12 Starfleet Ships You Probably Haven't heard of
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- Today i Give a 'brief' rundown of the various fan-made and and Beta Cannon Starfleet ships which have featured in my episodes. giving my general thoughts on the designs and why i felt the need to add them into my episodes.
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Gerougia is not my model this is from Star Trek Online
oh right. well i found it through your work. and like i say its really grown on me :)
@@venomgeekmedia9886 i am just shock someone outside of DeviantArt notice, but all those orthos the models belong to someone else their names r on the pic if I know how did the model, or the r from Star Trek Online
@@admiralhorton7121 gotcha. All the same keep up the great work.
@@venomgeekmedia9886 one class u should add is the Achilles Class from Star Trek Dominion Wars video game
@@admiralhorton7121 perhaps it's quite a popular one.
The Thunderchild design reminds me of a Starfleet engineer trying to make a pocket size Deridex or a show designer who got their shows mixed up and thought he was designing a Babylon 5 Whitestar.
I was gonna say reminds me of Andromeda another one of genes creations but considering the age of both sci-fi I'm sure they all might copy something older and remember star terk history is quite old older then even star wars... such types of ships desgin weren't really new when Babylon 5 came out but I don't know about the books or who wrote it and when it was designed and written.
Hey, Marcus Starkiller here. I am honored to see that several of my designs made it to this list.
Your too humble. Your work is excellent. Keep it up. :)
@@venomgeekmedia9886 I have had clone trooper pixel of mine show up in other peoples' videos before, but this is the first time one of my ships, be it Star Wars, Star Trek, Babylon 5, etc... has shown up in a video to my knowledge.
@@MarcusStarkiller well they deserve to they're excellent.
@@venomgeekmedia9886 Thank you.
The Splendor class has an early Akira feel. I like it!
The Probert-Ambassador seems to have gotten a new lease of live in STO as the 25th century T6 Ambassador variant, clearly inspiring the engineering section with its round draft and diagonal struts. The ingame description even mentions a "Captain A. Probert responsible for the design" that was "ahead of its time in 2319".
I actually really prefer the Enterprise C version of the Ambassador, except the 'rearrange the furniture for the set' bridge design. :)
I like both given the ambassador came out in the 2320s you could still have the probert come out in the 40s to bridge the gap with the galaxy.
Yeah but urrrggh STO is just painful already - ships are pretty much skins with modifiers - no heart and soul - nothing special and unique to your ship, no true customization of weapons and layouts and cores and on and on. Game bores me to tears already
@@miamijules2149 good lord, if STO is your definition of not customizible, then you really dont pay much attention to modern games, if need a sandbox go play space engineers and look at the processing requirements. not counting rep there are over 10 diffrent types of warp cores, 6 base types of energy weapons, 3 diffrent types of exotic Energy weapons, as many diffrent types of torpedeo's and mines. dozens of diffrent unique consoles. if your talking about "The Meta" then you are lame, and inexperinced. Hell there are over 500 diffrent playable ships...really
Sounds and looks cool wish his desgin was picked it looks way better then what they went with maybe it was easier for the modeling team to something more simple but when cgi came out would have been a nice look on screen.
I remember Andor class from FASA's Star Trek I always liked the design. Especially the way Secondary Hull shielded the engines and it's ability to put out a wall of torpedoes.
Yeah it's arguably together than the constitution.
The Akazi reminds me of a Patrol Cutter. There was another Class, The Akula Class Destroyer in ST:Legacy, that looks like an Uprated version.
I could see that part way through the Akazi's Productions they made the Akula Subclass, which offered greater ability.
There is also the fan made Wasp Class which again looks like Variation of the Akazi class creating a solid family of ships.
Yeah there's a lot of subclasses built on this platform.
Come on, THUNDERCHILD!!
Seriously though, I love its design
How do i miss these videos….so weird. I loved the FASA ships so thanks for this video.
I've been looking for the starship classes used by the Federation during the Dominion War within the timeline between 2360s-2370s. It's quite awesome to see them what they are.
