Against the Proliferation of Sofa Ownership and Use
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- Опубліковано 4 сер 2024
- In this video essay, I explore many of the negative attributes of sofas.
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This video has changed my life!
Last week I watched this video and decided enough was enough. I took my sofa with attached chaise lounge (a clever combination that promotes further binding and destruction to the body), and disassembled it as recommended by the video. I have no use for the material as I already have plenty of chairs, so I sold it all! I was able to make $3.57 in total. Do you know what I did with my earnings? I immediately bought a coffee, which gave me the energy I needed to perform at a high efficiency throughout the rest of the day. That purchase, to me, acted as validation that this video and my new life path was leading me to a future of energy, focus, and purpose.
Again, thank you for this video!
Is it seeious or just trolling? In any case an inspireing story
What a treasure chest of a comment
It's trolling. Not meant to be taken seriously.
What a comment xD
@@liztxori isn't true inspiration the biggest troll of all
Having guests over and forcing them to stand in the living room and watch this video so they know why there’s no couch
😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂
Be like the middle easterners and sit on the carpet floor
I mean, you could, but there's no reason to not have the suggested alternative seating arrangements; chairs, bean-bags, and stools.
You can level up by having this on hand to put in your tv once they arrive
I watched this on my sofa just to spite you
i watched this on my sofa, because i got a sofa. 2 months ago i was sitting on the floor, but look at me now. i am sofa king!
I was literally doing what the video said, I have an empty room with a computer, a desk, a TV and a 6-axis office chair. Now I'll buy a sofa out of spite.
@intellectually_lazy sofa king we tod Ed?
@@intellectually_lazySo fucking what?
Me being sofa pilled and relaxxmaxing on my superior soft furniture article
I like to imagine that this was made to prove to a philosophy professor that anything can be debated.
for your first assignment, class, please create a video presentation with both false premises and invalid reasoning
I had a philosophy teacher in my last year in high school (in Spain, i was 17) that, for our last assignment, had us explain AND defend the posture of the most outrageous villain (no matter the media) we knew... Or the most stupid point of view we could construct.
I did it about why sweeping floors is detrimental to our existence as human beings. And yes, everyone channeled their nitpickiest most obtuse self when they had to defend their stuff.
Those were two glorious last weeks for sure.
@@KasaresStern That sounds amazing lol. Looks like you had a great teacher.
@@KasaresStern I wish they taught philosophy classes in the US when I was in high school
Pretty sure this how flat earth movement started out, look at it now...
yeah sure I'll incorporate this into my worldview
the existensial fear of either being easily swayed by video essays or the youtube algorithm being that good at only showing me videos I already agreed with
The spirit of the masses is generally feminine...
yall should look into why barefoot shoes are better than wearing mattresses under your feet. and why laying on your bones instead of your muscles will enhance your sleep
this is the funniest answer to random ideologies that pop up on recommended
HA
I find myself being radicalized
Just wait for the algorithm flooding you with massive amounts of anti-sofa propaganda from a deep community you had no idea existed.
first time?
Good
Same
@@thomas.thomasactually no, it just keeps happening
how did I get here
I sold my sofa shares
and you may ask yourself...
I think we all know
Requiring some kind of penance as am I.
Google knows you’re intensely quirky and weird. Sorry to inform you. But obviously I’m here too, so…
I love how half the comments are about the video being a glorious parody of overly pretentious video essays, and the other half are people who already disliked sofas saying what a great video essay it was. A perfect microcosm of modern parody.
the best satire should be indistinguishable from the real thing
It's not parody, it's post-irony. Both a joke and serious at the same time.
@@rpenm it's when you want to be serious but you think others won't take you seriously so you pretend to be joking, you actually also use jokes. But all just to convey your originally serious message
lol.... yeah, I'm in the latter group of people. I'm loving this video, but I've been a proponent of floor sitting for a while.
Poe's Law
I think this is the first time I've seen someone get possessed by a victorian moral panic editorial on youtube
This was pedantic and insufferable, and I loved it
Thank you very much
Hmm yes, shallow and pedantic
This is a truly a work of art
You would get on really well with my mother in law. She refuses to have a sofa and has antique Chinese wooden seating so that no one feels comfortable enough in her home to overstay their welcome.
