That transition where "Mells" throws the Tardis sculpture and it transitions to the real Tardis failing is my favorite transition in any Doctor Who episode, heck maybe even all of TV.
From "The Impossible Astronaut/Day of the Moon"-- "The Legs, the Nose, ...and *Mrs. Robinson.* " This episode: "Hello, *Benjamin.* " Both are references to the film (and novel), The Graduate.
You have to also love the hidden joke behind those references, in that the Doctor is actually much, much older than River would ever be, negating the whole point of the reference in the first place. :D The best hidden joke in visual media is, of course, that Louis Tully, despite being the Keymaster of Gozer, was forever locking himself out of his own apartment. :P
Underrated moment in this is Mels saying “Oh come on, it’s got to be you two!?” because it implies Melody never knew who her father was growing up. Imagining her growing up alongside Amy this whole time trying to guess who her father might be is both funny and kinda sad. I loved Mels, I also wish we had gotten more of her. It would have been great if she was in Series 5 but clearly Moffat hadn’t thought this far ahead on this one occasion 😅.
Melody is born in episode 7, before being kidnapped and taken to the orphanage in the opening episodes. She escapes the spacesuit and regenerates into Mels. She then spends years looking for Amy and Rory, leading into this story.
@@dupersuper1938Mel’s says the last time she regenerated she was in the middle of New York which I believe was supposed to have been the scene we saw the child regenerate in so she must have aged slowly.
@@tempusspiritusnothing says she couldn't have regenerated once or twice since the 60s. She would have had to spend some time building up resources and connections just to be able to make it to England as a child. And unfortunately, in the 60s and 70s, that would have been extremely difficult for a black or mixed child.
Though, let's be honest, that one is a little awkward given the timeline she'd have to go through remaining a little girl until she found her parents (by a few decades). The way I headcanon it, is that River is the 4th regeneration. The little girl in the alley into someone else, then a few years before she found her parents, she regenerated again into Mels, still in New York
The little girl was River at an even earlier age than Mels. Remember, Mels mentions about how the last time she regenerated she was a little girl in the middle of New York. That was after Amy had shot her in Florida while she was in the space suit. The Silence had already begun (possibly completed) her training and programming to search for, and kill, the Doctor. As always, River is meeting the Doctor (plus Amy & Rory) out of order. Moffat really leaned in to the Time Travel aspect of Doctor Who and obviously wanted to explore how confusing it is likely to end up being if a group of travelers are not meeting in the "right order", something the show has never previously shown. I really like how he does this. Prior to his involvement, the show was always depicting characters as meeting in the "proper sequence of events", but realistically if time travel is involved that isn't necessarily the case, or even the most likely case. Prior to Moffat, the show runners ignored this obvious question to make things easier for the viewers, missing out on exploring a truly interesting element to time travel.
The glasses thing... Glasses may need to be removed for some reason to protect the identity of of the teselecta until it can complete its mission. Thus, using existing glasses would make more sense. This is likely the same concept as to why they originally used a bike instead of creating one.
We've seen River pilot the Tardis _way_ better than the Doctor ever has. At one point she says she learned from the best and that it wasn't the Doctor because he was sleeping that day (or something to that effect). That day is today and her teacher was the Tardis itself.
pretty sure he whispers "I love her" when he ask to Melody to say something from him to River. Because during all the episod, she's teased by this name "River" in the mouth of the Doctor. She even says "oh River river river. More than a friend I think". She's stung by this woman. So, if he said "tell her I love her", her answer "Oh, I'm sure she knows" sound right. Of course in her mind River would know that the Doctor (who's always talking about her) loves her.
Moffat is very make things up as he goes along. But I just wish wish wish wish that he’d got the Mels thing sorted out from the beginning as imagine what a reveal it would have been if she was mentioned or shown just as a tiny tiny background character in the eleventh hour or any episode at all in series 5 set in present day and then turns out to be riversong in this episode. It would have blown my mind. It just feels like cheating when he shoe horns her into Amy and Rory’s life in 5 minutes of this episode and then does a ‘big reveal’
I've never felt that way about it, however... I'd say that's a valid criticism. There's two basic ways to write, and that is as a "plotter" or a "pantser". A plotter of course plots out the details of a story beforehand. A person who writes "by the seat of their pants" just makes it up as they go along. Both approaches can result in amazing stories, but sometimes pantser stories can get muddled, or they miss out on certain opportunities (your criticism being a prime example). So yeah, I do agree if it had been plotted the reveal would have had a MUCH bigger impact.
