The Dom I still love that they published the salmon of doubt posthumously and unfinished so we will never know the ending it just seems strangely appropriate from a man who wrote about such mad and wonderful things places and characters.
So unpopular opinion: I have a fondness and actually enjoy the Hitchhiker movie. It's what got me into the series and I'm glad that it did because this series is my favorite book series of all damn time. Anyways next video should be fun XD
I've only watched and loved the movie! Due to my brain injury, it's much more challenging to read novels, though I previously delighted in reading over screen adaptations... 🤷🏻♀️ Stories are the best no matter how you take them in and appreciate them! That's my current philosophy.
It breaks my heart that Adams never got to see his final wish completed. RIP, Doug. This universe is far less fun without your star shining in it. So long, and thanks for all the fish.
I really think they must have chosen Marten Freeman to play Bilbo Baggins because of his performance of the feature film adaptation of hhgttg. I mean they are pretty much the same character on the same arc... Minus the whole home exploding and love interest
It seems that you left out the LP versions of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" 1979 and "The Restaurant at the End of the Universe" 1980, which were newly recorded adaptations of the Primary Phase radio scripts, made to circumvent issues with publicly selling copies of the original Primary Phase. And while they basically used the original radio scripts, there are differences such as cast, dialogue/exchange changes, and the inclusion of Hot Black Desiato. Also, I don't think the film is as bad as you make it out. No it's not my favorite version, I agree and I do wish that they followed the Primary Phase or book more closely, but I do love the props, sets and many of the costumes. That said, give me the Original radio play actors and scripts, and the budget and props of the new film, and I'd be happy. But we need all five original books! Thanks to Dirk Maggs we can finally have a complete series of stories at least by the original crew.
It is strange that he left out the records, perhaps he didn't know about them? Personally, I think they're better than the early radio series. And yes the film is appalling, it's as if the director, casting director and script writers didn't "get" the whole vibe of the books, radio series, TV series and records. It stinks... badly.
the movie came out in time for my Dad's 42nd [AGAIN. he turns 42 every year. and has for 20+ years :D ] so we all tromped to the movie theater, toting towels, and we got my dad a bathrobe, which we were perfectly will to FORCE him to wear... luckily [and obviously] i come by my geeky-genes honestly, and once he was done gushing about how awesome we, as a family, are, he put it on. and wore it through the movie, and to dinner, and to the bar... this story was as pointless as many of the random asides in Mr. Adams' books, but i hope it made you smile :)
Denelian it has. But quite why you have decided tell us this is impossible to comprehend by anyone below the level of Advanced God, who by the way came into the universe three millionths of a second after it was created, rather than, as they claim, the previous week.
I'd never got to see this! Amazing job putting this together. Adams' work means so much to me. I started at the beginning in '77 or '78 when the local college radio station played the first radio serial. I feel like Douglas molded my young brain into the right shape and it's something for which I will be forever thankful. ❤️
Holy shit, this is a whole new level of the matrix I was NOT prepared for. It's like trying to simultaneously solve AND disprove string theory whilst playing 3D chess
From beginning to end this video was really cool. The setup for the video was great. And the plug at the end was nice. Share the spot light Dom, paying it forward.
I highly appreciate that roadmap to the series. I own everything (even the radio show transcripts) but I I never understood the weird shift between the second and third phase. It all makes perfect sense now, thank you
@The Dom - it looks like you're going to need to update this in 2018, when the Hexagonal Phase comes out on radio, based upon loosely 'And Another Thing' and other material. I liked the explanation given in Mostly Harmless / the Quintessential Phase, that all of the stories are equally valid in the Whole Sort of General Mish Mash but that one's perception of them is defined by how one slices them. For me, the 'canon' narrative is the radio series, which I listened to before I read any of the novels. For my friend, it's the novels. It makes me happy that they found a way to make everyone equally right about this!
This is fascinating! I haven’t heard much about this since I haven’t listened to the radio shows. I’ve watched the TV shows, and I’ve read all the books, but I haven’t heard the radio shows. I need to listen to the radio shows one day. Honestly I absolutely love the way Douglas Adams writes, and I try to use my favourite features of his writing into my own.
Perhaps you are referring to another game, but there is a text adventure still available on the BBC website: www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/1g84m0sXpnNCv84GpN2PLZG/the-hitchhikers-guide-to-the-galaxy-game-30th-anniversary-edition
A friend of mine had it on his computer. The pain in the ass it was just getting the Babel fish in your ear meant I never got very far since I could only play when at his house. Pre-Internet days, so walkthroughs were not easily available.