She sounds based. Would take a politely short visit to her home.
@@Sven-cs2ex True
Let’s hope you’re not the one inheriting them
Brilliant.
@@RingoBunsThey might be pretty valuable!
Thanks I was lacking an opinion on this, and being the first one to give me one, I will consider it as absolute.
Good to hear
I wanted one of two things when I clicked this. I wanted either a skilled professional, maybe an interior designer or furniture maker or some kind of engineer, who had a grievance against sofas born of esoteric knowledge that may prove helpful or educational or else I wanted an insane madman with a strong opposition to something totally innocuous for no discernible reason.
Didn't disappoint.
truly a master of his craft
Your arguments were too convincing and you waited too late into the video to say "don't burn your sofa". The fire department is mad at me now.
Oh no! I'll have to put a disclaimer at the start of the next video
I really enjoyed the subtle humor sprinkled throughout. The oddly long clip of a woman prancing through a gas station, the snowboarder with a cat, the idea that a lover could draw the line at cuddling on a bench, is incredible.
Glad you enjoyed haha
The woman in the gas station absolutely killed me! 🤣
The B reel in this video is one of the best things I’ve ever seen. 90% of my audible guffaws came from b reel. I’ve never seen such subtle absurdity in my life
I asked my spouse if they would love me if we could only hold each other in a seated position, if were using relatively firm surfaces, such as a floor, or a wooden bench, excluding of course, the use of a bed.... and they were deeply concerned.
I mean, without getting too risqué in description... The floor isn't the worst place for such activities....
it was then that they realized that the whole worm debacle wasn't all that bad
@@CaedenVonly watched first 30 seconds so far therefore i must conclude the thesis of the video is that couches are bad for boning
I want this to be the new "would you love me if I was a worm" meme
@@katethegoat7507 yes. It is at the same time way more sane and way more insane
Excessive lounging leads to the destruction of a person's health and motivation, and hence lifespan and total net productivity. Because of this, it is of the utmost importance to American furnituremakers to export the plushest sofas and encourage their adoption in the living rooms of our civilization's enemies. We must not fall behind on the sloth curve.
Sofas should never be used as a weapon
@@natedansereau For tax purposes, the exports would be classed as "humanitarian aid".
Sloth curve 😂😂😂😂
@@googiegress7459 oh my gods lol
Mr. President, We Must Not Allow A Sofa Gap!
I cant believe this thesis did not mention the great benefits of Tatami mats and Japanese stlye mattresses, which when combined not only provides a wonderful shock absorbant flooring material fit for all manner of activities, but provides a very versatile, clean, and hypoallergenic approach to seating and sleeping arrangements, as the breathable combination and simple materials wicks away excess moisture and is incredibly easy to clean.
(It is certainly possible... that I did very little research)
I sleep on one because I am paranoid of rolling out of bed after my ex's mom did and *dislocated her shoulder*, ffs. Say what you like, but that's living too fast for my taste. Anyway, the mat is amazing. Mobile, unobtrusive, and easy to clean, which minimizes dust allergy symptoms at night for bonus points!
Shock absorbant, you say
oh you mean the bedding you have to hang up to drive every morning to avoid mold? yeah sounds sooo much more convenient
@@kefkjahow wet is your bedroom?
"3 or 12 or more disassociated family members" is actually insanely good writing lmao
I know it's meant to be a joke, but I am now seriously considering interior design entirely excluding sofas.
Historical japanese ID is a prime example of that, they have a whole range of furniture very close to the ground: tatami, futon, zaisu, kotatsu, etc
How do you know its a joke haha
same though. like why did this work on me
Tatami living is genuinely great. Chairs and benches in hallways. Floors and mats in rooms that become beds for sleeping. Japanese is superior in so many ways to the west's weird capitalistic hell
@@thelemon5069 in that respect, yes. But don't forget the Japanese are living their own flavour of capitalistic hell.
