Love the fact that you used stone for the handle, I work with stone every day and have made pocket knife scales out of various types of stone. The finished product looks amazing.😮
I certainly don't think it's worth the money not even close, but that's not to say I don't respect the workmanship or that I don't love watching the videos. It's more like there are cheaper knives that cut just as well, and to me a knife is a tool, no more, and not a piece of art. That's why I wear a cheapish quartz watch, that actually tells time rather then an expensive automatic that you'd need a second clock for anyway just to set it, which seems a bit pointless. It's like, we've moved on, why stick to the old guns just for the heck of it ...
@@SweDennis it's clear you are not well educated on steel or tools for that matter. when it comes to tools you use everyday (27yr master service tech for kenworth btw) you get what you pay for. it's like comparing a snap on ratchet to the home depot stanley ratchet. with knives? same thing. buy cheap get cheap performance. also this is an art piece as well. if you are a master chef. do you buy a fine knife? or a ginsu?
@@jackmeoffer9334 You are absolutely correct in not being educated in the matter, no argument there. I'm just curious what a knife would cost without it being a work of art, not neccessarily buy the cheapest crap one can find. Same with pens, there are mont blancs for thousands of dollars, and bic pens that write just as well, until they don't and then you get a new one. That's all, but to each his own, if you appreciate owning the piece of art and not just the functional knife then no arguments from me.
@@SweDennisRemember the first law of capitalism. Something is worth what someone is willing to pay for it. At this point, these knives are collectors items. I'm sure that that vegetable chopper will never even see a carrot.
As much as I usually enjoy Kyle's narration and explanation of the process, this format is no less entertaining to watch, and the end result was simply gorgeous! Loved the feather pattern Damascus and the fittings looked amazing!
Alright! No better way to start a beautiful snowy Friday here in Southwest Michigan than having some coffee and watching Mr. Royer hand craft some high functioning art! It’s fascinating to me how the welds don’t break under the immense force from that press.
There is a stress riser where the tang meets the integral bolster; there should be more of a radius there to prevent it from snapping. Beautiful knife!
What is up with all the negative comments from people who have no idea about what it takes to do this kind of art. They have no idea about the years of training and the cost of the equipment used. I'll bet they couldn't even sharpen a pocket knife.
The title is kinda clickbait-ie. However, the main reason for the negativity is that most people feel entitled to things they want, and the price tag in the title is reminding them that they'll never have something like this.
As for the equipment, Dad & Kyle built most of it, but to turn what was, I believe Dad's woodworking shop into a forge that has produced a Master & a Journeyman Smith is incredible.
@Michiganmoose69 I didn't say that the used parts were free, or that their time and labor doesn't count. Are you saying that cobbled together parts, turned into working machines cost as much as new ones? Or do you just hate when someone else has a differing opinion?
Lei è un vero maestro nel costruire coltelli, lo dimostra l'attenzione nei dettagli nonché l'attrezzatura che le consente di creare delle vere opere d'arte, bravo 👏👏👏👍🙋
That's awesome! My son Griffin keeps asking me about the Griffin Sword. I tell him to be patient, it's coming 😁 We enjoy watching your videos together and get excited when we see the videos post. Y'all are very skilled at the blade smithing and videography.
Lovely work, Jeff. Not the sort of knife I'd give mother, she'd accidently drop it on the kitchen tiled floor at least twice on the way to being washed up on first use. I'm not sure whether our tiles laid on concrete or your stone handle is stronger. And not willing to test that theory. Love the knife and video. That was beaut.
Another great dad build. 👍 I realize it's a lot of work, but I hope Josh can edit together a video of the whole Griffin sword build to date. And if it's over an hour long, 😃👍
I'm pretty sure because he cut the ends off, doesn't matter for the material. But the side holds the pattern, so by tig welding, you don't have to remove as much material when grinding because the welds are of the same material.
Also the bandsaw blades are expensive so they only use them on billets that have been through normalisation cycling to soften the metal, otherwise the high carbon billet is too hard and will strip the teeth right off the blade. They use the bandsaw for tile cutting since it is more precise and requires less cleanup but the cutoff saw for dividing the billet ready for restacking because it is a much quicker process (normalising the billet can take several hours vs just waiting for the steel to cool from forging and being able to cut it right away).
