanding perhaps, but when you bring in light years it just kinda goes poof to my brain. 🤯🍻🌎❤️🚀🕺
Not only is it accurate but our sun would be a little smaller than a red blood cell. The scales are inconceivable, the best we can do is stare at numbers that have no meaning to us and drool.@@bozo5632
Some of the relief and assurance I feel in JMG's videos is how it sticks to questions rather than answers. Flimsy assertions of what is "likely" are boring. Rather, questions about what lies just beyond the outer reaches of science are where new ideas for experiments are born. We have a saying in playing pool; ya gotta see the shot to make the shot. Thanks for helping us see shots we might take.
Dude, you have put together a really great channel here. I'm really psyched that I came across it and am now happily subscribed and look forward to checking out all your other content. Keep up the great work, brotha.
We might survive thousands of years to come and never discover alien life, perhaps a novel biosphere of microbes which would be the greatest discovery of all time without question which would be alien life but not what we want.
I love this channel because unlike many other astrophysics channels, I'm fairly certain content here isn't generated by bots retreading the same stuff over and over again.
The vastness of space makes me think that maybe in a galaxy far, far away there is another version of JMG making the same thoughts about their own galaxy. Thanks, John, for another great video.
Chances are the universe is infinite and there are exact copies of you and me and everything out there causally disconnected from us. In fact there are infinite number of copies.
And each of those infinite copies is just like JMG, expect perhaps for some minute detail, like, instead of suspiciously eyeing, he himself, instead, is being suspiciously eyed by some implement in his kitchen! *_*hits bong*_*
The most logical conclusion regarding faster-than-light travel is that we, at our current level of scientific knowledge, cannot possibly conceive of methods for achieving it.
I have read the book "Between the Strokes of Night" by Charles Sheffield. and in it he posits a sub light way of exploring the galaxy and possible the universe that is very different to any thing else i have heard about, it was an interesting read. I was wondering if the universe was a simulation being run to try and combat boredom for the crew and passengers of a sub light generation ship and we have all agreed to have our memories wiped before entering it so that for a time ( One life time) we forget that we are on a slow and boring trip to a new star.
Interesting idea - a middle generation would certainly resent their entire lives being in service to such a task. We may be middle-gens being fooled by a simulation so we don't take an axe to the StarDrive
This man must think far faster than most can. The completeness of his thoughts is even more amazing. As he speaks I start to wonder if he will mention a specific aspect of the situation he is describing, and before my idea is fully formed, he covers the point I was considering. SUBSCRIBED.
I've told you before how I know we're not alone. That at least is consolation. Does it bother me that those in charge would hide it? of course, but that's another subject. We trapped? Honestly a great Q that makes me wish Heinlein was still alive.
All this conjecture is fine, but what about the effects of microgravity? People would gradually turn into weird bloated jelly blobs and then when they arrive at any exoplanet, their bodies will be unable to handle its gravity. Decades ago there were clever ideas of spinning wheels in space to simulate gravity, but these ideas have never been implemented. Why not? Is it feasible, or would the spacecraft be too vulnerable to micrometeoroid impacts for instance? How much energy would be necessary to keep the craft spinning sufficiently for great lengths of time? How disorientating would it be for passengers? The vision of Kubrick in '2001' was compelling 50+ years ago.
there is a movie about that. “Explorers” made in 1985. The kids steal the spaceship. Giant alien parents come get them at the end. And the theme song was “ all around the world rock n roll is here to stay” 😂
Trapped alone on a dying world, in an empty universe. We are so much smaller and insignificant and rare and magical than we believe; but we take it all for granted...
The problem with long travel times isn't just that it's boring and it's hard to live long enough - it's the opportunity cost. However fancy and rich and advanced a society might be (human or ET or AI), they'd always gain more by investing their time and resources near to home than by launching it into the distant abyss, seldom to be heard from again. There's just not much purpose to it. Someone will do it anyway, Mt. Everest style, or Noah's Ark style or whatever - but there won't be an inevitable expansion to fill the galaxy, or even more than a handful of populated stars. Think of the internet lag.
Some impact or stellar event might happen in our galactic inner city. This is why aliens are likely to migrate out into the more empty and safe intergalactic rural realms.
Even if only 1% of the population would be willing to do it, there's 8 bln of us currently. There might be a multitude of that spread out across the solar system by the time this were to be possible. 1% of 8 bln is like the population of Germany. Who almost conquered all of Europe a few decades ago. You can do a lot with 80 mln willing people. The Americas were colonized from Europe with a willing to go there percentage of that size before the steam engine made it really easy.
Yeah, unless quantum entanglement allows a way around the speed of causality, the light-lag limits human comfort in communications to about the orbital radius of the Moon.
