I will say that from personal experience, a Saab 9-5 (og) is an extremely safe car. A long time ago, I was involved in a car accident (I was not at fault) with a truck and a VW Golf. The truck was totalled and the emergency services had to cut the Golf driver out of his totalled car. Myself, my wife and my son got out of our Saab 9-5 Aero without a bruise. The police and fire crew commented upon how safe a Saab was. My car was back on the road 6 weeks later once it was repaired.
Same here head on collision in my Saab 900 in 1997. Walked away from it replaced w/ another white 900 and also had a new 9-3. After 20yrs waiting for my new to me 9-5 Sportkombi to arrive… excitement !
I've been so stuck on the 9-3 convertible, thank you for this. I've been following you since the end of last year, and you're the best out there to follow and talk to about this fantastic cars!
I just bought a 2002 Saab 9-5 and you are spot on it's a car I have always overlooked because the exterior styling never really stood out and I always considered them a dentist's car. Now that I own one I see what I was missing out on. I bought mine from an enthusiast who builds these and goes through them. And I must add it is a very practical car. Rides great, tight suspension, great handling, good power, huge trunk, and very comfortable seats. Mine has had the aero seats swapped in and a few other mods done by a previous owner. I love my Saab. 280k miles and still drives like new but has had much of the car replaced or rebuilt.
@I can see clearly Now 86k miles is ridiculously low for this car. We would say that the engine is just run in here in Sweden. Be aware if the engine service is irregular, though, and good luck with your little gem.
I have driven my free 2002 saab 95 for à year now. Runs great . Had to replace timing chain and ignition module when I first got the car and all vacuum hoses .
Never getting rid of my 03 Aero, want to convert it to ethanol and stage 1 or 2 for time attack. Fun Fact: 2003 Saab 9-5: First production car with Vented seats.
Kyle...great video. You are spot-on! Since new, my 2008 9-5 has cost me $3,700 in parts, labor and fluids. Except for the throttle body, every penny spent was on wear and preventative maintenance. I replaced my first throttle body at 79,000 miles with a new Hella, and just had to replace it again at 112,000. Pissed me off. This time I bought a used one from Goldwing. Also, on the 05-09 9-5's, the Mitsubishi TD04 turbocharger is a beast, and will regularly go 200,000+ miles. My 2008 9-5 has never left me stranded. I do wish that I didn't have to fill it with premium, and in-town stop & go mileage is awful...about 10 mpg. But I do get 30 mpg on the highway. When I finally sell mine, the buyer will get a fantastic vehicle with many happy miles of motoring.
I love my SAAB 9-5 Aero form 2003, i just love driving it, sadly i live in Sweden and we salt our roads heavily, and sadly the old SAABs hate it and rost, like my SAAB i need to fix the rost and it will cost me 15 000 Swedish kronor or 1500€ for a professional to fix it, with is kinda expensive... but i will save up to i and fix it. the other things i have fixed so far are, new Xenon lights, new xenon level controller, new gas pump, new 3 inch exhaust pipe (former 2 inch pipe and very baldy repaird) and a new handle for the trunk. then another thing i need to fix is the engine and transmission bushings. then i think the car will be fully fixed =D So if you don't mind speeding some money now and then, you will have a very nice car to drive or maybe a car to have some fun in! my SAAB got the 2.3T engine with stage 1 trim witch gives it around 270 horse power, i have gotten her to 220 km/h so far, which was extremely fun for me to do! So boys and girls if you wand a cheep and fun car to drive get a SAAB, you will almost never regret having one in you life.
I have a 9-5 Aero from 2004 nothing has broken on it since day one, and then i have a TTID Saab 9-3 from 08, A 9-3 Aero 2.8T from 08 & Also a 9-5 Linear from 06
I'm on my third Saab (900, then 9-5 which got an oil leak into the turbo and now a 9-3) drove to Italy and back twice from Manchester in the UK and I love it. Was so sad to see them stop production
Holding on to my 2002 9-5 and my 1988 900 turbo. I fix things as they break but they're structurally indestructible! Great for not rusting, even in Ontario, Canada!
I’ve had an ‘01 5-speed 9-5 Aero wagon as a primary workhorse for almost seven years. I find the key to reliability is to have a second highly-depreciated Saab (a ‘96 9000 Aero, for example) sitting next to it as a backup just in case.
I have had a 2.3t BioPower (2006) for 10 years now as a daily driver. Never had any major issues, and it always starts and runs flawlessly. Definitely never going to get rid of it.
the 2.3t engines are definitely more reliable than the GM engines were, I have an 02 9-5 aero with 240k miles and haven't had any major issues with it either, it's never broken down and the only stuff that's been relaced is either for fun like the boost controller, or just standard like the subframe bushings which were getting a little rough after being driven relatively hard for 230k miles
2004 9-5 2.3t automatic SportLinear owner here. Best car I've ever owned. The cheap Stage 1 tune turned it from a rather docile and staid family car into a fun wolf-in-sheeps-clothing solid and powerful touring car. Night and day difference. Everything about this car is grand!
I am totally agree with you. I bought mine last week. There are a lot things I need to fixed because of the knocking in the engine. If you have any suggestions let me know. I bought a lot of parts waterpomp engine gaskets etc etc... Hope to hear from you. Netherlands Saab 2.3 Aero.
That’s one reason I bought mine the grocery thing! I worry about so much stuff when I take my ‘19 Golf R to the store (or my work, got door dinged there too) and it’s nice to have the other car. That said, it’s not just a mule, it’s a nice comfy quick-ish smooth cruiser that holds a unique place in car history
The Golf R is just a golf. I don't know why Golf R and GTI get glorified as garage queens. Makes me cringe when someone stores a golf R in the garage over winter. They literally cost the same as Honda CRV. Drive it, take precautions but enjoy it like the 30-40 grand car it is.
@@22chachalaca I don’t know anything about Honda CRV’s or how expensive you think they are but my Golf R is not “just” anything. That’s my dream car and yeah I drive the crap out of it. All that much more reason why I need a beater. I intend to keep my Golf forever and want it to last a long time. And it was expensive to me for sure.
I agree with most of what you say except when you say they are a little bit unreliable,I have had 4 Saabs and have had very few problems ,had to replace one turbo that's all that ever failed
@@justin_san_souci I understand it's expensive to you, but at the end of the day it's a $40,000 car. I love them too but it's something to put the miles on and use daily. It's a very tame daily, unless you put your foot into it it doesn't feel much different than a base TSI, which is a good or bad thing however you look at it..
I have a 170k saab 93 2004 ot has a mapped 1.9tid 180bhp engine, and it's absolutely amazing, combined mpg is over 50. Such a smooth engine and sooooo comfy.
