Good job Robert. But since I have some late advice. After my military service I was DirecTV Field Supervisor, Trainer, and Quality Control for their beginning 18years, I also took care of their V.I.P. customers (such as Alec Baldwin, Andy Griffin, Brittany Spears, Howie Long, NASCAR, and many other Govt&Political people) for HDTV and Home Theater installations. I know what you explain as Y-combiner (6:25-6:35) is called 'Diplexer". My advice if you use 2 Diplexers (1 on each end of coaxial cable) then you will be fine to use both TV antenna and another signal together. A Diplexer/Combiner is labeled to tell you the frequency range for each side of connection and also indicates what connection is for TV and other signal. (9:55-10:00) to fix the antenna and cable resting...just use a zip-tie to attach the cable out of the way and a rubber boot o-ring. (11:10-11:50) I think the existing coaxial cable is the older style RG59 (made for analog TV signal)...It is better to have RG6 (made for Digital signal). You can see the words written on the side of cable or notice the copper size in middle of connector. The analog RG58 or 59 has more skinny copper like your hair and easy to move with your finger, but RG6 is thicker diameter looks same as pencil lead). If you want to replace old coaxial and 'fish' the new RG6 digital style then cut the metal F connector off one end of existing RG59, now the connector is gone and it will slide thru the roof. 'Fish thru your new piece of RG6 size cable (25ft at Walmart, Home Depot, Lowes). There is also a "Cable TV kit" at Home Depot or Lowes to put on new connectors end of coaxial wire. Then use waterproof silicone to seal the hole in roof again. ONE continuous piece is always best because every stop and extension piece loses signal strength / signal quality. (12:05) The "L" was a good idea but rain water will get into the threads and 'short' your wire or eventually rust the copper, so get the 'rubber boots' for cable connections, they are very cheap and that is what Professional Technicians use to keep the rain water out. General rule: If any section of cable connections are spliced/extended/ or not grounded it will affect your signal strength & quality. Also consider even after YOU do everything possible on YOUR side, the campground and multiple customers can hurt performance (check out those UA-cam videos from David Bott...he has designed wifi service for RV Parks, made some great videos, and is smart about these type things specifically for the RV lifestyle. Here is a couple links to get you started his videos: ua-cam.com/video/HRRYzUMZT3I/v-deo.html and ua-cam.com/video/7w16KoK3tgI/v-deo.html and many more. Sorry I write so much, but it is important to understand these 'technical' type things.
Just completed our wee boost install like yours. Thanks works great. Only hard part was squeezing the right kind of coax thru hole with other,also sealed our fittings! Thxz again.
I called weboost and was told I can use the existing tv coaxial cable for external antenna. And your video confirm it works and no difference with weboost factory cable. Thanks. I will save the drilling and running of cable. Simply use the tv coaxial cable.
Thanks for review. I took a 2 month trip from NY to Texas to Florida and back at the beginning of the year. I tested the Weboost 4G-X-RV with Verizon, ATT, and T-mobile at all the places I boondocked/camped. I tested both an omni and yagi external antenna. The results were interesting. I learned a couple of things: 1st, DB isn't a very useful metric. I used the Speedtest app to check upload/download speeds. You can have great DB, but a crowded/lousy cell tower. After all, how fast you can download or upload a video is what makes the booster useful. 2nd, there was no best network. All three major networks were better at some places. A good portion of the time, the unboosted signal had a better download speed than boosted. Upload speeds were always better with the booster. 3rd, The yagi takes time to set up (and can't be used while driving). In really remote areas with no signal, the opensignal app didn't always give a direction. So you had to hunt for the tower. At one place on the Texas coast, I could only get a connection with the yagi antenna. Most of the time, the extra effort to put up the yagi wasn't worth the effort. The omni antenna provided similiar upload/download speeds. I have a small 14.5' trailer and I had to use the small candy bar antenna instead of the one provided with the RV kit. Since I couldn't get the required separation (getting green leds during boot-up). Weboost was definitely worth having. But having multiple carriers is also important!
