i like that his clothes are dull and somewhat dirty-looking: not only it conveys the lack of care he has for his appearance (any shut-in artist can relate lmao), it also symbolizes his suppressed nature once you compare them to the vibrant colour of his spells
@@bectip2229 *Everything* has stains of unknown origin! And you will never, ever get them out no matter how much or what kind of cleaning solution you use!
I think Hwei's clothing also are supposed to contrast with Jhin, they both have purple, but Jhin's cloth looks fancier, like he's more vain. Jhin is a egotistical and prideful artist, while Hwei is quite literally a humble monk. Jhin has gold ornaments and contraptions, Hwei only has very delicate fabrics. Jhin is always in the center stage of his performances, he wants the recognition, the "applause", Hwei is more "the art speaks for itself, the body is only the medium it speaks through". Also, Jhin has a patron, Hwei is quite literally the poor starving artist with no home.
I like Hwei's looks! It's like a "realistic" Runeterra version of the freelance artist: depressed, sleep-deprived, malnourished, so busy/commited to the craft he can't even manage to be angry when given The Sad Backstory, and wearing the ionian version of a tracksuit. Also is Vitamin D deficient
His lack of anger always seemed to me to be more trauma-related than a matter of being busy or fatigued. On the day that Jhin did the Big Destroy, it came as such a surprise to Hwei and things happened so quickly that he couldn't understand what was happening. Hwei felt sadness, anger, loss, but also perhaps gratitude and happiness at Jhin destroying his 'cage', contradictions that maybe Hwei felt he wasn't 'allowed' to feel. That's how I interpret Hwei's abilities: they're him trying to process a whole glut of emotions in the aftermath of Jhin's destruction, anchored to that point in his past and yet irreparably colouring his perception of the world and himself as he tries to move on. Perhaps the reason Hwei is depressed isn't because he's sad, but because his emotions are so intense that he can't let himself feel them all at once or else it would break him. His art is so focused on singular themes as a way of compartmentalising emotions and memories, letting him re-experience and deal with them one by one, reducing the emotional burden bit by bit so he can slowly make his way back to a place where his emotions are less heavy, less scary. I really like the idea of Hwei's art as therapy. It makes a lot of sense to me.
I haven’t really seen a lot of Hwei’s lore but I like his event with Jhin. Hopefully we’ll see more of those in the future like Nasus vs Renekton, Pantheon vs Aatrox or Lewis vs Rek’Sai
The reason the temple would "welcome a serial murderer" is because Khada Jhin is an alias and he wears a mask. Take off the mask and drop the stage name, and suddenly Jhin is just an eccentric guy. *That* is who they allowed to stay with them.
Jhin and Hwei didn't fight, Jhin just noticed that Hwei was holding back and confronted him on it. Hwei then showed him what he was hiding, it was a vulnerable moment, not a violent one.
I said this on the Skin Spotlight video showcasing the champion and I'll say it here: I hope Hwei gets a Bob Ross themed skin. Legendary that gets him more optimistic lines, appreciating the art he makes and shares. Ivern could participate in the skinline as the lonely tree who needed a friend.
I feel like Im going insane because I think why jhin and hwei aren't just a revenge story is because they have almost a Hannibal/will Graham relationship It's toxic but jhin unlocked hwei and sees him as an equal (hwei challenges jhins view of art and jhin challenges hweis morality and makes him push the boundaries that hwei was kinda reluctant to unlock only hiding his fascination in the dark)
Yes, I'd say that's a lot more accurate than mere revenge. In his voice lines, Hwei has a very love/hate relationship with Jhin: Hwei recognises Jhin both as the source of extreme violence and pain in his life, but also as the catalyst that allowed him and his art to break free from tradition and expectation to become more true to himself and his experience. In the voice lines that trigger when Hwei slays Jhin, he isn't angry or vengeful, but rather he sounds like he wants Jhin to understand what he's been through and how Jhin helped him to grow (not that this would happen because Jhin is 100% a psychopath, but still).
My one fear is that Riot will take the wrong idea from Hwei's winrate and turn him into the next K'Sante even though he was obviously designed with a high skill floor and next season's items in mind.
You say that it's surprising how Hwei wasn't in the boy band in the end card, do you remember the backlash Riot got last time they coincided a champion's release with a music video? I really don't think Riot wants to have another Seraphine situation so they played it safe and if Heartsteel gets a second go he's 100% going to be a part of it, they probably also didn't want Hwei's story to be overshadowed by the boy band stuff either.
I know it’s present in almost every single one of these casual champ reviews but I love the discussion being interrupted by what’s happening in the game. It’s funny beyond belief for some reason.
Personally, I like all aspects of Hwei's character. His gameplay feels complex and interesting (a lot like his character's personality/emotions). His clothing and walk animation portray his apathetic emptiness very well. His color scheme also conveys his character well, with the only bright part of his character being his paint smear hovering behind him, the volatile and potentially dangerous part of him that he has to decide between containing it for the sake of others, or becoming similar to Jhin and unleashing his creativity at the expense of others. I also love difficult-to-play control mages like Viktor and Azir, so adding Hwei to that line-up is really nice. Overall, he feels engaging and coherent in gameplay, lore, and design, which makes him the first new character that I've really wanted to play in a long time.
