It would be interesting to hear more about the Rizzuto/Montreal split from the Bonnano's. How it happened and other details would be a great show. It really hasn't been covered much from what I know. Thanks for putting the podcast on UA-cam it's great
I couldn’t pick Bonanno in that poll, because he was never a real “Boss” in Tucson. He was a deposed NY boss in exile, who continued to claim he was the legitimate boss of the Bonanno Family (which was not recognised), not the Boss of a Tucson Family. You can’t compare that to the likes of Trafficante or Marcelo in the Sun Belt.
SCOTT, Any chance you could still write the book on old man Zerilli despite him no longer being with us? I’m sure with you having a relationship in that point of his life(I’m sure he was a chatty senior citizen) that you would have a ton of great information that he shared. I mean the guys Father was a Founding Father of US LCN, he married into the Profaci/Columbo Family and Tony Z was one of the first ‘Made guy’ to be operating in Vegas! Tons and Tons of fascinating stuff!
I can't speak for Scott, but my understanding is some members of the family are opposed to the book coming out. That did not matter when Tony Z was alive. Things are more complicated now. But only Scott knows for sure. He's not big social media guy, but I'll try to get him to jump in here.
Trafficante and Marcello are two nobodies compared to Bonanno. His life in the Mafia is an epic story. The other two were boring as hell. The admiration shown to Trafficante in the Donnie Brasco film is silly. The "Sun Belt" Mafia Families are boring, unless you are excited and fascinated with routine business deals and the like. Bonanno TOWERS over these guys. Even in exile in Arizona his life continued to be interesting. I think of Dallas, New Orleans and Tampa and take a nap. The books and documentaries on Marcello and Trafficante are boring. It is impossible to read or watch them from start to finish.
I'm goin All Out on this 🤡. I've read some idiotic comments and statements on youtube but u sir, n I don't like surmising about people's ages, but u must be really young or really stupid. Or maybe u jus think everythin u say is correct. We kin all have an opinion of our own but Carlos Marcello and Trafficante.snr and .jnr were so ahead of Bonanno in everyway. A Boss is a Boss. Do u really think a guy 💯% to that life, with old school values like, Sonny Black, a Capo, would not show respect and deference to Santo Trafficante and that Santo n Carlos were nobody's is a stunning piece of...I've not got words it's outrageous!! Bonanno was put in his fnckin place and his Co conspirators, Magglioco, Ballon head Bill Bonanno n whoever else shoulda been dispatched. Bananno had to go on run fake a kidnapping n such, while Marcello and others imv and imo anyway, allegedly, 😂😂😂 were offing the Leader of the free world. Get learning mate, cos what u wrote isn't even an opinion. Its blatantly obvious u young still learning or an uneducated adult. Terrible. Just Terrible.
I would love to see something on the LA Family. And I hate that “Mickey Mouse Mafia” phrase. It’s some History Channel bullshit. They were rightly feared and respected. It would be interesting to break down their relations with NY though, and what Bugsy Siegel was doing there. To what extent could he claim rackets on behalf of NY given there was a recognised Family on the territory? I refuse to believe the NY bosses would allow even a most respected non-member to strike, or even heavily disrespect, a recognised Cosa Nostra boss. That is ridiculous. But how did it work?
I’ve always been fascinated with the mob. I worked in the pharmacy with a pharmacist my dads age in central Illinois who is a completely legitimate guy named Tocco from Detroit. He’s in his 70s now but his grandfather or uncle was Jack and his cousin is Nove Tocco. He’s a really funny guy we used to prank people and I’d cook him sausage and peppers as I went to culinary school before pharmacy. He actually showed me the Rinaldi fennel sausage from Detroit which I have used ever since. Also, have you guys ever done anything on the Rockford IL mob? From what I understand the Zammutos were always rock solid and a big part of the Pizza connection heroin ring. I heard there was an influx of young Sicilians in the 60s and 70s that could have sustained the family for some time after. I got interested in them after learning about Tony Musso when I went to school in Madison Wi. I believe Madison had the smallest LCN family in the states and Peter Caputo ran it. His name is still on lots of buildings in downtown Madison which was interesting to me. Anyway great show sorry for the rambling comment
Also who was Sally Daz capo or solider? Why aren’t they providing him protection? What crew was he with in the bronx? Maybe he was not with a crew anymore.