Yes, if the tower has low throughput there's nothing you can do. I least in my experience I was able to get something, where there was virtually nothing.
Robert, Neal from Miami here. I have a similar set up I am installing before my trip this weekend. I am using the tv cable/satellite input on the side of the rv using a LNR-195 cable to F adapter. and back out on the inside by the television to the booster. I am using a directional yagi antenna. I hope to have a positive report next week from the Winter Star Party in Chiefland Fl.
Good honest feedback Robert. Now our story... we were camping in Manatee Springs State Park in Florida back in spring (2017). While at our campsite, we were having trouble getting a cell signal. 1 bar would come in waves. And it wouldn’t last long at all. Couldn’t access the internet at all. We happened to go to Gainesville and saw a Best Buy. Went in a purchased the WeBoost sleek. It’s one of the smaller versions like you mentioned. Paid around $200. Can’t remember exactly. Got back to the park and hooked it up. It brought in another bar and sometimes two. But we constantly retained a signal. I later purchase a little better antenna from weBoost. We now use our ZTE Mobley with its unlimited data plan with it when traveling and it works great. I think the RV version like you have here with that nicer antenna would be nice to have. One day, we will get one. But anyway, wanted to share our experience and how much we like our weBoost.
Dude, you just blew through that stop sign! Not sure it's worth $500 if I can't even check text messages or scroll through Twitter, but thank you for the review. Keep doing your work.
We have the same Weboost cellular booster, before camping in Palo Duro Canyon State park in Texas we read some reviews that said there was a weak AT+T signal there but no usable Verizon. We confirmed that information with the gate attendant. Since we have Verizon we thought we would be without internet for our stay. We camped in the bottom of the canyon, in the Juniper campground, the most remote campground in the park. I checked my cell phone and it fluctuated between no service and 1 bar of 1x. Just for grins I turned on the Weboost and to our amazement we now had 3 bars of solid 4G LTE, good enough to stream UA-cam and my wife was able to make phone calls. On our recent 5-1/2 week trip from Alaska to Georgia, we had internet every night thanks to the Weboost.
I can't say how many times I wish I had one of those. West Coast Roller just installed a WEBOOST too and had similar results as you. You can get your service on the fringe and a little beyond but when the signal's gone, it's gone. There are better antennas available that may improve communication a little more. Next step is a SAT Phone. Great review and thanks Robert,,,
Robert for protection of the roof under the antenna, any antenna a couple of layers of eternabond tape is great. Better to add more tape then to see a worn spot on the roof.
Did you seal the cable connections on the outside antenna? If not, get some coax sealant (its a soft putty like substance) and seal it. Those connectors are bad about letting water in the coax.
I've never used that. I suggest the coax sealant because it is pliable and doesn't dry out. I use it on all my Ham Radio cables, some of which have been outside for 10+ years. Never had a problem. www.amazon.com/Universal-Electronics-Original-104-Moldable/dp/B0002ZPINC
Robert, have you had any issues with the cellular antenna mounted to your TV antenna since you installed it? I'm concerned about wind at high speed damaging the antenna or the RV roof.
@@TravelingRobert Thanks Robert. I've ordered the weBoost and I'm going to do the exact same antenna installation. Great video by the way. Happy travels!
Cell signals have a very short range. When you are even a few miles from them your signal dramatically deteriorates. Like in Roberts case if there is not much signal available to amplify, the performance will just not be there. These exterior antennas are necessarily omni directional "low signal gain" for use on moving platforms. On a stationary platform a directional antenna with more gain is your only hope for receiving usable signal in weak RF areas. As Andrew stated below more than likely the weboost cable is a different impedance then the standard 75 ohm RG6 or 59 TV transmission cable. Most RF electronics are designed to operate at 50 Ohms RG58 or RG223 double shield. Using the wrong impedance cable will most likely further deteriorate the units performance.
