You can actually see the two of them jumping into the boat in the James Cameron movie as well, at the very same second Rose jumps BACK onto the ship to reunite with Jack. I always thought this one bit was a truly fascinating example of how Cameron tried to honor the historicity of the film, intertwining it with the dramatic effect of fiction. Granted, the two guys who jump in don't necessarily look like first-class passengers, but still, I'm inclined to think the scene is an homage to Woolner and Steffansson's story.
I went back and looked and you are right! I never noticed that before and honestly now that I think about it Rose was in collapsible D. Even Ismay got into collapsible C in the movie. This is never mentioned in the film but now that I think about it, James Cameron even got that detail right. Its amazing how many historically accurate things cameron did in that film that are easy to overlook if you arnt careful.
I have something to add, also in James Cameron film during the same scene when both men jumped into Collapsible D. If you look carefully, you can also see a man or someone fell into the water below the lifeboat. After some research, there is another first class passenger name Frederick Maxfield Hoyt, who jumped into the water after Collapsible D with his wife (Jane Hoyt) is lowered or being lowered and survived the sinking by being pulled into Collapsible D. Another accurate side detail if you ask me
Just watched the clip it took me some time to find the exact moment I’m really surprised how accurate the film was in its execution of the story of the titanic
There’s a lot of really accurate background details in Titanic. Which makes me even more mad he butchered the legacies of men like First Officer William Murdoch, Bruce Ismay, and Captain Edward Smith with myths, half trues, and outright lies.
People like to criticize that Cameron decided to include fictional characters, but I think it was a smart move. Rose and Jack give us a fixed point of view that enables us to immerse ourselves into the story, while also giving an excuse to explore the whole ship and the whole sinking. Rose gives us insight into the first class, while Jack gives us insight into the third class and their shenanigans give us insight into the areas of the ship that weren't accessible to passengers. Sure, they could have just focused on several real characters, but I think that would feel more like a documentary and thanks to Rose and Jack, these different perspectives are connected.
Charles Lightoller strikes me as a brave man, but he also strikes me as the sort of man who'd work in the local town hall with a rubber stamp and a rule book, issuing fines because your hedge was 3 inches too tall.
My favorite Titanic story came from A Night to Remember. A passenger on the Carpathia is woken with the news that his niece wants to see him. He is nonplussed because he knew that the niece and her sisters were on the Titanic. There was a family reunion on the way to New York.
It occurs to me that on the Olympic, the ship Captain Smith would have been much more familiar with than the Titanic, the A-deck Promenade was open all the way. I guess in the stress of the situation, he fell back on what he knew and just... forgot about that design difference.
Can I just say, I loved that you paused in your video to show us you looking up when lifeboat 6 left :) Thank you for sharing this amazing survival story. Fantastic job, Sam!
@@HistoricTravels That was so adorable when you plopped your book down to look it up. I giggled. Thank you for sharing this video. I'm so glad that these men got onto the lifeboat.
@@HistoricTravels I think this would be a cool thing to do again every now and then. I know it takes a bit more work setting up the extra shots. But that was a really satisfying sequence to watch! :-) loved the extra bit of info. Really cool!
My boys were excited to see a new video but I told them they have to wait till after school since this aired right as they were getting ready to board the school bus. They love your videos and are obsessed with Titanic and ships now. I am going to Vegas in November and while at the Luxor plan on going to the exhibit to bring them both a Titanic souvenir
@@HistoricTravels they call you the “Titanic Guy” 😊 they’d probably be subscribers if they were old enough to have YT accounts. Keep up the good work, our entire family loves Historic Travels and we look forward to your new videos. ☺️
Great story. I am norwegan,and have heard that the grandfather of my moms frend did something simular to escape titanic. His sure name was bratthammer,and he was in 3 clas. He jumped down in a lifeboat when it was lowering down the ships side
This is terrific, Sam. By the way regarding Hugh Woolner having to tell Captain Smith about the enclosures / glass windows of the promenade deck, EJ Smith may have had a moment where he was confused as to which ship he was on! The Olympic, the sister ship of the Titanic, did not have enclosures on her promenade deck -- that was seen as a recent improvement when the Titanic was being "fitted out." [Note: I am not sure if Olympic had those windows installed later in her career? ] Captain Smith, as the former master of the Olympic and so very well experienced with that vessel, may have had that moment of confusion. I recall reading this in one of Walter Lord's books. So very fortuitous that Woolner felt the courage to remind the Captain of the existence of those windows. Saved a lot of time and probably saved lives. Best to you!
