Thanks for sharing your views. Ive been here 1.5yrs , originally from Canada. Enjoy the freedom to move around here. Not having to watch your back 24/7 is a beautiful thing. Keep up the content.
The Lidl supermarkets are different, you don't weight your vegetables and fruits yourself, felt strange at first :) When Lidl arrived in Finland, they also had other "odd" German customs, but were changed later.
Nice video, thank you, Finnago! In my circle of friends, there is one Brit who has lived in Finland for 15 years now. Learning Finnish was challenging but she persevered and she became fluent within two years. Her Finnish family refused to talk in English to her, so she had no option but to learn Finnish. It was annoying for her back then but now she is very grateful about it. It sounds like you are linguistically talented, so it might be easier for you. Good luck with everything and hope this country will feel like a home! ❤
Thank you for the nice comment! I can definitely relate to your friend. It is so frustrating at the start, but the more Finnish I use, the easier it gets :)
UA-cam deleted my comment where I wrote my condoleances, as I'm very sorry for your loss of both parents. In that comment I also mentioned that The Finnish Red Cross has activities like friendship services - I gave two YT links to Finland's red cross, and that was probably the reason why the whole comment got deleted. Sorry about that - please, make your own research, you can find material in English, but also in simple Finnish. It's nice you give Finnish a second chance! All the best.
Thank you so much for this message, I really appreciate the support. I have already started some work with a local MEIPPI service which is helpful. I also wanted to say, I've looked into some Tove Jansson Hobit covers after your previous comment and it is clear that there is Finnish influence. I will definitely attempt a video all in Finnish at some point soon, I will never give up!! 😅
Joka, and derivatives, are for who, whose, whom, that, which - it seems very difficult at first, but when you have a bit broader experience, then you will see/feel there are recurring patterns. Patterns are the keys. Mitä, mikä, what, that, which, and things like that. Learn by examples.
Yes I agree with you that the patterns become more familiar over time. I'm getting to understand jota is partitiivi, jotka is monikko T, jonka is genetiivi, joka is perus muoto and johonkin is mihin, but still learning! A lot of the pizzle pieces fit together slowly over time.
@@Finnago94 Yes, they do. Tolkien has said something like that he was "totally mesmerized" by Finnish and the Kalevala and so he used inspirations from that study. If you like his Ring-series maybe everything about Finnish language and myths would inspire also you? As soon as possible, stop translating, just use imagination and just try to have a Lego-building-like approach, building with pieces you know. Speak simply, and let the Finns say the complicated things, to which you agree or disagree, adding international gestures. Do you read fluently - and pronounce according to Finnish rules? Stress on the first syllable also in words that look familiar to you, like demokratia, historia, matematiikka, kommunikaatio, eurooppalainen, sivilisaatio, rutiini, televisio, sinfonia, luutnantti, vajeri - use google translate to listen to such words. I love it when I find out that words are used across the borders! 🙂
@@DNA350ppm wow this is a really nice comment. I haven't read those books, but maybe I will have to read then just to feel the Finnish inspiration. I haven't read massively in recent weeks because of my personal situation, but I do try to make an effort to pronounce things correctly. I do find it hard to say a double consonant without making that sound too long because I know you need to emphasising when the consonant is doubled. I start my language course soon so maybe I'll try to share more language stuff later and try to speak in Finnish also!
With the buss things, I feel like the attitude of the customers is that if you fail to catch it, i'ts your own fault. You making everyone late because you were late would be rude so you understand that the buss leaves without you. Even tho it can be brutal :D
That's true!! That probably explains the differences. In England you can buy alcohol at the self service tills and cigarettes are uaully bought at a separate small kiosk.
Allow me to use this comment for a language observation: the letters b and p are very interchangable in Finnish in the beginning of words - bench = penkki, bank = pankki, and Borg = Pori, bacon = pekooni, so then be and p easily get mixed up. Odd for Finns is that there is no real translation for "ihminen" in English. Neither is there any use for a translation of "please" in Finnish - you need to conjugate the verbs instead. Learn to use "voisinko", "saisinko", "olisiko", "haluaisin" instead and you'll sound as polite as if you would add "please" in English.
@@DNA350ppm Depends what contest "pleace" has been used. Like in sentence "Voit tehdä mitä haluat - You can do what you please". But yeas it is quite complicated and it can replece many our words. There are multible ways to use the word and even that sentence you can translate it "You can do what you want". Or you can say "Saat tehdä mitä haluat" and those two options to translate are both same. Languages are funny that way. And same thing with "Tee mitä lystäät" 😁. And also the tone of voice makes it different. You can say it nice way or angry way and you can found the proper option what your are going to use.