@thelemon5069 you do know Japan is... like, comically corporate-controlled
This video essay reminds me of "A Pattern Language", specifically pattern 251: Different Chairs. It seems the authors would agree with your premise, simply by their opening sentence: "People are different sizes; they sit in different ways." They explain that variety in seating creates an atmosphere that supports rich experience. They do not discuss sofas, but it seems to me that a sofa actively removes variety from the seating options in a space, as the 2 or 3 or more seating positions will be indistinguishable from each other in most aspects. Additionally, the seats in a sofa are permanently locked into the same relative positions - they cannot be adjusted to form a more or less intimate arrangement. These shortcomings reveal that the sofa is far less versatile than traditionally advertised.
My god, you’ve done it. This is the purest concentration of youtube algorithm I’ve ever seen.
As someone who struggles to stand up off the floor, I was originally sceptical. But knowing that I can replace my sofa with three computer chairs and a sleeping bag is a suitable accomodation to my needs and I shall be glad of the extra space generated (I assume).
Nice
this video hacked the "give the benefit of the doubt" part of my brain into taking it seriously for far too long, and that's too subtle a humor for my liking
Me too. There's so many dumbos on the internet that I always assume they really are that stupid until proven otherwise.
"We've been tricked, we've been backstabbed, and we've been quite possibly: bamboozled!"
This video may be humorous but my family did get rid of our sofa. About a year ago we needed to replace our sofa and love seat combo. While discussing what we would do, I asked my wife why we needed a sofa at all.
I pointed out that we never used it as a place to sleep or even lay down really. Rarely did more than one person use it at a time, as most of the time people don't want to sit that close together, so it took up a lot of space while not providing the promised seating. They are also big and heavy, making them difficult to move, and limit the room arrangement possibilities especially in smaller or oddly shaped spaces.
After a bit of debate we decided to replace the sofa and loveseat with three chairs, and we couldn't be happier with that decision. We actually use the space more now. The sofa/loveseat setup was so dysfunctional for us, that we didn't even realize how much we were unconsciously opting to use the connected dining space to sit and chat instead of the living space. The seating arrangement we have now just fits us better.
While a sofa is a good choice for some, I think too many people get one just because it's what you do. The next time you're getting furniture, give it some thought. Think about how your furniture and space is utilized. If you're not sure, find some inexpensive chairs to use as a proof-of-concept before you go all in. Also, if you want a sofa just as an emergency sleeping spot, they make chairs that can fold down into a bed too.
I was lucky to grow up in a house with a large living room with wall-to-wall carpet. We always had a sofa and a loveseat, but there was always so much empty space on the floor that I usually found myself there, sprawled out on a pillow or two, watching TV, reading, or playing my gameboy. Even now, as an adult, I still gravitate to the floor when I visit my parent’s house.
I know this is satrie… to some degree? Maybe Nate is really being serious? Regardless, he has helped me to connect with the core of my most repressed, base desires. My sofa’s days are numbered.
I was thinking the same way as far as sitting to close to each other. A sofa with room for 3 people to sit, usually only has two people on it, either two people cuddling together, or two people five feet apart cuz they're not gay.
The fact that "davenport" was once a name for the "couch" is enough to give anyone pause before purchasing such a piece of furniture.
I feel exponentially less insane after watching this, there is definitely a healthy dose of somewhat exaggerated humor throughout this but the points are what I have been arguing for years. I absolutely love this to pieces and plan on writing a citation riddled expansion of this concept as my main paper for a writing and rhetoric course I am participating in over the next few months
Glad to hear it haha
Please share it with us!!
yeah dude share your paper!! I wanna cite it LOL
Things I love about this video:
1) The stock footage is perfect.
2) Each point is clearly delineated and leaves little to no room for rebuttal-the man is clearly on to something.
3) When he suggests three stools, the images of three stools are centered. When he says, "or four," the fourth stool is added, but it's cut off. A similar situation occurs again with images of one (or two) cots.
4) The script is courteous, professional, and academic.
5) He's completely serious about this.
6) He's right.
