The TRUTH about Organic Labels

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  • Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
  • Now you can buy everything from an organic apples to organic mac and cheese. But we wanted to know what that organic label actually means and if organic foods are really that much better for you to warrant their higher price.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 427

  • @eugenemakes
    @eugenemakes Рік тому +392

    There are some states where the barrier for entry is by state regulation so high that it’s not possible to do small scale organic farming at all! My dad had a small herd of about 20 dairy goats and was never allowed to sell the milk in stores because he couldn’t afford to get an industrial pasteurization setup. The truth is that most of the risk from raw milk comes from large scale industrial agriculture, and at such a small scale we never had a problem over a decade of drinking raw milk. He was able to sell the organic sauerkraut and kombucha he made, but without the organic label.

    • @FutureProofTV
      @FutureProofTV  Рік тому +66

      Yeah this is true of a lot of situations! There’s so many things that you need to pass it’s almost as if it was designed for certain large corporations to achieve only 🧐🧐🧐

    • @violetviolet888
      @violetviolet888 Рік тому +14

      Eugene Brukhman: This is a common problem in the industrialized conventional ag system that prohibits small organic farmers from scaling up. It's accessible processing facilities no matter if it's dairy, meat, produce, etc so they meet federal regulations. This is why Food Hubs can be helpful for certain farmers. Essential physical resources are needed in this country to enable organic producers.

    • @ryan_walker
      @ryan_walker Рік тому +7

      Hm. Where is he from? I would personally love the oppurtunity to buy raw goat milk from him!

    • @dannydaw59
      @dannydaw59 Рік тому +7

      It's safe if it's consumed soon after leaving the animal. The longer the supply chain the higher the risk.

    • @violetviolet888
      @violetviolet888 Рік тому +9

      @@dannydaw59 It actually lasts longer and stays more fresh than pasteurized milk. I've witnessed the phenomena.

  • @NyssaMysteria
    @NyssaMysteria Рік тому +171

    This is one of my driving reasons why I started my own garden, I know exactly what I'm getting and that my produce will *actually* be organic. It takes a lot of work, but being self sufficient is so worth it in this world that was set up for us to fail.

    • @FutureProofTV
      @FutureProofTV  Рік тому +19

      Yeah the garden is the only place where you know exactly what’s going in and out! Local farmers are your next best bet.

    • @pauljjalix7400
      @pauljjalix7400 3 місяці тому

      Metoo

  • @violetviolet888
    @violetviolet888 Рік тому +378

    11:30 My partner is a Certified Organic Farm Advisor and has been a Certified Organic Farm Inspector. The difference in so-called "pesticide" use is that conventional pesticides can last in the environment (like soil or your body) for years, decades or centuries (very long half-lifes). *Organic* management uses things like hydrogen peroxide which is not harmful to the environment and only lasts long enough for treatment which is many cases is a few hours or days-not years because they are not long lasting synthetic pesticides. This is an incredibly significant distinction that is almost NEVER talked about all these types of videos (and this video trivializes the difference). I don't see anything in this video interviewing the NOSB the (National Organic Standards Board) a Federal Advisory Board or OMRI the (Organic Materials Review Institute) which assures the suitability of products for certified organic production, handling, and processing. Rarely do they state that is is *illegal* for the USDA Organic label to be used on a product unless it has been certified. This video is as incomplete as the majority of content that _attempts_ to explain these topics.
    Organic Certification is time consuming and extremely expensive for organic farmers. The seeds they use, the cardboard boxes they use for transport all have to be pesticide free. (Conventional boxes are treated with pesticides.) Even the vehicles they use must never have had conventional produce with pesticides in the vehicle.The paperwork they have to go through is enormous. Conventional Pesticides eaten daily and chronically do not allow your body's systems to function properly.
    "Big Ag" (conventional ag) RUNS this country, they have lobbyists that were the top executives at Monsanto and went on to work for the USDA - a revolving door which you can look up. No one can touch them. They have the money and resources to create misinformation and doubt which is enough to affect consumer opinion. These are people literally at the top of the food chain-running the food chain to keep themselves in power in the name of profit at the expense of human health.
    Organic Farmers do it because they believe in it, not because any of them are getting rich. It's extremely hard work, more labor than conventional farming. It's one of the most labor intensive jobs you could work ever in.
    If you really want to learn about what will lead to a healthy body look up videos with *Dr. William Li* who works with NASA astronauts and helped get his own mother with cancer into remission, he even has a "Masterclass" series. Organic food is a large component of what enables your body to function as it should. Best case scenario: Grow your own food without pesticides. Did you know that plants that have been eaten by pests are actually *healthier* than conventional perfect looking produce? The plants' stress response initiates an increase in antioxidant compounds prior to harvest. Look up the study: Luis Cisneros-Zevallos, a horticulture and food scientist at Texas A&M University AgriLife Research, DOI: 10.1038/s41598-019-55033-w

    • @cosmicheartseed
      @cosmicheartseed Рік тому +11

      👏👏👏

    • @FutureProofTV
      @FutureProofTV  Рік тому +79

      Thanks for sharing your wisdom on this! it's a MASSIVE subject which we really only hoped to open up the conversation on. There's a million other things that could/need to be said so thanks for leaving this comment here. 👍🏻

    • @alexanderm7055
      @alexanderm7055 Рік тому +16

      I appreciate this comment and will be looking up Dr. William Li. I'm trying to eat more organic food and do more research so this comment has taught me more than google so far!

    • @Euthafro
      @Euthafro Рік тому +4

      The propaganda bots are at it again

    • @violetviolet888
      @violetviolet888 Рік тому +20

      @@Euthafro Not in this conversation.