From the start, I interpreted all the gold and demon hints as references to Jhin because he's "The Golden Demon". And I'm honestly glad they gave Hwei proper paint magic, as was teased since the very first teaser and confirmed during champion roadmaps, instead of suddenly tying those powers to a demon. I like demons, but I prefer this a lot more and it's what I got hyped for, so I would have felt cheated if it turned out to be just demon power
I gotta feeling that when Jhin went into the temple, he probably didn’t have his traditional outfit or had a different mask. Something that didn’t make him super obvious
It may have been before Jhin was infamous, Hwei isn't exactly young (early to mid 30s.) And it's unclear how old he and Jhin were when they met, the events between them easily could have happened a decade or more ago.
I actually find him surprisingly simple to play. Sure I still need to get used to him and sometimes I have a brain fart and mess up my inputs but he really isn't that difficult. I think what helps is that all of his abilities are very straight forward. He doesn't have a dash or cooldown resets or weird overcomplicated passives, just a wide array of simple abilities with different uses. Riot showed a surprising amount of restraint here.
Yeah, at first I heard that "Oh League got Invoker!" and went "Oh no, that won't go well there". But nah, he's pretty simple, each color is a type of spell, go nuts. Good execution for League's ecosystem.
I like his colors the most from his outfit! Looking dull is exactly what is going on in his head and if he looked all uptight and slick it would be wierd. The overall green color he has really reminds me of the color that you get as a result of cleaning your brushes in a rug, and to a champion all about paint its super nice! Also colors mashed up together quite chaotically symbolizes that he doesnt know how to proceed out of the "paths" laid in front of him, which is his main struggle, the only solid color he has is golden that is the main color of his ultimate, foreshadowing (I hope) that he wont have fullfilment out of picking a path, the strengh in art is that it can makes us feel a lot of different things and one type of art will never be above another, its all about what Hwei feels the need to create. Once he realizes that he can not be such a mess. Or maybe an azakana is feeding on his negativity and once he deals with them he will have closure. Idk its too early to tell.
I personaly very like his design. The dull color, with a peak a vibrant orange and red is selling the idea that he is moody but with a wild imagination
My crockpot theory is that they let Jhin stay there because they low key wanted him to kill Hwei. But then Jhin was interested in Hwei’s chaotic energy and decided he liked him. So he did the whole thing where he challenged Hwei to show him his true passion or whatever, and then killed the rest of the masters and burnt the temple in a way that Hwei would think he did it.
Being honest, gameplay-wise I would pretty easily adjust to Hwei due to having playing Ninja in Final Fantasy 14. His kit is pretty much Mudras, but trading the Bunny of Shame if you mess up on FF14 for being frustrated on League... which is part of the course.
I dont get people calling this champion complicated, it's actually desgned to be really simple to understand. q- dmg (normal, artillery, waveclear) w- utility (speed, shield, mana) e- cc (fear, root, displacement) That's pretty much it, obviously there's more depth to it but it's not hard to understand
He has a normal Mage Kit, but has access to one of 3 Main Ability Options. Combos Trees are possible, but every Q-W-E Share the cooldown Respectivly. Its not to agonizing as it feels at first. Everything is about Number 3, Edgelords are always Welcome for me and as someone who loves Art and Sound Design, am I very satisfied with him!
i feel like saying he has 9 abilities is super missleading he has 3 abilities but each ability can be cast in a different way, utility kinda drives away from that by giving different efects but it's not hard to remember,speedzone nami buff and shield lol
If he actually had access to all 3 Qs, Ws and Es at the same time, he would actually be complicated, and also way cooler than he is right now. Rn his entire depth is just choosing which E to combo into which Q and then follow up with WE to regain some mana and do some followup damage And then you just spam Qs until your other abilities come off cooldown
@@somo4227 almost like how vicktor augments could have been. Choose between dif augment items as a permanent change in how his abilities work the rest of the game. but instead he just has it as part of his kit instead of as an ability upgrade like so many other champs have
honestly yeah. i watched a quick video on some extremely basic concepts as to how he's played (q/e for waveclear and w/e for mana regain, fish for e/x abilities and take advantage of what you get) and then branched from that into actually playing him somewhat proficiently. he's a LOT of fun and i honestly haven't had as much fun playing league as i have playing him it's beyond satisfying to be able to have a plan in mind and seamlessly execute it, even while under pressure. his kit just.. flows really well from ability to ability. like, his most basic combo is e-q-q-q lmao
Iirc Jhin was never revealed as the golden demon to the public bc it would cause unrest that an ionian did it instead of a demon. Also Hwei is looking for Jhin, wanting answers not just going out helping people.
The only problem i have with Hwei is that while i think its cool each of his 3 colors and skills are all themed similarly, i feel Riot was too scared of making Hwei more complex by trying some bigger differences between his skills combinations.
i wouldnt even call him complex, he just has more very basic abilities. champions like nidalee and jayce have 8 themselves, he just has 2 more and can only use 4 at a time. not that different. compare him to invoker, his counterpart in dota 2 and you will be thankful for the way he is. (also i think hes great and very fun to play)
@@Sparkofshurima from what i see, invoker has three components for his spells, and none of them share a cooldown. then again, it seems like every DOTA 2 hero is rather insane compared to league champs
@@Sparkofshurima yeah, it isnt too bad for an "advanced mage. Its prolly still harder to play the old Asol and worry about hitting your orbs by keeping distance... and there are plenty of other advanced mechanics. This one surely has good combos but def is just a ranged mage and can be played alot like a xerath with a different ult
@@Underworlder5 you have to just know the combinations of his spells. its very hard for new players. i havent played dota in forever so i hope im not saying anything wrong here but i just like hwei way more.
@@Underworlder5 Dota2's heroes are pretty focused on calculare the most efficient time to use that Q ability that cost you half of your mana and 30s cooldown. Yup, their normal abilities can be as crazy as League's ult.