2) is total horseshit
I've no idea why this was recommended to me, but it is absolutely the best thing to happen to me all week, and it is only Monday.
this is genuinely the type of thing i think about. i'm not joking. it's like someone recorded my inner monologue. to feel so seen and understood by another person without them knowing of your existence is both euphoric and terrifying.
I love that the beautiful intro shots of geese walking around had nothing to do with the tipic.
It has everything to do with the topic. These happy, thriving geese have experienced a rich and sofaless life.
honk
Barely a minute in and I already agree with you. Nearly every night my couch pulls me into a false sense of security with its comfort until I invariably end up falling asleep for several hours, from which I wake up with back pain and a sense of wakefulness despite it being 2:30 in the morning. I consciously know this will happen, yet every night I heed sirens song of the elongated loveseat adjacent to my living room television. It’s a vicious cycle I fear I may never break from.
you really captured that meandering, pseudo-intellectual video essay vibe, I can feel my blood boiling already and I'm only 3 minutes in, very good job
Phenomenal writing and editing. I feel blessed by the algorithm today
Glad you liked it
I will love and cherish this video and send it to anyone who mentions buying a new sofa to me.
im buying a fallen tree for my living room
old people like recliners. they never get out that recliner, where they can watch 22 hours of local news, for the weather, every day
This shit written like an IB extended essay 😭
The neon light chapter card with ridiculously upbeat music out of nowhere got me good.
The whole thing is hilarious, mind you. Thank you very much!
my grandpa who only sat on a plain wooden kitchen chair for 40 years and gave himself hemorrhoids would be a big fan of this proposal
Additionally, sofas are made most of the time of different materials, such as wood, leather, pillows, etc. Each one of these has to be cleaned regularly or the room in which the sofa is will stink. This will mean that, if you have a couch, you will have to invest money, valuable time, and resources, in the process of "the cleaning". Compared with 3 regular chairs, the overall costs are reduced by a lot.
However, one thing I find a little disconfirming about not having sofas, is that the alternatives tend to show a really minimalistic aesthetic; which represents the loss of artistic values of each person. I understand that currently, many people tend to have minimalistic couches (awful), but some prefer more personalized ones. And regular chairs can't be as artistic or "antiminimalistic" as a sofa can.
The last statement is based on a personal view, i see if not everyone agrees with it.
Great video essay
Those are some excellent points. Maintenance is an important consideration to be sure
get a settee
You’ve gotta be one nasty mofo to require that much cleaning to where it’s a burden. Or just get a non breathable upholstery so only the surface needs cleaning…
@@X11CHASE To be fair to them climate makes a difference and so can having kids or pets
A 15 minute video about how couches are bad actually with under 1k views from a channel with under 2k subscribers! I’m so in!
13 days later, 13k views
12 days after @reed6514’s comment, 58k views and 2.64k subs
This is so unhinged I love it
'many people's husbands' lmao
I appreciate the descriptive alternative to the use of the word 'man'
(Or for that matter, simply saying 'many people')
You forgot the mention the insufferable inconvenience brought upon each member of any arrangement of friends every time one of them insists on substituting their landlord with another and thus changing their habitat. The pain which in induced during the transportation of one of these monstrosities is just otherworldly.
I fail to comprehend the amount of once close and intimate friendships which were obliterated but such circumstances, leading to a significantly increased risk of chronic loneliness.
bro's whole argument is defeated by fainting couches. great work tho man! shocked you don't have more subscribers. nice editing and arguments
Not really. Those mainly existed because women weren't listened to by medical professionals and likely suffered from dysautonomia
@@thelemon5069 Also if it was still considered commonplace to faint from intense emotion some of us (me included tbh) would either pretend for the drama or become so worried by the idea that we genuinely think we’re about to faint. I have narcolepsy and while it doesn’t cause fainting I do occasionally collapse from intense emotion
Oh, no-- this is the funniest video I've ever seen. I especially like the "solution" of the room crammed full of individual chairs. I myself have been trapped by an unrelenting sofa for the past four years. I thank you for your efforts to warn others.
Anytime
way ahead of you, I repurposed the sofa's i acquired for free as storage units a long time ago. granted they aren't ideal storage units, but they were free. They merely look like sofas.