The funny part is, when I saw the title I said “Psh, who is this with this BLATANT lie & clickbait…OOH Historic Travels?! It has to have some teeth to it then” *click* That’s definitely a testament to the quality & work you put in to make sure you’re historically factual. Thank you for what you do.
As far as I am concerned Lightoller is responsible for many people needlessly dying by sending these boats partially empty rather than letting men on board when there were no more women and children available close by, there was even one story where he tried to prevent a 13 year old boy from getting on...if there is an empty seat, fill that spot with whomever is there to take it. They were all passengers and his responsibility to fill those seats with a passenger, if women and children were not there, then save ANY life.
There are probably hundreds of similar stories we will never know, friends, family, colleagues and crew working together, trying their absolute best to escape, and not making it.
When the ship was sinking it didn't know class. The classes combined and that's why in the boats you see them sharing in the movie and on the Carpathia they probably stuck together as they survived. Class meant nothing to a sinking ship, a ship didn't know money. In the movie roses mother learned a lesson class meant nothing but it was too late
Captain Smith must have been in shock to direct passengers to the A Deck Promenade; he was likely thinking of the Olympic, whose Promenade is not enclosed.
I know most of the stories you tell. But you tell them so well and seem extremly likeable. Thanks for taking the time for doing these videos. Only started watching 2 days ago but can't stop watching your videos.
Well done Sam...Well done...just keep doing your research and sharing with us. It is amazing to think that if they had not escaped we would have never known the bravery of Ida and Isadore Strauss.
I keep on thinking someone needs to give Sam a PhD on maritime disaster history and give him a studio with actors and CGI to reenact some of these events.
Here's a little known fact about Mr. Steffansson: After the sinking of Titanic, in early 1913, Steffansson filed the largest claim for financial compensation made against the White Star Line for the loss of a single item of luggage or cargo as a result from the disaster. The item turned out to be the oil painting of the La Cirassinne au Bain, a large neoclassical oil painting by French painter Merry-Joseph Blondel, to which Steffansson demanded $100,000, equivalent to $2.6 million in today's money. Unfortunately, he didn't get the financial compensation, and all cases against the White Star Line were settled for a combined amount of $644,000
Research brian clark and stanley praimnath who survived 911. They were above the impact zone of flight 175. They were strangers at the time. Their survival story is one of the best ones of that tragic day
I respect Lightoller's convictions of women and children only, however, not only did they not get anywhere close to getting all the women and children into the boats, but the result of this choice was SO MANY empty seats in those lifeboats. Better a man fill those seats than nobody! wtf! needless amount of lives lost here.
When I was a young lad .All I wanted was a mate to chat with about the Titanic .Sam you are that friend .That you can come and listen to, and chat about the Titanic .Many thanks from London UK .
I also heard, regarding Isadore and Ida Strauss, that Ida also turned to her maid, who was standing nearby, and asked her to board lifeboat 8, and that she told the same story about the Strausses.
Hey sam, got an idea, what about a video on the Mackay-Bennett, the ship that recovered the bodies from the titanic wreck site? There must be some stories to come from that ship...
Wow so glad you found the story and let us know. Hey please keep looking for any new stories and let us know. So nice too to have that Titantic model to show us more!
Stories about individuals on titanic are fascinating. Thanks Sam 👍. Would love to see you do one on a man named Charles Melville Hays. He was president of the GTR. My knowledge on him is somewhat limited. You have a fantastic ability to tell the stories and find the information.
Hi Sam recommendation for a vid you should watch it’s called the Lusitania Song idk if you would like it but your the first person in mind when I heard that song
I find this ironic that fate chose Lightholler, who, let;'s be honest here, is responsible for more deaths due to his stupidity than even Smith, to survive the sinking
Great video! Incredible story, thank got they made it out just in time… nice to hear these positive stories as well 🙏 crazy escape, right place at the right time in the Nick of time
I can't imagine in this late of the sinking that Collapsible D has that many empty seats. You see this time and time again: some people acquiesce to their fate while others persevere to the last. It really seems like those are the ones that made it.