Yeah, and there's even illustrations in the same style as the Guide graphics from the TV version! (Kinda) I love it. :) And yes, I'd played it before it went up on the website.
I loved that old infocom game. Best part of it was the Tea / no Tea puzzle where you had to be carrying both in order to go through a door. and in order to do so you had to use a microscopic fleet to go into your brain and destroy your common sense.
I absolutely love your work! We've been following you for about a year now! My mind was blown when you released this because our channel just released an episode about Marvin (with comments on K2SO). I'm so happy that you're succeeding and wish you the best of luck. Hope your move to LA goes smoothly!
You tricksy devil! I was going to save this until later, but as soon as Journey of the Sorcerer started up, I had to keep going. Also, I want to genuinely thank you for making this. I grew up listening to the radio series (as in, you just won't believe how... many times I've heard them), and it's deeply satisfying to actually have an explanation for some of the eddies in the timeline.
Dear Dom, you are absolutely lovely. I've been bingewatching your channel and I love everything I've seen! I'm so excited for The Hitchikers Guide To The Galaxy! Don't worry, your graph made things clearer for me actually. ;) Hava a lovely day and I look forward to the next one!
The last time I was this confused was when I had one Pangalactic Gargleblaster to many. So - one. Also - just two more weeks until Towel Day. Tell me that's no coincidence... :)
Most people I talk to hate the movie because of how much they changed from the books. With most adaptations I would agree that that's a good enough reason to at least be weary of it, but in this case I think it should just be expected, given Adams' track record. Honestly I feel like if he had passed away earlier in production, the movie would have ended up being more 'faithful' to the 'source material', not less. As it stands, I love the movie.
...When you quoted from The Restaurant at the End of the Universe, you made me squee with joy. Hitchhiker's Guide holds a special place in my heart, and has likely influenced my views on humor and society.
I don't love the film version of HG2G but I don't hate it. It got me into the books and I think it's a decent enough version of the style of comedy that Adams wrote as well as can be nearly 3 decades in a different medium. Also great shoutout for Rocked. You two are some of my favourite video producers!
you forgot 1 adaptation, the text adventure video game., which revolves around Arthur trying to A) make marvin happy and B) get himself a cup of tea. all done through getting a bunch of fluff.
I hate to say, but the Disney adaptation is what got me into the series in the first place and I have a soft spot for it. I'm happy to see you do a lost in adaptation of it and I have acknowledged that it's bad. But I feel it had some good elements....
I believe Douglas Adams didn't consider any version of the story to be final or "canon", but enjoyed making the constant changes. As such, I don't know if Adams would have liked the movie, but I have a feeling he wouldn't dislike it as much as Dom appears to. I actually enjoyed it, so I'm interested to hear Dom's points in his discussion about it. My introduction to the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy was the original TV show, and then the novel, so I think as long as a new listener/reader/watcher already knows how much the stories diverge from themselves, they should be fine with almost any interpretation.
Ooh, must pay this one closer attention later, it intrigues me! (I’m liking + commenting immediately in an effort to maximize my support for something sabotaged against the algorithm)
I'm so looking forward to hearing you talk about the film! :D Maybe I have to face the truth that I'm one of those fans that likes to see reviewers suffer. I'm also loving the promotion of other channels at the end of your videos now. Going to go check out Rocked and I'm excited to see what other hidden treasures you'll recommend next!
I understood everything when you first explained it - and english isn't my mother tongue. You did a great job with that timeline! I'm looking forward to the episode!
3:08-3:48 That reminds me of when 'First Blood' author David Morrell wrote novelisations of the films Rambo 2+3 where he added an introduction saying [spoiler] 'In my novel Rambo dies, in the movie he lives' and then followed the film continuity [particularly regarding Rambo-Colonel Trautman's relationship].
Wow, Dom. You had me right until the end. The H2G2 movie was pretty damn good. And you can't blame it for changing things, when the whole POINT of your flowchart-style analysis was pointing out how Mr. Adams was perfectly fine with changes.
so I was watching this episode having seen the Hitchhikers Guide film ages and ages ago, thinking "Oh I see what you mean, so the film would have been in the spirit of the idea of adapting the previous material but changing things to keep things varied", but then that ending! I'm very excited to hear your thoughts on the film.
its also great that its all over the place.. because its like the whole thing is a shared memory or a shared fever dream. everyone remembering it slightly differently and everyone remembering bits someone else didn't remember.