Very resourceful
I think you're onto something, lawns are already on my list
I like lawns even less than sofas
I wanted to see if this was satire or genuine criticism. After watching, I still don’t know, but I did enjoy myself. 11/10.
i find myself agreeing with you. if i were to be seen while reclining daintily on my sofa, i should be quite embarrassed and ashamed in myself. i am currently seeking to remedy this situation and will perhaps borrow your idea of using stools and rocking chairs instead of the sofa.
perhaps even conjoining three stools togther with a bound leather skin, so as to allow for a more intimate closeness for small gatherings
I live in a dorm that has a balcony. Ever since I lived here, there has been a couch on the balcony, but my janitor said it needs to be removed. Today is the day it got removed, and this video popped up for me. Now, I can really enjoy a couchless life
2:04 I love how the positioning of the turkeys makes it look like there's gonna be a third that's so clever 😂
One more radical idea to hopelessly defend in front of my friends whenever the topic comes up at some point in our lives
Listen, I'm chronically online, it's not easy to catch my attention and keep it and then even actually give me dopamine. But you did. I had almost surrendered to the thought that the half of yet another meal I'll spend frustratingly looking for a video to watch while eating. I don't remember the last time I was this content with a video while eating. This was beautiful. Everything about it.
As a long-time floor enjoyer, I've found couches to be over rated for years. They're bulky and a pain to clean. The replacement couch I've gotten a while back isn't even comfortable, even though it was an "upgrade" because it has a recliner. I'd rather sit by a kotatsu in my living room honestly.
I wish there was a section in this video about alternative ways of hanging out indoors that have been figured out by humanity across time and around the world. Kotatsus are one hell of an option-but I’m pretty sure that it would people-trap me all the same XD I would stash food and entertainment right next to the table, and only get up to go to the loo!
I need to take a moment to say, whilst the video is wonderful in its spoken argument: your visuals are outstanding.
I laughed hard at the Sim surrounded by chairs, love that you made that effort.
Also, to answer your question at 4:03, y = 9
Working:
3y - 6 = 2y + 3
3y = 2y + 3 + 6
3y = 2y + 9
3y - 2y = 9
y = 9
Sent from my upright single occupancy chair with no arm rests
That is amazing.
I hate the couch. Managed to get rid of it and my wife is now fully on board with this lifestyle.
This was years ago, we are both fitter and stronger than we ever were. We got rid of the tv too.
I love it
Omggg I know this isn’t the point but when I got my own apartment for the first time I decided not to get a sofa because I was tired of the most random people sleeping on my family’s couch. I have a kotatsu with a few large floor cushions and I love it. I keep a secret futon in a closet in case I ever do have a guest I want to stay over
I like the way you think
I've been running out of discussion topics to irritate my family with - thanks for coming to the rescue!
I was confused what the title meant. The geese intrigued me so I watched. Very good and entertaining, I’m happy I came across this video.
I feel like your next video will be calling for people to rise up against the bourgeoisie and seize the means of production.
My recommendations feed is becoming more and more radical with each day. Yesterday I learned that my head was literally screwed on backwards.
I think i need a link for that video lol
Brilliant. I lost it when the word "malarkey" made that reclining fellow spring awake.
The humor of this video is peak and I was inclined to lean back into my sofa and subscribe instantly.
Don't you mean "reclined"?
Thanksgiving, Christmas, and that’s it.
Bravo good sir
Thank you
This feels like it was written by the guy who wrote utopia. It's amazing
"If we must assume a submissive and defeated posture"
As a tall person, I found particular amusement in your illustrative example of how horizontally insufficient sofas are for sleeping. Thank you for putting out this important message and fighting the good fight. 12:08
Great video. Never buying a sofa until ur refuted. Love you. Have a wonderful day.
"Would you still love me if we could only hold each other in a seated position, if we were using relatively firm surfaces, such as a floor, or a wooden bench, excluding of course, the use of a bed?" is the man's equivalent of "Would you still love me if I was a worm?"
The craziest thing about this essay is that I agree with every point and the thesis itself.