I want to use my existing antenna coaxial cable on my camper roof like you did, but having a hard time finding the adapters. Where do you order your parts from? I tried Amazon with no luck. Thanks
un detalle a considerar si quieres utilizar el cable de la TV para el booster, es que para la TV es de 75 Ohms y para el booster debe ser de 50 Ohms. Te va a causar pérdida de señal el que no sea el cable adecuado
Thank you for your video. I was thinking of doing the same thing but wasn't sure it would work using the RV cable. Based on your results, I think I will give it a try next spring. I currently have the WeBoost antenna on a long pole i put up next to RV and run cable to satellite in on side of RV. I use it with the ATT Mobley.
I have some beginner question for You!! A booster works for CDMA 850mhz mean it should support--> any technology with 850mhz LTE band /2g/or any other technology ?? some people will say CDMA booster with 850mhz will work for 850mhz LTE is that true?
Robert, the cable that came with the booster is most likely - 50 Ohms. The RG-6 TV antenna cable is 75 Ohms. Mixing the cables will create some impedance mismatch. It's best to use a proper LOW LOSS cable. Another thing worth mentioning. All external coax cable connections must be sealed properly. Moisture may cause some serious problems when it gets into the coax cable. Also, it may be worth adding a directional external antenna. You already have a rotator for your TV antenna and can use it with the directional antenna.
I'm considering a booster, but not sure weBoost is the answer, at least for me. They are expensive units, and I don't depend on internet lifelines. Not yet, anyway. Thank you for sharing your install. I'm not interested in putting another "hole" in a fiberglass roof. :-) Ted & Lee Ann PS Getting ready to order a couple CDs. We really love your music.
Great video, how many subscribers do UA-camrs need to have in order to start getting free stuff and do free advertising for theses companies? Just curious at what point do companies feel its worth there time?
Yep. TV sucks, especially with all the fake communist news these days. What's there to watch? 55 minutes of commercials and 5 minutes of some sick garbage? We disconnected cable 5 years ago and have never watched TV since. I feel much better this way and have a lot more time for more useful things.
I'm riding,riding riding in my RV,my RV, wherever the hell I wanna be, in my RV my RV! yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah hell yeah!!! "Los Pinche Gringo's RV Club!"
That signal strength doesn’t make sense. -73 dBm should give you great signal full bars on my device. Not sure how your android device is displaying that great signal with such poor quality 4G service.
When the cell signal is weak there is nothing to amplify, the -73 signal may have little to no content. I notice the exterior ant. is necessarily omni directional, this gives very little gain from fringe signals. In fringe areas a directional ant. with gain is your only hope and might be fine on a stationary platform, this would not do well in a moving platform such as a car or RV.
Good job Robert. But since I have some late advice. After my military service I was DirecTV Field Supervisor, Trainer, and Quality Control for their beginning 18years, I also took care of their V.I.P. customers (such as Alec Baldwin, Andy Griffin, Brittany Spears, Howie Long, NASCAR, and many other Govt&Political people) for HDTV and Home Theater installations. I know what you explain as Y-combiner (6:25-6:35) is called 'Diplexer". My advice if you use 2 Diplexers (1 on each end of coaxial cable) then you will be fine to use both TV antenna and another signal together. A Diplexer/Combiner is labeled to tell you the frequency range for each side of connection and also indicates what connection is for TV and other signal.
(9:55-10:00) to fix the antenna and cable resting...just use a zip-tie to attach the cable out of the way and a rubber boot o-ring.
(11:10-11:50) I think the existing coaxial cable is the older style RG59 (made for analog TV signal)...It is better to have RG6 (made for Digital signal). You can see the words written on the side of cable or notice the copper size in middle of connector. The analog RG58 or 59 has more skinny copper like your hair and easy to move with your finger, but RG6 is thicker diameter looks same as pencil lead). If you want to replace old coaxial and 'fish' the new RG6 digital style then cut the metal F connector off one end of existing RG59, now the connector is gone and it will slide thru the roof. 'Fish thru your new piece of RG6 size cable (25ft at Walmart, Home Depot, Lowes). There is also a "Cable TV kit" at Home Depot or Lowes to put on new connectors end of coaxial wire. Then use waterproof silicone to seal the hole in roof again. ONE continuous piece is always best because every stop and extension piece loses signal strength / signal quality.
