For me, this whole plot of Molly running away feels really forced since it could’ve been avoided if Ginger and Rocky just explained WHY they don’t go to the mainland. If they told her how they came to the island to escape from getting eaten by humans, she wouldn’t have gotten captured in the first place. Rocky even tells her about he used to be in a circus, and somehow still doesn’t tell her about what a human is! It’s the little mermaid 2 all over again with the hypocritical overprotective mother who refuses to tell their daughter critical information about what the danger is for no literally reason.
When I saw the official trailer for this movie with Ginger shutting down Molly being curious about the mainland, I had that exact same feeling that she never told the story of Mrs. Tweedy. That's a story cliche that I also can't stand, in any movie or show.
Ginger was more concerned about not bringing up the past, not wanting Molly to go down the same way as she did, and has traumatizing flashbacks of Mrs. Tweedy and being stuck in a prison.
It's hard for me to even consider watching this film because the crew purposely didn't bring back Ginger's OG Voice actress saying she is too old for the part. That's not true. Her voice actor even did a reel proving she can still do the part. It's like no time gas passed at all. She nails it. The fact she wasn't even given a fair chance puts me right off. They say the sequel is like a reboot to explain why they did the recast but that doesn't make sense as they got majority of the OG cast back. So I am utterly confused why this decision was made. 😢
@@chasehedges6775 She definitely does! If it was a simple matter of she wasn't available to play the part again or wasn't interested in reprising the role but gave her blessing for someone else to take the reins or anything that was more fair for her, I wouldn't have a issue and I would at least be willing to give the movie a shot. But the fact she wasn't even given a chance when she clearly wanted to play Ginger again is so unfair.
As someone who lives in the Caribbean where the majority of the population is only about 3 generations removed from slavery, this film really hit home. It showed the impact of the first movie and how slavery affected the chickens mindset and cause generational trauma. The effect that trama had in raising Molly was so accurate. Many parents try to protect their kids from harmful danger such as for example the effects of colonisation/rasism when we aren't truly free of it. Heck, even the real stereotype of living on an island and your kid wants to migrate to places like the UK or USA because of media showing off how great the opportunities first world countries like that have. To third world countries like ours the grandness of the Nugget factory feels so accurate when we venture into countries who are so much more technologically advanced or over the top. I still remember my sisters reaction to seeing LA for the first time and telling me what a roller coaster looks and feels like since at the time there weren't any in my country just like Molly seeing the carnival games in the movie. Other persons do migrate to then see how bad racism is and how much they hate migrants. How this utopia of promise and oppertunity collapses and its so weird to see in the movie. Chicken Run Dawn Of the Nugget also explores modern slavey and how media propaganda is used to control or how it passively shapes our mind. How the smiling chicken in the bucket is a reference to the chickens being eaten that the teenage coded Frizzel and pre teen coded Molly won't relate or understand. Or the many fake plastic colourful distractions to mask the true intentions of the factory. Being from Gen z , I loved seeing the struggle of Molly. It's something so many of us in the Caribbean experience with family, having that passion, curiosity, and ambition that our parents have lost, to venture out into a world that we are also somewhat shielded from. A real-world example is how third-world countries like mine are targeted for things like pyramid skyemes. Real problems of young girls in third world countries can experience very commonly is human trafficking, sex trading, kidnapping/rape particularly is something parents just don't know how to prepare young girls for. Culturally this dynamic between Ginger and Molly is a sweeter version of very similar Caribbean parent dynamic. I can go on. But this is just my perspective from a different cultural bg. I loved hearing yours in the video. Keep on creating such amazing videos!
I am still salty about Aardman replacing Ginger’s voice actress. They claimed she was “too old” for the part, yet they hired another actress who is the exact same age as her.
I saw the movie and it's not bad, not as great as the original but not awful. The stop-motion is still amazing, the music is nice, the action is fun. Although, a few things bothered me; - Ginger never telling Molyl about humans or her past was stupid. If she told everything to the girl, Molly won't run away. She'll still be curious about the world but would be prudent and probably won't go there alone. Hiding the truth was not a smart decision ☹ - The characters finding solutions to every problems. They need to enter the factory, imediately made a plan and made it. The chickens were stuck in the silo, they find the solution after a minute. It was rushed and felt forced. In the first movie, Ginger and her friends tried A LOT of plans to escape; it's after Rocky left that they decide to build a plane. Here, everyone is super smart for some reason. - Ms tweedey being still ALIVE after everything that happened in the first movie AND the grinder. How the heck did she survived; a machine exploding with her inside, a giant door falling on her, a machine who can kill chickens and fry them. It's the robots ducks who finally got her? I don't believe it! - Rocky was pushed aside and none of his comments made me laugh. The movie felt like a '' Girl power '' adventure and not one about family and surviving. I had a nice time with the film, it's ok. I'll give it a 6|10.
@@Calvinosaur yeah and ln dawn of the nugget he distracted Mrs Tweety enough for Molly to free Ginger and later safe his daughter my point stands the movie is mainly girl power
@@billykaplan9915 In breaking the pie machine Rocky directly saved everyone from death. This is a far cry from a short-lived diversion that buys a bit of time for a couple other characters to do a thing and is consistent with the sequel's inappropriate relegation of Rocky to comic relief. Moreover it's not the only thing Rocky did in Chicken Run. Fowler also did more in the first movie, providing the inspiration for building the plane and flying it himself. As for "girl power" consider too that most of the characters are female, as suits an egg farm.
@@Calvinosaur to be fair on dawn of the nugget there was no way for Rocky and Fowler to do as much as they did in their prequel but they did manage to do something important in a less impactful way but they did though maybe saving all the mind control chickens and the main cast counts for something
@@chasehedges6775yeah but I guess it will have an awful story because first inside out 2 is bad idea second theres one channel named called eletric dragon 505 anf he gave wish 8/10 so hell probably give inwide oit 10/10 when in reality it will be 5/10 which will annoy me more and third reason theres so reason to continue this story inside out 1 has great just keep it at that and the fact that im saying all this criticism about the idea was because eletmental sucked turning red was the worst film next to foodfight and where the dead go to die and those have been the 2 newest films from their studio i dont know but i think this movies gonna be as bad as elemental and turning red
I was really hoping they’d go into the chicken battery farms as a rescue mission to keep the real world setting from a chicken’s perspective, instead of a fantasy very fictional farm thing
Aussie Chicken Run fan here who saw it at theatres and watches many times a year since. Even had a 2000 Chicken Run calendar. The Tweedys Farm seemed so dangerous. Chickens in a Yorkshire farm set up like POW camp (not holocaust allegory as people might sugest, its still a farm.) If they were caught Ginger spent the night in solitary confinement. Mr Tweedy and the dogs patrolled and kept catching them. Danger was around every corner. They were always shown sneaking. And if they stop laying off to chop to be dispatched by Mrs Tweedy herself. Stakes are high. Ginger went from strong and brave to weak, Rocky from sly and charismatic to no braincells. And Mrs Tweedy lost all her menace and the humor was lost. The joke was Mr Tweedy kept catching them doing human thing and Mrs Tweedy dismissing it. She end up with gravy and egg on her face. Had hopes for it based on Aardmans stellar reputation. This was disappointing. Side note, the original chicks at then 🐤 were absent. Were they sent to chop? 🪓 Horror!
@eyeseeu343 There only two roosters 🐓. Rocky and Fowler. They have to be Ginger and Rockys in which case why do they spend the movie acknowledging Molly as their only chick.
While it's true that the first one was a whole lot better, I was still able to appreciate this sequel. Brings back fond memories of my childhood at the very least. The story wasn't that bad, it just could've been better.