Sun Tzu class
Clemson class
Tiger Class
Thunderchild class
Akasi class
Councillor class
Narendra class
Gorgio class
Abbey class
Splendor class
St Nazaire class carrier
Andor Mk II class
Some really amazing looking Starships the Andor MK2 is my favourite really great designs
The Akayazi class Perimeter Action Ships were created by Calon Riel in 1992 by the Mastercom Data Center in a 2 book set called Ships of the Star Fleet. This was a set of 2 paper books made to look like Jane's Fighting Ships. There were 3 sub classes, the Akayazi, the Arbiter, and the Akula. There was a bunch of lore in the books about how they were intended to be used with a ton of fold outs for more information. A great set of books by the way and a great, imaginative design. I bought them at the time they were published just about 30 years ago. The Akira class Thunderchild by the way had its name taken from the fictional british ship in War of the Worlds that destroyed an alien walker or two with its guns. I don't think the name was ever used as a regular ship name, but it COULD have been. Great name.
great rundown. i love beta cannon and fan designs
I was always confused by the shapes I couldn't identify in the big fleet battles
The federation fleet pre dominion war, even just after wolf 359 reminds me of the Royal Navy in the 1890s to 1910. Full of old designs and dominates thanks to its cruiser heavy layout. After wolf 359 and during the dominion war the fleet is rebuilt. Again, just like the Royal navy Post HMS Dreadnought.
Personally I wish they had added something like the Washington naval treaty between the major powers in TNG to explain why alot of federation and klingon ships are so old.
I have read they wanted to go with the Proto-Ambassador class but had to simplify the design because they pushed up the episode giving them less time to get the model ready. I’ve heard several different reasons ranging from them pushing it up for sweeps week to pushing it up to accommodate Whoopi Goldberg & Denise Crosby’s shooting schedules.
It would have been nice for them to finish the model and use it in stead of the Excelsior, so often.
@@DocWolph It got so repetitive. Excelsior & Miranda, Excelsior & Miranda. Occasionally throwing in a Nebula. That was all we ever saw in TNG. Other than Yesterday's Enterprise we never saw the Ambassador again which was such a shame.
In addition to Akyazi/Akula class corvette/destroyer variants. I like the Hornet class and especially the Abbé class torpedo bomber. It fits in well with the TMP era designs. It packs quote a punch with 4 forward launchers & 4 aft launchers in a weapons pod above the main hull.
Great video! I knew of a good few these, from your videos, go figure XD
Ah you spotted them!
I knew 3 of them, I was rather surprised there are that many Starfleet classes I'd not heard of, so thanks.
The Narendra is probably the most often seen of the non-canon classes, it was prominently displayed on the wall of the Enterprise D briefing room, and they did not even update the wall after we saw the Enterprise C, as a child/teen I'd often wondered why the B and C did not look much like their depictions in probably about 100 episodes of TNG.
As I understand it the main reason that was not used as NCC-1701-C was they needed a simpler model to build for the C, because they had not got enough time to build such a complex design, when they decided to film Yesterday's Enterprise, hence the Ambassador being all relatively simple shapes..
In terms of ideas for ships to talk about. In the Hunting the Hutet you mentioned an old figher called the Vector. There was also a small Cardassian fighter that I don't remember you naming.
The victory. The fighter is a design by ryselle 3d I've named it Kopesh.
A lot of these designs are rather interesting as they do fill in gaps rather nicely and they build the TLE fleet as well.
I think we could use fleet replenishment ships ( fuel tankers) Hospital ships ( operating behind the lines and assisting seriously damaged ships with full hospital facilities. And finally ammo resupply and Starfleet corps of engineers ships equipped to drag damaged ships out of combat and or service and repair them in the field when it’s impractical or impossible to have a star base nearby
Definitely. Good candidates for that would be the USS Elkins. The Olympic, the hutzel and the nebula with a medical module.
