This lady knew “Charles” was considered a zombie and he ended up dead! So as soon as Lori called JJ a zombie, she should have known his life was in danger. Period.
Walking around the track with your friend and her married boyfriend actively having an affair in front of her.... being told that the mans wife was going to die in a car wreck... just wow!
@@ChrisPBacon-yz6nk i came back here to rewatch this polished interview. Have you seen the recently released video of her being questioned by the Chandler police? She's completely deranged. A liar and had absolutely no shame. She could have been a voice to protect the kids. She's discpicable!
Agreed and Its tragic that the police did not do more to protect him after all of his attempts. Lori seemed determined to kill him and no one did anything about it...NO ONE! I can only assume that the police department was corrupt with members of the group, church, family, Alex's Bros, etc.
Yes. Domestic violence equals violence just the same. Period. Unfortunately the legal system still does not equate the two. But in my book it’s state sanctioned violence, as it’s allowed to go on within a family at a much higher degree.
I wonder how much they really could have done though. At that point Lori still had the support of many people in her own family. They needed to do some type of emergency intervention for the sake of the kids. They did not take Charles seriously enough. They needed to put pressure on her within her own support system. I doubt anything else would have worked.. If the kids are alive I guarantee that Tylee has been brainwashed. Poor Charles was setup and I feel he trusted the wrong people. Lori was at the top of that list.
Yes I mean .... they call themselves "Christians" and she is talking about "zombies...life insurance...kid's checks....adultery...." Gosh... these people sometimes at least need to read the Bible!!!
He doesn't need "kudos". He did a professional interview, period. An interviewer is not to assume anything. He was informed and knowledgeable. The interviewee did an excellent job too - she is honest, and did not seem to be trying to conceal things.
I am sorry but this guy did not ask any “probing” questions. And she never gave any really good or detailed answers to the questions. She was smiling through this interview - focused more on her 15 minutes of fame. It is obvious from the get go this had absolutely nothing to do with religious beliefs. This was a man and woman who wanted to be together and who had decided they would kill anybody in their way in order to be together.
If a "friend" called me and wanted me to tell police their child was with me, I'd immediately call police and let them know the child was not with me. She failed those children.
@@jessielearned it designed pretty well. They can see who will blindly follow and believe what they're told even if it doesn't make sense. If they see that you question things then they keep an eye on you.
For the sake of courts in the USA she really cant say that. No one was convicted and Chad is a free man indorsed by Mormons! This is too deep for Melanie to be real. She deserves an Oscar!
It gets to me when she says “That it led to people passing away” like if they did from natural causes or circumstances. No, lady it led to innocent people getting murder.
@@SumitBohra487 she has been brainwashed .... and very thoroughly !!! Chad and Lorri needed stupid and obedient servants to complete their plans ... !!! However, it does not mean that she should not be charged for concealing very serious circumstances .... !!! She'd better know that God is NOT on her side !!!
Yep she's still not facing this honestly. You kind of want the interviewer to ask of a sudden start rubbing her face in the reality of it. Like "lady don't you realize those kids are f-ing dead and you were at least somewhat complicit in that?"
Well, this interview was taped prior to the kids being found dead. I’m not sure she knew at this point. People want to blame her, but she’s the one who originally went to the police to break this case wide open. If she did know, she prolly went to the police and this interview was a head fake so she didn’t get killed!
There is good and bad in everyone. We must desire to do good. Goodness is one of God's spirit. God's word say He will give us over to the desires of our heart, whether good or bad, because of your free will to choose between the two. God honors our free will. God do not force anyone to do his will. Bible says, "It is God's will that we come to an accurate knowledge of truth". It is up to us to desire this accurate knowledge of truth. Jesus said, "Seek first the kingdom and God's righteousness......". God's standards of right and wrong; good or bad. NOT our own standards of what is right and wrong; good or bad. God's true worshippers seek God Righteousness. Jesus obeys His Fathers words and we should too. God said, "Listen to my son". We listen to Jesus and Jesus listens to his Father, than we can say our worship is in 'spirit and truth'. True Christians will speak the truth and manifest the 9 fruits of the spirit, "Love, Joy, Peace, Faith, Patience, Goodness, Kindness, Mildness,, Self-Control", against such things there is no law". It is what is in your heart; the seat of motivation which God knows. Desire in your heart to do God's will. Changes need to take place in your life, because, God's word said, "The one who does the will of God remains forever". Simple truth.
I agree, the use of the word "love" sounds off somehow. But I think that within their little cult there was a lot of expression of love amongst those who were "the chosen ones."
@Nature Witch there are plenty of cases of sane people having visions that have been verified. I started having intrusive thoughts (but more like a snapshot of a picture or 2 second video) about buildings falling about a month before 9/11. I told my boss, who was a psych nurse), my therapist (who i saw for ptsd childhood stuff), and my husband about it. I even changed departments at work to work in the emergency services department bc i knew "something" was going to happen. When I walked into work that morning and saw the buildings falling I knew that's what it was. It was by no means specific or could be used to pinpoint anything coming, but it was verified by 3 people and my therapist showed me where it was written in my chart. I've had other, less dramatic experiences, but I'm in no way in cloud cookoo,.
She keeps asking if it makes sense. Hun, you should’ve been asking yourself that question when you were friends with them. It’s quite clear to the average sane person that NONE OF THIS MAKES SENSE.
She doesn’t mean “does that make sense “ like do you believe the crazy shit. It’s more like is what I’m explaining to you make sense like do you understand what I’m trying to convey. Obviously she doesn’t believe this shit. You don’t know what this woman has been through. She watched her best friend be indoctrinated into a cult and kill her whole family.
@@rationallyruby Her friend Lori killed her first husband long before she met Chad and long before she was in the cult. Like 13 years before they were friends!
@@rationallyruby You got that right, she WATCHED her friend kill her whole family! She knew information that could have possibly saved lives had she spoke up sooner! In my opinion I believe she wouldn't have spoke up at all if it wasn't for saving her own ass only!
Now Chad’s children never became zombies, and hers were, how convenient! Lori has lost husband and possibly two kids and now seats in jail, while Chad walks free with all five children!!! In the Christian faith, you MUST have your own mind.
These two just didn't want to work wanted the good life with no kids they are selfish to say the least she could have given up custody of JJ and let Charles raise him. Chad is disgusting with his ideas and has serious mental issues if this story has been in police documentation since December why is Chad walking free?
When a mom tells you their child is now a zombie you need to get law enforcement involved. This lady watched it all unfold. Yeah I would get a lawyer Melanie
@@ejwis1 So she said. Kind of a lengthy very detailed interview almost like an interrogation. I wonder if the police encouraged it to find inconsistencies in her story...
@@ejwis1 Good point. Time frame needed. Did Melanie AND Lori believe JJ was alive ... or just Melanie? (Excellent point - we don't know; quite yet. Time will hopefully tell. Kay & Larry seemed to believe Chad was the threat to JJ - but, that Lori needed to listen to them and tell them where JJ was; they too believed JJ was alive and that Lori was being stubborn and or obeying Chad's instructions.) But, strangely why no mention about Tylee? (Most especially, when Tylee perhaps went 'missing' much sooner.) Colby was wanting to hear from Tylee just as bad as Kay & Larry wanted to hear from JJ. Was Melanie in communication with Larry & Kay; but not Colby? (Maybe) Otherwise, her statement raises Red Flags. Time frame dependant. In regards to Tylee what did Melanie G. know or at least believe - when only concerned about Lori giving JJ to Kay. *Or, possibly Melanie G was just convinced at the time that Chad (and Lori's) issues were related to custody because that's what she was "told". Thus, biologically Melanie G. understood Tylee had no connections to Kay & Larry. ONLY JJ DID. (Possible.) Worse case scenario Melanie G. only saw a way to save one child (amongst all of Chad's Zombie beliefs - made up rules). Melanie could argue JJ was NOT biologically related to Lori. Thus, Lori and or Chad did NOT have to comply with Zombie rules ... not their offspring. (If she's desperate to think up a reason - any reason.) *Or, was Melanie G. only afraid for the cult and or those involved in Tylee's alleged kidnapping? Was killing JJ just too risky? Too much attention in the cult. *And, thus would simply be "best" if Lori surrendered JJ to Kay & Larry ... even if no way for Melanie (or anyone) to save Tylee; either because too late or blood relationship. Chad (someone) is ...sick. This just screams that Chad could not handle worldly kids. BUT, refused to let Kay & Larry have JJ (and Colby have Tylee or Tylee & JJ). Someone was brainwashed to the point of no return (mentally ill and beyond) or Chad has more evil in his heart than we all imagined. Who looked nervous in Hawaii? CHAD Who (possibly) appeared clueless? (An unworried mom.)
100%. She really needs to do some soil searching when people talk about spouses dying??? And u don’t do shit?? She better pray a ton I think she knew they were killing people
That had to be a God thing because everything else went south. But I do wonder if she killed JJ because she didn’t get the money because she wanted to hurt Kay...I don’t know
@@WhiteNoiseOpEdCommentary That's exactly what I was thinking too! She's that evil! This one here, MG talked to save her own ass only! She's so fake in my opinion!
She watches Lori look at her own son and say "I think he's a zombie", then look at him herself and actually contemplate it? He's a child! She's just as brainwashed by Chad as Lori. And she knew what they did to Charles.