Beautiful work I have to ask though Starting billet looked to be 23 layers-ish I tried to count lol about 6ish in. long? so probably 12ish feet of new steel from a known supplier. For $36 I gotta know where you order from!
Why o why would anyone want to pay 3700 dollar for this nakiri.....you cannot say its the hours work put in , materials used of gas/power consumed. Its a ridiculously high price because of the Royer name attached.
clearly you've never made anything in your life. it's not the hours worked or materials. it's the YEARS of training and experience that allows him to make this, that costs so much. It's the ability. I bet if you made something like this, it 1) wouldn't look anywhere near as good... and 2) wouldn't even be able to hold an edge... and that is IF you could get the forge welds to set. If you don't like it, why are you subscribed? just go away. nobody wants you here.
Why would someone put in the time and effort to complain on the Internet about how much someone else is willing to spend on a custom commissioned piece? Is it to try to make people feel bad? To make yourself feel superior? To soothe your endless nagging feeling of impotence? All of the above?
Many reasons. 1) Kyle is an ABS master Smith, and that ranking is exceptionally difficult to achieve. The testing is very strict and requires years, if not decades, to be able to pass. Kyle's dad is an ABS journeyman smith, which is one step below the master smith rating. This is also very difficult to achieve, and requires years of experience, training and practice. Those rankings ensure buyers are getting EXTREMELY high quality blades. 2) You are not just paying for the materials, or just for the time spent making that specific blade. You are also paying for the insane amount of time required to be ABLE to make that blade. It took years of experience to get their skills to this level. You pay more for higher skill levels, because the work is done better and faster. 3) You also have to pay for wear and tear on equipment. Go look up how much a metalworking lathe costs, or a milling machine, or a welder, or an anvil, or a hydraulic forge press, or a propane forge, or a 2x72 belt grinder, or a heat treating oven, or any of the other dozens of tools needed to reach their level of quality and efficiency. You're looking at over 20k if you buy used, and over 60k buying new, and that's the low end. High quality tools cost much more. All of those factors add up, and assuming it took about a week to make this knife, which would be impressively fast, you'd be paying just about $92 an hour. Most businesses i know charge between $100 and $150 per hour, per person, for labor alone. And that's for normal, common jobs. Bladesmiths who make custom blades for individuals are pretty rare. Just because you wouldnt spend $3,700 on a knife doesn't mean it isn't worth it, it just means it not worth that to you. People spend far more money on items they use far less often than a kitchen knife, and they are happy to do it. Your opinions do not change the value.
Must be new to knives, huh? Whatever you do, don’t go down the custom folder rabbit hole. We wouldn’t want the sticker shock of a piece from a maker like Emmanuel Esposito, or a full custom from Sergey Shirogorov giving you a heart attack.
That bent screw told the whole story. Doesn't have to be fancy or complex, as long as it works.
I just want to say i have been following from a very long time and every time you upload i am thankful for your whole family!
That's your dad, right? Man, your whole family got game. Another beautiful piece on your channel.
yeah that is the dad
You can easily tell when it’s Kyle because at some point he’ll bend his neck at a crazy 90 degree angle that doesn’t seem humanly possible 😂
if you were to read the description you would see it's his dad, but meh reading is too complex let's just assume...
Your creative solutions to problems and the tenacity to see them through has always impressed me.
Kyle taught you quickly. You are now a master as well!
Love the fact that you used stone for the handle, I work with stone every day and have made pocket knife scales out of various types of stone. The finished product looks amazing.😮
TO THOSE WHO THINK THAT IT IS NOT WORTH THAT MONEY? YOU TRY TO DO THAT!!!! FRANKLY THAT IS A LOW PRICE FOR THAT WORK!!!