@@venomgeekmedia9886 an old book I had showed medical ships as oberth upper units with the canoe removed and a hospital module fitted in place of it. I also think that Miranda class ships could be attached to one. I saw one fitted out as a fuel carrier. Anyways with stuff like that going on I did write a captains log about an operation near betazed. It was an “ adhoc” attempt by a mixed Starfleet and Klingon force to try to punch open a hole and allow 1 federation fleet and 3 Klingon fleets to escape an encirclement. In my head cannon it happens just prior to operation return and it’s really Starfleet’s first major success for the Normandy class “ super” defiant ( 25 percent increase in overall mass for more armor, shields and guns). We spend most of our time protecting support ships cause the senior staff are afraid to let Wolf 359 and cardassian war veterans “ off the leash”. “ Operation doorstop” as we called it was our chance at first blood. I’m using Ben Maxwell and Jellicoe as 2 of my “ Warhawk captains”. I can flesh it out more if your interested. ( I really enjoy the dominion war stuff cause it’s refreshing to see that when they’re up against the wall, Starfleet will resort to whatever they have to do to win )
WOW!! These are some radical designs I like the way you have the subtle color changes during the presentation that give the ships an interesting look! Nice video well DONE!!🖖👍⭐😎💃
Venom Geek, another highly enjoyable, entertaining, factual, informative, & fun video of our beloved & beautiful Starfleet ships. It’s always a pleasure to watch your work
I think it would be real cool if we jumped into some tmp type battlespace episodes. I'd luv to see your take on the war with the ISC and the involvement of the organians. I don't think I've ever seen anyone talk about the mirak and the lyrans. Heck even the hydrans, which to this day I can't figure out their relationship with the federation. It was almost as if they were a part of the federation, but still independent. Either way they were pretty cool and their carrier mentality all the way down to FF classes is cool to me
if you want TMP Era. stay tuned for the 17th... i'm cooking up something special.
id like to see eaglemoss build models of these starships, as they'd be great in any starship collection as i wish to start a collection myself, and would love to add models of these ships to such a collection...
The thunder child would make one hell of a heavy destroyer but head on it reminds me of the fed stealing Dederix ideas. I’ve always thought the ambassador class to me it’s like the true progression of the constitution class that being said I do like its version of a meranda it was cool idea.
Cheers. Some of them are new to me
Great video I am familiar with some but not all. I hope you'll do more videos on this subject.
The Andor class is one of my Favorites I use in Star fleet command 3 also the Ayashi class but in SFC3 its a destroyer..
While I have herd of most of these there was a couple I've never see. Great list VGM 👍
im glad i was able to introduce you to something new. which were new to you?
@@venomgeekmedia9886 most the ships from Marcus Star-Killer except for the Clempson class I haven't seen before. Thanks for the heads up on his work.
Great vid! Iv always loved the Miranda class, seems smarter to put ur nacelles out of sight as best can be. Buuut, that being said my favorite ship from STD would me the Walker class, nacelles are a bit long but really makes the ship look likes it’s moving while sitting still, plus atmospheric flight!!! All that said the Centar class is really cool too! I’d captain her
I"m excited about you mentioning 23rd Century battles
Then you'll like what I'm cooking up.
Andor MK II looks like Concorde class Command Battlecruiser from 25th century. (STO Design) and actually Concorde Class is a very artillery focused vessel.
You're basically the only information I get on Star Trek stuff. Sure, I watched TNG, VOY, and some of DS9 and TOS, but other than that, you're my only source of star trek info. That and Lore Reloaded on occasion. I'm currently working on a 22nd Century starship model (not any known Trek power) for some fan fiction that will start coming out soon on a channel that I haven't yet created. And you've given me so much inspiration on how to design my fleet.
Glad I could help. I look forward to seeing your work.
I really think someone needs to design a gatling gun style launcher that fires micro-torpedos from six to eight barrels like a Gatling Gun at a high rate of speed. I build Gatling Guns for my firearms company and just think it would make a great star trek design.
These designs are intriguing to look at. It's also evident that you have a thing for the Excelsior style design layout given that half the ships shown in the video are based upon that.
Although why the limited number of ship classes presented in the shows is somewhat understandable (except that Zhang He class copy-paste scene), Given that Starfleet has 70,000+ ships by the 2370s compared to that of the 75-ish of the Royal Navy and the 300-ish of the US Navy currently IRL, some variation is better than 50,000 Mirandas. Even just experimental transition vessels that only number a few dozen each. After all Starfleet Engineers fond and adore their ship modularity.
