A New Twist On Fog Sudoku For Boxing Day

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  • @ryanoftinellb
    @ryanoftinellb 19 годин тому +38

    The perfect example of how a FoW puzzle can act as a tutorial for a new ruleset. Very nice!

  • @dralthoff1
    @dralthoff1 22 години тому +121

    @ the 39 minutes, SImon says "don't forget the negative constraint". Two minutes later Simon forgets the negative constraint on the 7 clue. These guys are so cute with their little mistakes. And by cute I literally mean adorable! It's like the CtC team jinx themselves.

    • @medhurstt
      @medhurstt 21 годину тому +5

      This puzzle is very linear. It was inevitable the next step was going to be as a result of the last digits placed but Simon didn't really focus on them. There was also a sudoku implication of the 3 placed at the top with the 23 pair he'd identified.

    • @medhurstt
      @medhurstt 21 годину тому +1

      Haha..I see he saw the sudoku 3 and 23 implication moments after I made that comment :-)

    • @Samhain_III
      @Samhain_III 21 годину тому +3

      A few minutes later he counts the cells and comments on the negative constraint for the first cell in the row,without noticing the 5 until a bit later. This is why I love watching CtC 😅

    • @ryboits75
      @ryboits75 11 годин тому +2

      Mark has started putting kings chess pieces on his table to remind him of the rules

    • @alanclarke4646
      @alanclarke4646 8 годин тому +1

      ​@@medhurstt He ALWAYS spots the whatever about 10 seconds after I comment that he missed it!

  • @sigawof
    @sigawof 21 годину тому +22

    Finished in 26:05 minutes, one of the rare times I'm faster than the professionals! Nice Christmas present to myself 😁

    • @asktheraccoon
      @asktheraccoon 16 годин тому

      that's also one of the rare times you need to do actual Sudoku to progress and well, definitely not this channel's professionals strongest suit haha

  • @sebastienlecoq3956
    @sebastienlecoq3956 5 годин тому +3

    Awsome ruleset. I can see the power of it way beyond sudoku.
    Simon early : there is a sort of negative constraint
    Simon later : it's not the negative constraint....
    except it is.

  • @martysears
    @martysears 21 годину тому +28

    An absolute beauty, definitely one of the best dynamic fog puzzles I’ve seen so far. Excellent escalation of the ruleset and journey you’re taken on with perfect choices of fog clearance throughout

  • @Andyw83
    @Andyw83 2 години тому +1

    I love Simon. He is the most brilliant solver but absolutely amazes me at 42:57 when he asks about the negative constraints and counts right past 5 and concludes that 8 cannot go in box 4.

  • @Ferrastar
    @Ferrastar 18 годин тому +8

    Simon, for your Apple Watch, you’ve likely got it to mirror notifications from your phone and have notifications on for movement (stand, move etc) so you’ll probably need to go into the watch app on your phone and turn off a lot of the notifications

  • @MeriaDuck
    @MeriaDuck 21 годину тому +29

    The poor arrowed five in box six... My dog came asking me why I was frantically whispering to my screen again.

    • @PassionPopsicle
      @PassionPopsicle 12 годин тому +1

      Usually I post a timestamp for other fellow screamers for the point he fixes is - but in this one he just doesn't! Poor, poor little 5
      (edit: He doesn't even acknowledge it when he fills it in!! 😂)

    • @Andyw83
      @Andyw83 2 години тому

      Eh he solved it right at the start didn't he?

    • @slamcatX2
      @slamcatX2 Годину тому

      Yup, that poor 5, it was driving me mad. Possibly, he thought the 1 and 4 in the west direction solved it even though the arrow pointed east.

  • @raquelmoss7207
    @raquelmoss7207 20 годин тому +29

    I feel like you’ve been more diligent with your use of sudoku and pencil markings, and it makes things more enjoyable to watch. If you made a new years resolution to clean up your colouring more once it’s run its course, I would definitely support that.

  • @A_CC_K
    @A_CC_K 23 години тому +10

    Yes a fog of war puzzle. My favourite type of puzzle, made even more interesting with dynamic fog. Best way to spend an evening.

  • @kurtu5
    @kurtu5 21 годину тому +34

    I like how he troll us by counting 5 out loud. And mouse pausing on the 25 pair multiple times. Never change.

