The problem with agents saying that if you get no response consider it a rejection is that you don't know if it's time to try another agent at the same agency.
Stephen King used to keep a spike that he tacked rejection letters on to. James Patterson was rejected by 31 publishers before he was published. Harry Potter was turned down by twenty publishers. Brandon Sanderson had written 12-13 novels before he was published. Just keep at it. Write for you. Write well. Write as best as you can. But write because you have a story that HAS to come out NO MATTER WHAT. It’s the only way to stay sane.
Traditional querying - Sucky but necessary? Why? To me it's a symptom of the broken-ness and arrogance. All I have encountered in my querying journey is polite rejections, boilerplated rejections, ghosting and vanity sharks. Traditional publishing is established to have a river of gold nuggets running past the office so the managers can lazily throw a line out from time to time to secure the largest, shiniest and most obvious ones. I'm think becoming a minor TV celebrity or a failed pop star is now the easiest path to becoming a published author.
I literally sat down at my desk to send out my first ever batches of queries, and this video's timing couldn't have been more perfect! Thank you, Alyssa!
I tried for a couple of years to get a query accepted with no success. My way of dealing with this is to keep writing. Occasionally, I will send out queries once I complete a book. If I don't hear back after a few months, I head down the self-publishing route. One way or another, the book will see the light of day. Keeps the morale up. One day, I might get a book traditionally published, but I'm not putting all my eggs in that basket.
Yeah, I needed this right now, admittedly I've had to take a break from querying due to life circumstances and the memory of seeing a UA-cam video not too long ago about how one person got their agent on their very first query letter after submitting short stories 💔 😢, I felt so awful, I was jealous, disheartened, and furious at the person who put that video up, not my best moment, but it's an honest one 😢
I feel you. Writing is such a soul-deep, passionate art and it is hard not to take rejection personally. It’s even harder not to question your own abilities when others seem to catch a lucky break. All we can do is keep writing, keep honing our craft, and remember that to not write, to not create, is to give up a chunk of our purpose and existence. You (we!) got this!
I'm so glad you've given yourself this break--querying definitely can take a toll on one's emotions so hopefully this break helps refresh you and your love for your story!
@@AlyssaMatesic Thanks so much! I think the break will help a lot, and who knows, maybe the book will be more wanted by the time I can get round to it again.
I'm currently querying and yeah all this. It's so disheartening right now. Everything is taking so long and the rejections are awful after waiting weeks to hear back. It does help knowing I'm not alone in feeling this way. Good luck out there writers.
What I find the most disheartening about the publishing industry, Alyssa, is the fact that multiple publishing houses and agents repeatedly rejected JK Rowling's queries for her first Harry Potter book. We all know the Harry Potter series became one of the most successful book series in history. WHAT WERE THEY THINKING? I just can't get over that sometimes. When I think about that, I feel the whole process is disjointed, sluggish, and broken. Is it worth all the querying trouble? I guess the authors that make it through would say it is.
I’m actually sending out my first batch this week…& I’m petrified. Hearing about everyone’s disappointment really knocks over my usual “glass half-full”.
@@AlyssaMatesic Hello! I wanted to share with you that I HAVE AN AGENT! She loved my book and my series proposal. Thank you for all your fabulous information and words of encouragement! I have bragged about you to my writing group and they are now fans of you, as well. 🥰
I was surprised to hear how many writers are discouraged about the query process. I guess I am used to moving beyond rejections since I am older and have experienced many life difficulties so I am able to cope. I learned so much writing my first novel that I have moved on to the next one while still querying for the first with about 10 a month. I don't think of my first novel as I feel it's ready when the time comes and I get an agent. I am loving my second novel even more enjoying the process a much wiser person. It is for me the very best thing to keep my spirits up. Your videos have given me confidence that I am on the right track. Thanks again!
I'm so glad to see that you're finding joy in the process! Writers can get caught up in the fear of rejection, but remembering that joy can help break any bad funk--thanks for sharing, Susan!
Thank you again for the tips, Alyssa! ❤ The one about creating a separate email address for querying is actually very helpful, that’s a really good idea. I’ll do that! Thank you!