Groundbreaking
I was questioning if setting a sofa in my room was a good move... It's gotta go. Thank you 👍🏻
I'm here for this. I've been preaching against sofas from the moment I could think for myself (2006). Thanks for the knowledge that I have never been alone.
This is THE embodiment of “I spent three years doing a humanities degree. You bet your ass I’m gonna use it.”
Before i watched this video, i was a firm Sofa hater, and thought this video would re-affirm my pre-existing beliefs.
After watching the video, the arguments made in the video towards the propositions made were not only insufficient to counter the propositions, but the propositions actually showed me the versatility of the Sofa, converting me strongly in favour of Sofas.
I must applaud the creator if this was their schema from the beginning.
Liked and subscribed
This is the perfect youtube content for me and I cannot believe I am just seeing it.
You forgot to mention how sofas steal your money, goldfish, and remotes and yet we still welcome them into our homes with open arms
I scrapped my sofa and will never look back. You have changed my life.
My cat loves the sofa tho, so there's nothing I can do because I don’t have the heart to upset her.
I am thoroughly baffled, thank you for rattling my worldview.
I clicked on it because my philosophy is against a sofa in my home.
This was ridiculous.
Best video essay in a long ass time.
Thanks man 😂.
That room full of a bunch of stools, chairs, and cushions looks like pure chaos… I love it
Although I feel like I can't agree with many of the points being made in this video, I do find this proposition very interesting to ponder on and question the customs we have all unconsciously incorporated. When I build my own home I'll definitely consider more intentionally the functionality and need of a sofa.
Really cool to hear
Instructions unclear, I have upholstered my living room floor
That should do the trick
@@natedansereau
Your video has made my year, my faith in humanity has become reestablished, and the comments are making my day too :)
As someone who has spent years of my life sleeping on the couch, from my time in grade school and high school up through my college years, I can tell you that they can be comfortable and many can be incredibly uncomfortable. Sectional couches do not have the severe height restrictions of more traditional sofas, and the distance from arm rests to arm rest is perhaps the biggest determiner of comfort. Couches with buttons in the seat can become uncomfortable and couches with harsh textures or horrible for laying your face or other bare skin on if you lack a pillow.
Unequivocally I can say I have never been on a comfortable pullout couch. The cushions you can fit in the couch cannot counteract the lack of support aside from the lateral bars and the uncomfortable pressure.
this was funny enough for me to send it to my family members but honest enough for me to consider disassembling my couch and selling it for parts
Bless the algorithm that brought me to this wonderful video!!! 🙏🏽
this really is the era of diss tracks
& idk, I think sofas are gonna be the only ones beating the allegations out here
Sometimes you click on a video with little to no context and have instant regret.
But you, kind sir, are of the highest caliber of moral fiber and sound reasoning! I'm completely convinced that I just need to buy a recliner for myself, and at most, one of those park benches with the anti-homeless attachments on them. My extended family is not homeless, so surely such devices should have little to no effect on them!
This may be my favorite video on UA-cam now. For the humor and the logic. 😂
I was definitely sitting cross legged on the ground as you told me it wasn’t undignified 😂
I have a chair, a bench, and rugs and cushions because I live alone, and would rather be adaptable 🕺
This is genuinely entertaining and very well done. I have no idea why youtube recommended your video, but I'm glad they did. I never thought a 14 minute video could make me rethink sofas...
Amazing. I havent had a couch in my lounge for years, despite my family's objections on the once a year visit that they make.
God bless the algorithm, this is pure gold. If you keep this up, you will be gigantic.
Video essays have gone too far
For real tho, nice video 😂
Your grasp of comedy is so incredibly impressive. Playing the straight man in constrast to the immensely comedic audio-visuals. Love this video, can't wait to revisit it. Major kudos, and I hope you have a good day as well
Have been thinking about this for over a year. And had the same arguments for and against keeping my sofá; an inherited midcentury piece of furniture.
I think you have helped me on the decision!
Thanks a lot!
i love the idea of a room, filled with rocking chairs, for social gatherings.
i just moved and live alone for the first time now and i deadass dont wanna buy a sofa and now by biases have been confirmed.