I certainly don't think it's worth the money not even close, but that's not to say I don't respect the workmanship or that I don't love watching the videos. It's more like there are cheaper knives that cut just as well, and to me a knife is a tool, no more, and not a piece of art. That's why I wear a cheapish quartz watch, that actually tells time rather then an expensive automatic that you'd need a second clock for anyway just to set it, which seems a bit pointless. It's like, we've moved on, why stick to the old guns just for the heck of it ...
@@SweDennis it's clear you are not well educated on steel or tools for that matter. when it comes to tools you use everyday (27yr master service tech for kenworth btw) you get what you pay for. it's like comparing a snap on ratchet to the home depot stanley ratchet. with knives? same thing. buy cheap get cheap performance. also this is an art piece as well. if you are a master chef. do you buy a fine knife? or a ginsu?
Really pathetic cope.
@@jackmeoffer9334 You are absolutely correct in not being educated in the matter, no argument there. I'm just curious what a knife would cost without it being a work of art, not neccessarily buy the cheapest crap one can find. Same with pens, there are mont blancs for thousands of dollars, and bic pens that write just as well, until they don't and then you get a new one. That's all, but to each his own, if you appreciate owning the piece of art and not just the functional knife then no arguments from me.
@@SweDennisRemember the first law of capitalism. Something is worth what someone is willing to pay for it.
At this point, these knives are collectors items. I'm sure that that vegetable chopper will never even see a carrot.
As much as I usually enjoy Kyle's narration and explanation of the process, this format is no less entertaining to watch, and the end result was simply gorgeous! Loved the feather pattern Damascus and the fittings looked amazing!
Nice one Jeff! Love the knife and love the format of the video too. A perfect complement to Kyle’s uploads. More of this would be most welcome.
27:51 minutes of Master Class !
Thank you sir for giving me the chance to see you at work .. truly a Master !
Yet another beautiful piece by dad! You're really making some great, functional art!
Alright! No better way to start a beautiful snowy Friday here in Southwest Michigan than having some coffee and watching Mr. Royer hand craft some high functioning art!
It’s fascinating to me how the welds don’t break under the immense force from that press.
Love the raw sound of the workshop! Beautiful piece of Art!
wow!! awesome Damascus pattern and the knife looks epic!! its always nice seeing a Dad video!
Nicely done, Sir!! Beautiful feather pattern, and the marble was an excellent choice for your first stone hilt👍
No bullshit. Straight to the point. I need more.
Reminds me of a massive straight razor. I never cease to be impressed by your level of craftsmanship.
That came out amazing!
There is a stress riser where the tang meets the integral bolster; there should be more of a radius there to prevent it from snapping. Beautiful knife!
Labour of love right there. Lovely knife.
The talent is mind blowing!
Beautiful work!! What kind of belts are you using to shape the stone?
Beautiful work!
No wonder your son makes such amazing blades too!
That should be JRoyer MS…and the camera work is absolutely first class.
What is up with all the negative comments from people who have no idea about what it takes to do this kind of art. They have no idea about the years of training and the cost of the equipment used. I'll bet they couldn't even sharpen a pocket knife.
The title is kinda clickbait-ie.
However, the main reason for the negativity is that most people feel entitled to things they want, and the price tag in the title is reminding them that they'll never have something like this.
As for the equipment, Dad & Kyle built most of it, but to turn what was, I believe Dad's woodworking shop into a forge that has produced a Master & a Journeyman Smith is incredible.
@@Bob-t5i7z I take it when you make machines yourself it is free, no cost or time involved.
@Michiganmoose69 I didn't say that the used parts were free, or that their time and labor doesn't count.
Are you saying that cobbled together parts, turned into working machines cost as much as new ones? Or do you just hate when someone else has a differing opinion?
Absolutely beautiful!
That knife is gorgeous !!!
What a treat
Looks great pops 🎉
Lei è un vero maestro nel costruire coltelli, lo dimostra l'attenzione nei dettagli nonché l'attrezzatura che le consente di creare delle vere opere d'arte, bravo 👏👏👏👍🙋
Beautiful work sir.
it's utterly magnificent
You're going to give Kyle a run for his money..lol.. great work! Beautiful ..