Story was meh. They screwed up EVERY. DAMN. CHARACTER. Rocky was turned into a complete moron. Ginger became a liar or rather Ginger, the same chicken who openly told the rest of them that they were being fattened up to be slaughtered in the first movie, kept her past and truth about the outside world from her daughter. Fowler became a stereotype in the worst and wasted way. Babs, Bunty, and Mac barely had anything to do. Even Mrs. TWEEDY became less of an ultimate evil to Chickens and felt more like a nerfed threat. They didn't even MENTION Mr. Tweedy!
And not to mention ginger character assassination, where she wanted to leave the frizzle and the other chickens from Fun land farm to death rather than saving them. It completely goes against her character from the original. And yes, I know she saved them later on, but it wasn’t because she wanted to, but it because Molly wanted to.
I haven't enjoyed an Aardman film since Pirates: An Adventure with Scientists. Chicken Run 2 is easily the worst. Their stories have become so lazy. I wish they would focus on that before they greenlight new projects. P.S Chicken Run was inspired by The Great Escape that was WW2 not 1
I fairly enjoyed it. I didn’t think it was as good as the first though. Funnily enough, Sam fell (the director of this movie and also the co director of flushed away) said that this movie would be really hard to make since the og was so perfect.
I enjoyed it too. It’s been 23 years since the original movie. I remember seeing it for the first time as a child, it was the best. I even got excited for this sequel.
I liked it, you have good points and I definitely prefer the first one. Although this one was dark too. spoiler: when me and my friends watched it, we were in utter disbelief when that mind controlled hen walked into the grinder and the sounds while Ginger was trying to comfort Molly as you could hear a saw styled murder in the background. Also Mrs. Tweedy WOULD NOT DIE!!!!! She kept surviving everything! Lady is more invincible than Superman.
I'm very sorry to hear that, but I do understand what didn't work. Personally Aardman let me down with Early Man with ironically a similar problem. It also became something it didn't need to be. It should have sticked with just the story of cavemen and not become a sports movie.
The main plot of the movie was the football/soccer thing tho - that was the main plot. It was just set in the Stone Age with cavemen and that by itself is not a story. I really enjoyed it personally, especially since it used many aspects of British football tropes and jokes around it, which I’m familiar with.
You know what really annoys me? The fact that Tweedy is still alive in this movie after we were shown clear as day at the ending of the last movie that she was CRUSHED UNDER A PIECE OF WALL!! That was so satisfying to watch, and now it turns out that she’s still alive??!! Fuck me sideways..😞🤦🏻♀️
Yeah, a factory farm would have worked. Difficult for the chickens to get in and out of while having that hint of realism that made the first film interesting.
I’d say that this film was good, but only if you watched the first Chicken Run to the characters. Overall, this sequel was more of a nostalgia film than anything else, but that’s my opinion.
I watched this one first and the first one second and I enjoyed both lol (even if I do prefer the other way around so I could be hype for Mrs. Tweedy’s reveal)
No offense to Ginger’s OG actor I too think she should have been in the movie, but I actually really enjoy ginger’s new voice as she sounds a lot older showing time has passed since the first film, just my opinion.
The climax was a bit drawn out for my liking. I was internally screaming gor Ginger to hit the damn button. There was no reason for her not to do it the moment she had the chance.
TL;DR This movie is okay and has a lot of interesting themes and ideas, I just wish wished they explored the themes presented to the same extend movies like Finding Nemo explore the theme of overprotective parenting and how it effects the characters and how they learn and change by the end of the movie, making them stronger and making for a compelling story. Dawn of the Nugget is interesting because watching it, I find there are a lot of scenes which imply various and interesting themes and ideas. Ginger worrying about Molly and trying to keep her safe by sheltering her is interesting because unlike other movies with this element, Dawn of the Nugget has a whole previous movie that justifies why Ginger would feel this way, after all she went though, not wanting Molly to experience the same is understandable in this context. Also interesting to me is Molly, not in how the movie portrays her, but the themes and ideas surrounding her character, how she wants to leave the paradise Ginger and the others have built for the chickens because it is all she has ever known, and thus, desires freedom and has come to associate the island as something that contains/restrains her, in contrast to Ginger who sees the island as freedom from the farm and from danger. There is an excellent contrast of perspectives and in an alternate script, I would have loved to these themes explored, and how perspective and upbringings can change how someone feels about something, and how hard it can be to see another’s perspective on something when you’ve only known it as something different to them. Also interesting to me is Molly’s sheltered world view and how it is unwrapped by the end of the movie. The part where Ginger is hypnotised and it’s Molly’s problem to deal with was interesting because Molly has to be responsible for Ginger who is oblivious to the danger around them, forcing Molly into her mother’s shoes. The villain’s plan to make the chickens obliviously happy in their environment before being turned into nuggets was to me, a really cool concept regarding themes. On their own, these are very interesting concepts and while I like that they are in the movie at all, I feel they are not explored to the extent needed to make them truly interesting. A notable aspect of this is during the climax where Ms. Tweedy confronts Ginger, describing how she has made the chickens happy and content, as if making their lives happy before turning them into nuggets is morally righteous, something I question if Ginger (as a character) would agree with. The problem I have with the speech / rant she gives is that it borderline comes out of nowhere and doesn’t have the context needed to make it effective. I would have loved if at the beginning of the movie, it was established that Ginger was content with living the rest of her life in peace on the island, not wanting anything more, and seeing nothing wrong with that. Not only would this conflict with Molly’s desire to explore beyond the island, but it could have been a means for Ginger to see the flaws in her outlook upon hearing Ms. Tweedy’s speech, perhaps it could cause Ginger to realise she no longer wanted freedom, but comfort, contrasting with her character from the first movie (and Molly) who wanted nothing but freedom - causing her to reflect. Additionally, given that Ginger has nightmares about Ms Tweedy - I interpreted this as a subtle PTSD Ginger has after the intense experience of trying to escape the farm in the first movie. I wonder if in an alternate script, after Ginger and Molly are reunited (after Molly discovers humans eat chickens and the scene with the chicken being turned into nuggets) Ginger talks about how despite leaving the farm, she still has nightmares that never went away and not wanting the same for Molly, sheltered her to avoid that, but in doing so, left her ill equipped and as a result, she has now experienced traumatic things herself. The theme of sheltering your children and how that can result in them experiencing trauma themselves are present in the original movie, but I wished they explored this concept further, especially in its relation to the characters. While this idea has been explored in other movies, I feel it works for Ginger’s character because she experienced such horrible things in the first movie, thus, we know what she went though, thus understand her desire to keep Molly from it, and the horridness she feels when it happens to Molly, anyway, arguably because of Ginger, who didn’t do what she should have done, educate Molly on the dangers of the world. Smaller things like me wishing Ginger was hypnotised for the rest of the movie so Molly has to adapt along with the escape team being without their most valuable member and how that makes escaping with the rest of the chickens more challenging, I think would have been really interesting and have a lot of potential for Molly and the other’s character growth. I don’t want to imply the movie would automatically have been better if stuff like this was implemented, but I mention this because I can see the themes and ideas being expressed, and I can see how well they relate and interact off the characters and their previous arks and flaws, the potential is there for an suburb story that challenges and greatly changes the characters, but they don’t explore it to the extent movies like Finding Nemo explore themes of overprotective parenting and how characters like Marlin and Nemo are effected by it and how they change by the end. I don’t think the movie is bad by any means, but it leaves me wishing the ideas presented were explored to their full extent.
i agree, the first one was way more better because of how the first movie shows that slavery is bad, in dawn of the nugget its more of a mission impossible type thing
I liked Chicken Run 2 But I Definitely Understand Why People Disliked Or Hated It, Ginger Not Telling Molly About The Farm & The Tweedy’s Was So Stupid. If Ginger Had Just Told Molly Why They Shouldn’t Go On The Mainland, Then Molly Probably Wouldn’t Have Left. I Know The Plot Has To Happen But It’s So Lazy
I think the only good thing about Chicken Run II was Mrs. Tweedy’s new look. Her farm nursery looked too bright to be believable, and I’m still mad they didn’t make it look like a beach or something more visually appealing like a movie theater.