I don't like her at all I don't trust her I think that she knows more than what does she lied to the police and told them that she did have JJ at one point I think that she's just as horrible as Lori and Chad. That's my opinion
Melanie seems like a nice lady but she also seems to be obsessed with Lori Vallow. She seems to be the type of gullible person that Lori and Chad could manipulate easily. I can't believe that after all Lori has done ...... Melanie is sitting there thinking we should feel sorry for her because she is in jail and not able to be with Chad ...... give me a break!! ...... child murderers belong in jail.
Kelly McCain...you absolutely took the words out of my mouth...smh. In the end, no one is supposed to be sorry about evil, wicked stuff! The moment Lori wanted to be with him, a married man, and she was married herself to another man?? And they call themselves knowing the Lord?? with all that weird Visions stuff?? Wise counsel should have kicked in from Melanie, that's if she was a true believer in Christ. I feel sorry for Melanie because she became convinced of the nonsense which was unbiblical and evil right off the bat. You cannot feel sorry for intentional satanic mess.
“Does that make sense?” No, Melanie. None of this crap makes any sense, and shame on you for going along with this craziness. I applaud this journalist for being able to keep his cool with you. If you had spoken up, four people would be alive. Don’t ever forget that.
Hold up..."she knew Tammy was going to pass away before she got up there" - what in the actual hell, lady, you don't need a lawyer, you need several because you definitely had substantial knowledge of premeditated murder. You all are lunatics! May all the deceased R.I.P. - may justice be served swiftly.
They were "predicting" weird shit all the time and didn't happen. You can't call the police bc someone's talking nonsense! Charles even DID try, what happened? Nothing. You cannot expect that you are accountable someone else's actions. Chad and Lori used her bc she was a good friend, threw her under the bus, and since she's a witness she would've "passed away" if she hadn't gone to the police then.
For 3 yrs Chad was telling people Tammy was going to die at a young age..Chad told Julie that his mission couldn't get done until Tammy dies..so a lot of people knew this, not just Melani G..
@@yourinnerlawyer4035 Excuse me, she is an admitted liar, and adulter. She has some very iffy friends. Her visionary should have warned her of the company she keeps. I think she was hoping for a piece of the Insurance Pie. But they didn't die. Don't drink the kool-aid !
From a person (me) who has never heard the story of these 2 children, I just wanted to say that the gentlemen who is interviewing is doing such a wonderful job! He is not leading and also very interesting to listen to. His questions are valid and really filling me in on these horrific events. This is a sad, sad story. Edit: Nate, I just heard your name. You are a excellent interviewer. I apologize, I don’t know what the correct term is, but yes, a tragic, tragic story.
Listen I was mormon for over 35 years and I know that mormon doctrine has some batshit crazy stuff. THis lady like a lot of mormons get off on this stuff and they do because it makes them feel special like, I know something that you dont and Boy am I better than you cause I am special by knowing this.
@Harrison Ford will kill someone with his plane yep, I was told they have to physically do something. They said it to me. I was like sooo, he has to kill me before anything is done?? Basically yeah.
After listening to the phone call that has recently surfaced between melanie gibb and a friend, where she's calling jj a drug baby and "not loris real son" while knowing he was dead is so disgusting. This woman is SO deceptive!
What’s crazy is sometimes it seems like Melanie has come to her senses, and other times it seems like she is still struggling with her beliefs. In one part she implied that Chad’s gift had been manipulated by Satan or something. Like she still kind of believes he had/has revelatory power, but Satan manipulated it??
I think she struggles with knowing who her best friend was before Chad vs after... Look at Lori’s niece though. Gibb is the ONLY one close to get even willing to speak out.
Agreed about that laugh, smiles, lack of remorse, and odd behaviors when she relays about learning about the murders. I think David was the one who talked sense into Melanie.
Shes a calm woman of few words but a lot of feelings inside. Don't judge her cuz she has different personality than yours and expresses herself differently than you. That's how she felt in that moment also; without all the info. she now knows.
@@marialavelle1393 I'm not judging her. I am making a statement. The only judgement I have is that she must have a lot of courage to, not only tell the authorities the truth when she thought it may be putting her own life at risk, but then coming on national television to let everyone know. I cannot imagine what that would be like. She is holding back though, most everyone can see that.
Thank God he did!! Poor guy, I couldn't imagine going through that nightmare then being murdered after nobody believed him... So freaking devastating. RIP Charles
Carly Rae right!! And the body cam footage of the police at his home on the evening he came back from Houston is horrible! They never took him seriously, and now all these innocent people are gone..
david Bouras Actually she LOCKED him out by changing the password. But he caught it and then switched the beneficiary to Kay. I wonder if Lori had known she wouldn’t get the insurance, if she still would have had him killed?
@@EH-xy5uv it burns me up that Chad is still walking free ! Guilty as you know what ! The only zombies are Lorie and Chad ! Murdering, psychopath, demonic , from the sewers of hell ! And this goes for Melanie and anyone else that knows the truth and spews lies !
@@barbiekyzar5192 they are so messed up psychologically, mentally. whatever their brain is musch and not capable of understanding the difference between reality and fantasy
It is utterly Dreadful that video of Charles and the Cops is so sad. The one shinning star, or hope is that if there is a heaven the kids and Charles are together. Very sad. :(
Charles got an order to do a mental evaluation! Police did zero, after she told him she’d kill him, Charles died children were in danger, Cox was a killer! Perhaps a hired killer! Sad! Then he died!
Just rewatching this for the millionth time and I can't believe I've not picked this up before. The whole mission was focused on ridding the world of Zombies before tribulations. That's what Melanie said, she knew Tylee disappeared and Lori had called her a zombie, she knew Charles was murdered for being a zombie. So why did Melanie believe (based on the discussion JJ was a zombie and had to go) that Lori was going to send him to Kay whom she also believed to be a zombie??? Considering all had to be destroyed, I find it highly unlikely. Melanie puts herself on the outside, but this group would not have had her in their inner circle had she not believed what they were saying
And his dog sister was gone poor JJ'S life must have been a living nightmare without all that he had lost in a short amount of time I feel so sad now that the truth is out now the kids are dead
Her sadness for this entire ordeal really only shows in the moment that she's talking about when Chad called her and told her not to answer the phone when the police call. She was more upset through this entire interview that her friends betrayed her and put her in that position than the fact that any of this happened to begin with. Lock her up she knew what was going on, she only turned on them because they turned on her first.
I think this poor lady has been throughout a lot and like any cult member coming out, we shouldn’t judge her. To me it sounds like her herself is coming to her own realization slowly of how crazy everything is and what crazy teachings she was taught. And Nate is a great interviewer asking the right questions to help her speak from her experience. And she’s very brave to speak out against her “friends”
@@AndrealovesGod when your closest friends are liars and having an affair, it doesn't say a lot about your character. I don't know anyone who trusts anyone who says they have "visions". That is always of Satan. That's biblical. The whole Mormon cult was based on the very things that Lori and Chad Daybell are speaking about. Having "visions". Adultery. The only thing missing is Daybell confessing he had sex with her daughter.
I cried so hard at the end of this. My hope vanished like smoke on a windy day. They're dead, oh no....I hope they died 'peacefully in their sleep, of natural causes', like Tammy. :-( But where are they? Did the gravedigger put them somewhere? His cemetery?
@@Wistful77 how could it be peaceful knowing that your own mother is killing you? what a nightmare for them both. Not everyone believes in psychics but I do. And the story they tell is horific
I believe he knew Tylee was onto his BS and he couldn't sway her so she had to go before Lori started seeing him for what he was through her daughter's eyes. I also believe he didn't want to deal with a special needs child so again, Lori's son JJ had to go.....he didn't want him cramping his style. It's all very strange and sad to think a mother could dispose of her own children all because of a dude who looks like a character straight out of a Beavis n Butthead episode. Smh.
@@watchgoose Not in reference to what has happened here. In normal cases, yes it is a polite way to say someone has died. But, in discussing the methodical, premeditated ways these victims have died, it's very clear it's murder.
She is smoothing things out......makes her feel better about it. I see a silent accomplice who knew but who looked the other way until it got public. Now she is saving her image, again, with her gentleness and her belief in the scriptures. Not really impressing to me. She should have come to the police, much sooner. Maybe they could have had them under investigation. She did nothing.
She isn’t very bright IMHO..... this is a big case. She is running the risk of compromising the trial.... All this shit talk could make things easier for them in the long run, because they’ll say she has influenced the public... not a smart move. The fact that she says “god is her truth” will not help her when she gets her ass sued.
Yana Spencer it goes to show people how easily cults can brainwash people. I think this story has done a great service to many of us who’ve never studied cults before. I have, and this fits perfectly, but I realize that cults don’t affect most Americans and there needs to be more awareness so that we can help prevent our loved ones from feeling disenchanted as disengaged from society and therefore more vulnerable to cult tactics
Thanks I thought I was becoming a zombie this shit is so wacked out these people all need to be locked away in a mental hospital. I cant believe there is what looks like normal people talking like this and they are dead serious about it...all I got to say is HOLY SHIT WOW!!! Friggin portals and zombies and revaluations and living on planets and missions..like total recall movie shit.. crazy fucking people out there!!!!!
At the end there it was pretty bold to flat out say that “their beliefs” led to those deaths. So she’s establishing that they are responsible,but couching it on the beliefs. You might as well come right out and say they killed these people. And at one point Nate adds “and the kids” and she either nods or just says “ya”. Like, whoa. What is that about.
