The Rise of Microsoft Windows Part 1: Windows 1.0

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  • Опубліковано 4 бер 2022
  • Microsoft Windows has attained near ubiquity in the computing world today, running on an estimated 3 out of every 4 computers. It decisively won the operating systems battle that raged across the 1980s and early 1990s, and has no significant competitors today, with its greatest rival on the desktop, Apple, having only a 16% market share.
    Yet Windows did not win the operating system battle overnight, and its victory was far from assured. It struggled just to get its first release, and spent years facing formidable competition. Few people would have bet on Windows to eventually win, but that is just what eventually happened.
    This series will (eventually) explore Windows rise to dominance, starting from its origins all the way to its last big gamble, Windows 8.
    #documentary #windows #microsoft
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  • @brentrittenhouse293
    @brentrittenhouse293 Рік тому +173

    Dude.. I've been using and coding PCs since the 80s and have watched a million documentaries, every Computer Chronicles episode, etc. and this is by far the best video I've EVER seen on the history of early Windows. So much information I had never known. To say I rarely learn A SINGLE FACT watching a video like this is accurate, but I learned A TON here. THANK YOU!

    • @AnotherBoringTopic
      @AnotherBoringTopic  Рік тому +20

      Glad you enjoyed it and many thanks for the kind words!

    • @JonathanAgain
      @JonathanAgain 8 місяців тому

      I agree completely, a most excellent research job. I got my first experience with Windows from the first 1.0 Beta in ''82/'83 when I was running a pirate BBS. Got it from an in-house MS engineer (sent to me as a 2 lb+ bag of floppy disks) and a gaggle of us newbie geeks spent many joyous hours to get that sucker working, same with Windows Server 286 betas. We were all convinced that MS knew we deranged pirates who were brave enough to try anything and share our results with the engineers. We had a LOT of fun thanks to Xerox and MS!

    • @user-dq2zx2ei4m
      @user-dq2zx2ei4m 7 місяців тому +4

      Some people just have an inside scoop. Thanks for sharing. 😊

    • @InLightFilm
      @InLightFilm 5 місяців тому

      When will part 2 be released?

    • @AnotherBoringTopic
      @AnotherBoringTopic  5 місяців тому +3

      @InLightFilm probably not before the end of the year, it’s two hours long and editing is proceeding very slowly.
      However I am buying a new laptop that should speed things up a bit, enabling me to more easily work on editing in my spare time.

  • @MysteriousSlip
    @MysteriousSlip Рік тому +47

    For context around 5:05, the setup cost in Jan. 2023 dollars was a bit over $250,000 and each additional 'star' was nearly $55,000.

  • @trunk_slamchest
    @trunk_slamchest Рік тому +24

    i love how any video regarding the PC industry in the 80s and 90s features a clip from Computer Chronicles at some point. What a legendary show. RIP Gary Kildall

    • @AnotherBoringTopic
      @AnotherBoringTopic  Рік тому +8

      Such an incredible show, probably the greatest archive of the personal computer revolution in existence. Stewart Cheifet was such an amazing host, and he and Gary Kildall complemented each other perfectly.

    • @medes5597
      @medes5597 9 місяців тому +6

      Stewart insisting that its archive get donated to the Internet archive was one of his greatest contributions to sharing computer history.

  • @Johnmfoss
    @Johnmfoss Рік тому +39

    I was in industry during this period. We used HP desktop computers for our design work, writing our own software. Our first PCs were IBM 286 machines running DOS 3.0. When Windows 3 was released, we made the transition, buying box sets of Windows instructional videos on VHS tape. It was a phase where more time was spent learning the OS than doing our job, but that didn’t last too long. Thanks for the video - it was well done.

    • @pinnaclesystemsgroup6472
      @pinnaclesystemsgroup6472 11 місяців тому

      Does anyone remember the Intel 386 486 585 (Pentium) processor handbook ?

    • @artsmith103
      @artsmith103 5 місяців тому

      Can you confirm the time period you mean? Seems you mean 1987-1988.

  • @juamont
    @juamont Рік тому +24

    I love this, always hated how all documentaries about the topic in youtube are just 5 minute quick bites. This is EXACTLY what I was looking for! keep it up, pumped for part 2

    • @beardsntools
      @beardsntools Рік тому

      Nah these quick documentaries are great, this is boring, monotonic and puts me to sleep.

    • @david-spliso1928
      @david-spliso1928 2 місяці тому +2

      ​@@beardsntoolsBut you just HAD to comment on it. Lol 😂

    • @beardsntools
      @beardsntools 2 місяці тому

      @@david-spliso1928 Yeah so?

  • @punishedgondola1814
    @punishedgondola1814 Місяць тому +4

    hour long videos of old computer stuff? This is right up my alley.

  • @colinofay7237
    @colinofay7237 10 місяців тому +32

    Looking forward to your part 2, this was beautifully detailed, I've watched this twice now.
    Please don't be concerned with video length, the people will watch it.
    Hope part 2 is out soon!
    -c

  • @igorfs93
    @igorfs93 Рік тому +25

    Please don't let us down for the rest of this series! Been watching your channel front to back after getting recommended this. Fantastic work!

    • @AnotherBoringTopic
      @AnotherBoringTopic  Рік тому +9

      So glad you are enjoying the videos! I promise part 2 is coming, the rough draft of the script is 70% done and it’s the next major video I’ll be working on after my current one.
      Unfortunately it’s probably going to be at least 2-3 months, my current video (fall of OS/2) is around 90 mins long and I’m not sure how long it will take me to edit it.