It really baffles me how they thought replacing gingers voice actress was a good idea. Every time I heard ginger speak in this movie It just sounded so off. It is VERY distracting. Zachary Levi honestly wasn’t bad because I do think his voice fits the character however like you said I absolutely HATED what they reduced Rocky’s character to! Just a dumb idiot dad. This movie had gorgeous animation but the story absolutely sucked. Makes me realize just how amazing the OG film is and it should have been left alone.
Why are we not talking about the fact Nick and Fetcher voice actors have changed Timothy, Spall and Phil Daniels are not back in this movie, and I heard some interviews of them were the voices sound exactly the same and they could easily pulled of that same performance years after the original
I didn't hate it, but i thought there was some wasted potential - Molly and frizzle should have spent more time together - I said this under other videos, but i think mrs tweedy and Fry should have been the "evil but in love couple". Instead he was mr tweedy scientist version. Repetitive and disappointing (fry is adorable tho, and i love his design) - Some characters felt like they were just...there - The factory should have been a bit more creepy and less "supervillain lair" - Mrs tweedy cheating on her husband. No. Everything happened too fast. Maybe it would have been better if they did a mini series instead of a movie. It felt like an animated series special - Mrs tweedy was a bit flanderized. She wasn't a supervillain, she was a real person who was going bankrupt. She is evil, but not that kind of evil. Her outfit is great tho - The final battle was better in the first movie. In the first it was scary, in this one they should have stopped when melisha fell into the grinder. Melisha nugget is not scary and it's very cringe to watch
Chicken Run 2 is a Unoriginal uninspired Cash Grab what felt like the first movie but actually physically bad I hated how all the characters acted here Ginger was nowhere near as likeable or memorable & Molly's friend was really freaking obnoxious and the less said about Babs the better. The movie's biggest sin was Bringing mrs Tweedy Back that was a really stupid decision in my opinion the fact that she didn't even die after falling into the machine is total BS overall I hope they don't make a third chicken run film. Lastly I really hope that current aardman don't screw up the new Wallace and gromit short film. personally I think original ideas do sell but they have to be good and well thought out Chicken run 2 was a huge step back and was never necceersry to begin with I mean whats next Flushed Away 2?
I find it funny that Zachary Levi replaced two characters in 2023 bcs the original VA became controversial for good reasons. I just know for the other role, it was largely a decision by the voice directors to not sound like the original VA. Zachary is really good at impersonations, his range is impeccable. If he wanted to do the same voice as the original VA did for the character im talking about, he could easily have. He originally did. So this might be a similar case. But this is largely an assumption made by me, so take it with a grain of salt. Still doesn’t mean I don’t miss the previous direction. 😭 But it took me awhile to warm up to Zachary’s take on the character I was talking about too and I now love it significantly more but meh, I feel like thats a different type of thing.
I kinda knew the movie was gonna be bad when they replaced the OG va for Ginger. I remember when it was first announced and she seemed SO devasted about it. Even rerecording old lines to prove she didn't sound too old and even sounded 98% the same. It definitely felt like them replacing her because she's "too old" felt like a move to ditch the old fans that grew up with the amazing cult classic and cater it to a new generation so Rocky and Ginger had to be recast to do that. It sucks, especially when almost everyone else was brought back. It's like having a family reunion but not inviting the person that started the event. I love Aardman as a studio and the wonderful people that made the animation happen, but this is one film of theirs I just can't support. That was not the right call to make.
Yeah there was recasting. Mel Gibson didn’t appear in the sequel as Rocky. I was even shocked that Melissa Tweedy was still alive especially after her now ex husband tipped the door on her. He did it as payback since she abused him and treated him like a Buffoon, that was something he should’ve done a long time ago, stand up to her. That crazy professor was even stupid enough to marry her.
#notmyginger #notmyrocky #notmynickandfetcher ( nick and fetcher were handled well I just don’t like the new voice actors and the fact that aardman gave them the emotion of sadness
Honestly, I have to agree with you here. Despite being a huge Aardman and Chicken Run fan, I thought this film was unnecessary and bad. I don’t hate it as the animation is still great and there are some creative ideas but I feel like they ruined a lot of parts of the first film for me such as pulling a Palpatine with Mrs Tweedy, just blatantly copying scenes from the first, wasted several characters and especially with how they butchered Ginger and Rocky. Incredibly hot take incoming, but I personally feel they were butchered as bad as all the hardcore Ralph Breaks the Internet haters say the characters in that film were.
Remember in the first Chicken run, when they went to all that effort to build their flying machine to escape the farm? Well, in this one they just knock up a flying cloud machine off screen in 2 minutes
You’re not alone mate, I hated it JUST as much as you did, if not more so. One thing I appreciated about the original as I was growing up was Giner’s entire personality. She carried immense compassion for everyone she cared about but she was also a strong & smart woman. I had aspired becoming something like her because I dealt with plenty of bullies as a kid & wanted to be more brave/kind into my adulthood. Not to mention I always through Rocky was written wonderfully for his part. And the genuine chemistry between the two was my favorite aspect of the film, I hoped to find love like theirs, as in something you don’t expect but once it’s there things are bliss. And the side characters were all SOOO funny to me. Fowler with his old fashioned grumpiness, Babs with her bubbling positivity, Bunty being just a total brute, Mac with her unique brains/accent, and the mice totally standing out (because they weren’t chickens nor humans) plus bringing the shenanigans. All of that mixed together made such a delicious viewing experience for me. And Tweedy was such a biiiiitch I always laughed when she got squashed. My parents for a time worried that I might’ve enjoyed violence too much cuz of that lol. HOWEVER this film was totally BLAND and just threw all of the beauty of the characters in the trash! It’s like they took the interesting “quirks” of everyone and just erased ALL other aspects of their personalities, if not changing their personalities all together. As you mentioned I HATE this version of Ginger and Rocky. And I need to address now, that the IDEA of centering the sequel around their kid sounded like an interesting CONCEPT. But the nuggets in the bucket were completely stale for me.
I grew up watching the original movie so many times as a kid, loved it so much! So when it was announced that Aardman was working on a sequel to it, I was cautiously optimistic to say the least. Now that I’ve finally seen it, I don’t think it’s as great as the first movie 🫤 It felt like just simple content for Netflix to have to entertain kids, but I feel like they’re better off watching the original. Don’t get me wrong though: the animation is great (as always with Aardman) 👍🏻 The story and setting on the other hand are the weakest aspects of it 😪
I completely agree. The film was terrible. I can't believe people who saw the original thought it was okay. I got 15 minutes in before I decided to switch it off. Thanks for posting an honest (and accurate) review instead of pandering to the hype.
Rant: Rocky was dumb and his voice doesn't sound like Mel Gibson. I wanted to see Rocky and Ginger be good parents but it was more like Ginger hiding things from Molly and Rocky being goofy and ignorant of things.