First I thought they were gone then for a time I thought that maybe just maybe Lori hid them and after part 1 of this interview I was sure they are gone 😞
Said the same thing to my sister. We have no problems after delving into this pure EVIL..... Satan is getting off on these diabolical events. And they want to put GOD into theirs actions. ?? Blows my mind.....
I am going out on a limb here, and I think some people will be offended….but I think Melanie had a moral obligation to make a real and concerted effort to push back against Lori and put eyes on both of the children and take them with her, and keep them away from Lori! She definitely failed both of those sweet children.
Being a good Mormon, I can’t understand why Melanie thinks Chad and Lori are good people. They were married to other people and having an affair. That’s not good people.
Personally, I'm surprised Melanie didn't go to her Bishop about the whole situation. If I had a friend tell me ALL of this, and I saw things in her life going downward I'd probably dial in some back-up, which is a VERY common action to take in the LDS church. Especially with her VERY waning beliefs. Some folks can't handle members doing yoga, yet she's talking about she thinks her kid is a zombie and it's all good. So many red flags. Once the truth comes out many won't be able to sleep at night.
Jonathan Edward Oh stop blaming religion, you keep writing this over & over. I'm not Mormon, but I am Christian & can tell you Robin is correct. True Christians don't behave this way. Unfortunately there are many people who are not true Christians that claim they are. Those are the people you're talking about. Fair enough to say some people who claim to be religious are like this, but don't blame the bad actions of them on all religious people, because it's not true.
I think she's really happy those lovebuds are in jail and there's no way she would be murdered next. She stated this in the beginning of the entire interview
A lot of people don’t trust CPS... so for some it would probably be a tough call. In hindsight, clearly but putting kids into the system has its own negative aspects too.
Kaeble ok but can you tell the future?? This is shit we all hear about on the news. You don’t think it’s going to happen to kids you know that belong to your friend. Do you run around calling the cops and cps at the drop of a dime for everything? Probably not.
That is extremely narrow minded. You must be very young. You choose friends by the things that you share in common not by the things that divide you. Also, believeing in zombies doesn't equate to future murderer.
@@vladimiravrcic Seriously??? I'm going to assume your entire comment is a joke. 🤣😏🙄I never said believing in zombies in general makes you a future murderer. But when your friend believes in zombies and says that these people who are zombies are going to die AND THEN THEY DO wouldn't you START TO WONDER WTF IS GOING ON??????? Hello??!!! If the cops and Melanie Gibb had taken Lori's bizarre behavior and belief system more seriously then maybe Charles, Tammy, JJ and Tylee would all be alive today. You should check out the phone call that an acquaintance of Melanie recorded of Melanie making light of the situation. It is pretty disturbing. She comes off a lot different than she did here. Very gossipy about the whole thing. She refers to JJ "as not really being Lori's kid" just because he was adopted. She also said she knew they (Chad & Lori) were not going to harm her because she was not standing in the way of them being together. Charles went to Melanie and expressed his concern about Lori telling him he was going to be destroyed by her. He was extremely worried about his safety and the kids as well. Not only did Melanie not help him, she went with Lori to the police (after Charles tried to have her mentally evaluated) and seemed pretty supportive of her. As far as me being young, I'll take that as a compliment😉because I'm not. I'm also one of the most open minded people ever but if a friend of mine starts talking about how her kids have been turning into zombies and other people who she had previously accused of being zombies have either been shot (Charles) or died under very mysterious circumstances (Chad's wife Tammy) I would be VERY concerned for those kids. And I sure as hell would alert the cops to my concerns. I'm sorry if I offended you by seeming to disparaging people who like &/or believe in zombies. You are obviously a zombie lover. 🤣🙃🤔😏
Nate from Idaho news. I’ve watched him for years. His first story he covered was about a 2 yr old that went “missing” in Idaho from a campground. I have liked his style ever since. Great investigative reporter!
I have a feeling many facts are still in the dark about this case, and more people are involved. I believe Melanie Gibb is also involved, and knows way more than she leads us to believe in this interview. I believe the only reason she is testifying is to save her own skin. I do think she also believed Chad Daybell's teachings and books and she was apart of it. I can't wait to see what comes out in the actual trial. All these people are sick in the head.
“And then she told me about Charles being a zombie and I thought that was very unusual.....” did ya? Sit. In. His. Portal. Portal = toilet? Spare me. How are these people functioning this long....
All the different departments and institutions are taking their time thank God so whenever his charges are presented it will be Rock solid no getting out on a technical they want him bad because he was the catalyst to getting those kids killed The Portal Puppet Master ®
Chad is the nervous one,.... they are waiting and watching ... to let him led them to the truth. Keep in mind that he can't talk to Lori in jail, once he is arrested. Letting him be out, provides opportunity for them to talk on recorded calls, and for Chad to revisit murder/burial locations, stuff like that. He's out for a reason, don't doubt that.
I don't think Melanie knew what the outcome was going to be with all the talk about death's and zombies. She had to realize that Chad and Lori were different, because normal people don't talk like this, or do they.
This woman was one of the last people that could have saved JJ. She was told a child with special needs was a zombie! Definitely more involved and /or delusional ... to just leave and not notify anyone. I really hope she never recounts her "story" with a smile on her face ever again
Creating “doubt in her mind” as to whether JJ was a a zombie or not? 😐 Any normal person would be like, what the f**k? 😧While grabbing their coat, on the way....out!!!!
Nancy Anderson you’re so right. My original comment was obviously flippant, but of course, in reality, I would’ve made sure she got help. Or at least, informed the authorities. Like you said, those poor kids would probably still be alive !!
She believes Chad does have visionary gifts but was manipulated by the Adversary beyond the veiled portal.....yep , sounds about right . And she doesn’t believe that all these people were zombies , half of them were just dark . Melanie is just Crazy Lite.
She knew more than what she’s telling but needed to wash her hands when she got invloved. There’s a reason Lori told the police JJ was with her even though he wasn’t. She trusted Melissa cuz she knows a lot.
There were a couple times where she was holding back. Whether it's for legal reasons or keeping herself out of it... she knows a bit more than she shared.
I think she was trying to dance around the cookoo and keep it at a minimum.....indeed there was nothing minimum about it....but the cookoo went far deeper and she was just trying to keep it at bay for the interview. Give the important details relevant to the crimes but she knows more cray cray and is embarrassed to acknowledge she swallowed it....she didn't wake up and smell any coffee fumes till cops got involved....its a horse pill to swallow to realise she didn't have the sense to ever even spend more than 5 minutes with these people. She hung out with them and listened to them still yet going back for more.
You only spoke up when "YOU" was implicated. You keep saying "I thought that was "Different" I thought this was "Different". You're using the word "Different" instead of suspect. You sound ridiculous, you sound complicit and had you acted sooner rather than waited until you was under the microscope those who was murdered, not passed away, murdered may still be here. I hope you're arrested. When it came to Charles you asked "Why didn't he die?", a normal person would ask "How did he die?" Not why he didn't. You're Dangerous, you followed Lori. You was at the police station with her, supporting her against Charles, you accompanied her to her mental health evaluation. You are only concerned about saving yourself
Michelle Seveney I know I’m like wtf is this she is so guilty as well she totally was in on all this too she know way to much I would never spend the night at loris this lady should be committed
Nate Easton is such a phenomenal journalist & interviewer. It would have been very easy for him to pin her down, twist her words, try to trip her up but instead he just focused on getting all the info he could from MG without attacking her or pushing her. He asked reasonable, relevant, pertinent questions & directed the conversation to gain as much info as possible while never once judging MG or trying to influence the direction the interview went. That's not easy to accomplish. There is no bias in his interview. He gave her the benefit of the doubt at every turn. Whether she deserved it or not is another matter. But he did a phenomenal job
Watch the 1975 movie "Race With The Devil" with Peter Fonda and Warren Oates. It should send chills down your spine, in light of what is currently going on.
Wasn’t Chad a little worried if he fell out of favor with Lori, that he would be next? How long did he think this was going to last? Insurance fraud, social security fraud and a little killing...
My jaw hit the floor when her brothers autopsy came back that he died from natural causes. But he was a murdered for her so I guess she might not want him dead.
This reporter deserves an award. Great questions. True journalism. I salute you sir.
Rosemarie Kline this reporter needs to be in the White House press Corp.
An award for what.. he's only asking the same questions we would all ask..
An award for not laughing out loud at this nonsense.
I was thinking the same thing! He doesn't 'lead' her with questions.
He could stop giving her sound bite answers when she cant come up with one to explain this madness herself .
This lady knew “Charles” was considered a zombie and he ended up dead! So as soon as Lori called JJ a zombie, she should have known his life was in danger. Period.
Can’t be s witness now she has spoken🙄
If you had a brain. This lady did not. A total idiot.
People pretending to be religious leaders like Chad was can be very manipulative.
@mm devolange Yup, Melanie should've spoke up when she heard it first, not 5-dead bodies later!
Often times we don’t realize there’s danger until it’s too late. At least she was very honest to Police.
This is one of the best journalists I've ever seen. His listening and questioning skills are top of the line!
Walking around the track with your friend and her married boyfriend actively having an affair in front of her.... being told that the mans wife was going to die in a car wreck... just wow!
Maybe she knew she might not be able to get away with it if she didn't act along
Yeah there are so many red flags here and this lady seems to be nuts too.
@River Region Dogs I totally agree with all you said. 💯
@@ChrisPBacon-yz6nk i came back here to rewatch this polished interview.