Kyle!!! I love your videos man. Really have helped me a lot!!! I have a 2005 Saab 9-5 Arc 2.3t. With 103k miles. Got it for a steal with one owner! Long story short. Ive had it for a year now. I have some of the common issues you have demonstrated. My car had a/c. One day the resistor or the fan stopped. I have the vibrations of the mounts. Changing them once they arrive. Im working on it because I agree. I love the car, its amazing. My work car but i love it. Anyway, as of the past month. My saab has turned off on me like 5 or 6 times. It only happenes when im idling or driving real slow (died twice reversing) today died 3 times while waiting at a drive thru. I get no check engine lights and it turns on right away
Thanks Saab friend...I Have saved and currently restoring a 9-5 vector with a colour code 288 graphtie green pearl...My youngest daughters 9-5 sedan is under rerstoring ...has a lot of rust.....man i love your channel..Greetings Former Mechanic in 26 years old..I worked on Chevrolet and Saab in 7 years...Everybody laughed at me...A did not like the Opel at the dealership..they were too bad assambled...I love Chevrolet and my Saabs are many...Thanks again for taking your time too making your great videos....I think honest work is the best way ....The Saab cars is different oh yes...but taking my word for it...Iove the history of American cars....I think the US has a uniqe way of been honest...i love that...Greetings former mechanic and UN soldier in peace at heart...Thanks for sharing your videos ..Greetings Saab friend in Norway...Europe..The Saab cars were expensive yes...but when you looked upon safety...yep...no chines car from me ever...sorry ..but the safety is not in my opinion good enough....Stay safe and have a good summer...
Just bought a 2002 9 5 Aero SpoertEstate. Had Euro cars all my life but had avoided SAABs for the exact reasons you pointed out...people tell you they're unreliable, etc...well, even if they are unreliable, those seats make up for it. It's a beautifully built car and just so much better than any German car I've had. Such a shame GM killed them. They also killed our Holdens down here in Oz. But, back on topic...SAAB seats! OMG, they understand a seat.
I will also add that the Saab B235R engine is almost bullet proof if looked after properly, and will do 250,000 miles easily. I can see why you love your Saab and I agree with you that they are brilliant cars and the Aero 9-5 is surprisingly quick when accelerating between 40 -70 mph. Jeremy Clarkson of Top Gear fame once claimed that it was quicker than a Porsche 911 when accelerating between those speeds. I know I have embarrassed a few BMWs when I had my 9-5 Aero!🤣
I owned a 9-5 Aero a few years ago. Got rid of it with 165,000 miles on the clock as was doing lots of miles and needed a diesel, fuel prices are higher in the UK. Great car never used a drop of oil, had been remapped and still pulled unbelievably well. Very comfortable and no rust at all. Had a few electrical gremlins but nothing mechanical and used as a daily driver. Recently got a Turbo X but 9-3 just aren’t as well built as the 9-5 and don’t feel as solid. Owned a 900, 9000 as well all superb cars.
I've owned my 93 for a year and have swapped out all the steering components, new inlet pipe and air intake, about to start on suspension and then a tune. Car drives great but just need a little more ummppphhh when I hit the gas. Luckily I have had only one problem since buying the car everything else I've replaced was just for want not need
Why buy an OG 9-5? Unique, a lot of “bang for the buck”, and relatively simple to work on. Also still has a Saab designed engine. There are far more 9-3s on the road than 9-5s, so if you want to stand out, get the 9-5. Is it going to be as reliable as a Toyota? Probably not, but I can promise you that it will be much more fun to drive. And if you don’t want the car for performance, that’s ok. Enjoy the high mpg, the heated seats, sunroof, and a lot of other features that 9-5s have. Most of the time, I drive like a grandpa and can get 26 mpg in town. That said, if you don’t want to work on your car, you may want to look elsewhere. Some shops will try to scam you out of $$$ because “iT’s a EuRoPeAn CaR!”, and people will tell you that parts are no longer made. That is BS. Do people stop driving Pontiacs, Oldsmobiles, or Saturns because the manufacturers are no longer around? Of course not. Manufacturers do not make parts, they assemble. And parts availability for GM era Saabs is pretty good in the US. If you’re completely new to working on cars, try to find someone who is familiar with Saabs, or better yet, a Saab mechanic who can help you out. And definitely join the Facebook groups.
2005 Saab 9 5 2.3t ARC. First time I ever bought a car with a turbo. It's a cool car, but mine needs some work. Not sure if it's going to be worth it for me to pay someone to do it for me since it will probably be over 2k worth of work. It is a really smooth ride on the parkway though. You don't even realise how fast you are going. I think I bought it at like 150k and now it has 178k. Did the brakes and put a new muffler in. Replaced the water valve and water pump. The mechanic is saying he can't find the parts, but i guess they only look through a few of their own distributers. I guess you can still find the parts online... I'll have to see if I order the parts online, maybe they'll be able to put them in
Really nice looking Saab Kyle grettings from Sweden, got one myself that I owned since 2013 a 2004 Saab 9-5 Aero Espresso Black Metallic station wagon, we got 4 Saabs my wife got 2 a TTID 2008 Saab 9-3 2008 and a 2006 Saab 9-5 Station wagon, I got that Aero 2004 station wagon and recently bought a Saab 9-3 2008 Aero V6 255HP snow silver I think the color is named and low milage on that Aero 9-3 :)
My honest review is, they brake alot inside out, Lot of maintenance, But very smooth ride, lush looks, canny fast. I will miss my saab but without the tech2 and full mechanical knowledge its not a reliable car i had one of the lowest mileage in the uk bought years ago with 40,000. TRUTH IS without Kyle pancis and the other couple of wellknown youtubers they are the nain ones keeping saab going toat respect thank you for being there when i needed help most kyle. Like i said i will always be a subscriber. And like yur vids. Peace out. P.s my problems were mainly electrical wires and a earth bug,
Bought my '04 Saab 9-5 Estate 2.3t (185hp) for 500 euro's, because the turbo was busted. Replaced the turbo and exhaust. And a year later the engine (turns out the previous owner never changed the oil, and the balance shaft bearings took a hit because of it. Engine still runs fine, just the oil light came on when the oil was warm. 😅 ) Was cheaper to get another engine, 650 euro's for a good one.) The original engine is still in storage, going to be rebuild eventually.
Hey Kyle! Just found your awesome channel through the Switching Lanes video with a rebuilt 9-5. There is a 2008 9-5 Griffin near me with 105K and clean history. Place wants $5500. What do you think? Really miss my OLD 900Turbo from 20 years ago. Any tips on things to look for? Thanks man!