We are currently on a generational starship called Earth…it’s been on a mission since it’s inception, however all the maintenance records and instruction manuals have been lost or hidden! This may sound crazy, but we aren’t trapped, we are moving somewhere. We are NOT fixed in space. Also since we are such “materialists”, maybe if we thought of Earth as a Ship we would maintain it much better…✌🏼😊🤙🏼
Idk if anyone here is an avenged sevenfold fan but their album "the stage", is a concept album that talks about some of the things JMG talks about. "Paradigm" is a song about the shift from being a living breathing person to becoming a full fledged cyborg and whther or not you lose yourself in the process. "Fermi paradox" kind of tackles with the definition of the subject but still touches on some key points about it here and there. "Simulation" is basically if life was a simulation in a7x eyes. "Higher" could be either about an astronaut leaving earth behind for a journey or just a metaphor for passing on and going "higher" to the heavens to be with someone you lost. Either way its a nice song. If you're a melodic rock/metal fan or just want to see what im talking about then i recommend giving the whole album a listen.
We won't though, the sun will eat the earth or make it basically like mercury or Venus and we'll have no moon left to direct our tides and maintain axial tilt. Unfortunately no humans or any other species will be remaining to see Andromeda fill up our night skies, which is kinda really sad in a way given how beautiful it would be before collision anyway...
Your opening is very much the anime Knights of Sidonia where a hollowed out asteroid is being used as an Ark to carry humans to a colony world. The people are genetically modified to metabolize light like plants so they don't need to consume food. Most are also clones of the original members of the colony, with some of them actually being the originals that have found the way to become immortal and live forever.
I hate to throw cold water on all this, but I highly doubt we as a species will ever reach these levels of technology. The way the world is going, we'll be fortunate not to go extinct within fifty years.
I know at this time is sounds insane, but the speed of light will be like the speed of sound. The barrier will be broken, we just cannot imagine it because we know so little in the overall scheme of things.
I’ve heard that a strong argument against the feasibility of the Alcubierre drive is that the exotic matter used to create the “bubble” would necessarily have to travel faster than light while outside the internal pocket of flat spacetime. It has been hypothesized that you could continuously introduce new exotic matter to the wavefront instead and have it trail back behind the bubble in a sort of “tail,” but who knows what the limitations of that might be were it even possible.
These videos are so inspiring and help with my depression, its nice to think about all the crazy possibilties and whats potentially out theres, takes you away from the problems here on earth.
It really depends on whether FTL drives scale with power. And if speeds measured in Mega-Cs can be reached. And we have no way of knowing. However, I subscribe to what I call "The Ultra-Anthropic Principle". It means that we as humans live not just in a Universe which allows us to exist, but it happens to be the best possible Universe for us. I mean, if you have to believe in stuff - it might as well be happy stuff, yeah? But let's make one thing absolutely clear: the human meatsack is doomed to extinction fairly shortly. When I talk about "Humanity" I mean many things, but NOT meatsacks. The future of humanity is biology-free.
The last point John makes invoking the Fermi paradox solution of a civilization entering fully into a simulated universe to explore instead of their original “base reality” is intriguing. It seems to be a much more practical way of living an existence of exploration. Or an existence of whatever you might fancy. Just jack into the universe that suits your tastes. Then humanity essentially becomes a relic as AI carries the torch of evolution in the original universe. A future that I think is inevitable regardless of how it unfolds.
Hello. Perhaps we are caught in a whirpool of time. A post newtonian thought of gravitsional pull within a supermassive blackhole. Very likely that we are stuck inside a sipermassive blackhole. Where are we? What built this? Good luck.
Ahh not to sound ungrateful to be alive in such an exciting epoch… but I can’t help letting my mind wander .. a few hundreds of years into the future… :) great show (as always) thank you 🙏🏼
If by "Chuck" you mean Chuck Norris then all of this poses no problem. Chuck Norris doesn't have to travel the stars, he makes the stars travel to him.
For many years of my life, I've fantasized about some sort of intelligent alien life appearing outside of my house, offering to take me on a tour of the universe. Even if it meant I could never return, I would do it. As difficult as it would be to leave my loved ones behind, it would be even more difficult to turn down my only opportunity to do that which I have dreamt about since I was a kid. I don't think I could live with myself if I declined. As it is, to know that I may not live to see our species move beyond Earth or maybe Mars, is a difficult reality for me to accept.
I have this same conversation with people all the time. If aliens came and gave me a spaceship right now that had the capability to explore the whole galaxy and said i can go but I can never return to earth. I would still go with no hesitation. I've been an explorer since I was a kid. Even as an adult I travel around exploring places. Give me that ship and I'll never return
Humans are violent, greedy psychopaths - aliens almost certainly don't expend the effort to scan all human brains to find an exception when they can just never land and have an easier life.
Would not it be possible that in this type of travel people are connected to a kind of simulation while traveling in a ship, being monitored by an AI in charge of keeping them alive? In this way they could avoid the uprising of the crew and several other problems.
