long, tight hamstrings; knees shoved out; back way more horizontal than you think it should be; look down at the floor in in between your toes, not 3 feet in front of you. all these cues helped me squat with my hips.
Years ago, I developed quadriceps tendonitis. It's similar to patellar tendonitis, I think, but located instead above the kneecap. It was the damnedest thing I ever had, because back then I didn't know much and I in all my wisdom thought rest would heal it. To my complete surprise, the issue always came back soon after I started my physical activity again, which consisted back then of running. Consider my utter devastation :( I rested for weeks sometimes, hoping the pain would not return, but I knew deep down it would; and it did. I've had tendonitis from squatting only rarely and for brief moments. I started to squat to strengthen my legs, to get rid of the tendonitis. This was not exactly doctor's advice, because a doctor told me I'd never run again. A physiotherapist advised me to leg press to strengthen my legs. I did and it worked somewhat. Later, I started squatting, because leg pressing is boring and I could max out the machine (not plate-loaded). Initially, the tendonitis could flame up and I would battle with it for a while either squatting (or avoiding to squat). I was just learning to squat, you see, so my form was far from great. Anyway, fast forward and I know now and have known for years that correct squatting is the best thing for the knees (and hips and lots more, including the soul) and so my treatment for tendonitis (when it ever comes up, which is but rarely) is to just to squat heavy and for reps of 5. Not too heavy, but something in the 80% range. This makes the inflammation go away like magic. Squatting is indeed hip-dominant. That's where the body's strength is anyway: hip extension. I squat on average three times a week. The back squat is my favorite movement and I aim to perfect it each time I squat. It's my favorite movement, because it has improved my quality of life the most. I suffered from tendonitis for years. All that could have been prevented or just been a matter of days, but I blame the complete fools and frauds in the medical establishment including doctors and the legions of physical therapists or whatever fancy name they give themselves. I kid you not: the doctors want only to make X rays and then to advise on possible operations, which is how they make money, but I was too young, so the fraudsters didn't dare suggest that (there's hope left for them). The therapists rely on 20-minute BS sessions during which they just prod and make you feel sorry for yourself. They give a few "core" exercises, if they are really up-to-date (hahahah). For all I care, all those people drop dead. I've met some snake-oil salesmen there, oh boy. They still make me laugh, but I'm not sure if it's a laugh. Sort of a grimace. The amount of money I wasted, sheesh, but I needed to get rid of the tendonitis and I never gave up. I knew people who also had tendonitis (patellar) and they gave up. I think it's a sign of weakness to give up. Those people didn't want to squat anymore. They also didn't do deadlifts, because that also started hurting apparently. Well, I can believe that. Once you stop squatting, it's easy to make more excuses. The body becomes frail and the mind is evermore temped to avoid hardship. Meanwhile, I keep squatting and deadlifting. Once upon a time, men stormed the beaches of Normandy, and that's what I think of when squatting heavy, so I don't whine. I mean, it's not like there's artillery fire aimed at me, nor are there shells exploding about me. It's just crummy gym music and douchebags curling in the other squat racks. Actually, I prefer national socialists sniping at me as I squat, if only the douchebags would not be there. My solution is to build a home gym. Pretty good time to do so now, anyway. If only they had equipment for sale...
Do you wear squat shoes? I bought mine and squat became much easier but I developed knee pain cause I didnt adapt to them, and first session I lifted heavy.
@@t0malito404 Yes, I wear Adipowers. I like them. My update about tendonitis is that I really never have it anymore. It was a programming issue when it did flare up, after my technique was already solid. Have a nice day.
Brother, I am dealing with exactly the same. The pain happened due to walking on rocks though as I work in a mine But, my pain is 90% gone since a week, pain happened 7 days back. Idk I am still squatting, daily knee & leg rehabs, i am moving, i am just scared. I squat atg & do you think I should atg or not? Should I switch to low bar?