Have you seen the recently released video of her being questioned by the Chandler police?
She's completely deranged.
A liar and had absolutely no shame.
She could have been a voice to protect the kids.
She's discpicable!
@@ajordan1976 no but I will check it now.
JJ had been acting out before they killed him because he was extremely stressed about losing his Dad and sister
Not to mention his extremely effective service dog, and off his meds for God knows how long... I shudder to think what that poor boy went through. 😢
And dog! Poor boy
Awe. I dont know why I havent even considered this. So sad :(
and he was autistic so it gave him a higher level of anxiety all of the changes and craziness. so sad for little jj. :(
Exactly and his service animal 🐕🦺
This word “passed away” referring to Charles really bothers me. It’s murdered. Plain and simple. Murdered
Notice how all deaths are called natural causes, as if we would forget, oh, yeah shot t
Four times, but .... Passed away.
I agree. The terminology diminishes the total lunacy of the circumstances surrounding his death.
Totally, that really bothers me too.
Same here
Agreed and Its tragic that the police did not do more to protect him after all of his attempts. Lori seemed determined to kill him and no one did anything about it...NO ONE! I can only assume that the police department was corrupt with members of the group, church, family, Alex's Bros, etc.
The authorities failed Charles so many times.
Yes. Domestic violence equals violence just the same. Period. Unfortunately the legal system still does not equate the two. But in my book it’s state sanctioned violence, as it’s allowed to go on within a family at a much higher degree.
I wonder how much they really could have done though. At that point Lori still had the support of many people in her own family. They needed to do some type of emergency intervention for the sake of the kids. They did not take Charles seriously enough. They needed to put pressure on her within her own support system. I doubt anything else would have worked.. If the kids are alive I guarantee that Tylee has been brainwashed. Poor Charles was setup and I feel he trusted the wrong people. Lori was at the top of that list.
Millions of men are failed by authorities every day with regards to marriage and kids
Failed Tammy, Charles, Tylee, JJ.... But Alex? God struck that man down.
Failed him big time... something needs to be done about that.. SHAME ON THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THEY FAILED CHARLES BIG TIMMMEEE
This woman could have saved the lives of the children. Why didn’t she say something to someone about Laurie’s odd behavior and her suspicions?
This is the problem isn't it Salma, people don't speak up when they should. That is why criminals get away with things.
odd? Odd? ODD?
Exactly
She could have save the life of his wife too
@@marilynkennedy8236 it's not against the law to be WEIRD AF, troubling yes, illegal no.
Word to the wise: When someone in a church setting starts talking about having to kill the Zombies among us, RRRRUUUUNNN!
Yes I mean .... they call themselves "Christians" and she is talking about "zombies...life insurance...kid's checks....adultery...." Gosh... these people sometimes at least need to read the Bible!!!
Best word to recieve
Run to the police!!!
Jesus became a zombie in the new testament.
Lots of weirdos call themselves Christians but are not and they give it a bad name.
Kudos to the interviewer for keeping a straight face and asking probing questions related to the story.
I bet he's an expert on this case at this point! He has done a great job.
Nate is just amazing!
I deffinetly wanted to shake this lady like are you kidding me!??
He doesn't need "kudos". He did a professional interview, period. An interviewer is not to assume anything. He was informed and knowledgeable. The interviewee did an excellent job too - she is honest, and did not seem to be trying to conceal things.
I am sorry but this guy did not ask any “probing” questions. And she never gave any really good or detailed answers to the questions. She was smiling through this interview - focused more on her 15 minutes of fame. It is obvious from the get go this had absolutely nothing to do with religious beliefs. This was a man and woman who wanted to be together and who had decided they would kill anybody in their way in order to be together.
Nate...the fact that you were able to keep a straight face during this interview is amazing. You are an awesome interviewer.
And patient and respectful of someone incredibly cuckoo!
Freaking Actress
If a "friend" called me and wanted me to tell police their child was with me, I'd immediately call police and let them know the child was not with me. She failed those children.
Pro tip: If someone says they are visionary......they are not.
Christ's main warning is do not be decieved. Many will come in my name and I didn't send them!
Note to self...
Crazy how all The Visionaries always believe in polygamy or they're pedos
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maybe they have schizophrenia
This is the first interview I’ve seen in months that didn’t just repeat the same info we’ve all heard... repeatedly. Thank you!
Jen Elizabeth.... exactly. She does know more, she just feels ashamed. However I’m glad to hear what she had to say
I was just sitting in my portal and I saw Chad and Lori getting the death penalty for murder.
Must be true since you recieved the message in your portal. I have to ask though, did you sit on a porcelain throne, and did you flush?
@@girlfromsouth214
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Lol
Stella Bella Hahahaha I hope you’re right
I just spit my drink out🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
No one “Passed Away” they were murdered!
Exactly.... pissed me right off!! Say it
THANK U!!!
That interviewer needs to get an award. He kept pretty much a straight face while talking to this crazy lady. Creepy people.
OR he believes what she is saying... just saying...
Jesus in general is a crazy idea
What you said
@@jessielearned it designed pretty well. They can see who will blindly follow and believe what they're told even if it doesn't make sense. If they see that you question things then they keep an eye on you.
Amen. He is terrific!
She kept saying people passed away, I’m sorry but people were murdered.
For the sake of courts in the USA she really cant say that. No one was convicted and Chad is a free man indorsed by Mormons! This is too deep for Melanie to be real. She deserves an Oscar!
I thought the same thing!! Children..her children. She wouldn't even say that - "family".
Pupmommy p POP pop in
Twilight Girl True that - Great point 👆🏽
Well apperently remains were found on his ranch ....hope they both hear them daily calling out to them
It gets to me when she says “That it led to people passing away” like if they did from natural causes or circumstances. No, lady it led to innocent people getting murder.
this woman is crazy. Goodness I hope no one is living with her in her house!
It seems like she knew alot before the bad things happened. Melanie seems likes she had some part in these sick crimes.
@@SumitBohra487 she has been brainwashed .... and very thoroughly !!! Chad and Lorri needed stupid and obedient servants to complete their plans ... !!! However, it does not mean that she should not be charged for concealing very serious circumstances .... !!! She'd better know that God is NOT on her side !!!
Ya that got me too...NO THEY WERE MURDERED LADY....SAY THE WORD ...I dont think she wants to believe it either..
Yep she's still not facing this honestly. You kind of want the interviewer to ask of a sudden start rubbing her face in the reality of it. Like "lady don't you realize those kids are f-ing dead and you were at least somewhat complicit in that?"
I’m sorry but this woman is insane. She can still say she loves Lori and Chad knowing what they did.
You can still love your friends and family who have done bad things.
We are to hate the evil works but not the person. Easier said than done.
Well, this interview was taped prior to the kids being found dead. I’m not sure she knew at this point. People want to blame her, but she’s the one who originally went to the police to break this case wide open. If she did know, she prolly went to the police and this interview was a head fake so she didn’t get killed!
There is good and bad in everyone. We must desire to do good. Goodness is one of God's spirit.
God's word say He will give us over to the desires of our heart, whether good or bad, because of your free will to choose between the two.
God honors our free will. God do not force anyone to do his will.
Bible says, "It is God's will that we come to an accurate knowledge of truth". It is up to us to desire this accurate knowledge of truth.
Jesus said, "Seek first the kingdom and God's righteousness......". God's standards of right and wrong; good or bad. NOT our own standards of what is right and wrong; good or bad.
God's true worshippers seek God Righteousness. Jesus obeys His Fathers words and we should too.
God said, "Listen to my son". We listen to Jesus and Jesus listens to his Father, than we can say our worship is in 'spirit and truth'.
True Christians will speak the truth and manifest the 9 fruits of the spirit, "Love, Joy, Peace, Faith, Patience, Goodness, Kindness, Mildness,, Self-Control", against such things there is no law".
It is what is in your heart; the seat of motivation which God knows. Desire in your heart to do God's will.
Changes need to take place in your life, because, God's word said, "The one who does the will of God remains forever". Simple truth.
I agree, the use of the word "love" sounds off somehow. But I think that within their little cult there was a lot of expression of love amongst those who were "the chosen ones."
@Nature Witch there are plenty of cases of sane people having visions that have been verified. I started having intrusive thoughts (but more like a snapshot of a picture or 2 second video) about buildings falling about a month before 9/11. I told my boss, who was a psych nurse), my therapist (who i saw for ptsd childhood stuff), and my husband about it. I even changed departments at work to work in the emergency services department bc i knew "something" was going to happen. When I walked into work that morning and saw the buildings falling I knew that's what it was. It was by no means specific or could be used to pinpoint anything coming, but it was verified by 3 people and my therapist showed me where it was written in my chart. I've had other, less dramatic experiences, but I'm in no way in cloud cookoo,.
she's not telling the whole truth. I think she was way more involved than she's leading on
Well she sure was around for alot of it
I have a feeling too
She knew something was going in. She just played stupid and kept her distance. She didn't want to know.
so many tics
@@karrisaleonard993 EXACTLY...she knows a whole lot more than she let's on!!
Chad didn’t want a high needs child cramping his style. Look how much they twisted their religion to suit their wants.
What's sad is them having to kill Tylee as well. And no one was "fighting" for her.
All religions do that, Alisa.
Exactly! Murderers
@@sitnspin1819 that is why some of us choose spirituality over religion
Right?? He manipulated everybody just to get a hot new wife with no kids. He probably killed people too and, as in right now, he is a free man.