You have impeccable timing Alyssa! I just sent out my first batch of queries this weekend and already got my first rejection this morning. Good tips to keep from overanalyzing/second guessing everything. Thanks as always!
Thanks for posting, Alyssa. It's rare that I don't steal at least one useful concept or facet of information from one of your videos. This one was no exception. Snapshots of what the [expletive] is going on at literary agencies in 2023 is extremely helpful to writers who have likely had more contact with police than we have agents.
I've been a subscriber for awhile. I queried last year and got a couple of full and partial. The last agent *almost* offered but she felt like her expertise wasn't fit for my genre and advised I should query her colleagues. I took that as hope after all the rejections. I edited my manuscript some more, made it better, and oddly, I am very excited to query again even about getting rejections 😅 it is such a weird feeling to miss it. Thank you for your passion in helping us authors, Alyssa! Will continue to support you :)
I've sent out about 50 queries in the past 11 months. I've had a handful of full requests and some interest from agents, but all have ended in rejections. While I can't help but get my hopes up every time I get a full request, I try to go into the process with the mindset that someone else's opinion of my work doesn't affect my opinion of myself. And that I can always self-publish. Lol
While I was incredibly lucky to find my agent quickly, I did receive a few rejections first. I had an agent point for point describe my book then rejected it, while the agent I wasn't even sure I was a good fit for ultimately picked me and is the best partner I could ask for in this process. Also, in terms of response rate. Agents receive literally hundreds of queries a day and some are requesting anywhere from the first five pages to the first three chapters per query. So if one agent receives just 7 queries a day (when it's more likely to be 70+) that is an enormous amount of reading to parse through on top of their other duties and client list. And while form rejections are also not helpful, I would not envy having to tell hundreds of thousands of people a year exactly why they weren't picked. The very first agent I queried rejected me within 16 hours, but they graciously shared they received nearly three hundred no's before they got their one yes. All it takes is one, you just have to hold on until you get yours
First of all, congrats on finding that perfect agent match! Secondly, thank you for sharing your querying journey--I think it's so valuable when writers share their actual experiences, and I hope this inspires others to keep at the process. 🤗
I am having an odd issue. I expected to get a few rejections with people who didn't like the story or maybe my writing style. Instead I have gotten 6 rejections saying they loved the story and concept, even enjoyed themselves while reading, but it wasn't for them and encouraged me to keep trying. I'd much rather them tell me I sucked. Then I'd had something to go back and work on. I feel like I'm in a debut purgatory.
Thanks Alyssa. I expect to start querying in the next 1-2 months, so this is very timely. You have a lot of great tips around using email and social networking as well as your industry expertise. I'd love to see a book from you on "best practices in querying". The separate email is really smart, and not just from a state of mind perspective. I think it would also be helpful for tracking the correspondence, and it shouldn't attract the amount of junk that my personal email does. Right now I am querying magazines for a number of short stories I've written, and I wish I'd thought of it for that!
Thank you so much for your videos! I’ve started querying a couple of months ago and have already had a few breaks from the process. As a result, I haven’t approached that much of the agents (10-15), but at least stayed more or less sane and motivated :) the downside of this approach though is that it might take an eternity to find an agent...
I've recently sent my MS to a developmental editor and will soon begin my querying journey. The first thing I did was to move all your videos about this topic to my "Watch Later" playlist. Thanks for the dose of reality. Knowing ahead of time that this process can be (will be) a frustrating process will help me persist. Also, I appreciate the sheer volume of info you provide. Thanks again for all you do for us.
This is such a timely video for me, as I was just talking about taking a querying break for my mental health. I knew it was gonna be a hard task, but I didn’t realize just *how* hard it was to see nearly 15 rejections + over 50 queries that haven’t gotten a response yet. Thanks for the reminder to be patient ❤
After sending queries for a few years, I do get upset when I get rejected. Sadly, I know it's part of it. The only time I get annoyed when an agent comes with their typical response stating 'its not for me'. When actually according to their bio, it is exactly for them. Well, I hope this time with my latest work, one agent will say YES. Few weeks gone already.
