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At the 52.20 mark the scene is Jamaica Ave and 130th St. This actually in Richmond Hill, Queens 4 blocks frommy home around the corner of 126th St. Jamaica Ave. At the 5250,mark is Jamaica Ave and Metropolitan Ave intersection also in Richmond Hill. Except for those 2 mistakes it is great. Jamaica Ave was served by the Lexington Ave Main line el from Downtown Brooklyn and the Broadway Jamaica line from lower Manhattan via the Williamsburg Bridge to 168th Street terminal in Jamaica. The Lexington line went to the terminal in rush hours only 1918 til 1950.
The train shown at 51.03 is a B.M.T. el. I.R.T els had no center door. These trains ran from either Astoria or Willest Pt. to Queens Plaza, making connection with B.M.T. subway trains. They did not enter the tunnel at Main St. due to their hight. B.M.T subway cars were too wide to run to either Astoria or Flushing I.R.T. trackage. In 1949 station platforms along the Astoria Line were shaved to allow B.M.T. trains to operate there.
I suspect that the Q car rounding the curve west of Queensborough Plaza is a work train; and that this photo was taken in the late 1950s or later-hence the dropped clerestory roof. The IRT didn’t run wooden El cars underground, except for the short underground section of the 9th Ave. line east of Sedgwick Avenue.
Now I know why the streets in that area look the way they do. I used to work on Broad Street and was always fascinated with the layout. Thank you for a glimpse back in time of another part of New York history.
At ca. 50:47, I note a Q-type renovated BRT elevated car with lowered clerestory roof, operating on what is now the Flushing line, west of Queensboro Plaza. I also note the presence of both subway- and elevated-type third rails. The standard histories make no mention of wooden el cars operating into the IRT Queensboro subway, and thence through the Steinway Tunnels to Grand Central and Times Square, or of exposed el-type third rails on the IRT-Queensboro Like west of Queensboro Plaza. .Can anyone supply more information on this apparent anomaly?
If they would of definitely kept the Thrid Avenue and second Ave Elevated line up running they would of definitely use the 8 or the 10 trains to Queens plaza connecting to the 7 N W 11 trains today. I have a real spriital feeling they are definitely gonna bring back the 8 Thrid Avenue Elevated line back I tell you that right now.
They was a real serious talk bringing the 8 to New Lots Avenue and Wakefield 241street . Let the 3 trains go to Flatlands Ave and the 4 5 trains to Utica Avenue and New Lots Avenue Brooklyn.
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At the 52.20 mark the scene is Jamaica Ave and 130th St. This actually in Richmond Hill, Queens 4 blocks frommy home around the corner of 126th St. Jamaica Ave. At the 5250,mark is Jamaica Ave and Metropolitan Ave intersection also in Richmond Hill. Except for those 2 mistakes it is great. Jamaica Ave was served by the Lexington Ave Main line el from Downtown Brooklyn and the Broadway Jamaica line from lower Manhattan via the Williamsburg Bridge to 168th Street terminal in Jamaica. The Lexington line went to the terminal in rush hours only 1918 til 1950.
The train shown at 51.03 is a B.M.T. el. I.R.T els had no center door. These trains ran from either Astoria or Willest Pt. to Queens Plaza, making connection with B.M.T. subway trains. They did not enter the tunnel at Main St. due to their hight. B.M.T subway cars were too wide to run to either Astoria or Flushing I.R.T. trackage. In 1949 station platforms along the Astoria Line were shaved to allow B.M.T. trains to operate there.
I suspect that the Q car rounding the curve west of Queensborough Plaza is a work train; and that this photo was taken in the late 1950s or later-hence the dropped clerestory roof. The IRT didn’t run wooden El cars underground, except for the short underground section of the 9th Ave. line east of Sedgwick Avenue.
Incredibly thorough and fascinating history. Thank you for your meticulous research.
Now I know why the streets in that area look the way they do. I used to work on Broad Street and was always fascinated with the layout.
Thank you for a glimpse back in time of another part of New York history.
Good compilation and commitment to detail. No easy task.
These are amazing pictures! It would be more enjoyable if it could be presented in book form. Hopefully, there is a way.
At ca. 50:47, I note a Q-type renovated BRT elevated car with lowered clerestory roof, operating on what is now the Flushing line, west of Queensboro Plaza. I also note the presence of both subway- and elevated-type third rails. The standard histories make no mention of wooden el cars operating into the IRT Queensboro subway, and thence through the Steinway Tunnels to Grand Central and Times Square, or of exposed el-type third rails on the IRT-Queensboro Like west of Queensboro Plaza. .Can anyone supply more information on this apparent anomaly?
If they would of definitely kept the Thrid Avenue and second Ave Elevated line up running they would of definitely use the 8 or the 10 trains to Queens plaza connecting to the 7 N W 11 trains today. I have a real spriital feeling they are definitely gonna bring back the 8 Thrid Avenue Elevated line back I tell you that right now.
They was a real serious talk bringing the 8 to New Lots Avenue and Wakefield 241street . Let the 3 trains go to Flatlands Ave and the 4 5 trains to Utica Avenue and New Lots Avenue Brooklyn.