@@osanneart9318 Does it? Feels like it’s pretty sensible that she’d have been warned as part of her training/indoctrination by the Silence to avoid any run-ins with the Doctor until the point in her parent’s timeline where she’s been born, or risk a huge paradox. When that circle has closed, she can intervene and try to assassinate the Doctor, which is what we saw play out here.
But she restarted the universe her parents also weren't there until they were and then she remembered them entirely, the memory mel been taken be the crack
Into another toddler who then grows up to be Mels, I just have no clue how she gets from New York to England and how she has any idea who her parents are
@@obiwankenobi687Melody knows that Amy is her mother, as she has a photo of her in the bedroom in the orphanage in Day of the Moon. Melody is also eavesdropping on the TARDIS team when they get to the orphanage to find that Amy is gone, so she definitely heard Amy’s name. She regenerates in 1970, so she’s got over 20 years to get to England to find them. My own head canon is that older Amy and Rory trapped in New York found her and helped her get to Leadworth.
@@obiwankenobi687 No, it had to be someone different for DECADES before the toddler, as she'd have to keep using her regeneration energy to survive as said toddler th entire time (as she currently does not have a time machine). She could have known when her parents were born. Then waited those decades, and finally regenerated into a toddler while still in New York (likely knowing her she got into trouble just before she was set to fly or sail the pond), just days before leaving.
@@j.rileyindependentproductions it’s the same kid she regenerates into at the end of the day of the moon. She says it here ‘last time I did this I ended up a toddler in the middle of new York’ The girl from the spacesuit starts regenerating at the end of day of the moon and turns into a toddler. That toddler then becomes Mel’s. That was in the indication otherwise she wouldn’t have said that Timelords have different lifespans, take longer to age. So Mel’s could have done the full school years looking like a kid and aged herself up a bit to look like a teen. No idea. but the point being made in the episode is that she has only regenerated once before becoming river
Every time. Every time I hear those two words....for years now...have always made my heart literally stop and miss a beat. And Alex Kingston says them so well, doesn't she. 😉😊
God im yapping so much but also the "I might take the age down a little, just gradually, to freak people out."line is just a clever joke to "explain" why in the appearances where she's supposed to be "older" she looks "younger" (cause Alex Kingston was younger)
"Hello Benjamin" is a reference to the movie The Graduate where an older woman (Mrs Robinson) seduces a much younger man named Benjamin. Its a follow up to the joke the Doctor first made in Nixon's White House when he introduced his "operatives" Amy, Rory & River as "The Legs, the Nose & Mrs Robinson." Fun fact, this is the "Mrs Robinson" from the Simon & Garfunkel song "And heres to you Mrs Robinson, Jesus loves you more you will know. Ho, ho, ho...
In my opinion, this episode is an example of what happens when there's too much Steven Moffat. It's genius in many places, the story is very original and mind-blowing, but you need to watch it multiple times to get everything, and the episode kind of loses cohesion after the initial scenes. It literally feels like his genius went so high up it overflowed into negative numbers. He is still doing his thing, there's just too much of his thing. Anyway, the commitment to lead the story towards this over multiple seasons, giving hints and references all the time without most people realizing, that was amazing.