Very interesting you've done this. Directly relevant to my current concerns. Thank you for facing this topic. I respect your willingness to engage with this kind of thing. Can you sometime face off to this one. Please do a whole YT on this. It's the question that's getting increasingly pertinent these days: Why is a deal with a publishing co the best kind of deal? What exactly do they give you when you are told they won't necessarily pay you more. Just the opposite. Is there a genuine advantage getting a publishing deal despite the money question? If you say yes, precisely what is the nitty gritty of that? Further, modern publishers are actively looking for successful self pub authors and they take them over. Could give details but you will know. These are number one issues for authors today. Trad publishers know they have to adapt - or else. The conspicuous amalgamations speak volumes.
This industry just hasn’t been able to keep up with the times. It’s 2022 and the industry standard is still a year or more for a novel to debut. Sure, there are a lot of things happening, but it’s still an industry issue. For those of us who aren’t here for money, we’ll keep using this dinosaur of a method. But I totally get why so many people are jumping ship and going the indie route. Maybe if enough money gets syphoned from the Big 4 to the Indy market, they’ll see it’s worth retooling. Buuut I think we doubt it lol. It’s probably time to say that the third constant (besides taxes and death) is the slow-roll that is traditional publishing.
I have sent out more than 150 queries but no luck yet! Your videos are always very helpful tho! After months of waiting, I am starting to think about self-publishing on an online publishing platform. Any advice?
This is a sad, defeatist question. If I can't secure agent representation, what are the options for making my novel available online for anyone to read for free?
Had a few rejections which although gutting they are expected... I just got a Dm on X from an agent to die for who wants me to send my query and 3 chapters SHOOKETH! as they are closed to unsolicited Queries too. I'm scared to send as I'm holding on to the thought this might be something great and i don't want this feeling to end lol
Hi! My name is Dominique Gibson. I have been watching your videos for a while when it comes to traditional publishing and I had a question about being a hybrid author. What is your advice when it comes to someone who self publishes books but are interested in going the traditional publishing route as well (being a hybrid author?) Thank you.
I'm wondering if it's my word length. I paired it down from 173k to 137k 😅, but I think if I got it down further to 120k, I might seem more viable as a debut manuscript. And don't worry; I'll keep the story intact! #itsnotyouitsme
Going by general trad pub standards, you should probably trim it down to 110-115k or less, depending the genre. 120k+ means a publisher can't ship as many copies per box, which has a ripple of extra cost and inconvenience through the whole process they're not likely to endure for an unestablished author. 120k+ from an unpublished author also indicates to an agent or publisher that the manuscript is likely overwritten and the author doesn't realize it or thinks they're the exception. That may sound presumptuous of them, but honestly I've found they're right a lot of the time. I recommend looking for current videos on recommended word count for each genre, too. Because if your 120k book is any genre other than fantasy or sci fi it's gonna take way more cutting than another 5-10k. (This is just friendly advice from someone who's spent a long time studying trad pub, btw! I don't mean to discourage you or anything.)
Thank you for this ... as always your videos and thoughtful and insightful. If you have no objections, I plan to thank you in the Acknowledgements of my first novel (someday). Question for Ask Me Anything: once someone has an agent, and wants to post their stats to encourage other queriers, how do you count your rejections? Example, a person lands the 20th agent they query, but sent out 50 queries total, got 30 form rejections, had 3 rejections after full manuscript requests, and the rest didn't respond. Was the author rejected 19 times before getting an agent? 49 times? 33 times? This may seem silly, but ... is there an "official" way to count?
I expected a long wait to get a reply to my queries; but what has really gotten me down was the near total absence of any response. I sent out six queries three months ago; I got one auto-reject within 24 hours of submission (no reason was given). I haven't heard from any of the others. I've checked that the genre, word count and content did match up with the wish lists of the various agents I queried, so I am assuming the problem lay in the opening pages. I'm considering doing some revising, but without any feedback, I'm not certain what to change. Am I jumping the gun? Would you advise that I continue submitting with the book in its current state, or should I revise the book - or at least the opening? Thanks!