Very late but I made a little brief visit in the live chat. Such a great and interesting story about the men! I think this is one of my favourite Titanic survival stories so far 🙂
Hi Sam, I'm new to your channel. Wow,xi can't believe just how lucky those two friends were to escape the Titanic. That was very, very close. And for Lightoller to think about getting those two men to leave that lifeboat ? Really ? Maybe it was a good thing that those two friends left when they did. Things might have been different if they escaped on an earlier lifeboat.
I have a question for you. In James Cameron's movie Titanic, Captain Smith calls back lifeboat number 6 to come back to the ship. Was that bc he wanted to put more people in that lifeboat ? And if so , how would they have done that ? The boat was already in the water. It's just something I was thinking about.
@@marshamcdevitt3089 They would have hoisted the boat back up, cause the lifeboats were meant 2 evacuate the passengers 2 another ship, not float on open sea!
Those guys were both lucky and smart! About Lightoller: I know he did a lot of good things to help people that night and he ultimately did let those two guys go, but I'll never be able to give him a complete pass. You're really going to separate families and leave them shattered, all because you think men are cowards for not wanting to die on this doomed ship? come on, dude! I'm not saying he deserved to die, no one did, of course. However, it kind of annoys me a little bit that Lightoller survived, I can't lie.
To be fair, he did kind of make up for that in WW2, when he went across the channel at Dunkirk in his own boat, and saved quite a few soldiers with Luftwaffe planes flying overhead. Still, I agree with what you said, but that’s just the way it was back then
@@TheSuperSaiyan4Gamer , Lightoller misheard due to the loud steam being released plus Captain Smith being in shock and not reiterating, "Women and children, FIRST"
To be fair… in an emergency situation like this, I don’t think breaking the windows would be out of the question. Ideally prior to the boats being lowered but even worst case scenario, some glass in the lifeboats is better than drowning or hypothermia
It's not so much the issue of the glass on the boat, but the timing to do it. This is marine controlled glass, designed to take a pounding from the ocean, meaning it's very difficult to break effectively. The officers would've have to break the initial glass, make a hole large enough to fit a human with a large lifebelt, and proceed to fill the lifeboat with people. That's too much time lost for what could be done just one deck above.
Hi Sam! This is my first time commenting and I gotta tell you how much I love your videos! I credit my newfound interest in the sinking of the Titanic entirely to the videos you make on it. I also have an idea for an upcoming video. What do you think would’ve happened if the Titanic sunk during the day instead of at night? Do you think more people would have survived? Would help be more easily accessible to the ship? Would the water not have been as freezing? Keep up with the amazing content!
Good Vid! There is another version out there of these two men's departure from the Titanic. I believe I read somewhere that Capt. Smith fed them the information to drop down from the boat deck and "see if there isn't a boat down there" Smith told them that, knowing full well D was being sent down. I don't think they walked down the A deck from stern to bow....they simply went down the stairwell from the boat deck and waiting for D to be lowered right in front of them.....and they jumped in.
I just can’t imagine being in a lifeboat and hearing all the screams and just knowing you couldn’t go back and help anyone . I bet passengers lived with that for years afterwards . Horrible all the way around
Very nice. Hope you are getting some royalties from the sales of On a sea of glass. I bought it because of your videos and loved it. Would you know how to contact the authors. I think I found some typos on it. Thanks!!
Indeed the man on watch could smell ice, but sadly that night there was no wind. so he didnt notice the pungent smell off ice that was in the air until it was to late.
Why are you always so hard on Lightoller? Don't forget you're viewing the sinking with the comfort of hindsight of over a century. Sure some of his decisions don't make sense to us but there's medical evidence that people in the midst of a traumatic event, don't always act rationally. Sometimes the shock they're experiencing means their decision making ability is compromised. Cut the guy some slack.