(12:05) The "L" was a good idea but rain water will get into the threads and 'short' your wire or eventually rust the copper, so get the 'rubber boots' for cable connections, they are very cheap and that is what Professional Technicians use to keep the rain water out. General rule: If any section of cable connections are spliced/extended/ or not grounded it will affect your signal strength & quality. Also consider even after YOU do everything possible on YOUR side, the campground and multiple customers can hurt performance (check out those UA-cam videos from David Bott...he has designed wifi service for RV Parks, made some great videos, and is smart about these type things specifically for the RV lifestyle. Here is a couple links to get you started his videos: ua-cam.com/video/HRRYzUMZT3I/v-deo.html and ua-cam.com/video/7w16KoK3tgI/v-deo.html and many more. Sorry I write so much, but it is important to understand these 'technical' type things.
Thank you, that was a very thorough explanation. I'm going to look into the rubber boots for the L connector on the roof.
My ears are smoking reading this!
Just completed our wee boost install like yours. Thanks works great. Only hard part was squeezing the right kind of coax thru hole with other,also sealed our fittings! Thxz again.
We boost is a great product, ive used them for two years now with great success in areas I could never have a solid signal.
I called weboost and was told I can use the existing tv coaxial cable for external antenna. And your video confirm it works and no difference with weboost factory cable. Thanks. I will save the drilling and running of cable. Simply use the tv coaxial cable.
After 2 years it has worked well all the time with the existing cable
Thanks for review. I took a 2 month trip from NY to Texas to Florida and back at the beginning of the year. I tested the Weboost 4G-X-RV with Verizon, ATT, and T-mobile at all the places I boondocked/camped. I tested both an omni and yagi external antenna. The results were interesting. I learned a couple of things:
1st, DB isn't a very useful metric. I used the Speedtest app to check upload/download speeds. You can have great DB, but a crowded/lousy cell tower. After all, how fast you can download or upload a video is what makes the booster useful.
2nd, there was no best network. All three major networks were better at some places. A good portion of the time, the unboosted signal had a better download speed than boosted. Upload speeds were always better with the booster.
3rd, The yagi takes time to set up (and can't be used while driving). In really remote areas with no signal, the opensignal app didn't always give a direction. So you had to hunt for the tower. At one place on the Texas coast, I could only get a connection with the yagi antenna. Most of the time, the extra effort to put up the yagi wasn't worth the effort. The omni antenna provided similiar upload/download speeds.
I have a small 14.5' trailer and I had to use the small candy bar antenna instead of the one provided with the RV kit. Since I couldn't get the required separation (getting green leds during boot-up).
Weboost was definitely worth having. But having multiple carriers is also important!
Yes, if the tower has low throughput there's nothing you can do. I least in my experience I was able to get something, where there was virtually nothing.
Robert, Neal from Miami here. I have a similar set up I am installing before my trip this weekend. I am using the tv cable/satellite input on the side of the rv using a LNR-195 cable to F adapter. and back out on the inside by the television to the booster. I am using a directional yagi antenna. I hope to have a positive report next week from the Winter Star Party in Chiefland Fl.
Hey, good luck. Mine works great
Neal, any update?
Good honest feedback Robert.
Now our story... we were camping in Manatee Springs State Park in Florida back in spring (2017). While at our campsite, we were having trouble getting a cell signal. 1 bar would come in waves. And it wouldn’t last long at all. Couldn’t access the internet at all. We happened to go to Gainesville and saw a Best Buy. Went in a purchased the WeBoost sleek. It’s one of the smaller versions like you mentioned. Paid around $200. Can’t remember exactly. Got back to the park and hooked it up. It brought in another bar and sometimes two. But we constantly retained a signal. I later purchase a little better antenna from weBoost. We now use our ZTE Mobley with its unlimited data plan with it when traveling and it works great. I think the RV version like you have here with that nicer antenna would be nice to have. One day, we will get one. But anyway, wanted to share our experience and how much we like our weBoost.
Hey Brian, I think it will come in very handy
Dude, you just blew through that stop sign!