That's awesome! My son Griffin keeps asking me about the Griffin Sword. I tell him to be patient, it's coming 😁
We enjoy watching your videos together and get excited when we see the videos post. Y'all are very skilled at the blade smithing and videography.
What stops the handle from swiveling on the round tang?
Epoxy
Awesome Jeff.🔪
Worth every penny
absolutely stunning knife
Lovely work, Jeff.
Not the sort of knife I'd give mother, she'd accidently drop it on the kitchen tiled floor at least twice on the way to being washed up on first use. I'm not sure whether our tiles laid on concrete or your stone handle is stronger. And not willing to test that theory.
Love the knife and video. That was beaut.
Wowwee, what a beautiful pattern 🙂
My biggest question is where can I buy steel for $35??? I just spent $300 last week 🤣
Thanks Kyle's Dad for another great video. So when is Kyle's final Griffin sword video going to be shown to us?
From the video last week, about another 2 or 3 weeks. 😃. I can't wait.
ASMR!!!❤❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉 LOVE IT!
loves your dads works
well done brother........blessings
Stunning.
I like this no bullshit approach 😅
Is it a shaving tool ? :D
I think it's a kitchen tool, for chopping vegetables. Amazing knife btw.
@@Bob-t5i7z Doesn't the handle remind you of a certain Western?
We need a petition to rename Dad Royer into DadstRoyer !
As much as I appreciate the pun, I don't think it's a fitting name for a maker.
@@ArabianShark I have to shamefully admit that this was only made for the pun, especially since it's Star Wars related 😉
Squish squish squish, squish the steel. Bang bang bang hammer the steel.
He is back! he is alive! Optimus is here!!
Another great dad build. 👍 I realize it's a lot of work, but I hope Josh can edit together a video of the whole Griffin sword build to date. And if it's over an hour long, 😃👍
@27:37 may I ask where that scar on your hand came from? Looks pretty gnarly!
No way that's 35 dollars of steel. Bro is buying at wholesale prices
If you know the right people and play nice with the right fab shops, its not hard to purchase steel at scrap prices.
@@jordankurth8518 true especially if they're scrap
The initial billet was surely more, but once they cut off what was used for this knife, I could see that being about $35.
If your making as much Damascus as they are, then yea they probably are
@jordankurth8518 fab shops are basically never using knife alloys, and definitely not in that size stock.
I wonder what a feather Damascus would look like if you reversed it and put the outsides back to back?
Is the cut off wheel used on the floor to minimise the spark travel ??
Just wondering near the start 0:19, why mig the short sides but tig the long sides?
I'm pretty sure because he cut the ends off, doesn't matter for the material. But the side holds the pattern, so by tig welding, you don't have to remove as much material when grinding because the welds are of the same material.
@ that does make sense, but why not tig it all?
Beautiful Mosaic damascus
Too bad I can't hit the like button more than once!
Wow its amaising, perfect. Sorry of my english, i am from Ukraine and saw and see all your videos and your son too. You are the BEST!!!
Slava Ukraine 🇨🇦🇺🇦
What is the difference between cutting with the cutoff saw vs the ban saw? You used both in the video.
The cutoff saw is much faster, but there is a lot more waste. So you have to decide between speed and waste of material.
Also the bandsaw blades are expensive so they only use them on billets that have been through normalisation cycling to soften the metal, otherwise the high carbon billet is too hard and will strip the teeth right off the blade. They use the bandsaw for tile cutting since it is more precise and requires less cleanup but the cutoff saw for dividing the billet ready for restacking because it is a much quicker process (normalising the billet can take several hours vs just waiting for the steel to cool from forging and being able to cut it right away).
A more realistic title would be "turning 35 bucks in a ON MILLION shop into whatever" hahaha
Beautiful work I have to ask though Starting billet looked to be 23 layers-ish I tried to count lol about 6ish in. long? so probably 12ish feet of new steel from a known supplier. For $36 I gotta know where you order from!
Came for the commercials stayed for the knifemaking
Thank you for not spoiling this video with childish behavuir and wordy explainations. Your best video yet,
27:07 says Nikuri instead of Nakiri.