  • @kr_101
    @kr_101 Рік тому +40

    I'm a food scientist working in the meat industry, and people can't even imagine what it's like behind the scenes. But also, we've improved exponentially over the last 100 years in the US! It's a tricky business because consumers want wholesome, natural food but have come to expect the taste and shelf-life of processed products.
    One thing we talked a lot about in university was organic food since it's a hot topic. Generally, the sentiment is that organic fruits/veggies may be marginally better for you. But being organic doesn't inherently make something healthy

    • @sourdoughsavant22
      @sourdoughsavant22 Рік тому +8

      Sad that so many people prefer the processed taste. I have a coworker who is grossed out by the homegrown eggs that another coworker sells because they "seem too fresh" like what?? I get that's how we were raised but I just would hope that we have basic instinct to know better 😅

    • @aWomanFreed
      @aWomanFreed Рік тому

      Food scientist? What’s that? Why do we need such a thing? Why can’t food just be natural? The fact that we educate and employ “scientists” to manipulate our food is ridiculous. Sorry u got duped…u should get out of that industry but I’ll bet your debt is so massive u have no choice but to stay and participate in the fraud. What a shame.

    • @itaintaproblem
      @itaintaproblem Рік тому +3

      What is it like behind the scenes? We need the deets

    • @kr_101
      @kr_101 Рік тому +1

      @@itaintaproblem what would you like to know? I currently work in a meat plant and I'll be going back to school for a master's.

    • @itaintaproblem
      @itaintaproblem Рік тому +2

      @@kr_101 just curious what you think would shock people who have never seen behind the scenes. I am very curious how the animals are treated before and even after they are slaughtered

  • @LaMasQueBrilla1680
    @LaMasQueBrilla1680 Рік тому +88

    Love the longer videos btw. My millennial mind never understood the Tiktok 3 minute format because I want more information not less! :)

    • @FutureProofTV
      @FutureProofTV  Рік тому +6

      Thanks for the feedback! We obviously prefer longer format too haha

    • @sleepypsy2650
      @sleepypsy2650 Рік тому +1

      @@FutureProofTV Maybe on Patron yall go in a little bit deeper on this stuff? I also really enjoy longer format videos but I know that the average person wont watch a super long one lol Thank yall for everything you do I really enjoy yall's content so much :D 💜

    • @ttopero
      @ttopero Рік тому

      @@FutureProofTV I like that you keep them under 20 minutes. However, many topics deserve follow up & deeper dives. This is an interesting example because it was a deeper dive & deserves much more. The comments are some great seeds of topics that we would appreciate.

    • @sarahnadeofpoetry
      @sarahnadeofpoetry 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@ttopero They could maybe section them off into series of 20 minute videos, and collect them in separate playlists for convenience. That would help keep people motivated, I think, even if they are interested but maybe don't have the time or patience for REALLY long videos straight up.

  • @wajlamo
    @wajlamo Рік тому +9

    You guys should look into permaculture food forests. The concept is you set up a garden like a forest. Once fully mature it behaves like a forest. You don't need to water it, pull weeds,etc. Your left with just pruning and picking.

  • @ByeByeButterfree
    @ByeByeButterfree Рік тому +9

    I actually have found that since visiting my local farmers market once a week I very scarcely go to the grocery store now and the food quality is a thousand percent better. I’ll never see eggs the same again! We are healthier and actually our money goes further at the farmers market and I never ever have sticker shock or regret as I approach the checkout. It’s all very personal. I know how the animals lived and were cared for. I know exactly which county my honey came from, or where the apples grew. Its actually pretty incredible! Hard to look at food or groceries the same way. You see the chicken packs at the store and all the labels are misleading and you wonder if the bird even lived a healthy life, or how old that milk on the shelf REALLY is or if it’s full of hormones. Local is the way to go! It may not always be “convenient” but it’s 1000% worth it.

  • @thomasmeldrum6238
    @thomasmeldrum6238 Рік тому +5

    There are claims made by some farmers, particularly in the “no till regenerative organic” movement that modern practices and chemicals actually hurt yields over time due to deterioration of soil and the crops’ ecosystems.
    Also, we can reduce our demand for crops by choosing foods that itself doesn’t demand so many of them and other resources.
    As for worker protections, that is a labor/class issue and we absolutely need to work on those as well.

  • @camilogonzalez-williamson6267
    @camilogonzalez-williamson6267 Рік тому +70

    My mom has a lot of allergies and can actually only eat the organically grown fruits and vegetables. Organic food is way more expensive so trust me this isn't a placebo, she gets a real reaction and we wish we could just buy "normal" food. So even though organic food does use pesticides there is actually a difference and it isn't as meaningless as is made out to be here.

    • @AskMiko
      @AskMiko Рік тому +15

      Some of what she’s consuming isn’t organic despite the label, therefore if she consumes fruits and veggies with the label, but aren’t organic and has no reaction…she’s allergic to something more specific than the overarching not organic claim. This is common with many people and it’s the life long effects of chemicals.

    • @FutureProofTV
      @FutureProofTV  Рік тому +7

      Yeah this happens with a whole bunch of organic products like wine too. Something in the conventional stuff just doesn’t work for them 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @scottdorsey8220
      @scottdorsey8220 Рік тому +4

      ​@@FutureProofTVWould love to know what the something is. Seems as if we're doomed because we really don't know what we're eating. Now PFAS chemicals are just about everything, so all the fuss about organic seems meaningless.

    • @Visionaryakafonzfoederl
      @Visionaryakafonzfoederl 11 місяців тому

      @@AskMikoexactly the point, she listen to a doctor who’s job is literally to keep you sick. Think about, if nobody was sick then how would they get paid, and the sneaky terms, continuous treatment, and cure, they don’t cure anything they treat it, and if they get rid of something, that’s because they have a good chance of reverting the existing threat. Ps your moms is stupid. She’s probably allergic to you.