Please make a video on the great lakes cement carrier S.T. Crapo (Cray-poe) she's one of the oldest lake freighters still in service (as a storage barge) on the lakes, she's a very rare ship now because she's the only one I can name that might still have her original 1927 triple expansion reciprocating engine in her and she has a chance of being saved from the cutter's torch when her time as a barge in Green Bay, Wisconsin is up.
Hi Sam. Did you ever hear about the Mesaba File or Mesaba Message sent to the Titanic warning about icebergs, before she struck the berg? Maybe you already made a video about that, but in case not, I think it might be interesting
Cool 4th wall break with Lifeboat #6 blooper, very cool save.
Yea
yea
You can actually see the two of them jumping into the boat in the James Cameron movie as well, at the very same second Rose jumps BACK onto the ship to reunite with Jack. I always thought this one bit was a truly fascinating example of how Cameron tried to honor the historicity of the film, intertwining it with the dramatic effect of fiction. Granted, the two guys who jump in don't necessarily look like first-class passengers, but still, I'm inclined to think the scene is an homage to Woolner and Steffansson's story.
I went back and looked and you are right! I never noticed that before and honestly now that I think about it Rose was in collapsible D. Even Ismay got into collapsible C in the movie. This is never mentioned in the film but now that I think about it, James Cameron even got that detail right. Its amazing how many historically accurate things cameron did in that film that are easy to overlook if you arnt careful.
I have something to add, also in James Cameron film during the same scene when both men jumped into Collapsible D. If you look carefully, you can also see a man or someone fell into the water below the lifeboat. After some research, there is another first class passenger name Frederick Maxfield Hoyt, who jumped into the water after Collapsible D with his wife (Jane Hoyt) is lowered or being lowered and survived the sinking by being pulled into Collapsible D. Another accurate side detail if you ask me
Just watched the clip it took me some time to find the exact moment I’m really surprised how accurate the film was in its execution of the story of the titanic
There’s a lot of really accurate background details in Titanic. Which makes me even more mad he butchered the legacies of men like First Officer William Murdoch, Bruce Ismay, and Captain Edward Smith with myths, half trues, and outright lies.
People like to criticize that Cameron decided to include fictional characters, but I think it was a smart move. Rose and Jack give us a fixed point of view that enables us to immerse ourselves into the story, while also giving an excuse to explore the whole ship and the whole sinking. Rose gives us insight into the first class, while Jack gives us insight into the third class and their shenanigans give us insight into the areas of the ship that weren't accessible to passengers. Sure, they could have just focused on several real characters, but I think that would feel more like a documentary and thanks to Rose and Jack, these different perspectives are connected.
Charles Lightoller strikes me as a brave man, but he also strikes me as the sort of man who'd work in the local town hall with a rubber stamp and a rule book, issuing fines because your hedge was 3 inches too tall.
More like 3 mm too tall to be more accurate.
I heard that lol
Has anyone checked the family tree to find out if he is related to Barney Fife?
Lightoller was by the book. Just like the sailors on the Californian.
@@HappyRoach1 excuse me absolutely not
My favorite Titanic story came from A Night to Remember. A passenger on the Carpathia is woken with the news that his niece wants to see him. He is nonplussed because he knew that the niece and her sisters were on the Titanic. There was a family reunion on the way to New York.
It occurs to me that on the Olympic, the ship Captain Smith would have been much more familiar with than the Titanic, the A-deck Promenade was open all the way. I guess in the stress of the situation, he fell back on what he knew and just... forgot about that design difference.
Can I just say, I loved that you paused in your video to show us you looking up when lifeboat 6 left :) Thank you for sharing this amazing survival story.
Fantastic job, Sam!
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for your support, its means more than you know!
@@HistoricTravels That was so adorable when you plopped your book down to look it up. I giggled. Thank you for sharing this video. I'm so glad that these men got onto the lifeboat.
@@HistoricTravels I think this would be a cool thing to do again every now and then. I know it takes a bit more work setting up the extra shots. But that was a really satisfying sequence to watch! :-) loved the extra bit of info. Really cool!
