Most people in metro Detroit have never even been to flint lmao. Well made video but you picked all east side cities expect inkster. Should do a east and west side, also explaining there’s an east and west side.
I'm 58 and metro Detroit was always the tri-county area. Wayne, Oakland, and Macomb. It was advertised as such. Tri-county, metro Detroit. Every dealership advertised that in newspaper ads. I delivered the Detroit newspaper. Local news coverage was for Tri-county, metro Detroit. Very descriptive. Ask any Boomer or GenX. We watched television in the olden days. We read the newspaper. Heavily advertised to. I can still recite old commercials. Anyone remember "Crazy lady panti-hose", the Buff Whelen Chevy commercial.
Inkster doesn’t have a public school district. It was closed by the Gov. Rick Snyder administration. The students are bused to nearby districts. I would change your school system grade.
I am surprised you do not mention city income taxes. City income tax screams people with money. Get the hell out of here!! I live in Southfield near 8mi and Inkster. Bought the place in 1991. I was supposed to learn to drywall, plumb, electric, flip the fixer upper and sell in 5 years. Well? 32 years later we are still here and it is still a fixer er upper. Should I rebuild? (Thinking about flattening house and getting a modular house.) The current house is simply wrong for pending retiree people. Stairs, glass fuses, bad electric, plumb, spider furnace heat and the dreaded one bathroom, blah blah blah. I am confident I could sell it as is for 55K. If I could rent a tornado. Nah. Never want to see anyone hurt.
When Ford built the Highland Park plant in 1908, Detroit had not yet annexed the area north of Hamtramck and Highland Park. Those 2 cities were completely northwest of Detroit city border and were not surrounded by Detroit until ~1916. Overall, I recently subscribed to your videos and really enjoy them.
I can only afford to live in the "worst" cities. I cant even afford to buy a house thats why so many are renting. I have great credit but will probably never be able to afford a house in Pontiac.
As a metro Detroiter I enjoyed the vid! My one nitpick though is that the concept of rent vs. own isn’t as black and white as it’s made to seem, more renters isn’t necessarily a bad thing for a city. In fact it can just mean that the city is attractive to young people which is typically a good thing. Anything below like 60% renters isn’t necessarily a bad sign. For example royal oak, ferndale and Farmington hills are all in the 30-40% range and as far is i know they are pretty desirable places to live. For ferndale and RO it’s definitely because they’re attractive to young people and for all three it’s because they just actually have a good amount of apartments/the type of housing renters want which is lacking in alot of areas. Ann Arbor is one of the most desirable areas in the region and it’s in the 50’s. In AAs case its probably slightly because of the student population but it’s mostly because the area is so attractive and therefore expensive that not everyone who wants to buy there can afford to so they rent. By the logic that more poor people=worse city this is actually a great thing in their case.
All these towns are ripe for investment, especially the larger ones. I would really like to see Pontiac get more investment and look forward to the changes to the Woodward loop to make the downtown more accessible. Pontiac has its own Amtrak station. It's near an airport. It should have more businesses and visitors. It's also on top of the Clinton River. There's been talk of uncovering some of the river. It's encased in concrete below downtown to control flooding, but maybe it could bring more visitors if it were partially uncovered. The cost, unfortunately, is prohibitive. I was born in Pontiac, raised in Rochester and currently live in Chicago.
I live in Pontiac, and that rating doesn't surprise me. This town has virtually no economic infrastructure. There are no jobs worth mentioning and no economic growth. For a small town, it's not the safest place to be in.