Starfleet had about 8000 Starships at the height of the Dominion war. The Dominion alliance had about 30000 warships
@@martindevon3204 ; 8000 active ships. They had a whole lot more in reserve/mothballed, but lacked the trained manpower to support them.
I do like the excelsior aesthetic. But it also make more sense numbers wise for the dominion war compared to Connie refit derivatives. Since they would be less than 80 years old.
Bolting nacelles to a disk. Let me count the ways.
48-50 fighters in a star trek carrier? Awesome, and something starfleet badly needed.
The Probert design was rejected because they didn’t have the budget
Love these videos!!! Only channel I give money to.
Might I suggest a look at the TrekYards Sayer class. It's a very interesting small scale design. Also I've noticed Starfleet doesn't seem to have much in the way of scouts. Smaller designs sure but something that'll go out and sniff out trouble without being noticed or even something like a modern day AWACS style eye in sky.
I'll give it a look.
It wasn't that they didn't choose the Probert design, it's that they had to rush a ship model into existence in a rush, and couldn't make such a refined design in the time frame (think it was under a week if I recall correctly).
OK that makes more sense.
I like bith designs. Canon is reminiscent of the connie while probert is proto galaxy
I've known about the abbe class. Back in the day it was classified as a torpedo boat
It's a big torpedo boat
🖖😎👍Very cool and very nicely well done and very well executed and informatively explained indeed 👌.
"Maybe you're as much of a geek as I am..."
I mean, only people who were watching a video about rare Star Trek ships heard that line.
good point.
@@venomgeekmedia9886 Of course! We're one big happy fleet!
you know what could fit in quite well as an escort ship for battlespace, the California class. Its decently armed and from what I can tell is of a similar size to a B'rel, they'd probably be on local system defence so They'd probably be supporting Federation fighters against fighter and attack ship raids. The Parliament class would be a pretty decent light cruiser too and the Lunar could act as a scout which can also hold its own in a fight, I'm going to be honest; I see the Lunar class as a combat Intrepid which packs a decent punch, from what we see in lower decks as well its pretty maneuverable so wouldn't be completely unviable as a screening vessel against Jem'Hadar fighters.
most of the designs are great too, the Akasi (don't know how to spell it) is a nice looking ship and my personal favourite. Its got that workhorse vibe and I love it.
The califonia is pretty big. Definitely too big to be an escort. Parliament is like a battlecruiser in terms of size. Lunar is about the size of an akira. But more agile. For a escort look out for the interceptor.
@@venomgeekmedia9886 well turns out I just suck at judging sizes then. and for the Parliament, I mean its cool and all but just seems like it would be typically under gunned for its size
Nerd
I hadn't heard of most of them!
I wonder if you'll be fluffing out the fleets of the other nations as well? I'm sure there must be some nice Klingon designs and variants.
Definitely of course there are the vorcha variants. And you'll see klingon light carriers and assault ships.
I like Admiral Horton's work. I use it to make very high res reskins for the ship textures in the Armada games. They've never looked so good. The technique is tricky, but if one understands how SODs work and the parts are all in the right grid position it's not so bad. Probably the worst part is the wrap arounds, but I have my ways. Cheers.
Fun video!👍😀
Build the Andor with Sovereign parts and it solves a big issue. The novels have a Shran-Class BC (depicted as a rescaled Kumari). Two weeks after Andor seceded from the UFP, this ship, with a special plan, and specialized equipment, and Tholian advisors travels to the farsthest reaches of the Beta Quadrant to rendezvous with USS Titan.
This is even more impressive if the ship wasn't built prior to secession. And I sure didn't see anything that looked like a Kumari in the Dominion War. We know the premiere warrior race of the Federation didn't sit out a war that Vulcans were fighting in.
I beg to differ; the Ontario Class is the most substantial carrier in Star Fleet, but then I'm bias. lol
My mom always told me if you have nothing nice to say, don’t say anything at all. And I’m gonna have to stick with it on this. With the exception of the ambassador class Miranda hybrid
The Chandley class frigate is my favorite FASA Federation ship.
6:26 the Akazi, if memory serves me right, was a mod for Bridge Commander.