I'll respectfully disagree. I own a 2011 95 and I love it. I got lucky and inherited it relatively inexpensively from a dear friend. I've spent a few dollars bringing it up to snuff but I don't regret it one bit. It will probably get a new timing chain during the winter , but it will insure a long life of enjoyment! It never ceases to amaze me how up to date it is for a 10+ year old car. The only thing I miss is the backup camera, but maybe I'll get it done this spring.
Yes I agree, my 04 Saab 9-5 aero is awesome for all around efficient and is fun to drive. It’s actually identical to your Saab Kyle. However I need to sell it because I have a company car now. So if anyone here is interested it’s a available, low mileage and in family since new, best car I’ve ever owned and the video is spot on about this car.
Had a 2004 9-5 Aero and no issues aside from one electrical which was an easy fix and it got me to 170k miles no problems other than that one. Then gave it to my mother and she totaled it 3 days later. Then got her a Nissan Rogue and she totaled that in 2 weeks, then a brand new Nissan Murano and she totaled that. So that was the last time i got her a car. But when she crashed my Saab that i bought when new i was so disappointed lol. Had every option even the ventilated front seats which was great
Well, i will point out one thing, Saab 9-5, 00-03 has a faulty oil-pickup, due to the exhaust being to close to the oilpan = the oil isnt picked up, cuz of the heat and kinda fumes away = low oil pressure = dead engine. If you drive like grandma, you'll be fine. If you like to speed a little, you are doomed :) Other then that, you are on point.
I have a 2005 9-3 convertible which was in the garage the other day and they gave me a 2000 9-5 as a courtesy car with 130,000 on it for a couple of days. The first thing I noticed is the car had more torque than my 9-3 but wow it used a lot of fuel. I got only mid 20's miles per gallon driving it moderately. They don't depreciate yeah but fuel economy is harsh if you do a lot of miles that will soon add up. My Skoda 1.6 diesel does a real world 65 MPG so I found the 9-5 painful fuel economy wise. This is more important in the UK as fuel costs a lot more over here.
I’m on 160k miles on mine.Is their any preventative maintenance I need to do? I’ve done PCV system, change oil every 5k etc.Do I need to do the timing chain? Thanks Luke,England
I wish I could drive mine right now, it wont start and just cranks. I replaced cps and installed a new dic and plugs.I hear the fuel pump ,but I don't think its getting spark :(
Agree with most of what you said with some caveats. While its very comfortable and the cabin ambience is nice I wouldn't call it spacious. Actually for the outside size of a car its rather cramped inside. I'm 190cm and my head touches the ceiling. Same goes for the rear space - comfortable seats but not much headroom or kneeroom. Most parts as you say are easily available, but some are not - like the ABS module for 2004 cars which is very hard to find for a reasonable price and which is most often unrepairable if it goes wrong (and it does go wrong). So the Christmas lights are on for more than a year on mine. And even if you manage to iron out most glitches, the resistance to corrosion is rather weak which becomes very apparent in colder climates so it steadily rots away. What I most dislike about it is the bouncy and crude suspension. All things considered, I still love driving my 9-5. Over 200.000 miles, stars all the time and is as fast as it ever was despite most of the warning lights on :) Thanks for your videos!
Call pick-n-pulls ask them to pull one. I had an 04 aero module in my hand 2 yrs ago. Left it under the hood when i found an 03 linear instead. $25 I should have bought it and resold it.
I have owned my 2004 9-5 Estate/Wagon since 2008. While she still runs great she would benefit from an owner who can either do the typical work a car of her age and 165,000 miles requires. Im 72 and only drive ~ 5000 miles a year. Silver Grey with grey interior, leather, heated seats, sunroof, power windows/locks,automatic, etc. You can see picture in Saab Central (UN 5Xsaabowner). Make a reasonable offer and she can be yours
Is it the rod or just bushings....bushings costs 10€ and if you manage to break 20mm thick iron rod its 80€ theres one big firm in britain which is specialized on saab parts....just use Google or order it from sweden.there are couple of firms in sweden which has almost every part you might need.maptuning, speedparts sweden etc etc...
So I always wanted a SAAB. I really liked the Dame 9-5 from your rebuild video, and I DM'd you about a rebuilt one I found thinking it was the one from you video. Long story short, if you recall, it wasn't yours, and I grabbed an 07 Sportcombi locally for cheap and have been fixing the little bits needed. Well, now that I'm fully invested in the SAAB world, I'm seeing the "Dame's" starting to go up in price. I'm seeing 100k models going for $8 to $15k for them! Don't know if I got lucky at the right time, but the Dame's seem to be going up in value already. Even though they are the unloved face-lift. Either way, keep up the good work. If you want, I'm on Insta at the_sunday_swede.
In 5 years after 100k miles of my own driving I think I spent 8-10k pounds on maintenance and repairs, just replaced the gearbox this weekend and upgraded bilstein suspension b8, still love my 95 aero from 2004 and not many cars can touch it
Hey kyle I Have 1999 Saab 9-5 With Almost The Same Mileage As You Any Idea Where I Can Find A Flywheel Cover Plate From The Transmission I Have 4 Speed Automatic I Can't Find Them Online Any Ideas The One I Have Is Little Bent & I Need Do The Oil Pan Gasket
Have a Saab 2004 Aero wagon. Went to check transmission fluid and it came gushing out. Otherwise it's been a great car. What might be the problem. There are no affordable Saab repair shops near me and no way would I trust one of those national chain transmission repair shops.
Hey, guy from Sweden here. Got 2 saab 95 aeros 2004, one which is sedan and one which is combi. Had the combi for 4 years now, and the sedan i got like a month ago. Gonna keep them both, great cars. You Can modify alot on These cars, the sedan i got is modified alot so its got better handling looks and performance overall, but still got the saab feeling if you know what i mean. The combi is pretty much stock except for a stage 1 and some other minor things, and it shall remain so :) How can you live in swe without owning and driving these things, they are super affordable, and if you work on them yourself you can save lots of money, that and the fact that they generally are cheap to get makes them super economical to own. Performance for cheap guys, especially the aero models, goes for the 93 too of course
I have a 2005 sedan aero(stage 1)love it, lately I have been thinking about getting a 2004-2005 Aero Wagon. Can you explain what difference you feel from a driving perspective between a sedan and a wagon if any? I'm curious. The wagon has been growing on me 😂
@@nab5018 i think none except that the wagon is a little heavier (like 70-100 kg?). The sedan is probably just a little better because of that. However my sedan got different shocks and other mods and my wagon is stock so its not comparable because of that. Wagon is superior due to more storage, thats all, from a Driving perspective very similar just that the sedan is lighter which is nice.
