How Stoicism Can Change The Way We Think About Money - ft. Ryan Holiday | Prof G Markets

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  • Опубліковано 30 чер 2024
  • This week on Prof G Markets, Ryan Holiday, one of the world’s foremost philosophers of the modern era, joins the show to talk about how stoicism can improve our perspective on money. He discusses how to handle wins and losses in every situation and why limiting your options can lead to better decisions. He also advises on some healthy habits that can help improve your financial responsibility.
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    Timestamps:
    00:00 - Today's number
    00:18 - Today's episode
    02:01 - Headlines
    16:25 - Ad break
    16:28 - How Stoicism Can Change The Way We Think About Money - ft. Ryan Holiday
    16:36 - What is stoicism and where does it come from?
    17:35 - What is the story about shipwreck?
    18:30 - How does stoicism help when it comes to thinking about money?
    20:41 - Explain the four virtues, particularly their relationship to our understanding with money
    22:38 - How can we practice the virtue of justice within a capitalist society?
    25:05 - Explain justice as holding the line in relation to spending and saving
    27:41 - Do stoics value money?
    28:57 - How can early-career professionals stay balanced through wins and losses?
    30:54 - What are your healthy habits in terms of money?
    32:12 - What strategies can successful individuals in their early 20s use to stay responsible and secure their future?
    35:16 - What would Marcus Aurelius criticize most about our society today?
    36:31 - What would Marcus Aurelius think of social media, particularly Facebook?
    38:47 - What advice can you share for building a career around passions and achieving economic security?
    41:31 - How do you deal with criticism and feedback?
    44:28 - Algebra of Wealth
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  • @MiladBerg
    @MiladBerg День тому +236

    Creating wealth and gaining financial freedom isn’t as difficult as lots of people think. Through the right information, building wealth and staying financially stable forever is way easy. Investing is the only true way to earn a great income and staying wealthy forever..

    • @TristanPlourde
      @TristanPlourde День тому +3

      Now is the right time. If you really want to grow your money and attain financial independence. Start investing, that's the best way to accumulate wealth. Spent my 25s and 40s investing in stock and several multifamily real estates. That’s the best I did for myself as it has consistently beaten my expectations of a return.

    • @ZoeTanguay
      @ZoeTanguay День тому

      Could you provide us with guidance on current optimal investment options? I'm thinking about investing in cryptocurrencies.

    • @RutherfordPrange726
      @RutherfordPrange726 День тому +5

      HALVING is also almost a good time. Buy low, sell high. Daily prices are not as significant as buying and selling during accumulation and distribution right now because we are in an accumulation phase. Before the halving, enter the market slowly, then sit back and relax while your bags are transported. Or just get a licensed investment advisor, your investment is even safer that way if you really don't know where to look.

    • @TristanPlourde
      @TristanPlourde День тому

      ​@@ZoeTanguay To be successful in the markets, traders must understand the intersection between asset classes and liquidity flow. Susan Thompson focuses on multi-asset trading, a unique strategy for managing risk, profits, and actual code or decision making across multiple asset classes. Her skill set is top notch

    • @OfeliaN.Vannest
      @OfeliaN.Vannest День тому

      @@TristanPlourde *Susan Clare Thompson* , the FINRA licensed ? By any chance, are you talking about the same person?

  • @christophege3746
    @christophege3746 2 дні тому +1

    "I've never been qualified to do anything I've ever done" love that line...thanks!

  • @EdgarVerona
    @EdgarVerona 3 години тому

    "I don't care if I CAN do this, it is wrong so I WILL NOT do this"
    Yeah, we definitely need more of that.

  • @tombesson7293
    @tombesson7293 3 дні тому +4

    Ryan Holiday's definition of Stoicism reminded me of the tale of Lazarus from the beginning of the movie "Oh Brother, Where Art Thou?". Lazarus says, "You shall seek a fortune, and you shall find a fortune, but the fortune you find is not the one you seek." I think the modern day counterpart to that bit of wisdom is, "Don't look a gift horse in the mouth."

  • @yamuiemata
    @yamuiemata 3 дні тому +7

    Why Scott's beard looks like the grooming machine had no battery halfway through 😂

  • @shakthidhasan4544
    @shakthidhasan4544 3 дні тому +3

    I love how ProfG has has to premise his opening joke with 'true story Ed....'😂❤

    • @Mary-Mar
      @Mary-Mar День тому

      Ed "True Story, Ed" Elson 😂

  • @waynelondon9776
    @waynelondon9776 3 дні тому +4

    Loved the guest today with Ryan Holiday and the great questions from Ed and Scott. Another great episode by Prof G media.

