How Did Kendrick Lamar Challenged Drake’s Cultural Identity?

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  • @xtrapuffed17
    @xtrapuffed17 4 місяці тому +90

    IMO Drake has been cos playing for so long that a real Lyricist had to drop “They not like Us” to remind him of who he is. Kendrick is truly a gifted artist.

    • @forsale313
      @forsale313 4 місяці тому +2

      Let's not forget where Kendrick is actually from and how He grew up. "Killafornia" is a place where you have to pay attention 24/7........If you want to Live! Kendrick tells stories (to Music) about His life and Drake, Just tells stories. So in reality.........."They NOT like Us" fr fr.

  • @taynaburton5828
    @taynaburton5828 4 місяці тому +276

    How did DJ Vlad become the voice of the culture?🧐 More like a culture vulture

    • @DisplacedDetroitDiva
      @DisplacedDetroitDiva 4 місяці тому

      A lot of people with careers either on the way up or down wanted to be relevant so they went to Vlad. A vulture needs bodies to feed on and they offered themselves up willingly...

    • @browngrl77
      @browngrl77 4 місяці тому

      Stupid Rappers going on his platform 😂

    • @gracebayclt5511
      @gracebayclt5511 4 місяці тому +46

      Some black men running over there making him relevant.

    • @robertamccartney5500
      @robertamccartney5500 4 місяці тому +3

      🏆

    • @Bluejacket4life2
      @Bluejacket4life2 4 місяці тому +11

      Hes always been a vulture

  • @ChocoBeauty8
    @ChocoBeauty8 4 місяці тому +165

    Not Like Us
    all Summer 24

    • @elbruces
      @elbruces 4 місяці тому +7

      And BBL Drizzy covers.

  • @GLEN515
    @GLEN515 4 місяці тому +53

    Thing about Vald being a music critic is he never ask the guest that are in the music business about music .

    • @tracphonevirtualmagazine
      @tracphonevirtualmagazine 4 місяці тому +1

      Yeah he does.

    • @GLEN515
      @GLEN515 4 місяці тому

      @@tracphonevirtualmagazine so you capping for Vald ? I call bullshit a that jew talk about is somebody getting killed or drug crimes . Every once in a wild he hates on nas .

    • @TheLegendaryAryeh
      @TheLegendaryAryeh 4 місяці тому

      Vlad is a culture vulture

    • @rororidley5829
      @rororidley5829 4 місяці тому

      Vlad didn’t @princeton when he apologized the way he did multiple times when he was talking 💩. We have to gatekeep our culture and cancel any and EVERY one who doesn’t respect us.

  • @jasonkieler5584
    @jasonkieler5584 4 місяці тому +82

    When I saw Drake making a song with Sexy Red, it confirmed him as a culture vulture. Huge mistake.

    • @nanan4421
      @nanan4421 4 місяці тому +1

      How?

    • @bleepbloop7039
      @bleepbloop7039 4 місяці тому

      nah he likely is a part owner of Gamma so he was promoting one of his artists, thats why ross is bitter and why snoop didnt raise a fuss over the ai stuff

    • @mrworkowt5419
      @mrworkowt5419 4 місяці тому +5

      My daughter was upset about that and she loves Drake

    • @nanan4421
      @nanan4421 4 місяці тому

      @@mrworkowt5419 what’s the difference between Meg and SexyRed?

    • @mr.nyceguy7800
      @mr.nyceguy7800 4 місяці тому +3

      ​@@nanan4421 what's the difference between Drake and Vanilla Ice?

  • @musiqwriter
    @musiqwriter 4 місяці тому +181

    As a Black Torontonian understand he's not Black by Toronto standards. He appropriates from Jamaicans, Somalis and other Black communities in Toronto and then Americans think he represents us. He doesn't.

    • @DGodwithaplan2
      @DGodwithaplan2 4 місяці тому +15

      Wow!!!

    • @TrillEverything
      @TrillEverything 4 місяці тому

      So Drake is just white culture?

    • @kbennettproductions
      @kbennettproductions 4 місяці тому +35

      @musiqwriter You’re 100% correct. I'm also a Torontonian and NO ONE cared about this beef until we heard about the shooting. He doesn't represent Black Canadian culture and I don't recall anyone obsessing over Drake on this side of the border like they do in the US (both love and hate). Most Black Canadians are like, “Y’all bought him, so you keep him.”

    • @Alloyd876
      @Alloyd876 4 місяці тому +22

      😂yooooooo Canada deporting drake is wild ASF 😂😂😂😂

    • @XaraK1
      @XaraK1 4 місяці тому +19

      Thats what I keep saying to people. In most places outside the U.S. Drake isn't considered Black, so altho I think it's fair for the Americans to dissect him from that lens since he's taken on their culture, but people seem to not understand that he's cos playing precisely because he doesn't identify with Blackness at home either.

  • @rororidley5829
    @rororidley5829 4 місяці тому +33

    Drake was battling Kendrick, while Kendrick was battling for the SOUL of hip hop culture.

  • @DisplacedDetroitDiva
    @DisplacedDetroitDiva 4 місяці тому +51

    Love to see Sunn here!

  • @DisplacedDetroitDiva
    @DisplacedDetroitDiva 4 місяці тому +141

    The vandalism smells like self sabotage... don't really see Kendrick fans moving like that

    • @KarenHunterShow
      @KarenHunterShow  4 місяці тому +34

      someone else said that, too...interesting.