@@achmed51 thank you very much for taking the time to answer! My plan is to upgrade my suspension which is feeling a bit tired with Bilsteins and Eibach springs and progressively take it to a healthy 320-350 hp with upgraded turbo and internals nothing too crazy but make it into kind of an Aero R or Hirsch+😂. And using better silicones hoses , powerflex bushing... Will see later for an Wagon lol
@@nab5018 i got bilstein h8 all round and maptun springs on the sedan, makes a big difference from stock. The car becomes more responsive in its steering and more stiff. Feels more sporty. Not the most comfy, the stock ones are softer which perhaps is preferred by people in general. But i like it. Great idea that with the engine! I have stage 3 ethanol in mine, it does not include the upgraded Turbo, its supposed to be 315 hk and 450 nm on ethanol, 290 hk 440 nm om petrol. I have the powerflex bushings aswell. Who will make the software for your tune? I have maptune.
@@achmed51 that sounds like a great set up, the kind I am looking for. I am already very happy with the car in general. It's way beyond what I expected. As time passed I love it more and more. Awesome cars! Already very quick in stage one so I can't imagine yours lol or mine very soon
I was interested until 6:40. I get that Saabs are safe but if you’re going to get a beater car then why is this a better choice than a used Toyota or Honda? Those two brands have plenty of cheap parts and proven reliability to keep the cost of ownership low. However, owning a 9-5 station wagon would be cool.
I would say there are 3 reasons. Comfortable seats. Powerful engine and initial if not total costs. But there are twice as many ie. 6 reasons to own a Saab 9-3 2.0 sportcombi 2010 or 2011 aero. Seats. All wheel drive. Compact size to zip through traffic on busy streets, cheaper maintenance if any for novices (more reliable and newer), more in the spirit of the 900, the coolest Saab ever made, and a beautiful interior and dash. Am I wrong here? 2 to 1 people in these surveys prefer the 9-3 to the 9-5 so I don't think so. Even if it is the V6 9-3. But honestly, I don't like V-6 engines. (V5 is favorite). They're too heavy (affecting safety on wet roads and handling), too fast (yes, this is possible), and I don't want a 3900 pound car. If you disagree, please let me know. I am open to having my mind changed if you can give me 3 more reasons.
I dislike 95 for its weight too. They are too heavy and it takes them first 2 gears to open up. I like 95ng design inside and out most but then it is boring behind the wheel and I got scared of expensive spare body parts in case of accidents. I guess Saab is over in my mind for good. A brain says to pair up with different car makes.
@@KylePancis Say Kyle, is there a way to make the oil dipstick easier to see? I mean the plastic at the end is black and so is the oil...tough on my old eyes lol. i was considering a high temp white paint but am afraid of it lifting and clogging the oil sump. any thoughts?, nice content BTW, :)
Ive test driven 9-5 1.9tid automatic, 110kw (2008) today and Im gutted. The car was heavy, no fun factor, leather seats just average, door handles squeezing, interior outdated in general. I dont get all that praise. It is just an average big car. Im after a sharper, stiffer feel. The body design outdated in person too (I dont get those ugly tail lights). The 95ng is miles better although slow too but at least much better interior quality and body looks sleek. I will give Saab one more chance with 93ng but I already presume that it will be just another average vehicle. My dreams are getting realistic about Saab. There must be some kind of false flag, false praise there.
I will say that from personal experience, a Saab 9-5 (og) is an extremely safe car. A long time ago, I was involved in a car accident (I was not at fault) with a truck and a VW Golf. The truck was totalled and the emergency services had to cut the Golf driver out of his totalled car. Myself, my wife and my son got out of our Saab 9-5 Aero without a bruise. The police and fire crew commented upon how safe a Saab was. My car was back on the road 6 weeks later once it was repaired.
Same here head on collision in my Saab 900 in 1997. Walked away from it replaced w/ another white 900 and also had a new 9-3. After 20yrs waiting for my new to me 9-5 Sportkombi to arrive… excitement !
Greetings from the Ural (Russia) - Saab owner !
Amazing! Greetings!
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What you said is true; a lot of people beleive that it's hard to get SAAB parts and it's on the contrary really easy
9-3 owner here. Future 9-5 owner too ;)
Me too. Saab 9-3 Coupé OG
I've been so stuck on the 9-3 convertible, thank you for this. I've been following you since the end of last year, and you're the best out there to follow and talk to about this fantastic cars!
I just bought a 2002 Saab 9-5 and you are spot on it's a car I have always overlooked because the exterior styling never really stood out and I always considered them a dentist's car. Now that I own one I see what I was missing out on. I bought mine from an enthusiast who builds these and goes through them. And I must add it is a very practical car. Rides great, tight suspension, great handling, good power, huge trunk, and very comfortable seats. Mine has had the aero seats swapped in and a few other mods done by a previous owner. I love my Saab. 280k miles and still drives like new but has had much of the car replaced or rebuilt.
I am a 9-5 driver in need of a dentist.
Best car ever made. I've had at least 5 9-5s, 8 Saabs and back on my second 9-5 Griffin (this one from 1998) which is my forever car
Great video! Have owned seven SAABS in my life.
Currently 2009/ 9-5 SportCombi.
Love my ride!
Literally picking up my new to me 9-5 tomorrow!
@I can see clearly Now Check it out , drive it and see for yourself , Griffin's are damn rare from where i am , i'm in love on my 9-3!
@I can see clearly Now Saabs are fun when you floor it , most people don't know the power and the potential of one , awesome sleepers.
@I can see clearly Now 86k miles is ridiculously low for this car. We would say that the engine is just run in here in Sweden. Be aware if the engine service is irregular, though, and good luck with your little gem.
Saab forever! Keep please videos coming up
Hi kyle . I am with you all the way . I own a 95 with the V6 3.0t and its so smooth i love it
Spot on Kyle!.a Saab for all seasons!👍
I’m convinced Kyle! But don’t push the prices up!! 🤙🤙🤙
I have driven my free 2002 saab 95 for à year now. Runs great . Had to replace timing chain and ignition module when I first got the car and all vacuum hoses .
I own a 9-5 sport combi wagon. 2005. It's great! had 80K when I bought it. Now has 225k miles.
Tighten your head bolts, they shake loose and can hydro lock your engine and shatter pistons. Happened to me at 276,000 miles
@@robludwigsen7831 I have never heard of this happening to anyone
@@sumnik852 happened to me, wheeler dealers also talked about it...its a known problem.
@@robludwigsen7831 your engine hydrolocked because of this?
@@sumnik852 yes, piston shattered+rod bent
Love the community you are so right ...