    • @scaramouche8244
      @scaramouche8244 10 місяців тому +1

      @@FutureProofTV yes gmo

  • @stellayanda5987
    @stellayanda5987 Рік тому +30

    Agronomy student here, i will say the general attitude in the industry is to scof at people who care about organic vs not organic produce. We also scof at anyone who doesn’t thouroughly wash their produce lol. Between the two, your consumption of surface pesticides/herbicides will be about the same. The big difference is voting with your money to support smaller farmers or larger corps. Organic doesn’t mean a small farmer though, often a corp that is a collection of smaller farms, it’s like contract work. Going to a local grocery store chain or a market gives you the best chance that the produce is sourced from a local/small farm. Dairy is a whole other beast since usually the treatment facility contracts make sure distribution is done by a corp too. Meaning essentially if your milk is pasteurized, it’s a corp product no matter where the cows live😅

    • @violetviolet888
      @violetviolet888 Рік тому +5

      "Agronomy" teaching in this country is still biased. And your statement "your consumption of surface pesticides/herbicides will be about the same" is very misleading and I venture to say inaccurate. See my comment above.

    • @FutureProofTV
      @FutureProofTV  Рік тому +4

      Thanks for the comment. We agree with you that local small scale farmers are your best chance at some sustainable food

    • @stellayanda5987
      @stellayanda5987 Рік тому

      @@violetviolet888 of course it is, there’s hardly any programs to choose from for this kind of education? it has to be funded by somebody… and look you can break things down product by product(that’s not usually our job to be fair) but i made a generalization because it’s the attitude i was describing 😂 sorry not everyone can summarize a complex issue in a single statement well enough to please you

    • @violetviolet888
      @violetviolet888 Рік тому +5

      @@stellayanda5987 It's not about pleasing me. It's about misinformation or information that is extremely biased that has become status quo due to literally the most powerful industries in the world. This does not have anything to do with "that’s not usually our job to be fair" either. There are massive systems in place to keep those systems in place. While you're in class, be conscious about being an independent thinker and question "status quo". Talk to organic farmers, board member of OMRI and the NOSB. Talk to whistleblowers. They're out there and they can share with you the reality of these systems.

    • @stellayanda5987
      @stellayanda5987 Рік тому +1

      @@violetviolet888 yup, i make sure the research independently funded sources through reading lots of niche parts of our field, there is my independent thinking for you. I was literally just sharing the “inside” attitude i see around me, it doesn’t make me, or lots of the people around me complacent with how things are. Change is always going to be slow, and you need people on the inside of every single aspect of this industry to steer it slowly through time to become more and more environmentally conscious without giving every shareholder a heart attack. it’s hard work for everyone. And i haven’t met a single person who wants to keep things the “status quo” it’s about balance. money does matter and you can’t get much done without financial backing. I do love learning about and from lots of different kinds of people, but shutting down talking about the way things are discourages conversation. The way you put things makes people feel targeted and emotional, not a great way to spread a message that takes so many people’s livelihoods into consideration, right? I’m not in the fields doing this stuff, i’m in the labs, the offices, the presentations about new state regulations, that’s where my part is. It’s a lot of intake of information and not a lot of output. I don’t have much of a say in anything, but i do my part. Thanks.

  • @AlsanPine
    @AlsanPine Рік тому +8

    excellent work. this is exactly why i grow my own food on my 1 acre little orchard/garden/wildlife habitat purchased in the 80's and completely changed with mountains of aged arborist wood chips. there has not been any chemicals on this property since its purchase date. i grew up summers on my uncle's farm so i am not a stranger to real fresh food but honestly the fruit i produce here is at a different level. an oh by the way... sustainable organic farming that focuses on the soil does produce more that the industrial farming... yes in volume and taste and quality and nutrition. the problem is that most people want to start growing right away on a land with poor soil. it took nearly a decade for me to complete the soil transformation here. during that time i grew noting but green manure and wildlife food. you could do it faster but i am poor so i went with free stuff. the universal law that you can do things well, you can do things cheaply, you can do things quickly, choose any two applies here too. i will not compromise on quality. i am poor. so the quick thing had to go for me. if you have a lot of money, buy already aged compost and cover your land with a layer 2" deep in winter or early spring. seed it heavily with native wild life plants. let it do its thing for a year. then you can plant your fruit trees and setup your garden. it will cost you a bundle though 🙂

    • @magesalmanac6424
      @magesalmanac6424 Рік тому

      That sounds like the dream. I’m so happy for you but also extremely jealous 😅

    • @AlsanPine
      @AlsanPine Рік тому +2

      @@magesalmanac6424 it was a dream for decades... i just slowly made it happen as i was able. now it is a dream that is in the process of coming true as i am still working on it... and probably will until i drop dead in the compost hill and become part of my orchard. can't think of a better way to go 🙂

    • @cupidok2768
      @cupidok2768 7 місяців тому

      i thought the population is lowered after 2020 so many people died. so many jobs have no workers

  • @shibenikvaysyor8309
    @shibenikvaysyor8309 Рік тому +5

    Thank you for this information. I've known that workers are exposed to less herbicides etc in organic agriculture, but it's never occurred to me that they compensate for that by more physical labor. Something to keep in mind.

    • @BrendaMaggio-k6m
      @BrendaMaggio-k6m Рік тому

      Physical labor is not harmful and doesn't cause cancer like pesticides do. Exercise is shown to help prevent cancer. Isn't "work" moving the body, doing physical labor also "exercise"?
      'USA Today' had an article in 2004 about how Mexican-Americans had higher levels of pesticides in them, as compared to the rest of US citizens. Think that is the good and "right way" for things to be? They are the ones doing most of the farm labor and getting the pesticide exposures. That is why they are more than welcome to come here and do the work that Americans won't do! Something to keep in mind.