I would definitely recommend taking another look at your opening pages, as well as your query letter, in between batches of agents--that way you are maximizing each query package you sent out. But I also want to point out that if you've only sent out this particular manuscript 6 times, then a zero-callback rate is quite average! Querying is largely a numbers game, and there's a lot of other factors going on in the industry that affect the changes of you meeting your perfect agent match on the first try. I have a video going into a little more detail about this here: ua-cam.com/video/Wc7q9QY9QBk/v-deo.html
Cancel recommendations from other published authors do not encourage novellas to be published. So I decided to go with indie publishing instead... And now I have seven books on line with books2read
That's exactly what they're for. What chance does any author have of getting published if publishers are swamped with unvetted submissions from absolutely everyone? It would be like trying to recite Shakespeare during a space shuttle launch.
It's very painful to spend so much time researching agents, reading their bios, studying their wishlist, tailoring your query to that person specifically, only to be given a generic, copy-and-pasted rejection that makes you believe they never even bothered to read a single word. I wonder if agents realize how much power they have to crush dreams? Just some indication that they actually read a page of a book you spent 7 years working on every day would go a long way to keeping spirits alive. The whole process basically makes me want to kill myself.
It's incredibly rough on both sides, especially these days. Most agents/slush pile readers would give real feedback if they could, but their workload is crushing, their pay is beyond a joke, their bosses want nothing less than a best seller, and they get dozens if not hundreds (or more) queries in their inbox each week, 90% of which are from writers who are either querying too early in their artistic development or are simply not up to trad pub standards. It may seem like they could take an extra thirty seconds to say *anything* personal in a rejection letter, but if they did that for every rejection the time really adds up. One of the most important things to remember when slogging through querying is to not take things personally. At all. Individually, we writers are there every day for months or years working on the novel of our lives. To the rest of the world we're just one of thousands upon thousands. Holding on to that little bit of perspective will save a ton of heartache.
I only just got into Twitter, this whole platform is quite foreign to me to be honest, but I thought I came across your account there. Was that you or an imposter?
The idea that writers are complaining about a lack of response after only a few weeks of querying is laughable. Literary agents don't owe writers a quick response. The sooner writers realised this the less dejection and angst there'd be.
I lowkey agree. When I was looking into querying in the mid-10s I definitely remember seeing some response times clocking in at a couple to several months. And the way some people are voicing their concerns seems a bit...self-centered? We're artists, obviously we all want to have our heads patted and told we're special, that we did a good job even if our work isn't ready for trad pub yet, but to put that literal expectation on the industry is kinda ridiculous. They don't have the time to coddle us. And a lot of writers are citing 50 rejections as if its some absurd number, with the implication being they surely should have found an agent by now. I don't know what industry they think they're trying to break into, or maybe the culture around writing has avoided being direct for too long, but nobody is guaranteed or entitled to break into trad pub. In fact, the vast majority of aspiring writers will never even land an agent. The point is to do your best at what you love and send in your work juuuuust in case it works out in your favor. This recent idea that a career in writing comes with any kind of certainty is bizarre.
The problem with agents saying that if you get no response consider it a rejection is that you don't know if it's time to try another agent at the same agency.
Stephen King used to keep a spike that he tacked rejection letters on to. James Patterson was rejected by 31 publishers before he was published. Harry Potter was turned down by twenty publishers. Brandon Sanderson had written 12-13 novels before he was published. Just keep at it. Write for you. Write well. Write as best as you can. But write because you have a story that HAS to come out NO MATTER WHAT. It’s the only way to stay sane.
Love this advice! I couldn't agree more. Thanks for commenting!
Traditional querying - Sucky but necessary? Why? To me it's a symptom of the broken-ness and arrogance. All I have encountered in my querying journey is polite rejections, boilerplated rejections, ghosting and vanity sharks. Traditional publishing is established to have a river of gold nuggets running past the office so the managers can lazily throw a line out from time to time to secure the largest, shiniest and most obvious ones. I'm think becoming a minor TV celebrity or a failed pop star is now the easiest path to becoming a published author.
I literally sat down at my desk to send out my first ever batches of queries, and this video's timing couldn't have been more perfect! Thank you, Alyssa!
Best of luck as you go on this querying journey!
Query-exclusive email account. What a great idea! Thanks, Alyssa.