She keeps asking if it makes sense. Hun, you should’ve been asking yourself that question when you were friends with them. It’s quite clear to the average sane person that NONE OF THIS MAKES SENSE.
Great comment, 👌🏼
I don't think you understand being in a cult.
She doesn’t mean “does that make sense “ like do you believe the crazy shit. It’s more like is what I’m explaining to you make sense like do you understand what I’m trying to convey. Obviously she doesn’t believe this shit. You don’t know what this woman has been through. She watched her best friend be indoctrinated into a cult and kill her whole family.
@@rationallyruby Her friend Lori killed her first husband long before she met Chad and long before she was in the cult. Like 13 years before they were friends!
@@rationallyruby You got that right, she WATCHED her friend kill her whole family! She knew information that could have possibly saved lives had she spoke up sooner! In my opinion I believe she wouldn't have spoke up at all if it wasn't for saving her own ass only!
The reporter definitely gets the keeping a straight face while talking to batshit crazy people award!!!!
Now Chad’s children never became zombies, and hers were, how convenient!
Lori has lost husband and possibly two kids and now seats in jail, while Chad walks free with all five children!!!
In the Christian faith, you MUST have your own mind.
VeeEen EerKay right how come Chads kids didn’t die and hers did
Chads kids are grown. Hers weren’t yet.
Chad’s kids weren’t witnesses to a murder.
Chads kids are all adults and on their own. Lori’s were still minors and therefore “in the way.” 😢
These two just didn't want to work wanted the good life with no kids they are selfish to say the least she could have given up custody of JJ and let Charles raise him. Chad is disgusting with his ideas and has serious mental issues if this story has been in police documentation since December why is Chad walking free?
When a mom tells you their child is now a zombie you need to get law enforcement involved. This lady watched it all unfold. Yeah I would get a lawyer Melanie
Agree 100%.
Melanie thought she had her talked into giving JJ to Kay.
@@ejwis1 So she said. Kind of a lengthy very detailed interview almost like an interrogation. I wonder if the police encouraged it to find inconsistencies in her story...
@@ejwis1 Good point. Time frame needed. Did Melanie AND Lori believe JJ was alive ... or just Melanie? (Excellent point - we don't know; quite yet. Time will hopefully tell. Kay & Larry seemed to believe Chad was the threat to JJ - but, that Lori needed to listen to them and tell them where JJ was; they too believed JJ was alive and that Lori was being stubborn and or obeying Chad's instructions.)
But, strangely why no mention about Tylee? (Most especially, when Tylee perhaps went 'missing' much sooner.)
Colby was wanting to hear from Tylee just as bad as Kay & Larry wanted to hear from JJ.
Was Melanie in communication with Larry & Kay; but not Colby? (Maybe)
Otherwise, her statement raises Red Flags. Time frame dependant. In regards to Tylee what did Melanie G. know or at least believe - when only concerned about Lori giving JJ to Kay.
*Or, possibly Melanie G was just convinced at the time that Chad (and Lori's) issues were related to custody because that's what she was "told". Thus, biologically Melanie G. understood Tylee had no connections to Kay & Larry. ONLY JJ DID. (Possible.)
Worse case scenario Melanie G. only saw a way to save one child (amongst all of Chad's Zombie beliefs - made up rules). Melanie could argue JJ was NOT biologically related to Lori. Thus, Lori and or Chad did NOT have to comply with Zombie rules ... not their offspring. (If she's desperate to think up a reason - any reason.) *Or, was Melanie G. only afraid for the cult and or those involved in Tylee's alleged kidnapping? Was killing JJ just too risky? Too much attention in the cult. *And, thus would simply be "best" if Lori surrendered JJ to Kay & Larry ... even if no way for Melanie (or anyone) to save Tylee; either because too late or blood relationship.
Chad (someone) is ...sick. This just screams that Chad could not handle worldly kids. BUT, refused to let Kay & Larry have JJ (and Colby have Tylee or Tylee & JJ).
Someone was brainwashed to the point of no return (mentally ill and beyond) or Chad has more evil in his heart than we all imagined.
Who looked nervous in Hawaii? CHAD
Who (possibly) appeared clueless? (An unworried mom.)
100%. She really needs to do some soil searching when people talk about spouses dying??? And u don’t do shit?? She better pray a ton I think she knew they were killing people
I love the fact that Charles got the last laugh on her and switched the life insurance policy revenge is sweet
Lmfao, you can hear in Lori's voice while speaking to police, just how pissed she was when she found out Kay recieved over a million 🤣.
Luv that
That had to be a God thing because everything else went south. But I do wonder if she killed JJ because she didn’t get the money because she wanted to hurt Kay...I don’t know
@@WhiteNoiseOpEdCommentary That's exactly what I was thinking too! She's that evil! This one here, MG talked to save her own ass only! She's so fake in my opinion!
I think he changed the life insurance so JJ would be cared for by Kay. I don't see that as revenge.
She watches Lori look at her own son and say "I think he's a zombie", then look at him herself and actually contemplate it? He's a child! She's just as brainwashed by Chad as Lori. And she knew what they did to Charles.
I don't like her at all I don't trust her I think that she knows more than what does she lied to the police and told them that she did have JJ at one point I think that she's just as horrible as Lori and Chad. That's my opinion
She is evil just like lori correction
This woman seems very complicit to me
@@sarabrant723 I feel that way also. I think she's complicit and just as evil like lori.
This is soo creepy, There are altually people walking around this planet looking normal as hell and thinking this crazy, very scary stuff
Melanie seems like a nice lady but she also seems to be obsessed with Lori Vallow. She seems to be the type of gullible person that Lori and Chad could manipulate easily. I can't believe that after all Lori has done ...... Melanie is sitting there thinking we should feel sorry for her because she is in jail and not able to be with Chad ...... give me a break!! ...... child murderers belong in jail.
Absolutely and I was one of them for 20 yrs. It took several years to get out of LDS- I can relate
Kelly McCain...you absolutely took the words out of my mouth...smh. In the end, no one is supposed to be sorry about evil, wicked stuff! The moment Lori wanted to be with him, a married man, and she was married herself to another man?? And they call themselves knowing the Lord?? with all that weird Visions stuff?? Wise counsel should have kicked in from Melanie, that's if she was a true believer in Christ. I feel sorry for Melanie because she became convinced of the nonsense which was unbiblical and evil right off the bat. You cannot feel sorry for intentional satanic mess.
Not only crazy, but armed to the teeth.
I know it’s crazy.
I just love the way Nate guides this dialog. He's asking the questions we all have in mind .forgot to add greetings to all from Saudi Arabia 🇸🇦🇸🇦
He handles her well also you can see it.
@@marianmartin9441 True
I love how she keeps asking, “Does that make sense?” Nah girl none of this makes sense!!
omg agree
Right? I liked how Nate didn’t validate her by saying “yes”, he just let her go on and on.
Idk how he kept a straight face! He did a fantastic job!
Andrea Shields I agree, he did do a really good job! I’m ready for part 3
If Chad is asking her to lie, wouldn’t you call the police right then especially if a child is involved?
“Does that make sense?” No, Melanie. None of this crap makes any sense, and shame on you for going along with this craziness. I applaud this journalist for being able to keep his cool with you. If you had spoken up, four people would be alive. Don’t ever forget that.
This person is way out there herself.
@@almagivler567 agreed!!!
Hold up..."she knew Tammy was going to pass away before she got up there" - what in the actual hell, lady, you don't need a lawyer, you need several because you definitely had substantial knowledge of premeditated murder. You all are lunatics! May all the deceased R.I.P. - may justice be served swiftly.
dixichyna yea but Tammy didn’t die so she probably thought it was all nonsense or just talk.
They were "predicting" weird shit all the time and didn't happen. You can't call the police bc someone's talking nonsense! Charles even DID try, what happened? Nothing. You cannot expect that you are accountable someone else's actions. Chad and Lori used her bc she was a good friend, threw her under the bus, and since she's a witness she would've "passed away" if she hadn't gone to the police then.
For 3 yrs Chad was telling people Tammy was going to die at a young age..Chad told Julie that his mission couldn't get done until Tammy dies..so a lot of people knew this, not just Melani G..
Agreed!
@@yourinnerlawyer4035 Excuse me, she is an admitted liar, and adulter.
She has some very iffy friends. Her visionary should have warned her of the company she keeps.
I think she was hoping for a piece of the Insurance Pie.
But they didn't die.
Don't drink the kool-aid !
From a person (me) who has never heard the story of these 2 children, I just wanted to say that the gentlemen who is interviewing is doing such a wonderful job! He is not leading and also very interesting to listen to. His questions are valid and really filling me in on these horrific events. This is a sad, sad story. Edit: Nate, I just heard your name. You are a excellent interviewer. I apologize, I don’t know what the correct term is, but yes, a tragic, tragic story.
So this woman could have alerted the Police about Chad's wife dying in a car accident & saved the woman's life & she didnt?!
They would have laughed that off so quick. Thinking these people are whack just like the rest of us would have!
Cops don't save peoples life in car wrecks dummy. First aid kits do. Smarten up.
Listen I was mormon for over 35 years and I know that mormon doctrine has some batshit crazy stuff. THis lady like a lot of mormons get off on this stuff and they do because it makes them feel special like, I know something that you dont and Boy am I better than you cause I am special by knowing this.
@Harrison Ford will kill someone with his plane yep, I was told they have to physically do something. They said it to me. I was like sooo, he has to kill me before anything is done?? Basically yeah.