Some of them where given a model in Star Trek online, Like the Narendra and Georgiou....
I'm not sure I like the execution on the Andor Mk IIs, aesthetically anyway. (Also cause it's unclear why the Mk II *needs* to be that much bigger, unless maybe it's doubling as a carrier or relief ship or explorer or other big-hull purpose.) Excelsior *styling* is a cool update on em though.
yeah its not really a mk2 it is a completely new class.
The Georgiou class is from Star Trek Online.
Correct admiral Horton himself just told me.
Diogo Vincenzi's Kusanagi class is one of my favourite fan designs
It's just a tmp akira
@@venomgeekmedia9886 That's why I like it
Hey I was kind of curious about the Earth romulan war I guess I keep harping on that cuz I'm doing a campaign that's around it and I was wondering one of my favorite chips is the conqueror class ship if you ever happen to go to the Earth romulan war or go around that have you and break down ship by ship like you're doing this on the earth to many more have you any have you ever done a video about that particular class of ship or would you ever consider doing that class to ship breakdown on there and maybe about the evolution of how you go from United Earth stellar Navy to the federation and the breakdown of the ships that go from that from Cochran's first flight to the Enterprise d
As much as I feel that the Splenda class has a pretty sweet design, there doesn't seem to be much substance backing it up. Ultimately, it just ends leaving a bad taste in my mouth.
I know that it's "Splendor", but doing it my way is how the joke works, in as much as the joke works at all.
I'd like to see you go in depth into the proxima class..
I have done a video on it.
Any chance of a Renaissance class ship being in a battlespace episode?
I would like to see a variant of the Vengance and Discovery made into a Miranda class ship.
What about some TMP Yamato and Ulysses Class ships, the dominating power of the 23rd Century Federation
How about the Turus? And or the Salinden? (Feel free to Spell Check me) but you get what I mean.
Great video. Have you done one o the USS Bradbury?
No. I'll take a look.
you should do an April's fools version of this video. like starting with Connie and galaxy and ending on a star destroyer
The Clemson Class was listed before the Tiger Class. Gamecock fans saw what you did their lol.
Did I accidentally make a reference?
Is the Splenda Class a lighter version of the Sugar Class?
Federation should focus on standardized designs. Less interesting, but more efficient
I loved the appearance of FASA's Andor-class the moment I saw it. I loved it even more after reading the ship specs. And even more after blasting my way to victory with it in the tactical game. It has always been one of my favourite ships, a thing which pleases me.
But I also instantly disliked the Excelsior the first time I saw it. I couldn't imagine that grotesquely misshapen and sluggishly obese scow having any kind of speed or grace no matter how hard they tried to -pretend- _convince me_ otherwise.
So I have rather mixed feelings about this Andor Mark II.
Cool i agree the canon fleet is limited. Unusually so .
akula class on thumbnail, instant click
I thought the Enterprise C shooting model was put together in a hury and they had to simplify the model.
Sir I have a question on carriers,
I understand that carriers need to be mobile yet I'd think there would be a system only variant of carrier especially for core systems like Vulcan.
These would not be able to go to warp at all instead going for sheer capacity of craft. Sure a space station would out do it, but a mobile platform to extend small craft ranges and mobile deployment would be at least mildly useful insystem.
So my question is where are these craft in star trek?
Not so much for combat fighters since most are capable of low warp. But for in system cargo hauling. Particularly in the earlier periods that would be very handy.
@@venomgeekmedia9886 thank you but I think I was unclear I mean a hull old or new completely incapable of warp built solely for defense craft. Example
A retro fitted Miranda class light cruiser (sorry used to play SFC) keep the engine but completely dump warp drive (a no doubt bulky device) make it pure crew quarters, minor amenities like gyms and lounges and add on as much deck space for light craft as the hull can take a high impulse turns.
In essence a short range mobile refueling platform that can tool about a system extending the range of the light craft.