    • @w1lsons482
      @w1lsons482 4 місяці тому

      Apparently Drake and the Weeknd are fighting, what happened in Toronto has nothing to do with Kendrick! The media is putting out false narratives!💯

    • @KevinGloverpost24
      @KevinGloverpost24 4 місяці тому +22

      That is London hooligan behavior definitely on brand

    • @renewilson2540
      @renewilson2540 4 місяці тому +5

      I completely agree!

    • @Catchthiswaver
      @Catchthiswaver 4 місяці тому

      I suspect it’s The Weekend’s camp. The other cultures within the diaspora are tapped in and in the same way black Americans have they foot on the neck of neocolonial people like drake and Candace Owen

  • @muadhnate
    @muadhnate 4 місяці тому +53

    Watching Ak have mini meltdowns has been hilarious though.

  • @mainframe4051
    @mainframe4051 4 місяці тому +60

    I must say Yvette Carnell, Antonio Moore and ADOS were right all along. Black American culture is unique within itself along with its experience. If you are not steeped in that culture and try to pose as if that experience is/was fully yours, you will get a song called ";They not like us".

  • @marciaabrams2421
    @marciaabrams2421 4 місяці тому +15

    This is why cole apologised. Drake played Cole telling him it was about their whiteness. Someone then explained to him that it was about him being a colonizer. DJ Vlad is upset because the song describes him and his colonizer behaviour

    • @yusefnegao
      @yusefnegao 4 місяці тому

      Not everyone takes offense colonizer given the fact they are the ones that one and you live in a society they built

    • @marciaabrams2421
      @marciaabrams2421 4 місяці тому +2

      @@yusefnegao okay you definitely need to start reading also using a dictionary and I am not going to educate you

    • @yusefnegao
      @yusefnegao 4 місяці тому

      @@marciaabrams2421 according to Webster dictionary the colonizer settles and area and takes political control over the indigenous peoples. I don’t see how that is supposed to be some major put down or shame tactic the only shame should be on the colonized

    • @rororidley5829
      @rororidley5829 4 місяці тому

      Vlad didn’t @princeton when he apologized the way he did multiple times when he was talking 💩. We have to gatekeep our culture and cancel any and EVERY one who doesn’t respect us.

  • @TT-ib4gf
    @TT-ib4gf 4 місяці тому +24

    We are too quick to invite folks to the cookout. Love both of you!!!

  • @makeitmakesense2616
    @makeitmakesense2616 4 місяці тому +21

    Im patting myself on the back because the ancestors told me in 2018 not to fool with that DJ Vlad and I pretty much put anyone who did his show in the same box as ....... Let me be quiet.......but i knew it and i was right
    I need this win for myself cause Prof Hunter has GATHERED ME in her past videos ive been watching
    All love lol😂

    • @makeitmakesense2616
      @makeitmakesense2616 4 місяці тому

      3:53 FAIL UP - whew chhillle, I could've gone down that path in my life but the ancestors told me to sit my tail now

    • @rororidley5829
      @rororidley5829 4 місяці тому

      Vlad didn’t @princeton when he apologized the way he did multiple times when he was talking 💩. We have to gatekeep our culture and cancel any and EVERY one who doesn’t respect us.

  • @BigWoodzCBCL
    @BigWoodzCBCL 4 місяці тому +10

    First time I seen u speak on it it sounded like this was not something u would normally touch on. But it's a conversation that is needed. Kendrick is the face of Hip Hop that the culture needs! It has always been a counter culture and has been trying to get high jacked by the corporate authorities for years so that they can control the youth. It's one of the last few dominating forces we control! So it should remain that way!

  • @supercali6777
    @supercali6777 4 місяці тому +1

    Ooo the Dynamic Duo. I ❤ this pairing. More please. ❤❤❤

  • @mostofus99
    @mostofus99 4 місяці тому +6

    Hey Sunn!!! Two of my fav people.

  • @Mahogany635
    @Mahogany635 4 місяці тому +3

    Karen you bring it everyday. I learn whats going on in the world, in our culture, politics…
    I love it!❤❤❤

  • @raineyj560
    @raineyj560 4 місяці тому +6

    I will not watch ANY white person react to Kendrick, i refuse.

  • @makeitmakesense2616
    @makeitmakesense2616 4 місяці тому +5

    5:14 say what you want Wendy Williams was a fabulous dj back in her day

    • @Rainbowsun1
      @Rainbowsun1 4 місяці тому

      I miss Wendy, she is an ICON

  • @renee3044
    @renee3044 4 місяці тому +3

    Kendrick Lamar is that dude for removing copyrights so all the YTubers that review and or simpley play his song make money (monetize. The people that didn't covert it is playing his song so they can get a check.

  • @systacee
    @systacee 4 місяці тому +5

    I made a comment about how HARD Drake's "R" is when trying to say the N word...purposefully!! He means the hard R.

  • @deborahfrederick916
    @deborahfrederick916 4 місяці тому +7

    I LOVE Both of you ado Avery Much! ❤❤❤. I saw Hotel Rwanda when it was released,I was horrified and traumatized.
    Girl, but that Purple and Yellow, though.🎉🎉🎉🎉

  • @MyBathBakery
    @MyBathBakery 4 місяці тому

    @1:41 Vic Mensa had Academiks SHOOKETH ‼️😂🤣‼️

  • @carolrobinson4788
    @carolrobinson4788 4 місяці тому +6

    💃🏻💃🏻💃🏻💃🏻💃🏻💃🏻🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @rororidley5829
    @rororidley5829 4 місяці тому +1

    As a Black American culture, we must become gatekeepers the way other cultures do. Everyone can’t come to the cookout.