Not sure it's worth $500 if I can't even check text messages or scroll through Twitter, but thank you for the review. Keep doing your work.
We have the same Weboost cellular booster, before camping in Palo Duro Canyon State park in Texas we read some reviews that said there was a weak AT+T signal there but no usable Verizon. We confirmed that information with the gate attendant. Since we have Verizon we thought we would be without internet for our stay. We camped in the bottom of the canyon, in the Juniper campground, the most remote campground in the park. I checked my cell phone and it fluctuated between no service and 1 bar of 1x. Just for grins I turned on the Weboost and to our amazement we now had 3 bars of solid 4G LTE, good enough to stream UA-cam and my wife was able to make phone calls. On our recent 5-1/2 week trip from Alaska to Georgia, we had internet every night thanks to the Weboost.
I'm glad you had a good experience. I definitely think it is worth it if you need internet. I'll be using it next trip.
I can't say how many times I wish I had one of those. West Coast Roller just installed a WEBOOST too and had similar results as you. You can get your service on the fringe and a little beyond but when the signal's gone, it's gone. There are better antennas available that may improve communication a little more. Next step is a SAT Phone. Great review and thanks Robert,,,
Thank you. I think it will come in handy
Robert for protection of the roof under the antenna, any antenna a couple of layers of eternabond tape is great. Better to add more tape then to see a worn spot on the roof.
Good idea. I'll try that
Robert this actually is the best booster there is.
I was very pleaased
Whey make a small pen with a tip to repair any wood damage. It just paints,/ stains the damaged area to match.
Can you install this on the antennae mast and still use the antennae? With a separate coax cable going to both. Will they interfere?
Not my area of expertise but I'd say probably not.
Hi , Robert maybe the battery connections in your remote are dirty in your ceiling fan in your RV..
I'll check that
Very interesting evaluation of the wi boost system.
I think it is a good product
Did you seal the cable connections on the outside antenna? If not, get some coax sealant (its a soft putty like substance) and seal it. Those connectors are bad about letting water in the coax.
I hadn't thought of that, but I am going to do it. Thank you!
How about some eternabond tape. Will that work as well?
I've never used that. I suggest the coax sealant because it is pliable and doesn't dry out. I use it on all my Ham Radio cables, some of which have been outside for 10+ years. Never had a problem. www.amazon.com/Universal-Electronics-Original-104-Moldable/dp/B0002ZPINC
You can find it locally at radio comm businesses and at a Radio Shack if there's one in Miami.
Thank you. I think we still have one left
Robert, have you had any issues with the cellular antenna mounted to your TV antenna since you installed it? I'm concerned about wind at high speed damaging the antenna or the RV roof.
It's held up well. I kicked it once while walking on the roof, and had to replace it
@@TravelingRobert Thanks Robert. I've ordered the weBoost and I'm going to do the exact same antenna installation. Great video by the way. Happy travels!
Robert. Si pueden pasar dos señales en el mismo coaxial sin interferirse, si tienen suficiente separación de frecuencia entre ellas.
Cell signals have a very short range. When you are even a few miles from them your signal dramatically deteriorates. Like in Roberts case if there is not much signal available to amplify, the performance will just not be there. These exterior antennas are necessarily omni directional "low signal gain" for use on moving platforms. On a stationary platform a directional antenna with more gain is your only hope for receiving usable signal in weak RF areas. As Andrew stated below more than likely the weboost cable is a different impedance then the standard 75 ohm RG6 or 59 TV transmission cable. Most RF electronics are designed to operate at 50 Ohms RG58 or RG223 double shield. Using the wrong impedance cable will most likely further deteriorate the units performance.
I want to use my existing antenna coaxial cable on my camper roof like you did, but having a hard time finding the adapters. Where do you order your parts from? I tried Amazon with no luck.