My boys were excited to see a new video but I told them they have to wait till after school since this aired right as they were getting ready to board the school bus. They love your videos and are obsessed with Titanic and ships now. I am going to Vegas in November and while at the Luxor plan on going to the exhibit to bring them both a Titanic souvenir
That is awesome! I am glad they like my content! Means a lot
@@HistoricTravels they call you the “Titanic Guy” 😊 they’d probably be subscribers if they were old enough to have YT accounts.
Keep up the good work, our entire family loves Historic Travels and we look forward to your new videos. ☺️
Great story. I am norwegan,and have heard that the grandfather of my moms frend did something simular to escape titanic. His sure name was bratthammer,and he was in 3 clas. He jumped down in a lifeboat when it was lowering down the ships side
14:51 OH HE RAGED AGAIN Add this to your compilation if you are doing one!
Sam, this one is a classic. I often wondered how the Strauss conversation was preserved. Then there is the whole survival account.
Great job, man!
I assumed it was a one of the sailors at the lifeboats who reported the Strauss conversation.
This is terrific, Sam. By the way regarding Hugh Woolner having to tell Captain Smith about the enclosures / glass windows of the promenade deck, EJ Smith may have had a moment where he was confused as to which ship he was on! The Olympic, the sister ship of the Titanic, did not have enclosures on her promenade deck -- that was seen as a recent improvement when the Titanic was being "fitted out." [Note: I am not sure if Olympic had those windows installed later in her career? ] Captain Smith, as the former master of the Olympic and so very well experienced with that vessel, may have had that moment of confusion. I recall reading this in one of Walter Lord's books. So very fortuitous that Woolner felt the courage to remind the Captain of the existence of those windows. Saved a lot of time and probably saved lives. Best to you!
The funny part is, when I saw the title I said “Psh, who is this with this BLATANT lie & clickbait…OOH Historic Travels?! It has to have some teeth to it then” *click*
That’s definitely a testament to the quality & work you put in to make sure you’re historically factual. Thank you for what you do.
As far as I am concerned Lightoller is responsible for many people needlessly dying by sending these boats partially empty rather than letting men on board when there were no more women and children available close by, there was even one story where he tried to prevent a 13 year old boy from getting on...if there is an empty seat, fill that spot with whomever is there to take it. They were all passengers and his responsibility to fill those seats with a passenger, if women and children were not there, then save ANY life.
There are probably hundreds of similar stories we will never know, friends, family, colleagues and crew working together, trying their absolute best to escape, and not making it.
When the ship was sinking it didn't know class. The classes combined and that's why in the boats you see them sharing in the movie and on the Carpathia they probably stuck together as they survived. Class meant nothing to a sinking ship, a ship didn't know money.
In the movie roses mother learned a lesson class meant nothing but it was too late
Captain Smith must have been in shock to direct passengers to the A Deck Promenade; he was likely thinking of the Olympic, whose Promenade is not enclosed.
That's exactly what it was.
7:31 I was expecting this to go full HowToBasic.
You are the first person to catch that reference
Well done
Thanks for this story.
Your “rages” are fun and real.
Well-explained Sam. I always liked that little detail in the HFX animation!
~Mike
Thanks man! I have seen your channel! You do great work!
@@HistoricTravels Too kind Sam! Collab when!? Haha :)
omg its bicheal brady from bocean binre besigns
"YOU men, get out of that boat!"
"OK Karen"
Hahaha.nice!
Excuse me I am not a karen lol
@@2ndofficercharleslightolle878 sure sure sure
@Raymond i heard that
I know most of the stories you tell. But you tell them so well and seem extremly likeable. Thanks for taking the time for doing these videos. Only started watching 2 days ago but can't stop watching your videos.
Well done Sam...Well done...just keep doing your research and sharing with us. It is amazing to think that if they had not escaped we would have never known the bravery of Ida and Isadore Strauss.
I keep on thinking someone needs to give Sam a PhD on maritime disaster history and give him a studio with actors and CGI to reenact some of these events.
thank you for all the cool videos!!!
Here's a little known fact about Mr. Steffansson: After the sinking of Titanic, in early 1913, Steffansson filed the largest claim for financial compensation made against the White Star Line for the loss of a single item of luggage or cargo as a result from the disaster.