I'm not big into league, my friends shoved me into its lore department to get me away from spoiling myself in ffxiv (lol) so I went through the champions list and my eye, for some reason, caught Hwei. Yes, the artist. I am one as well, I swear its never intentional but my friends notice its a pattern. I went to go look for videos and watched this one while drawing. And I loved it! I love the energy you give, the gameplay to glance to in the background, its all very nice. All of this to say, I thuroughly enjoyed the video. Thank you very much!
It would be a fantastic character plot twist if Hwei wasnt to rival Jhin, but instead to join him. If he at all felt beauty in seing his temple in flames, it would already make sense for him to join Jhin, as they have similar interests in art. Maybe if Hwei joined Jhin he would show him his full potential, and then Jhin would show him the dark side of it. But maybe instead of being tempted to join the dark side like Jhin, he would remain neutral. Not being a nice guy, but also not a bad guy.
I think in lore hwei’s temple is the third location where jhin did his murder spree its why, hwei’s thing against jhin all have the number 3 attached to it like when hwei kills jhin with his ult he gains 3% magic penetration
I also loved in his lore that Jhin only did 3 tragedies(the art, the masters, the building), and Hwei is intended to be the 4th. And whether Hwei falls to darkness or strives to be better determines who's number rises...
Personally I like his design as his whole story is someone who is both aware and scared of his power. He hasn’t fully embraced it yet so it works but I do wish he had a splash of colour here and there
Love Hwei honestly. He's a real swiss army knife champion and I think that makes him unique. He can do anything and unlike certain other 'high skill' champions *CoughAkshanCough* he isn't made to fit every situation just because one of his 3 ability's multiple passives fixes it. He's an honest to goodness SKILL BASED CHARACTER!
Yeah, because the rioters said something like he is a depress person and use ink, so many of us deduct that he carries the Demon of the sadness. Also, in that time we get Nilah... I know, we get excited😅.
I apparently bought Hwei right after his release but, because of irl stuff, never really had the time, energy or motivation to try him out. Now almost a year later I downloaded league on a new PC to try out Swarm, remembered I had Hwei, decided to try his spells out in the practice mode, for some reason think "his Q's kinda remind me of Vel'koz" (who I mained for a while), and then proceed to actually have fun learning him in regular PvP games. I haven't had this much fun actually learning a sorta newly released champion since Jhin, and that's right after taking a over half year long break from LoL. How.
I can’t remember the exact source, but I remember learning once that the name Khada Jhin translates to Golden Demon (I can’t remember which language is being translated from). So, it wasn’t a relationship to a literal demon, but Hwei does have a connection to the Golden Demon. It’s a bit of a cop out, but could be interesting to see how Zed and Shen interact with Hwei in future lore.
at 14:50 i noticed a bug i think, you aimed QE and your QQ came out in the opposite direction, had this happen to me but thought i had a brainfart or something
3:42 No one outside of Shen, Zed, The Maker and i presuma Akali and Kayn know the identity of who the golden demon was. It is confirmed that it was never even revealed to the general public that Jhin was a human. The general population believes that Jhin was a demon who was destroyed or otherwise pacified when in reality he was just inprisoned. Jhin is also a master of disguise (on an old Q&A board i believe it was even confirmed that he can manipulate his facial structure) so he could have just went there in disguise and told them that he was a totally different guy named Jhin.
Honestly, I thought he would have more base damage in his kit and since his QE and EE are pretty big spells, I wanted to try to play him as a control mage, but then I deal almost no damage and I still have pretty lacklustre spells if I'm not ahead. I honestly think that unless new items are going to change that about him, I dunno if I will be playing Hwei as I thought I was going to.
I'm a simple man: I see a champion with supportive abilities, support brain wants to play them no matter how difficult they are. I'd actually be really happy if support Hwei is good because support honestly feels like a really easy role in terms of champs. Sure we have complicated supports like Rell or Renata but even then it still boils down to "hit CC button, hit shield button, hit ult, go crazy go stupid." I hope support Hwei actually has some playmaking potential outside of hitting CC.
At least for me, the dull color attire hwei has is pretty much what monks have outside of their traditional robes, cause it’s supposed to be dull it’s supposed to be simple cause it’s all hwei knows growing up, and i even think he dyed his clothes those new colors cause he wants to move up from his old life Basically from his dull one basic color clothing to now somewhat a more lively clothing, he still cant fully escape his old ways of teachings but theres an effort, and its shown through his clothes that he’s slowly living his true potential
The thing is, you need to know 10 abilities if you want to fight properly. And it seems like ever skin will have different color and effect palette. So we need to learn 10 different skill for each skins
the dullness of the outfit is to contrast how vivid his abilities are. you see this demonstrated in his colour story, where he's surrounded in colour, yet still bleak.
Jhin & Hwei Bot lane works way better than you would expect. Honestly, hwei is a better sup than most sups, just build mana and a shit ton of haste and give The fast more speed and shields or CC the hell out of everybody. Is seriously good.
Pretty sure Jhin and Hwei do have an in-game rivals event, once they reach certain lv the 1st one 2 get the other with their ult gains perm stat bonuses. Glad they didn't go the spirit route, after nilah it would be a bit of an overload, especially if they didn't give the spirit ANY agency/gameplay again. Really glad Hwei got a "color" story, but Naafiri srsly needs one...idk about Briar her whole deal is weird. K'sante could have been high-skillcap if the result wasn't simply stunlock the enemy if 1 ability lands, there should be a 1 sec unit target CD that stops him from CCing repeatedly to the same unit like it is for Aatrox kinda, but this would still let him cast abilities and CC other units. It would be REALLY silly for them 2 stop color stories. Stuff like Arcan only exists bc it can play off the existing IP, if u reduce ur IP then u reduce what your other engagement can pull from, they want people to engage in the lore, but there won't be anything to engage in, in ANY media if u dont start with the basics, and TAKE CARE OF YOUR WRITERS!!!!