I loved this movie, even if the message has been done soooo many times before. Still, it does hold the valuable message of shielding your child from the world and from the TRUTH will make them ignorant. Teaching them about the world will help them understand the dangers better. Also about the setting, I saw it as commentary of things changing and farms getting bigger with more capacity. With today's regulations small farms just aren't profitable the way they used to when Chicken Run 1 was released. Ginger being overprotective over Molly is understandable after all the trauma she was put through during her years at the farm. Being a parent her only objective is to keep her daughter safe within the safe haven they found for themselves after escaping. I believe she trusted Molly to love it unconditionally because she loved it so without realizing Molly had no comparison. She had never experienced misery so she didn't understand why their home was better than any other place.
I don’t hate Chicken Run 2, but I do admit, this is not an Aardman film. It doesn’t even look like stop motion, and the story ISNT what Aardnam usually do. Shaun The Sheep Movie, sheep’s in the big city. Wallace and Gromit, a rabbit goes berserk on Halloween. All these are simple plots, and this is the exact opposite. It’s too over the top and bonkers. The acting also sucked. Fowler’s actor is dead so that makes sense, but his new voice actor wasn’t very good. Rocky’s and Ginger’s was also awful and didn’t need any recasting. Speaking of Ginger, this doesn’t feel like her. From a proud leader, to an overprotective mother. Yikes! Molly isn’t that interesting ether. However, this film isn’t entirely horrible. I liked the animation (obviously) and the side characters are actually pretty funny and Ms Tweedy was a likeable villain. But her new husband was unnecessary. Why do we need a new one when the old one was so much better and charming? Overall, I didn’t hate this, but it’s unnecessary and NOT like Aardman’s other films. Chicken Run: 9/10 Chicken Run 2: 4.5/10
I like some parts of it but i rather re watch the original (With is my favourite stop motion movie btw) Than ever watches this sequel again. Or at least not for a decade.
For me it was the whole plot and Molly from the very beginning as an egg was a bad kid the minute she was about to hatch and started running i knew it was going to be one of those movies. The whole situation would have been avoided Ginger let her dad tell her what they had gone through.
I feel like chicken run didnt really need a sequel. I wish they at least kept Gingers voice because she sounded the exact same. But at least this movie wasnt horrible and rushed and way too boring. But the original chicken run will always be my favourite ❤ and i wish they kept Gingers funny snarky personality. So i agree and also not really agree on some parts ❤
I strongly disagree early man was a huge disappointment than chicken run 2 because although unnecessary it was yet it wasn’t as lazy like most sequels can be.
even though I don't think it's particularly aesthetically pleasing, I think when it comes to the style of the sets such as the over-the-top super villian lair it was done as a sort of exageration of what modern day evil looks like, which is bright colours & lies we get fed in the genre of "this new thing will bring you happinesss!" & getting brainwashed for more efficient profit -- as opposed to that old style war camp sort of evil you pointed out from the original film, which, just like real history was not efficient. So I think we should give Aardman a bit of credit for branching out and not just making a replica of the first film but then most other aspects just flopped, even without comparing them to the original. Except the art. The art is obviously wonderful. Although I do NOT respect aardman for casting a different actor for Ginger because they were 'too old' what kind of bs is that she doesn't have to do f*****g stunts wtf...
Funnily enough, I agree with every one of your points and thought the same things myself while watching but I didn't hate the film. I just thought it was just an average kid's film by modern day standards... and that's about it. It wasn't particularly offensive but it was nowhere near as great as the original either.
I actually like this film. The story is wacky with the new chicken processing farm and science, funny jokes, and nice characters. At least I enjoyed it more than The Incredibles 2.
I noticed the music in the original movie from 2000 sounds like a music from real composers from a real movie but the music in Chicken Run Dawn of the nugget sucks because the composers from the first movie are the same ones from Kung Fu Panda and How to train your dragon. I did like the sequel pretty good
Honestly this movie reminds me of the HTTYD specials that had Hiccups kids in them. How in all the years of raising them did Hiccup not tell his kids how great dragons are so little so that they started hating them and wanting to kill one??? It's the same problem with this movie. How did Ginger not think it'd be smart to tell her kid about what happened and what they had to go through to live in peace and paradise??? It makes no sense and makes our smart and brave characters look so stupid just to make way for the new generation.
Great review! "We have Chicken Run at home vibes," is a great way to describe the whole movie, not just the voices. They just don't write 'em like they used to. Everything is dumbed way down for kids these days. Shame.
For me the original is a childhood classic that I love and cherish to this day and when it comes to the sequel I didn’t hate it personally, but I did think it was pretty unnecessary and didn’t live up to the original not bad or terrible just kind of ok like I had a good time watching but it’s not a movie that I would go out of my way to watch again any time soon overall I’d give it a 6/10 it was alright the og on the other hand is a 9/10
Harsh. It’s lesser than the first one yeah but it’s not a bad movie at all by any means. My BIGGEST complaint is that a lot of characters were flanderized. Like I don’t rocky being that dumb in the og. And even tho fowler is old he wasn’t that crazy.
For me, this whole plot of Molly running away feels really forced since it could’ve been avoided if Ginger and Rocky just explained WHY they don’t go to the mainland. If they told her how they came to the island to escape from getting eaten by humans, she wouldn’t have gotten captured in the first place. Rocky even tells her about he used to be in a circus, and somehow still doesn’t tell her about what a human is!
It’s the little mermaid 2 all over again with the hypocritical overprotective mother who refuses to tell their daughter critical information about what the danger is for no literally reason.
THIS
Little Mermaid 2 was alright but they definitely muddled Ariel’s character quite a bit.
When I saw the official trailer for this movie with Ginger shutting down Molly being curious about the mainland, I had that exact same feeling that she never told the story of Mrs. Tweedy. That's a story cliche that I also can't stand, in any movie or show.
@@sarahsims6164 Sooo true
Ginger was more concerned about not bringing up the past, not wanting Molly to go down the same way as she did, and has traumatizing flashbacks of Mrs. Tweedy and being stuck in a prison.
It's hard for me to even consider watching this film because the crew purposely didn't bring back Ginger's OG Voice actress saying she is too old for the part. That's not true. Her voice actor even did a reel proving she can still do the part. It's like no time gas passed at all. She nails it. The fact she wasn't even given a fair chance puts me right off. They say the sequel is like a reboot to explain why they did the recast but that doesn't make sense as they got majority of the OG cast back. So I am utterly confused why this decision was made. 😢
Exactly
Movies and especially sequels are just lazy now
The OG actress deserves better
@@chasehedges6775 She definitely does! If it was a simple matter of she wasn't available to play the part again or wasn't interested in reprising the role but gave her blessing for someone else to take the reins or anything that was more fair for her, I wouldn't have a issue and I would at least be willing to give the movie a shot. But the fact she wasn't even given a chance when she clearly wanted to play Ginger again is so unfair.