The item turned out to be the oil painting of the La Cirassinne au Bain, a large neoclassical oil painting by French painter Merry-Joseph Blondel, to which Steffansson demanded $100,000, equivalent to $2.6 million in today's money. Unfortunately, he didn't get the financial compensation, and all cases against the White Star Line were settled for a combined amount of $644,000
I really enjoy your enthusiastic videos.
I love it when you have an onscreen rant… great vid!
Fascinating story, Sam! I've never heard it before. Can't believe these two gentlemen were able to survive the sinking!
Of all the titanic channels, this one is the best for these lesser known stories. I love hearing about individual peoples experiences.
Research brian clark and stanley praimnath who survived 911. They were above the impact zone of flight 175. They were strangers at the time. Their survival story is one of the best ones of that tragic day
I would not be suprised if Sam came out as a time traveler and was on Titanic and that is why he knows so much about it.
Hahaha yep and he saw lightoller doing that
Maybe Sam is the re-incarnation of a Titanic passenger who survived the sinking but passed away on the Carpathia.
@@stevencooper2464 yeah maybr
There is a brief scene/shot of the two men in the 1997 movie when Rose jumps back into the ship.
Hi Sam, great video!!
I respect Lightoller's convictions of women and children only, however, not only did they not get anywhere close to getting all the women and children into the boats, but the result of this choice was SO MANY empty seats in those lifeboats. Better a man fill those seats than nobody! wtf! needless amount of lives lost here.
When I was a young lad .All I wanted was a mate to chat with about the Titanic .Sam you are that friend .That you can come and listen to, and chat about the Titanic .Many thanks from London UK .
Great video thanks! May I ask where you got the Titantic model?
I also heard, regarding Isadore and Ida Strauss, that Ida also turned to her maid, who was standing nearby, and asked her to board lifeboat 8, and that she told the same story about the Strausses.
Awesome story Sam. Loved it. 👍🏼😎
Hey sam, got an idea, what about a video on the Mackay-Bennett, the ship that recovered the bodies from the titanic wreck site?
There must be some stories to come from that ship...
Wow so glad you found the story and let us know. Hey please keep looking for any new stories and let us know. So nice too to have that Titantic model to show us more!
These 2 men were smart. They identified the issue, looked around and figured out the best method to escape.
My god. Your videos are just pure GOLD & i watched them many times before.
What a great story, and you told it so well. Even though I knew they were going to survive, I was still holding my breath throughout the video.
Hey Sam great video!!! Also Video Idea:USS Johnston. It is the deepest shipwreck in the world! Also, great and interesting video over these two men!
Love your videos.
Great video! Also I loved it when you busted out the book.
HAHAHA I like Sam's little blooper with the book checking the time boat #6 left the ship. Too bad it wasn't a lamp though 😄😆😂🤣
Another great story, thanks Sam 👍
Thanks for this!!! A friend of mine played Isador Strauss just recently! I must share this with him!
Thats awesome!!! Played him in what if you dont mind me asking?
@@HistoricTravels TITANIC the Musical at a local live theater production.
What an amazing story! Thanks so much and keep up the great work. Love your videos!
Love your videos man
Another amazing video Sam,I can't wait for your next video
Thanks for another great video
Stories about individuals on titanic are fascinating. Thanks Sam 👍. Would love to see you do one on a man named Charles Melville Hays. He was president of the GTR. My knowledge on him is somewhat limited. You have a fantastic ability to tell the stories and find the information.
Great story!!
Another great video, and that I was not aware of these two passengers. Thanks.
Great video. I am always interested in videos about the Titanic. These gentleman were lucky they got off.
I love the information you find can I ask where did you find that he was about to order them to get out of collapsable D
I’ve heard of that a bit. Your model of Titanic is really amazing!
Love your videos ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Again, an interesting video! Can't wait for your upcoming videos! Keep up with the great work 😁
Great video! Very interesting! Loved the use of On a sea of glass haha.
This channel absolutely slaps. Love niche youtube. Where else can you get this much history and content outside of a book
Historic travels is the only UA-camr that I know that thanks his new subscribers every video.