@@TRULIVINGMICHIGAN I have lived in Pontiac for two years. I did not really want to move there, but after my house in Grand Rapids sold so quickly, the bids I placed in Roseville and Eastpointe were always beat. I had six weeks to move and settled on a less competitive area with the hopes of finding another property elsewhere. The location is actually quite convenient since it is close to Auburn Hills, and Orion Township/Lake Orion. It is a short four minute drive to downtown, and the street is safe, although it does carry a lot of heavy equipment vehicles and school buses pass on the street. When speaking of "Metro Detroit," we are looking at the "Tri County" area of southeastern Michigan that includes Wayne Country (the largest), Oakland, and Macomb. By the way, Eastpointe as I understand it, used to be East Detroit. The city renamed itself because it wanted to separate itself from the bad reputation of Detroit. So the solution was a name that combined East with Pointe from Gross Pointe. As for someone who claims to be from the Detroit area, I'm surprised that you admit that you never heard of Ecourse. Lastly, Flint was NEVER considered part of Metro Detroit since it is outside of the tri county area. Flint is 40 miles north of Pontiac, which is 41 miles north of Detroit. So that's 81 miles and is not considered connected to Detroit, or never was when I lived there. Or is the concept of Metro Detroit going to expand to Lansing? I think we know better. Highland Park and Hamtramck always were old cities limping along when I was growing up in the 1950s and 60s. Those of my generation had no interest in remaining there and went elsewhere to live, if not leaving the city or the state all together. Once the automobile jobs left, those cities collapsed. Lastly, are you clear about students from Highland Park going to Ferndale? Ferndale is in Oakland County. Cities have millages, which is a property tax levied to support schools. With that, how can children of non-residents of a city or county qualify to attend schools outside of their districts? Were special provisions made? While the Detroit schools have a low rating, they are closer. And when I lived in Detroit, kids living in Highland Park were allowed to attend high school in Detroit. But that was 50 years ago and in the last century. Welcome to the 21st.
Closer to Detroit and crime a little higher. South Warren is mid to lower income and smaller homes (1/2 own their home and the other 1/2 rent). North Warren is high on income area and bigger homes.
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Flint is really more of it's own thing, I wouldn't call that METRO DETROIT
Depends on who you ask. Many areas in SE Michigan are counted in the Metro Detroit region.
Lived in SE Michigan for 20+ years. Never heard Flint considered as apart of Metro Detroit
Most people in metro Detroit have never even been to flint lmao. Well made video but you picked all east side cities expect inkster. Should do a east and west side, also explaining there’s an east and west side.
I'm 58 and metro Detroit was always the tri-county area. Wayne, Oakland, and Macomb. It was advertised as such. Tri-county, metro Detroit. Every dealership advertised that in newspaper ads. I delivered the Detroit newspaper. Local news coverage was for Tri-county, metro Detroit. Very descriptive. Ask any Boomer or GenX. We watched television in the olden days. We read the newspaper. Heavily advertised to. I can still recite old commercials. Anyone remember "Crazy lady panti-hose", the Buff Whelen Chevy commercial.
Inkster doesn’t have a public school district. It was closed by the Gov. Rick Snyder administration. The students are bused to nearby districts. I would change your school system grade.
Thanks 😊
I am surprised you do not mention city income taxes. City income tax screams people with money. Get the hell out of here!! I live in Southfield near 8mi and Inkster. Bought the place in 1991. I was supposed to learn to drywall, plumb, electric, flip the fixer upper and sell in 5 years. Well? 32 years later we are still here and it is still a fixer er upper. Should I rebuild? (Thinking about flattening house and getting a modular house.) The current house is simply wrong for pending retiree people. Stairs, glass fuses, bad electric, plumb, spider furnace heat and the dreaded one bathroom, blah blah blah. I am confident I could sell it as is for 55K. If I could rent a tornado. Nah. Never want to see anyone hurt.
When Ford built the Highland Park plant in 1908, Detroit had not yet annexed the area north of Hamtramck and Highland Park. Those 2 cities were completely northwest of Detroit city border and were not surrounded by Detroit until ~1916. Overall, I recently subscribed to your videos and really enjoy them.
Appreciate the sub!
I can only afford to live in the "worst" cities. I cant even afford to buy a house thats why so many are renting. I have great credit but will probably never be able to afford a house in Pontiac.
There are federal programs that help with first time home buyers in Michigan. Feel free to reach out and we’d be happy to help.