Well i think it this way that as long we use the regular registers we will have people with jobs, but if we don´t use those they will get unemployed and that would be sad thing. Also good point that when you weight your fruits and veggies, you´ll see also the price instantly. If you have low budget it might be hard to guess how much money you have left. Do you still can take something more or not. Some people needs to count every single sent that they are spending. For giving your child a name it can´t be insulting from finnish perspective. I know one that wanted to name them child as Jokeri (Jocker) and got denied. So he was given name Jori but they called him as Jokeri anyway. But you can give name like Pelle (Clown) becouse it is regular mans name in Sweden and as Sweden is our second official language so we can´t deny for giving that name for the child even that it sure will make some problems for the kid in the future. Second hand stores (or flee market as we call it) are remarkable part of recyckling usefull items you don´t need to throw away into trash just becouse you don´t need it anymore. It reduces the wasteload massively. It´s popular in Sweden too. Also old furniture and antique is very wanted. Those were designed to last long time were given from father to son. Now if you buy now stools for kitchen those propably last from 3-10 years. If those are good quality maybe little longer, but the old ones might last 50 - 150 years becouse those vere made good quality materials to last long.
Always support labour and work opportunities, so buy from real persons who have jobs. Thanks them properly. It will not be nice when all work/tasks will be done by robots and automats and by customers themselves. We shouldn't support making workers in "simpler" jobs redundant - cause then only academics (engineers and doctors) will have jobs anymore.
About Finland having name list for newborns.. it more of guide what you CAN or CANNOT name your child. People are stupid and want name their child so 'unique' that it problem for child future.
Haha! Yeah, I totally get that because my name is very unique, and it wasn't always fun as a child. We do get some very strange names in England sometimes, although most names are pretty standard. What are considered unique names in Finland that people like to give to their children?
@@Finnago94 I'm not completely sure but i would say names that have double meaning and people name from history. Some want simply name their child some curse word or evil history people or food for JOKE. That why there some rule for naming a baby. Bad names like Julma-Hurtta meaning Brutal-Dog or Mielivalta meaning Arbitrary. Then there is religious ones exmple Lucifer, Haades and Buddha I think most perfect exmple for bad naming for children can be seen on Jodi Cross, 36, a hairdresser from Wixams, Bedfordshire how NAMED her child after CORONAVIRUS. It may not have had in finland but it perfect exmple why there is rule for name child in finland.
@@miltsukka13another thing are parents who try to be "fancy" and give their kids names like Nico or Marco while they have very Finnish last name. Then those people must tell their name like "Nico with C" for their entire life. We have given our kids common "boring" Finnish names that won't ever make confusion, bullying or like that.
Thanks for sharing your views. Ive been here 1.5yrs , originally from Canada. Enjoy the freedom to move around here. Not having to watch your back 24/7 is a beautiful thing. Keep up the content.
That is so true! I have never felt so safe as I do here. Thank you for your comment :)
The Lidl supermarkets are different, you don't weight your vegetables and fruits yourself, felt strange at first :) When Lidl arrived in Finland, they also had other "odd" German customs, but were changed later.
Nice video, thank you, Finnago! In my circle of friends, there is one Brit who has lived in Finland for 15 years now. Learning Finnish was challenging but she persevered and she became fluent within two years. Her Finnish family refused to talk in English to her, so she had no option but to learn Finnish. It was annoying for her back then but now she is very grateful about it. It sounds like you are linguistically talented, so it might be easier for you. Good luck with everything and hope this country will feel like a home! ❤
Thank you for the nice comment! I can definitely relate to your friend. It is so frustrating at the start, but the more Finnish I use, the easier it gets :)
Sorry to hear about your parents. I hope you are OK.
UA-cam deleted my comment where I wrote my condoleances, as I'm very sorry for your loss of both parents. In that comment I also mentioned that The Finnish Red Cross has activities like friendship services - I gave two YT links to Finland's red cross, and that was probably the reason why the whole comment got deleted. Sorry about that - please, make your own research, you can find material in English, but also in simple Finnish. It's nice you give Finnish a second chance! All the best.
Thank you so much for this message, I really appreciate the support. I have already started some work with a local MEIPPI service which is helpful. I also wanted to say, I've looked into some Tove Jansson Hobit covers after your previous comment and it is clear that there is Finnish influence. I will definitely attempt a video all in Finnish at some point soon, I will never give up!! 😅
11:30 you can't buy beer in self checkout. You can't even buy 0,1% alcohol from self checkout. That is one reason.
please make your Finnish language journey too... anything you like to share....
Joka, and derivatives, are for who, whose, whom, that, which - it seems very difficult at first, but when you have a bit broader experience, then you will see/feel there are recurring patterns. Patterns are the keys.
Mitä, mikä, what, that, which, and things like that. Learn by examples.
Yes I agree with you that the patterns become more familiar over time. I'm getting to understand jota is partitiivi, jotka is monikko T, jonka is genetiivi, joka is perus muoto and johonkin is mihin, but still learning! A lot of the pizzle pieces fit together slowly over time.
@@Finnago94 Yes, they do. Tolkien has said something like that he was "totally mesmerized" by Finnish and the Kalevala and so he used inspirations from that study. If you like his Ring-series maybe everything about Finnish language and myths would inspire also you?
As soon as possible, stop translating, just use imagination and just try to have a Lego-building-like approach, building with pieces you know. Speak simply, and let the Finns say the complicated things, to which you agree or disagree, adding international gestures.