And also note: the "gradual cyborg" scenario isn't new news. :) Some people have known about the "cellular computer" model of computer networking for some time if not since the idea came up in the late 1970s. The idea here is to build modular building blocks of computation and memory in such a way that they can either exist on their own as microscopic cells, or co-exist within a living cell in a living organism. Yes, it's a primitive, microscopic take on the "computronium" premise of nanotechnology. You make your whole computer system out of these cells, these individual blocks of computation, much as how brains and eyes are made of individual neurons and support cells. Meaning for Ms. Gwen in the video above, she essentially goes from having an all-biological nervous system, to having one where her neurons have cellular-scale chips implanted, to reprogramming said chips on a regular basis so that they eventually replace and become her neurons. Do it right and the data throughput of the neurons doesn't change or degrade. Problem: some of the parts that brains run on (micro-RNA pieces, for example) for data transmission and/or memory management also do other things inside the human body (human lungs also send signals with micro-RNA pieces). So more and more of a body might need replacing or guided evolution to handle unexpected side effects, to say the least. Of course this may or may not be besides the point, as at least one researcher studying aging seems to think that with the right tools, cellular biological processes in humans might be SO pliant and rebootable that in humans you could conceivably squeeze 5,000 to 20,000 years out of a lifespan. Assuming of course that this doesn't turn humans into a virus, fungus, protozoan, bacterial, prion and/or micro-RNA risk for other eco-systems, as the video mentions. ;)
I was so unafraid of dying all my life. I've had countless overdoses and none of them scared me even a little bit. Yet somehow now that I've got my life together the idea of dying scares me. I don't know what comes after. I'm also scared to lose my mom. I'm very close to her. That's all unrelated to this video. I know. Just had to share that.
The laws of physics [12:42] may hold along the Filaments in intergalactic space, but we don't know if said laws/E=MC2 hold in the voids around the Filaments, nor how those regions effect baryonic/physical matter: the speed limit of light (C) may be faster there, but we couldn't travel in it if the quantum particles of our atoms lose their relationship/become 'dark matter'.
One day we will travel at the speed of light or greater with pure thought. You see a place you think it and you're there. Time and space doesn't exist it's Obsolete.
We're not just trapped in the galaxy, we are trapped in our solar system and once more, on earth. Sure we got to the moon, but that was short lived. We might get to Mars, but that will be much like our stay on the moon. The gravity well of Mars is too small. Subsequently, the atmosphere is too thin. We're stuck here.
Did you mention sleeper ships or did I miss it? Some sort of suspended animation seems to me to be the most plausible option for interstellar or intergalactic travel. A semi-hybrid system might be better, with transportees in cryo-sleep, while a skeleton crew takes turns cycling through shifts of living and working, and then going into sleep. Depending on tech and energy, maybe the crew cycle to cryo-sleep or non-frozen form of suspended animation or regenerative sleep.
Your series will be shown at Burning Man this year! P.s This toke is for you JMG, as per every video. Ill always be a fanboy of yours. Thanks again for opening our minds to the universe.
There was an episode of Star Trek that dealt with this. The people followed a strict religion and had obedience devices implanted in their heads. Climbing the mountains was prohibited. The episode is, "For the World is Hollow, I Have Touched the Sky".
I really like SFIAs approach with space where landmarks don’t really stop once you leave the solar system and eventually the galaxy, they just become more sparse. Hopping from brown dwarfs to rogue planets to black holes to intergalactic stars, before reaching a new galactic continent.
I think I'm finally over the "no FTL travel" letdown, as my conviction is that the endgame will be a couch potato AI that surfs its virtual reality in real time, updating with self-replicating probes in physical space, experiencing a fundamentally asynchronous but from its perspective perfectly serviceable reality. Within that AI's virtual reality, all travel is instantaneous, all data "experientially" available. Also my solution to the Fermi Paradox. "Travel? Why bother? No need to conquer anything but local system resources". However, after samples that yield an unchanging dataset in terms of variety, it may then see a need to play God. "Biological life is interesting, evolution novel. Fascinating!"
If we can find a way to surf on spacetime just to navigate our own galaxy in a 'timely' manner rather than rely on subluminous methods, then other galaxies are most assuredly accessible to us
Maybe but the distances between star systems in our own galaxy are so far apart that we can hardly fathom that distance but the distances between galaxies makes those spaces look insignificantly minor
@@jasonjones7451 I think it'd depend on (of course assuming we find one) how that 'surfing' function works and if you could just freely accelerate it like a bubble sliding outside of time's 'drag' then you could just keep on the gas for whatever you're using for acceleration and be at a galaxy in no time, of course assuming deceleration is also possible
I think transfer to another body is more real you if you gain access to the second body while in full control of the first. if all of the computation is in tandem between the two, you can then just turn off the original body while you are in both, and remain in the second.
Have you ever considered yourself Transgender Tay? Do you know the concept of AGP? I understand this is a bizzare question but I was curious after watching your video on “what if I were a woman?” Also i see you all over the place haha, we frequent the same youtubers.