    • @beardsntools
      @beardsntools Рік тому +1

      @@AnotherBoringTopic Here's a tip: Stop making such long videos, it's ok to leave out some details. It's a youtube video, not a book. Also here's the easiest fix.. raise the volume in your editing program, it's too quiet.. you are at like -6db try to get as close to 0db as possible, without clipping.

    • @DelsinM
      @DelsinM Рік тому +6

      @@beardsntools I agree with the audio recommendation, but the details are what make this stuff fascinating.

    • @DelsinM
      @DelsinM Рік тому +4

      @@AnotherBoringTopic Part 2 better ship by the time the snow falls! ; )

    • @mandelbro777
      @mandelbro777 Рік тому +8

      @@DelsinM yeah, I don't mind waiting, it's the detailed social history which defines this UA-cam creator. If it's removed for brevity, then his videos will just become as generic nd valueless as many other video on tech history. I love this creators work precisely because it is longform and unique, produced by a person clearly passionate and learned in the topic.

  • @franklincerpico7702
    @franklincerpico7702 Рік тому +114

    You deserve far more subscribers than you have based on the quality and depth of information you have in your videos. This documentary about the Windows is so fascinating.

    • @AnotherBoringTopic
      @AnotherBoringTopic  Рік тому +11

      Appreciate the compliment, glad you enjoyed it!

    • @robertbruner7429
      @robertbruner7429 Рік тому +3

      @@AnotherBoringTopic Of course the secret key to a million subscribers is to post pictures of kittens and puppies on FB....and never, ever post anything causing people to think :) Seriously though, it's like a doctoral thesis on the history of Windows. Bravo!

    • @mbe102
      @mbe102 Рік тому +2

      Just got another one, from me!

    • @MrXeCute
      @MrXeCute Рік тому +2

      I would subscribe, but poor quality sound and, most importantly, the fast paces, edited voiceover is to much to handle for non-native English people. And yes, I do undrstand quite alot of it, but must scroll back every 10 secs to fully understand and not miss anything that is said. Such a shame, for what seems a quite interesting history lesson.

    • @danny8bit
      @danny8bit Рік тому +1

      @@AnotherBoringTopic Excellent work, where I'd be most interested in your OS/2 video, that hopefully recognizes that IBM was doing something quite special with OS/2 2.1, that I had the pleasure to experience at work, back in the mid 90s, where their preemptive multitasking was on entirely different level and was insanely smooth, and I could be compiling our Borland C++ Panel+ (a windowing and mouse API) DOS app in the background, while playing around with native OS/2 GUI apps, such as asteroids, where I could have multiple asteroids windows open without them dropping a single frame!
      If you haven't seen the 1993 HAL-PC OS/2 NT Shootout, where David Barnes thoroughly embarrassed Microsoft with their stolid NT 3.1 demo, you're in for a real TREAT, but don't get me wrong, as I had a successful career in part thanks to MS Windows, where for the 32-bit app we released, we used both Win32s to target 16-bit Windows (development was purely on the rock-solid Windows NT, with an MS SQL Server backend), plus incorporated the SQL based Jet database engine, that powered Access, for local database support (as it was royalty free), that I was instrumental in championing, where an MS representative even visited our office in the UK to see how they could better serve us! ua-cam.com/video/-DAojx2Hgec/v-deo.html (I've skipped ahead to the OS/2 part, which is quite possibly the most enthusiastic tech demo in history!).

  • @burntoutelectronics
    @burntoutelectronics Рік тому +21

    This really went far further in depth than I hoped for, thank you for making this for everyone to see and I hope the sequel is made soon!

    • @AnotherBoringTopic
      @AnotherBoringTopic  Рік тому +3

      Glad you enjoyed it! The rough draft of part 2 is mostly done, I’ll be working on it once I’m done editing the current video. Hopefully be done and released before the end of May(but no guarantees, I am really bad at estimating how long projects will take) :D

    • @mgoad08
      @mgoad08 Рік тому +2

      @@AnotherBoringTopic You need Bill Gates "encouraging" you to work faster :) LOL

    • @iatroupap
      @iatroupap 10 місяців тому

      ​@@mgoad08 😂😂😂

  • @snorman1911
    @snorman1911 2 роки тому +61

    Awesome! Can't wait for part 2.

    • @ZelenoJabko
      @ZelenoJabko Рік тому +11

      You gonna wait a while...

    • @BryanChance
      @BryanChance Рік тому +1

      Super interesting..well researched.

    • @HashCracker
      @HashCracker Рік тому +5

      Oh man, i didn't realize before investing the time there were no other parts

    • @greatquux
      @greatquux Рік тому +4

      I am also eagerly looking forward to part 2 but it was definitely worth the time to see this early part. Thank you!

    • @JacobMoen
      @JacobMoen Рік тому

      @@HashCracker it was a too boring topic, l guess (points at the name of the channel) 😜

  • @billwall267
    @billwall267 Рік тому +11

    Looks like the YT algo is recommending this vid to people. Well deserved. Subscribed and looking forward to part 2.

  • @kdrum90
    @kdrum90 Рік тому +24

    This video is a seminal work. So much details packed into the masterful presentation! Looking forward to the second part. Thank you 🎉

    • @AnotherBoringTopic
      @AnotherBoringTopic  Рік тому +4

      Appreciate the compliment! Thanks so much for taking the time to watch and comment!

  • @Melzasx
    @Melzasx Рік тому +48

    This video is truly underrated. Your work deserve huge more mate!

    • @AnotherBoringTopic
      @AnotherBoringTopic  Рік тому +4

      Appreciate the compliment, glad you enjoyed it!

    • @ZelenoJabko
      @ZelenoJabko Рік тому +1

      @@AnotherBoringTopic before summer 2023? Don't promise what you cannot deliver.