The cure for tendinitis anywhere on the body is extreme high rep rubber band work. The tendons MUST be worked at high reps in order to flush them with blood or they do not heal. I have cured multiple bouts of tendinitis on various spots with high rep rubber band work performed at least three times per week. It may take a few weeks to resolve depending on severity but it will work if you stick with it.
All I can talk from is my own experience. When I started squatting -I had the worse form and after a few sessions it felt like two red hot wires were running down both knees so I gave it up. It has taken me a long time to get it right - recently I finally hit 200kgs after figuring it out and have been squatting correctly for a few years. Never had any knee pain at all - quite the opposite. Keep working at it guys, knees out - use your ass and hips - once you figure it out, you will not look back. It may seem like it is not possible - but you end up using the tendons behind the knee for squatting - not the patella that runs over it. It is exactly as Rip has pointed out (yep I am a Rip fanboi meh). Good luck! It is worth it!
They also help make your knees weaker and easier to reinjure. Those things are meant to be used temporarily and by people who are coming back from an injury that had them unable to exercise for an extended period.
My knees are wrecked, but wraps allow me to squat heavy and often. It took me years to try them and am so thankful l finally did. I was finally able to make gains with this crucial exercise added to my training. Thanks Rip!
Compression cuffs saved my left elbow. Knee sleeves haven't given me the same degree of compression and now that I'm dealing with knee madness I have a feeling knee wraps will be my saving grace! Of course I am always playing around with stance and moving as efficiently as possible, but I also don't like to quit lifting heavy as it is a great release and something I love doing!
@@ProphetFear Let's put the name calling aside. Suffice to say that yes, for some people, the knee-forward quad-dominant style works well; Olympic-style weightlifters come to mind. But for some of us, that style of squatting just doesn't work because we get serious knee inflammation when we try it. For us, a squat that recruits more hips is what we need in order to be able to train consistently and make gains without triggering tendonitis. I don't purport to know WHY this is so; perhaps it's just different bone structures.
I had patellar tendinitis for 2 years from repetitive motions and squats. Chemotherapy had made my tendons tight. What fixed it was stretching my quads.
If knees are so easily and permanently injured with squats maybe Scooby's skateboard squats are the way to go. Maybe he was on to something all along, all this time. He's never had an injury and he's been jacked all his life.
from having patellar tendinopathy and doing a lot of research, it sounds to me like this video is talking about tendonitis, like all the comments are talking about, which is indeed inflammation, compared to tendinopathy which is not inflammation but rather exceeding the tendon's load capacity.
I understand the general concept of “work through it with the right form” as well as the theory behind triggering the inflammation response to be big enough that your body fixed it - but my tendinitis is in my wrist caused from an accident I had a couple years ago, doc said that allegedly my scaphoid bone was a certain degrees turned in the wrong direction. Doctor was full of shit and just wanted money from me and kept fucking me around on appointments. How can I fix this and just get it gone for good? It’s fucking annoying.
How do I get rid of poping knees when I get squat down? I low bar squat and use my hips like rip teaches, but its still pretty off putting when I squat down and my knees pop at parallel or just below. It doesn't hurt but it puts you off. And I dont want it to start hurting.
Friction massage gets rid of scar tissue and when paired with a good rehab plan it will replace the scar tissue with tendon as well as gain fumm mobility of the tendon. You shouldn’t speak on patellar tendonitis/tendonopathy if you dont fully understand it sir. Also eccentrics eccentrics eccentrics eccentrics. Eccentric squats on a 25 degree slant board will help make it stiff and then youll be able to lightly strengthen some muscles because u might pleatou like how it did at 3x12 reps. Then work your way up to 3x15 then start adding 5lbs every week until you get to maybe 40 then start doing plyometrics on a total gym working your way up slowly. This program is available to view for FREE if u type in patellar tendonitis tehav evidence on goggle. Also i agree. Doctors dont know anything about anything.
I’ve noticed that people with pain in their knees have poor ankle mobility which drives their knees forward in every motion involving the legs, do that for 2 or more decades and suddenly the knees hurt but only when trying to sit or stand up or going up and down stairs (because squatting is not on their To Do List).