    • @GarlicClove-k3t
      @GarlicClove-k3t 2 місяці тому

      Physical labor is bad?

  • @advityarajsingh
    @advityarajsingh Рік тому +9

    We need more structural farming like regenerative agriculture and permaculture with the combination of latest technology and traditional practices

  • @Anxietyfuelledprincess
    @Anxietyfuelledprincess Рік тому +6

    As someone who worked in organic certification, a lot of companies can say they are organic by buying organic ingredients for the inspection but can order everything they need for mass productions as a conventional produce :/

    • @GarlicClove-k3t
      @GarlicClove-k3t 2 місяці тому

      Isn’t that illegal? + Which companies specifically?

  • @Nature_Ransacked
    @Nature_Ransacked Рік тому +13

    Having a Canadian version of this would be really interesting

  • @frenchiepowell
    @frenchiepowell Рік тому +11

    My wife and I moved to Puerto Rico to design ecological food producing systems. It is a bummer that organic doesn't always mean no sprays or biocides... But we're happy to produce food with no imported fertilizers, no sprays, and no irrigation in a semi arid area. It's feels good to be part of the solution!

  • @0631ix
    @0631ix 7 місяців тому +2

    Up until a few days ago I was a small organic fruit producer. Low standard of living in slow economy + inflation made the already expensive food even more expensive. On the other hand, certification rules are the same whether you have a small patch of land (like myself) or a massive micro-nation sized property, and the massive paperwork and costs that accompany it simply make no sense for a small producer, unless you have a knack for numbers, accounting and moving paperwork around the place. I love the physical aspect of the work, but if I knew that paperwork and fees were so intense as if I was running, dunno what, a clinic... I'd never bother with it. I've spent more energy on paperwork, taxes and whatnot than actually in the orchard. The only way organic produce (for small producers) makes sense, that I can think of, is if everyone would produce a little, but just for themselves - remove your flowers from flower pots and plant organic tomatoes and potatoes instead. Or if you have some kitchen garden, some spare land - plant a few cultures, make more stuff of each and then barter trade with others - I give you cherries, you give me goat cheese. The rest of the business is fine for big producers I guess, they can expend lawyers and accountants to deal with paperwork I guess. And all this mess exists because some food producers are too ignorant or too greedy that they're willing to spray land and produce with all kinds of poison, to make it look good on the shelves. If chemical food production faced same rigorous quality controls and procedures, there would be no need for organic production, but this is the world we live in - greed over short term profit outweighs investment in long term profit and betterment of the whole world.

  • @meslzr1
    @meslzr1 Рік тому +4

    In Argentina this is taught in schools. As you've said many products are organic yet it's too expensive to get the label. For example there are many brands of coffee and tea are organic, otherwise wouldn't be able to drink, yet getting the stamp is so hard and expensive. Also vegetables it's easier than a piece of meat, since they have to check the vegetables or grass those animals eat have to be organic then those animal have to be monitored with the vaccines etc

  • @Mannyxdaxgoat
    @Mannyxdaxgoat Рік тому +2

    Damn, that viewership location stat just made realize I’m the only one in Nigeria who watches this channel like everyday

  • @JustACitrus
    @JustACitrus Рік тому +31

    When people say they don't eat GMOs while eating their organic banana I just smile and nod.

    • @randalalansmith9883
      @randalalansmith9883 Рік тому +4

      And that's because some conversations classify unnatural selection as "genetic modification" to muddy the waters.
      Poodles: genetically-modified
      Aztec Maize: genetically-modified
      Checkmate, Hippies!

    • @rootmother
      @rootmother Рік тому +7

      the problem isn’t the genetic modification, they are modifying the genes so that the plants don’t die when doused with roundup and then dousing them

    • @GarlicClove-k3t
      @GarlicClove-k3t 2 місяці тому

      @@rootmotherThat is true with soybeans, corn, perhaps others, but that is not true for bananas like the OP implied. All the bananas we see are genetically identical “clones” which were bred using traditional plant breeding methods. For an interesting read, check out the history of bananas. The ones we eat/know are a different cultivar from the ones our great grandparents knew. The flavor of that old (and extinct) variety is supposedly closer to the flavor of banana candies than the modern banana. Yes I know there are other bananas grown. Lots of different kinds in certain parts of the world. But we rarely if ever see those produced commercially. For an even crazier story, read up on the history of the United Fruit Company. Pretty sickening stuff.

    • @GarlicClove-k3t
      @GarlicClove-k3t 2 місяці тому

      @@randalalansmith9883Very true!

  • @joynichols4002
    @joynichols4002 6 місяців тому +6

    What in this country isn’t a lie?

  • @jerrymiller9039
    @jerrymiller9039 Рік тому +10

    Old school TV dinners had aluminum trays and were heated in ovens. Microwave ovens did not exist back then

    • @zucchinigreen
      @zucchinigreen Рік тому +5

      I was surprised he didn't explain what TV watching was.
      The last time I talked to a young person about what TV shows they watch, they said they didn't watch TV only streaming.
      Me: *turns into a fossil*

  • @danieleatesia12
    @danieleatesia12 Рік тому +3

    I hope that you do a future proof video on cruises ships and their environmental impact 😅

  • @dannydaw59
    @dannydaw59 Рік тому +2

    I came across organic strawberries that were CHEAPER than the non organic Driscoli brand non organic strawberries. Same store, same day. That's extremely rare.😮

  • @jeannesutter4951
    @jeannesutter4951 Рік тому +12

    Earl Butz is often vilified, but what is also often missing from the narrative is that there was a major grain crop collapse across much of the world. People would very likely have gone hungry is Butz hadn’t forced farmers to ramp up production. We’ve had some rough consequences, but not all of his motives had ill intent.