  • @LunchboxLex
    @LunchboxLex 4 місяці тому

    Turns on Drake:
    People: This is the best elevator music I ever heard!
    IYKYK 😂😂😂😂

  • @AfronerdRadio
    @AfronerdRadio 4 місяці тому +8

    A lot of points were missed in this exchange. Overall I am reticent to calibrate one's blackness in this climate. The question remains...when will antiblackness stop and be exorcised from much of what could be classified as current corporate sponsored black pop music? Why should Drake be singled out when his music is indistinguishable from the rest of what could be called "N___ga " music ( a word that is said every THIRD word, lyrically)? The REAL insidious point is that pro blackness or black pride can't seem to be interjected in our music the way it ONCE was and the fact that it is not being asked for has been normalized. All the prostitution rap (think Megan thee Stallion having a sit down with the Clintons and Maxine Waters calling her "audacious") and still dancing using Malcolm X's imagery (on SNL a few years ago) while professing victimhood simultaneously. We don't have the right to critique Drake's blackness if most of what is being promoted is ACTUALLY ANTITHETICAL TO BLACKNESS by most of the commercial black acts anyway....am I wrong? #afronerdradio

  • @wrinkleface6490
    @wrinkleface6490 4 місяці тому +3

    Listen to Drakes earlier music a lot less N bombs

  • @debrawhite6145
    @debrawhite6145 4 місяці тому

    I don't even know what the beef is about. I just know that there is one, and who the rappers are. Hopefully, cooler heads will prevail.

  • @toddgoza3522
    @toddgoza3522 4 місяці тому

    Strange as rap beef the things they are saying is to disrespectful but it’s seems a lot of artists don’t respect Drake let alone like him I guess this is been going on for while cause all of them made songs with him

  • @eg3186
    @eg3186 4 місяці тому +7

    I never understood the Drake hype

  • @wraithx7
    @wraithx7 4 місяці тому +3

    So if Vlad can't comment on Hip Hop because he isn't apart of the culture, then we can't comment on any artform or sport that was created by white people. No one has the right to tell someone that they can't comment on any type of art or entertainment because they aren't apart of the culture. And yes, any artform that is public domain can and should be commented on by anyone who enjoys and purchase that artform. So I have no problem with Vlad criticizing the mix of Kendrick's song. You guys are acting like he was trying to take Drake's side. FYI, Vlad has admitted that he is a guest in Hip Hop. And lets keep it real for a second, there are definitely some people who hate both Vlad and Drake because they are "WHITE/PART WHITE" Jews and are making money off of Hip Hop. They especially hate Vlad because he a "white" Jewish man who has created a very popular and financially successful Hip Hop platform. As for how many black people use the "n-word" with a hard R, a lot of black people use the word with a hard R. Specifically our parents. That all being said, Drake is most definitely a phony and a studio gangsta, just like Rick Ross and most rappers who came into the game over the last 30 years.

    • @KarenHunterShow
      @KarenHunterShow  4 місяці тому +5

      he's not in hot water for commenting on hip hop, it's what happened when he was told to mind his business regarding the cultural implications of Kendrick Lamar and ATTEMPTING TO GET SOMEONE FIRED.

    • @wraithx7
      @wraithx7 4 місяці тому

      @@KarenHunterShow yes, I know. I was just saying that all of those people (including the Professor who he tried to get fired) who say that Vlad should shut up and stay out of this because he isn't a part of our culture are wrong and acting like those racist white people who either won't allow or flat out tell black people to stay out of an artform or sport that they created (or even tell us to stay out of artforms that we created like Country and Rock music) are wrong. As for Vlad being in hot water for trying to get that Professor fired, we have JUSTIFIABLY SO done or attempted to do the same thing to white people who have said similar ignorant things towards us that the Professor had said? And while I think that Vlad shouldn't have gotten all in his feelings over what she said to him, his actions weren't wrong. He most likely just had enough of bigoted black people and bots constantly calling him a "culture vulture" and telling him to stay out of a Hip Hop conversation because he is white.

    • @KarenHunterShow
      @KarenHunterShow  4 місяці тому +4

      @@wraithx7 no, they aren't acting like any racists...it's an oppressed group, who created a thing out of that oppression, saying "you don't have a dog in this race, stay out..." it's not the same and you saying it is doesn't make it so. you clearly have no historical or cultural understanding or knowledge to make the comparison between Morgan Jerkins telling Vlad to mind his business and a racist.

    • @wraithx7
      @wraithx7 4 місяці тому

      @@KarenHunterShow I'm black/African American and I'm descendent from American slaves. I have been listening to Hip Hop/Rap music from the very beginning before Rap became popular with the mainstream. I also know our history as well as history of other oppressed groups. Saying to a white Jewish person "you don't have a dog in this race, stay out...", is just as wrong as a white Jewish person saying the same thing to us (black people) about Hollywood and the American film industry since the Jews (another oppressed people) invented Hollywood (there's both a book and a documentary about it and Dr. Boyce Watkins often talks about it on his channel). And we all know, that Hollywood despite being founded and run by Jewish people has been (and continues to be) very racist towards black people and we are often the first to be kicked out and/or blacklisted in Hollywood whenever we speak out against the racist and other problematic practices in Hollywood. So lets not act like bigotry can't come from people from oppress groups.