    • @trainskitsetc
      @trainskitsetc Рік тому +4

      Still waiting for the sequel, the fall of curtains.

    • @scottramsey5592
      @scottramsey5592 Рік тому

      @@AnotherBoringTopic I’m I’m gonna gonna get you something from there 😊😊😊😊😊😊ppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp

    • @scottramsey5592
      @scottramsey5592 Рік тому

      @@AnotherBoringTopic I’m so happy happy 😆😆 lol 😝 I’m a fan fan fan and and a pppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp

  • @DavidGPeters
    @DavidGPeters 6 місяців тому +2

    This is a THRILLER, way better than anything that you can find on TV. Mad respect
    🙏💚

  • @joestroup5058
    @joestroup5058 Рік тому +26

    Excellent video - many thanks for producing it. I was hoping there was a part 2 or part 3 - I'll keep an eye out for a future release.

    • @AnotherBoringTopic
      @AnotherBoringTopic  Рік тому +21

      Glad you enjoyed it! Part 2 is coming, it’s the next tech history video on my docket once I get the OS/2 video done. Still going to be a few months though, but I will do my best to make the video worth the wait.
      Thanks for watching and commenting!

    • @the2theonly672
      @the2theonly672 Рік тому +7

      @@AnotherBoringTopic you’re taking a page out of Microsoft’s book 😂 I’ll be looking out for part 2

    • @nickduplooy8845
      @nickduplooy8845 Рік тому +5

      @@AnotherBoringTopic Hey, atleast you've learned from Bill, and not overpromising on the release date, lol

    • @mityaboy4639
      @mityaboy4639 Рік тому +3

      @@nickduplooy8845 I am sure Steve Ballmer is out there somewhere shouting down at the video editor software with his title of Chief Video Editor Expert... with zero video editing experience :)
      Can you believe it ? REVERSI!... :)

    • @HashCracker
      @HashCracker Рік тому +2

      Really looking forward to part 2. Having all parts released now would be great but whaddya gonna do

  • @DataWaveTaGo
    @DataWaveTaGo 24 дні тому +1

    *Extensive, exhaustive, far reaching, informative, well paced, top notch content, a masterpiece for the Computer History Museum! Congratulations!*
    I started mini-computer H/W & S/W development in 1972 then designed & developed original business & industrial systems starting with CP/M-80 in 1979, MP/M-80 in 1981, CocurrentDOS-386 in 1988 and all of the Microsoft platforms along the way and I have to tell you, you are making me relive the days I was proud to ship product after working 80 hour weeks & going 48 hours straight. Likely only Aerospace & Weapons Development teams experienced the same crazy workloads!

  • @AlsGeekLab
    @AlsGeekLab Рік тому +24

    Anxiously awaiting the next episode! The work that must have gone into this must have been epic. So much reading and other research. Being a fellow documentary producer myself, I know how much effort these things take, so take your time, but hopefully you'll get part 2 released some time!

    • @AnotherBoringTopic
      @AnotherBoringTopic  Рік тому +10

      I really appreciate the compliment(especially from a fellow creator), thanks for taking the time to watch and leave a comment!
      It definitely takes quite a bit of time to research and write these videos, but I promise that part 2 is coming sooner rather than later :)

    • @Megaritz
      @Megaritz Рік тому +4

      @@AnotherBoringTopic Happy to hear part 2 is still coming!

    • @TonyD401
      @TonyD401 6 місяців тому +1

      can’t wait !!!!

    • @thettguy
      @thettguy 5 місяців тому

      Part 2 is vapour ware.

  • @juliusfucik4011
    @juliusfucik4011 Рік тому +42

    I used Amiga Workbench in 1988, so to me, having a GUI was the standard. However, I would not say DOS was difficult to master.

    • @judewestburner
      @judewestburner 11 місяців тому +2

      Similar deal for me. I would say the transition to DOS was aided by the Amiga CLI considering how many common commands there were, dir / cd etc

    • @Rasterizing
      @Rasterizing 7 місяців тому

      Well, considering Windows came before Workbench and MS-DOS appeared before Amiga DOS....

    • @monotonehell
      @monotonehell 7 місяців тому +1

      @@Rasterizing Windows November 20, 1985. Amiga Workbench July 23, 1985. MS-DOS August 12, 1981.Workbench was also fully multitasking while Windows was non-preemptive multitasking. Completely different hardware though. Workbench was also programmed by a tiny team of developers.

    • @Rasterizing
      @Rasterizing 7 місяців тому

      @@monotonehell In fairness, workbench was amazing - and so was most of the stuff commodore did, especially the problem solving and working around issues.
      Granted, 'bench came slightly before Windows but DOS had been around a long time before - but you're right, it wasn't nearly as advanced and couldn't really multitask, it was "emulated" by context switching.

  • @_Digitalguy
    @_Digitalguy 2 роки тому +16

    I am already half way into the video and I am so excited when another "boring" topic video is made... This is one of the most underrated channels on youtube. Amazing research work. Looking forward to the rest of the videos. Will mention this on forums when there is talk about the history of Windows

    • @AnotherBoringTopic
      @AnotherBoringTopic  2 роки тому +3

      Appreciate the compliment! It's a subject I love studying and its been great to not only have an outlet for it, but also to see other people enjoying it.

    • @_Digitalguy
      @_Digitalguy 2 роки тому +2

      @@AnotherBoringTopic I really enjoyed your IBM videos and I am really enjoying this one. This is the kind of documentary that deserves to be in a paid platform like curiositystream or similar. It's great to have it here on youtube for free.

  • @antonnym214
    @antonnym214 Рік тому +20

    Wow! what an excellent, comprehensive and robust exploration of this subject. I was a young programmer when all this was happening. I was at Comdex for the "Smoke & Mirrors" demo and saw it for what it was. Nice job. I immediately subscribed.