The film would certainly have had Douglas Adams spinning in his grave and he is still spinning as it made a lot of people angry and is generally considered to be a bad move.
This is awesome... I was born in the late 90s and my first experience with Hitchhiker's was the movie and at the time I didn't know about the books or radio versions or the TV show... one of my all time favorite movies and apparently I have some reading to do!!
The casting and writing of Trillian in the series was so weird considering in the first book she's even described as dark skinned. I always felt Mostly Harmless also left things far more open and un-rounded than So Long and Thanks For All The Fish did, since that book actually had a fairly satisfying ending and really only left one small detail about Agrajag unresolved.
i grew up listening to the audio books of: the hobbit, hitchhikers guide, restaurant at the end of the universe, old radio drama's like "the shadow" and a mix of dean koontz and Stephen king books among other things. (and that's not counting what read as a kid, some of witch are in the audio list) the dom talking about one of the series that I learned some of my most important life rules from is gunna be bloody brilliant!
Nicely done, The Dom. I've personally read the scripts to the first two series of the radio shows, but have never actually heard them. I should get on that.
I don't think the movie was that bad; I consider it more of a tribute to Adams' work rather than an adaptation of the first book/radio series. So most of the story was vastly different; but if you did faithfully adapt it without any changes, would it be as good as the original(s)? And like you said, Adams was fine with adaptations being different for the sake of variety.
The tv miniseries that covered the first book was 3 episodes. 90 minutes long. The entire thing was 180 minutes, just under 3 hours. With some cuts (recaps and book entries mostly) it could have easily fit the typical 2 hour+ run time of a movie without any real problem.
Imagine how much MORE complicated this video would be if it included the video game, the towels, the differences between the LP and the original radio series, and the minor changes to the Illustrated edition, and the various location-based adjustments, etc.
*@The Dom* -- The events surrounding the character Fenchurch could explain the complicated nature of the adaptational tree. "Plural" sectors, and the creatures who live in them, are areas of infinite improbability, leading to an infinite number of alternate versions of each character. Due to how space travel seems to work, its entirely possible that alternate versions of "plural" characters are created or transported randomly (or at least co-incidentally) with every hyperspace jump. Each medium (radio, book, tv, film) is its own "reality" but the characters are shuffled between the different realities with each jump, leaving readers to pick and choose which version of which character is in which universe at any given time, thus creating more alternate realities. The 2005 film is merely the "Vogon reality" created at the end of the fifth book. Also known as the "studio system".
I followed all that easily. I was at a Douglas Adams panel & asked him Which version was the hardest to write. He replied "radio, because so much has to be suggested". Always remember where your towel is & Don't Panic.
A new radio series based on 'And Another Thing...' starts on Radio 4 tomorrow, 8th March 2018 at 18.30. Forty years to the day after the first broadcast.
I've never seen the film, nor have I heard any of the radio series past the first two. I have read all of Adams' books, seen the TV series, and listened to the first two radio series before the sequels were ever made. I've had no interest in the film because I realized from the TV show that it doesn't really translate to video all that well. It's so narration heavy and A LOT of the humor comes from the Guide entries that it works best when presented via word form only. Print and audio suit it so much better.
There were also the stage play adaptations, and of course, as someone mentioned below, the computer game, which is up there with Battletoads for "hardest fucking game in human history."
On the one hand, the "Point of View" gun sounds like something Adams would right, on the other hand, he would certainly not have used it in such an obvious way.
that explains why there is hic-up between the secondary phase and the tertiary phase i love them all regardless, i listen to them all at work and in my car
Thanks for making this video explaining this adaptation because I didn't know it was this... complicated. I have only ever watched the movie. The book is in a very big pile of books I have to read!
The way things where adapted by each other, almost seems deliberate on Douglas Adams behalf. At least there is a certain symmetry and/or parallel only Zaphod could keep up with.
This was a beautiful and perfectly confusing (by which I mean that it's perfect that it's confusing) rundown of what is adapted into and from what. I had no idea that the radio show came first, well done Douglas Adams you insane genius. I'm so glad The Dom hates the movie, and I look forward to his rants about it in the next video!