  • @tynece8594
    @tynece8594 4 місяці тому +9

    I do not listen to drake i never have liked Mr. Degrassi as a rapper. I don't know if he's even a good actor honestly so I did not know the hard "er" thing smh. Just another reason not to like him

  • @timwoodruff1585
    @timwoodruff1585 4 місяці тому

    What's happening there is only indirectly related to what happened during the Great War. We will have to have 2 days of remembrance now 😢

  • @Tyda777
    @Tyda777 4 місяці тому +1

    WHO is the "THEY" in "Not like us"???
    They not like us Canadian, Black Canadian, biracial 🤔

  • @makeitmakesense2616
    @makeitmakesense2616 4 місяці тому

    12:04 whew cause i really like one dance on these breezy spring days......r Kelly ignition has been retired, i now really listen to the words of Diddys song ugh, im an elder millennial, its the worst 😂 yall ain't say nothing about Gen X or the boomers, at least let me get to my mid 50s where my give a damn will need a tune up

  • @tp091541
    @tp091541 4 місяці тому +1

    Drake music is not on my playlist at all.

  • @erica_em
    @erica_em 4 місяці тому +2

    Kendrick also has nothing but kind things to say about Eminem and and Mac Miller who, in Kendrick's experience, have been respectful to and supportive of hip hop culture and the concerns of Black people. While race is an important element of the culture, it's not ultimately the thing Kendrick is taking issue with. He makes that clear by calling Adonis "a Black man" in Meet the Grahams which was produced by Jack Antonoff, a white Jewish producer who's known for working with Taylor Swift. He also defends Serena Williams and, by extension, her white husband who Drake called a "groupie" on his last album. I feel like the people thinking Kendrick's point is simply about race are telling us more about their perspective than they are about his. They don't get it because, well, they're not like us.

  • @Tyda777
    @Tyda777 4 місяці тому

    Can Black america call themselve AFRO-american and not african-american?
    Does it mean that black is only for Afro-american ?
    Can you accept when Dominicans or SA [Tyla] or Ethiopians say "me no black" ?
    Let's have that convo

    • @Candy004
      @Candy004 4 місяці тому

      African Americans, also known as Black Americans or Afro-Americans, are an ethnic group consisting of Americans with partial or total ancestry from any of the Black racial groups of Africa.[3][4] African Americans constitute the third largest racial or ethnic group in the U.S. after White Americans and Hispanic and Latino Americans.[5] The term "African American" generally denotes descendants of Africans enslaved in the United States.[6][7]

  • @isiahsmith8128
    @isiahsmith8128 4 місяці тому

    Good ol fashioned crabs in a barrel smh

  • @amarbyrd2520
    @amarbyrd2520 4 місяці тому +2

    I don't know why Drake even started with Kendrick but somebody should've stopped that before it started

  • @jjfbond
    @jjfbond 4 місяці тому

    I know plenty of Black people who use the hard r.

  • @Catchthiswaver
    @Catchthiswaver 4 місяці тому

    2 truths can exist. Vlad was dead wrong. However, he is a DJ so he has the expertise to speak on the musical take of the song

    • @KarenHunterShow
      @KarenHunterShow  4 місяці тому +3

      expertise? nope.

    • @Catchthiswaver
      @Catchthiswaver 4 місяці тому

      @@KarenHunterShow in the realm of music, yes. DJ’s are disc 💿 jockeys (regardless of their ethnic background). The comments I saw from him was on the musical arrangement, not a hot take on the lyrical content.
      Imagine denying a doctor to speak on a medical issue because the patient analyzed is of a different ethnic background.
      We can hold him accountable without disregarding fact and reasoning.

    • @KarenHunterShow
      @KarenHunterShow  4 місяці тому +2

      @@Catchthiswaver you are comparing him to a DOCTOR?!...stop.

    • @Catchthiswaver
      @Catchthiswaver 4 місяці тому

      @@KarenHunterShow and you’re inflating to intentionally miss the point. I ASSumed your platform was a space for such conversation but I suppose I was wrong. Be blessed ✌🏾

    • @KarenHunterShow
      @KarenHunterShow  4 місяці тому +2

      @@Catchthiswaver you do ass Ume a lot.

  • @living_water-
    @living_water- 4 місяці тому +2

    Eminem is of the Culture. Its not a white or black thing. Em took the knee during super bowl half time show, wrote songs about racial injustice, defended Colin Kapernick. He doesn't just associate with black culture during good times.

  • @jenniferblow6594
    @jenniferblow6594 4 місяці тому +3

    This has to stop!!! Drake is half Black and I have never heard him say anything disparaging about Black people. Why are the standards different for Black men who want to be with and put white women on to our culture!!! Why do they get a pass???

  • @HoffaHilton
    @HoffaHilton 4 місяці тому

    Let's not get things confused.. drizzy is good artist but not better than kdot.. musik please,🤔

  • @therealiest981
    @therealiest981 4 місяці тому +1

    I have a question about all of this. Is Drake not a part of our race. By the metric they use, that if you have one drop of black in you. That you are black to them. The song to me is talking about all the races who copy our culture but hate our people. Don't forget the ones that say they are not black all the time.