  • @Leipaa
    @Leipaa Рік тому +19

    Really great! Can't wait for the next installment. Hopefully it's more timely than Windows 1.01 was :)

    • @AnotherBoringTopic
      @AnotherBoringTopic  Рік тому +9

      Given how slow I am at creating these videos, I don’t dare make any specific promises about when part 2 will come out…however Microsoft did set the “timeliness” bar really low ;)
      My goal is to put out part 2 before the end of the year 🤞

    • @MATRIXULSTAPANULOUTVERSAL
      @MATRIXULSTAPANULOUTVERSAL 8 місяців тому

      SO...WHEN IS PART 2 COMING OUT REALLY?

  • @headrushindi
    @headrushindi Рік тому +10

    Love the video , however just a bit of a suggestion , when editing the video try boosting the audio volume, or use a compressor to level the volume. My audio was nearly on full but could barely hear you. When editing your audio should be well into the yellow , but not clipping red.

    • @AnotherBoringTopic
      @AnotherBoringTopic  Рік тому +6

      Excellent feedback and advice, thank you. Audio has been a perennial issue for me, I do use a studio mic but figuring out the right levels and such has been something of an ongoing experiment.
      I think you will find the audio quality far better on the next computer history video, the audio quality came out very nicely and I have been editing the levels to stay right at the the top of yellow but not cross into red.

  • @RussTrotter
    @RussTrotter Рік тому +10

    What a gem of a video! heck, the foundation of my career's journey began in these days and I had no idea all this was going on. My first glimpse at Windows was called "Windows 286" and it was part of a bundle of my Zenith 286 PC, circa 87. It was so horrifically slow and klunky on this PC i vividly remember thinking, "Wow, looks cool but it needs more horsepower than I have! oh well, back to DOS"

    • @TheScotsalan
      @TheScotsalan 2 місяці тому

      GEM. What a blast to the memory. GEM was a GUI of that era. Ventura desktop publishing as I recall. If you were doing publishing, you got GEM, and I think Wordstar too ?

    • @zoomosis
      @zoomosis Місяць тому

      @@TheScotsalan WordStar never ran under GEM. You might be thinking of 1st Word, released for the Atari ST in 1985 and later ported to the IBM PC as 1st Word Plus.

    • @TheScotsalan
      @TheScotsalan Місяць тому

      @@zoomosis Yup. I just remember different platforms for different things. Or different interfaces anyway. I am sure I had GEM at one point at work. On a 286 ICL with 287 maths chip..1MB ram, 20MB HDD. It was bought for CAD, and we ran fastcad on it on dos 3.3. Just reminising 😂👍

    • @Innesb
      @Innesb День тому

      @@zoomosisI used GEM on my own Atari ST, and then a few years later on PCs when supporting users of planogram software (designing layouts for convenience stores) in the UK.

  • @bertnijhof5413
    @bertnijhof5413 Рік тому +9

    Good explanation of the somewhat chaotic development process. By the way I still run Windows 1.04 in Virtualbox on a Ryzen 3 2200 G with 8MB of RAM. The minimal amount of memory Virtualbox supports and I don't even complain about the 18MB of video memory Virtualbox needs to run. I have all Windows releases from 1.04 (1987) till 11 (2022), including the NT releases of the nineties.
    Windows 1.0 is highly modern again with its tiling windows manager :)

    • @zoomosis
      @zoomosis Місяць тому

      It's funny that 4 MB is the smallest amount of memory you can allocate to a VM in VirtualBox, an absolutely incredible amount of RAM for most PCs from the '80s. Even VBoxManage will return an error if you try allocating less memory:
      VBoxManage: error: Invalid RAM size: 1 MB (must be in range [4, 2097152] MB)

  • @ethanepperson-jones9952
    @ethanepperson-jones9952 Рік тому +12

    Just happened across this video and channel, and Good Christ, you do not have enough subs compared to the quality of your vids. Good, interesting, and captivating long form video essays/histories are very hard to find. The reality is that its less profitable to do this format, so I really appreciate what you do! Stoked for the rest of the series!

    • @AnotherBoringTopic
      @AnotherBoringTopic  Рік тому +3

      Appreciate the compliment, glad you are enjoying the videos!

    • @atlantic_love
      @atlantic_love Рік тому

      Who cares what you think about good quality is? The content creator knows what he's doing.

    • @ethanepperson-jones9952
      @ethanepperson-jones9952 Рік тому +1

      @@atlantic_love you do realize I am complementing his work... Right?

    • @atlantic_love
      @atlantic_love Рік тому

      @@ethanepperson-jones9952 You realize that it's spam to constantly post these comments over and over, yes? People generally do not come to comments to read dissertations on video quality, or watch someone simp for likes and subscribes. It's nauseating.

    • @ethanepperson-jones9952
      @ethanepperson-jones9952 Рік тому +1

      @@atlantic_love I posted, 1, count them, 1 comment, to thank the creator for their work, that they posed for free to a public site. You know what you have the right to do? Not read the comment section.
      Clearly, you don't have enough happiness or entertainment in your life. I really don't understand why you felt it was necessary to scroll down to the comment section of a video you clearly did not care for, and be a obnoxious to people trying to be friendly. You really are so special ❤️🥰

  • @s13_boyy82
    @s13_boyy82 Рік тому +5

    This was my first video I saw of this channel, and it’s one of the most interesting I’ve ever seen! 🤟 keep it up man can’t wait for part 2!!!

  • @modelermj7982
    @modelermj7982 Рік тому +5

    Fascinating. Your efforts are much appreciated. Looking forward to the next instalment.