The only saving grace for the film, was the cameo appearance of the original Marvin from the Television series. The TV series was what got me back into Douglas Adams books when it came out in1981.
Part of the changes to the second book were also because Douglas Adams got help from John Lloyd when writing the final three episodes of the primary phase of the radio show, using material Lloyd had for a different project. So Adams had to change it.
I only know about half of this insanity. Thanks for revealing the true level of madness behind the Hitchiker's adaptation saga. Also, REALLY looking forward to seeing you rage over that movie. Martin Freeman was the only good thing about it (though I remember liking the guy who played Ford, too).
I didn't know any of this and I used to consider myself a huge fan of the series. Now I'm going to have to track down recordings of the radio shows and gift them to the friend who lent me the first book way back when we were twelve.
I'm going to start by saying I really love your content (I honestly do. I've been binge watching your videos for the past few days now, it's getting problematic...), in hopes that it will help my cause of cajoling you to *pleeeeaaseee* do The Silence of the Lambs for a future Lost in Adaptation. ...is it working? Well, even if it isn't, I still love your stuff, and I'm gonna keep watching it
Fun fact: The movie delayed the release of Quandary to just before Quintessential. Mostly at the behest of Buena Vista and not the production company. I listened live to all but the first two weeks of Quandary over 2005 internet. I was surprised to know that there was a continuation of the radio show at the time.
1:57 Trillian's actress, Sandra Dickinson, is an American based in the UK so maybe it changed so they could cast her. She was married to the Doctor Who at the time, Peter Davison, while her daughter Georgia is married to another Doctor Who, David Tennant.
Rest in peace Douglas Adams you batshit insane genius.
🙏🏻
The Dom I still love that they published the salmon of doubt posthumously and unfinished so we will never know the ending it just seems strangely appropriate from a man who wrote about such mad and wonderful things places and characters.
I always say the first person we must resurrect from the dead via dark arts is Douglas Adams, next is obviously David Bowie.
The Dom Amen to that. kind of a shame they can't leave the franchise alone.
SuperWelsh93 what about HP Lovecraft
I would love a new story from him
involving radiation
This quote is the main reason Douglas Adams is awesome: "I love deadlines. I love the wooshing sound as the fly past ."
seems like GRRM likes it too :D
Feno 3000 yeah
Hahaha, what a guy.
Main reason as: forget Hitchhiker's Guide and all its legacy, Dirk Gentley and Last Chance To See, ... let's remember the guy by one quote?
So unpopular opinion: I have a fondness and actually enjoy the Hitchhiker movie. It's what got me into the series and I'm glad that it did because this series is my favorite book series of all damn time.
Anyways next video should be fun XD
I've only watched and loved the movie! Due to my brain injury, it's much more challenging to read novels, though I previously delighted in reading over screen adaptations... 🤷🏻♀️ Stories are the best no matter how you take them in and appreciate them! That's my current philosophy.
Am I the, only on thinks its ironic that a book that is a "guide" needs a guide to understand it.
The foreword to a lot of the compilations of the novel series was titled "A Guide to the Guide."
A Hitchhiker's Guide to a Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.
yep
Mr Adams, is that you?
It breaks my heart that Adams never got to see his final wish completed.
RIP, Doug. This universe is far less fun without your star shining in it. So long, and thanks for all the fish.
I really think they must have chosen Marten Freeman to play Bilbo Baggins because of his performance of the feature film adaptation of hhgttg. I mean they are pretty much the same character on the same arc... Minus the whole home exploding and love interest
Quick question, which word were you struggling to spell was it hitchhiker or galaxy?😂
@@T-P5 Do you know what an abbreviation is? lol
@@jacksawack6724 “gfys” figure out that abbreviation and do it you dickless nerd
It seems that you left out the LP versions of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" 1979 and "The Restaurant at the End of the Universe" 1980, which were newly recorded adaptations of the Primary Phase radio scripts, made to circumvent issues with publicly selling copies of the original Primary Phase. And while they basically used the original radio scripts, there are differences such as cast, dialogue/exchange changes, and the inclusion of Hot Black Desiato.
Also, I don't think the film is as bad as you make it out. No it's not my favorite version, I agree and I do wish that they followed the Primary Phase or book more closely, but I do love the props, sets and many of the costumes. That said, give me the Original radio play actors and scripts, and the budget and props of the new film, and I'd be happy. But we need all five original books! Thanks to Dirk Maggs we can finally have a complete series of stories at least by the original crew.