  • @thatplantguy
    @thatplantguy День тому +1

    In New Zealand, the average price of houses is north of NZ$900,000, but the average individual income is around NZ$75,000. If people don’t have family support for a deposit, they can’t afford housing. It’s like chasing a rainbow. I feel for young people. It’s demoralizing.

  • @d279020
    @d279020 2 дні тому

    Technically speaking Llama is "open weights" meaning anyone can use (with restrictions). "Open source" would require them to provide the source code and training data that you can (with sufficient compute) reproduce.

  • @pirotrav
    @pirotrav 3 дні тому

    The drug analogies and self agggrandizing are indeed the two primary reasons I come to the PROF! Cant get it anywhere else. And then occasionally take a tidbit like buying the news of salesforce and turn it into 10 percent 😀

  • @hudooguru2
    @hudooguru2 3 дні тому

    Still laughing over the dog joke. I love this show.

  • @waynelondon9776
    @waynelondon9776 3 дні тому

    The other phenomenon that is now occurring is the commandeering of housing supply by huge investment firms that is bidding up home prices and rents in addition to a restricted supply. Get rid of the local red tape, provide some incentive for this to happen through infrastructure support for water and waste treatment, roads etc and this may also take some inflationary pressure off. The problem is truly a crisis and adding to growing public discontent.

  • @jannichi6431
    @jannichi6431 3 дні тому +1

    Didn't the markets react the same to 'Cloud'? Before that the 'internet and chips'. Shiny new objects basically held up long term💎

  • @ZoffPhx
    @ZoffPhx 3 дні тому

    Hey Scott love your stuff. Headed to Marleyborne next Saturday any places you would recommend. Cheers

  • @minhhoang1192
    @minhhoang1192 3 дні тому

    Good guest today.

  • @imagochristus
    @imagochristus 3 дні тому

    virtue above all!

  • @howtoactuallyinvest
    @howtoactuallyinvest 3 дні тому +11

    Lol I love how butthurt Scott is over Elon and how Ed just backs him up cause he's his boss. Emotional 😂

    • @bondi5000
      @bondi5000 3 дні тому

      Well that’s your perspective on the matter at least. Let me guess… you’re an Elon fanboy?

    • @howtoactuallyinvest
      @howtoactuallyinvest 3 дні тому +6

      @@bondi5000 I'm a fan of disrupting space exploration w rockets that land and vehicles that will be capable of going to Mars, disrupting fossil fuels, trying to save millions of lives w autonomous driving, helping quadriplegics have quality of life again and potentially be able to walk again, etc vs marketing companies like Scott has worked on. Diff stratosphere. Anyone who thinks differently is small minded or refuses to see reality for what it is because it's easier to call someone a fanboy and go w the popular crowd. Real investors/founders know the diff between the caliber of entrepreneurs they are. I'm not a Scott hater either and really like Ed. I'm just saying... Ppl need to know when to stay in their lane

    • @dholmes1330
      @dholmes1330 3 дні тому +1

      @@bondi5000what’s wrong with Elon? The guys seems to be trying to make a better world.

    • @dholmes1330
      @dholmes1330 3 дні тому

      Betas

  • @yanikq
    @yanikq 3 дні тому +6

    What about 4 years spent in a hospital taught me was that:
    "Philosophy was making sport of boredom".

    • @yanikq
      @yanikq 3 дні тому +1

      Came back to the episodes to share the realization that if China was to attempt an invasion of Taiwan (the place that makes 90+% of the chips that AI depends).
      What then will be the outsized effect on the us stock market?
      😳

  • @thiagomassa9807
    @thiagomassa9807 3 дні тому

    Scott is wrong about saying that those different AI companies could be sold for any value. Once a model is trained, it is trained. It's pointless to buy a company with a model and try to change it.
    So the loser actually is worthless, no point on buying it. Talents can just be shuffled between winners (if any), that's all.

  • @donaldjohnson-ow3kq
    @donaldjohnson-ow3kq 3 дні тому

    I don't think most people care about supply and demand of homes once they buy one. They just don't want new houses suddenly popping up 10 feet away from their house. Most of us didn't want to buy a home just to have people living almost as close as they were in an apartment building.