ProphetFear Oh I understand now, you don’t know what squat variations are. And yes, you finally get it about knee extensions. Let me know when you are squatting at The Olympics. Sorry if I sound crass, it sounds like you are hating on the way SS coaches the squat.
@@crucifixgym I've probably done more squat variations than you have done variations _at all_ just to be clear. Also yes I do not like the SS squat, and when Ripotatoe here claims it's the "right" way to squat I don't know whether to laugh or roll my eyes.
Yep squat way back boys and your knees will last forever - 53 yrs old and been squatting since a teen and still squat 400+ for reps weekly naturally.
long, tight hamstrings; knees shoved out; back way more horizontal than you think it should be; look down at the floor in in between your toes, not 3 feet in front of you. all these cues helped me squat with my hips.
Thanks guys ^^
Low bar squats???
Years ago, I developed quadriceps tendonitis. It's similar to patellar tendonitis, I think, but located instead above the kneecap. It was the damnedest thing I ever had, because back then I didn't know much and I in all my wisdom thought rest would heal it. To my complete surprise, the issue always came back soon after I started my physical activity again, which consisted back then of running. Consider my utter devastation :( I rested for weeks sometimes, hoping the pain would not return, but I knew deep down it would; and it did.
I've had tendonitis from squatting only rarely and for brief moments. I started to squat to strengthen my legs, to get rid of the tendonitis. This was not exactly doctor's advice, because a doctor told me I'd never run again. A physiotherapist advised me to leg press to strengthen my legs. I did and it worked somewhat. Later, I started squatting, because leg pressing is boring and I could max out the machine (not plate-loaded). Initially, the tendonitis could flame up and I would battle with it for a while either squatting (or avoiding to squat). I was just learning to squat, you see, so my form was far from great. Anyway, fast forward and I know now and have known for years that correct squatting is the best thing for the knees (and hips and lots more, including the soul) and so my treatment for tendonitis (when it ever comes up, which is but rarely) is to just to squat heavy and for reps of 5. Not too heavy, but something in the 80% range. This makes the inflammation go away like magic. Squatting is indeed hip-dominant. That's where the body's strength is anyway: hip extension.
I squat on average three times a week. The back squat is my favorite movement and I aim to perfect it each time I squat. It's my favorite movement, because it has improved my quality of life the most. I suffered from tendonitis for years. All that could have been prevented or just been a matter of days, but I blame the complete fools and frauds in the medical establishment including doctors and the legions of physical therapists or whatever fancy name they give themselves. I kid you not: the doctors want only to make X rays and then to advise on possible operations, which is how they make money, but I was too young, so the fraudsters didn't dare suggest that (there's hope left for them). The therapists rely on 20-minute BS sessions during which they just prod and make you feel sorry for yourself. They give a few "core" exercises, if they are really up-to-date (hahahah). For all I care, all those people drop dead. I've met some snake-oil salesmen there, oh boy. They still make me laugh, but I'm not sure if it's a laugh. Sort of a grimace. The amount of money I wasted, sheesh, but I needed to get rid of the tendonitis and I never gave up. I knew people who also had tendonitis (patellar) and they gave up. I think it's a sign of weakness to give up. Those people didn't want to squat anymore. They also didn't do deadlifts, because that also started hurting apparently. Well, I can believe that. Once you stop squatting, it's easy to make more excuses. The body becomes frail and the mind is evermore temped to avoid hardship. Meanwhile, I keep squatting and deadlifting. Once upon a time, men stormed the beaches of Normandy, and that's what I think of when squatting heavy, so I don't whine. I mean, it's not like there's artillery fire aimed at me, nor are there shells exploding about me. It's just crummy gym music and douchebags curling in the other squat racks. Actually, I prefer national socialists sniping at me as I squat, if only the douchebags would not be there. My solution is to build a home gym. Pretty good time to do so now, anyway. If only they had equipment for sale...
Thanks for sharing. I'm actually dealing with the same issue you described ( the pain from the top of the knee).