    • @SCHRODINGERS_WHORE
      @SCHRODINGERS_WHORE 4 місяці тому

      drake isnt american, why is he doing american rap and trying to corner the market while rippping off other artists.

    • @Candy004
      @Candy004 4 місяці тому

      People are confusing race with ethnicity. Kendrick is talking about culture not race. We use terms interchangeably a lot , a good number don’t pick on the context of what’s being said.

    • @yendaaaa
      @yendaaaa 4 місяці тому

      The one drop rule was made by racists. “One drop and you’re tainted’. That is quite literally the history of that. Everyone needs to cease following that shit

  • @DanielIhechi-c9w
    @DanielIhechi-c9w 4 місяці тому +1

    American so jealous that Canadians bodied them in music

  • @jjfbond
    @jjfbond 4 місяці тому

    Drake will always be an actor

  • @tap_water872
    @tap_water872 4 місяці тому +4

    Drake isn’t a culture vulture, he’s from Toronto. And he said that “mandem” thing when he was like in his early teens doing himself on TV. Accents aren’t vulturish.

    • @muadhnate
      @muadhnate 4 місяці тому +9

      Excuses. Excuses.

    • @ddneq677
      @ddneq677 4 місяці тому +2

      If it's not authentic, then yes it is.

    • @tap_water872
      @tap_water872 4 місяці тому +1

      @@ddneq677 How do you have an unauthentic accent? He wasn’t mocking anyone. He’s embracing where those things are. Is Tory Lanez faking his Caribbean accent?

    • @yendaaaa
      @yendaaaa 4 місяці тому

      @@tap_water872 what Caribbean accent? Are you from toronto? 😂There’s a ‘toronto man’ accent which is that cringy accent that unfortunately makes its way to the internet and is the way people think we speak. Thats the accent drake puts on. Never heard Tory speak with a ‘caribbean accent’ 🤔

  • @johnwilson994
    @johnwilson994 4 місяці тому

    The only thing I disagree with this guy on his view on Trump as opposed to Biden even though he didn't he didn't juxtapose the two there's no doubt Trump is a way better option than Jim Crow Joe 😉

  • @pglanville
    @pglanville 4 місяці тому +3

    That woman was hella disrespectful to Vlad. She was outta pocket.

    • @gracebayclt5511
      @gracebayclt5511 4 місяці тому +25

      She stated her opinion that he shouldn’t be in black folks business. He involved her employer, like a Chad.

    • @carrington2949
      @carrington2949 4 місяці тому +1

      He had every right to debate his point right then and there. His genre is the rap game and he has encountered that before. However he chose to be a little Cowardly Karen and attempt to get someone fired.

  • @danahart3082
    @danahart3082 4 місяці тому

    ua-cam.com/video/NOaaBoY3Wqo/v-deo.htmlsi=ipLVJkDJIBd3VML_
    Blind date reference
    31:35 mark

  • @dennistaylor6342
    @dennistaylor6342 4 місяці тому +96

    All them folks, need to stay out of black folks business!

    • @ginaj617
      @ginaj617 4 місяці тому

      You wouldn’t have a business 😂😂

    • @ginaj617
      @ginaj617 4 місяці тому

      @@Mrs4everBlessed OK I could care less about you or your life so could you not at me again? …perfect 😂😂😂

  • @Matthew-xl5bc
    @Matthew-xl5bc 4 місяці тому +212

    Even as Canadian, Drake not discussing racism in his music has always been a problematic element of his music and prepetuates the issues of colorblindness that exist in Canada.

    • @muadhnate
      @muadhnate 4 місяці тому +13

      I didn't think about this one.

    • @jamelcroley4562
      @jamelcroley4562 4 місяці тому +10

      Color blindness does not exist in Canada

    • @MegaFANTAZTIK
      @MegaFANTAZTIK 4 місяці тому +19

      He's not of the culture that's why he never talks race, he walked a sanitized path for money & fame but it didn't stop him from taking the persona a street kat

    • @sherimosley3095
      @sherimosley3095 4 місяці тому +20

      But yet ninja is flying out of his mouth every other word… he is a fugazy!!

    • @THEsoulquarian
      @THEsoulquarian 4 місяці тому +31

      Agreed. I’m not Canadian but I’m aware that it’s not some “racial utopia.” There’s a long history of racism in Canada.

  • @thebutterflygarden1138
    @thebutterflygarden1138 4 місяці тому +48

    🔆 Black Twiiter has declared "Not Like Us", as the new anthem for the Foundational Black American movement.

    • @Tyda777
      @Tyda777 4 місяці тому +1

      So can you call yourself AFRO-american and not african-american?
      Can you accept when Dominicans or SA [Tyla] or Ethiopians say "me no black" ?
      Let's have that convo

    • @briss8297
      @briss8297 4 місяці тому +7

      @@Tyda777No one cares about them saying they not black. We don’t care no more get over it.

    • @carrington2949
      @carrington2949 4 місяці тому

      @@Tyda777No one cares but black American dudes who are trying to smash them. Leave everyone else out of it. 😭

    • @JancieDavis
      @JancieDavis 4 місяці тому

      How they gonna just make others stuff fba,make sense before saying weird stuff

    • @JancieDavis
      @JancieDavis 4 місяці тому

      ​@@briss8297we'll make your own fba song dang🤨

  • @Champagnenasir
    @Champagnenasir 4 місяці тому +44

    Slavery line a big misstep for Drake

  • @kokikodevereaux4932
    @kokikodevereaux4932 4 місяці тому +185

    This battle really showed the cultural divide. Yt commentators can't grasp that this is about gatekeeping culture, nor does Drake. They are so mad that someone has confronted the fact that they are co-opting culture.