Hi Sam recommendation for a vid you should watch it’s called the Lusitania Song idk if you would like it but your the first person in mind when I heard that song
Possibly the last survivors off the ship. Wow, right place at the right time for sure!
I find this ironic that fate chose Lightholler, who, let;'s be honest here, is responsible for more deaths due to his stupidity than even Smith, to survive the sinking
Oweee i am not stupid lol the captain said women and children only
@2and officer Charles Lightoller, the order was "Women and children FIRST" not only.
Hahahahahahaha I am so glad I found these comments hahahahahahaha
@@GordonMBSC2009 it was womem and children only the captain made his orders clear
@@2ndofficercharleslightolle878 Sauce?
I love your titanic vids plz keep them up
Great video! Incredible story, thank got they made it out just in time… nice to hear these positive stories as well 🙏 crazy escape, right place at the right time in the Nick of time
I can't imagine in this late of the sinking that Collapsible D has that many empty seats. You see this time and time again: some people acquiesce to their fate while others persevere to the last. It really seems like those are the ones that made it.
to be fair, they were just in the right place at right moment, they casually saw the boat. Not many had the same opportunity, sadly.
NO COLAPSABLE D WAS LOADED TO CAPACITY THATS WHY EDITH EVANS GAVE HER SEAT TO A FRIEND
Great story, thanks......
Amazing that the Captain actually gave good advice on going below to board a lifeboat. That's exactly how they did it too!
Good morning!!
Other people testified about hearing that conversation among the Strous's but nevertheless, great content I actually learn things I didn't know 👍
Thank you for this fact! Badass video
You have quite a few more subs than when I first joined, I think you had 19k when I subbed good to see you getting more that’s awesome
Very late but I made a little brief visit in the live chat. Such a great and interesting story about the men! I think this is one of my favourite Titanic survival stories so far 🙂
Dang that was a close call!
Love your channel friend
Hi Sam, I'm new to your channel. Wow,xi can't believe just how lucky those two friends were to escape the Titanic. That was very, very close. And for Lightoller to think about getting those two men to leave that lifeboat ? Really ? Maybe it was a good thing that those two friends left when they did. Things might have been different if they escaped on an earlier lifeboat.
Welcome aboard, glad you liked my videos!
I have a question for you. In James Cameron's movie Titanic, Captain Smith calls back lifeboat number 6 to come back to the ship. Was that bc he wanted to put more people in that lifeboat ? And if so , how would they have done that ? The boat was already in the water. It's just something I was thinking about.
@@marshamcdevitt3089 They would have hoisted the boat back up, cause the lifeboats were meant 2 evacuate the passengers 2 another ship, not float on open sea!
7:31 someone's been playing LA Noire
Those guys were both lucky and smart! About Lightoller: I know he did a lot of good things to help people that night and he ultimately did let those two guys go, but I'll never be able to give him a complete pass. You're really going to separate families and leave them shattered, all because you think men are cowards for not wanting to die on this doomed ship? come on, dude! I'm not saying he deserved to die, no one did, of course. However, it kind of annoys me a little bit that Lightoller survived, I can't lie.
To be fair, he did kind of make up for that in WW2, when he went across the channel at Dunkirk in his own boat, and saved quite a few soldiers with Luftwaffe planes flying overhead. Still, I agree with what you said, but that’s just the way it was back then
Comon you do know the captains orders
@@2ndofficercharleslightolle878 I believe the captains orders were women and children FIRST, not women and children ONLY, Mr Lightoller. Lol
@@TheSuperSaiyan4Gamer one its mr charles lightoller and 2 its women and children ONLY
@@TheSuperSaiyan4Gamer , Lightoller misheard due to the loud steam being released plus Captain Smith being in shock and not reiterating, "Women and children, FIRST"
Where did you get your little titanic model?
H & G's website!
To be fair… in an emergency situation like this, I don’t think breaking the windows would be out of the question. Ideally prior to the boats being lowered but even worst case scenario, some glass in the lifeboats is better than drowning or hypothermia
It's not so much the issue of the glass on the boat, but the timing to do it.
This is marine controlled glass, designed to take a pounding from the ocean, meaning it's very difficult to break effectively. The officers would've have to break the initial glass, make a hole large enough to fit a human with a large lifebelt, and proceed to fill the lifeboat with people. That's too much time lost for what could be done just one deck above.