Good show..You should have the ladies on from Doubledeal podcast(on youtube)about the NewEngland mafia/Winter Hill Gang and other Interesting criminals. They go from 1930's to 2000. .
Who was Sally D paying at the time? Was he paying Bonannos? Regarding funeral...I have same feeling but if they are shelved, are they not still part of family in some way (thinking like Ernie Grillo that was shelved but came back)? I think Mancuso is a complete fuckup as Boss.
On the FBI chart from the Valachi Hearings in 1963, Dallas is listed as a recognised Family under Joseph Civella. They could have got it wrong, but that’s unlikely. I think Dallas was an official family back in the day.
Dallas was a family for a handful of decades- they were founded in the teens and were most prominent under Civello. In my opinion and what I’ve read Civello ran that family independently from 1956 to when he died in 1970. After which it wouldn’t be unlikely to assume that Carlos Marcello took over after that and ran Dallas as a satellite branch of his own organization- with an acting administration in place to operate their local rackets and whatever assistance Marcello needed in New Orleans.
I'd go with Tocco's. They still run like Philly, all relatives or childhood friends. You only ever hear about somebody thats connected gettin jammed up once every several And nobody rats.
In my opinion- it’s almost best nowadays to have a boss already in prison. Takes a lot of heat off the family and allows whatever acting administration they have in place to run the family in the meantime. Federal prosecutors like big headlines to push their careers along up the ladder. Only way to achieve big headlines is with big arrests. The biggest arrest you can make is a boss of a crime family. If that person is already in jail it’s not as enticing for the government to go after them and everyone under them.
@@blksheep176 😂 that’s a great point. I never thought of that. It would be interesting to know how much money Vic Amuso is still getting nowadays. John Pennisi spoke on his show a couple times and mentioned that his immediate family and home are all taken care of financially. I would be interested to know the exact number tho.
I've still yet to hear which mc this was. Ive heard it wasn't a 1% club. Seems crazy that just a regular mc wouldn't be worried about putting hands on made guys. Shows how far the mob has come really
But here’s the thing Scott, Daz probably wasn’t kicking up to Mancuso. Like you said, he may have been with Basciano but maybe Mancuso didn’t trust or care about Daz so what’s the point if he is not kicking tribute? Regardless of what he did in the past that was with the old boss..if he was paying tribute then yeah he should have been protected by again, it was his son.
My opinion is the reason why Mikey Nose didn’t respond you talking on the prison phone I’m surprised Vinny gorgeous knows the phones Monitor the right thing to do is pay no attention to the phone call
Today is 10/05/22 I read something on the daily news the first guy who attempted to get Sally I got killed his name is Giovanni It said someone got to him first
@@michaelbux5469 screw all of them They need the electric chair How dare you kill your Dad over his own earnings. Plus he took care of all his children. Gave them a living inheritance over 10 years ago. All of them never need to come home. Quite sure he could have been made probably didn't want too. Had no problem paying tribute. Imagine taking care of your family with all the money they would ever need and your Pile of 💩 son gets you killed. Now all them dirtbombs have are bad thinking regrets. Good for all of them. His namesake is a good kid. I wish him the best.
Great podcast, but i disagree with what you said about New Orleans having 50 members in the 60’s. By 1969, Joe Colombo said that they only had 5 members left. The FBI had a list of 20 suspected members, so I doubt that they got all those right let alone don’t know 30 people.
Hey Scott I lived in Vegas during the 70 and 80s I knew a family from NY that were mancuso and I'm positive they we're connected every thing that they did from a couple guys always around. Just curious
Mikey Nose cant be too sharp, all he had to do was step in for Sally Daz and than he coulda got his hooks into him and started shakin him down for big money too
Being from Indiana and being into the mob stuff for 15 years now I would say Chicago and Detroit that and my grandpa used to race Greyhounds underground Greyhound races and take me with him to places like Kansas City up in Michigan other places in Illinois pretty wild times
@@DAC666 man it is. It can get crazy out there all those guys out there in the middle of the woods with all that cash and guns and the dogs are some of the bigger ones it's a one stop shop. You could borrow money place a bet buy your d*pe of any kind for you or your dog you can even pay for Pu$$y.