  • @YaroslaffFedin
    @YaroslaffFedin Рік тому +4

    Really loved this video. I'm a software developer myself currently working in a medium-sized company and this story eerily resembles same disfunction that is going on here. It's hopeful to hear it didn't work out at first, and there were so many course changes, and empty promises. And yet it worked out in the end.
    My first windows was 98, so and i have a lot of nostalgia for those simplier times. I have never been aware of what win 1 really looked like.
    Looking forward to further chapters.

  • @Shronkey
    @Shronkey Рік тому +10

    Truly great video! Looking forward part 2!

    • @AnotherBoringTopic
      @AnotherBoringTopic  Рік тому +2

      Glad you enjoyed it!

    • @ZelenoJabko
      @ZelenoJabko Рік тому

      @@AnotherBoringTopic where is part 2? You like lying to your audience?

    • @AnotherBoringTopic
      @AnotherBoringTopic  Рік тому

      @@ZelenoJabko Part 2 is coming, it covers Windows 1 post launch up to Windows 3.0. I expect to record the audio in a few weeks, although there is one video ahead of it so it will probably be at least a couple months before it's ready for release.

  • @maciej.zagozda
    @maciej.zagozda 2 місяці тому

    Fantastic series. Very well prepared. I'm waiting for the part three already.

  • @rhrabar0004
    @rhrabar0004 2 місяці тому +1

    Thank you for making this documentary.

  • @zoomosis
    @zoomosis Місяць тому +1

    Great video. The only thing that bothered me is that Digital Research's GEM Desktop wasn't mentioned, since GEM 1.0 for the PC was released a little before Windows 1.0, in February 1985. The GEM developers had similar challenges getting it to work on PCs of that time, writing drivers, etc. Until the massively successful release of Windows 3.0 in 1990, GEM was still considered a legitimate competitor to Windows. I recall it was bundled with Amstrad's PC clones in 1989, sold here in Australia in Myer department stores.
    (Though maybe you mentioned GEM in Part 2!)

  • @BluFlame3712
    @BluFlame3712 9 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for all your hard work in producing this thorough yet concise enough to digest documentary. I've been looking for a video such as this for sometime and am well pleased.

  • @Obie327
    @Obie327 Рік тому +6

    Found this Rise of Windows topic very interesting... I'm very enthusiastic in seeing the next part series. I'm very much looking forward to your future content. Thank you for detailed informative content.

    • @AnotherBoringTopic
      @AnotherBoringTopic  Рік тому +1

      So glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment, I really appreciate it :) I have been obsessed with computer history for about 15 years now and it’s been great to have an outlet for it here on UA-cam

    • @Obie327
      @Obie327 Рік тому +1

      @@AnotherBoringTopic Most Welcome and excellent work putting that video together. I'm actually watching another one of your videos. (RYAD) Have a great weekend dear Sir. Cheers!

    • @beardsntools
      @beardsntools Рік тому

      Didn't enjoy the video, it's too long and monotonic, but yes Microsoft really did succeed at making and maintaining the world's favorite operating system

  • @JustPlayingTheClassics
    @JustPlayingTheClassics Рік тому +1

    Dang, thought for sure part 2 would be up since I'm viewing it so much later, but alas! Will check out your other material while I wait. Good stuff! 👍👍

    • @AnotherBoringTopic
      @AnotherBoringTopic  Рік тому +1

      I am really slow at content creation, but I promise Part 2 is coming. It’s the next video I’ll be working on (script rough draft is largely complete) after I finish editing Fall of OS/2. I only just started editing it though, so it will be probably be a bit before it’s done.

    • @JustPlayingTheClassics
      @JustPlayingTheClassics Рік тому +1

      @@AnotherBoringTopic It's great stuff, don't get me wrong. Thanks for your hard work! 🙏 Product is great. Checking out IBM now. 👍

  • @schiavonir
    @schiavonir Рік тому

    Great video - I love this type of stuff. Eagerly awaiting part 2 and beyond.

  • @CartoonNetworkGlitches
    @CartoonNetworkGlitches 9 місяців тому +2

    I absolutely loved watching this video it's great how much information you managed to fit in just one hour worth of video however I feel like the level of the audios is a bit too low but besides that I can't wait for you to release part 2.

  • @tanyacharbury4728
    @tanyacharbury4728 Рік тому

    Fascinating! Thank you.

  • @AOKComputers
    @AOKComputers Рік тому +1

    This video is fantastic, and I cannot wait for the other parts albeit they'll be spars, and I get that... I can tell you're putting real passion into these videos/documentaries. Keep it up.

  • @kermit88a
    @kermit88a 9 місяців тому +1

    Love this. Can't wait for Part 2!

  • @myOwnWorstEnemy12
    @myOwnWorstEnemy12 2 роки тому +4

    Most underrated channel on youtube. Seriously. Geat work

  • @MrChipTalk
    @MrChipTalk Рік тому +1

    Very much looking forward to the next episode! Subscribed!

  • @johnmiller4859
    @johnmiller4859 6 місяців тому +1

    Excellent job, thank you.

  • @ianbell8701
    @ianbell8701 2 місяці тому

    Excellent presentation.

  • @northhankspin
    @northhankspin Місяць тому

    Well done

  • @vxrdrummer
    @vxrdrummer 5 місяців тому +1

    I don't have a computing background, but I love learning about how all of these day to day computing technologies (that we take for granted nowadays) were developed. Thank you.

  • @wyattpugsley
    @wyattpugsley 4 місяці тому +1

    This is going to my new gold standard for tech video essays. This blows almost everything else out of the water. Amazing work.