fun story. love this episode. always funny how you cant connect the dots. funny time travel. wouldn't it blow your mind to have your kid time travel just to be you at the same age and be friends with,
Whisper Whisper maybe what no- body knows. Who would know something secret maybe? You should know who the little girl is and show tells you episode 1 with Matt Smith ! Amelia Pond is Amy Pond. Or do you mean the back alley with the little girl regeneration, thats River after escaping the space suit. She travels through time with a time manipulation device looks like a 70's wrist watch. A time lord or the child of the TARDIS has no control of regenerations, once it starts, you get what you're given. Yep Hitler is still in the cupboard lol.. In the language of the forest there are no Ponds and so translates to River ( Demons Run ). Because Amelia always hangs out with mom and dad they sort of bought her up. Hence why Amy names her baby after her daughter best friend totally tmey- wimey.. 😂😂😢
Rory & Amy were looking for the Doctor, in the beginning (the car and the Crop Circles), because they wanted to know if he had found Melody. The confusing part is that it was River that brought them back from Demons Run. So that had only happened a few months before the Crop Circles. AND at that point they were already best friends with Melody. Just imagine if River had met Mel when she returned them home. Also it would make perfect sense that the Silence would want Melody to hang around Amy & Rory because what other way could they be sure that she could meet the Doctor
Ah this episode, Mel watching over Amy and Rory, the changes, Melody/River's intro, however many regens/planning by Madam Carvarium, ah the Tessalector. Ah yes. It is that sort of day. Regeneration mid transition. Voice interface for sure but still getting through to things. Planned day must happen like episode 1. The Doctor can't find out now not yet. Yes not a species like the Slitheen being family name but instead a moment. His name of other ca tors about him series/season. You'd think re poisoning him, but ah none of her regenerations. Then again poison on lips that only work on others is always silly. Yep Doctor finding out things, and her finding him a number of times and of course but how it counts a killing him but of course that's later of course not here and documenting it as such. As if the puzzle pieces aren't there. It is complicated because of episode to episode how it plays out but it makes total sense and the finale. Who is regenerating as a kid, in a space suit, what changes at the finale of course and if we get a Doctor regeneration or not, the teselctor of course because well we have to have something that cool and useful in the finale for possibilities, eventually Melody taken by someone after birth , a flesh fake, brainwashed and trained to beat the doctor. Oh right Melody/River. It's really not that complicated after saying it out loud. But that's because you have seen the show, so wouldn't say spoilers otherwise. But it takes a bit to put the pieces together at this stage because of Rivet changing early on and the Tesselector getting introduced. Yeah a lot to understand, more questions and less about the historical figure. Feels like the library episode so focused on River and a bit of other things. Yeah a long kept secret as a friend watching over them. The Doctor lies too again. What a metaphor XD
From what we've seen so this isn't spoilers, in order, the baby went straight into training and into thr space suit where amy tries to shoot her, she breaks out the space suit, escapes, lives homeless in America where she dies of starvation and regenerates into mel where she then turns to river, the little girl in the space suit wasnt the one who shot to doctor you are yet to find that out, hope this helps.. if you see it 😂
This was the episode I saw promos for…but missed the airing and the entire back half of this season. I had only had BBCA just recently at the time. I officially jump on at the start of 7
25:13 When a Time Lord has just regenerated a bit of that energy is still around them. Here Melody Pond uses some of her fresh Regeneration power to revive the Doctor thus cheating Death. 26:%4 Whovian Answers will come and there will always ALWAYS be Questions with those Answers even on Doctor 15.
Регенерацией управлять невозможно. Точнее можно задать общее направление, сосредоточится на пол или цвет. Но даже так не факт что получишь желаемое. Были случаи когда Повелители Времени даже расу меняли или пол (с мужчины на женщину и наоборот). Были и случаи когда сохранялось индивидуальная черта, например тату. Был такой Повелитель, во всех жизнях имел тату что передавалось. Галифрейцы и сами так и не раскрыли этот секрет, но есть мнение что оно не совсем случайное, оно даёт тебе то лицо которое тебе нужно или скоро понабиться. Кстати говоря лицо я имею ввиду не само лицо а личность. Однажды Доктор задастся этим вопросом "Почему это лицо?"
When I was 17 (the year I became a Whovian), I imagined my favorite trio plus River Song, to be in _this world_ and save Anne Frank and her family from Hitler's *reign of terror!* 😂 Not only that, but I also had other time traveling ideas for them as well! Such as: Columbine 1999 Massacre Abraham Lincoln Assassination Anne Frank (of course 🤦♀️🤣) Twin Towers aka World Trade Center Bible times & A LOT of others! 😁
Most of those would likely be classed as fixed points in time, sadly. The Doctor has to be very careful when it comes to human history because, as we saw in Waters of Mars, changing one thing could affect the spread of humanity throughout the universe.
@@gestaltdude Yeah I know. I came to realize _that_ few days after that thinking. But keep in mind, I was *NEW* to Doctor Who at 17 and hardly ever knew any of it when it came to further study it more. So, in other words, I didn't know FULLY of what the show was all about other than, the time traveling theme.
@@RedPandaGirl002 I've been watching this show literally for as long as I can remember, and I'm in my early 50's. :D With that established, even I get confused sometimes, so don't sweat it.