It is strange that he left out the records, perhaps he didn't know about them? Personally, I think they're better than the early radio series. And yes the film is appalling, it's as if the director, casting director and script writers didn't "get" the whole vibe of the books, radio series, TV series and records. It stinks... badly.
the movie came out in time for my Dad's 42nd [AGAIN. he turns 42 every year. and has for 20+ years :D ]
so we all tromped to the movie theater, toting towels, and we got my dad a bathrobe, which we were perfectly will to FORCE him to wear... luckily [and obviously] i come by my geeky-genes honestly, and once he was done gushing about how awesome we, as a family, are, he put it on. and wore it through the movie, and to dinner, and to the bar...
this story was as pointless as many of the random asides in Mr. Adams' books, but i hope it made you smile :)
Denelian it has. But quite why you have decided tell us this is impossible to comprehend by anyone below the level of Advanced God, who by the way came into the universe three millionths of a second after it was created, rather than, as they claim, the previous week.
😃😃😃
I'd never got to see this! Amazing job putting this together. Adams' work means so much to me. I started at the beginning in '77 or '78 when the local college radio station played the first radio serial. I feel like Douglas molded my young brain into the right shape and it's something for which I will be forever thankful. ❤️
"Life? Don't talk to me about life."
"...Loathe it or ignore it, you can't like it"
I love the book, and now I love the mess of this timeline, because it feels so like the craziness of the book. It simply perfect.
Holy shit, this is a whole new level of the matrix I was NOT prepared for. It's like trying to simultaneously solve AND disprove string theory whilst playing 3D chess
From beginning to end this video was really cool. The setup for the video was great. And the plug at the end was nice. Share the spot light Dom, paying it forward.
I highly appreciate that roadmap to the series. I own everything (even the radio show transcripts) but I I never understood the weird shift between the second and third phase. It all makes perfect sense now, thank you
I'm so excited for the lost in adaptation episode! (Is it just me or is the dom kinda adorable?)
Like a frustrated chipmunk
Florance Sweetcrest I'm excited too
Agreed, on both counts
I never said I wanted to screw him, but he is adorable (Sorry Dom)
Florance Sweetcrest Beyond adorable.
Great book. Glad you are doing a lost an adaptation about it. Thanx so much.
@The Dom - it looks like you're going to need to update this in 2018, when the Hexagonal Phase comes out on radio, based upon loosely 'And Another Thing' and other material.
I liked the explanation given in Mostly Harmless / the Quintessential Phase, that all of the stories are equally valid in the Whole Sort of General Mish Mash but that one's perception of them is defined by how one slices them. For me, the 'canon' narrative is the radio series, which I listened to before I read any of the novels. For my friend, it's the novels. It makes me happy that they found a way to make everyone equally right about this!
This is fascinating! I haven’t heard much about this since I haven’t listened to the radio shows. I’ve watched the TV shows, and I’ve read all the books, but I haven’t heard the radio shows. I need to listen to the radio shows one day.
Honestly I absolutely love the way Douglas Adams writes, and I try to use my favourite features of his writing into my own.
The hype videos that come out before the actual ones was a great idea, you get two videos on each concept, and you get higher views for the second.
That Hitchhiker's theme song makes me get all tingly inside.
I wish you could have played the text game. It was its own mash of adaptation and was supervised by DNA himself.
And was mostly based on the first book, without the last couple of chapters. With a few changes of characters (Ford was a lot less helpful) and events
Perhaps you are referring to another game, but there is a text adventure still available on the BBC website:
www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/1g84m0sXpnNCv84GpN2PLZG/the-hitchhikers-guide-to-the-galaxy-game-30th-anniversary-edition
A friend of mine had it on his computer. The pain in the ass it was just getting the Babel fish in your ear meant I never got very far since I could only play when at his house. Pre-Internet days, so walkthroughs were not easily available.
Yeah, and there's even illustrations in the same style as the Guide graphics from the TV version! (Kinda) I love it. :) And yes, I'd played it before it went up on the website.
I loved that old infocom game. Best part of it was the Tea / no Tea puzzle where you had to be carrying both in order to go through a door. and in order to do so you had to use a microscopic fleet to go into your brain and destroy your common sense.
I absolutely love your work! We've been following you for about a year now! My mind was blown when you released this because our channel just released an episode about Marvin (with comments on K2SO).