So i thought if i was in the street doing my busness, i pay protection to do my thing hastle free cus they run that part of town im doing busness in. In reallity its only who im paying the money to.
It would be interesting to hear more about the Rizzuto/Montreal split from the Bonnano's. How it happened and other details would be a great show. It really hasn't been covered much from what I know. Thanks for putting the podcast on UA-cam it's great
I couldn’t pick Bonanno in that poll, because he was never a real “Boss” in Tucson. He was a deposed NY boss in exile, who continued to claim he was the legitimate boss of the Bonanno Family (which was not recognised), not the Boss of a Tucson Family. You can’t compare that to the likes of Trafficante or Marcelo in the Sun Belt.
My favorite podcast ! Glad your back on You Tube 🇬🇧
I love how when either Scott or Jimmy say hit the siren, there is no siren sound. I cant thank you enough for that.
please keep making these. I always wondered why scott didn't have his own youtube show
Another great bone. Thanks guys
Thanks again now from Bolton Ontario Canada 🇨🇦.
So happy so happy we got real people on this UA-cam I’m sick and tired of Lee cole /Convic inc / Jimmy Calandra/ John alite /Tony sofol/ John Mac /
Can you maybe do a podcast of the crime family in Cincinnati? Savino now formerly Provinzano?
Saviano
Come on
Great show again ,thanks!
This channel needs more likes, and subscribers. This one of the more Interesting channels on UA-cam.
Thank you!!
I saw that clip of Tony Jack coming out of the courthouse LOL
SCOTT,
Any chance you could still write the book on old man Zerilli despite him no longer being with us?
I’m sure with you having a relationship in that point of his life(I’m sure he was a chatty senior citizen) that you would have a ton of great information that he shared.
I mean the guys Father was a Founding Father of US LCN, he married into the Profaci/Columbo Family and Tony Z was one of the first ‘Made guy’ to be operating in Vegas! Tons and Tons of fascinating stuff!
I can't speak for Scott, but my understanding is some members of the family are opposed to the book coming out. That did not matter when Tony Z was alive. Things are more complicated now. But only Scott knows for sure. He's not big social media guy, but I'll try to get him to jump in here.
@@originalgangsterspod Thanks Jimmy!
Keep up all the great work!
Yes please do episode on LA LCN. Thank you. Scott and Jimmy you guys rule.
Thank you!
Trafficante and Marcello are two nobodies compared to Bonanno. His life in the Mafia is an epic story. The other two were boring as hell. The admiration shown to Trafficante in the Donnie Brasco film is silly. The "Sun Belt" Mafia Families are boring, unless you are excited and fascinated with routine business deals and the like. Bonanno TOWERS over these guys. Even in exile in Arizona his life continued to be interesting. I think of Dallas, New Orleans and Tampa and take a nap. The books and documentaries on Marcello and Trafficante are boring. It is impossible to read or watch them from start to finish.
I'm goin All Out on this 🤡.
I've read some idiotic comments and statements on youtube but u sir, n I don't like surmising about people's ages, but u must be really young or really stupid. Or maybe u jus think everythin u say is correct. We kin all have an opinion of our own but Carlos Marcello and Trafficante.snr and .jnr were so ahead of Bonanno in everyway. A Boss is a Boss. Do u really think a guy 💯% to that life, with old school values like, Sonny Black, a Capo, would not show respect and deference to Santo Trafficante and that Santo n Carlos were nobody's is a stunning piece of...I've not got words it's outrageous!! Bonanno was put in his fnckin place and his Co conspirators, Magglioco, Ballon head Bill Bonanno n whoever else shoulda been dispatched. Bananno had to go on run fake a kidnapping n such, while Marcello and others imv and imo anyway, allegedly, 😂😂😂 were offing the Leader of the free world. Get learning mate, cos what u wrote isn't even an opinion. Its blatantly obvious u young still learning or an uneducated adult. Terrible. Just Terrible.
31:28 the protocol is if your paying.. You should have protection from any other underworld person / crews PERIOD.