So how did young Melody get from Florida to the streets of New York to regenerate into Mels? And then get to England to be a school friend of Amy/Rory?
The Silence had been on the planet, building a network of tunnels under the whole planet as mentioned by Rory in Day of the Moon, so getting the primary weapon from one continent to the other would likely have not been very difficult for them.
The Silence. Where better to plant your assassin than as the best friend of two people that you know the Doctor is definitely going to be coming into contact with? Presumably with strict instructions not to strike until you’ve been born in your parent’s timeline. Which is what we see play out in this episode. The assassination attempt almost succeeds too.
Sometimes UA-cam bots automatically take videos down for silly reasons. There is a growing list of words said or written that UA-camrs have to be careful about.
That transition where "Mells" throws the Tardis sculpture and it transitions to the real Tardis failing is my favorite transition in any Doctor Who episode, heck maybe even all of TV.
From "The Impossible Astronaut/Day of the Moon"-- "The Legs, the Nose, ...and *Mrs. Robinson.* "
This episode: "Hello, *Benjamin.* "
Both are references to the film (and novel), The Graduate.
@@kivimik Yes, Thank You. After all "Premonitions is memory backwards", or something like that.
You have to also love the hidden joke behind those references, in that the Doctor is actually much, much older than River would ever be, negating the whole point of the reference in the first place. :D The best hidden joke in visual media is, of course, that Louis Tully, despite being the Keymaster of Gozer, was forever locking himself out of his own apartment. :P
@@zvimur Premonitions, it's like remembering but backwards. so, close enough.
Underrated moment in this is Mels saying “Oh come on, it’s got to be you two!?” because it implies Melody never knew who her father was growing up. Imagining her growing up alongside Amy this whole time trying to guess who her father might be is both funny and kinda sad. I loved Mels, I also wish we had gotten more of her. It would have been great if she was in Series 5 but clearly Moffat hadn’t thought this far ahead on this one occasion 😅.
Melody is born in episode 7, before being kidnapped and taken to the orphanage in the opening episodes. She escapes the spacesuit and regenerates into Mels. She then spends years looking for Amy and Rory, leading into this story.
Unless 'Time Lords mature VERY slowly, there was another regeneration between her first body and Mels.
@@dupersuper1938Mel’s says the last time she regenerated she was in the middle of New York which I believe was supposed to have been the scene we saw the child regenerate in so she must have aged slowly.
@@tempusspiritusnothing says she couldn't have regenerated once or twice since the 60s. She would have had to spend some time building up resources and connections just to be able to make it to England as a child. And unfortunately, in the 60s and 70s, that would have been extremely difficult for a black or mixed child.
The little girl was River (atleast her original incarnation) she then regenerated into Mels (off-screen).
Though, let's be honest, that one is a little awkward given the timeline she'd have to go through remaining a little girl until she found her parents (by a few decades). The way I headcanon it, is that River is the 4th regeneration. The little girl in the alley into someone else, then a few years before she found her parents, she regenerated again into Mels, still in New York
The little girl was River at an even earlier age than Mels. Remember, Mels mentions about how the last time she regenerated she was a little girl in the middle of New York. That was after Amy had shot her in Florida while she was in the space suit. The Silence had already begun (possibly completed) her training and programming to search for, and kill, the Doctor.
As always, River is meeting the Doctor (plus Amy & Rory) out of order. Moffat really leaned in to the Time Travel aspect of Doctor Who and obviously wanted to explore how confusing it is likely to end up being if a group of travelers are not meeting in the "right order", something the show has never previously shown. I really like how he does this. Prior to his involvement, the show was always depicting characters as meeting in the "proper sequence of events", but realistically if time travel is involved that isn't necessarily the case, or even the most likely case. Prior to Moffat, the show runners ignored this obvious question to make things easier for the viewers, missing out on exploring a truly interesting element to time travel.
The glasses thing... Glasses may need to be removed for some reason to protect the identity of of the teselecta until it can complete its mission. Thus, using existing glasses would make more sense. This is likely the same concept as to why they originally used a bike instead of creating one.
We've seen River pilot the Tardis _way_ better than the Doctor ever has. At one point she says she learned from the best and that it wasn't the Doctor because he was sleeping that day (or something to that effect). That day is today and her teacher was the Tardis itself.