    • @Shcroft2
      @Shcroft2 21 годину тому +7

      @@kurtu5 Simon can finish puzzles I would never even dream of starting, he is an absolute master at this stuff... But him not seeing the five left me unreasonably frustrated. I'm going to put it down to a bit too much Christmas sherry 😅

    • @wordclover
      @wordclover 13 хвилин тому

      @kurtu5 It's vintage Simon - pointing out a bit of logic to his thousands of viewers and then instantly forgetting about it himself while he goes hunting for new tid-bits to tell us. 33:05 as solver #5000

  • @danielcummins5092
    @danielcummins5092 22 години тому +7

    At 20:45 in Simon's video - those two arrows in row 7 were my favorite clues to solve...the logic was very smooth and clever.

  • @PassionPopsicle
    @PassionPopsicle 12 годин тому +4

    I usually don't mind Simon's colouring. I've gotten used to it as a charming quirk. But on this one it gets really confusing around the 50:00 mark - the only relevant colouring is the blue (and black relating to it) but there are all sorts of other colours and flashes still in the way (and he was so diligent cleaning it up for the first part of the solve)

  • @adamheywood113
    @adamheywood113 18 годин тому +5

    Thank you Simon and Mark, and Sven of course, and all the testers and staff (you know who you are, even if I don't) and Happy Christmas to you all
    Easily one of the best channels on UA-cam

  • @gi0nbecell
    @gi0nbecell 22 години тому +26

    Simon‘s uncanny ability to immediately ignore any logic he‘s used once and his stubborn refusal to re-use that same logic even if it‘s screaming in his face (and he even hovers over it) never ceases to amaze me - not least because he‘s still so much better at solving any logic puzzle than I will likely ever become.
    But come on… around 44:30 he thinks about the negative constraint, counts the cells from the 7 clue in r6 and concludes (correctly, I might add) that r7c1 couldn‘t be 8 as it would break the 7 _and then refuses to realise that _*_this exact logic_*_ has removed 5 from r7c4 ages ago._ What?

    • @PassionPopsicle
      @PassionPopsicle 12 годин тому

      He even highlights the five while counting

  • @benjaminrealy5661
    @benjaminrealy5661 8 годин тому

    28:46. New favourite style of puzzle. Lots of maths and counter-maths. Kept my brain busy. 10/10

  • @stevenrburgoyne
    @stevenrburgoyne 11 годин тому

    Great video!
    Tip with the Apple watch, don't force it into your life. Let it slowly help with things otherwise you will hate it/find it useless. Start by having it be time and notifications only, then maybe if you are in the kitchen ask it to set a timer, or find a recipe. If you are out on a walk, after 10 minutes it will "ping" you to ask to record the walk. This data will get logged automatically. Try wearing it to sleep to track your sleep patterns. More and more it will assist with certain tasks but don't force it.

  • @chocolateboy300
    @chocolateboy300 12 годин тому

    I finished in 26:52 minutes. This was a really nice approachable fog of war sudoku. The dynamic fog was used nicely here to guide the way in what is a very cool ruleset. I dug this ruleset very much and look forward to it in the future. I think my favorite part was resolving the double arrow set in row 7. That was super fun to calculate and led to some nice deductions. As always, it feels good to beat Simon's time. Great Puzzle!

  • @strawberrymilk3695
    @strawberrymilk3695 21 годину тому +2

    25:59!! So proud of myself today, it was so much fun, thanks for the puzzle

  • @avishjha4030
    @avishjha4030 13 годин тому +4

    At 29:59, why can it not be 7 or 8? Since we know that green has to have 2, 8 not being possible makes sense as it would take the total to 10, but why 7 is not possible?

    • @levipickett497
      @levipickett497 10 годин тому +1

      7 is already constrained to row 7 in the 678 triple "by sudoku"

    • @sakka350
      @sakka350 9 годин тому

      Because 7 is in row 7 by the 678 triple.

    • @Cryobot
      @Cryobot 8 годин тому

      Because there's a 678 triple in R7 C7-9

  • @swaltner1234
    @swaltner1234 19 годин тому +2

    Apple Watch - Use Theater Mode
    To activate theater mode on the watch, press the button (not the Digital Crown) to bring up Control Center, activate the button with the comedy and tragedy masks (two faces). In this mode, all notifications are silenced and raise to wake is disabled to avoid interruptions in a dark room. You can still activate the watch by touching the screen.