Penwick parsley They get to finally feel like part of the “elite”.
After listening to the phone call that has recently surfaced between melanie gibb and a friend, where she's calling jj a drug baby and "not loris real son" while knowing he was dead is so disgusting. This woman is SO deceptive!
Where can I hear this phone call?
Where can I hear this?
Seriously? OMG. Those poor babies and this stupid woman disgusts me. She should be held accountable.
When your killed. That is not passed away. It's called being murdered.
Well said.
these guys are cold blooded murderers posing as "Christians". It's startling how cool and composed this woman is.
She's a bit off, this lady. Quite preachy, too, for someone who can't accurately describe murders and murderers.
She seemed to believe in zombies too 😒😒🙄
1000th % thank you
@Coco Chanelly 10000%
Min Young no, she didn’t. She knew in her gut some things were off. I don’t think she is to blame.
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Interesting interview. Not as innocent.
What’s crazy is sometimes it seems like Melanie has come to her senses, and other times it seems like she is still struggling with her beliefs. In one part she implied that Chad’s gift had been manipulated by Satan or something. Like she still kind of believes he had/has revelatory power, but Satan manipulated it??
Also the fact that she said she still loves Chad. Seriously?!
I think she struggles with knowing who her best friend was before Chad vs after... Look at Lori’s niece though. Gibb is the ONLY one close to get even willing to speak out.
Lori is not the first woman Chad has bamboozled, even Melanie seems still caught up with him.
She knew what was going on but she looked the other way. What the Hell is a zombie ? got to look it up.
Agree.
K, this woman's totally nuts. Her laughter & smiling is really weird.
Agreed about that laugh, smiles, lack of remorse, and odd behaviors when she relays about learning about the murders. I think David was the one who talked sense into Melanie.
When Melanie Gibb says that she thought it was, "unusual" that has got to be the biggest understatement that I have ever heard.
Shes a calm woman of few words but a lot of feelings inside. Don't judge her cuz she has different personality than yours and expresses herself differently than you. That's how she felt in that moment also; without all the info. she now knows.
@@marialavelle1393 I'm not judging her. I am making a statement. The only judgement I have is that she must have a lot of courage to, not only tell the authorities the truth when she thought it may be putting her own life at risk, but then coming on national television to let everyone know. I cannot imagine what that would be like. She is holding back though, most everyone can see that.
She may also be wary of talking and now, the church knows of her learning those crazy teachings.
DITTO!!!
She is just as crazy as Chad and Lori!
Lorie tried to switch the beneficiary to her but Charles was notified by email and he blocked it.
Thank God he did!! Poor guy, I couldn't imagine going through that nightmare then being murdered after nobody believed him... So freaking devastating. RIP Charles
Carly Rae right!! And the body cam footage of the police at his home on the evening he came back from Houston is horrible! They never took him seriously, and now all these innocent people are gone..
david Bouras Actually she LOCKED him out by changing the password. But he caught it and then switched the beneficiary to Kay. I wonder if Lori had known she wouldn’t get the insurance, if she still would have had him killed?
So Chad having a "premonition" that his wife was going to die in a car accident kinda explains why he told Tammy to go visit her family 5 hours away.
He probably did something to her car or something 😖
Chills. Sick fuck.
Looks like Charles was supposed to have an accident too, since that didn't happen it was on to plan B.
@@EH-xy5uv it burns me up that Chad is still walking free ! Guilty as you know what ! The only zombies are Lorie and Chad ! Murdering, psychopath, demonic , from the sewers of hell ! And this goes for Melanie and anyone else that knows the truth and spews lies !
@@barbiekyzar5192 they are so messed up psychologically, mentally. whatever their brain is musch and not capable of understanding the difference between reality and fantasy
She is complicit for sure. She was just as hood winked and STILL IS! I’m blown away that she said Poor Chad and Lori
Lori changed her mind about leaving JJ with Kay when she realized she wouldn't get the check every month.
Naaa I believe Kay said no ... then shit happened there were only minutes for his life to be saved from these psycho ‘s
@@joansmith6844 Kay never would have said no she would have welcomed JJ with open arms.
I wonder if she is still getting checks?
@@hoosierhiver Not in prison!
Always follow the money and you'll find your answers. It's sad but some people really lose their shit over this.
So many people failed Charles and the children. This is absolutely crazy.
Yes, nothing short-
The days of Noah. Evil called good and good called evil
@@barbiekyzar5192 that is how I see people that are prosperous they are evil, and they think their dirty deeds are considered normal and valued.
It is utterly Dreadful that video of Charles and the Cops is so sad. The one shinning star, or hope is that if there is a heaven the kids and Charles are together. Very sad. :(
@ not her responsibility!
Why did she not call cps at the moment she said her child is a zombie knowing her husband was killed after claimed as zombie?! 😭
The 'authorities' found nothing wrong with Lori. The police likely wouldn't take this seriously.
Because shes holding back a tonne Shit here. Protecting herself
Often we don’t realize there’s danger until it’s too late.
Charles got an order to do a mental evaluation! Police did zero, after she told him she’d kill him, Charles died children were in danger, Cox was a killer! Perhaps a hired killer! Sad! Then he died!
Just rewatching this for the millionth time and I can't believe I've not picked this up before. The whole mission was focused on ridding the world of Zombies before tribulations. That's what Melanie said, she knew Tylee disappeared and Lori had called her a zombie, she knew Charles was murdered for being a zombie. So why did Melanie believe (based on the discussion JJ was a zombie and had to go) that Lori was going to send him to Kay whom she also believed to be a zombie??? Considering all had to be destroyed, I find it highly unlikely. Melanie puts herself on the outside, but this group would not have had her in their inner circle had she not believed what they were saying
Exactly
She was in as deep as the rest of them
This woman is a liar. Melanie & Lori were thick as thieves..
Why didn’t she report things earlier and save lives?
@@idontcare1481that’s the million dollar question…
This woman absolutely knows more than shes saying.These people are insane. Zombies? seriously !
Right ! So angry . Will these babies ever get justice?
Liz Davis I think SHE is the Zombie! Living life in a dreamland
I'm not buying her BS
@@Rayofstorm no it will never be enough unless they can undead them!
Agreed
This story just gets wilder and wilder. Who in their right mind would believe any of this garbage??? It's absolutely ridiculous!!!
Only a deranged serial killer like Lori.
True story!!
Right? “I didn’t one hundred percent believe it” Well even if you 1% believed it, you’re a nut.
Honey! It's a cult ..... It's called brain washing
Have you never watched escaping polygamy??? It's all about the FDS church which is who kicked Lori and Chad out
JJs behaviour was likely due to the fact she stopped his medications! Lori is evil
And having a mother like her!!
Exactly! Both Chad and Lori are evil!
And his dog sister was gone poor JJ'S life must have been a living nightmare without all that he had lost in a short amount of time I feel so sad now that the truth is out now the kids are dead
and he likely felt the criminal intent of his adoptive mother. These children have a high sensitivity. They pick up on these things.
What I don’t understand they have no problems killing all these precious life’s but saved the dog supposedly ????
Her sadness for this entire ordeal really only shows in the moment that she's talking about when Chad called her and told her not to answer the phone when the police call. She was more upset through this entire interview that her friends betrayed her and put her in that position than the fact that any of this happened to begin with. Lock her up she knew what was going on, she only turned on them because they turned on her first.
As she's speaking she looks like she's realizing how stupid it all sounds out loud. Lol
Absolutely...shes slowly realizing how CRAZY she is and her statement SHE STILL LOVES CHAD GUY DAYBELL.
I’m gasping from second hand embarrassment. If my friend says this I’d whack her over the head with a pot
Yeah, that sounded serious at one time. Chad has a thing going here.
I think this poor lady has been throughout a lot and like any cult member coming out, we shouldn’t judge her. To me it sounds like her herself is coming to her own realization slowly of how crazy everything is and what crazy teachings she was taught. And Nate is a great interviewer asking the right questions to help her speak from her experience. And she’s very brave to speak out against her “friends”
@@AndrealovesGod when your closest friends are liars and having an affair, it doesn't say a lot about your character. I don't know anyone who trusts anyone who says they have "visions". That is always of Satan. That's biblical. The whole Mormon cult was based on the very things that Lori and Chad Daybell are speaking about. Having "visions". Adultery. The only thing missing is Daybell confessing he had sex with her daughter.
She said what we all knew: the children are dead.
I cried so hard at the end of this. My hope vanished like smoke on a windy day. They're dead, oh no....I hope they died 'peacefully in their sleep, of natural causes', like Tammy. :-(
But where are they? Did the gravedigger put them somewhere? His cemetery?
Yes, I believe they are dead now too after watching this.... But where are they? Tylee near/ in yellow stone. JJ near Rexburg?
@Edith Beale this lady is still easing her confession..she's still protecting some words and statements...
@@Wistful77 how could it be peaceful knowing that your own mother is killing you? what a nightmare for them both. Not everyone believes in psychics but I do. And the story they tell is horific
@Edith Beale lol yes she does. Needs some iodine bless her
So Chad decides that Lori's husband and kids are zombies? They're now dead/missing. I think he wanted Lori all to himself.
R H Especially since his kids were never “zombies” and his wife Tammy was “going to die in a car accident someday.”