Putting Hitler in the cupboard is still hilarious 😅
love when you ask if they RAISE melody... i mean technically 🤣
pretty sure he whispers "I love her" when he ask to Melody to say something from him to River. Because during all the episod, she's teased by this name "River" in the mouth of the Doctor. She even says "oh River river river. More than a friend I think". She's stung by this woman. So, if he said "tell her I love her", her answer "Oh, I'm sure she knows" sound right. Of course in her mind River would know that the Doctor (who's always talking about her) loves her.
Matt and Alex are a blast. They were having so much fun at a con and doing random poses for everyone.
Rory had his Captain America punches Hitler moment from the cover of Captain America number one. (1941)
A pity Clara wasn't there to see it, if you know what I mean. :D
Moffat is very make things up as he goes along. But I just wish wish wish wish that he’d got the Mels thing sorted out from the beginning as imagine what a reveal it would have been if she was mentioned or shown just as a tiny tiny background character in the eleventh hour or any episode at all in series 5 set in present day and then turns out to be riversong in this episode. It would have blown my mind. It just feels like cheating when he shoe horns her into Amy and Rory’s life in 5 minutes of this episode and then does a ‘big reveal’
exactly this. the fact she wasn't even at the wedding really hurts believability
Timey Wimey wibbly wabbey universe got reset anyways reasons.
I've never felt that way about it, however... I'd say that's a valid criticism. There's two basic ways to write, and that is as a "plotter" or a "pantser". A plotter of course plots out the details of a story beforehand. A person who writes "by the seat of their pants" just makes it up as they go along. Both approaches can result in amazing stories, but sometimes pantser stories can get muddled, or they miss out on certain opportunities (your criticism being a prime example). So yeah, I do agree if it had been plotted the reveal would have had a MUCH bigger impact.
@@osanneart9318 Does it? Feels like it’s pretty sensible that she’d have been warned as part of her training/indoctrination by the Silence to avoid any run-ins with the Doctor until the point in her parent’s timeline where she’s been born, or risk a huge paradox.
When that circle has closed, she can intervene and try to assassinate the Doctor, which is what we saw play out here.
But she restarted the universe her parents also weren't there until they were and then she remembered them entirely, the memory mel been taken be the crack
15:39, at the end of "Day of the moon", we see little Melody about to regenerate into....😮
Into another toddler who then grows up to be Mels, I just have no clue how she gets from New York to England and how she has any idea who her parents are
@obiwankenobi687 Mmm, agents of Silence? They're Time Travellers, after all. I think.
@@obiwankenobi687Melody knows that Amy is her mother, as she has a photo of her in the bedroom in the orphanage in Day of the Moon. Melody is also eavesdropping on the TARDIS team when they get to the orphanage to find that Amy is gone, so she definitely heard Amy’s name. She regenerates in 1970, so she’s got over 20 years to get to England to find them. My own head canon is that older Amy and Rory trapped in New York found her and helped her get to Leadworth.
@@obiwankenobi687 No, it had to be someone different for DECADES before the toddler, as she'd have to keep using her regeneration energy to survive as said toddler th entire time (as she currently does not have a time machine). She could have known when her parents were born. Then waited those decades, and finally regenerated into a toddler while still in New York (likely knowing her she got into trouble just before she was set to fly or sail the pond), just days before leaving.
@@j.rileyindependentproductions it’s the same kid she regenerates into at the end of the day of the moon. She says it here ‘last time I did this I ended up a toddler in the middle of new York’
The girl from the spacesuit starts regenerating at the end of day of the moon and turns into a toddler. That toddler then becomes Mel’s. That was in the indication otherwise she wouldn’t have said that
Timelords have different lifespans, take longer to age. So Mel’s could have done the full school years looking like a kid and aged herself up a bit to look like a teen. No idea. but the point being made in the episode is that she has only regenerated once before becoming river
13:10 "Hello Benjamin" is a reference to the movie "The Graduate"
Every time. Every time I hear those two words....for years now...have always made my heart literally stop and miss a beat.
And Alex Kingston says them so well, doesn't she. 😉😊
"Can you ride a motorcycle?"
"I expect so. It's that kind of day."
They told you exactly who the little girl is.
Well River has a vortex manipulator also she has a tendency to steal the TARDIS when the Doctor isn’t looking. That’s how she time travels
Who is the little girl? "The first time I did this I was a toddler in New York". Melody was the little girl.