Does anyone feel like his abilities actually pair well with their other spellbook counterpart? Like... his EQ and QQ are good for trading and retrieving, EW helps land QW and EE lines up QE. im not tripping am i ? 😭
I wish they could have incorporated the whole “paint to life” concept more like making his q e be a fire trail or his w w be a bubble. His e kinda does a cool job of portraying it with the eye and hands but otherwise it’s kind of just a mess of colors imo.
about Jhin, people know of the golden demon of Ionïa, but who actually know's of Jhin ? The killer named the golden Demon was captured, and bring to justice by shen and Zed Master, and this cabale of Ionïa use him has a weapon againt's Noxian, but does the populace actually KNOW his face of his appareance ?
People are still speculating that Hwei has a connection to demons, just because it wasn't explicitly revealed doesn't mean he doesn't have that connection
"That doesn't make sense because that means they let a rampant serial murderer stay at their house" Ok fair point Nicky however counterpoint, The Catholic church actively helped high level Nazi's escape Germany in WW2 after Berlin fell so it's not like it's out of the realm of realism that they knew who Jhin was
I dont even play ranked and I'm constantly going against emerald players. while that's annoying, what's more annoying is when my mid laner is level 34, new to the game, and first timing a champion.
I don't care about people complaining about his looking or saying that his abilities are copy/past from others. I never had so much fun playing a lol champion before. He is amazing, so many options and possibilities of gameplay. Maybe because i'm also a MMORPG player, so i'm used to have many skills to use. Playing with Hwei feels like playing with a mage from world of warcraft. I loved it.
Nicky boi, Jhin wears a mask, like, noone knows who jhin is, what do you meannnnn We as the audience don't even know what Jhin looks like, unless he is wearing his serial killer outfit, like if I showed off a fanart of Jhin without his mask it would just be some guy Edit, also this is facts, I've played yone, missed ult, missed q, missed e, somehow, and still got a kill with just autos and ignite
Thank god hwei got a short story as well Honestly such a refreshing champion. He is my favorite in a long time. Ionia stays winning Oh boy I cannot way for nikyboi to talk about my favourite champion gwen
i like that his clothes are dull and somewhat dirty-looking: not only it conveys the lack of care he has for his appearance (any shut-in artist can relate lmao), it also symbolizes his suppressed nature once you compare them to the vibrant colour of his spells
If he was dressed in modern times, he would 100% be wearing scoffed black pants, a black shirt with a small band logo and black shoes
@@schaakakon9473 the shirt would also have stains of unknown origin and the pants would be at least 5 years old
@@bectip2229 *Everything* has stains of unknown origin! And you will never, ever get them out no matter how much or what kind of cleaning solution you use!
An artist must suffer for their art, that's why its called a "Pain-ting"
Forgot where the quote came from
the champ spotlighht
@@OtherwiseUknownMonkey nah I remember it from like teen sitcom
It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia
Ned's Declassified School Survival Guide.
Nicky, the temple was Jhin's first "artwork" since being broken out of prison, legit nobody knew who he was
Also dude wear a mask, right?
When he’s doing a murder ye
I think Hwei's clothing also are supposed to contrast with Jhin, they both have purple, but Jhin's cloth looks fancier, like he's more vain. Jhin is a egotistical and prideful artist, while Hwei is quite literally a humble monk. Jhin has gold ornaments and contraptions, Hwei only has very delicate fabrics. Jhin is always in the center stage of his performances, he wants the recognition, the "applause", Hwei is more "the art speaks for itself, the body is only the medium it speaks through". Also, Jhin has a patron, Hwei is quite literally the poor starving artist with no home.
I like Hwei's looks! It's like a "realistic" Runeterra version of the freelance artist: depressed, sleep-deprived, malnourished, so busy/commited to the craft he can't even manage to be angry when given The Sad Backstory, and wearing the ionian version of a tracksuit. Also is Vitamin D deficient
damn spitting facts there
His lack of anger always seemed to me to be more trauma-related than a matter of being busy or fatigued. On the day that Jhin did the Big Destroy, it came as such a surprise to Hwei and things happened so quickly that he couldn't understand what was happening.
Hwei felt sadness, anger, loss, but also perhaps gratitude and happiness at Jhin destroying his 'cage', contradictions that maybe Hwei felt he wasn't 'allowed' to feel. That's how I interpret Hwei's abilities: they're him trying to process a whole glut of emotions in the aftermath of Jhin's destruction, anchored to that point in his past and yet irreparably colouring his perception of the world and himself as he tries to move on.
Perhaps the reason Hwei is depressed isn't because he's sad, but because his emotions are so intense that he can't let himself feel them all at once or else it would break him. His art is so focused on singular themes as a way of compartmentalising emotions and memories, letting him re-experience and deal with them one by one, reducing the emotional burden bit by bit so he can slowly make his way back to a place where his emotions are less heavy, less scary.
I really like the idea of Hwei's art as therapy. It makes a lot of sense to me.
I haven’t really seen a lot of Hwei’s lore but I like his event with Jhin. Hopefully we’ll see more of those in the future like Nasus vs Renekton, Pantheon vs Aatrox or Lewis vs Rek’Sai
Thankfully its confirmed that this is coming next season!