  • @gregind01
    @gregind01 18 годин тому +1

    Simon's song is quickly becoming
    No christmas 3
    No christmas 3
    Where for (4) art thou corners?

  • @HunterJE
    @HunterJE 22 години тому +3

    22:21 Once it's identified that all four of those cells must contribute to one or the other arrow you can also immediately center pencil mark each cell down to two options, since each cell must be filled with its position vis a vis one arrow or the other...

    • @1985elfy
      @1985elfy 20 годин тому +1

      You can go further than that: there must be an inner sum and an outer sum. For each square the two pencil marks are n (pink) and n+1 (purple). Any pink cell rules out the possibility for the cell to its right to be purple, because they would be the same number. So it resolves entirely on its own without needing to refer to the 3 further up the grid.

  • @Foxyjosh
    @Foxyjosh 20 годин тому +2

    Best games of 2024? If Sudoku isn't on the list, the list is wrogn.

  • @MisterM2402
    @MisterM2402 22 години тому +4

    Solved in 20:56. Rules sound a bit confusing. I'm sure Mark did a puzzle with the hit-points rule recently and that was written more clearly. "[...] while every other digit in that cell would not" makes me think of a single cell with multiple digits in it but I'm guessing it just means if the 2 were replaced by a different digit.

    • @williammorris7279
      @williammorris7279 21 годину тому +1

      Yes, I would have preferred it to read "..... while any other digit in that cell would not." It didn't help me that the words Simon used when reading out the rules do not match the written words.

  • @thejuggler42
    @thejuggler42 19 годин тому +2

    Really lovely puzzle, well done Nurator :)

  • @piarittersporn
    @piarittersporn 7 годин тому

    Great puzzle. It took me a while to understand the rule completely but after watching Simon a few minutes I've got it.

  • @katiekawaii
    @katiekawaii 20 годин тому +1

    I loved that puzzle. Thanks, Nurator!

  • @hasui7610
    @hasui7610 20 годин тому +5

    Hope you had a great holiday!
    It's interesting how as a viewer I can sometimes see things you don't see yet. But somehow when I go solving on my own I just get fully stuck. Much respect for your sudoku skills!

  • @xerodeus2337
    @xerodeus2337 22 години тому +1

    00:31:55 solve time! This was a relatively fast one for me by my standards! Once I figured out how to visualize the way the arrows worked it started unfolding pretty quickly! Lovely puzzle!

  • @davidhughes7174
    @davidhughes7174 11 годин тому

    What a puzzle, beautiful. Thank you Simon.

  • @matthiasney4871
    @matthiasney4871 14 годин тому

    Everything in this solve was so beautifully simonish. Deleting the negative constraint colors in c9 (not consequently coloring the negative constraints would cost him later a couple of times), but keeping the colors in r7 for the rest of the puzzle even though they were only useful for a ten second logical deduction...

  • @shawnmichajluk2044
    @shawnmichajluk2044 17 годин тому

    Fantastic puzzle and rule! Important to remember that a correct number clears the fog from the cell (and possibly others). I kept going, then realized I made a mistake, and then realized that fog did not clear from the cells where I put in a number.

  • @Dasius2
    @Dasius2 8 годин тому

    I think this puzzle demonstrates how helpful the ability to put a red pencil mark in a cell would be. You could mark a negative constraint in red alongside some blue digits. That said, I wouldn't be surprised if that is possible already seeing how good the tool is already.

  • @praematura
    @praematura 17 годин тому

    I stumbled several times through this puzzle, but somehow managed to finish in 29:20 (conflict checker off), so I think I didn't do too bad! 😅 Definitely some obvious deductions I missed, but happy with the solve overall. Many thanks to Nurator for a wonderful puzzle!

  • @markp7262
    @markp7262 20 годин тому

    25:07 finish. A very nice ruleset, with some cool tricks you can use to solve. Excellent!