    • @mzfbados1294
      @mzfbados1294 4 місяці тому +26

      Which we should have been doing all along. Gatekeep black culture.

    • @Bluejacket4life2
      @Bluejacket4life2 4 місяці тому

      White ppl know nothing about history or culture they get if from tv and movies and they think they know us...i proudly wear my culture vulture shirts

    • @kaliha55
      @kaliha55 4 місяці тому +17

      ​​@@mzfbados1294💯💯💯 when you know better, You do better. As black people we tend to welcome those around us.. Bc of our plight. But, we have learned it gets us no where.

    • @XaraK1
      @XaraK1 4 місяці тому +6

      ​@@kaliha55 True. We are too xenophiliac for everyone but each other

    • @choosewisely6705
      @choosewisely6705 4 місяці тому

      THIS!!!!!!!!!!! They know whats up!
      ✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾🦍💨💨💨💨💨💨💨💨💯

  • @bbills4186
    @bbills4186 4 місяці тому +38

    Karen couldn't have asked for a better guest on today's show. He can go toe to toe with the best.

  • @robertsssssss
    @robertsssssss 4 місяці тому +40

    Drakes is a actor, been that since he was a teenager.

    • @nanan4421
      @nanan4421 4 місяці тому +1

      So was PAC…

    • @raven3moon
      @raven3moon 4 місяці тому +2

      ​@@nanan4421Pac was a rapper first and foremost, from the beginning. Unlike Drake.

    • @epicwizedome
      @epicwizedome 4 місяці тому

      Watch Degrassi! It is a teen show.

  • @sherimosley3095
    @sherimosley3095 4 місяці тому +30

    But we let these people in our space… WHY????I know yall don’t like this word but we need to cancel all the infiltrators

    • @ddneq677
      @ddneq677 4 місяці тому +10

      This is what i been asking. Kendrick had no problem collabing w him in the past did he not? They help these vultures get fame and then wanna call them out as vultures when their ego is challenged. Stay consistent. Dont let them in to begin with.

    • @marylander3798
      @marylander3798 4 місяці тому +7

      I think youre overestimating the power we had to remove him at his prime. its white fans that kept him relevant not black fans. black hip hop fans never really accepted Drake like that but his fan base wasnt us.

    • @3eyedfish
      @3eyedfish 4 місяці тому

      Byeeeer

    • @andreabrown4541
      @andreabrown4541 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@marylander3798so another Elvis!

    • @JancieDavis
      @JancieDavis 4 місяці тому

      Agree wish blk men stop being so friendly..😊​@@ddneq677

  • @sherelldavis2180
    @sherelldavis2180 4 місяці тому +6

    The problem is that we let everyone into our conversations. Other cultures and races protect their spaces

  • @kellogsbigmix
    @kellogsbigmix 4 місяці тому +33

    Our experience is different...we have created a genre where people who don't even like the culture and music have prospered. We have influenced the world good bad or indifferent no matter what you think we've lived much of the experience, pain and joy that has been rapped!

    • @tecumseh4095
      @tecumseh4095 4 місяці тому

      Influenced which world??

    • @kellogsbigmix
      @kellogsbigmix 4 місяці тому +3

      @@tecumseh4095 Rap has influenced the world.. sorry globally as a genre!

    • @tecumseh4095
      @tecumseh4095 4 місяці тому

      @@kellogsbigmix I have never heard rap music in Asia.

    • @kellogsbigmix
      @kellogsbigmix 4 місяці тому

      @@tecumseh4095 youtube it

    • @kellogsbigmix
      @kellogsbigmix 4 місяці тому +5

      You're trolling me right?

  • @mcclendonreport
    @mcclendonreport 4 місяці тому +35

    Basically Drake is a dark skinned whyte guy.

    • @tecumseh4095
      @tecumseh4095 4 місяці тому

      And J Cole, too?

    • @kmross73
      @kmross73 4 місяці тому +2

      He really is!😂

    • @InspiredByEbonyLove
      @InspiredByEbonyLove 4 місяці тому +4

      @@tecumseh4095culture…culture… culture

    • @mcclendonreport
      @mcclendonreport 4 місяці тому +9

      @@tecumseh4095 Wrong answer. This is about perspective. Drake thinks like that label head that rules him. His outlook is not like us.

    • @kevinjackson6420
      @kevinjackson6420 4 місяці тому +1

      Tanned

  • @blackheywoodheywood
    @blackheywoodheywood 4 місяці тому +35

    They not like us, if you're not ADOS you are not like us.

    • @blackheywoodheywood
      @blackheywoodheywood 4 місяці тому

      @@caribbeanbantu And DRAKE is a CANADIAN citizen and Jewish. He's a minstrel and some people are attempting to defend him mocking ADOS.

    • @ianditwin7443
      @ianditwin7443 4 місяці тому

      ​@@caribbeanbantu😅

    • @roxyroxii1152
      @roxyroxii1152 4 місяці тому +3

      ADOS men get money and make more Drakes. Biracial, suburban. Look around you.