:) Looking back, the clues are pretty obvious, but when it first came out I was blown away with the twist. :)
"Regeneration disabled" cause he's out of them
😱 i never realised that before 🤦♀️always thought it was the poison River used 😮
Spoilers I don't think that's known
@@swanchamp5136 She's up to date on patreon. It's noted at the start of each video.
God im yapping so much but also the "I might take the age down a little, just gradually, to freak people out."line is just a clever joke to "explain" why in the appearances where she's supposed to be "older" she looks "younger" (cause Alex Kingston was younger)
Also yes, the saint john ambulance sticker is a motiff in some classical and nu who TARDIS exteriors
The bells of St John
"Hello Benjamin" is a reference to the movie The Graduate where an older woman (Mrs Robinson) seduces a much younger man named Benjamin. Its a follow up to the joke the Doctor first made in Nixon's White House when he introduced his "operatives" Amy, Rory & River as "The Legs, the Nose & Mrs Robinson." Fun fact, this is the "Mrs Robinson" from the Simon & Garfunkel song "And heres to you Mrs Robinson, Jesus loves you more you will know. Ho, ho, ho...
I do wish that Mel were in earlier episodes, so the big reveal would be a massive shock.
One thing about this show is that there are always little details you need to remember.
I'm so excited that you are within two years of watching all 1K eps!!!!! AMAZING!!!!
Thanks, Britany! ⏳ Wild, right? So much greatness yet to come.
Time Lords can, to some degree, control who they regenerate into.
I always like to go back and rewatch one of the earliest River episodes after seeing these two episodes.
1:16 timey-wimey is the word you’re looking for. 😂
In my opinion, this episode is an example of what happens when there's too much Steven Moffat. It's genius in many places, the story is very original and mind-blowing, but you need to watch it multiple times to get everything, and the episode kind of loses cohesion after the initial scenes. It literally feels like his genius went so high up it overflowed into negative numbers. He is still doing his thing, there's just too much of his thing.
Anyway, the commitment to lead the story towards this over multiple seasons, giving hints and references all the time without most people realizing, that was amazing.
fun story. love this episode. always funny how you cant connect the dots. funny time travel. wouldn't it blow your mind to have your kid time travel just to be you at the same age and be friends with,
Whisper Whisper maybe what no- body knows. Who would know something secret maybe?
You should know who the little girl is and show tells you episode 1 with Matt Smith ! Amelia Pond is Amy Pond. Or do you mean the back alley with the little girl regeneration, thats River after escaping the space suit.
She travels through time with a time manipulation device looks like a 70's wrist watch.
A time lord or the child of the TARDIS has no control of regenerations, once it starts, you get what you're given.
Yep Hitler is still in the cupboard lol..
In the language of the forest there are no Ponds and so translates to River ( Demons Run ). Because Amelia always hangs out with mom and dad they sort of bought her up. Hence why Amy names her baby after her daughter best friend totally tmey- wimey.. 😂😂😢
Rory & Amy were looking for the Doctor, in the beginning (the car and the Crop Circles), because they wanted to know if he had found Melody. The confusing part is that it was River that brought them back from Demons Run. So that had only happened a few months before the Crop Circles. AND at that point they were already best friends with Melody. Just imagine if River had met Mel when she returned them home. Also it would make perfect sense that the Silence would want Melody to hang around Amy & Rory because what other way could they be sure that she could meet the Doctor
Ah this episode, Mel watching over Amy and Rory, the changes, Melody/River's intro, however many regens/planning by Madam Carvarium, ah the Tessalector.
Ah yes. It is that sort of day. Regeneration mid transition.
Voice interface for sure but still getting through to things.
Planned day must happen like episode 1.
The Doctor can't find out now not yet.
Yes not a species like the Slitheen being family name but instead a moment. His name of other ca tors about him series/season.
You'd think re poisoning him, but ah none of her regenerations. Then again poison on lips that only work on others is always silly.
Yep Doctor finding out things, and her finding him a number of times and of course but how it counts a killing him but of course that's later of course not here and documenting it as such.
As if the puzzle pieces aren't there. It is complicated because of episode to episode how it plays out but it makes total sense and the finale.
Who is regenerating as a kid, in a space suit, what changes at the finale of course and if we get a Doctor regeneration or not, the teselctor of course because well we have to have something that cool and useful in the finale for possibilities, eventually Melody taken by someone after birth , a flesh fake, brainwashed and trained to beat the doctor. Oh right Melody/River. It's really not that complicated after saying it out loud.