    • @FutureProofTV
      @FutureProofTV  Рік тому +3

      Agreed! He made a choice and at the time it probably felt like the right one!

  • @pinopanicked
    @pinopanicked Рік тому +4

    once again an amazing video! you make me laugh continuously throughout your videos Levi
    will definitely be helping you over on patreon too!!

    • @deepmcs2669
      @deepmcs2669 Рік тому

      I got to interview Levi on my show. You should check it out. He's an amazing guy.

  • @idraote
    @idraote Рік тому +2

    I wouldn't feel as bad about food if corporations had ethics (I know, ah, ah, ah) and realised that there are products by which certain basic standards must be adhered to.
    Ok, now I'll go cry in a dark corner...

  • @kjmav10135
    @kjmav10135 3 місяці тому +1

    Over time, corporate farming destroys the soil and crop levels go down. So, yeah. Efficient for a few years, and then soil quality sinks and food quality goes down.

  • @krysc4d
    @krysc4d Рік тому +5

    The stats are harsh for EU viewers. I would love to see some info about European Organic Certificate!

    • @FutureProofTV
      @FutureProofTV  Рік тому

      We would love to but the video would be much longer! 😢

    • @krysc4d
      @krysc4d Рік тому

      @@FutureProofTV Never long enough! :)

  • @eritua433
    @eritua433 Рік тому +2

    thanks for calling me out for eating food infront of a screen as i’m eating food infront of a screen lol

  • @pinkroses135
    @pinkroses135 Рік тому +1

    I lean towards organic potatoes because the good ones per bag and shelf life tends to be longer 🤷‍♀️ Not sure what they're doing to them but it works for me

    • @GarlicClove-k3t
      @GarlicClove-k3t 2 місяці тому

      Interesting. Conventional are even sprayed with chems to stop the eyes from forming.

  • @XanderPie
    @XanderPie Рік тому +1

    You're so right!...kind of.
    So, YES, current "organic" practices are not practical and labor-intensive. HOWEVER there are many "conventional" producers that are turning to beyond organic practices (no-till, compost extract and tea distribution, cover crop usage, etc.) that are actually increasing yields from normal conventional yields with less effort and little to no inputs (fertilizer, pesticides). At the same time these efforts are actually not only drawing down more carbon but they are also increasing ground water stores.

  • @DrexylSpivey
    @DrexylSpivey 11 місяців тому

    Look into the ddt dumpsite off the coast of Southern California. Tens of thousands of barrels of ddt were found on the ocean floor

  • @kj3d812
    @kj3d812 5 місяців тому +1

    The real stress at the grocery store is seeing people in masks. 4:20 (not talking about 11:50, when someone's spraying pesticides) Some of us have severe mask trauma, long before "the recent event." Now that the "event" is over, masks are no longer needed (won't even get into the debate as to whether they ever were), and people who continue to wear them don't realize how they're re-traumatizing so many of us who have mask trauma.

  • @kingjay6401
    @kingjay6401 Рік тому +3

    I understood that the labels mean nothing a long time ago.

  • @Saturnchild56
    @Saturnchild56 Рік тому

    I just found this channel....what a treasure.

  • @orcapodstudio-retronaut
    @orcapodstudio-retronaut 3 місяці тому

    With more detail, even the loopholes were companies would avoid trouble with the states

  • @MrAndreiy1
    @MrAndreiy1 Рік тому +5

    Fun video as always, but it just seems a little surface-level to me and a missed opportunity to delve deeper into either the cult of organic food or what makes organic food different for the consumer. I loved the previous Future Proof video on 'How Whole Foods Changed Organic Food', which got into the producer-side of things and I think this video had the potential to go more into the consumer side. For example, it could have talked about *why* some people think Organic food is better (some important research could have been done on the big pesticides that the Organic label does ban and the reasons why they're banned; the foods where the pesticides make a big difference because traces are found more abundantly on some foods than others; what it doesn't mean; what are the issues with GMO foods, if any; any mention of research where they have actually found that certain organic foods are nutritionally better and the possible problems with this research, etc.; what does it mean for a food to be nutritionally better anyway?) and why it's good business for Big Business. Also, the video could have called out the tonnes of UA-cam food and lifestyle channels that thrive on the fear of pesticides and 'clean living' - FlavCity comes to mind in particular, which is informative about what the USDA Organic label actually means but then turns this into a really expensive lifestyle based on fearing all 'non-natural' things and flogging FlavCity products. This video could have been *so* much more.

    • @FutureProofTV
      @FutureProofTV  Рік тому +2

      There's a HUGE amount of subjects we could have covered in this video and it was already longer than our usual uploads. This was just an effort to open up the conversation on the subject for those who might just take the labels for granted.

    • @violetviolet888
      @violetviolet888 Рік тому +4

      @@FutureProofTV If you want to "open up the conversation" you need to facilitate and provide very specific spaces for that conversation to happen while including experts in the fields as active participants. General videos can add to confusion and mis-information without really talking to and involving the people stuck in working within the massive systems already in place. This video was just as generic as the most of the rest on this topic.
      Q. H. Flaccus: The reality is that if you eat strictly real organic food (not processed) you will find that you are far more satiated and end up spending LESS money. Try it for a month. You'll also feel better and find your body responds to not having to deal with synthetic pesticides and processed edible products.

  • @fourdayhomestead2839
    @fourdayhomestead2839 Рік тому

    The dream of being certified organic ended after the 3 year dog & pony show of certification education, transition & the binder of inputs kept up had to be tossed on a shelf (I went on a 1 hour off farm errand & came home to a family member sprinkling a pesticide on the cabbage).