  • @BoothTheGrey
    @BoothTheGrey Рік тому +3

    Great video. What I still dont understand is how Microsoft could ignore the impossibility to create a GUI in graphics mode cause the hardware was not ready for this. They had to move along some further years with the textmode graphics. Therefor I find it interesting that the most used file manager that were also used to start programs were published after Windows 1.0 - especially Norton Commander and XTree.
    Maybe many programmers were frustrated about how bad Windows 1 was so they started to create these Tools? Especially the late 80s and early 90s was - as I remember it - the time of "PC Tools" and "Norton Utilities". And Microsoft put a file manager into DOS themselves in DOS 5.0 (the DOS shell).
    Looking foward to your next video and finally... I subscribed to your channel cause your historical research is just awesome.
    Keep up your great work.
    I am not sure if this is really something a large audience will appreciate - but I assume many people who watch it DO appreciate it a lot, like I do.

  • @themegaman91965
    @themegaman91965 11 місяців тому +1

    I can seriously appreciate this, given that Windows 95 was my first OS. It is amazing to see how far we have come in the past 28 years, let alone 42 in this. I can see why DOS has been considered historical, since 2000, after the final official version of MS-DOS. Keep 'em coming; love these videos!! Oh, and it's incredibly clever how the name "Windows" came about! Suitable name!!

  • @davegrodzki
    @davegrodzki Рік тому +4

    This was fantastic! Particularly illuminating to watch in the context of current news stories about tech companies overselling demos or poaching technologies from less agile firms. Cannot wait for part 2… you’ve earned a new subscriber!

  • @CarlosPerezChavez
    @CarlosPerezChavez Рік тому

    Very well researched, entertaining and informative video. Thank you!

  • @pickoftheglitter
    @pickoftheglitter 4 місяці тому +1

    Awesome video and research. I hope to see the next chapters soon!

    • @AnotherBoringTopic
      @AnotherBoringTopic  4 місяці тому +1

      Glad you enjoyed it!
      Part 2 is coming, I’ve edited 52 minutes of it so far (out of 1:54). Should hopefully be ready for release in mid-January

  • @msthalamus2172
    @msthalamus2172 Рік тому +4

    Very well done summary of the volatile early 80s at Microsoft! I'm looking forward to the next segment.

  • @McVaio
    @McVaio Рік тому

    This was a really good video. Despite already knowing a lot about the history of Windows, I still learned a ton! Can't wait for part 2 to be published.

  • @TechnoTinker
    @TechnoTinker Рік тому +2

    Thanks for the fun and informative rewind into Windows history. I started with 3.11 and got to try 2.0 once or twice. Thanks for making it audio-only friendly as well.
    I'm not sure what tools you have available, but for future videos, can you normalize the volume level up a bit? Adrian's Digital Basement about blew out my speakers when he came up next in my queue (his levels run a bit hot). :D

    • @AnotherBoringTopic
      @AnotherBoringTopic  Рік тому +2

      Audio is definitely something I am still working on learning. I like to think that each of my videos shows improvement, but I am still finding the right balance. Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment and some constructive feedback!

  • @maximilianoadl
    @maximilianoadl 11 місяців тому +1

    This channel is gold. Thanks for your work.

  • @judewestburner
    @judewestburner 4 місяці тому

    This documentary is easily the best and most unique coverage of this moment.
    I'm going the next one is out soon, and thank you again.

  • @SabinStargem
    @SabinStargem 2 роки тому +3

    Good to hear this documentary. Looking forward to future episodes. :)

  • @barryschalkwijk9388
    @barryschalkwijk9388 11 місяців тому +1

    Can't wait for part two. I'm sure it will come when ready, you pour a ton of effort in these so well worth the wait. This really was captivating.

    • @AnotherBoringTopic
      @AnotherBoringTopic  11 місяців тому +6

      Glad you enjoyed it and I really appreciate the kind words!
      Over the past weekend I decided to split Part 2 into two…parts…since the script was heading towards two hours long. So part 2 will cover Windows 2, and part 3 will cover Windows 3.0. Ideally I will record both parts simultaneously in 2-3 weeks, goal is to get them out only a month or two apart. Of course I am terrible at estimating how long a given video will take, so please take that timeframe with a healthy dose of skepticism ;)

  • @noth606
    @noth606 Рік тому +1

    Great detail given! I always wondered about some aspects of the relations with xerox etc, this filled in that detail that I hadn't found before, thank you!

    • @AnotherBoringTopic
      @AnotherBoringTopic  Рік тому

      Glad you enjoyed the video and thanks for taking the time to leave a comment!
      Xerox itself…oh boy is there a lot of confusion around PARC and what it did and did not do. At some point I am definitely going to do a video on it

  • @RoamingAdhocrat
    @RoamingAdhocrat Рік тому

    I enjoyed this immensely. Subscribed!

  • @tedhodges
    @tedhodges Рік тому

    Excellent work! I’m very excited for the the next part(s)!

  • @r1ichyb
    @r1ichyb Рік тому +3

    I very much enjoyed this documentary and am looking forward to part 2. I'm particularly interested in how windows replaced unix workstations for 3D modelling pipelines

  • @jsc77
    @jsc77 2 місяці тому +2

    Thank you for fixing the narration pace in part 2, much better! I would ask you to consider redoing part 1 with a correct narration pace as it's too difficult to follow and almost made me very reluctant to watch part 2, to spare me the listening agony.