@@jeremythomaswebb1485 exactly. Just sad
As someone who lives in the Caribbean where the majority of the population is only about 3 generations removed from slavery, this film really hit home. It showed the impact of the first movie and how slavery affected the chickens mindset and cause generational trauma. The effect that trama had in raising Molly was so accurate. Many parents try to protect their kids from harmful danger such as for example the effects of colonisation/rasism when we aren't truly free of it. Heck, even the real stereotype of living on an island and your kid wants to migrate to places like the UK or USA because of media showing off how great the opportunities first world countries like that have. To third world countries like ours the grandness of the Nugget factory feels so accurate when we venture into countries who are so much more technologically advanced or over the top. I still remember my sisters reaction to seeing LA for the first time and telling me what a roller coaster looks and feels like since at the time there weren't any in my country just like Molly seeing the carnival games in the movie. Other persons do migrate to then see how bad racism is and how much they hate migrants. How this utopia of promise and oppertunity collapses and its so weird to see in the movie. Chicken Run Dawn Of the Nugget also explores modern slavey and how media propaganda is used to control or how it passively shapes our mind. How the smiling chicken in the bucket is a reference to the chickens being eaten that the teenage coded Frizzel and pre teen coded Molly won't relate or understand. Or the many fake plastic colourful distractions to mask the true intentions of the factory. Being from Gen z , I loved seeing the struggle of Molly. It's something so many of us in the Caribbean experience with family, having that passion, curiosity, and ambition that our parents have lost, to venture out into a world that we are also somewhat shielded from. A real-world example is how third-world countries like mine are targeted for things like pyramid skyemes. Real problems of young girls in third world countries can experience very commonly is human trafficking, sex trading, kidnapping/rape particularly is something parents just don't know how to prepare young girls for. Culturally this dynamic between Ginger and Molly is a sweeter version of very similar Caribbean parent dynamic. I can go on. But this is just my perspective from a different cultural bg. I loved hearing yours in the video. Keep on creating such amazing videos!
You wrote an entire essay about this topic, but I at least agree with some of it
Bro go see a publisher 😭
Very accurate especially in modern America as this country fails miserably under our weak leadership.
this comment literally slay
Wow! Very interesting perspective of the movie. You are very specific and clear on the parallels from the movie and your real life experience.
I am still salty about Aardman replacing Ginger’s voice actress.
They claimed she was “too old” for the part, yet they hired another actress who is the exact same age as her.
This movie is basically a Disney straight to DVD sequel
Which is really saying something because even some of those are better than this movie!
Not as good as the first, but i thought it was perfectly fine and still enjoyed it. Never really felt that it needed a sequel though
I always knew/felt the idea of a sequel was unnecessary.
Same.
It’s like wanting coralline to have a sequel.
@@magular7002 lets not give them any ideas.
@@magular7002 Exactly
@@zaidnail3544 Yeah, we just know they will find some way to botch it
I saw the movie and it's not bad, not as great as the original but not awful. The stop-motion is still amazing, the music is nice, the action is fun. Although, a few things bothered me;
- Ginger never telling Molyl about humans or her past was stupid. If she told everything to the girl, Molly won't run away. She'll still be curious about the world but would be prudent and probably won't go there alone. Hiding the truth was not a smart decision ☹
- The characters finding solutions to every problems. They need to enter the factory, imediately made a plan and made it. The chickens were stuck in the silo, they find the solution after a minute. It was rushed and felt forced. In the first movie, Ginger and her friends tried A LOT of plans to escape; it's after Rocky left that they decide to build a plane. Here, everyone is super smart for some reason.
- Ms tweedey being still ALIVE after everything that happened in the first movie AND the grinder. How the heck did she survived; a machine exploding with her inside, a giant door falling on her, a machine who can kill chickens and fry them. It's the robots ducks who finally got her? I don't believe it!
- Rocky was pushed aside and none of his comments made me laugh. The movie felt like a '' Girl power '' adventure and not one about family and surviving.
I had a nice time with the film, it's ok. I'll give it a 6|10.
In the first movie everything was girl power too Rocky bearely do anything at all
@@billykaplan9915 That movie would've been over pretty quickly if Rocky hadn't sabotaged the pie machine.
@@Calvinosaur yeah and ln dawn of the nugget he distracted Mrs Tweety enough for Molly to free Ginger and later safe his daughter my point stands the movie is mainly girl power
@@billykaplan9915 In breaking the pie machine Rocky directly saved everyone from death. This is a far cry from a short-lived diversion that buys a bit of time for a couple other characters to do a thing and is consistent with the sequel's inappropriate relegation of Rocky to comic relief. Moreover it's not the only thing Rocky did in Chicken Run. Fowler also did more in the first movie, providing the inspiration for building the plane and flying it himself. As for "girl power" consider too that most of the characters are female, as suits an egg farm.
@@Calvinosaur to be fair on dawn of the nugget there was no way for Rocky and Fowler to do as much as they did in their prequel but they did manage to do something important in a less impactful way but they did though maybe saving all the mind control chickens and the main cast counts for something
Reminds me of Frozen 2. Beautiful animation, mediocre story and writing
More like little mermaid 2 if you ask me.
@@LauraM96829 Little Mermaid 2 was decent, imo. One of the better Disney sequels.
@@chasehedges6775Inside Out 2
@@PussInBootsTheLastWishFan2003
Inside Out 2 looks pretty good
@@chasehedges6775yeah but I guess it will have an awful story because first inside out 2 is bad idea second theres one channel named called eletric dragon 505 anf he gave wish 8/10 so hell probably give inwide oit 10/10 when in reality it will be 5/10 which will annoy me more and third reason theres so reason to continue this story inside out 1 has great just keep it at that and the fact that im saying all this criticism about the idea was because eletmental sucked turning red was the worst film next to foodfight and where the dead go to die and those have been the 2 newest films from their studio i dont know but i think this movies gonna be as bad as elemental and turning red
I was really hoping they’d go into the chicken battery farms as a rescue mission to keep the real world setting from a chicken’s perspective, instead of a fantasy very fictional farm thing
Chicken Run was one of those films that didn't need a sequel. It was a good film by itself.
exactly
Aussie Chicken Run fan here who saw it at theatres and watches many times a year since. Even had a 2000 Chicken Run calendar. The Tweedys Farm seemed so dangerous. Chickens in a Yorkshire farm set up like POW camp (not holocaust allegory as people might sugest, its still a farm.) If they were caught Ginger spent the night in solitary confinement. Mr Tweedy and the dogs patrolled and kept catching them. Danger was around every corner. They were always shown sneaking. And if they stop laying off to chop to be dispatched by Mrs Tweedy herself. Stakes are high. Ginger went from strong and brave to weak, Rocky from sly and charismatic to no braincells. And Mrs Tweedy lost all her menace and the humor was lost. The joke was Mr Tweedy kept catching them doing human thing and Mrs Tweedy dismissing it. She end up with gravy and egg on her face. Had hopes for it based on Aardmans stellar reputation. This was disappointing.
Side note, the original chicks at then 🐤 were absent. Were they sent to chop? 🪓 Horror!
The chicks at the end of the original movie grew up to be adult chickens in the sequel.
@eyeseeu343 There only two roosters 🐓. Rocky and Fowler. They have to be Ginger and Rockys in which case why do they spend the movie acknowledging Molly as their only chick.
While it's true that the first one was a whole lot better, I was still able to appreciate this sequel. Brings back fond memories of my childhood at the very least.
The story wasn't that bad, it just could've been better.
Story was meh. They screwed up EVERY. DAMN. CHARACTER.
Rocky was turned into a complete moron.
Ginger became a liar or rather Ginger, the same chicken who openly told the rest of them that they were being fattened up to be slaughtered in the first movie, kept her past and truth about the outside world from her daughter.
Fowler became a stereotype in the worst and wasted way.
Babs, Bunty, and Mac barely had anything to do.
Even Mrs. TWEEDY became less of an ultimate evil to Chickens and felt more like a nerfed threat.
They didn't even MENTION Mr. Tweedy!
yeah, #notmychickenrun
And not to mention ginger character assassination, where she wanted to leave the frizzle and the other chickens from Fun land farm to death rather than saving them. It completely goes against her character from the original. And yes, I know she saved them later on, but it wasn’t because she wanted to, but it because Molly wanted to.
I haven't enjoyed an Aardman film since Pirates: An Adventure with Scientists. Chicken Run 2 is easily the worst.
Their stories have become so lazy. I wish they would focus on that before they greenlight new projects.