  • @Strawation
    @Strawation Рік тому

    i look forward to a potential side channel where you guys go further into the topic with follow-ups to questions/points made in the comments. This video was so vague and surface-level that it only leaves us wanting more since the only message you conveyed was akin to "chocolatey/chocolate-flavored =/= chocolate" which is now common knowledge amongst most people

  • @joshuamarcano350
    @joshuamarcano350 10 місяців тому

    All of a sudden the government and food industry care about our health so now we have organic overload everywhere. I’m not sold on that.

  • @TheNiteNinja19
    @TheNiteNinja19 10 місяців тому

    The movie supersize me 2, goes into extreme detail about the food oligopoly, how free range is defined as well as organic. Pretty interesting.

  • @DrDisinfect_TheWorld
    @DrDisinfect_TheWorld Рік тому +1

    If you think about it, Americans over consume food in this century than in any other century prior. So you wouldn't consume "organic" foods as heavily anyway. You'd eat foods organically the same way we did before the industrialization of fast or convenience foods. We eat more convenience foods bc they're....convenient. Which means mass producing unhealthier foods. Shop local farmers and eat organic. It's only more expensive if it has to be housed on store shelves. Shopping my local farmer's market comes out way cheaper

  • @TheOnlyTaps
    @TheOnlyTaps 11 місяців тому

    One of the most frustrating things about trying to actually be more sustainable is how expensive it actually is to do that :( which is a shame coz one would think the cheapest products are the most natural but they tend to be the most processed or mass produced with shortcuts so the average household is rarely ever in a position to properly live "sustainably" whilst simultaneously making financially sustainable decisions

  • @sirenialpz
    @sirenialpz 7 місяців тому

    The price goes up just because of the label and its production costs. But! I know people who worked for TF, and the produce that was packed as organic was regular produce. So they were lying about the authenticity of the product and charging organic label price. SOOOOO! to be honest, I dont really believe that companies actually sell the real thing, some might do, some others definitely don't, and I can kind of understand why. But still, they shouldn't lie about it. So every time I buy organic labeled products, I only pray that is actually the real thing. 😅

  • @aayotechnology
    @aayotechnology Рік тому +4

    I’d love to shop more local small scale but it’s next to impossible asking the farmers what they put on their produce - plus it’s always changing. The organic label isn’t perfect but it’s better. At least I know which chemicals ARE being used. Perhaps we need a different label or modify the rules of the current one but that’s a discussion for another day.

  • @kathylewis7543
    @kathylewis7543 Рік тому

    Thank you! Crazy world we live in... just ordered a bread machine to do organic doughs for breads, pastas and jams and yogurts! I'm so through with it! Also making butter from heavy cream... just a start but have to start somewhere can't afford the kitchen aid plus all the extra gadgets to make pasta and stuff so next best thing!

  • @flaval24
    @flaval24 Рік тому +1

    😂😂😂
    Boy, you opened a can of worms with this video! (Organic ones at that. 😅)
    I've never seen so many folks so ticked off at you. You know what they say about the road to hell...

  • @themightiness
    @themightiness Рік тому

    There used to be an organic Rockstar and it was awesome. I haven't seen it in a few years but I liked it because it had about a third of the ingredients most energy drinks have.

  • @Ray_Vun
    @Ray_Vun Рік тому +3

    these type of labels are always confusing and end up feeling like they mean nothing. i bought some yogurts that "gluten free" on the packaging. i'd sure hope so, afaik dairy is gluten free in general. same with meat, i bought some of that sliced turkey ham thing for sandwiches, and it said "gluten free". once again, yeah duh, meat doesn't have gluten. and i've seen it done similarly to things that don't contain dairy but will say "dairy free". maybe it's some sort of mandatory labelling in the e.u, but it's just weird to add a label that literally has no meaning. if you didn't put "gluten free" on my yogurt, i'd still assume it to be gluten free, now instead i'm wondering if yogurts without that label are putting something in it that contains gluten.
    and tbh, if i see an "organic" label, i'm probably moving away from it. it feels more like an excuse to make things more expensive than what they should be

    • @tazboy1934
      @tazboy1934 Рік тому

      Some meat are injected with water and gluten

  • @BestOnThursdays
    @BestOnThursdays Рік тому +2

    Futurepoof: In the 1990's
    Me who was born in the 1990's: 🧓

    • @FutureProofTV
      @FutureProofTV  Рік тому +1

      90's kids are in the building! 🙋🏻‍♂️

  • @trevorfichtner3539
    @trevorfichtner3539 28 днів тому

    Organic growing can actually be significantly less labor than conventional agriculture when we assess the total nutrient pool and soil microbiology. when organic farming is done correctly it can grow massive yields with minimal to even no pest pressure. the idea that organic food costs more labor is just something big chem is pushing on media to push to the people to not prefer organic food, and agree with use of pesticides and fertilizers, which are destroying farmers, prices, food quality, air quality, and water usage (and quality in some cases) simultaneously. this labor factor does not have to be true at all, but it depends on the farmers practices and situation. organic farming done correctly with soil biology analysis can set a farm up to grow virtually all on its own with incredible yields.

  • @cuzinofie6
    @cuzinofie6 6 місяців тому

    THANK YOUUUUU for this information!! Exactly the questions ive wanted answered

  • @dh8203
    @dh8203 Рік тому

    Certified Organic does not mean you have a lower potential for pesticide exposure. It's just the types of chemicals that can be used that is restricted. Some organic pesticides are things like hydrogen peroxide, or caraway oil which is quite safe relatively speaking, others are chemicals like copper compounds and even petroleum oil which are "natural" but far less safe. When it comes to food and environmental safety industrial organic farming isn't any better than industrial conventional farming, so it takes more than just an Organic sticker to make a good choice on the produce you consume.