Never getting rid of my 03 Aero, want to convert it to ethanol and stage 1 or 2 for time attack.
Fun Fact: 2003 Saab 9-5: First production car with Vented seats.
Right dude I'm never getting aride of mines has 240k still runs awesome
Kyle...great video. You are spot-on! Since new, my 2008 9-5 has cost me $3,700 in parts, labor and fluids. Except for the throttle body, every penny spent was on wear and preventative maintenance.
I replaced my first throttle body at 79,000 miles with a new Hella, and just had to replace it again at 112,000. Pissed me off. This time I bought a used one from Goldwing. Also, on the 05-09 9-5's, the Mitsubishi TD04 turbocharger is a beast, and will regularly go 200,000+ miles.
My 2008 9-5 has never left me stranded. I do wish that I didn't have to fill it with premium, and in-town stop & go mileage is awful...about 10 mpg. But I do get 30 mpg on the highway.
When I finally sell mine, the buyer will get a fantastic vehicle with many happy miles of motoring.
I love my SAAB 9-5 Aero form 2003, i just love driving it, sadly i live in Sweden and we salt our roads heavily, and sadly the old SAABs hate it and rost, like my SAAB i need to fix the rost and it will cost me 15 000 Swedish kronor or 1500€ for a professional to fix it, with is kinda expensive... but i will save up to i and fix it. the other things i have fixed so far are, new Xenon lights, new xenon level controller, new gas pump, new 3 inch exhaust pipe (former 2 inch pipe and very baldy repaird) and a new handle for the trunk. then another thing i need to fix is the engine and transmission bushings. then i think the car will be fully fixed =D
So if you don't mind speeding some money now and then, you will have a very nice car to drive or maybe a car to have some fun in! my SAAB got the 2.3T engine with stage 1 trim witch gives it around 270 horse power, i have gotten her to 220 km/h so far, which was extremely fun for me to do! So boys and girls if you wand a cheep and fun car to drive get a SAAB, you will almost never regret having one in you life.
I have a 9-5 Aero from 2004 nothing has broken on it since day one, and then i have a TTID Saab 9-3 from 08, A 9-3 Aero 2.8T from 08 & Also a 9-5 Linear from 06
@@Desynccc damn, nice! Then you got luck, Saabs have tendens to brake somewhere, but seems you got a rly good saab
@@leevasson8869 Oh yeah for sure! I also live in sweden haha i got the 9-5 from Aero
i had a Saab 9-5 with a 3.0 TiD. And it was an fantastic car!
I already have one. A 2004 9-5 2,3t 185hp. LOVE it. Comfortable, good looking (a Hazelnut sedan just like the one in the video) and reliable.
9-5’s are such a good bang for your buck! Fantastic daily’s 👌
I'm on my third Saab (900, then 9-5 which got an oil leak into the turbo and now a 9-3) drove to Italy and back twice from Manchester in the UK and I love it. Was so sad to see them stop production
Awesome description bro ! Keep going . Greetings from Romania :))
It's an excellent video ! I am a proud owner of a 2008 Wagon, with 253k on it. Smooth and comfortable.
Holding on to my 2002 9-5 and my 1988 900 turbo. I fix things as they break but they're structurally indestructible! Great for not rusting, even in Ontario, Canada!
Agree with everything you said. I will always own one
haha! Amazing
I’ve had an ‘01 5-speed 9-5 Aero wagon as a primary workhorse for almost seven years. I find the key to reliability is to have a second highly-depreciated Saab (a ‘96 9000 Aero, for example) sitting next to it as a backup just in case.
I own a 2008 9-5 saab , it only had 93, 000 miles on it when I bought it 😎 Great car , I love it ❤thanks for sharing your video.
Amazing car! Thanks for all the support and views
Nice video thank
I have had a 2.3t BioPower (2006) for 10 years now as a daily driver. Never had any major issues, and it always starts and runs flawlessly. Definitely never going to get rid of it.
the 2.3t engines are definitely more reliable than the GM engines were, I have an 02 9-5 aero with 240k miles and haven't had any major issues with it either, it's never broken down and the only stuff that's been relaced is either for fun like the boost controller, or just standard like the subframe bushings which were getting a little rough after being driven relatively hard for 230k miles
Bidding a 2008 Saab 9-5 w/ 25k miles right now, My bid is well over MSRP, I hope i dont regret it! But its clean, your video makes me want it more.
SAAB was the BEST Innovation car of the world. They was 10-15 forward the concurrenz. The really good security car.
Like the Sedan quite a lot especially when it's an Aero but, 900s NG and OG with Turbo are too amazing
2004 9-5 2.3t automatic SportLinear owner here. Best car I've ever owned.
The cheap Stage 1 tune turned it from a rather docile and staid family car into a fun wolf-in-sheeps-clothing solid and powerful touring car. Night and day difference.
Everything about this car is grand!
After having 2x 900 and 1x 9-3 20 yrs later waiting for my new to me 9-5 Sportkombi coming in the next two days, can’t wait!!!!’
I am totally agree with you. I bought mine last week. There are a lot things I need to fixed because of the knocking in the engine. If you have any suggestions let me know. I bought a lot of parts waterpomp engine gaskets etc etc... Hope to hear from you. Netherlands Saab 2.3 Aero.
That’s one reason I bought mine the grocery thing! I worry about so much stuff when I take my ‘19 Golf R to the store (or my work, got door dinged there too) and it’s nice to have the other car. That said, it’s not just a mule, it’s a nice comfy quick-ish smooth cruiser that holds a unique place in car history
The Golf R is just a golf. I don't know why Golf R and GTI get glorified as garage queens. Makes me cringe when someone stores a golf R in the garage over winter. They literally cost the same as Honda CRV. Drive it, take precautions but enjoy it like the 30-40 grand car it is.
@@22chachalaca I don’t know anything about Honda CRV’s or how expensive you think they are but my Golf R is not “just” anything. That’s my dream car and yeah I drive the crap out of it. All that much more reason why I need a beater. I intend to keep my Golf forever and want it to last a long time. And it was expensive to me for sure.
I agree with most of what you say except when you say they are a little bit unreliable,I have had 4 Saabs and have had very few problems ,had to replace one turbo that's all that ever failed
@@justin_san_souci I understand it's expensive to you, but at the end of the day it's a $40,000 car. I love them too but it's something to put the miles on and use daily. It's a very tame daily, unless you put your foot into it it doesn't feel much different than a base TSI, which is a good or bad thing however you look at it..
@@22chachalaca well that’s your opinion.
I have a 170k saab 93 2004 ot has a mapped 1.9tid 180bhp engine, and it's absolutely amazing, combined mpg is over 50. Such a smooth engine and sooooo comfy.