Like sands through the hourglass, so are the Days of the Bruno Crime Family. 😂
Any time Scott does something...I will be listening. LA would be interesting.
Do we have Vinny B on Audio about how felt after about this ? And how Mikey did nothing .
RIP Sally Daz
Good Family Man
Didn't deserve it
Detroit is the best.
Keep hitting out of the park !
Thank you Mr. Big, aka Double M!!
I would love to see something on the LA Family. And I hate that “Mickey Mouse Mafia” phrase. It’s some History Channel bullshit. They were rightly feared and respected. It would be interesting to break down their relations with NY though, and what Bugsy Siegel was doing there. To what extent could he claim rackets on behalf of NY given there was a recognised Family on the territory? I refuse to believe the NY bosses would allow even a most respected non-member to strike, or even heavily disrespect, a recognised Cosa Nostra boss. That is ridiculous. But how did it work?
Grazij per il video! Salutamu
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I’ve always been fascinated with the mob. I worked in the pharmacy with a pharmacist my dads age in central Illinois who is a completely legitimate guy named Tocco from Detroit. He’s in his 70s now but his grandfather or uncle was Jack and his cousin is Nove Tocco. He’s a really funny guy we used to prank people and I’d cook him sausage and peppers as I went to culinary school before pharmacy. He actually showed me the Rinaldi fennel sausage from Detroit which I have used ever since. Also, have you guys ever done anything on the Rockford IL mob? From what I understand the Zammutos were always rock solid and a big part of the Pizza connection heroin ring. I heard there was an influx of young Sicilians in the 60s and 70s that could have sustained the family for some time after. I got interested in them after learning about Tony Musso when I went to school in Madison Wi. I believe Madison had the smallest LCN family in the states and Peter Caputo ran it. His name is still on lots of buildings in downtown Madison which was interesting to me. Anyway great show sorry for the rambling comment
You Should do a Show about this Stuff Sounds so interesting cause i want to know More about the Real small Mob Families with around 10 to 15 Guys
I heard the Hells Angels beat them up good. Like the reverse of the bar scene in a Bronx Tale
Also who was Sally Daz capo or solider? Why aren’t they providing him protection? What crew was he with in the bronx? Maybe he was not with a crew anymore.
He was with a bronx crew as an associate (bascianos)
Sally Das was a stand up guy not a Capo or a solider
Good show..You should have the ladies on from Doubledeal podcast(on youtube)about the NewEngland mafia/Winter Hill Gang and other Interesting criminals. They go from 1930's to 2000.
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Who was Sally D paying at the time? Was he paying Bonannos? Regarding funeral...I have same feeling but if they are shelved, are they not still part of family in some way (thinking like Ernie Grillo that was shelved but came back)? I think Mancuso is a complete fuckup as Boss.
you guys should come to the Bronx and have your show here.. since you know so much and have allot to say, we welcome you :)
On the FBI chart from the Valachi Hearings in 1963, Dallas is listed as a recognised Family under Joseph Civella. They could have got it wrong, but that’s unlikely. I think Dallas was an official family back in the day.
Dallas was a family for a handful of decades- they were founded in the teens and were most prominent under Civello. In my opinion and what I’ve read Civello ran that family independently from 1956 to when he died in 1970. After which it wouldn’t be unlikely to assume that Carlos Marcello took over after that and ran Dallas as a satellite branch of his own organization- with an acting administration in place to operate their local rackets and whatever assistance Marcello needed in New Orleans.
@@BostonsF1nest Interesting. Sounds reasonable.
Chicago operated and called a lot of shots in Dallas…
Marcello wasn’t in total control of Dallas
If only you weren't an IU grad Scott. You Should have a good ball season tho. Excited for it to start next month.
I'd go with Tocco's. They still run like Philly, all relatives or childhood friends. You only ever hear about somebody thats connected gettin jammed up once every several
And nobody rats.
What does it say about the Bonannos if they had to pick an imprisoned member as the boss of the family. 😂 it’s really unbelievable.