I tried for a couple of years to get a query accepted with no success. My way of dealing with this is to keep writing. Occasionally, I will send out queries once I complete a book. If I don't hear back after a few months, I head down the self-publishing route. One way or another, the book will see the light of day. Keeps the morale up. One day, I might get a book traditionally published, but I'm not putting all my eggs in that basket.
Truer words were never spoken! Thank you for this ❤
Thank you very much for all your videos, you’ve helped me through the entire process starting from writing my book! I’m in my querying process now! ❤
Yeah, I needed this right now, admittedly I've had to take a break from querying due to life circumstances and the memory of seeing a UA-cam video not too long ago about how one person got their agent on their very first query letter after submitting short stories 💔 😢, I felt so awful, I was jealous, disheartened, and furious at the person who put that video up, not my best moment, but it's an honest one 😢
I feel you. Writing is such a soul-deep, passionate art and it is hard not to take rejection personally. It’s even harder not to question your own abilities when others seem to catch a lucky break. All we can do is keep writing, keep honing our craft, and remember that to not write, to not create, is to give up a chunk of our purpose and existence. You (we!) got this!
@@seanbrown-author, thanks, and agreed, we got this!
I'm so glad you've given yourself this break--querying definitely can take a toll on one's emotions so hopefully this break helps refresh you and your love for your story!
@@AlyssaMatesic Thanks so much! I think the break will help a lot, and who knows, maybe the book will be more wanted by the time I can get round to it again.
Almost at that process, but be sure as to me not forgetting this video so, thanks. Keep well, Alyssa & keep posting.
I'm currently querying and yeah all this. It's so disheartening right now. Everything is taking so long and the rejections are awful after waiting weeks to hear back. It does help knowing I'm not alone in feeling this way. Good luck out there writers.
You are SO not alone. We are all in this together.
Great tips thank you
You are such a nice person and I love your videos.
What I find the most disheartening about the publishing industry, Alyssa, is the fact that multiple publishing houses and agents repeatedly rejected JK Rowling's queries for her first Harry Potter book. We all know the Harry Potter series became one of the most successful book series in history. WHAT WERE THEY THINKING? I just can't get over that sometimes. When I think about that, I feel the whole process is disjointed, sluggish, and broken. Is it worth all the querying trouble? I guess the authors that make it through would say it is.
I am deep in the querying trenches, and really appreciated this video. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
I’m actually sending out my first batch this week…& I’m petrified. Hearing about everyone’s disappointment really knocks over my usual “glass half-full”.
It can be daunting, but I hope as you go along the querying journey you can find solidarity in our writing community! Best of luck, Beth 🤗
@@AlyssaMatesic Hello! I wanted to share with you that I HAVE AN AGENT! She loved my book and my series proposal. Thank you for all your fabulous information and words of encouragement! I have bragged about you to my writing group and they are now fans of you, as well. 🥰
I was surprised to hear how many writers are discouraged about the query process. I guess I am used to moving beyond rejections since I am older and have experienced many life difficulties so I am able to cope. I learned so much writing my first novel that I have moved on to the next one while still querying for the first with about 10 a month. I don't think of my first novel as I feel it's ready when the time comes and I get an agent. I am loving my second novel even more enjoying the process a much wiser person. It is for me the very best thing to keep my spirits up. Your videos have given me confidence that I am on the right track. Thanks again!
I'm so glad to see that you're finding joy in the process! Writers can get caught up in the fear of rejection, but remembering that joy can help break any bad funk--thanks for sharing, Susan!
Thank you again for the tips, Alyssa! ❤ The one about creating a separate email address for querying is actually very helpful, that’s a really good idea. I’ll do that! Thank you!
What my writing friends and I find fun is to aim for 100 rejections in a year.
It absolutely turns anxiety into excitement.
Haha, I love this! Sometimes you have to find joy in the small things :)
You have impeccable timing Alyssa! I just sent out my first batch of queries this weekend and already got my first rejection this morning. Good tips to keep from overanalyzing/second guessing everything. Thanks as always!
You got this!
Thanks for posting, Alyssa. It's rare that I don't steal at least one useful concept or facet of information from one of your videos. This one was no exception. Snapshots of what the [expletive] is going on at literary agencies in 2023 is extremely helpful to writers who have likely had more contact with police than we have agents.