    • @jannichi6431
      @jannichi6431 3 дні тому +1

      If they have younger relatives, they often get asked for housing help. Down payment, spare room, etc. All boats rise democratic concept. 🌊

    • @kyleolson9636
      @kyleolson9636 День тому

      That doesn't happen. As long as you didn't choose to build a house that goes to the edge of your property line, no one is going to build a house 10 ft from yours.

    • @donaldjohnson-ow3kq
      @donaldjohnson-ow3kq День тому

      @@jannichi6431 I don't really like boats

  • @jannichi6431
    @jannichi6431 3 дні тому

    Adore the licky licky pet joke. It's a joke Thursday ("debate") after hearing quite a few on "Handsome" podcast. 'Covering' that department too guys!

  • @LeveragedFinance
    @LeveragedFinance 3 дні тому +2

    Houses are only affordable if you don't have to live near major cities

    • @Rnankn
      @Rnankn 3 дні тому +1

      Living is affordable if you don’t have to eat, or breathe.

    • @dongamb3823
      @dongamb3823 3 дні тому +2

      But that is where the big salaries are

    • @pkal244
      @pkal244 3 дні тому

      I could live in rural areas or the far out suburbs where the big excitement of the month is heading to the local strip mall but I'd rather be within commuting distance to a city.

    • @jannichi6431
      @jannichi6431 3 дні тому

      Airport important. Cosmo feel is important.to young/singles. The FOOD!

  • @kyleinpa5285
    @kyleinpa5285 3 дні тому +6

    2024 “If you take out A.I.”
    2023 “If you take out Mag 7”
    2021 “If you take out Energy”
    Words of the butthurt active managers who constantly underperform the S&P 500 Index

    • @howtoactuallyinvest
      @howtoactuallyinvest 3 дні тому +2

      Pro-tip: Invest in the things they "take out"

    • @jimbojimbo6873
      @jimbojimbo6873 3 дні тому

      This is a fallacy though, you can’t just dismiss every criticism because it’s associated with people that have lost
      That’s moronic, if someone’s point is valuid, listen to it and don’t dismiss due to some ad hom bias you have.

    • @kyleinpa5285
      @kyleinpa5285 3 дні тому

      @@jimbojimbo6873 if the criticism is coming from someone who makes money off of talking people out of buying the thing that they don’t make money on, then you can absolutely ignore their criticism, because you can’t trust it.

  • @jannichi6431
    @jannichi6431 3 дні тому

    Canada is complaining about median income being about $65k under Trudeau. He's doing better than US at about $43k. From what I read.

    • @quinndombroskie4528
      @quinndombroskie4528 3 дні тому

      USD is worth almost twice the CAD. 43k USD is worth significantly more than 65k CAD

  • @LanceWinston
    @LanceWinston 3 дні тому +2

    Production note: if you say "hey google" live on the air, it will interrupt me listening in my truck on the way home from work. I'm not mad just saying ....

  • @donmurray5860
    @donmurray5860 День тому

    jumping on this stream as its the latest
    trying to bring you back to Elon
    kinda love your show and love Elon
    seen your uncle state his case
    i call bullshit and explain to me if you were a shareholder how you would be disgusted
    use a bullshit argument or be a shareholder
    your Uncle isnt a builder of value, just a boy complaining that you respect,
    convince me
    cause Elon bad, getting boring....go young Brit..we just chatting

  • @TrendyStone
    @TrendyStone 3 дні тому +2

    An environmentalist is someone that already has their cabin in the woods and doesn’t want neighbors.

  • @bennisim7949
    @bennisim7949 2 дні тому

    Why so much hate for Elon ?

  • @lomotil3370
    @lomotil3370 3 дні тому

    Make Homes Happen Again!

  • @MrJamesknot
    @MrJamesknot 3 дні тому

    Scott and Ryan,
    You have an opportunity to platform a candidate that is a practicing stoic.
    Scott you declined and Ryan you may not agree with his policies.
    Have courage and invite RFK JR to your podcasts.
    Challenge his stoicism.
    Have courage and justice.

  • @dholmes1330
    @dholmes1330 3 дні тому

    Trump 2024!!

  • @danielcaesar4069
    @danielcaesar4069 2 дні тому

    Do an episode with @garyseconomics - you’d feed off each other in an inequality convo

  • @bass-xl5nh
    @bass-xl5nh 3 дні тому

    There's something about finding weapons AND attachments that makes the gameplay feel so much more impactful and just forces you to play strengths you otherwise would avoid. 👄😻👅