I'm so happy that you're succeeding and wish you the best of luck. Hope your move to LA goes smoothly!
Your posh RP accent is so clear that the auto-generated subtitles catch it almost perfectly.
Yes! I've been waiting for the lost in adaptation of this for a very long time.
I love TheDom's passion in these reviews. It's obvious that he loves the genre and how this series in particular makes his brain work.
There was a 6th radio series as an adaptation of 'And Another Thing', called Hexagonal Phase
That came out in 2018, a year after this video.
so glad you're doing this , I grew up on the radio series and later on the books, and am looking forward to your lost in adaptation
Excellent job, The Dom! I wouldn't have had a clue how to start on this one, but you covered it amazingly well!
You tricksy devil! I was going to save this until later, but as soon as Journey of the Sorcerer started up, I had to keep going.
Also, I want to genuinely thank you for making this. I grew up listening to the radio series (as in, you just won't believe how... many times I've heard them), and it's deeply satisfying to actually have an explanation for some of the eddies in the timeline.
Dear Dom, you are absolutely lovely. I've been bingewatching your channel and I love everything I've seen! I'm so excited for The Hitchikers Guide To The Galaxy! Don't worry, your graph made things clearer for me actually. ;) Hava a lovely day and I look forward to the next one!
The last time I was this confused was when I had one Pangalactic Gargleblaster to many. So - one.
Also - just two more weeks until Towel Day. Tell me that's no coincidence... :)
I'm surprised that nobody on Patreon has requested gone with the wind yet, that would be a good book/movie to do on this show.
trolololololl ^^.
Most people I talk to hate the movie because of how much they changed from the books. With most adaptations I would agree that that's a good enough reason to at least be weary of it, but in this case I think it should just be expected, given Adams' track record. Honestly I feel like if he had passed away earlier in production, the movie would have ended up being more 'faithful' to the 'source material', not less. As it stands, I love the movie.
...When you quoted from The Restaurant at the End of the Universe, you made me squee with joy. Hitchhiker's Guide holds a special place in my heart, and has likely influenced my views on humor and society.
I don't love the film version of HG2G but I don't hate it. It got me into the books and I think it's a decent enough version of the style of comedy that Adams wrote as well as can be nearly 3 decades in a different medium.
Also great shoutout for Rocked. You two are some of my favourite video producers!
Yay I've been wanting you to review this for a while :)
you forgot 1 adaptation, the text adventure video game., which revolves around Arthur trying to A) make marvin happy and B) get himself a cup of tea. all done through getting a bunch of fluff.
I hate to say, but the Disney adaptation is what got me into the series in the first place and I have a soft spot for it. I'm happy to see you do a lost in adaptation of it and I have acknowledged that it's bad. But I feel it had some good elements....
I believe Douglas Adams didn't consider any version of the story to be final or "canon", but enjoyed making the constant changes. As such, I don't know if Adams would have liked the movie, but I have a feeling he wouldn't dislike it as much as Dom appears to. I actually enjoyed it, so I'm interested to hear Dom's points in his discussion about it. My introduction to the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy was the original TV show, and then the novel, so I think as long as a new listener/reader/watcher already knows how much the stories diverge from themselves, they should be fine with almost any interpretation.
Yeah, while the movie might be the weakest, it was the one that got me into Hitchhiker's Guide, so I'm really glad it existed.
Yay the radio theme
Matthew Pearson The song is Journey of the Sorcerer by The Eagles.
And now I know.
Nitro Indigo And knowing is half the battle.
Matthew Pearson it was also the theme for the tv series
@@alyxwold4974 True but a different arrangement.
Ooh, must pay this one closer attention later, it intrigues me! (I’m liking + commenting immediately in an effort to maximize my support for something sabotaged against the algorithm)
All I can say Is thank you, I just found the radio show on youtube, a few minutes in and I know ill be binging the whole damn thing
I'm so looking forward to hearing you talk about the film! :D Maybe I have to face the truth that I'm one of those fans that likes to see reviewers suffer.
I'm also loving the promotion of other channels at the end of your videos now. Going to go check out Rocked and I'm excited to see what other hidden treasures you'll recommend next!
Very clear explanation of the different versions. Thank you.
I understood everything when you first explained it - and english isn't my mother tongue.
You did a great job with that timeline! I'm looking forward to the episode!