I've been a subscriber for awhile. I queried last year and got a couple of full and partial. The last agent *almost* offered but she felt like her expertise wasn't fit for my genre and advised I should query her colleagues. I took that as hope after all the rejections. I edited my manuscript some more, made it better, and oddly, I am very excited to query again even about getting rejections 😅 it is such a weird feeling to miss it.
Thank you for your passion in helping us authors, Alyssa! Will continue to support you :)
This is so exciting to hear! I wish you the best as you continue your querying journey!
I've sent out about 50 queries in the past 11 months. I've had a handful of full requests and some interest from agents, but all have ended in rejections. While I can't help but get my hopes up every time I get a full request, I try to go into the process with the mindset that someone else's opinion of my work doesn't affect my opinion of myself. And that I can always self-publish. Lol
Yes, everything is about perspective! Best of luck as you continue querying!
While I was incredibly lucky to find my agent quickly, I did receive a few rejections first.
I had an agent point for point describe my book then rejected it, while the agent I wasn't even sure I was a good fit for ultimately picked me and is the best partner I could ask for in this process.
Also, in terms of response rate. Agents receive literally hundreds of queries a day and some are requesting anywhere from the first five pages to the first three chapters per query. So if one agent receives just 7 queries a day (when it's more likely to be 70+) that is an enormous amount of reading to parse through on top of their other duties and client list. And while form rejections are also not helpful, I would not envy having to tell hundreds of thousands of people a year exactly why they weren't picked.
The very first agent I queried rejected me within 16 hours, but they graciously shared they received nearly three hundred no's before they got their one yes. All it takes is one, you just have to hold on until you get yours
First of all, congrats on finding that perfect agent match! Secondly, thank you for sharing your querying journey--I think it's so valuable when writers share their actual experiences, and I hope this inspires others to keep at the process. 🤗
I am having an odd issue. I expected to get a few rejections with people who didn't like the story or maybe my writing style. Instead I have gotten 6 rejections saying they loved the story and concept, even enjoyed themselves while reading, but it wasn't for them and encouraged me to keep trying. I'd much rather them tell me I sucked. Then I'd had something to go back and work on. I feel like I'm in a debut purgatory.
Oh you have no idea how much I needed this, Alyssa, thank you so much for everything you do. The querying trenches are rough right now.
Best of luck, Ruth!! It'll all be worth it once you get your agent!
Thanks for this! Will try to keep these in mind for my second attempt to query once im done my next draft edit. Querying is definitely a struggle!
Best of luck!
Thanks Alyssa. I expect to start querying in the next 1-2 months, so this is very timely. You have a lot of great tips around using email and social networking as well as your industry expertise. I'd love to see a book from you on "best practices in querying". The separate email is really smart, and not just from a state of mind perspective. I think it would also be helpful for tracking the correspondence, and it shouldn't attract the amount of junk that my personal email does. Right now I am querying magazines for a number of short stories I've written, and I wish I'd thought of it for that!
Thank you! This advice is putting my mind at ease.
Thank you so much for your videos! I’ve started querying a couple of months ago and have already had a few breaks from the process. As a result, I haven’t approached that much of the agents (10-15), but at least stayed more or less sane and motivated :) the downside of this approach though is that it might take an eternity to find an agent...
It'll all be worth it once you get that match! Best of luck!
I've recently sent my MS to a developmental editor and will soon begin my querying journey. The first thing I did was to move all your videos about this topic to my "Watch Later" playlist. Thanks for the dose of reality. Knowing ahead of time that this process can be (will be) a frustrating process will help me persist. Also, I appreciate the sheer volume of info you provide. Thanks again for all you do for us.
I'm so glad you're finding my videos helpful! Thanks for commenting!
literally the exact perfect timing for me ❤️ thank you
So glad!
This is such a timely video for me, as I was just talking about taking a querying break for my mental health. I knew it was gonna be a hard task, but I didn’t realize just *how* hard it was to see nearly 15 rejections + over 50 queries that haven’t gotten a response yet. Thanks for the reminder to be patient ❤
It's so great that you're taking this break! I hope it restores you for the next round of queries!