Thanks
I'm pretty sure I used Amazon. I think this is what I used amzn.to/2N9POVl
The song in the beginning lol was cool
Thanks!
un detalle a considerar si quieres utilizar el cable de la TV para el booster, es que para la TV es de 75 Ohms y para el booster debe ser de 50 Ohms. Te va a causar pérdida de señal el que no sea el cable adecuado
Thank you for your video. I was thinking of doing the same thing but wasn't sure it would work using the RV cable. Based on your results, I think I will give it a try next spring. I currently have the WeBoost antenna on a long pole i put up next to RV and run cable to satellite in on side of RV. I use it with the ATT Mobley.
I think I lost a tiny little bit of signal strength, but not significant enough
really appreciate the video. was also thinking of using the existing tv coaxial cable. thanks for the videos
You're welcome
Read Andrews response above on impedance mismatch of coax cable.
Great video, as usual Very informative. Great job
Thank you
Very useful information, Thanks.
I have some beginner question for You!! A booster works for CDMA 850mhz mean it should support--> any technology with 850mhz LTE band /2g/or any other technology ?? some people will say CDMA booster with 850mhz will work for 850mhz LTE is that true?
I really have no idea how it works. I imagine it is designed to amplify every cellular band, but I just know it works.
Robert, the cable that came with the booster is most likely - 50 Ohms. The RG-6 TV antenna cable is 75 Ohms. Mixing the cables will create some impedance mismatch. It's best to use a proper LOW LOSS cable.
Another thing worth mentioning. All external coax cable connections must be sealed properly. Moisture may cause some serious problems when it gets into the coax cable.
Also, it may be worth adding a directional external antenna. You already have a rotator for your TV antenna and can use it with the directional antenna.
I'm considering a booster, but not sure weBoost is the answer, at least for me. They are expensive units, and I don't depend on internet lifelines. Not yet, anyway. Thank you for sharing your install. I'm not interested in putting another "hole" in a fiberglass roof. :-) Ted & Lee Ann PS Getting ready to order a couple CDs. We really love your music.
I think it is a good product
You didn't stop at the stop sign at that park
I sure didn't
Billy G. He will stop twice at the next stop sign 😁
LOL
We Trust In Traveling Robert...wink
For many good reasons!..
He's Kool!
Hi I wanted to ask you does it work with t mobile be if it does it sure will help me
It works with all four major US carriers
This is awesome. Been waiting for a detailed look at these boosters. Ever use a Wi-Fi booster? Is it similar?
Haven't used a Wi-Fi booster yet.
Great video, how many subscribers do UA-camrs need to have in order to start getting free stuff and do free advertising for theses companies? Just curious at what point do companies feel its worth there time?
I started getting cheap stuff after about 15K and nice stuff after about 25K, and after I started asking too.
Muy instructivo, thank Robert
il y a beaucoup d’endroit ou il n'y a pas de signal vidéo intéressante
Robert, how can you not have a tv? I would go insane without it. Lol. Love your videos keep up the good work :)
I'd rather have internet. That's my TV
TV is garbage except for sports. You tube videos are far superior.
Yep. TV sucks, especially with all the fake communist news these days. What's there to watch? 55 minutes of commercials and 5 minutes of some sick garbage? We disconnected cable 5 years ago and have never watched TV since. I feel much better this way and have a lot more time for more useful things.
tho your results were somewhat disappointing, being able to communicate via text beats not being able to communicate at all
Actually I was not all that disappointed, especially since voice communication was rock solid. The internet, well... first world problems as they say.
I'm riding,riding riding in my RV,my RV, wherever the hell I wanna be, in my RV my RV! yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah hell yeah!!! "Los Pinche Gringo's RV Club!"
+Christopher Cruise :-)
Good video Robert but i wouldnt give 500 for it.
It is a little expensive but it works well
👍🏽🇲🇽🇺🇸🙂
That signal strength doesn’t make sense. -73 dBm should give you great signal full bars on my device. Not sure how your android device is displaying that great signal with such poor quality 4G service.
When the cell signal is weak there is nothing to amplify, the -73 signal may have little to no content. I notice the exterior ant. is necessarily omni directional, this gives very little gain from fringe signals. In fringe areas a directional ant. with gain is your only hope and might be fine on a stationary platform, this would not do well in a moving platform such as a car or RV.