Very nice! 👍😎🍺
Danger banana? 2:41
Forbidden creamsicle
I watched many of your videos and I am puzzled why you cut your forged steel with a cutoff saw on the floor? My knees hurt for you.
sick.
awesome shop, but chop saw just sitting on the ground lol
That knife isn't worth $3,700. That's just what some idiot is willing to pay. Big difference between value and worth.
Lamka a pat I om kha uh hia
This kind of title sucks. Just outright say "using basic steel and 3700 bucks worth of labor to make a knife"
Anticlimactic
This isn't fun without commentary.
You had me until the felon popped up.
Unsubscribed. 😢Why can’t it just be about the knife?
What’s happened to the voice over? I found it quite informative and now the videos seem a little lacklustre.
@@glenpantlin8291 some of the videos dont have voiceover, this isnt aome revolutionary thing
first
Don’t care
2nd
Why o why would anyone want to pay 3700 dollar for this nakiri.....you cannot say its the hours work put in , materials used of gas/power consumed. Its a ridiculously high price because of the Royer name attached.
clearly you've never made anything in your life. it's not the hours worked or materials. it's the YEARS of training and experience that allows him to make this, that costs so much. It's the ability. I bet if you made something like this, it 1) wouldn't look anywhere near as good... and 2) wouldn't even be able to hold an edge... and that is IF you could get the forge welds to set.
If you don't like it, why are you subscribed? just go away. nobody wants you here.
It's high because the build quality is high, the artistry is high, and yes to a degree the reputation is high.
Yup, it's the Royer name on it. The same as a Rembrandt is worth more than a Velvet Elvis painting. Both are nice, but the price is very different.
Why would someone put in the time and effort to complain on the Internet about how much someone else is willing to spend on a custom commissioned piece? Is it to try to make people feel bad? To make yourself feel superior? To soothe your endless nagging feeling of impotence? All of the above?
Many reasons.
1) Kyle is an ABS master Smith, and that ranking is exceptionally difficult to achieve. The testing is very strict and requires years, if not decades, to be able to pass. Kyle's dad is an ABS journeyman smith, which is one step below the master smith rating. This is also very difficult to achieve, and requires years of experience, training and practice. Those rankings ensure buyers are getting EXTREMELY high quality blades.
2) You are not just paying for the materials, or just for the time spent making that specific blade. You are also paying for the insane amount of time required to be ABLE to make that blade. It took years of experience to get their skills to this level. You pay more for higher skill levels, because the work is done better and faster.
3) You also have to pay for wear and tear on equipment. Go look up how much a metalworking lathe costs, or a milling machine, or a welder, or an anvil, or a hydraulic forge press, or a propane forge, or a 2x72 belt grinder, or a heat treating oven, or any of the other dozens of tools needed to reach their level of quality and efficiency. You're looking at over 20k if you buy used, and over 60k buying new, and that's the low end. High quality tools cost much more.
All of those factors add up, and assuming it took about a week to make this knife, which would be impressively fast, you'd be paying just about $92 an hour. Most businesses i know charge between $100 and $150 per hour, per person, for labor alone. And that's for normal, common jobs. Bladesmiths who make custom blades for individuals are pretty rare.
Just because you wouldnt spend $3,700 on a knife doesn't mean it isn't worth it, it just means it not worth that to you.
People spend far more money on items they use far less often than a kitchen knife, and they are happy to do it.
Your opinions do not change the value.
I can’t stand these titles anymore. They are so… low effort and clickbait. I wouldn’t pay you more than 25$ an hour for your work.
Why be here then?
I wouldn't pay you one cent for your work. What kind of person are you? Good luck on your miserable life!!!
Must be new to knives, huh?
Whatever you do, don’t go down the custom folder rabbit hole. We wouldn’t want the sticker shock of a piece from a maker like Emmanuel Esposito, or a full custom from Sergey Shirogorov giving you a heart attack.
You aren't paying by the hour for customs you pay for the job.
Just say you're broke and move on go get your dollar store knife
If you ever get a bad case of stink finger, you can always use Oyster Brothers handy wipes, with orange and lemon peel extracts.