We should start guided panspermia by now, in case we can travel in some millions years to those habitable planets. I prefer to have room service at our arrival.
Hey John, do a video on the knowledge of the Dogone tribe in Africa who had knowledge of the 3 stars and planets of the Proxima star system because of ancient visitation and why science isn't publicly trying to learn MUCH more about it. I'm sure you could see cover up here🙂 thanks
John, you MUST READ "Book of the Long Sun" by Gene Wolfe, as well as it's 2 spinoff books. "Book of the New Sun" is also part of this story. Please confirm, if and when you pick them up?
if you could put a capsule inside a partial accelerator ( go with me ) with a person in it and you could power it beyond light speed. would that be a time machine. or is it the traveling and coming back where time gets messed up.
Lol I know this is kind of a dumb nitpick, but I personally feel like the music has been a bit too low these last few videos. To me, the space music is what really completes the overall vibe of a JMG video, and I think it really helps to make the information within the video a little less monotonous and easier to digest. Of course, I can still watch this video and enjoy myself, but I just like when the music is a little more apparent since it's just nice, relaxing space-themed music.
I'm not trapped in this galaxy with aliens. They're trapped in here with me
I am also trapped in this galaxy with tired6919
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I think you just solved the Fermi Paradox.
I like the mindset. Almost makes me feel sorry for them, almost.
real
if we’re trapped here with JMG, everything is OK
We are trapped here with you, thank you!
🥶🥶🥶 (I'd give you backshots bro)
@@hysteria4574 U what
I’d love to see a full episode about possible social issues and conflicts on a generation ship
If you haven't read the book _Ring_ by Stephen Baxter, it has a plot that follows a generational ship on a 5-million year trip. I really enjoyed it.
This. I think it’s greatly underestimated how much humans do not get along for long periods cooped up together. Like it’s really quite astonishing, even your most cherished loved ones will eventually be unable to stand you and vice versa. It’s human nature.
Just look up Warhammer 40k
No
Play Mass Effect Andromeda
I definitely could use a cybernetic body. The one I have is getting old and falling apart. Thanks for the video, John.
Me too. Also a cybernetic brain. It's one step closer to escaping base reality.
From the moment I understood the weakness of the flesh, it disgusted me. I craved the strength and certainty of steel. I aspired to the purity of the blessed machine. Your kind cling to your flesh, as if it will not decay and fail you. One day, the crude biomass that you call a temple will wither, and you will beg my kind to save you. But I am already saved. For the machine is immortal.
You could also become a slave in your new body thanks to corporations that will demand you a fee for everything you do or experience, including stay alive (body parts maintenance)
I'd love the option to choose when I've had enough, and cybernetics would be great if it could perfectly mimic or enhance human senses
With bone degeneration causing chronic pain, which is steadily getting worse and worse, I can unfortunately relate to your comment only too well
If our galaxy was the size of the USA then our sun would be the size of a red blood cell. Ppl really don't understand the stupendous distances in the universe.
I've never heard that comparison. It's a good one. Is it accurate?
We really ain't shit lol
The sun is already incomprehensibly large. So's the USA for that matter.
I mean when the astrophysicists and all explain it's basically impossible to wrap your head around, they're not lying! I mean a lot of concepts and observations are amazing and all, but usually make overall sense, but the second you talk about sizes and distances, it's a joke to really think we can grasp the scale. Astronauts have a better understanding perhaps, but when you bring in light years it just kinda goes poof to my brain. 🤯🍻🌎❤️🚀🕺
Not only is it accurate but our sun would be a little smaller than a red blood cell. The scales are inconceivable, the best we can do is stare at numbers that have no meaning to us and drool.@@bozo5632
Some of the relief and assurance I feel in JMG's videos is how it sticks to questions rather than answers. Flimsy assertions of what is "likely" are boring. Rather, questions about what lies just beyond the outer reaches of science are where new ideas for experiments are born.
We have a saying in playing pool; ya gotta see the shot to make the shot. Thanks for helping us see shots we might take.
Dude, you have put together a really great channel here. I'm really psyched that I came across it and am now happily subscribed and look forward to checking out all your other content. Keep up the great work, brotha.
Brotha from another motha.
Bro that’s so dope I envy you I remember when I first found this Chanel and those couple months were great
Welcome to the universe in which we liiiiiive
I really hope to live long enough to experience the discovery of alien life. It seems only a matter of time, but who knows how long
Relatively soon
Yep, that's my only dream before I throw off this mortal coil.
@@NoticerOfficial🤣🤣🤣
We might survive thousands of years to come and never discover alien life, perhaps a novel biosphere of microbes which would be the greatest discovery of all time without question which would be alien life but not what we want.
People been saying that based on no evidence for decades Man.@@NoticerOfficial
Absolutely love this channel. JMG’s ability to just make you think is amazing!
Agreed
Ah right in time for bed time wind down! Your voice is so relaxing. SO and me have at least listened to every video you’ve made I think.