    • @blackheywoodheywood
      @blackheywoodheywood 4 місяці тому

      @@roxyroxii1152 It's white men who make Drakes and all others who are nothing more than minstrel acts

    • @wahoo4uva
      @wahoo4uva 4 місяці тому +3

      @@caribbeanbantuif his dad wasn’t a consistent, active presence during the most formative years of his upbringing (which he’s insinuated was the case) then culturally, Aubrey is Canadian, not American, and has not had an ADOS experience.

  • @sonicarter1108
    @sonicarter1108 4 місяці тому +6

    Very tired of Vlad injecting himself in conversations that don't concern him...I was hot when he fixed his lips to talk about Taraji...I wish my favorite comedians would stop doing interviews with him. Akademics is a straight clown...sooo🤷🏾‍♀️ don't need any other options on that part...this was a great conversation and the breakdown was perfect

  • @nephiilim
    @nephiilim 4 місяці тому +10

    Vlad said "it takes away from the song" which is a false objective statement. That's the problem. It's fine if he said it turns him off from the song but to make it objective is where he messed up. Vlad can't speak for black folks or anyone else for that matter except him

    • @rororidley5829
      @rororidley5829 4 місяці тому

      Vlad missed the purpose of the whole battle and tried to shrink it down to the mix. He weaponized his Whiteness real quick.

  • @l.m.stewart
    @l.m.stewart 4 місяці тому +12

    Karen & Sunn! Ooo wee! This is fire!!!🔥👏🏽🥳🙌🏽🌹

  • @jessicapatrickjessicataylo5285
    @jessicapatrickjessicataylo5285 4 місяці тому +9

    Hhhiiiiiii sun!!!! I have missed you on my shorts but thank goodness you are here!!!!

  • @ebluemagick
    @ebluemagick 4 місяці тому +9

    Online media has become similar to lawyers chasing ambulances. Everyone will talk about whatever generates the most attention. I dont think anyone believes ANYTHING is out of line to talk about anymore unless it gets them de-monetized. This algorithmic system dictates this behavior. I've seen entire channels pivot from one thing to the next to produce ad revenue.

  • @jessicapatrickjessicataylo5285
    @jessicapatrickjessicataylo5285 4 місяці тому +8

    Thank you Ms. Hunter, you have a unique voice for our culture while simultaneously knowing that there are other struggles that matter and I LOVE IT!!!

  • @marylander3798
    @marylander3798 4 місяці тому +6

    we need to have more conversations like this about cultural blackness.

    • @twitterbeefradio208
      @twitterbeefradio208 4 місяці тому

      What do you think #ADOS is and have been about since 2018

  • @summer031977
    @summer031977 4 місяці тому +36

    Drake is a mix kid from the Toronto suburbs. He's not like us.

    • @bleepbloop7039
      @bleepbloop7039 4 місяці тому

      which suburb you from then?

    • @summer031977
      @summer031977 4 місяці тому

      @@bleepbloop7039 Am from your suburb.

  • @nubianprincess2771
    @nubianprincess2771 4 місяці тому +4

    Black people are NOT a monolith. I've met Black Brits, Black Canadians, etc. We may be Black, but places of birth and environments make us different. IMHO😑

    • @JonahPeterson-d7v
      @JonahPeterson-d7v 4 місяці тому

      Okay... meaning what? Wadr, but I truly mean that.

  • @jessicapatrickjessicataylo5285
    @jessicapatrickjessicataylo5285 4 місяці тому +4

    We ouchea!!!!! Yyees. He is just amazing amd i live flr his takes cuz the echo my feelings perfectly!!

  • @rebeccaalexander128
    @rebeccaalexander128 4 місяці тому +5

    Keyboard gangsters.....epic

  • @verosmitty
    @verosmitty 4 місяці тому +21

    Drake is the definition of all skin folk ain’t kin folk. Kendrick has made me so happy and proud. He bought the crown back home to America. Where hip hop is from. 🏆👑

    • @yusefnegao
      @yusefnegao 4 місяці тому

      He ain’t your kinfolk he is bi racial

  • @forsale313
    @forsale313 4 місяці тому +1

    Sounds like they need to re-release Future "Mask Off" with an updated flow. LOL

  • @kecia6545
    @kecia6545 4 місяці тому +2

    We are blaming America, but Egypt and Jordan has refused to help Palestinians.

  • @mzfbados1294
    @mzfbados1294 4 місяці тому +34

    This is our fault because we didn't gatekeep black culture. Now we're reaping the bitter fruits.

    • @roxyroxii1152
      @roxyroxii1152 4 місяці тому +2

      Isn’t Drake’s dad African American? How you keep him out?

    • @nakeiayoung2475
      @nakeiayoung2475 4 місяці тому +2

      Right!!!! Because every other genre does it… especially COUNTRY!!!

    • @nakeiayoung2475
      @nakeiayoung2475 4 місяці тому +2

      @@roxyroxii1152race, ethnicity and culture are all different things PERIOD… I can’t not tell you about the country life I grew up in the city and if I went to the country and started frontin basically the country folk would definitely look at me funny

  • @wlcoston
    @wlcoston 4 місяці тому +4

    Great discussion

  • @elijahburch6058
    @elijahburch6058 4 місяці тому +1

    We Outchea ✊🏾

  • @Seattle_Kiwi
    @Seattle_Kiwi 4 місяці тому +2

    Great cerebral and honest discussion. I’ve learned more about our culture in the past few days than in years of study and participation.