Who in the 9 hells is Lewis?
@@furo6340 kassadins real name
@@furo6340 belveth autocorrected.
now if u read the lore.
Bro as a Lewis main ive been waiting to see some1 else mention him. Havent seen him played in years
The reason the temple would "welcome a serial murderer" is because Khada Jhin is an alias and he wears a mask. Take off the mask and drop the stage name, and suddenly Jhin is just an eccentric guy. *That* is who they allowed to stay with them.
Jhin and Hwei didn't fight, Jhin just noticed that Hwei was holding back and confronted him on it. Hwei then showed him what he was hiding, it was a vulnerable moment, not a violent one.
I said this on the Skin Spotlight video showcasing the champion and I'll say it here: I hope Hwei gets a Bob Ross themed skin. Legendary that gets him more optimistic lines, appreciating the art he makes and shares. Ivern could participate in the skinline as the lonely tree who needed a friend.
This is honestly a beautifull idea.
nothing infuriates me more than the fact that rito wont listen to community skin ideas like this cuz they have to give us more pool party skins
@@IkSaRbara cosplay star gardian urgot
@@JDReC100 if you look into it they weren't even really happy with that skin in the community. The original skin was different.
I like the emo trio lol. Vex being angry, Hwei being sadge and Aphelios being the quiet kid lmao
Dont forget zed and/or kayn who are trying too hard
theyre not emo, theyre just absolute edgelords@@meeeberperson
I feel like Im going insane because I think why jhin and hwei aren't just a revenge story is because they have almost a Hannibal/will Graham relationship
It's toxic but jhin unlocked hwei and sees him as an equal (hwei challenges jhins view of art and jhin challenges hweis morality and makes him push the boundaries that hwei was kinda reluctant to unlock only hiding his fascination in the dark)
Yes, I'd say that's a lot more accurate than mere revenge. In his voice lines, Hwei has a very love/hate relationship with Jhin: Hwei recognises Jhin both as the source of extreme violence and pain in his life, but also as the catalyst that allowed him and his art to break free from tradition and expectation to become more true to himself and his experience.
In the voice lines that trigger when Hwei slays Jhin, he isn't angry or vengeful, but rather he sounds like he wants Jhin to understand what he's been through and how Jhin helped him to grow (not that this would happen because Jhin is 100% a psychopath, but still).
My one fear is that Riot will take the wrong idea from Hwei's winrate and turn him into the next K'Sante even though he was obviously designed with a high skill floor and next season's items in mind.
I think Hwei's sunken cheeks and lanky frame reflects the phrase "starving artist". Whether that was done purposefully or not is to be determined xD
You say that it's surprising how Hwei wasn't in the boy band in the end card, do you remember the backlash Riot got last time they coincided a champion's release with a music video? I really don't think Riot wants to have another Seraphine situation so they played it safe and if Heartsteel gets a second go he's 100% going to be a part of it, they probably also didn't want Hwei's story to be overshadowed by the boy band stuff either.
I know it’s present in almost every single one of these casual champ reviews but I love the discussion being interrupted by what’s happening in the game. It’s funny beyond belief for some reason.
Ugh it’s a shame Naafiri and Briar didn’t get any stories but I’m happy Hwei got one.
I KNOW BRIAR SHORT STORY COULDVE BEEN SOO GOOD
Personally, I like all aspects of Hwei's character. His gameplay feels complex and interesting (a lot like his character's personality/emotions). His clothing and walk animation portray his apathetic emptiness very well. His color scheme also conveys his character well, with the only bright part of his character being his paint smear hovering behind him, the volatile and potentially dangerous part of him that he has to decide between containing it for the sake of others, or becoming similar to Jhin and unleashing his creativity at the expense of others. I also love difficult-to-play control mages like Viktor and Azir, so adding Hwei to that line-up is really nice.
Overall, he feels engaging and coherent in gameplay, lore, and design, which makes him the first new character that I've really wanted to play in a long time.
From the start, I interpreted all the gold and demon hints as references to Jhin because he's "The Golden Demon". And I'm honestly glad they gave Hwei proper paint magic, as was teased since the very first teaser and confirmed during champion roadmaps, instead of suddenly tying those powers to a demon. I like demons, but I prefer this a lot more and it's what I got hyped for, so I would have felt cheated if it turned out to be just demon power
I kinda like his colors being muted, makes me think how it is easy to see him in the middle of his abilities , since it's such a contrast.
I gotta feeling that when Jhin went into the temple, he probably didn’t have his traditional outfit or had a different mask. Something that didn’t make him super obvious
Maybe he went without his mask. Remember that he has a common face under his mask
It may have been before Jhin was infamous, Hwei isn't exactly young (early to mid 30s.) And it's unclear how old he and Jhin were when they met, the events between them easily could have happened a decade or more ago.
I actually find him surprisingly simple to play. Sure I still need to get used to him and sometimes I have a brain fart and mess up my inputs but he really isn't that difficult.
I think what helps is that all of his abilities are very straight forward. He doesn't have a dash or cooldown resets or weird overcomplicated passives, just a wide array of simple abilities with different uses. Riot showed a surprising amount of restraint here.
exactly, i think they did a good job in keeping his design simply while fitting the theme and giving you a lot of variety in which spells to choose
they wanted to make an artillery mage, and they mage an artillery mage.
Riot did a pretty good job on this one
Yeah, at first I heard that "Oh League got Invoker!" and went "Oh no, that won't go well there". But nah, he's pretty simple, each color is a type of spell, go nuts. Good execution for League's ecosystem.