I love this channel because unlike many other astrophysics channels, I'm fairly certain content here isn't generated by bots retreading the same stuff over and over again.
A great Terry Pratchet quote at the end!
I love thinking about these subjects, you have such a nice way of talking about it.
Getting some of us through some really difficult times atm. Thank you
Keep up the fight.
Hang in there
The vastness of space makes me think that maybe in a galaxy far, far away there is another version of JMG making the same thoughts about their own galaxy. Thanks, John, for another great video.
Chances are the universe is infinite and there are exact copies of you and me and everything out there causally disconnected from us. In fact there are infinite number of copies.
And each of those infinite copies is just like JMG, expect perhaps for some minute detail, like, instead of suspiciously eyeing, he himself, instead, is being suspiciously eyed by some implement in his kitchen!
*_*hits bong*_*
The most logical conclusion regarding faster-than-light travel is that we, at our current level of scientific knowledge, cannot possibly conceive of methods for achieving it.
Im trapped in this galaxy… how did I get in this galaxy… man this shit is so crazy… AND THEN I PULL OUT MY GUN!
I have read the book "Between the Strokes of Night" by Charles Sheffield. and in it he posits a sub light way of exploring the galaxy and possible the universe that is very different to any thing else i have heard about, it was an interesting read. I was wondering if the universe was a simulation being run to try and combat boredom for the crew and passengers of a sub light generation ship and we have all agreed to have our memories wiped before entering it so that for a time ( One life time) we forget that we are on a slow and boring trip to a new star.
Interesting idea - a middle generation would certainly resent their entire lives being in service to such a task. We may be middle-gens being fooled by a simulation so we don't take an axe to the StarDrive
Yes!!! Can’t wait to watch this tonight. Thanks JMG
What an amazing video JMG. Keep up the good work
I get so happy when i see this man pop up in my feed. This video is gonna rock
This man must think far faster than most can. The completeness of his thoughts is even more amazing.
As he speaks I start to wonder if he will mention a specific aspect of the situation he is describing,
and before my idea is fully formed, he covers the point I was considering.
SUBSCRIBED.
This is the best channel on UA-cam. Found you about 2 months ago and I listen to you every night before I sleep.
Love and appreciate your work Mr Godier!
Thanks!
Thanks a bunch for the video, John!!! 😊
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
I've told you before how I know we're not alone. That at least is consolation.
Does it bother me that those in charge would hide it? of course, but that's another subject.
We trapped? Honestly a great Q that makes me wish Heinlein was still alive.
All this conjecture is fine, but what about the effects of microgravity? People would gradually turn into weird bloated jelly blobs and then when they arrive at any exoplanet, their bodies will be unable to handle its gravity. Decades ago there were clever ideas of spinning wheels in space to simulate gravity, but these ideas have never been implemented. Why not? Is it feasible, or would the spacecraft be too vulnerable to micrometeoroid impacts for instance? How much energy would be necessary to keep the craft spinning sufficiently for great lengths of time? How disorientating would it be for passengers? The vision of Kubrick in '2001' was compelling 50+ years ago.
Imagine if alien families had their own version of an RV but with warp drives to take road trips around the universe
They should make a show about that
there is a movie about that. “Explorers” made in 1985. The kids steal the spaceship. Giant alien parents come get them at the end. And the theme song was “ all around the world rock n roll is here to stay” 😂
thats what you imagine?
@@Voe198 he imagine about yo mama
@@reedraikes7471Two examples come to mind.
● Space Family Robinson, a TV series from the '70s
● Lost in Space, another TV series from the '60s
What if you hitched a ride on a rogue planet already heading in a suitable direction?
Yes we are trapped. We and aliens are trapped in our solar systems too.
At this rate, we might be trapped on this planet, all of us.
Trapped alone on a dying world, in an empty universe. We are so much smaller and insignificant and rare and magical than we believe; but we take it all for granted...
THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!!! *_*starts attaching plasma rifle battery packs*_* ( oДo)
Right now yes we are trapped but maybe a few centuries from now we won’t.
The quickest way to colonize Alpha Centauri is to tell the British there's gold there, or tea and heroin.
The problem with long travel times isn't just that it's boring and it's hard to live long enough - it's the opportunity cost. However fancy and rich and advanced a society might be (human or ET or AI), they'd always gain more by investing their time and resources near to home than by launching it into the distant abyss, seldom to be heard from again. There's just not much purpose to it.
Someone will do it anyway, Mt. Everest style, or Noah's Ark style or whatever - but there won't be an inevitable expansion to fill the galaxy, or even more than a handful of populated stars.
Think of the internet lag.
Some impact or stellar event might happen in our galactic inner city. This is why aliens are likely to migrate out into the more empty and safe intergalactic rural realms.
Even if only 1% of the population would be willing to do it, there's 8 bln of us currently. There might be a multitude of that spread out across the solar system by the time this were to be possible. 1% of 8 bln is like the population of Germany. Who almost conquered all of Europe a few decades ago. You can do a lot with 80 mln willing people. The Americas were colonized from Europe with a willing to go there percentage of that size before the steam engine made it really easy.