  • @chaseedwards7024
    @chaseedwards7024 19 годин тому

    I love the fog of war puzzles. Took me a little while to fully understand everything those arrows were telling me - that was a really fun puzzle. 54:54

  • @jimbothefuzzy
    @jimbothefuzzy 15 годин тому

    Seeing Simon get a news alert for the "20 Best Games of 2024" makes me think there needs to be a list of "25 Best Puzzles to Do in 2025." Which would be taken from some of the best puzzles that REALLY deserve more attention. Though I'd personally argue the Rat Run puzzles from Marty Sears deserve a spot on the list (though I'd just put the entire series as one entry, so as not to clutter the list), even though they're already very popular. Also, only giving it one slot means it automatically includes any additional puzzles Marty might add to that series in the future.
    I'm far from qualified to write that list. I don't have the time to solve enough puzzles. So I'll leave it to those who do have time. And I'll make sure to try at least some of them.

  • @kikania
    @kikania 19 годин тому

    I think this is the first time I was able to solve a puzzle faster than Simon (37:37)! Of course, he takes a long time to explain every of his steps in detail, but I am still proud :)

  • @stevenbetts666v2
    @stevenbetts666v2 23 години тому +2

    I hope you both had a good Christmas Simon and Mark! I spent the morning doing the puzzle I suspect we will all be seeing tomorrow!

  • @Entapris
    @Entapris 14 годин тому

    Great puzzle. Really enjoyed that one! 32 mins

  • @OlegHikaro
    @OlegHikaro 4 години тому

    First time I've tried solving one of these puzzles. Finished in 94 minutes, but Im proud of myself. That's a good mid level puzzle, good luck everyone

  • @ChicanoryIsMyName
    @ChicanoryIsMyName 16 годин тому

    I did fine after watching the rules. I'm glad he gave a good explanation.

  • @Armoterra
    @Armoterra 15 годин тому

    25:11 the one time we don’t want Simon doing sudoku, he goes and does sudoku.

  • @RianneOK
    @RianneOK 4 години тому

    Finished in 73:23! Loved this one. Only got stuck at one point and just started doing sudoku until I found the little thing that I missed that there was now only 1 place the 1 could go in box 5 and then I was rolling again because of all the pencilmarking I had done in the meantime. Super great. :D

  • @Vorash00
    @Vorash00 10 годин тому

    Dynamic fog forcing Simon to do sudoku in sudoku puzzles what an awful innovation to come to the world of variant sudoku. 😂 making us go back to basics! lol

  • @nilshubinette4932
    @nilshubinette4932 8 годин тому

    This is a lovely puzzle!

  • @jimlan2599
    @jimlan2599 20 годин тому

    Absolutely loved this puzzle!

  • @Xiuhtec
    @Xiuhtec 22 години тому

    31:19 solve for me, which I'm pretty proud of given my usual plodding. Fog is always great for knowing where to look next. Took me a few minutes to get the hang of how the arrow logic really worked but flowed very well once I did. Love the dynamic fog and what it allows to be done! (In this case the puzzle would work just as well without fog at all, but being shown exactly where to look when is so much nicer than having to guess or intuit.)

  • @petermawhorter9016
    @petermawhorter9016 18 годин тому

    Got this one in 01:38:42, which felt great after giving up on another from this channel several hours in. This rule was very heavy in terms of the constraints imposed.

  • @dennisb8332
    @dennisb8332 21 годину тому

    This one was "easy" compared to the others you usually solve, thank you for that! :) Took med 19min and 7 sec

  • @Timlagor
    @Timlagor 22 години тому

    Tricksy in parts but not too hard. Lovely.

  • @danielcummins5092
    @danielcummins5092 22 години тому +1

    This was very fun!! 00:40:31

  • @cenzuram5301
    @cenzuram5301 18 годин тому

    its first time, when i solve a puzzle faster then Simon)
    Hi from Poland/Belarus)

  • @srwapo
    @srwapo 20 годин тому

    23:55, these arrow sudokus usually cause me trouble, but this one just flowed. Good thing I remembered that for the three clues pointing down in row 1, they could only see one cell in each row total (one 1 in row 2, one 2 and row 3, etc).

  • @manudude02
    @manudude02 20 годин тому

    It was a smooth solve path for me, finished in 24:12

  • @mattconco
    @mattconco 19 годин тому

    "It's not the negative constraint is it?" Yes yes it is Simon... 😂

  • @grahamania
    @grahamania 22 години тому

    00:28:26 for me. Great puzzle! Loved how the arrows were set up to give limited options. Kind comment.