As a metro Detroiter I enjoyed the vid! My one nitpick though is that the concept of rent vs. own isn’t as black and white as it’s made to seem, more renters isn’t necessarily a bad thing for a city. In fact it can just mean that the city is attractive to young people which is typically a good thing. Anything below like 60% renters isn’t necessarily a bad sign. For example royal oak, ferndale and Farmington hills are all in the 30-40% range and as far is i know they are pretty desirable places to live. For ferndale and RO it’s definitely because they’re attractive to young people and for all three it’s because they just actually have a good amount of apartments/the type of housing renters want which is lacking in alot of areas. Ann Arbor is one of the most desirable areas in the region and it’s in the 50’s. In AAs case its probably slightly because of the student population but it’s mostly because the area is so attractive and therefore expensive that not everyone who wants to buy there can afford to so they rent. By the logic that more poor people=worse city this is actually a great thing in their case.
Spot on. You're 100% correct. It's not a terrible thing if a city is high on the rental side, but other factors to consider for sure.
All these towns are ripe for investment, especially the larger ones. I would really like to see Pontiac get more investment and look forward to the changes to the Woodward loop to make the downtown more accessible. Pontiac has its own Amtrak station. It's near an airport. It should have more businesses and visitors. It's also on top of the Clinton River. There's been talk of uncovering some of the river. It's encased in concrete below downtown to control flooding, but maybe it could bring more visitors if it were partially uncovered. The cost, unfortunately, is prohibitive. I was born in Pontiac, raised in Rochester and currently live in Chicago.
There is a lot of investors that love those areas for the price point!
I live in Pontiac, and that rating doesn't surprise me. This town has virtually no economic infrastructure. There are no jobs worth mentioning and no economic growth. For a small town, it's not the safest place to be in.
Thanks for sharing, David. Are there any pros to living in Pontiac, or hidden gems people should check out?
@@TRULIVINGMICHIGAN I have lived in Pontiac for two years. I did not really want to move there, but after my house in Grand Rapids sold so quickly, the bids I placed in Roseville and Eastpointe were always beat. I had six weeks to move and settled on a less competitive area with the hopes of finding another property elsewhere. The location is actually quite convenient since it is close to Auburn Hills, and Orion Township/Lake Orion. It is a short four minute drive to downtown, and the street is safe, although it does carry a lot of heavy equipment vehicles and school buses pass on the street.
When speaking of "Metro Detroit," we are looking at the "Tri County" area of southeastern Michigan that includes Wayne Country (the largest), Oakland, and Macomb. By the way, Eastpointe as I understand it, used to be East Detroit. The city renamed itself because it wanted to separate itself from the bad reputation of Detroit. So the solution was a name that combined East with Pointe from Gross Pointe. As for someone who claims to be from the Detroit area, I'm surprised that you admit that you never heard of Ecourse. Lastly, Flint was NEVER considered part of Metro Detroit since it is outside of the tri county area. Flint is 40 miles north of Pontiac, which is 41 miles north of Detroit. So that's 81 miles and is not considered connected to Detroit, or never was when I lived there. Or is the concept of Metro Detroit going to expand to Lansing? I think we know better.
Highland Park and Hamtramck always were old cities limping along when I was growing up in the 1950s and 60s. Those of my generation had no interest in remaining there and went elsewhere to live, if not leaving the city or the state all together. Once the automobile jobs left, those cities collapsed. Lastly, are you clear about students from Highland Park going to Ferndale? Ferndale is in Oakland County. Cities have millages, which is a property tax levied to support schools. With that, how can children of non-residents of a city or county qualify to attend schools outside of their districts? Were special provisions made? While the Detroit schools have a low rating, they are closer. And when I lived in Detroit, kids living in Highland Park were allowed to attend high school in Detroit. But that was 50 years ago and in the last century. Welcome to the 21st.
North Warren = Good.
South Warren = Bad.
What makes South Warren so bad you think?
Closer to Detroit and crime a little higher. South Warren is mid to lower income and smaller homes (1/2 own their home and the other 1/2 rent). North Warren is high on income area and bigger homes.
I hate warren its so lifeless. Madison heights is much better to the west
It’s the burbs!