Money. He wanted the money she had or could have
He influence Lori
I believe he knew Tylee was onto his BS and he couldn't sway her so she had to go before Lori started seeing him for what he was through her daughter's eyes. I also believe he didn't want to deal with a special needs child so again, Lori's son JJ had to go.....he didn't want him cramping his style. It's all very strange and sad to think a mother could dispose of her own children all because of a dude who looks like a character straight out of a Beavis n Butthead episode. Smh.
@@kikomurphy9705 I thought the same thing. I think Tylee saw through Chad and was calling his BS. I think he felt very threatened by her.
Her animation is crazy. She answers so specific to keep her out of the loop but reiterating how she does or doesn't know things.
Please stop saying passed away. They were murdered.
it's a perfectly acceptable way of saying that someone died.
Pam Lyons she doesn’t have evidence and this is still an open investigation. Don’t be stupid
@@watchgoose Not in reference to what has happened here. In normal cases, yes it is a polite way to say someone has died. But, in discussing the methodical, premeditated ways these victims have died, it's very clear it's murder.
She is smoothing things out......makes her feel better about it. I see a silent accomplice who knew but who looked the other way until it got public. Now she is saving her image, again, with her gentleness and her belief in the scriptures. Not really impressing to me. She should have come to the police, much sooner. Maybe they could have had them under investigation. She did nothing.
What about her ex :)
She keeps saying “does that make sense”??? No lady none of this crap makes any sense. You are loving the attention and are complicit in all this.
Yes and dumb. The smirking makes you question her sanity. Chad's visions were delusions.
Erc Ly -Dumb & Dumber folks where they come from 🤣😂
I think this woman is getting her 15 minutes of fame, she knew something was wrong and did nothing! insane!
She should be arrested.
She's a nut!
She probably helped them commit the crimes
10:48. The smirk of the fun memories she has of tormenting Charles with Lori by moving her car...disgusting.
She keeps asking the interviewer, “Does that make sense?” NO! No it doesn’t!!!
This woman is delusional or a liar.
Do you believe her?
I don't.
She isn’t very bright IMHO..... this is a big case. She is running the risk of compromising the trial.... All this shit talk could make things easier for them in the long run, because they’ll say she has influenced the public... not a smart move. The fact that she says “god is her truth” will not help her when she gets her ass sued.
Because she knows she sounds bat shit crazy . He's actually doing a lot to give her answers nice sound bites
It sounds like this lady knew a lot about people who were gonna die and never reported it I think she's just as much to blame
But look what happened to Charles when he tried to get help from the police when he felt totally threatened by his wife.
Cops do nothing about that. They only do something after someone is hurt or gone. Sad truth.
Agree 100%!! Only when she thought they were gone pin JJ s death on her, then she goes to police, but still not for a further 2 weeks!!!
The whole thing is ridiculous. What a bunch of lunatics.
Yana Spencer it goes to show people how easily cults can brainwash people. I think this story has done a great service to many of us who’ve never studied cults before. I have, and this fits perfectly, but I realize that cults don’t affect most Americans and there needs to be more awareness so that we can help prevent our loved ones from feeling disenchanted as disengaged from society and therefore more vulnerable to cult tactics
K R unfortunately cult leaders are charismatic and can be very attractive to average people. Many strong people have fallen gullible to cults
Thanks I thought I was becoming a zombie this shit is so wacked out these people all need to be locked away in a mental hospital. I cant believe there is what looks like normal people talking like this and they are dead serious about it...all I got to say is HOLY SHIT WOW!!! Friggin portals and zombies and revaluations and living on planets and missions..like total recall movie shit.. crazy fucking people out there!!!!!
She's such a liar, then laugh's...I hope she goes to jail/ prison too. She admits over and over what happened and did nothing...
I don’t believe the children are alive from watching just 2 parts of this story 💔💔
I think she was implying the kids have but maybe she is not allowed to say it lawyers police etc...I hope not.
At the end there it was pretty bold to flat out say that “their beliefs” led to those deaths. So she’s establishing that they are responsible,but couching it on the beliefs. You might as well come right out and say they killed these people. And at one point Nate adds “and the kids” and she either nods or just says “ya”. Like, whoa. What is that about.
Unfortunately, I don't see how they could be alive.
I didnt think they were or are alive before watching part 1.
First I thought they were gone then for a time I thought that maybe just maybe Lori hid them and after part 1 of this interview I was sure they are gone 😞
If this lady told the police this, why the hell isn't Chad in handcuffs? 😕
My guess is FBI and prosecutors are hoping Chad slips up and leads them to where the kids are being held, or buried unfortunately
@Edie Beale The only hope is that Lori will break down and spill the beans! Or perhaps Tammy's autopsy will implicate him.
@Edith Beale yep they are paying her for the interview. She will use the money to raise for the million dollar bail
She acts like she is 'waking up' to her delusions, but appears to still be under some form of mind control.
@@pamcooper5837 idk I think she kind of feels stupid...
Just when I thought my family was disfunctional....
Right?
@@lisapotter656 I mean dang this is horrible
Said the same thing to my sister. We have no problems after delving into this pure EVIL..... Satan is getting off on these diabolical events. And they want to put GOD into theirs actions. ?? Blows my mind.....
Hahahaha...true..
I am going out on a limb here, and I think some people will be offended….but I think Melanie had a moral obligation to make a real and concerted effort to push back against Lori and put eyes on both of the children and take them with her, and keep them away from Lori! She definitely failed both of those sweet children.
You’re definitely not alone
“She was gonna pass away”
“How”
“A car accident “
What in the actual duck
Lady, it isn't a tragic story it is EVIL
2 sick evil people who are also brain dead
"after Charles passed away." He was murdered!!! Absolutely everyone involved in this is bananas.
Melanie G. putting her spin on things. I hope the DA looks carefully at her part in all of this.
Do you think she had something to do with it
@@diannh2894I think she could have raised flags at least.
Being a good Mormon, I can’t understand why Melanie thinks Chad and Lori are good people. They were married to other people and having an affair. That’s not good people.
Personally, I'm surprised Melanie didn't go to her Bishop about the whole situation. If I had a friend tell me ALL of this, and I saw things in her life going downward I'd probably dial in some back-up, which is a VERY common action to take in the LDS church. Especially with her VERY waning beliefs. Some folks can't handle members doing yoga, yet she's talking about she thinks her kid is a zombie and it's all good. So many red flags. Once the truth comes out many won't be able to sleep at night.
Jonathan Edward Oh stop blaming religion, you keep writing this over & over. I'm not Mormon, but I am Christian & can tell you Robin is correct. True Christians don't behave this way. Unfortunately there are many people who are not true Christians that claim they are. Those are the people you're talking about. Fair enough to say some people who claim to be religious are like this, but don't blame the bad actions of them on all religious people, because it's not true.
How can this woman tell this story while smiling and laughing. She is so disconnected from reality.
Cult member
I thought the same thing! There's a serious disconnect between truth & reality with A LOT of Rural America.
I think she's really happy those lovebuds are in jail and there's no way she would be murdered next. She stated this in the beginning of the entire interview
these people are all possessed. Totally detached from reality. The whole group should be jailed.
Or had a part shes an accessory to murder
Your friend starts stating her son is a zombie... you call child protective services... I mean, right? 🤷♂️
A lot of people don’t trust CPS... so for some it would probably be a tough call. In hindsight, clearly but putting kids into the system has its own negative aspects too.
Kaeble ok but can you tell the future?? This is shit we all hear about on the news. You don’t think it’s going to happen to kids you know that belong to your friend. Do you run around calling the cops and cps at the drop of a dime for everything? Probably not.
Really, a no brainer..
@@NAbbey87 better than dead ..
But she thought Lori was going to Kay.
Why would you continue to be friends with someone who seemed to believe in zombies??? Unless you are as wacky as they are!
@Christine Mushaia
Amos 3:3
King James Version
3 Can two walk together, except they be agreed?
Religion is just plain crazy. But this is double crazy!
That is extremely narrow minded. You must be very young. You choose friends by the things that you share in common not by the things that divide you. Also, believeing in zombies doesn't equate to future murderer.
@@vladimiravrcic Seriously??? I'm going to assume your entire comment is a joke. 🤣😏🙄I never said believing in zombies in general makes you a future murderer. But when your friend believes in zombies and says that these people who are zombies are going to die AND THEN THEY DO wouldn't you START TO WONDER WTF IS GOING ON??????? Hello??!!! If the cops and Melanie Gibb had taken Lori's bizarre behavior and belief system more seriously then maybe Charles, Tammy, JJ and Tylee would all be alive today. You should check out the phone call that an acquaintance of Melanie recorded of Melanie making light of the situation. It is pretty disturbing. She comes off a lot different than she did here. Very gossipy about the whole thing. She refers to JJ "as not really being Lori's kid" just because he was adopted. She also said she knew they (Chad & Lori) were not going to harm her because she was not standing in the way of them being together. Charles went to Melanie and expressed his concern about Lori telling him he was going to be destroyed by her. He was extremely worried about his safety and the kids as well. Not only did Melanie not help him, she went with Lori to the police (after Charles tried to have her mentally evaluated) and seemed pretty supportive of her. As far as me being young, I'll take that as a compliment😉because I'm not. I'm also one of the most open minded people ever but if a friend of mine starts talking about how her kids have been turning into zombies and other people who she had previously accused of being zombies have either been shot (Charles) or died under very mysterious circumstances (Chad's wife Tammy) I would be VERY concerned for those kids. And I sure as hell would alert the cops to my concerns. I'm sorry if I offended you by seeming to disparaging people who like &/or believe in zombies. You are obviously a zombie lover. 🤣🙃🤔😏
I’ve lost all hope now that JJ and Tylee are alive 😭 Now when is Chad going to be arrested??