P.S Chicken Run was inspired by The Great Escape that was WW2 not 1
I fairly enjoyed it. I didn’t think it was as good as the first though. Funnily enough, Sam fell (the director of this movie and also the co director of flushed away) said that this movie would be really hard to make since the og was so perfect.
I enjoyed it too. It’s been 23 years since the original movie. I remember seeing it for the first time as a child, it was the best. I even got excited for this sequel.
Try not to ruin beloved franchises challenge (Impossible).
I liked it, you have good points and I definitely prefer the first one. Although this one was dark too.
spoiler: when me and my friends watched it, we were in utter disbelief when that mind controlled hen walked into the grinder and the sounds while Ginger was trying to comfort Molly as you could hear a saw styled murder in the background. Also Mrs. Tweedy WOULD NOT DIE!!!!! She kept surviving everything! Lady is more invincible than Superman.
Or Harry and Marv. Maybe she took the potion from Death Becomes Her.
I'm very sorry to hear that, but I do understand what didn't work. Personally Aardman let me down with Early Man with ironically a similar problem. It also became something it didn't need to be. It should have sticked with just the story of cavemen and not become a sports movie.
The main plot of the movie was the football/soccer thing tho - that was the main plot. It was just set in the Stone Age with cavemen and that by itself is not a story. I really enjoyed it personally, especially since it used many aspects of British football tropes and jokes around it, which I’m familiar with.
You know what really annoys me? The fact that Tweedy is still alive in this movie after we were shown clear as day at the ending of the last movie that she was CRUSHED UNDER A PIECE OF WALL!!
That was so satisfying to watch, and now it turns out that she’s still alive??!!
Fuck me sideways..😞🤦🏻♀️
Yeah, a factory farm would have worked. Difficult for the chickens to get in and out of while having that hint of realism that made the first film interesting.
I’d say that this film was good, but only if you watched the first Chicken Run to the characters. Overall, this sequel was more of a nostalgia film than anything else, but that’s my opinion.
I AGREE
I watched this one first and the first one second and I enjoyed both lol (even if I do prefer the other way around so I could be hype for Mrs. Tweedy’s reveal)
No offense to Ginger’s OG actor I too think she should have been in the movie, but I actually really enjoy ginger’s new voice as she sounds a lot older showing time has passed since the first film, just my opinion.
The climax was a bit drawn out for my liking. I was internally screaming gor Ginger to hit the damn button. There was no reason for her not to do it the moment she had the chance.
I didn’t hate the film but this movie is a joke compared to the first chicken run.
Exactly this. I can bear doing a rewatch of the sequel but all I will see is its a kid friendly dumbed down remake of the first movie.
TL;DR
This movie is okay and has a lot of interesting themes and ideas, I just wish wished they explored the themes presented to the same extend movies like Finding Nemo explore the theme of overprotective parenting and how it effects the characters and how they learn and change by the end of the movie, making them stronger and making for a compelling story.
Dawn of the Nugget is interesting because watching it, I find there are a lot of scenes which imply various and interesting themes and ideas.
Ginger worrying about Molly and trying to keep her safe by sheltering her is interesting because unlike other movies with this element, Dawn of the Nugget has a whole previous movie that justifies why Ginger would feel this way, after all she went though, not wanting Molly to experience the same is understandable in this context.
Also interesting to me is Molly, not in how the movie portrays her, but the themes and ideas surrounding her character, how she wants to leave the paradise Ginger and the others have built for the chickens because it is all she has ever known, and thus, desires freedom and has come to associate the island as something that contains/restrains her, in contrast to Ginger who sees the island as freedom from the farm and from danger.
There is an excellent contrast of perspectives and in an alternate script, I would have loved to these themes explored, and how perspective and upbringings can change how someone feels about something, and how hard it can be to see another’s perspective on something when you’ve only known it as something different to them.
Also interesting to me is Molly’s sheltered world view and how it is unwrapped by the end of the movie.
The part where Ginger is hypnotised and it’s Molly’s problem to deal with was interesting because Molly has to be responsible for Ginger who is oblivious to the danger around them, forcing Molly into her mother’s shoes.
The villain’s plan to make the chickens obliviously happy in their environment before being turned into nuggets was to me, a really cool concept regarding themes.
On their own, these are very interesting concepts and while I like that they are in the movie at all, I feel they are not explored to the extent needed to make them truly interesting.
A notable aspect of this is during the climax where Ms. Tweedy confronts Ginger, describing how she has made the chickens happy and content, as if making their lives happy before turning them into nuggets is morally righteous, something I question if Ginger (as a character) would agree with.
The problem I have with the speech / rant she gives is that it borderline comes out of nowhere and doesn’t have the context needed to make it effective.
I would have loved if at the beginning of the movie, it was established that Ginger was content with living the rest of her life in peace on the island, not wanting anything more, and seeing nothing wrong with that.
Not only would this conflict with Molly’s desire to explore beyond the island, but it could have been a means for Ginger to see the flaws in her outlook upon hearing Ms. Tweedy’s speech, perhaps it could cause Ginger to realise she no longer wanted freedom, but comfort, contrasting with her character from the first movie (and Molly) who wanted nothing but freedom - causing her to reflect.
Additionally, given that Ginger has nightmares about Ms Tweedy - I interpreted this as a subtle PTSD Ginger has after the intense experience of trying to escape the farm in the first movie.
I wonder if in an alternate script, after Ginger and Molly are reunited (after Molly discovers humans eat chickens and the scene with the chicken being turned into nuggets) Ginger talks about how despite leaving the farm, she still has nightmares that never went away and not wanting the same for Molly, sheltered her to avoid that, but in doing so, left her ill equipped and as a result, she has now experienced traumatic things herself.
The theme of sheltering your children and how that can result in them experiencing trauma themselves are present in the original movie, but I wished they explored this concept further, especially in its relation to the characters.
While this idea has been explored in other movies, I feel it works for Ginger’s character because she experienced such horrible things in the first movie, thus, we know what she went though, thus understand her desire to keep Molly from it, and the horridness she feels when it happens to Molly, anyway, arguably because of Ginger, who didn’t do what she should have done, educate Molly on the dangers of the world.
Smaller things like me wishing Ginger was hypnotised for the rest of the movie so Molly has to adapt along with the escape team being without their most valuable member and how that makes escaping with the rest of the chickens more challenging, I think would have been really interesting and have a lot of potential for Molly and the other’s character growth.
I don’t want to imply the movie would automatically have been better if stuff like this was implemented, but I mention this because I can see the themes and ideas being expressed, and I can see how well they relate and interact off the characters and their previous arks and flaws, the potential is there for an suburb story that challenges and greatly changes the characters, but they don’t explore it to the extent movies like Finding Nemo explore themes of overprotective parenting and how characters like Marlin and Nemo are effected by it and how they change by the end.
I don’t think the movie is bad by any means, but it leaves me wishing the ideas presented were explored to their full extent.
i agree, the first one was way more better because of how the first movie shows that slavery is bad, in dawn of the nugget its more of a mission impossible type thing
I liked Chicken Run 2 But I Definitely Understand Why People Disliked Or Hated It, Ginger Not Telling Molly About The Farm & The Tweedy’s Was So Stupid. If Ginger Had Just Told Molly Why They Shouldn’t Go On The Mainland, Then Molly Probably Wouldn’t Have Left. I Know The Plot Has To Happen But It’s So Lazy
I think the only good thing about Chicken Run II was Mrs. Tweedy’s new look.
Her farm nursery looked too bright to be believable, and I’m still mad they didn’t make it look like a beach or something more visually appealing like a movie theater.