You had me until the Nazi thing
Do you wear squat shoes? I bought mine and squat became much easier but I developed knee pain cause I didnt adapt to them, and first session I lifted heavy.
@@t0malito404 Yes, I wear Adipowers. I like them. My update about tendonitis is that I really never have it anymore. It was a programming issue when it did flare up, after my technique was already solid. Have a nice day.
Brother, I am dealing with exactly the same. The pain happened due to walking on rocks though as I work in a mine
But, my pain is 90% gone since a week, pain happened 7 days back.
Idk I am still squatting, daily knee & leg rehabs, i am moving, i am just scared.
I squat atg & do you think I should atg or not?
Should I switch to low bar?
The cure for tendinitis anywhere on the body is extreme high rep rubber band work. The tendons MUST be worked at high reps in order to flush them with blood or they do not heal. I have cured multiple bouts of tendinitis on various spots with high rep rubber band work performed at least three times per week. It may take a few weeks to resolve depending on severity but it will work if you stick with it.
Flush them with blood
brian serious His/her/xe’s comment needs flushing...
May I ask what rep range? Would be eager to try with my relatively mild patella tendinopathy
How do I do band work for the knees?
i swear to god there is truth in this comment.
All I can talk from is my own experience. When I started squatting -I had the worse form and after a few sessions it felt like two red hot wires were running down both knees so I gave it up. It has taken me a long time to get it right - recently I finally hit 200kgs after figuring it out and have been squatting correctly for a few years. Never had any knee pain at all - quite the opposite. Keep working at it guys, knees out - use your ass and hips - once you figure it out, you will not look back. It may seem like it is not possible - but you end up using the tendons behind the knee for squatting - not the patella that runs over it. It is exactly as Rip has pointed out (yep I am a Rip fanboi meh). Good luck! It is worth it!
Congrats on the 200 kg.
This is Rip at his best. Thanks. This is great advice.
I've noticed that a relatively tight pair of knee sleeves will help with the pain.
Same
I agree. My knees may creak a bit while warming up, but the sleeves have helped to make the pain away.
They also help make your knees weaker and easier to reinjure. Those things are meant to be used temporarily and by people who are coming back from an injury that had them unable to exercise for an extended period.
@@matthewmchenry2889 How do you know that?
Matthew McHenry I’m having some serious doubts about that statement.
My knees are wrecked, but wraps allow me to squat heavy and often. It took me years to try them and am so thankful l finally did. I was finally able to make gains with this crucial exercise added to my training. Thanks Rip!
Compression cuffs saved my left elbow. Knee sleeves haven't given me the same degree of compression and now that I'm dealing with knee madness I have a feeling knee wraps will be my saving grace! Of course I am always playing around with stance and moving as efficiently as possible, but I also don't like to quit lifting heavy as it is a great release and something I love doing!
Good to see Rush is expanding the Excellence In Broadcasting network.
Straight to the point and no bs - great video
"Squats are not a leg exercise they're a hip exercise" Brilliant analysis by Mark *RiPotatoe*
Imagine saying sucj gibberish lmao
@@r.lohengramm8709 AthleanX tier of stupid.
You’re the stupid ones.... But ewe already know that, don’t cha....
@@IRISHSALTMINER61 So you are actually arguing that squats are not a leg exercise AND calling other people stupid. wow lol
@@ProphetFear Let's put the name calling aside. Suffice to say that yes, for some people, the knee-forward quad-dominant style works well; Olympic-style weightlifters come to mind. But for some of us, that style of squatting just doesn't work because we get serious knee inflammation when we try it. For us, a squat that recruits more hips is what we need in order to be able to train consistently and make gains without triggering tendonitis. I don't purport to know WHY this is so; perhaps it's just different bone structures.
I had patellar tendinitis for 2 years from repetitive motions and squats. Chemotherapy had made my tendons tight. What fixed it was stretching my quads.
Hi Coach. Do you have any advice for lifting weights with Achilles tendonitis? Or would it be best to just rehab the injured area first?