@@dan_38 , so that explains why a lot of the glass on the wreck of Titanic is still intact on the wreck.
Incredible story!
Hi Sam! This is my first time commenting and I gotta tell you how much I love your videos! I credit my newfound interest in the sinking of the Titanic entirely to the videos you make on it.
I also have an idea for an upcoming video. What do you think would’ve happened if the Titanic sunk during the day instead of at night? Do you think more people would have survived? Would help be more easily accessible to the ship? Would the water not have been as freezing?
Keep up with the amazing content!
I will never understand why they didn't fill the lifeboats to full capacity!
The 1st lifeboats weren't full because it was hard 2 convince passengers the Ship was actually sinking!
You are single handedly responsible for selling probably 10,000 copies of "On a Sea of Glass".
At least you're responsible for selling one (mine).
hahaha nice
2, I bought one as well !😉
I bought one too!
I got one for my 30th birthday in February. It’s a good book. Was hard to find but worth it
@@HistoricTravels Well to be honest, you’re the reason I found out about the book and bought it for my birthday two weeks ago. Thanks Sam!
Good Vid! There is another version out there of these two men's departure from the Titanic. I believe I read somewhere that Capt. Smith fed them the information to drop down from the boat deck and "see if there isn't a boat down there" Smith told them that, knowing full well D was being sent down. I don't think they walked down the A deck from stern to bow....they simply went down the stairwell from the boat deck and waiting for D to be lowered right in front of them.....and they jumped in.
I wonder why almost no one jumped from boat deck into the water near just lowered lifeboat to be pulled in and saved
You could be injured jumping from high up, and then you'd be in wet freezing clothes!
@@trevorbluesquirrel899 but you will survive lol
It’s crazy how we’re still learning new things about titanic over 100 years later.
Another Idea:What happend to the other ships that is in distress call with titanic when it was sinking
I just can’t imagine being in a lifeboat and hearing all the screams and just knowing you couldn’t go back and help anyone . I bet passengers lived with that for years afterwards . Horrible all the way around
Also I love how he slammed the boook down 📙💣🧨
7:27 Sam's brain: C'mon Sam YOU GOTTA REMEMBER! THESE PEOPLE LOOK UP TO U ASTHE GOD OF ALL TITANIC KNOWLEDGE!!!!!
WALTER LORD HAS THAT TITLE
Very nice. Hope you are getting some royalties from the sales of On a sea of glass. I bought it because of your videos and loved it. Would you know how to contact the authors. I think I found some typos on it. Thanks!!
I went on a whole journey to find a copy and finally found one with the help of a librarian friend. It was rough but worth it!
@@brigeem5022 i really enjoyed it! I was even macabre enough to take it with me and read it on a cruise!
@@alejandrobonofiglio1097 You are living the dream! Hope to take mine on a cruise soon
Indeed the man on watch could smell ice, but sadly that night there was no wind. so he didnt notice the pungent smell off ice that was in the air until it was to late.
Why are you always so hard on Lightoller? Don't forget you're viewing the sinking with the comfort of hindsight of over a century. Sure some of his decisions don't make sense to us but there's medical evidence that people in the midst of a traumatic event, don't always act rationally. Sometimes the shock they're experiencing means their decision making ability is compromised. Cut the guy some slack.
Are you getting a LEGO Titanic I really think you should it looks so awesome
Please make a video on the great lakes cement carrier S.T. Crapo (Cray-poe) she's one of the oldest lake freighters still in service (as a storage barge) on the lakes, she's a very rare ship now because she's the only one I can name that might still have her original 1927 triple expansion reciprocating engine in her and she has a chance of being saved from the cutter's torch when her time as a barge in Green Bay, Wisconsin is up.
When comes Britannic video s
Hi Sam. Did you ever hear about the Mesaba File or Mesaba Message sent to the Titanic warning about icebergs, before she struck the berg? Maybe you already made a video about that, but in case not, I think it might be interesting
What time zone was the RMS Titanic in when she sank on April 15th, 1912 at 02:20 hours?