  • @diddlmus
    @diddlmus 22 години тому +1

    Its a Nice puzzle. Solved this Yesterday - I Think first time I have solved a puzzle, before its on this Channel

  • @andymoss
    @andymoss 20 годин тому +5

    24:09 Why on earth did Simon reapply the coloring here?!
    Edit to add: Loved the puzzle, hated the coloring. Please , please, please, please remove once it has served its purpose. Please.

    • @Ferrastar
      @Ferrastar 17 годин тому

      I was wondering the same, also noticed that when he ‘tidied up’ the pencil mark in row 2 he took out the 4 that was flashed as green. He might have noticed that it was no longer contributing if left in

    • @JohnDBlue
      @JohnDBlue 11 годин тому

      I thought I'd find a comment about that coloring but surprised it's not what I was thinking about...
      Now it irks me doubly 😅
      See my issue was the fact that Simon was referring to the dark pink as purple and the purple as blue

  • @aliengeo
    @aliengeo 15 годин тому

    Texas doesn't have a ton of mince pies, though I've had mincemeat before, but a family member has English expat neighbors so I did actually get to try some this year!

  • @whypick1_
    @whypick1_ 21 годину тому

    Solved in 23:21, but needed almost that long just to understand what the hell the the arrow rule meant.
    A possibly better description: For all cells that have an arrow in them, that cell's value is equal to the sum of all cells in the indicated direction(s) whose value N is also equal to the distance to the arrow cell.

  • @sjm6280
    @sjm6280 22 години тому +9

    Not removing colors when they had served their purpose made for a so "dirty" grid, specially in a fog of war puzzle

  • @mister-8658
    @mister-8658 21 годину тому +2

    My recommendation with most Apple products is to submerge them in acetone for at least 6 hours.

  • @werefrogofassyria6609
    @werefrogofassyria6609 19 годин тому

    love that rule set, took a bit to get used to it, though.

  • @adonnapryor5440
    @adonnapryor5440 19 годин тому

    Merry Christmas and Happy Boxing Day! This was a fun puzzle!

  • @romainbricout1713
    @romainbricout1713 16 годин тому

    I think it is the first ever featured sudoku I managed to solve! 39 minutes for me 😊

  • @piasecznik
    @piasecznik 21 годину тому +1

    After a brief false start because I assumed every arrow had to have a valid cell on it and then watching the rules section of the video, pretty easy going. 34:56, but I didn't restart the time, so probably closer to 25 minutes after I understood the rules.

    • @jimlan2599
      @jimlan2599 20 годин тому

      I made the same mistake at the beginning ...

  • @Coyotek4
    @Coyotek4 22 години тому

    16:19 ... I welcomed this respite
    Nice puzzle!

  • @kongking4868
    @kongking4868 5 годин тому

    46:39 took you long enough lol i actually fond myself talking to the screen, "its right there"

  • @Gonzalo_Garcia_
    @Gonzalo_Garcia_ 22 години тому +1

    15:57 for me. Very fun puzzle!!

  • @NewbStory
    @NewbStory 19 годин тому

    I'm not sure if this has happened to anyone else, but I was immediately stuck as I thought arrows were meant to be solved separately. So the very first cell shown (r3c7) was unsolvable. Glad Simon quickly showed it wasn't the case.

  • @leickrobinson5186
    @leickrobinson5186 23 години тому

    The ruleset combination was quite interesting. Fun puzzle! 37:56 for me. 😄

  • @thefallenarm589
    @thefallenarm589 19 годин тому

    Interesting rule ; puzzle ended quite simpler than what it looked at first.

  • @cozyvrc
    @cozyvrc 11 годин тому

    around 44:57 I was just as stuck as Simon but then I noticed that the fifth spot away from yellow couldn’t be 5 due to the negative constraint, I checked because of something he said funnily enough
    So for the first time I was just as stuck as Simon but figured it out before him
    Other times when I spot things before him it’s because I notice them as soon as they’re available but he gets distracted with other things and forgets to check
    I feel proud of myself for this one because I actually worked this one out while he was trying to

  • @Kinada
    @Kinada 14 годин тому

    Very fun puzzle.