The first movie was better
The movie was alright, but not as groundbreaking as the first movie. I just wish the ending was better.
I would have loved a civil war scenario with turkeys v.s chickens for 2
lol or ducks, it would make the robot duck guards in this film a nice foreshadowing.
It really baffles me how they thought replacing gingers voice actress was a good idea. Every time I heard ginger speak in this movie It just sounded so off. It is VERY distracting. Zachary Levi honestly wasn’t bad because I do think his voice fits the character however like you said I absolutely HATED what they reduced Rocky’s character to! Just a dumb idiot dad. This movie had gorgeous animation but the story absolutely sucked. Makes me realize just how amazing the OG film is and it should have been left alone.
There was a sequel?
Yes. Didn’t watch it tho.
Why are we not talking about the fact Nick and Fetcher voice actors have changed Timothy, Spall and Phil Daniels are not back in this movie, and I heard some interviews of them were the voices sound exactly the same and they could easily pulled of that same performance years after the original
This is what happens when you partner up with Netflix. You get a mediocre movie.
I thought Chicken Run 2 was ok, but it felt unnecessary.
I didn't hate it, but i thought there was some wasted potential
- Molly and frizzle should have spent more time together
- I said this under other videos, but i think mrs tweedy and Fry should have been the "evil but in love couple". Instead he was mr tweedy scientist version. Repetitive and disappointing (fry is adorable tho, and i love his design)
- Some characters felt like they were just...there
- The factory should have been a bit more creepy and less "supervillain lair"
- Mrs tweedy cheating on her husband. No.
Everything happened too fast. Maybe it would have been better if they did a mini series instead of a movie. It felt like an animated series special
- Mrs tweedy was a bit flanderized. She wasn't a supervillain, she was a real person who was going bankrupt. She is evil, but not that kind of evil. Her outfit is great tho
- The final battle was better in the first movie. In the first it was scary, in this one they should have stopped when melisha fell into the grinder. Melisha nugget is not scary and it's very cringe to watch
This movie do suck
I thought the sequel was alright but everything you said is completely true
Chicken Run 2 is a Unoriginal uninspired Cash Grab what felt like the first movie but actually physically bad
I hated how all the characters acted here Ginger was nowhere near as likeable or memorable & Molly's friend was really freaking obnoxious and the less said about Babs the better.
The movie's biggest sin was Bringing mrs Tweedy Back that was a really stupid decision in my opinion the fact that she didn't even die after falling into the machine is total BS overall I hope they don't make a third chicken run film.
Lastly I really hope that current aardman don't screw up the new Wallace and gromit short film. personally I think original ideas do sell but they have to be good and well thought out Chicken run 2 was a huge step back and was never necceersry to begin with I mean whats next Flushed Away 2?
I find it funny that Zachary Levi replaced two characters in 2023 bcs the original VA became controversial for good reasons. I just know for the other role, it was largely a decision by the voice directors to not sound like the original VA. Zachary is really good at impersonations, his range is impeccable. If he wanted to do the same voice as the original VA did for the character im talking about, he could easily have. He originally did. So this might be a similar case. But this is largely an assumption made by me, so take it with a grain of salt.
Still doesn’t mean I don’t miss the previous direction. 😭 But it took me awhile to warm up to Zachary’s take on the character I was talking about too and I now love it significantly more but meh, I feel like thats a different type of thing.
I kinda knew the movie was gonna be bad when they replaced the OG va for Ginger. I remember when it was first announced and she seemed SO devasted about it. Even rerecording old lines to prove she didn't sound too old and even sounded 98% the same. It definitely felt like them replacing her because she's "too old" felt like a move to ditch the old fans that grew up with the amazing cult classic and cater it to a new generation so Rocky and Ginger had to be recast to do that. It sucks, especially when almost everyone else was brought back. It's like having a family reunion but not inviting the person that started the event. I love Aardman as a studio and the wonderful people that made the animation happen, but this is one film of theirs I just can't support. That was not the right call to make.
Yeah there was recasting. Mel Gibson didn’t appear in the sequel as Rocky. I was even shocked that Melissa Tweedy was still alive especially after her now ex husband tipped the door on her. He did it as payback since she abused him and treated him like a Buffoon, that was something he should’ve done a long time ago, stand up to her. That crazy professor was even stupid enough to marry her.
I think dr fry likes the fact she is evil. He is not scared of her like mr tweedy was
This film really is harmless and unnecessary.
#notmyginger #notmyrocky #notmynickandfetcher ( nick and fetcher were handled well I just don’t like the new voice actors and the fact that aardman gave them the emotion of sadness
it’s just really boring and unlikable and tries too hard to be entertaining
As is often the case with badly made sequels.
Honestly, I have to agree with you here. Despite being a huge Aardman and Chicken Run fan, I thought this film was unnecessary and bad. I don’t hate it as the animation is still great and there are some creative ideas but I feel like they ruined a lot of parts of the first film for me such as pulling a Palpatine with Mrs Tweedy, just blatantly copying scenes from the first, wasted several characters and especially with how they butchered Ginger and Rocky. Incredibly hot take incoming, but I personally feel they were butchered as bad as all the hardcore Ralph Breaks the Internet haters say the characters in that film were.
I didn't really like this movie but i throught the jokes were funny
The not needed sequel we want to forget as quick as possible in honor of the first movie
Remember in the first Chicken run, when they went to all that effort to build their flying machine to escape the farm? Well, in this one they just knock up a flying cloud machine off screen in 2 minutes
You’re not alone mate, I hated it JUST as much as you did, if not more so. One thing I appreciated about the original as I was growing up was Giner’s entire personality. She carried immense compassion for everyone she cared about but she was also a strong & smart woman. I had aspired becoming something like her because I dealt with plenty of bullies as a kid & wanted to be more brave/kind into my adulthood. Not to mention I always through Rocky was written wonderfully for his part. And the genuine chemistry between the two was my favorite aspect of the film, I hoped to find love like theirs, as in something you don’t expect but once it’s there things are bliss. And the side characters were all SOOO funny to me. Fowler with his old fashioned grumpiness, Babs with her bubbling positivity, Bunty being just a total brute, Mac with her unique brains/accent, and the mice totally standing out (because they weren’t chickens nor humans) plus bringing the shenanigans. All of that mixed together made such a delicious viewing experience for me. And Tweedy was such a biiiiitch I always laughed when she got squashed. My parents for a time worried that I might’ve enjoyed violence too much cuz of that lol. HOWEVER this film was totally BLAND and just threw all of the beauty of the characters in the trash! It’s like they took the interesting “quirks” of everyone and just erased ALL other aspects of their personalities, if not changing their personalities all together. As you mentioned I HATE this version of Ginger and Rocky. And I need to address now, that the IDEA of centering the sequel around their kid sounded like an interesting CONCEPT. But the nuggets in the bucket were completely stale for me.
nah the quality dropped after pirates
That’s why we’re getting a third movie due to where we left off at the ending.
This made early man look better
Wait, is john Cleese really dead?
John Cleese is still alive he wasn’t the original voice actor for Fowler , the original voice, actor was, Benjamin whitrow he died in 2017
@@azariahpage7351 oh, thanks clearing it up
Aardman's reputation was already destroyed by replacing Julia Sawalha.
Firstly Chicken Run 2 was actually pretty decent
Secondly wdym first bad Aardman movie? Are we pretending Early Man doesn’t exist?