Ive decided Hwei and Jhin are now classified as "Number Champions"
I like his colors the most from his outfit! Looking dull is exactly what is going on in his head and if he looked all uptight and slick it would be wierd. The overall green color he has really reminds me of the color that you get as a result of cleaning your brushes in a rug, and to a champion all about paint its super nice!
Also colors mashed up together quite chaotically symbolizes that he doesnt know how to proceed out of the "paths" laid in front of him, which is his main struggle, the only solid color he has is golden that is the main color of his ultimate, foreshadowing (I hope) that he wont have fullfilment out of picking a path, the strengh in art is that it can makes us feel a lot of different things and one type of art will never be above another, its all about what Hwei feels the need to create. Once he realizes that he can not be such a mess. Or maybe an azakana is feeding on his negativity and once he deals with them he will have closure. Idk its too early to tell.
The dull colors on his clothes remind me of picasso's blue period. A period when picasso focused on colder duller colors to encompass sorrow.
I personaly very like his design. The dull color, with a peak a vibrant orange and red is selling the idea that he is moody but with a wild imagination
My crockpot theory is that they let Jhin stay there because they low key wanted him to kill Hwei. But then Jhin was interested in Hwei’s chaotic energy and decided he liked him.
So he did the whole thing where he challenged Hwei to show him his true passion or whatever, and then killed the rest of the masters and burnt the temple in a way that Hwei would think he did it.
Being honest, gameplay-wise I would pretty easily adjust to Hwei due to having playing Ninja in Final Fantasy 14.
His kit is pretty much Mudras, but trading the Bunny of Shame if you mess up on FF14 for being frustrated on League... which is part of the course.
thats the exact comparison id made to my friends lol, hes super simple if youve played any game with more than three buttons for combos
My ass that played dmc5
I dont get people calling this champion complicated, it's actually desgned to be really simple to understand.
q- dmg (normal, artillery, waveclear)
w- utility (speed, shield, mana)
e- cc (fear, root, displacement)
That's pretty much it, obviously there's more depth to it but it's not hard to understand
He has a normal Mage Kit, but has access to one of 3 Main Ability Options. Combos Trees are possible, but every Q-W-E Share the cooldown Respectivly. Its not to agonizing as it feels at first. Everything is about Number 3, Edgelords are always Welcome for me and as someone who loves Art and Sound Design, am I very satisfied with him!
i feel like saying he has 9 abilities is super missleading
he has 3 abilities but each ability can be cast in a different way,
utility kinda drives away from that by giving different efects but it's not hard to remember,speedzone nami buff and shield lol
If he actually had access to all 3 Qs, Ws and Es at the same time, he would actually be complicated, and also way cooler than he is right now. Rn his entire depth is just choosing which E to combo into which Q and then follow up with WE to regain some mana and do some followup damage
And then you just spam Qs until your other abilities come off cooldown
@@somo4227 almost like how vicktor augments could have been. Choose between dif augment items as a permanent change in how his abilities work the rest of the game. but instead he just has it as part of his kit instead of as an ability upgrade like so many other champs have
honestly yeah. i watched a quick video on some extremely basic concepts as to how he's played (q/e for waveclear and w/e for mana regain, fish for e/x abilities and take advantage of what you get) and then branched from that into actually playing him somewhat proficiently. he's a LOT of fun and i honestly haven't had as much fun playing league as i have playing him
it's beyond satisfying to be able to have a plan in mind and seamlessly execute it, even while under pressure. his kit just.. flows really well from ability to ability. like, his most basic combo is e-q-q-q lmao
Iirc Jhin was never revealed as the golden demon to the public bc it would cause unrest that an ionian did it instead of a demon.
Also Hwei is looking for Jhin, wanting answers not just going out helping people.
I’m on holiday rn but I cannot wait to play Hwei. Looks so interesting to learn and I bet mastering him will look really cool
Hwei trusted Jhin. Now Ionians are dead.
The only problem i have with Hwei is that while i think its cool each of his 3 colors and skills are all themed similarly, i feel Riot was too scared of making Hwei more complex by trying some bigger differences between his skills combinations.
Nahhh the Gwen denial is insane
As a bronze player queing with my silver friend, we have been constantly matched with plat or emerald so I fell that 0:15
If the new champion is this complex, imagin the future champs that will come later (Asside from the skarner rework)
i wouldnt even call him complex, he just has more very basic abilities. champions like nidalee and jayce have 8 themselves, he just has 2 more and can only use 4 at a time. not that different. compare him to invoker, his counterpart in dota 2 and you will be thankful for the way he is. (also i think hes great and very fun to play)
@@Sparkofshurima from what i see, invoker has three components for his spells, and none of them share a cooldown. then again, it seems like every DOTA 2 hero is rather insane compared to league champs
@@Sparkofshurima yeah, it isnt too bad for an "advanced mage. Its prolly still harder to play the old Asol and worry about hitting your orbs by keeping distance... and there are plenty of other advanced mechanics. This one surely has good combos but def is just a ranged mage and can be played alot like a xerath with a different ult
@@Underworlder5 you have to just know the combinations of his spells. its very hard for new players. i havent played dota in forever so i hope im not saying anything wrong here but i just like hwei way more.
@@Underworlder5 Dota2's heroes are pretty focused on calculare the most efficient time to use that Q ability that cost you half of your mana and 30s cooldown. Yup, their normal abilities can be as crazy as League's ult.
7:40 the demon hinting could be hinting at Jhin since he's called "the Golden Demon", and was thought to be one for a while.