  • @dolf370
    @dolf370 35 хвилин тому

    Fun puzzle. Did get a little bit wrong in the beginning as I didn't think arrows cculd be "emtpy" (contribute 0). As usual I did it in snail speed 1:27:43. But, whatever...

  • @kerogandhe3846
    @kerogandhe3846 21 годину тому

    ty for giving us this puzzle, it rly boosts my confidence solving this and I desperately need that

  • @GuardOfGaia
    @GuardOfGaia 6 годин тому

    One of the very few times I've beaten Simon's time albeit only by 3 minutes but as the negative constraint looked to be extremely important in this I limited colouring to marking off completed arrows.

  • @titusadduxas
    @titusadduxas 10 годин тому

    54:59 - Once I got my head round the rules it was great fun, though rather challenging with some new logic to work out.

  • @peterhaagen8506
    @peterhaagen8506 20 годин тому

    I had to watch half the puzzle to understand the rules😵‍💫. Not native speaking English. 😊. Now I know the rules and it’s fun. ❤

  • @johnathandoe6034
    @johnathandoe6034 21 годину тому

    We need to make a dynamic fog of war, where the top left square reveals the entire fog if you get it correct to troll the guess and checkers!

  • @Kirbyfan87827
    @Kirbyfan87827 21 годину тому

    Finished in 25:20 with help from the video.

  • @victorcarrasco4248
    @victorcarrasco4248 14 годин тому

    Oh Simon should set a ‘solve’ focus mode on his phone. That would solve the problem he mentioned during the rules section

  • @9MRSG
    @9MRSG 14 годин тому

    This was such a resistant fog

  • @林老師-i5d
    @林老師-i5d 16 годин тому

    broke once due to r6c1, rewind and finished in 37:11
    nice puzzle

  • @Cassiebsg2
    @Cassiebsg2 18 годин тому

    Lovely. :) Just for you Simon "Oh Christmas 3, oh Christmas 3, how elusive are you?" :D I know it doesn't rhyme, so maybe someone can make it better. :D

  • @LadyEmilyNyx
    @LadyEmilyNyx 4 години тому

    The nerve of them making sure you do your sudoku before you can continue :D

  • @Tepalus
    @Tepalus 18 годин тому

    26:18 for me :)
    Happy hollidays to you all⛄️🎄

  • @dominicsymes9189
    @dominicsymes9189 4 години тому

    Simon counting right past 5 in row 6 when thinking about the negative constraint 😅

  • @Jigkuro
    @Jigkuro 21 годину тому

    Done in 18:12 so yeh 2/5 sounds right. Now to yell at Simon, given the length...

  • @ThePolymathlete
    @ThePolymathlete 14 годин тому

    30 minutes here...easy but fun

  • @EkuuleusNorth
    @EkuuleusNorth 3 години тому

    Yay. Its been a very long time since my solve was faster. 23 minutes for this one. Reading thr comments, what negative constraint?

  • @Scott2148
    @Scott2148 16 годин тому

    87 mins while watching Smith move closer to 10000 runs.

  • @JohnPretty1
    @JohnPretty1 18 годин тому

    Loving this pseudoku, but having got about half way I am now stuck.

  • @markthompson2874
    @markthompson2874 22 години тому

    I like the ruleset and overall it was a fun puzzle. I think the one part that I disliked is that it seemed like it was stingy with revealing clues unless you solved every bit of Sudoku.

  • @asix6
    @asix6 18 годин тому

    How do i fix that: On my Android App the fog clears around the correct digit. not as intended.

  • @Harry-xu9vc
    @Harry-xu9vc 17 годин тому

    what's the difference between corner pencil marks and central ones?

    • @brianj959
      @brianj959 14 годин тому

      Well, they can be used however helps you to solve; but Simon uses them as:
      - corner pencil marks indicate where in that box a digit could go
      - central pencil marks indicate the complete set of possible digits remaining for that cell

  • @rK4n3
    @rK4n3 2 години тому

    I liked this puzzle a lot! But I got really confused at the beginning as the Android app doesn't handle dynamic fog correctly; it showed the 4-way arrow in r4c6 as its first reveal. I had to watch the video to realize I needed to play in the browser. Hopefully the app can get fixed at some point because i really enjoy the dynamic fog puzzles.

  • @Jox9
    @Jox9 22 години тому

    Does anyone know where he goes live at? Is it on this channel?