    • @AnotherBoringTopic
      @AnotherBoringTopic  2 місяці тому

      Thanks for taking the time to comment and for the constructive criticism, I really appreciate it!
      I like to think I get a little bit better with every video, and I am always learning more about how to speak correctly into a mic, edit with natural pauses, and balance audio levels.
      Unfortunately when I did RoW1(and other videos up until 2023), I was still operating under the assumption that I needed to speak at my normal speaking pace. These days I try to speak at about 3/4 my normal speed or so, as that seems to be about the right pace. I also thought that when I edited the audio, I needed to remove all of the pauses.
      I do manually edit everything, we don’t use any tools to auto edit, audio is recorded into Audacity and then exported to DaVinci Resolve as a .wav for editing.
      Unfortunately there is no way to redo a video (part 3 of the IBM PC series also has audio problems, I inadvertently messed up the levels and it’s too quiet). Removing an older video with as many views as RoW1, even though I’d be reuploading it, could potentially make UA-cam penalize our channel as that’s about a sixth of our cumulative views that would just vanish.

  • @tsimeone
    @tsimeone Рік тому +2

    What a great video. Looking forward to the next one. New sub. 🙂

  • @wirebrushofenlightenment1545
    @wirebrushofenlightenment1545 Рік тому +1

    Superbly detailed account. Look forward very much to part 2.

  • @serloinz
    @serloinz 6 місяців тому +1

    i didn't realize Amiga Workbench was out in oct.'85 ..a month before windows.. it shows how far ahead of everything the Amiga Workbench was ..blows my mind

  • @wyleong4326
    @wyleong4326 2 місяці тому

    Such a great business study video on leadership, management, development and design.

  • @glasser2819
    @glasser2819 Рік тому +1

    this is brilliant presentation, txs
    👏

  • @KingDestrukto
    @KingDestrukto Рік тому

    Great video, can't wait for the next part!

  • @osu9400
    @osu9400 Рік тому +2

    In my more mature years, I look back and appreciate the contributions Microsoft has made towards usability and most importantly lowering the cost of computing to the point where it was within reach of most people to own one. They've had their up and downs, but their contributions to equipping the world with usable technology has been amazing.

    • @lexlayabout5757
      @lexlayabout5757 Рік тому +2

      Maybe you should watch the video again - Microsoft did not contribute the useabilty of the GUI, they copied others before them. Hardware costs were reduced by companies sourcing from the Far East. Microsoft software was never cheap - Amstrad's boss for example complained that the cost of Windows was the most significant single factor in the cost of their PCs.

    • @osu9400
      @osu9400 Рік тому +1

      @@lexlayabout5757 It doesn't surprise me that the OS is more expensive than any individual HW component. Still, you can't ignore how drastically their work lowered the price of operating systems and made computers more affordable for families. We never saw consumer market penetration until Windows 3.0 was released. It was an incredible game changer and one of the top 10 moments in computing history.

  • @Andre-vn1sb
    @Andre-vn1sb Рік тому

    Very intresting - thank you!

  • @LPArabia
    @LPArabia 2 місяці тому +1

    I really appreciate the narration and valuable extracts of historical information. More Boring Topics please!
    Now if excuse me I need to dig the source code of Windows 1.0, hopefully I can find it.

  • @techdistractions
    @techdistractions Рік тому +1

    Great effort! Thank you

    • @AnotherBoringTopic
      @AnotherBoringTopic  Рік тому

      Thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed it!

    • @techdistractions
      @techdistractions Рік тому +1

      @@AnotherBoringTopic sure did - I have spent A LOT of time with Windows 3.0 (and 2.11) on 8088 / Real mode and you can really feel the compromises and the (almost maniacal) memory management. It's amazing they pulled it off - but I am always left wondering how much better things would've been if they simply omitted it and started with 286 mode (standard) from the get-go.

    • @AnotherBoringTopic
      @AnotherBoringTopic  Рік тому +1

      Given his opinion of the 286, Gates probably would have loved to just skip it AND the 8088 and go straight to the 386

  • @thefrecklepuny
    @thefrecklepuny Рік тому +1

    A very detailed and concise documentary. Just subbed as a result.

  • @kevinsmith2933
    @kevinsmith2933 Рік тому

    Love this video... hopefully part 2 comes out eventually

  • @StrivingForPerfection
    @StrivingForPerfection Рік тому +1

    This is great. I subscirbed, but can't wait for part 2

  • @electricalmayhem
    @electricalmayhem 9 місяців тому

    Really looking forward to the next part!

  • @myronplichota7965
    @myronplichota7965 2 місяці тому

    new subscriber sez: Bravo Sir! I was surprised by the knee-slapping humor.

  • @frankj.hoffmann7030
    @frankj.hoffmann7030 Рік тому +1

    Great content, man!! Kudos go out! Please do continue!!

    • @AnotherBoringTopic
      @AnotherBoringTopic  Рік тому

      Glad you enjoyed it! The script for part 2 is mostly complete, and I hope to record it by the end of this month. I'm still early in the editing process for the current video (fall of OS/2) though, so the earliest it will be done is probably end of April/early May.

  • @marcoan7onio
    @marcoan7onio Рік тому +3

    This video was the opposite of boring as it was really interesting and informative. Keep up the good work.

  • @jacksong6226
    @jacksong6226 Рік тому

    How have I not seen this channel until now??? Subscribed!

  • @stevewinner
    @stevewinner Рік тому +3

    Part 2 please. I'm a nerd who loves this stuff like my grandpa loved old history Channel ww2 documentaries 😁

    • @AnotherBoringTopic
      @AnotherBoringTopic  Рік тому +1

      Thanks for watching and appreciate the compliment! Part 2 is coming, I promise :) But it will probably be at least another 3-4 months

    • @stevewinner
      @stevewinner Рік тому +2

      @@AnotherBoringTopic sweet... Btw, was there a part 2 for the Steve Jobs Next video you did? That was excellent and was looking to watch that but couldn't find it

    • @AnotherBoringTopic
      @AnotherBoringTopic  Рік тому +1

      That one has been stuck in limbo for well over a year. I intended to get it out the door this past fall, but I am just not happy with the script currently. Until that changes, it’s unfortunately on the back burner.