He would not have done it himself. He manipulated her and had her do it. The only arrest is if he killed his wife
Deedee thanks for the reassurance 😊if something has happened to these kids I think Lori and Chad are accountable for it!
Francesca Williams and I’m sure he killed his wife
They are dead they found the bodies in his back yard
I think she's being sincere, but she is insanely gullible. If my best friend told me half of the the things she said I would have questioned her.
Jade she only knew Lori for a year. Hardly a close relationship. Lori was surrounded by enablers.
I would have called child protective services if my friend told me that her son is a zombie
Or run away! They were all dying.
You have to be gullible to be a Mormon. They are taught to not question anything.
More like insane AND gullible
Who ever the interviewer is he is brilliant. He gets in her head . He asked the important questions .
Nate from Idaho news. I’ve watched him for years. His first story he covered was about a 2 yr old that went “missing” in Idaho from a campground. I have liked his style ever since. Great investigative reporter!
He’s absolutely awesome. Watch all of his Secret Santa videos if you want to scrub your brain of this awfulness.
Nate is great!
Nate and his family live in Rexburg Idaho. He’s done some really good work.
I have a feeling many facts are still in the dark about this case, and more people are involved. I believe Melanie Gibb is also involved, and knows way more than she leads us to believe in this interview. I believe the only reason she is testifying is to save her own skin. I do think she also believed Chad Daybell's teachings and books and she was apart of it. I can't wait to see what comes out in the actual trial. All these people are sick in the head.
“And then she told me about Charles being a zombie and I thought that was very unusual.....” did ya? Sit. In. His. Portal. Portal = toilet? Spare me. How are these people functioning this long....
Tragically sad about the kids, but your comment is Hilarious!
All of are sick
God I cannot even fathom this.....
😌😂😂😂
🤣oooh help us Lord
When Chad called and asked her to say JJ was with her, wouldn't the most logical response be, "well where is he really?"
Exactly.
I got the feeling she wondered that. She knew something was very wrong so she refused to go with Chads story
She didn't ask because she knew he was dead. IMO they all knew, and in that moment, they ALL knew each other knew he was dead.
How is Chad not in custody!? This whole situation is beyond crazy...
All the different departments and institutions are taking their time thank God so whenever his charges are presented it will be Rock solid no getting out on a technical they want him bad because he was the catalyst to getting those kids killed The Portal Puppet Master ®
Cult leaders often insulate themselves and have others do their work.
Chad is the nervous one,.... they are waiting and watching ... to let him led them to the truth. Keep in mind that he can't talk to Lori in jail, once he is arrested. Letting him be out, provides opportunity for them to talk on recorded calls, and for Chad to revisit murder/burial locations, stuff like that. He's out for a reason, don't doubt that.
chad was playing with loris mind and it all blew up in his face. now he has nothing
Exactly what I want to know. He sounds like the mastermind.
I don't think Melanie knew what the outcome was going to be with all the talk about death's and zombies. She had to realize that Chad and Lori were different, because normal people don't talk like this, or do they.
This guy is a great interviewer! He's able to keep his opinions/reactions in check. I'd be going like " CUCKOO! CUCKOO!"
That's not a guy! She's datelines first Trans!
@@CA-sj6oo what?
This woman was one of the last people that could have saved JJ. She was told a child with special needs was a zombie! Definitely more involved and /or delusional ... to just leave and not notify anyone. I really hope she never recounts her "story" with a smile on her face ever again
Creating “doubt in her mind” as to whether JJ was a a zombie or not? 😐 Any normal person would be like, what the f**k? 😧While grabbing their coat, on the way....out!!!!
Agreed!!!!
Nancy Anderson you’re so right. My original comment was obviously flippant, but of course, in reality, I would’ve made sure she got help. Or at least, informed the authorities. Like you said, those poor kids would probably still be alive !!
But she is LDS so she has already been taught to believe in magic so just another step to zombies.
She believes Chad does have visionary gifts but was manipulated by the Adversary beyond the veiled portal.....yep , sounds about right . And she doesn’t believe that all these people were zombies , half of them were just dark . Melanie is just Crazy Lite.
@@wdxb93f you don't know LDS beliefs..quit spreading lies...judging a whole church because of a couple mentally ill kooks!!
“I don’t like drama. I’m a pretty chill person.” Yeah, that checks out….
🤣🤣🤣
the fact that she didnt instantly doubt the zombie belief until waaaay to late shows she is crazy as well.
No shit haha
She knew more than what she’s telling but needed to wash her hands when she got invloved. There’s a reason Lori told the police JJ was with her even though he wasn’t. She trusted Melissa cuz she knows a lot.
My man Nate should get the Pulitzer prize, he's been on top of this case like a shadow!
Nate is better then Dateline and the investigators.
Hes amazing
Absolutely! Nate the great! Excellent reporting!
Nate is an excellent reporter and interviewer. He doesn't showboat. He is personable, non-biased and gets to the facts.
Agreed!
There were a couple times where she was holding back. Whether it's for legal reasons or keeping herself out of it... she knows a bit more than she shared.
I think she was trying to dance around the cookoo and keep it at a minimum.....indeed there was nothing minimum about it....but the cookoo went far deeper and she was just trying to keep it at bay for the interview. Give the important details relevant to the crimes but she knows more cray cray and is embarrassed to acknowledge she swallowed it....she didn't wake up and smell any coffee fumes till cops got involved....its a horse pill to swallow to realise she didn't have the sense to ever even spend more than 5 minutes with these people. She hung out with them and listened to them still yet going back for more.
Michelle Bautista “Dancing around the cookoo!!” That was hilarious!! I had to take a moment out from the seriousness of it all and that got me!!😁😉
Yep I think she’s most likely hiding her responsibility in some of this
Her laughing at such a serious situation people have died 5 that we know of. Yes absolutely she knows more 😡 I hope the cops break her
@@annedrury1748 certainly unsettling.
She's not in touch with reality.
You only spoke up when "YOU" was implicated. You keep saying "I thought that was "Different" I thought this was "Different". You're using the word "Different" instead of suspect. You sound ridiculous, you sound complicit and had you acted sooner rather than waited until you was under the microscope those who was murdered, not passed away, murdered may still be here. I hope you're arrested. When it came to Charles you asked "Why didn't he die?", a normal person would ask "How did he die?" Not why he didn't. You're Dangerous, you followed Lori. You was at the police station with her, supporting her against Charles, you accompanied her to her mental health evaluation. You are only concerned about saving yourself
People were murdered not just passing away..
Exactly 💯%
They’re discussing zombies and portals like they are discussing the weather. So insane!!!
No kidding
This is why the world and the people in it will be well rid of religion and belief in the supernatural!
Michelle Seveney I know I’m like wtf is this she is so guilty as well she totally was in on all this too she know way to much I would never spend the night at loris this lady should be committed
It's absolute madness. Whoever introduced religion to this world.....
@@littlesmith5005 clapping for you big time mate lol
This woman is complicit. She may been well spoken and intelligent but she’s as crazy as Lori and Chad.
Yes she’s a nutcase
Right, why did she continue to talk to her after the zombies were brought up?
Wouldn’t say that she’s intelligent, lol. Educated, yes. Articulate, maybe. Not intelligent
Yep, if she would have shared Lori's Zombie comment about her son with the mental health people she could have saved their lives.
I get such a weird feeling listening to her. I'm not buying it, she's lying about a lot, mixing it in with some truths.
Nate Easton is such a phenomenal journalist & interviewer. It would have been very easy for him to pin her down, twist her words, try to trip her up but instead he just focused on getting all the info he could from MG without attacking her or pushing her. He asked reasonable, relevant, pertinent questions & directed the conversation to gain as much info as possible while never once judging MG or trying to influence the direction the interview went. That's not easy to accomplish. There is no bias in his interview. He gave her the benefit of the doubt at every turn. Whether she deserved it or not is another matter. But he did a phenomenal job
There is something very very wrong with this woman and her circle of friends.
Watch the 1975 movie "Race With The Devil" with Peter Fonda and Warren Oates. It should send chills down your spine, in light of what is currently going on.
Mormons
Yes this woman is a calm and composed deceiving spirit. She doesn't even know that the Devil is residing inside her beautiful body. Nutcase.
Duh!! They're obviously all zombies now.
mumbai jaan so true!
Chad Daybell is another Jim Jones.
Yep or the branch davidions
Charles Manson is more like it. EVIL
@Andrew Jones LOL
Wasn’t Chad a little worried if he fell out of favor with Lori, that he would be next? How long did he think this was going to last? Insurance fraud, social security fraud and a little killing...
C C no. Jj murdered over a thousand people.
Those children were murdered just as all the other people “in the way” were.
Yes the kids maybe dead the way Lori is acting they maybe gone
The scary thing is, that if she let Kay take JJ, They would've got away with EVERYTHING!! 😔
But she feels so sorry for Lori cuz she's in jail . Doesn't mention kids .
My jaw hit the floor when her brothers autopsy came back that he died from natural causes. But he was a murdered for her so I guess she might not want him dead.
All this for sex? Boggles the mind.
Melanie probably was on their " to do" list!
Agreed. When she wouldn't lie about JJ's whereabouts for them, she was probably put on the list to "pass away".