I love my 2004 sabb 9-5 aero with the stock internals. I would love to get rid of my hard start so I could tune it.
Hello from Seattle just got 9.5 wagon 2001 nice car to drive
Kyle!!! I love your videos man. Really have helped me a lot!!! I have a 2005 Saab 9-5 Arc 2.3t. With 103k miles. Got it for a steal with one owner! Long story short. Ive had it for a year now. I have some of the common issues you have demonstrated. My car had a/c. One day the resistor or the fan stopped. I have the vibrations of the mounts. Changing them once they arrive. Im working on it because I agree. I love the car, its amazing. My work car but i love it. Anyway, as of the past month. My saab has turned off on me like 5 or 6 times. It only happenes when im idling or driving real slow (died twice reversing) today died 3 times while waiting at a drive thru. I get no check engine lights and it turns on right away
Amazing, glad to hear this! How many miles in the car??
@@KylePancis thanks man and it has as of now. 125935
Saab be my dream. Month ago i buy my first car... saab 93 1,8t and he is awesome :)
Thanks Saab friend...I Have saved and currently restoring a 9-5 vector with a colour code 288 graphtie green pearl...My youngest daughters 9-5 sedan is under rerstoring ...has a lot of rust.....man i love your channel..Greetings Former Mechanic in 26 years old..I worked on Chevrolet and Saab in 7 years...Everybody laughed at me...A did not like the Opel at the dealership..they were too bad assambled...I love Chevrolet and my Saabs are many...Thanks again for taking your time too making your great videos....I think honest work is the best way ....The Saab cars is different oh yes...but taking my word for it...Iove the history of American cars....I think the US has a uniqe way of been honest...i love that...Greetings former mechanic and UN soldier in peace at heart...Thanks for sharing your videos ..Greetings Saab friend in Norway...Europe..The Saab cars were expensive yes...but when you looked upon safety...yep...no chines car from me ever...sorry ..but the safety is not in my opinion good enough....Stay safe and have a good summer...
Just bought a 2002 9 5 Aero SpoertEstate. Had Euro cars all my life but had avoided SAABs for the exact reasons you pointed out...people tell you they're unreliable, etc...well, even if they are unreliable, those seats make up for it. It's a beautifully built car and just so much better than any German car I've had. Such a shame GM killed them. They also killed our Holdens down here in Oz. But, back on topic...SAAB seats! OMG, they understand a seat.
I want the last generation 95. Looks so good. Might get another 93
I will also add that the Saab B235R engine is almost bullet proof if looked after properly, and will do 250,000 miles easily. I can see why you love your Saab and I agree with you that they are brilliant cars and the Aero 9-5 is surprisingly quick when accelerating between 40 -70 mph. Jeremy Clarkson of Top Gear fame once claimed that it was quicker than a Porsche 911 when accelerating between those speeds. I know I have embarrassed a few BMWs when I had my 9-5 Aero!🤣
i have a classic saab 900 turbo from its last production year 1993 with trionic ignition
Top car. One of the best.
"Blue", my '99 9-3 CV, would love a 9-5 wgn companion (ideally also 5-spd, a rarity now in the US).
I have one too!
Owned a 2000 9-3 convertible and loved it. Sadly it threw a rod and finding parts in michigan was impossible. Sad day.
I owned a 9-5 Aero a few years ago. Got rid of it with 165,000 miles on the clock as was doing lots of miles and needed a diesel, fuel prices are higher in the UK. Great car never used a drop of oil, had been remapped and still pulled unbelievably well. Very comfortable and no rust at all. Had a few electrical gremlins but nothing mechanical and used as a daily driver. Recently got a Turbo X but 9-3 just aren’t as well built as the 9-5 and don’t feel as solid. Owned a 900, 9000 as well all superb cars.
My Saab 9-5. 2005 owner 220000 kilometres, still runs like brand new. Great build quality
I've owned my 93 for a year and have swapped out all the steering components, new inlet pipe and air intake, about to start on suspension and then a tune. Car drives great but just need a little more ummppphhh when I hit the gas. Luckily I have had only one problem since buying the car everything else I've replaced was just for want not need
Why buy an OG 9-5?
Unique, a lot of “bang for the buck”, and relatively simple to work on. Also still has a Saab designed engine. There are far more 9-3s on the road than 9-5s, so if you want to stand out, get the 9-5. Is it going to be as reliable as a Toyota? Probably not, but I can promise you that it will be much more fun to drive. And if you don’t want the car for performance, that’s ok. Enjoy the high mpg, the heated seats, sunroof, and a lot of other features that 9-5s have. Most of the time, I drive like a grandpa and can get 26 mpg in town.
That said, if you don’t want to work on your car, you may want to look elsewhere. Some shops will try to scam you out of $$$ because “iT’s a EuRoPeAn CaR!”, and people will tell you that parts are no longer made. That is BS. Do people stop driving Pontiacs, Oldsmobiles, or Saturns because the manufacturers are no longer around? Of course not. Manufacturers do not make parts, they assemble. And parts availability for GM era Saabs is pretty good in the US. If you’re completely new to working on cars, try to find someone who is familiar with Saabs, or better yet, a Saab mechanic who can help you out. And definitely join the Facebook groups.
Its true, i own three 9-5 estates, all of them i bought at 170k miles, no major issues so far
Perfectly content with my '98 900SET, but otherwise I agree with most of what you have to say. But my 900 Convertible is SEXY
Bro I’ve got the same car, nothing like putting her in 3rd and over taking people
2005 Saab 9 5 2.3t ARC. First time I ever bought a car with a turbo. It's a cool car, but mine needs some work. Not sure if it's going to be worth it for me to pay someone to do it for me since it will probably be over 2k worth of work.
It is a really smooth ride on the parkway though. You don't even realise how fast you are going. I think I bought it at like 150k and now it has 178k. Did the brakes and put a new muffler in. Replaced the water valve and water pump.
The mechanic is saying he can't find the parts, but i guess they only look through a few of their own distributers. I guess you can still find the parts online... I'll have to see if I order the parts online, maybe they'll be able to put them in
Not lying best car I ever owned
I agree 100% You will pay a little more for face lifted 2002 and up models especially for the Aero trim.