After sending queries for a few years, I do get upset when I get rejected. Sadly, I know it's part of it. The only time I get annoyed when an agent comes with their typical response stating 'its not for me'. When actually according to their bio, it is exactly for them.
Well, I hope this time with my latest work, one agent will say YES. Few weeks gone already.
Very interesting you've done this. Directly relevant to my current concerns. Thank you for facing this topic. I respect your willingness to engage with this kind of thing. Can you sometime face off to this one. Please do a whole YT on this. It's the question that's getting increasingly pertinent these days: Why is a deal with a publishing co the best kind of deal? What exactly do they give you when you are told they won't necessarily pay you more. Just the opposite. Is there a genuine advantage getting a publishing deal despite the money question? If you say yes, precisely what is the nitty gritty of that? Further, modern publishers are actively looking for successful self pub authors and they take them over. Could give details but you will know. These are number one issues for authors today. Trad publishers know they have to adapt - or else. The conspicuous amalgamations speak volumes.
This industry just hasn’t been able to keep up with the times. It’s 2022 and the industry standard is still a year or more for a novel to debut.
Sure, there are a lot of things happening, but it’s still an industry issue. For those of us who aren’t here for money, we’ll keep using this dinosaur of a method. But I totally get why so many people are jumping ship and going the indie route. Maybe if enough money gets syphoned from the Big 4 to the Indy market, they’ll see it’s worth retooling.
Buuut I think we doubt it lol. It’s probably time to say that the third constant (besides taxes and death) is the slow-roll that is traditional publishing.
I've sent close to 100 queries. I'm sooo sad. I was ready to self publish but this came up on my que.
When you’re single and unemployed, query rejections are a distant third after job and date rejections. :D
I have sent out more than 150 queries but no luck yet! Your videos are always very helpful tho! After months of waiting, I am starting to think about self-publishing on an online publishing platform. Any advice?
This is a sad, defeatist question. If I can't secure agent representation, what are the options for making my novel available online for anyone to read for free?
Had a few rejections which although gutting they are expected... I just got a Dm on X from an agent to die for who wants me to send my query and 3 chapters SHOOKETH! as they are closed to unsolicited Queries too. I'm scared to send as I'm holding on to the thought this might be something great and i don't want this feeling to end lol
Hi! My name is Dominique Gibson. I have been watching your videos for a while when it comes to traditional publishing and I had a question about being a hybrid author. What is your advice when it comes to someone who self publishes books but are interested in going the traditional publishing route as well (being a hybrid author?) Thank you.
I'm wondering if it's my word length. I paired it down from 173k to 137k 😅, but I think if I got it down further to 120k, I might seem more viable as a debut manuscript. And don't worry; I'll keep the story intact! #itsnotyouitsme
Going by general trad pub standards, you should probably trim it down to 110-115k or less, depending the genre. 120k+ means a publisher can't ship as many copies per box, which has a ripple of extra cost and inconvenience through the whole process they're not likely to endure for an unestablished author. 120k+ from an unpublished author also indicates to an agent or publisher that the manuscript is likely overwritten and the author doesn't realize it or thinks they're the exception. That may sound presumptuous of them, but honestly I've found they're right a lot of the time. I recommend looking for current videos on recommended word count for each genre, too. Because if your 120k book is any genre other than fantasy or sci fi it's gonna take way more cutting than another 5-10k. (This is just friendly advice from someone who's spent a long time studying trad pub, btw! I don't mean to discourage you or anything.)
@@Gaywatch no, no! I welcome the sentiment. Thank you! It is Adult Fantasy, but the fat must be trimmed!
How many rejections should one take before returning to do more work on their manuscript and trying again?
I go over this in another video, here: ua-cam.com/video/Wc7q9QY9QBk/v-deo.html
Thank you for this ... as always your videos and thoughtful and insightful. If you have no objections, I plan to thank you in the Acknowledgements of my first novel (someday).
Question for Ask Me Anything: once someone has an agent, and wants to post their stats to encourage other queriers, how do you count your rejections? Example, a person lands the 20th agent they query, but sent out 50 queries total, got 30 form rejections, had 3 rejections after full manuscript requests, and the rest didn't respond. Was the author rejected 19 times before getting an agent? 49 times? 33 times? This may seem silly, but ... is there an "official" way to count?