  • @TheLegendaryAryeh
    @TheLegendaryAryeh 4 місяці тому +2

    Let the gate keeping of our culture begin

  • @BallisticBevo
    @BallisticBevo 4 місяці тому +2

    He didn't challenge it. He told the truth about it.

  • @pachisi13
    @pachisi13 4 місяці тому +2

    Vic Mensa is as derivative as Drake culturally!

  • @isaacsykes3
    @isaacsykes3 4 місяці тому +2

    Mos Def said it first!!

  • @sebastianlee9969
    @sebastianlee9969 4 місяці тому +1

    Its been a campaign against our people culture for the last 150yrs. From jazz to blues,rock and roll. And yes country music formerly called folks music and black music. After Jim Crow Era of the 50s they started to appropriated our history and music by integration/stealing our music and inventions,using their Privileges kids. Drake growing up in the best private school in the country of Canada. And lived and grown up as a kid in the wealthiest community in Canada Forest Hill. Millionaire community. He's an corporate plant. Using multiple Minority traits.white Jewish under the black tan to takeover the hip-hop genre. With his 400 million dollar deal and the internet Equation controversy controls billionaire guy. Haven't you noticed that everytime you look up beyonce or Jay-Z or kendrick lamar or any other artist on UA-cam or the internet, you always see Taylor Swift or Eminem just shows up all the time. But if you look up Taylor Swift and Eminem you won't see beyonce or Jay-Z or kendrick lamar. That's why their numbers are always so much higher than anyone else. That's why Drake streaming numbers was always so high, even though when he makes the same old music with different names. Using multiple manipulative equation. And they nearly got away with it, if kendrick lamar didn't beat Drake. Thank God kendrick lamar did beat Drake. To reset hip-hop black people genre Integrity.

  • @relaxlibrary4249
    @relaxlibrary4249 4 місяці тому +2

    So many SKUs lol at the 12:07 mark.

  • @ap114
    @ap114 4 місяці тому +2

    So many SKUs

  • @rodb66
    @rodb66 4 місяці тому +2

    Hello Karen and commenters.

  • @OL_TONE
    @OL_TONE 4 місяці тому +10

    Kendrick is rich and famous, he not like us either yall lol

    • @renewilson2540
      @renewilson2540 4 місяці тому +7

      He is like us when it comes to loving this culture, which is what people relate to😅

    • @nanan4421
      @nanan4421 4 місяці тому

      @@renewilson2540how when he is standing next to the weekend who is also from canda

    • @AceFlexFitness0007
      @AceFlexFitness0007 4 місяці тому

      @@renewilson2540 he sure loves white women in private though

  • @vickiebonner4181
    @vickiebonner4181 4 місяці тому +2

    🤣🤣 hard R

  • @sheldonghorton
    @sheldonghorton 4 місяці тому +1

    Hip hop is the culture!!!

  • @dejumaboutique1305
    @dejumaboutique1305 4 місяці тому +8

    In my view, I don't think that Kendrick was coming from a nativists perspective of "you're not African-American" but rather Drake is not from and of the "hip-hop struggle/culture" he's tried to portray.

    • @nanan4421
      @nanan4421 4 місяці тому +1

      What does that mean? Because it sounds like when people say he’s not a real ninja because he didn’t do crime

    • @LosAngelesMade
      @LosAngelesMade 4 місяці тому

      Which is African-American culture, it’s one in the same.

    • @nkashamasankofa1114
      @nkashamasankofa1114 4 місяці тому

      If that's what you think then you totally missed it....

    • @backtalk9343
      @backtalk9343 4 місяці тому

      @@nanan4421the video THOROUGHLY explained the issue my
      mentally slow child.

    • @backtalk9343
      @backtalk9343 4 місяці тому +1

      @@nkashamasankofa1114they are being slow on purpose. Sunn analyzed the entire issue

  • @ilamuku
    @ilamuku 4 місяці тому

    colonizers extract and collaborators build together

  • @amerikanmelanin5281
    @amerikanmelanin5281 4 місяці тому +1

    Karen frequently has non black voices on her shows to discuss black issues.

    • @KarenHunterShow
      @KarenHunterShow  4 місяці тому +1

      frequently...really. Please list the frequent non-Black guests to talk about Black issues and the actual issues...context.

  • @Kflash3782
    @Kflash3782 4 місяці тому

    Wait until all of those B1/FBA/ADOS people start singing "Not Like Us" at the Juneteenth event in Washington D.C. this summer.

  • @kuandemarco5498
    @kuandemarco5498 4 місяці тому +1

    This battle was not about refining the culture. The culture is thirsty for anything that resembles that as possibility, but Kendrick nor Drake are worthy of being the Cultural abasadors. If anything it would be Jay Cole. He understood how the culture vultures use divide and conquer and how corny it is to fall victim to it. The so-called culture has been falling victim to that since day one. In modern times the group-think of haters has only magnified to empower haters that’s why cancel culture is even a thing. Hip was the best when the 5%ers were in the forefront. Not just in terms of the philosophy and music but the Gods epitomized how to have knowledge, be fly, get money, be players without hating or gossiping etc. They push the envelope but if one of the Gods went to far they would check themselves. Nowadays it’s just a bunch of hater fake-culture-critic crash dummies doing the work for Cointelpro. Peace!