  • @JohnTovar-ks8dp
    @JohnTovar-ks8dp Рік тому

    Speaking of farmer's markets, maybe you could do a video on dyed flowers. They seem to be too, too common.

  • @WHALEx3
    @WHALEx3 Рік тому +1

    I didn’t want to click on the video because of the thumbnail: I regularly buy organic foods and I just wanted to avoid any kind of criticism.
    Glad I clicked though.

  • @pushslice
    @pushslice Рік тому

    In the coffee industry, and notoriously in Brazil, organic certification rules tend to discourage conversion of existing farms, and rather …promote start-up of new farms via use of deforestation.
    It’s pretty bad .

  • @brightphoebesays
    @brightphoebesays 7 місяців тому +1

    Always disappointed when I buy organic carrots that they are no tastier than conventional carrots, and nothing like home grown. : (

  • @orcapodstudio-retronaut
    @orcapodstudio-retronaut 3 місяці тому

    Have you talk about the controversy about sweatshops?

  • @powerhousebakeryatnutritio1311
    @powerhousebakeryatnutritio1311 10 місяців тому

    Super interesting! Thank you for such great information!!

  • @Bunny-pr8gw
    @Bunny-pr8gw Рік тому

    Imagine being named Butz instead of Butts. I'd legally change my name

  • @sandraebsen2208
    @sandraebsen2208 Рік тому

    Trader Joe's Jose beer is brewed with GMO corn. They have noon GMO certification

  • @HockenheimIsMyDaddy
    @HockenheimIsMyDaddy Рік тому

    It's amazing how degenerate the U.S. is with consumer laws, to the point that id you want to eat something that actually came from the ground you'd have to pay a ton extra, and here in a third world country, you just go to a "Feria", and just get a tomato or a lettuce that a farmer picked that same day, Worms and maggots included if you feel like it

  • @Dmitrioligy
    @Dmitrioligy Рік тому

    TL;DR
    Scalable vs Sustainable are extremely important to mention as different. Organic farms are not scale as you mentioned, but the alternative has what cost to the land/local ecosystems long-term?
    You mentioned organic farming isn't as easy to scale to meet the food demand?
    What about the impacts of non-organic pestisides and long term health of soil and ecological damage in the area/bodies of water near the farms?
    Your videos are awesome, but my minor critique is that organic farming vs non-organic doesn't address long term impact to soil quality and ecosystems/wildlife.
    Scalable and sustainable are two independent aspects, and scalable can be approached from the other end - food expiration dates (which are approximations, not hard science), food being thrown away at grocery stores, resturants and homes for many reasons. There is enough food to go around, it's about how we manage and handle food from farm to plate. Also a lot of food grown in the US - some 60-75%~ is used ONLY to feed lifestock - which is then used to feed humans.

  • @wesleykalor5267
    @wesleykalor5267 Рік тому

    Some foods are and some are not organic. Not all organic foods are healthy. Though some foods are created or produced organic, they contain components that are included, but are deceptive as to be worth eating because they're actually farmed unnaturally or metabolize dangerously. Oils often fall into this category. Seeds can be added to the list.

  • @XemidanHNoxja
    @XemidanHNoxja Рік тому +3

    ALL HAIL RAIL CARTS

  • @pinkroses135
    @pinkroses135 Рік тому

    5:41 im gonna go have icecream in my corvette

  • @jackjhmc820
    @jackjhmc820 Рік тому

    cheap solution is to get rid of pesticides on vegetables, so baking soda or sea shell powder from japanese designed to get rid of pesticides, as high pH get rid of most pesticides?

  • @zialuna
    @zialuna Рік тому

    Please research and make a video about regenerative agriculture. It is better for the environment, results in more nutrient-dense food, and can actually result in higher yields than conventional or organic. Thanks!

  • @grassru-ut
    @grassru-ut Рік тому

    We Indigenous people originally eat organic food without labels and certifications requirements.

  • @lisam8044
    @lisam8044 Рік тому

    Can u please do one on bamboo sheets and towels, they claim to be organic etc all the hype but I read the process of manufacturing uses more chemicals than cotton or linen sheets

  • @billylyf6995
    @billylyf6995 Рік тому

    Woohoo I'm part of the 3.3%🎉

  • @kaiseriv8483
    @kaiseriv8483 Рік тому +1

    Grow food in your entire front and back yard.

  • @A_Ducky
    @A_Ducky Рік тому +6

    I'm new to your channel so I don't know if you had already made a video on all the damage leaded gasoline created in the world. But if not, that's one topic I'd love to see you go in depth on. Thanks in advance, should you choose to ever do so.

    • @sbocaj22
      @sbocaj22 Рік тому +1

      Yes!!! This needs to be covered. My parents both grew up during times of high lead concentrations and they don’t believe me when I tell them that they were probably affected when they’re were younger.

    • @sebastianc.5825
      @sebastianc.5825 Рік тому +1

      you can find a great GREAT video on this over on the Veritasium channel. something about the man who caused the most deaths (the creator knew it was toxic, even suffering himself from the side effects, but kept lobying for it for money). super great video.

    • @A_Ducky
      @A_Ducky Рік тому +1

      ​@@sebastianc.5825
      Yeshhh, seen it. But maybe smaller creators will have a diff presentation, point of view, research, etc. And it's definitely a topic that's affected more people than some may be aware. I grew up in the 80s/90s Balkans and didn't know I was affected by it ... but I was. We all were, who are alive today. If you breathe air - that's enough to be affected by something that's "ended" decades ago.

    • @FutureProofTV
      @FutureProofTV  Рік тому +1

      That’s a juicy one! Thanks for the recommendation!