But that's because you have seen the show, so wouldn't say spoilers otherwise. But it takes a bit to put the pieces together at this stage because of Rivet changing early on and the Tesselector getting introduced.
Yeah a lot to understand, more questions and less about the historical figure.
Feels like the library episode so focused on River and a bit of other things.
Yeah a long kept secret as a friend watching over them.
The Doctor lies too again.
What a metaphor XD
From what we've seen so this isn't spoilers, in order, the baby went straight into training and into thr space suit where amy tries to shoot her, she breaks out the space suit, escapes, lives homeless in America where she dies of starvation and regenerates into mel where she then turns to river, the little girl in the space suit wasnt the one who shot to doctor you are yet to find that out, hope this helps.. if you see it 😂
Rory did a lit of punching 😂
This was the episode I saw promos for…but missed the airing and the entire back half of this season. I had only had BBCA just recently at the time. I officially jump on at the start of 7
25:13 When a Time Lord has just regenerated a bit of that energy is still around them. Here Melody Pond uses some of her fresh Regeneration power to revive the Doctor thus cheating Death. 26:%4 Whovian Answers will come and there will always ALWAYS be Questions with those Answers even on Doctor 15.
Регенерацией управлять невозможно. Точнее можно задать общее направление, сосредоточится на пол или цвет. Но даже так не факт что получишь желаемое. Были случаи когда Повелители Времени даже расу меняли или пол (с мужчины на женщину и наоборот). Были и случаи когда сохранялось индивидуальная черта, например тату. Был такой Повелитель, во всех жизнях имел тату что передавалось. Галифрейцы и сами так и не раскрыли этот секрет, но есть мнение что оно не совсем случайное, оно даёт тебе то лицо которое тебе нужно или скоро понабиться. Кстати говоря лицо я имею ввиду не само лицо а личность. Однажды Доктор задастся этим вопросом "Почему это лицо?"
I love this episode
You're overthinking it.
When I was 17 (the year I became a Whovian), I imagined my favorite trio plus River Song, to be in _this world_ and save Anne Frank and her family from Hitler's *reign of terror!* 😂
Not only that, but I also had other time traveling ideas for them as well! Such as:
Columbine 1999 Massacre
Abraham Lincoln Assassination
Anne Frank (of course 🤦♀️🤣)
Twin Towers aka World Trade Center
Bible times
& A LOT of others! 😁
Most of those would likely be classed as fixed points in time, sadly. The Doctor has to be very careful when it comes to human history because, as we saw in Waters of Mars, changing one thing could affect the spread of humanity throughout the universe.
@@gestaltdude Yeah I know. I came to realize _that_ few days after that thinking. But keep in mind, I was *NEW* to Doctor Who at 17 and hardly ever knew any of it when it came to further study it more.
So, in other words, I didn't know FULLY of what the show was all about other than, the time traveling theme.
@@RedPandaGirl002 I've been watching this show literally for as long as I can remember, and I'm in my early 50's. :D With that established, even I get confused sometimes, so don't sweat it.
So good. No other words.
it’s been a year since you watched the pilot for good omens. are you ever going to continue it?
So how did young Melody get from Florida to the streets of New York to regenerate into Mels? And then get to England to be a school friend of Amy/Rory?
The Silence had been on the planet, building a network of tunnels under the whole planet as mentioned by Rory in Day of the Moon, so getting the primary weapon from one continent to the other would likely have not been very difficult for them.
The Silence. Where better to plant your assassin than as the best friend of two people that you know the Doctor is definitely going to be coming into contact with? Presumably with strict instructions not to strike until you’ve been born in your parent’s timeline. Which is what we see play out in this episode.
The assassination attempt almost succeeds too.
why censor let's kill hitler, it's the name of the title
Sometimes UA-cam bots automatically take videos down for silly reasons. There is a growing list of words said or written that UA-camrs have to be careful about.
@@MalcolmWolf youtube is just stupid, its literally the title. and Hitler is history we need to openly learn and talk about not be censored.
21:13 why ask in such a long-winded way?
If you want to learn more about the doctor, you need to watch classic who. You also said the name of one of my least favorite companions...Rose.
I have been reacting to Classic Who over on Patreon. I'll be starting season 12 this weekend.