    • @stevewinner
      @stevewinner Рік тому +2

      @@AnotherBoringTopic totally understand and thanks for replying. There's at least one guy hoping to see that but I know your videos must take a LOT of effort/time, so I'll hope to see part 2 one day... Keep doing what you do, it's really good 😊

  • @trwijbenga
    @trwijbenga Рік тому

    Thanks for making this, very interesting and well made

  • @magnum333
    @magnum333 Рік тому +5

    Not boring at all. Extremely interesting. Waiting for part 2.

    • @AnotherBoringTopic
      @AnotherBoringTopic  Рік тому +2

      Glad you enjoyed it!

    • @Tolppu
      @Tolppu Рік тому +2

      @@AnotherBoringTopic when you make next video from 1986-2023?

    • @Tolppu
      @Tolppu Рік тому +1

      it would take just one freaking part 2???

    • @AnotherBoringTopic
      @AnotherBoringTopic  Рік тому

      In lieu of making a six hour video, part 2 will solely cover Windows 2 and 3. It may stretch to Windows 3.1 but I’m betting that will be the start of part 3.

  • @stanguay169
    @stanguay169 11 місяців тому

    Excellent video, waiting for the other parts!

  • @craigrholmes
    @craigrholmes Рік тому +1

    This video is an excellent piece of work. You have a new subscriber sir.

  • @larsulrich2761
    @larsulrich2761 Рік тому +1

    Very interesting Windows documentary. Looking forward to part 2.

  • @whophd
    @whophd 10 місяців тому +1

    I can’t stop thinking about this video days later! I really want to see Part 2 because I first got to use Windows right at the end of the v2.11 era with a runtime version bundled with (what was then) the only GUI word processor, Ami Pro.
    We made a few wrong bets back then, using features instead of momentum to make plans, and invested heavily in Ami Pro because it looked like the future more than Word for DOS. (I’m fascinated by Part 1’s implication that Word for Windows was kind of happening even before Word for DOS … I knew about Word for Macintosh though).
    Both Windows 2 and Windows 95 resembled the Mac more than Windows 3 did, and Windows 2 still worked fully & comfortably in a monochrome mode. I still remember vividly the first time I launched the Windows 2 UI, and all the work that went into it was clear with its intentions and parallels to the Mac. I mostly had experience with DOS, Mac, GS/OS and GEOS for Apple II, so there were many monochrome UIs floating around before 1990. The world of colour computing was still pretty rare before VGA became the baseline with the 486 in the 1990s.

  • @HashCracker
    @HashCracker Рік тому +1

    Part 2 asap please! Great freaking job bro

  • @yatta4059
    @yatta4059 6 місяців тому

    What a refreshing and informative documentary! Can't wait for part two!

  • @ReactCosmetics
    @ReactCosmetics 5 місяців тому +1

    Your research is remarkably good.

  • @nolatux
    @nolatux Місяць тому

    Back in the late 80's, our college's computer lab had Wang Word Processors (which we used to write our research papers with), and a few PC's with Windows 1 and I remember a buddy of mine hyping up on how great Windows and using MS Word was. At the time, I took little interest in it and trotted on with the WWP and eventually moved on to Word Perfect 5.1 in a DOS environment.

  • @peberdah
    @peberdah 2 місяці тому

    Very welcome documentary, I had learn so many things about this crazy development. Both Apple an Microsoft had miss the A4 paper page simulation of the Xerox project. It was evident that on the standard PC, you can create a semi graphic interface only, To create a GUI you have to supply a graphic card anyway, with serial mouse interface, own processor and memory, using pipes in DOS 3.3 or environ variables for inter tasks communication.

  • @vincewilson1
    @vincewilson1 Рік тому +1

    Great job. I was a teenager during those years and I say you nailed it.

    • @AnotherBoringTopic
      @AnotherBoringTopic  Рік тому

      Appreciate the compliment, glad you enjoyed the video! I did my best to do justice to it, it’s such a fascinating period to study

  • @EmberwolfXR
    @EmberwolfXR Рік тому

    dude this video was amazing, and the editing fantastic. not to mention matching your video background to the white background of youtube...

  • @sjoerdglaser2794
    @sjoerdglaser2794 Рік тому +4

    That was extremely interesting. I see you have just started releasing videos again, any chance for part 2 coming out? I understand that probably takes an immense amount of work and time

    • @AnotherBoringTopic
      @AnotherBoringTopic  Рік тому +1

      Very glad you enjoyed the video, thanks for taking the time to leave a comment!
      Part 2 is absolutely happening, the script is about 70 percent done and I am very pleased with how it’s coming together.
      After I record and edit my current video project (Fall of OS/2), I’ll go full speed on windows part 2…not sure yet when it will land because I’m not sure how long it will take me to edit the OS/2 video(looks like it will be 80-90 mins long).

  • @kFY514
    @kFY514 18 днів тому +1

    One angle that I think is underexplored in most tellings of the story of Windows is hardware abstraction. Windows had drivers for all major PC video cards, from CGA to Tandy to Hercules to EGA and in some versions even VGA. And for numerous mice and printers. It even had versions for computers that weren't even real IBM compatibles, like the Zenith Z-100 or DEC Rainbow. I've even heard those early Windows releases described as abstraction layers for developers first and environments for the end users second, and Gates' original vision you mentioned seems to fit that narrative.

  • @Justathought81
    @Justathought81 5 місяців тому

    very interesting, thanks!