I'm not big into league, my friends shoved me into its lore department to get me away from spoiling myself in ffxiv (lol) so I went through the champions list and my eye, for some reason, caught Hwei. Yes, the artist. I am one as well, I swear its never intentional but my friends notice its a pattern.
I went to go look for videos and watched this one while drawing. And I loved it! I love the energy you give, the gameplay to glance to in the background, its all very nice.
All of this to say, I thuroughly enjoyed the video. Thank you very much!
It would be a fantastic character plot twist if Hwei wasnt to rival Jhin, but instead to join him. If he at all felt beauty in seing his temple in flames, it would already make sense for him to join Jhin, as they have similar interests in art. Maybe if Hwei joined Jhin he would show him his full potential, and then Jhin would show him the dark side of it. But maybe instead of being tempted to join the dark side like Jhin, he would remain neutral. Not being a nice guy, but also not a bad guy.
I mean, "color story" for the artist champ. I think it was a necessity this time around
the twink mage is alive and real
I really expected Nicky to comment on the fact that we finally have a new artillery mage after nearly 10 years xD
Ma boy nicky boy playin ma boy hwei in this BOYISH day
Fr home boy
nah boy cause when my boy hwei play he lowk play like the 🐐
I think in lore hwei’s temple is the third location where jhin did his murder spree its why, hwei’s thing against jhin all have the number 3 attached to it like when hwei kills jhin with his ult he gains 3% magic penetration
I also loved in his lore that Jhin only did 3 tragedies(the art, the masters, the building), and Hwei is intended to be the 4th. And whether Hwei falls to darkness or strives to be better determines who's number rises...
Personally I like his design as his whole story is someone who is both aware and scared of his power. He hasn’t fully embraced it yet so it works but I do wish he had a splash of colour here and there
Love Hwei honestly. He's a real swiss army knife champion and I think that makes him unique. He can do anything and unlike certain other 'high skill' champions *CoughAkshanCough* he isn't made to fit every situation just because one of his 3 ability's multiple passives fixes it. He's an honest to goodness SKILL BASED CHARACTER!
So did the entire community gaslight itself into thinking this guy was going to be the next Ur-Demon?
Yeah, because the rioters said something like he is a depress person and use ink, so many of us deduct that he carries the Demon of the sadness. Also, in that time we get Nilah... I know, we get excited😅.
4:50
"I'm losing....to a support..."
me, an ADC main: hi Nicky welcome to my life for the past like 5+ years :D
I apparently bought Hwei right after his release but, because of irl stuff, never really had the time, energy or motivation to try him out.
Now almost a year later I downloaded league on a new PC to try out Swarm, remembered I had Hwei, decided to try his spells out in the practice mode, for some reason think "his Q's kinda remind me of Vel'koz" (who I mained for a while), and then proceed to actually have fun learning him in regular PvP games.
I haven't had this much fun actually learning a sorta newly released champion since Jhin, and that's right after taking a over half year long break from LoL.
How.
I can’t remember the exact source, but I remember learning once that the name Khada Jhin translates to Golden Demon (I can’t remember which language is being translated from). So, it wasn’t a relationship to a literal demon, but Hwei does have a connection to the Golden Demon. It’s a bit of a cop out, but could be interesting to see how Zed and Shen interact with Hwei in future lore.
Do you know the Hwei to my heart??
So yeah actually I was on my way there and I wanted to check if it was the first or the second left after the stomach 🤔
Damn if you did do Gwen this week I could've submitted some fan art sadge
its next week so get to working
I love to play Aphelios and Hwei is like an AP aphelios I can play with. So I only played him for three games but I did pretty well and it felt great
at 14:50 i noticed a bug i think, you aimed QE and your QQ came out in the opposite direction, had this happen to me but thought i had a brainfart or something
3:42 No one outside of Shen, Zed, The Maker and i presuma Akali and Kayn know the identity of who the golden demon was. It is confirmed that it was never even revealed to the general public that Jhin was a human. The general population believes that Jhin was a demon who was destroyed or otherwise pacified when in reality he was just inprisoned.
Jhin is also a master of disguise (on an old Q&A board i believe it was even confirmed that he can manipulate his facial structure) so he could have just went there in disguise and told them that he was a totally different guy named Jhin.
Mordekaiser mains predicted this champion's name years ago.
12:01 the shock from not killing alistar killed him :(
Honestly, I thought he would have more base damage in his kit and since his QE and EE are pretty big spells, I wanted to try to play him as a control mage, but then I deal almost no damage and I still have pretty lacklustre spells if I'm not ahead. I honestly think that unless new items are going to change that about him, I dunno if I will be playing Hwei as I thought I was going to.
I kinda wanna see it turn into a Palpatine/Vader relationship. I think that would be fun for Hwei and Jhin
Hwei is actually Brassius from Pokémon SV and you can't say otherwise
I really love the spellbook design. It's really cool for a mage
Hey Nicky, you wanna talk about that there QQ at 14:52 there bud?
I'm a simple man: I see a champion with supportive abilities, support brain wants to play them no matter how difficult they are.
I'd actually be really happy if support Hwei is good because support honestly feels like a really easy role in terms of champs. Sure we have complicated supports like Rell or Renata but even then it still boils down to "hit CC button, hit shield button, hit ult, go crazy go stupid." I hope support Hwei actually has some playmaking potential outside of hitting CC.