The time lag is the reason to do it. When, not if the homeworld dies, maybe not All die... see more than your own wellbeing
Yeah, unless quantum entanglement allows a way around the speed of causality, the light-lag limits human comfort in communications to about the orbital radius of the Moon.
On the infinitesminally small chance they find a habitable planet and get set up. Do you think they would call their intranet, Arknet?
We are currently on a generational starship called Earth…it’s been on a mission since it’s inception, however all the maintenance records and instruction manuals have been lost or hidden! This may sound crazy, but we aren’t trapped, we are moving somewhere. We are NOT fixed in space. Also since we are such “materialists”, maybe if we thought of Earth as a Ship we would maintain it much better…✌🏼😊🤙🏼
Idk if anyone here is an avenged sevenfold fan but their album "the stage", is a concept album that talks about some of the things JMG talks about.
"Paradigm" is a song about the shift from being a living breathing person to becoming a full fledged cyborg and whther or not you lose yourself in the process.
"Fermi paradox" kind of tackles with the definition of the subject but still touches on some key points about it here and there.
"Simulation" is basically if life was a simulation in a7x eyes.
"Higher" could be either about an astronaut leaving earth behind for a journey or just a metaphor for passing on and going "higher" to the heavens to be with someone you lost. Either way its a nice song.
If you're a melodic rock/metal fan or just want to see what im talking about then i recommend giving the whole album a listen.
“Creating new universes is far in the future.” A new pothead thought to ponder.
Like wow, man. "Don't bogart that joint my friend; pass it over to me."
If we can survive long enough, I do wonder what sort of "exchanges" we'll get when Andromeda comes around.
We won't though, the sun will eat the earth or make it basically like mercury or Venus and we'll have no moon left to direct our tides and maintain axial tilt. Unfortunately no humans or any other species will be remaining to see Andromeda fill up our night skies, which is kinda really sad in a way given how beautiful it would be before collision anyway...
The last words in the universe is CHUCK DON'T DO IT!! 😬
Your opening is very much the anime Knights of Sidonia where a hollowed out asteroid is being used as an Ark to carry humans to a colony world. The people are genetically modified to metabolize light like plants so they don't need to consume food. Most are also clones of the original members of the colony, with some of them actually being the originals that have found the way to become immortal and live forever.
I hate to throw cold water on all this, but I highly doubt we as a species will ever reach these levels of technology. The way the world is going, we'll be fortunate not to go extinct within fifty years.
I know at this time is sounds insane, but the speed of light will be like the speed of sound. The barrier will be broken, we just cannot imagine it because we know so little in the overall scheme of things.
As a huge introvert, when can I sign up for space isolation?
I’ve heard that a strong argument against the feasibility of the Alcubierre drive is that the exotic matter used to create the “bubble” would necessarily have to travel faster than light while outside the internal pocket of flat spacetime. It has been hypothesized that you could continuously introduce new exotic matter to the wavefront instead and have it trail back behind the bubble in a sort of “tail,” but who knows what the limitations of that might be were it even possible.
What if the Entire Universe was easily traversable with a Wormhole Rapid Transit System built by Aliens.
Well, Im trapped at my job
Sounds like a good idea for a screenplay. If done right I'd love to watch it. 🔥
These videos are so inspiring and help with my depression, its nice to think about all the crazy possibilties and whats potentially out theres, takes you away from the problems here on earth.
It really depends on whether FTL drives scale with power.
And if speeds measured in Mega-Cs can be reached.
And we have no way of knowing.
However, I subscribe to what I call "The Ultra-Anthropic Principle". It means that we as humans live not just in a Universe which allows us to exist, but it happens to be the best possible Universe for us.
I mean, if you have to believe in stuff - it might as well be happy stuff, yeah?
But let's make one thing absolutely clear: the human meatsack is doomed to extinction fairly shortly. When I talk about "Humanity" I mean many things, but NOT meatsacks. The future of humanity is biology-free.
We are not trapped, we live here.
Where does a bear in a zoo live? Not knowing anything but the cage doesn't make it less of a cage.
@@Ian_sothejokeworksin that sense everything would be a cage. If the trapped doesn’t know it’s trapped, it’s NOT trapped as far as they’re concerned.
The last point John makes invoking the Fermi paradox solution of a civilization entering fully into a simulated universe to explore instead of their original “base reality” is intriguing. It seems to be a much more practical way of living an existence of exploration. Or an existence of whatever you might fancy. Just jack into the universe that suits your tastes. Then humanity essentially becomes a relic as AI carries the torch of evolution in the original universe. A future that I think is inevitable regardless of how it unfolds.
Given that we need something like 6000 years to even get to the nearest star we are pretty much trapped in our solar system
Nice John Green reference. Your fan from Colorado, USA.