    • @A_Ducky
      @A_Ducky Рік тому

      ​@@FutureProofTV
      Grandma's decor is 👌
      Sending her a big hug!

  • @markbalogh9655
    @markbalogh9655 3 місяці тому

    so usda organic fruits and vegtables can still have chemicals pesticides in and on it???

  • @csroriginalmusic
    @csroriginalmusic Рік тому

    Can you do a video on Kathmandu because you have reviewed every other outdoors brand and Kathmandu is very popular in Australia and New Zealand cheers!

  • @taniamemori
    @taniamemori Рік тому

    How about Viberg boots? A Victoria BC company that's stood the test of time and makes some of the most sought after handmade boots at price that's not for the faint of wallet...

  • @drjekelmrhyde
    @drjekelmrhyde Рік тому +1

    In about 6 months, no one is going to willing to splurge on organic foods. SNAP only goes so far

  • @jeremyprovence4942
    @jeremyprovence4942 Рік тому

    Toxic residue chemistry in industry and agriculture is depleting resources poisoning the environment and harming the very land on which we depend. Organic ag has all of the answers to the environmental degradation that we are facing today in our food production system. Conventional ag does not yield higher per land unit, organic does.

  • @ireh379
    @ireh379 Рік тому

    I always appreciate you thoughts, however organic production is long term more productive than chemical agriculture. There’s several studies pointing towards this. Organic ag will normally loose productivity after conversion then rebound to greater output after the soil and systems become used to organic farming.
    Organic is not too far from chemical ag., to be able to feed the 10 billion people in the near future. The reason why chemical agriculture is so efficient today is bc of the billions of R&D. If we focused on producing more effective organic additions there wouldn’t be to many differences on farms outputs.
    Soil health is also one of the most important factors in how organic farming can reduce the impact of agriculture on the climate. The soils of healthy, long term organic farms are often carbon sinks because of the biodiversity of their soils.
    Organic can be the same scale as conventional. Organic will always be more sustainable than conventional.

  • @BigBellyEd
    @BigBellyEd Рік тому +2

    Every non-native englisch speaker is wondering why the term organic is used. Everything that’s grown is organic.

    • @Ray_Vun
      @Ray_Vun Рік тому

      yeah. if i see like a package of strawberries that says organic, but thought process is that there's lab grown strawberries out there, and i'm left wondering if they're cheaper than the stuff that has the organic label

  • @RIZFERD
    @RIZFERD 4 місяці тому

    Original Brands Are Using Artificial Ingredients ???
    Yes, it's the bitter truth.

  • @REDCLAYHOMESTEAD
    @REDCLAYHOMESTEAD Рік тому

    Ill be looking for that like. Hope your road trip is going great.

  • @roraflora4255
    @roraflora4255 Рік тому

    Love the Undertale sound effect at 0:26

  • @livenandlove1980
    @livenandlove1980 Рік тому

    Thank you for talking about farmworkers!

  • @darrell293
    @darrell293 Рік тому

    Cut back on population. That way the farmers will have to cut back on the insect spray, especially getting stuff overseas that sucks.

  • @simongrushka983
    @simongrushka983 Рік тому +4

    the 'natural pesticides' has not been decided to be 'less bad'. being natural vs synthetic tells you nothing about the 'badness' of it; most 'natural' pesticides are in fact, generally speaking, more broadly toxic (not only for the beings it's used against, but in general).

    • @isaactan2001
      @isaactan2001 Рік тому +1

      Yes, and the pesticide residue is just nearly the same, that is why i still prefer conventional food

  • @m3ducraft
    @m3ducraft Рік тому +2

    If you get stressed by doing the groceries you have a problem. The only thing that stresses me is the increase of pries and my salary not increasing.

    • @AskMiko
      @AskMiko Рік тому

      The stress of the environment is more the point, not the task. No different than people being stressed by large crowds. Doesn’t mean they have an issue with being indoors or outdoors.

  • @xpuffystaticx
    @xpuffystaticx Рік тому

    Can you talk about lab grown meat? Saw this piece, saying it's worse for the environment than raising cows.

  • @babydii3487
    @babydii3487 6 місяців тому +1

    It's only organic if you grow it yourself

  • @MatthewJBD
    @MatthewJBD Рік тому

    The blue thumbnail made me expect this to be a Future Proof Health video

  • @ChefJollyRoger
    @ChefJollyRoger Рік тому +1

    Video starts 04:30

  • @jillphilips3788
    @jillphilips3788 Рік тому

    Please
    Share
    In America
    Renters Not Aloud to plant on the Land😳😳😳😳😳😳😳

  • @ellieevans3977
    @ellieevans3977 Рік тому

    CAN YOU MAKE A VIDEO ABOUT IF BUYING GOLD TO FIGHT INFLATION IS LEGIT BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE ITS NOT

  • @hefoxed
    @hefoxed Рік тому

    Issue with pesticides on organic food: makes getting food for pet insects harder :/

  • @lilmsgs
    @lilmsgs Рік тому +2

    Why would you assume we hate history?

  • @johnyoung1601
    @johnyoung1601 Рік тому

    Another suggestion if you want to eat better, safer, tastier food: Help control the human population (namely, have fewer children, promote birth control).

  • @hagbard72
    @hagbard72 6 місяців тому

    Farmers Market....😂. You know, lot of those "farmers" get their stuff from the same place the grocery stores do.

  • @SunKissedPeach
    @SunKissedPeach Рік тому

    2:50 maybe thats someone requesting you trying to imitate Owen Wilson's "wow"

  • @stringlarson1247
    @stringlarson1247 Рік тому

    What really kills me is looking at labels of OF products is seeing 'organic sugar'. It's still fekn SUGAR.