Will you accept fantasy genre in future?
I expected a long wait to get a reply to my queries; but what has really gotten me down was the near total absence of any response. I sent out six queries three months ago; I got one auto-reject within 24 hours of submission (no reason was given). I haven't heard from any of the others. I've checked that the genre, word count and content did match up with the wish lists of the various agents I queried, so I am assuming the problem lay in the opening pages. I'm considering doing some revising, but without any feedback, I'm not certain what to change. Am I jumping the gun? Would you advise that I continue submitting with the book in its current state, or should I revise the book - or at least the opening? Thanks!
I would definitely recommend taking another look at your opening pages, as well as your query letter, in between batches of agents--that way you are maximizing each query package you sent out.
But I also want to point out that if you've only sent out this particular manuscript 6 times, then a zero-callback rate is quite average! Querying is largely a numbers game, and there's a lot of other factors going on in the industry that affect the changes of you meeting your perfect agent match on the first try. I have a video going into a little more detail about this here: ua-cam.com/video/Wc7q9QY9QBk/v-deo.html
15 queries rejected and continue on to the 200 submission until I quit
Cancel recommendations from other published authors do not encourage novellas to be published. So I decided to go with indie publishing instead... And now I have seven books on line with books2read
I'm half convinced literary agents exist, so publishers aren't hassled by debut writers.
That's exactly what they're for. What chance does any author have of getting published if publishers are swamped with unvetted submissions from absolutely everyone? It would be like trying to recite Shakespeare during a space shuttle launch.
It's very painful to spend so much time researching agents, reading their bios, studying their wishlist, tailoring your query to that person specifically, only to be given a generic, copy-and-pasted rejection that makes you believe they never even bothered to read a single word. I wonder if agents realize how much power they have to crush dreams? Just some indication that they actually read a page of a book you spent 7 years working on every day would go a long way to keeping spirits alive. The whole process basically makes me want to kill myself.
It's incredibly rough on both sides, especially these days. Most agents/slush pile readers would give real feedback if they could, but their workload is crushing, their pay is beyond a joke, their bosses want nothing less than a best seller, and they get dozens if not hundreds (or more) queries in their inbox each week, 90% of which are from writers who are either querying too early in their artistic development or are simply not up to trad pub standards. It may seem like they could take an extra thirty seconds to say *anything* personal in a rejection letter, but if they did that for every rejection the time really adds up.
One of the most important things to remember when slogging through querying is to not take things personally. At all. Individually, we writers are there every day for months or years working on the novel of our lives. To the rest of the world we're just one of thousands upon thousands. Holding on to that little bit of perspective will save a ton of heartache.
I only just got into Twitter, this whole platform is quite foreign to me to be honest, but I thought I came across your account there. Was that you or an imposter?
My twitter handle is @AlyssaMatesic, so if the person you saw had this exact username, then it was me!
@@AlyssaMatesic Then perhaps you've seen my message
"You're ugly. You're disgusting. I'm gonna kill you. Give me $200." - The literary agent that lives in my head.
The idea that writers are complaining about a lack of response after only a few weeks of querying is laughable. Literary agents don't owe writers a quick response. The sooner writers realised this the less dejection and angst there'd be.
I lowkey agree. When I was looking into querying in the mid-10s I definitely remember seeing some response times clocking in at a couple to several months. And the way some people are voicing their concerns seems a bit...self-centered? We're artists, obviously we all want to have our heads patted and told we're special, that we did a good job even if our work isn't ready for trad pub yet, but to put that literal expectation on the industry is kinda ridiculous. They don't have the time to coddle us. And a lot of writers are citing 50 rejections as if its some absurd number, with the implication being they surely should have found an agent by now. I don't know what industry they think they're trying to break into, or maybe the culture around writing has avoided being direct for too long, but nobody is guaranteed or entitled to break into trad pub. In fact, the vast majority of aspiring writers will never even land an agent. The point is to do your best at what you love and send in your work juuuuust in case it works out in your favor. This recent idea that a career in writing comes with any kind of certainty is bizarre.
You forgot a "d" in your intro...
Disheartening, disappointing, and depressing.