Great alternative to the Germanic trio, class & kudos without being brash or ostentatious, Saab a Boss motor ✌️😎
Really nice looking Saab Kyle grettings from Sweden, got one myself that I owned since 2013 a 2004 Saab 9-5 Aero Espresso Black Metallic station wagon, we got 4 Saabs my wife got 2 a TTID 2008 Saab 9-3 2008 and a 2006 Saab 9-5 Station wagon, I got that Aero 2004 station wagon and recently bought a Saab 9-3 2008 Aero V6 255HP snow silver I think the color is named and low milage on that Aero 9-3 :)
Amazing collection
My honest review is, they brake alot inside out, Lot of maintenance, But very smooth ride, lush looks, canny fast. I will miss my saab but without the tech2 and full mechanical knowledge its not a reliable car i had one of the lowest mileage in the uk bought years ago with 40,000. TRUTH IS without Kyle pancis and the other couple of wellknown youtubers they are the nain ones keeping saab going toat respect thank you for being there when i needed help most kyle. Like i said i will always be a subscriber. And like yur vids. Peace out. P.s my problems were mainly electrical wires and a earth bug,
Amazing, thank you for all the support! Electrical can get nasty for sure!
Bought my '04 Saab 9-5 Estate 2.3t (185hp) for 500 euro's, because the turbo was busted. Replaced the turbo and exhaust. And a year later the engine (turns out the previous owner never changed the oil, and the balance shaft bearings took a hit because of it. Engine still runs fine, just the oil light came on when the oil was warm. 😅 )
Was cheaper to get another engine, 650 euro's for a good one.)
The original engine is still in storage, going to be rebuild eventually.
Hey Kyle! Just found your awesome channel through the Switching Lanes video with a rebuilt 9-5. There is a 2008 9-5 Griffin near me with 105K and clean history. Place wants $5500. What do you think? Really miss my OLD 900Turbo from 20 years ago. Any tips on things to look for? Thanks man!
got two of them , 20 turbo sport, and hot Aero
I'll respectfully disagree. I own a 2011 95 and I love it. I got lucky and inherited it relatively inexpensively from a dear friend. I've spent a few dollars bringing it up to snuff but I don't regret it one bit. It will probably get a new timing chain during the winter , but it will insure a long life of enjoyment! It never ceases to amaze me how up to date it is for a 10+ year old car. The only thing I miss is the backup camera, but maybe I'll get it done this spring.
Yes I agree, my 04 Saab 9-5 aero is awesome for all around efficient and is fun to drive. It’s actually identical to your Saab Kyle. However I need to sell it because I have a company car now. So if anyone here is interested it’s a available, low mileage and in family since new, best car I’ve ever owned and the video is spot on about this car.
You will regret selling hahaha
@@KylePancis yeah! Already having second thoughts, hard to get rid of a car you really like driving.
If you find a 95 aero og buy that shit it’s fantastic still got mine and it’s a trooper
Had a 2004 9-5 Aero and no issues aside from one electrical which was an easy fix and it got me to 170k miles no problems other than that one. Then gave it to my mother and she totaled it 3 days later. Then got her a Nissan Rogue and she totaled that in 2 weeks, then a brand new Nissan Murano and she totaled that. So that was the last time i got her a car. But when she crashed my Saab that i bought when new i was so disappointed lol. Had every option even the ventilated front seats which was great
Well, i will point out one thing, Saab 9-5, 00-03 has a faulty oil-pickup, due to the exhaust being to close to the oilpan = the oil isnt picked up, cuz of the heat and kinda fumes away = low oil pressure = dead engine. If you drive like grandma, you'll be fine. If you like to speed a little, you are doomed :) Other then that, you are on point.
I like saab
I have a 2005 9-3 convertible which was in the garage the other day and they gave me a 2000 9-5 as a courtesy car with 130,000 on it for a couple of days. The first thing I noticed is the car had more torque than my 9-3 but wow it used a lot of fuel. I got only mid 20's miles per gallon driving it moderately. They don't depreciate yeah but fuel economy is harsh if you do a lot of miles that will soon add up. My Skoda 1.6 diesel does a real world 65 MPG so I found the 9-5 painful fuel economy wise. This is more important in the UK as fuel costs a lot more over here.
Yea they can burn a little more. Fingers crossed the u.s doesn't embrace the same policy and taxes on our fuel.
I’m on 160k miles on mine.Is their any preventative maintenance I need to do? I’ve done PCV system, change oil every 5k etc.Do I need to do the timing chain? Thanks Luke,England
I wish I could drive mine right now, it wont start and just cranks. I replaced cps and installed a new dic and plugs.I hear the fuel pump ,but I don't think its getting spark :(
Agree with most of what you said with some caveats. While its very comfortable and the cabin ambience is nice I wouldn't call it spacious. Actually for the outside size of a car its rather cramped inside. I'm 190cm and my head touches the ceiling. Same goes for the rear space - comfortable seats but not much headroom or kneeroom. Most parts as you say are easily available, but some are not - like the ABS module for 2004 cars which is very hard to find for a reasonable price and which is most often unrepairable if it goes wrong (and it does go wrong). So the Christmas lights are on for more than a year on mine. And even if you manage to iron out most glitches, the resistance to corrosion is rather weak which becomes very apparent in colder climates so it steadily rots away. What I most dislike about it is the bouncy and crude suspension. All things considered, I still love driving my 9-5. Over 200.000 miles, stars all the time and is as fast as it ever was despite most of the warning lights on :)
Thanks for your videos!
Here is a video on ABS module. Dont need a new module as you can get them rebuilt! ua-cam.com/video/pwcRUBLwyRY/v-deo.html
Call pick-n-pulls ask them to pull one. I had an 04 aero module in my hand 2 yrs ago. Left it under the hood when i found an 03 linear instead. $25 I should have bought it and resold it.
There is a white aero for sale at a lot near me. Asking $1695. I would but love my 2006 Aero manual.
Haha! Least you have one
I have owned my 2004 9-5 Estate/Wagon since 2008. While she still runs great she would benefit from an owner who can either do the typical work a car of her age and 165,000 miles requires. Im 72 and only drive ~ 5000 miles a year. Silver Grey with grey interior, leather, heated seats, sunroof, power windows/locks,automatic, etc. You can see picture in Saab Central (UN 5Xsaabowner). Make a reasonable offer and she can be yours
Great
I have a 95 220 Arc 2004 love it but struggling to find a front stabilizer rod . it's been an Mot advisory for 3 years now about time it was done
Is it the rod or just bushings....bushings costs 10€ and if you manage to break 20mm thick iron rod its 80€ theres one big firm in britain which is specialized on saab parts....just use Google or order it from sweden.there are couple of firms in sweden which has almost every part you might need.maptuning, speedparts sweden etc etc...
@@jkarra2334 thanking you it's been done.
So I always wanted a SAAB. I really liked the Dame 9-5 from your rebuild video, and I DM'd you about a rebuilt one I found thinking it was the one from you video.