I note these "hornet nests" are very lacking in star trek. Again yes a space station is going to out for its ttl capacity but it's basically stuck in orbit of 1 planet and this kind of ship can wreak havoc with formations. Example a first contact with one they expect 1 station at 00. 75, and suddenly they've got 3,4,5 dozen light craft a 180, 226 as suddenly the mobile warp nest hiding around the moon dumps its attackers. That would be a game changer as attacking forces can't anticipate where they are coming from but just know they are in system.
So two of the models in the Briefing lounge on the D (and E) are made up and didn't exist, instead of the actual B and C.
Abbe class was not FASA. I believe it's a Jackill (Eric Kristiansen) original.
Really cause I've seen pages and illustrations which really make it look like it's from fasa
@@venomgeekmedia9886 100% not in any of the official FASA material. There are fan-created stat pages for a lot of the popular Fanon designs, which is probably what you're seeing. As far as I'm aware the Abbe first appeared in 1995's fan created book "Jackill’s Star Fleet Reference Manual-Ships of the Fleet Volume I".
Thunderchild class gives me slight Andromeda vibes
id like to see the Bradbury class starship in these videos....
I wish that they in Star Trek they have a Conner-Class for star trek.
would you take a gander at the Vancouver class?
You mean the parliament class?
@@venomgeekmedia9886 forgive me for indeed I did
Great video, I always was of the opinion that the canon Starfleet fleet composition is rather boring and that is even more true for the Romulans. So, for the sake of Romulus, could you please make a video about Romulan ship classes that are not canon but great. :))))
Perhaps. I covered some in my romulan doctrine video and of course wings of romulus.
More like 12 starfleet ships I don't get a shit about.
Check out The Trekwright Channel. Lots of ships there though not as detailed as some of these artist drawings.
Will check him out
The thunderchild looks like someone copied the Babylon 5 white star class and trekified it.
He may well be a babylon 5 fan.
The Georgiou is a ship from STO, not an original design.
I don't really this the single necel designs appeals to me maybe as an escort amd or patrol ship. I like the torpedo pods but I feel like you can literally throw that many parts of federation ships... it also doesn't make sense they should have put them more on quad necel ships during the war. I also never liked the ambassador class much I always kinda looks really flat in some areas almost box like.
Let's see the Federation Fleet of 2375
Assault Cruisers: Sovereign.
Large Cruisers: Nebula, Challenger, Galaxy, and Galaxy X [late in 2375]
Medium Cruisers: Constellation, Norway, Akira, Ambassador, and Langley,
Light Cruisers: Intrepid, Consular, and Holukea Class
Destroyers: Saber, Nova, and Bradbury classes
Carriers: Curry, Raging Queen, and Constellation [specialized]
Escorts: Defiant, Sao Paulo, and Miranda [it isn't a light cruiser and hasn't been since 2320's it's an escort by this time]
Patrol Ships: Aziyaki, Lantree version of the Miranda, Andor mk2.
Now, why is everyone thinking the federation doesn't have a lot of classes to choose from.
i miss fafsa. too bad they didnt do die cast miniatures instead of lead
Fortunately we live in the era of 3d printing
What idiot rejected the Probert design for the Ambassador? The Ambassador is an anachronistic throwback. The Probert concept looks like a midpoint between the Excelsior and the Galaxy, which is what the Ambassador is supposed to be.
I always hated star trek' s inability to allow New ships to be build with certain ships appearing only once. Otherwise they just spam Miranda and Excelsior with galaxy class.
Chipshat
no matter how canon they are, i can't stand odd-number nacelle designs. here's hoping none show up in modern trek
probably not, modern designs are all about being sleek and sharp.
Most of these are just moving engines about...
Most of them was the same old ship with a defiant makeover. Looks like low budget and lac of imagination.
#1 bad, #2 good, #3 bad, #4 good, #5 good, #6 nacelle support struts bad, #7 better than Galaxy-class, #8 not bad, #9 good, but I prefer Andor-class, #10 not bad, #11 bad, #12 ANDOR! yay! Mk II... so-so, Wilkerson, Saladin and Thufir missing. Not keen at all on 4-engine ships. Look too silly.
Nearly all of the fan design are really bad.
Come on, THUNDERCHILD!!
Seriously though, I love its design
Sung by Chris Thompson.
Federation should focus on standardized designs. Less interesting, but more efficient