3:08-3:48 That reminds me of when 'First Blood' author David Morrell wrote novelisations of the films Rambo 2+3 where he added an introduction saying [spoiler] 'In my novel Rambo dies, in the movie he lives' and then followed the film continuity [particularly regarding Rambo-Colonel Trautman's relationship].
Wow, Dom. You had me right until the end. The H2G2 movie was pretty damn good. And you can't blame it for changing things, when the whole POINT of your flowchart-style analysis was pointing out how Mr. Adams was perfectly fine with changes.
so I was watching this episode having seen the Hitchhikers Guide film ages and ages ago, thinking "Oh I see what you mean, so the film would have been in the spirit of the idea of adapting the previous material but changing things to keep things varied", but then that ending! I'm very excited to hear your thoughts on the film.
im so pleased youre doing this, hhg is my favorite book
Love the use of the Mini-Series theme! good work as always. Can't wait to see the LIA for the movie
Don’t forget towels. The most useful thing a hitchhiker can have.
its also great that its all over the place.. because its like the whole thing is a shared memory or a shared fever dream. everyone remembering it slightly differently and everyone remembering bits someone else didn't remember.
After the intro here, I would pay to have an audio book of this series read by the Dom.
The film would certainly have had Douglas Adams spinning in his grave and he is still spinning as it made a lot of people angry and is generally considered to be a bad move.
For me, the radio series will always be the best! So damn good!
This is awesome... I was born in the late 90s and my first experience with Hitchhiker's was the movie and at the time I didn't know about the books or radio versions or the TV show... one of my all time favorite movies and apparently I have some reading to do!!
The casting and writing of Trillian in the series was so weird considering in the first book she's even described as dark skinned. I always felt Mostly Harmless also left things far more open and un-rounded than So Long and Thanks For All The Fish did, since that book actually had a fairly satisfying ending and really only left one small detail about Agrajag unresolved.
i grew up listening to the audio books of: the hobbit, hitchhikers guide, restaurant at the end of the universe, old radio drama's like "the shadow" and a mix of dean koontz and Stephen king books among other things. (and that's not counting what read as a kid, some of witch are in the audio list) the dom talking about one of the series that I learned some of my most important life rules from is gunna be bloody brilliant!
And all this is perfectly fitting of and for The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.
Nicely done, The Dom. I've personally read the scripts to the first two series of the radio shows, but have never actually heard them. I should get on that.
This is a hoopy frood of a video!!! Absolutely drop dead gorgeous :D
Aw man, those opening notes of Journey of the Sorcerer give me the feels every time
I've been waiting for this!
YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW EXITED I AM FOR THIS!
another great episode. thank you!
I don't think the movie was that bad; I consider it more of a tribute to Adams' work rather than an adaptation of the first book/radio series. So most of the story was vastly different; but if you did faithfully adapt it without any changes, would it be as good as the original(s)?
And like you said, Adams was fine with adaptations being different for the sake of variety.
The tv series was super faithful and it nailed it. So yes, they absolutely could have stayed true to it and been as good, just with updated effects.
The film also had a few plot points added that were written by Adams himself, which further complicates things.
robbybevard, not necessarily in a movie. Movies have entirely different rhythms to TV shows, not to mention shorter time.
The tv miniseries that covered the first book was 3 episodes. 90 minutes long. The entire thing was 180 minutes, just under 3 hours. With some cuts (recaps and book entries mostly) it could have easily fit the typical 2 hour+ run time of a movie without any real problem.
I love the video dude plus the radio show and the book is awesome.
Imagine how much MORE complicated this video would be if it included the video game, the towels, the differences between the LP and the original radio series, and the minor changes to the Illustrated edition, and the various location-based adjustments, etc.
*@The Dom* -- The events surrounding the character Fenchurch could explain the complicated nature of the adaptational tree. "Plural" sectors, and the creatures who live in them, are areas of infinite improbability, leading to an infinite number of alternate versions of each character. Due to how space travel seems to work, its entirely possible that alternate versions of "plural" characters are created or transported randomly (or at least co-incidentally) with every hyperspace jump. Each medium (radio, book, tv, film) is its own "reality" but the characters are shuffled between the different realities with each jump, leaving readers to pick and choose which version of which character is in which universe at any given time, thus creating more alternate realities.
The 2005 film is merely the "Vogon reality" created at the end of the fifth book. Also known as the "studio system".