Would this work with just doing proper deadlift technique?
If knees are so easily and permanently injured with squats maybe Scooby's skateboard squats are the way to go. Maybe he was on to something all along, all this time. He's never had an injury and he's been jacked all his life.
and hes on gear and doesn't go too heavy. I think Rip is oversimplifying the squat, its very easy to strain your knees on it.
from having patellar tendinopathy and doing a lot of research, it sounds to me like this video is talking about tendonitis, like all the comments are talking about, which is indeed inflammation, compared to tendinopathy which is not inflammation but rather exceeding the tendon's load capacity.
So low bar squats then?
What if you have patellar tendinitis but you squat high bar? How do you fix it?
stop squating high bar lol
Last time I was this early I wasn't using enough hip draaahve
Research Kneesovertoesguy and do tib raises
The dislikes are doctors that don’t know shit about strength training
I understand the general concept of “work through it with the right form” as well as the theory behind triggering the inflammation response to be big enough that your body fixed it - but my tendinitis is in my wrist caused from an accident I had a couple years ago, doc said that allegedly my scaphoid bone was a certain degrees turned in the wrong direction. Doctor was full of shit and just wanted money from me and kept fucking me around on appointments. How can I fix this and just get it gone for good? It’s fucking annoying.
How do I get rid of poping knees when I get squat down? I low bar squat and use my hips like rip teaches, but its still pretty off putting when I squat down and my knees pop at parallel or just below. It doesn't hurt but it puts you off. And I dont want it to start hurting.
It won't. I have had the same thing for as long as I remember. It will never stop popping but will not cause any issues itself. Just get used to it.
@@janpasierb5390 still very annoying
@@connorw360 Agreed. First time my gym partner heard that he though the wooden platform started breaking lol
Most of the time the popping joint is just an air. No worries.
Pain for 3 weeks??? Try having it for 15 years
Valsalva Maneuver Tutorial ?
Done, go find it....
Friction massage with your thuuuuummmsss
Friction massage gets rid of scar tissue and when paired with a good rehab plan it will replace the scar tissue with tendon as well as gain fumm mobility of the tendon. You shouldn’t speak on patellar tendonitis/tendonopathy if you dont fully understand it sir. Also eccentrics eccentrics eccentrics eccentrics. Eccentric squats on a 25 degree slant board will help make it stiff and then youll be able to lightly strengthen some muscles because u might pleatou like how it did at 3x12 reps. Then work your way up to 3x15 then start adding 5lbs every week until you get to maybe 40 then start doing plyometrics on a total gym working your way up slowly. This program is available to view for FREE if u type in patellar tendonitis tehav evidence on goggle. Also i agree. Doctors dont know anything about anything.
I’ve noticed that people with pain in their knees have poor ankle mobility which drives their knees forward in every motion involving the legs, do that for 2 or more decades and suddenly the knees hurt but only when trying to sit or stand up or going up and down stairs (because squatting is not on their To Do List).
But poor ankle mobility means my knees cant go forward though?
You can try nordic curls, but it's a very hard and painful technique. Most importantly get rid of seed oils and eat some liver.
If you’re gonna squat wrong, might as well just do knee extensions instead.
Contact the Olympics tell them they doing it wrong
brian serious Yeah I Can’t Squat Gold Medal event. Elite Olympic athletes don’t perform like ordinary people who don’t know how to squat.
If you think doing a squat morning is "right", might as well do knee extensions to build up your puny quads.
ProphetFear Oh I understand now, you don’t know what squat variations are. And yes, you finally get it about knee extensions. Let me know when you are squatting at The Olympics. Sorry if I sound crass, it sounds like you are hating on the way SS coaches the squat.
@@crucifixgym I've probably done more squat variations than you have done variations _at all_ just to be clear. Also yes I do not like the SS squat, and when Ripotatoe here claims it's the "right" way to squat I don't know whether to laugh or roll my eyes.
Ayup
Either say "a" or "yup". You can't say both.
Poorly aged lol
why?