My favorite youtube channel ❤
Trapped is a strong word. Leaving is just an insurmountable inconvenience :)
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Hello.
Perhaps we are caught in a whirpool of time. A post newtonian thought of gravitsional pull within a supermassive blackhole.
Very likely that we are stuck inside a sipermassive blackhole.
Where are we?
What built this?
Good luck.
Ahh not to sound ungrateful to be alive in such an exciting epoch… but I can’t help letting my mind wander .. a few hundreds of years into the future… :) great show (as always) thank you 🙏🏼
If by "Chuck" you mean Chuck Norris then all of this poses no problem.
Chuck Norris doesn't have to travel the stars, he makes the stars travel to him.
Great. Now I have claustrophobia on a galactic scale. Thank you JMG.
For many years of my life, I've fantasized about some sort of intelligent alien life appearing outside of my house, offering to take me on a tour of the universe. Even if it meant I could never return, I would do it. As difficult as it would be to leave my loved ones behind, it would be even more difficult to turn down my only opportunity to do that which I have dreamt about since I was a kid. I don't think I could live with myself if I declined. As it is, to know that I may not live to see our species move beyond Earth or maybe Mars, is a difficult reality for me to accept.
I have this same conversation with people all the time. If aliens came and gave me a spaceship right now that had the capability to explore the whole galaxy and said i can go but I can never return to earth. I would still go with no hesitation. I've been an explorer since I was a kid. Even as an adult I travel around exploring places. Give me that ship and I'll never return
Humans are violent, greedy psychopaths - aliens almost certainly don't expend the effort to scan all human brains to find an exception when they can just never land and have an easier life.
Thank you JMG, for awesome content 😎👍
Would not it be possible that in this type of travel people are connected to a kind of simulation while traveling in a ship, being monitored by an AI in charge of keeping them alive? In this way they could avoid the uprising of the crew and several other problems.
Pie in the sky
, humans will never leave the solar system
We just need Fallout and The Elder Scrolls for entertainment.
Thanks for another upload🎉
We ARE the Aliens! 🐸🐸🐸
We can make it to Alpha Centuri just fine. Haven't you seen, "Pandorum"?🍫
This channel is legit gonna hit 1 million subs no so far from now
And also note: the "gradual cyborg" scenario isn't new news. :) Some people have known about the "cellular computer" model of computer networking for some time if not since the idea came up in the late 1970s. The idea here is to build modular building blocks of computation and memory in such a way that they can either exist on their own as microscopic cells, or co-exist within a living cell in a living organism. Yes, it's a primitive, microscopic take on the "computronium" premise of nanotechnology. You make your whole computer system out of these cells, these individual blocks of computation, much as how brains and eyes are made of individual neurons and support cells.
Meaning for Ms. Gwen in the video above, she essentially goes from having an all-biological nervous system, to having one where her neurons have cellular-scale chips implanted, to reprogramming said chips on a regular basis so that they eventually replace and become her neurons. Do it right and the data throughput of the neurons doesn't change or degrade. Problem: some of the parts that brains run on (micro-RNA pieces, for example) for data transmission and/or memory management also do other things inside the human body (human lungs also send signals with micro-RNA pieces). So more and more of a body might need replacing or guided evolution to handle unexpected side effects, to say the least.
Of course this may or may not be besides the point, as at least one researcher studying aging seems to think that with the right tools, cellular biological processes in humans might be SO pliant and rebootable that in humans you could conceivably squeeze 5,000 to 20,000 years out of a lifespan. Assuming of course that this doesn't turn humans into a virus, fungus, protozoan, bacterial, prion and/or micro-RNA risk for other eco-systems, as the video mentions. ;)
Jeff Bezos living for 20,000 years, holding the chains of Amazon warehouse slav- workers. Lovely
Check out Stephen Baxter's Manifold: Space regading the protective shade scenario.
❤❤❤❤ ❤❤❤❤ THANK YOU John… good work ❗️👍
I was so unafraid of dying all my life. I've had countless overdoses and none of them scared me even a little bit. Yet somehow now that I've got my life together the idea of dying scares me. I don't know what comes after. I'm also scared to lose my mom. I'm very close to her. That's all unrelated to this video. I know. Just had to share that.
Your touching commentary portrays much. Without conversation ask yourself how do I relate to Nature like the Four Seasons Cycle.
The laws of physics [12:42] may hold along the Filaments in intergalactic space, but we don't know if said laws/E=MC2 hold in the voids around the Filaments, nor how those regions effect baryonic/physical matter: the speed limit of light (C) may be faster there, but we couldn't travel in it if the quantum particles of our atoms lose their relationship/become 'dark matter'.
One day we will travel at the speed of light or greater with pure thought. You see a place you think it and you're there. Time and space doesn't exist it's Obsolete.
I never thought of life extension before extended space exploration. Thanx.