If I recall there are 2 reasons why they welcomed Jhin
His island was secluded, and it was Jhin's first major tragedy he committed
At least for me, the dull color attire hwei has is pretty much what monks have outside of their traditional robes, cause it’s supposed to be dull it’s supposed to be simple cause it’s all hwei knows growing up, and i even think he dyed his clothes those new colors cause he wants to move up from his old life
Basically from his dull one basic color clothing to now somewhat a more lively clothing, he still cant fully escape his old ways of teachings but theres an effort, and its shown through his clothes that he’s slowly living his true potential
He's a painter. He had to have color story🎨
I like the theory that hwei invokes the demons powers with his subjects of art
The thing is, you need to know 10 abilities if you want to fight properly. And it seems like ever skin will have different color and effect palette. So we need to learn 10 different skill for each skins
Crazy that we've already had 2 champion releases since this series began
One detail i notices is the UI changes colour based on wich book you are on
the dullness of the outfit is to contrast how vivid his abilities are. you see this demonstrated in his colour story, where he's surrounded in colour, yet still bleak.
He is so fun to play. And the mixmatching of abilities is awesome. But he still feels underpowered
at 14:50 why did the QQ go behind when the cursor was in front?
Jhin & Hwei Bot lane works way better than you would expect. Honestly, hwei is a better sup than most sups, just build mana and a shit ton of haste and give The fast more speed and shields or CC the hell out of everybody. Is seriously good.
Faerie court Hwei would be nice, cause fairies are known for painting insects
Pretty sure Jhin and Hwei do have an in-game rivals event, once they reach certain lv the 1st one 2 get the other with their ult gains perm stat bonuses.
Glad they didn't go the spirit route, after nilah it would be a bit of an overload, especially if they didn't give the spirit ANY agency/gameplay again.
Really glad Hwei got a "color" story, but Naafiri srsly needs one...idk about Briar her whole deal is weird.
K'sante could have been high-skillcap if the result wasn't simply stunlock the enemy if 1 ability lands, there should be a 1 sec unit target CD that stops him from CCing repeatedly to the same unit like it is for Aatrox kinda, but this would still let him cast abilities and CC other units.
It would be REALLY silly for them 2 stop color stories. Stuff like Arcan only exists bc it can play off the existing IP, if u reduce ur IP then u reduce what your other engagement can pull from, they want people to engage in the lore, but there won't be anything to engage in, in ANY media if u dont start with the basics, and TAKE CARE OF YOUR WRITERS!!!!
Does anyone feel like his abilities actually pair well with their other spellbook counterpart?
Like... his EQ and QQ are good for trading and retrieving, EW helps land QW and EE lines up QE. im not tripping am i ? 😭
I wish they could have incorporated the whole “paint to life” concept more like making his q e be a fire trail or his w w be a bubble. His e kinda does a cool job of portraying it with the eye and hands but otherwise it’s kind of just a mess of colors imo.
Invoker in Dota 1 had 27 spells.
In Dota 2 he now has 10 spells.
No old invoker had 27 spells was immediately removed after a few months, he was then reworked and added back in 2008 with his 10 spells.
Jhin uses a mask hide his identity like any other serial killer
about Jhin, people know of the golden demon of Ionïa, but who actually know's of Jhin ? The killer named the golden Demon was captured, and bring to justice by shen and Zed Master, and this cabale of Ionïa use him has a weapon againt's Noxian, but does the populace actually KNOW his face of his appareance ?
Even Akali, Shen'w former apprentice working DIRECTLY under him, had no idea who he was or what it meant.
bro how baffled I was when Hwei came out and literal supports had more dmg and a bigger health pool.
Ah yes, the physical personification of artists block.
I love his connection to Jhin, as a Jhin main
seeing little nickyman build luddens against a team with three tanks is painful
are we gonna get NickyBoi videos of them playing arena?
Didn't think Nicki would like Hwei, that was unexpected
People are still speculating that Hwei has a connection to demons, just because it wasn't explicitly revealed doesn't mean he doesn't have that connection
"That doesn't make sense because that means they let a rampant serial murderer stay at their house" Ok fair point Nicky however counterpoint, The Catholic church actively helped high level Nazi's escape Germany in WW2 after Berlin fell so it's not like it's out of the realm of realism that they knew who Jhin was
0:20 literally me in draft, im bronze 4 but i have to play against diamonds and emeralds a lot, it just blows my mind how riot thinks its fair
Finally the perfect friend for Amumu
I dont even play ranked and I'm constantly going against emerald players. while that's annoying, what's more annoying is when my mid laner is level 34, new to the game, and first timing a champion.
6:54 basically Kratos? well, after his revenge on Zeus
I still find it weird for an artist character to have individual spells to be so... uninspired
I don't care about people complaining about his looking or saying that his abilities are copy/past from others. I never had so much fun playing a lol champion before. He is amazing, so many options and possibilities of gameplay. Maybe because i'm also a MMORPG player, so i'm used to have many skills to use. Playing with Hwei feels like playing with a mage from world of warcraft. I loved it.
Nicky boi, Jhin wears a mask, like, noone knows who jhin is, what do you meannnnn
We as the audience don't even know what Jhin looks like, unless he is wearing his serial killer outfit, like if I showed off a fanart of Jhin without his mask it would just be some guy
Edit, also this is facts, I've played yone, missed ult, missed q, missed e, somehow, and still got a kill with just autos and ignite
Hwei is the official disaster child of League, and i love it😂
he looks like the tester from ratatouille but as a teenager in 2023
No Hwei Nicky lost that game bro, no frickin Hwei.
Thank god hwei got a short story as well
Honestly such a refreshing champion. He is my favorite in a long time. Ionia stays winning
Oh boy I cannot way for nikyboi to talk about my favourite champion gwen
So what I understood from his lore is that he’s a psychopath