Do you read fluently - and pronounce according to Finnish rules? Stress on the first syllable also in words that look familiar to you, like demokratia, historia, matematiikka, kommunikaatio, eurooppalainen, sivilisaatio, rutiini, televisio, sinfonia, luutnantti, vajeri - use google translate to listen to such words.
I love it when I find out that words are used across the borders! 🙂
@@DNA350ppm wow this is a really nice comment. I haven't read those books, but maybe I will have to read then just to feel the Finnish inspiration.
I haven't read massively in recent weeks because of my personal situation, but I do try to make an effort to pronounce things correctly. I do find it hard to say a double consonant without making that sound too long because I know you need to emphasising when the consonant is doubled. I start my language course soon so maybe I'll try to share more language stuff later and try to speak in Finnish also!
With the buss things, I feel like the attitude of the customers is that if you fail to catch it, i'ts your own fault. You making everyone late because you were late would be rude so you understand that the buss leaves without you. Even tho it can be brutal :D
Seems like the first time to me
If there is no queu, the cashier till is faster than self service 😊
If you have alkohol broducts or cigarettes, you need to go to human cashier.
That's true!! That probably explains the differences. In England you can buy alcohol at the self service tills and cigarettes are uaully bought at a separate small kiosk.
Allow me to use this comment for a language observation: the letters b and p are very interchangable in Finnish in the beginning of words - bench = penkki, bank = pankki, and Borg = Pori, bacon = pekooni, so then be and p easily get mixed up.
Odd for Finns is that there is no real translation for "ihminen" in English.
Neither is there any use for a translation of "please" in Finnish - you need to conjugate the verbs instead. Learn to use "voisinko", "saisinko", "olisiko", "haluaisin" instead and you'll sound as polite as if you would add "please" in English.
@@DNA350ppm B and P is the same. Ihminen means human. Pleace is just singn of weaknes. Also W and V are the same too.
@@Turmootti A sign of weakness! Love it!
@@DNA350ppm Depends what contest "pleace" has been used. Like in sentence "Voit tehdä mitä haluat - You can do what you please". But yeas it is quite complicated and it can replece many our words. There are multible ways to use the word and even that sentence you can translate it "You can do what you want". Or you can say "Saat tehdä mitä haluat" and those two options to translate are both same. Languages are funny that way. And same thing with "Tee mitä lystäät" 😁. And also the tone of voice makes it different. You can say it nice way or angry way and you can found the proper option what your are going to use.
Well i think it this way that as long we use the regular registers we will have people with jobs, but if we don´t use those they will get unemployed and that would be sad thing.
Also good point that when you weight your fruits and veggies, you´ll see also the price instantly. If you have low budget it might be hard to guess how much money you have left. Do you still can take something more or not. Some people needs to count every single sent that they are spending.
For giving your child a name it can´t be insulting from finnish perspective. I know one that wanted to name them child as Jokeri (Jocker) and got denied. So he was given name Jori but they called him as Jokeri anyway. But you can give name like Pelle (Clown) becouse it is regular mans name in Sweden and as Sweden is our second official language so we can´t deny for giving that name for the child even that it sure will make some problems for the kid in the future.
Second hand stores (or flee market as we call it) are remarkable part of recyckling usefull items you don´t need to throw away into trash just becouse you don´t need it anymore. It reduces the wasteload massively. It´s popular in Sweden too. Also old furniture and antique is very wanted. Those were designed to last long time were given from father to son. Now if you buy now stools for kitchen those propably last from 3-10 years. If those are good quality maybe little longer, but the old ones might last 50 - 150 years becouse those vere made good quality materials to last long.
Yes, those are some interesting points! I definitely agree about older items being better quality and listing longer!
Always support labour and work opportunities, so buy from real persons who have jobs. Thanks them properly. It will not be nice when all work/tasks will be done by robots and automats and by customers themselves. We shouldn't support making workers in "simpler" jobs redundant - cause then only academics (engineers and doctors) will have jobs anymore.
About Finland having name list for newborns.. it more of guide what you CAN or CANNOT name your child. People are stupid and want name their child so 'unique' that it problem for child future.
Haha! Yeah, I totally get that because my name is very unique, and it wasn't always fun as a child. We do get some very strange names in England sometimes, although most names are pretty standard. What are considered unique names in Finland that people like to give to their children?
@@Finnago94 I'm not completely sure but i would say names that have double meaning and people name from history. Some want simply name their child some curse word or evil history people or food for JOKE. That why there some rule for naming a baby.
Bad names like Julma-Hurtta meaning Brutal-Dog or Mielivalta meaning Arbitrary. Then there is religious ones exmple Lucifer, Haades and Buddha
I think most perfect exmple for bad naming for children can be seen on Jodi Cross, 36, a hairdresser from Wixams, Bedfordshire how NAMED her child after CORONAVIRUS. It may not have had in finland but it perfect exmple why there is rule for name child in finland.
@@miltsukka13another thing are parents who try to be "fancy" and give their kids names like Nico or Marco while they have very Finnish last name. Then those people must tell their name like "Nico with C" for their entire life. We have given our kids common "boring" Finnish names that won't ever make confusion, bullying or like that.