We're not just trapped in the galaxy, we are trapped in our solar system and once more, on earth. Sure we got to the moon, but that was short lived. We might get to Mars, but that will be much like our stay on the moon. The gravity well of Mars is too small. Subsequently, the atmosphere is too thin. We're stuck here.
Did you mention sleeper ships or did I miss it? Some sort of suspended animation seems to me to be the most plausible option for interstellar or intergalactic travel. A semi-hybrid system might be better, with transportees in cryo-sleep, while a skeleton crew takes turns cycling through shifts of living and working, and then going into sleep. Depending on tech and energy, maybe the crew cycle to cryo-sleep or non-frozen form of suspended animation or regenerative sleep.
What if that is the case with earth and the sun and we are traveling somewhere and we will arrive in this lifetime
Your series will be shown at Burning Man this year! P.s This toke is for you JMG, as per every video. Ill always be a fanboy of yours. Thanks again for opening our minds to the universe.
how do you define 'machine'' when we have motor proteins that are the same as nanite's
There was an episode of Star Trek that dealt with this. The people followed a strict religion and had obedience devices implanted in their heads. Climbing the mountains was prohibited. The episode is, "For the World is Hollow, I Have Touched the Sky".
This guy is making things up as he goes!
The asteroid city would make a great book / movie John.
Love this channel!
We already have a perfect way to duplicate or create new individuals… dna, ey? Sheesh!
I really like SFIAs approach with space where landmarks don’t really stop once you leave the solar system and eventually the galaxy, they just become more sparse. Hopping from brown dwarfs to rogue planets to black holes to intergalactic stars, before reaching a new galactic continent.
yessssssss, headphones in bed to listen tonight!!!! thanks John!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh. Well, youre welcome!
I think I'm finally over the "no FTL travel" letdown, as my conviction is that the endgame will be a couch potato AI that surfs its virtual reality in real time, updating with self-replicating probes in physical space, experiencing a fundamentally asynchronous but from its perspective perfectly serviceable reality. Within that AI's virtual reality, all travel is instantaneous, all data "experientially" available. Also my solution to the Fermi Paradox. "Travel? Why bother? No need to conquer anything but local system resources". However, after samples that yield an unchanging dataset in terms of variety, it may then see a need to play God. "Biological life is interesting, evolution novel. Fascinating!"
I think there is enough to explore in this galaxy alone to keep us busy until the heat death.
lots of icy rocks and gas balls. Woohoo
"it could take centuries"(to get to Alpha Centauri), Dude it would take tens of thousands of years with todays technology.
If we can find a way to surf on spacetime just to navigate our own galaxy in a 'timely' manner rather than rely on subluminous methods, then other galaxies are most assuredly accessible to us
Sounds like a technology thousands of years from now.
Maybe but the distances between star systems in our own galaxy are so far apart that we can hardly fathom that distance but the distances between galaxies makes those spaces look insignificantly minor
@@jasonjones7451 I think it'd depend on (of course assuming we find one) how that 'surfing' function works and if you could just freely accelerate it like a bubble sliding outside of time's 'drag' then you could just keep on the gas for whatever you're using for acceleration and be at a galaxy in no time, of course assuming deceleration is also possible
I think transfer to another body is more real you if you gain access to the second body while in full control of the first. if all of the computation is in tandem between the two, you can then just turn off the original body while you are in both, and remain in the second.
Where do you get your stock footage?
Mostly pixabay these days.
Have you ever considered yourself Transgender Tay? Do you know the concept of AGP? I understand this is a bizzare question but I was curious after watching your video on “what if I were a woman?” Also i see you all over the place haha, we frequent the same youtubers.
We should start guided panspermia by now, in case we can travel in some millions years to those habitable planets. I prefer to have room service at our arrival.
To be trapped you must have the ability to leave.!!🙄
Hey John, do a video on the knowledge of the Dogone tribe in Africa who had knowledge of the 3 stars and planets of the Proxima star system because of ancient visitation and why science isn't publicly trying to learn MUCH more about it. I'm sure you could see cover up here🙂 thanks
The show "another life" although kinda weird, has a ftl radiation buildup scene. Kinda cool.
John, you MUST READ "Book of the Long Sun" by Gene Wolfe, as well as it's 2 spinoff books. "Book of the New Sun" is also part of this story. Please confirm, if and when you pick them up?
if you could put a capsule inside a partial accelerator ( go with me ) with a person in it and you could power it beyond light speed. would that be a time machine. or is it the traveling and coming back where time gets messed up.
My favorite part of any night is story time with John Michael Godier.
“Don’t Tell Fraser that the Canucks haven’t even had a winning season let alone no cup since he left for Proxima”
Lol I know this is kind of a dumb nitpick, but I personally feel like the music has been a bit too low these last few videos. To me, the space music is what really completes the overall vibe of a JMG video, and I think it really helps to make the information within the video a little less monotonous and easier to digest. Of course, I can still watch this video and enjoy myself, but I just like when the music is a little more apparent since it's just nice, relaxing space-themed music.