I followed all that easily. I was at a Douglas Adams panel & asked him Which version was the hardest to write. He replied "radio, because so much has to be suggested". Always remember where your towel is & Don't Panic.
Man, I haven't seen The Dom this pissed since 50 shades
A new radio series based on 'And Another Thing...' starts on Radio 4 tomorrow, 8th March 2018 at 18.30. Forty years to the day after the first broadcast.
I've never seen the film, nor have I heard any of the radio series past the first two. I have read all of Adams' books, seen the TV series, and listened to the first two radio series before the sequels were ever made.
I've had no interest in the film because I realized from the TV show that it doesn't really translate to video all that well. It's so narration heavy and A LOT of the humor comes from the Guide entries that it works best when presented via word form only. Print and audio suit it so much better.
Warms my heart to hear him hate on the film.
this was really interesting
The unfinished book/prequel/dirk gently book is actually the salmon of doubt
the late 70s radio program was THE BEST
i hear those opening strings and i get excited!
Adams changed the timeline with every reinvention. An amazing talent... sorely missed.
There were also the stage play adaptations, and of course, as someone mentioned below, the computer game, which is up there with Battletoads for "hardest fucking game in human history."
And now we've had The Hexagonal Phase on BBC Radio... based on And Another Thing.
On the one hand, the "Point of View" gun sounds like something Adams would right, on the other hand, he would certainly not have used it in such an obvious way.
that explains why there is hic-up between the secondary phase and the tertiary phase
i love them all regardless, i listen to them all at work and in my car
Thanks for making this video explaining this adaptation because I didn't know it was this... complicated. I have only ever watched the movie. The book is in a very big pile of books I have to read!
My god, that music brings up so many memories
The way things where adapted by each other, almost seems deliberate on Douglas Adams behalf. At least there is a certain symmetry and/or parallel only Zaphod could keep up with.
This was a beautiful and perfectly confusing (by which I mean that it's perfect that it's confusing) rundown of what is adapted into and from what. I had no idea that the radio show came first, well done Douglas Adams you insane genius.
I'm so glad The Dom hates the movie, and I look forward to his rants about it in the next video!
The only saving grace for the film, was the cameo appearance of the original Marvin from the Television series. The TV series was what got me back into Douglas Adams books when it came out in1981.
Part of the changes to the second book were also because Douglas Adams got help from John Lloyd when writing the final three episodes of the primary phase of the radio show, using material Lloyd had for a different project. So Adams had to change it.
this should be good, i had no idea of how complex the adaptations had been.. had to listen to this multiple times to get a good grasp
I actually enjoy the movie. It's not the best that it could be, but it's a bit of fun for an afternoon.
Converted between book and radio and tv... AND RIDICULOUSLY HARD TEXT GAME!!
I only know about half of this insanity. Thanks for revealing the true level of madness behind the Hitchiker's adaptation saga.
Also, REALLY looking forward to seeing you rage over that movie. Martin Freeman was the only good thing about it (though I remember liking the guy who played Ford, too).
That intro was incredible
I didn't know any of this and I used to consider myself a huge fan of the series. Now I'm going to have to track down recordings of the radio shows and gift them to the friend who lent me the first book way back when we were twelve.
I'm going to start by saying I really love your content (I honestly do. I've been binge watching your videos for the past few days now, it's getting problematic...), in hopes that it will help my cause of cajoling you to *pleeeeaaseee* do The Silence of the Lambs for a future Lost in Adaptation.
...is it working?
Well, even if it isn't, I still love your stuff, and I'm gonna keep watching it
You earned your money on this one, Dom!
Fun fact: The movie delayed the release of Quandary to just before Quintessential. Mostly at the behest of Buena Vista and not the production company. I listened live to all but the first two weeks of Quandary over 2005 internet. I was surprised to know that there was a continuation of the radio show at the time.
I love your thesis to Douglas Adams, but why did you exclude "Young Zephod Plays It Safe"? Just curious.
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Only in the compilation, couldn't get it on it's own. Then there's "liff". And there was another radio show as well.
And the hexagonal phase...? Hmm.. This is getting complicated. Loved the video!
1:57 Trillian's actress, Sandra Dickinson, is an American based in the UK so maybe it changed so they could cast her. She was married to the Doctor Who at the time, Peter Davison, while her daughter Georgia is married to another Doctor Who, David Tennant.