I grew up watching the original movie so many times as a kid, loved it so much! So when it was announced that Aardman was working on a sequel to it, I was cautiously optimistic to say the least. Now that I’ve finally seen it, I don’t think it’s as great as the first movie 🫤 It felt like just simple content for Netflix to have to entertain kids, but I feel like they’re better off watching the original. Don’t get me wrong though: the animation is great (as always with Aardman) 👍🏻 The story and setting on the other hand are the weakest aspects of it 😪
I can't believe we waited 23 years for this
It was very forgettable and bland
The main villain of this movie has the same plot armor of John wick & Dubois from Madagascar 3
I completely agree. The film was terrible. I can't believe people who saw the original thought it was okay. I got 15 minutes in before I decided to switch it off. Thanks for posting an honest (and accurate) review instead of pandering to the hype.
A M E N! It was such a disappointment. You nailed it
Rant: Rocky was dumb and his voice doesn't sound like Mel Gibson.
I wanted to see Rocky and Ginger be good parents but it was more like Ginger hiding things from Molly and Rocky being goofy and ignorant of things.
Personally for me I found it to a little boring.
I loved this movie, even if the message has been done soooo many times before. Still, it does hold the valuable message of shielding your child from the world and from the TRUTH will make them ignorant. Teaching them about the world will help them understand the dangers better.
Also about the setting, I saw it as commentary of things changing and farms getting bigger with more capacity. With today's regulations small farms just aren't profitable the way they used to when Chicken Run 1 was released.
Ginger being overprotective over Molly is understandable after all the trauma she was put through during her years at the farm. Being a parent her only objective is to keep her daughter safe within the safe haven they found for themselves after escaping. I believe she trusted Molly to love it unconditionally because she loved it so without realizing Molly had no comparison. She had never experienced misery so she didn't understand why their home was better than any other place.
I don’t hate Chicken Run 2, but I do admit, this is not an Aardman film. It doesn’t even look like stop motion, and the story ISNT what Aardnam usually do. Shaun The Sheep Movie, sheep’s in the big city. Wallace and Gromit, a rabbit goes berserk on Halloween. All these are simple plots, and this is the exact opposite. It’s too over the top and bonkers. The acting also sucked. Fowler’s actor is dead so that makes sense, but his new voice actor wasn’t very good. Rocky’s and Ginger’s was also awful and didn’t need any recasting. Speaking of Ginger, this doesn’t feel like her. From a proud leader, to an overprotective mother. Yikes! Molly isn’t that interesting ether. However, this film isn’t entirely horrible. I liked the animation (obviously) and the side characters are actually pretty funny and Ms Tweedy was a likeable villain. But her new husband was unnecessary. Why do we need a new one when the old one was so much better and charming? Overall, I didn’t hate this, but it’s unnecessary and NOT like Aardman’s other films.
Chicken Run: 9/10
Chicken Run 2: 4.5/10
I like some parts of it but i rather re watch the original (With is my favourite stop motion movie btw) Than ever watches this sequel again.
Or at least not for a decade.
For me it was the whole plot and Molly from the very beginning as an egg was a bad kid the minute she was about to hatch and started running i knew it was going to be one of those movies. The whole situation would have been avoided Ginger let her dad tell her what they had gone through.
I feel like chicken run didnt really need a sequel. I wish they at least kept Gingers voice because she sounded the exact same. But at least this movie wasnt horrible and rushed and way too boring. But the original chicken run will always be my favourite ❤ and i wish they kept Gingers funny snarky personality. So i agree and also not really agree on some parts ❤
I strongly disagree early man was a huge disappointment than chicken run 2 because although unnecessary it was yet it wasn’t as lazy like most sequels can be.
What! What!?!
even though I don't think it's particularly aesthetically pleasing, I think when it comes to the style of the sets such as the over-the-top super villian lair it was done as a sort of exageration of what modern day evil looks like, which is bright colours & lies we get fed in the genre of "this new thing will bring you happinesss!" & getting brainwashed for more efficient profit -- as opposed to that old style war camp sort of evil you pointed out from the original film, which, just like real history was not efficient.
So I think we should give Aardman a bit of credit for branching out and not just making a replica of the first film but then most other aspects just flopped, even without comparing them to the original. Except the art. The art is obviously wonderful.
Although I do NOT respect aardman for casting a different actor for Ginger because they were 'too old' what kind of bs is that she doesn't have to do f*****g stunts wtf...
Funnily enough, I agree with every one of your points and thought the same things myself while watching but I didn't hate the film. I just thought it was just an average kid's film by modern day standards... and that's about it. It wasn't particularly offensive but it was nowhere near as great as the original either.
I watched it a day after it came out, I thought it was alright.
It was a little... eh for me. I really don't like how Frizzle was promoted as a major character, and not to far in she gets brainwashed
Chicken run was always meant as a one and done when they made it and this one shows they didnt know where they wanted to take it
I thought it was fine, though the comedy wasn’t funny and the rooster dude felt out of character and lost his cleverness and suaveness.
Worst Aardman film? You clearly haven't seen Early Man.
I enjoyed Early Man but I feel Shaun the sheep farmageddon is the worst
the color of the movie so vivid
I actually like this film.
The story is wacky with the new chicken processing farm and science, funny jokes, and nice characters.
At least I enjoyed it more than The Incredibles 2.
Well, I liked it.
I noticed the music in the original movie from 2000 sounds like a music from real composers from a real movie but the music in Chicken Run Dawn of the nugget sucks because the composers from the first movie are the same ones from Kung Fu Panda and How to train your dragon. I did like the sequel pretty good
I liked this movie it would be better if it was made by Dreamworks.
I don't agree. Dreamworks try too hard to be 'different'. It would've been worse if Dreamworks made it. That's my take
I agree with your points the recasting was odd, it was ok but nothing like the original movie.
Kinda figured it would be a soulless rehash for normies with no taste buds
Honestly this movie reminds me of the HTTYD specials that had Hiccups kids in them. How in all the years of raising them did Hiccup not tell his kids how great dragons are so little so that they started hating them and wanting to kill one??? It's the same problem with this movie. How did Ginger not think it'd be smart to tell her kid about what happened and what they had to go through to live in peace and paradise??? It makes no sense and makes our smart and brave characters look so stupid just to make way for the new generation.
What are you talking about? It was a national treasure and an enjoyable experience for me.
Saw this with my family on Xmas day. Not as fresh as the original. But it was pretty enjoyable and entertaining.
The recasting is obviously infuriating given Aardman's past experience with someone wanting to recast an Og Va for a more popular one.
Is it just me or does he sound like Phantom Strider? I’m not saying it is him, but he sounds similar.
I thought it was good and that all that really matters to me
So I guess your forgot early man was a thing, but ok. Won't deny this movie is mediocre too
Great review! "We have Chicken Run at home vibes," is a great way to describe the whole movie, not just the voices. They just don't write 'em like they used to. Everything is dumbed way down for kids these days. Shame.
For me the original is a childhood classic that I love and cherish to this day and when it comes to the sequel I didn’t hate it personally, but I did think it was pretty unnecessary and didn’t live up to the original not bad or terrible just kind of ok like I had a good time watching but it’s not a movie that I would go out of my way to watch again any time soon overall I’d give it a 6/10 it was alright the og on the other hand is a 9/10
The plot is the same and the villain is the same, you don't repeat the same thing in a different setting and think it'll do well.
I love this style of animation however I to did not like this movie
I thought it was pretty mediocre. Nowhere near the original, but still ok.
Harsh. It’s lesser than the first one yeah but it’s not a bad movie at all by any means. My BIGGEST complaint is that a lot of characters were flanderized. Like I don’t rocky being that dumb in the og. And even tho fowler is old he wasn’t that crazy.
The first film is more about escaping a P.O.W camp from World War 2 rather than World War 1 also I think flushed away is the only bad Aardman film