Long story short, if you recall, it wasn't yours, and I grabbed an 07 Sportcombi locally for cheap and have been fixing the little bits needed. Well, now that I'm fully invested in the SAAB world, I'm seeing the "Dame's" starting to go up in price. I'm seeing 100k models going for $8 to $15k for them!
Don't know if I got lucky at the right time, but the Dame's seem to be going up in value already. Even though they are the unloved face-lift. Either way, keep up the good work. If you want, I'm on Insta at the_sunday_swede.
In 5 years after 100k miles of my own driving I think I spent 8-10k pounds on maintenance and repairs, just replaced the gearbox this weekend and upgraded bilstein suspension b8, still love my 95 aero from 2004 and not many cars can touch it
Saab 9-5 Areo -05 4 door is the most good looking model.
Hey kyle I Have 1999 Saab 9-5 With Almost The Same Mileage As You Any Idea Where I Can Find A Flywheel Cover Plate From The Transmission I Have 4 Speed Automatic I Can't Find Them Online Any Ideas The One I Have Is Little Bent & I Need Do The Oil Pan Gasket
Prob junk yard...any way to bend it back into place? Metal hammer
Sharktooth is the only model for me imo 👌
Have 2004 9-5 aero its whaoooooo
Ok, But? No One In my area workson them and parts? Wait on line and hope they fit?
Shhh dont tell other people about the saab 9-5. It is the best car ever built.
Have a Saab 2004 Aero wagon. Went to check transmission fluid and it came gushing out. Otherwise it's been a great car. What might be the problem. There are no affordable Saab repair shops near me and no way would I trust one of those national chain transmission repair shops.
Hey, guy from Sweden here. Got 2 saab 95 aeros 2004, one which is sedan and one which is combi.
Had the combi for 4 years now, and the sedan i got like a month ago. Gonna keep them both, great cars.
You Can modify alot on These cars, the sedan i got is modified alot so its got better handling looks and performance overall, but still got the saab feeling if you know what i mean. The combi is pretty much stock except for a stage 1 and some other minor things, and it shall remain so :)
How can you live in swe without owning and driving these things, they are super affordable, and if you work on them yourself you can save lots of money, that and the fact that they generally are cheap to get makes them super economical to own. Performance for cheap guys, especially the aero models, goes for the 93 too of course
I have a 2005 sedan aero(stage 1)love it, lately I have been thinking about getting a 2004-2005 Aero Wagon. Can you explain what difference you feel from a driving perspective between a sedan and a wagon if any? I'm curious. The wagon has been growing on me 😂
@@nab5018 i think none except that the wagon is a little heavier (like 70-100 kg?). The sedan is probably just a little better because of that. However my sedan got different shocks and other mods and my wagon is stock so its not comparable because of that.
Wagon is superior due to more storage, thats all, from a Driving perspective very similar just that the sedan is lighter which is nice.
@@achmed51 thank you very much for taking the time to answer! My plan is to upgrade my suspension which is feeling a bit tired with Bilsteins and Eibach springs and progressively take it to a healthy 320-350 hp with upgraded turbo and internals nothing too crazy but make it into kind of an Aero R or Hirsch+😂. And using better silicones hoses , powerflex bushing... Will see later for an Wagon lol
@@nab5018 i got bilstein h8 all round and maptun springs on the sedan, makes a big difference from stock. The car becomes more responsive in its steering and more stiff. Feels more sporty. Not the most comfy, the stock ones are softer which perhaps is preferred by people in general. But i like it.
Great idea that with the engine! I have stage 3 ethanol in mine, it does not include the upgraded Turbo, its supposed to be 315 hk and 450 nm on ethanol, 290 hk 440 nm om petrol.
I have the powerflex bushings aswell.
Who will make the software for your tune? I have maptune.
@@achmed51 that sounds like a great set up, the kind I am looking for. I am already very happy with the car in general. It's way beyond what I expected. As time passed I love it more and more. Awesome cars! Already very quick in stage one so I can't imagine yours lol or mine very soon
Got 9-5 Aero HOT...best second car ever had....Volvo S80 is a bit better.
I was interested until 6:40. I get that Saabs are safe but if you’re going to get a beater car then why is this a better choice than a used Toyota or Honda? Those two brands have plenty of cheap parts and proven reliability to keep the cost of ownership low. However, owning a 9-5 station wagon would be cool.
I would say there are 3 reasons. Comfortable seats. Powerful engine and initial if not total costs. But there are twice as many ie. 6 reasons to own a Saab 9-3 2.0 sportcombi 2010 or 2011 aero. Seats. All wheel drive. Compact size to zip through traffic on busy streets, cheaper maintenance if any for novices (more reliable and newer), more in the spirit of the 900, the coolest Saab ever made, and a beautiful interior and dash. Am I wrong here? 2 to 1 people in these surveys prefer the 9-3 to the 9-5 so I don't think so. Even if it is the V6 9-3. But honestly, I don't like V-6 engines. (V5 is favorite). They're too heavy (affecting safety on wet roads and handling), too fast (yes, this is possible), and I don't want a 3900 pound car. If you disagree, please let me know. I am open to having my mind changed if you can give me 3 more reasons.
I dislike 95 for its weight too. They are too heavy and it takes them first 2 gears to open up. I like 95ng design inside and out most but then it is boring behind the wheel and I got scared of expensive spare body parts in case of accidents. I guess Saab is over in my mind for good. A brain says to pair up with different car makes.
Actually Saabs are going back up lately..fyi
would rather have my 93 :)
their good too!
@@KylePancis Say Kyle, is there a way to make the oil dipstick easier to see? I mean the plastic at the end is black and so is the oil...tough on my old eyes lol. i was considering a high temp white paint but am afraid of it lifting and clogging the oil sump. any thoughts?, nice content BTW, :)
Lol they were the biggest heap of crap I've ever deal with.
- ex Saab mechanic & parts interpreter
@I can see clearly Now now you are talking. 99/900/9000 proper saab not gm crap
@I can see clearly Now i would not know what a cadillac cts is . Its not a saab
hey kyle, off topic but i figured i’d ask. should i buy dogecoin?
A Saab 9000 is a real saab and a better vehicle than a gm 9-5
Ive test driven 9-5 1.9tid automatic, 110kw (2008) today and Im gutted. The car was heavy, no fun factor, leather seats just average, door handles squeezing, interior outdated in general. I dont get all that praise. It is just an average big car. Im after a sharper, stiffer feel. The body design outdated in person too (I dont get those ugly tail lights). The 95ng is miles better although slow too but at least much better interior quality and body looks sleek. I will give Saab one more chance with 93ng but I already presume that it will be just another average vehicle. My dreams are getting realistic about Saab. There must be some kind of false flag, false praise there.