In my opinion- it’s almost best nowadays to have a boss already in prison. Takes a lot of heat off the family and allows whatever acting administration they have in place to run the family in the meantime. Federal prosecutors like big headlines to push their careers along up the ladder. Only way to achieve big headlines is with big arrests. The biggest arrest you can make is a boss of a crime family. If that person is already in jail it’s not as enticing for the government to go after them and everyone under them.
@@BostonsF1nest true plus it’s less money everyone needs to kick up
@@blksheep176 😂 that’s a great point. I never thought of that. It would be interesting to know how much money Vic Amuso is still getting nowadays. John Pennisi spoke on his show a couple times and mentioned that his immediate family and home are all taken care of financially. I would be interested to know the exact number tho.
@@BostonsF1nest I’m sure it’s way less than when him and gas pipe were terrorizing the family 😂
Check out the bathroom scene from Ghostdog to find out what happened to The LA Crime Family lol.
They should make a tv series about this oh wait they did
I've still yet to hear which mc this was. Ive heard it wasn't a 1% club. Seems crazy that just a regular mc wouldn't be worried about putting hands on made guys. Shows how far the mob has come really
But here’s the thing Scott, Daz probably wasn’t kicking up to Mancuso. Like you said, he may have been with Basciano but maybe Mancuso didn’t trust or care about Daz so what’s the point if he is not kicking tribute? Regardless of what he did in the past that was with the old boss..if he was paying tribute then yeah he should have been protected by again, it was his son.
Was Sally Daz not still on a string ?? WTF ??
Good podcast ruckus radio/ Michael Franzese /J R Roger / police off the cuff / Armchair mba / Sammy the bull
OC SHORTZ is the best outside of this podcast
The Irish are smiling with blue eyes
My opinion is the reason why Mikey Nose didn’t respond you talking on the prison phone I’m surprised Vinny gorgeous knows the phones Monitor the right thing to do is pay no attention to the phone call
Today is 10/05/22 I read something on the daily news the first guy who attempted to get Sally I got killed his name is Giovanni It said someone got to him first
@@michaelbux5469 screw all of them
They need the electric chair
How dare you kill your Dad over his own earnings. Plus he took care of all his children. Gave them a living inheritance over 10 years ago. All of them never need to come home. Quite sure he could have been made probably didn't want too. Had no problem paying tribute. Imagine taking care of your family with all the money they would ever need and your Pile of 💩 son gets you killed. Now all them dirtbombs have are bad thinking regrets. Good for all of them.
His namesake is a good kid. I wish him the best.
We’re talking about 35 years ago the Lucchese family had soldiers they had the Gemini twins you get away with murder no more
Great podcast, but i disagree with what you said about New Orleans having 50 members in the 60’s. By 1969, Joe Colombo said that they only had 5 members left. The FBI had a list of 20 suspected members, so I doubt that they got all those right let alone don’t know 30 people.
Montreal .the bodies have been dropping since 2012 . Maybe it's finally stable ?
Hey Scott I lived in Vegas during the 70 and 80s I knew a family from NY that were mancuso and I'm positive they we're connected every thing that they did from a couple guys always around. Just curious
Mancuso is a gavone
What Expect from a Man who Killed his Wife than Dumped her Corpse in front of a Hospital to be left found no chance of survival.
(Disgrazia).
It would be great if you did!
Great Pod Cast, have a goodnight gentleman.
Mike Mancuso 🐀 That’s a Rat move to call go daddy 🐀
Mikey Nose cant be too sharp, all he had to do was step in for Sally Daz and than he coulda got his hooks into him and started shakin him down for big money too
Philly mafia
10**^
Why would ANYBODY pay protection money then & call the fbi & keep the money?
Being from Indiana and being into the mob stuff for 15 years now I would say Chicago and Detroit that and my grandpa used to race Greyhounds underground Greyhound races and take me with him to places like Kansas City up in Michigan other places in Illinois pretty wild times
@@DAC666 man it is. It can get crazy out there all those guys out there in the middle of the woods with all that cash and guns and the dogs are some of the bigger ones it's a one stop shop. You could borrow money place a bet buy your d*pe of any kind for you or your dog you can even pay for
Pu$$y.
So i thought if i was in the street doing my busness, i pay protection to do my thing hastle free cus they run that part of town im doing busness in. In reallity its only who im paying the money to.
Muncso is Boss period!