Manipuri & Bishnupriya Manipuri: 100 Years Down The History (A Perfect Case Study)
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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
- Here is an attempt to understand the issue related to the Meitei jati and the Bishnupriya Manipuri jati.
The relation between the Meitei jati and Bishnupriya Manipuris is a perfect CASE STUDY.
The video begins with quoting some articles against the Bishnupriya Manipuri jati. Then it goes to 1970s to understand what was going on between these two jatis.
From 1970, the video takes to 1930s-1940s, then 1960s-1970s, 1980s-1990, 1990-2000, and at last from 2000 to the present time.
With Manipur being the case study. The relationship that these two jatis has undergone in odd 100 years. It is too a case study that one must understand.
The issue is away from media-glare, but it has its own twists and turns in the events between these two jatis.
1930s-1940s:
• Manipuri & Bishnupriya...
+ British Declaration: Manipuri as Tribal
+ Formation of Mahasabhas both by the jatis: Meitei and Bishnupriya Manipuri
+ Apokpa Marup appears in Cachar (Barak Valley) Assam.
1960s-1970s:
• Manipuri & Bishnupriya...
+ 'Religion before Hinduism' sown by Meitei Marup starts getting official validity in Manipur.
+ Bishnupriya Manipuris in Assam (Cachar, Barak Valley, Silchar) starts demanding education in their language.
1970s-1980s:
• Manipuri & Bishnupriya...
+ Government of India in principle agrees to Bishnupriya Manipuri demand.
+ Meitei of Assam (Cachar/ Barak Valley) against the decision.
+ Bishnupriya Manipuris tries to place their 'origin' & language to Manipur.
+ In Manipur, anti-Hinduism forces had already taken control of academics, land, politics and base of subscribers.
1980s-1990s:
• Manipuri & Bishnupriya...
+ In 1983, Assam Government agrees to the Bishnupriya Manipuri demands.
+ Manipur Government objects to the Assam Government decision. Assam Government stay its order.
1990s-2000s:
• Manipuri & Bishnupriya...
+ Tripura Government agrees to the Bishnupriya Manipuri demands.
+ Assam Government removes the stay order.
+ Manipur Government pressurises Assam Government. Again the order gets stayed.
2000-Till Now:
• Manipuri & Bishnupriya...
+ In 2002 Manipur Government sets up 'Committee against the Claims of the Bishnupriya'
+ The issue turns legal.
+ In 2006, Supreme Court of India allows Bishnupriya Manipuri to use 'Manipuri' as suffix/ prefix.
The relationship between the Meitei jati and Bishnupriya Manipuri jati on 'Manipuri' is indeed a perfect case study.
It brings forth lack of intellectual rigour of academicians, activists, and on ground workers on Sanatan Dharma. And of course the anti-Hinduism machinery that worked brilliantly post Independence.
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I am from Assam and being an Assamese i have seen and grown with both communities. What i learned from my grandparents is that Bishnupriya Manipuris are the actual Manipuris. Most of the Bishnupriya population writes themselves as meitei Or speak meitei language in manipur... Hence a large chunk of the population decreased from Bishnupriya. And Bishnupriya are the only community of this country who is pure sanatan and they don't have any Islamic division among them... We all love them here in Assam..
Being born and brought up in Assam , we are proud of Assam government and Assamese people for such respect and even including us a khilonjiya and accepting and recognising our language 🤝
@@Uhuman1 hello mate. I'm an Aryan Assamese Brahmin from my father side and my mom is an Aryan English woman from Wolverhampton in UK. I have mix parentage of Aryan English and Brahmin. Vishnupriyas are from ancient Kamrupi Aryan Buddhist stock and are related to Kalita caste of Assam so that is why they were called Kalishas. Kalitas of Assam are older than Brahmins Aryans are progneiture of Assamese language. Kalitas were said to be originated from Nuristan region of Afghanistan and were a Kamboja tribe entered Assam through Tibet first founded their kingdom in Arunachal Pradesh. Then they conquered whole Northeast and which came to be know as Kamrupa. They called their Kingdom Kamrupa because they are a Kamboja tribe and Nuristan was also known as Kambrom and Kamdesh. Then during Bhaskar Varman reign he invaded Gauda empire of Sasanka and drove him out to south. Then Kamrupa expanded westward to include whole Bengal region, Bihar east of Koshi and Orissa region. Then Kamboja tribe of Assam settled in Bengal, Bihar and Orissa and founded Pala dynasty of Bengal and Bihar and Bhouma dynasty in Orissa. The some sections of Maithili brahmins, Bangaja and Varendra Kayastha of Bengal and Kuilta caste of Orissa have Kamboja ancestry. Then in 12th century Kamrupa kingdom started weaking due to internal feud. And large number of barons and sherrifs of kamrupa kings declared independence and call themselves Baro Bhuyan. On the other hand. Nomadic hordes from Burma and Tibet who spoke Sino-Tibetan languages started penetrating Northeast first they were captured hill regions and slowly the plains. And Kamrupa kingdom stagnated and divided into several principalities Kachari, Chutiya, Dimasa, Jayantia, Tripura and Manipur. However Western portion of Kamrupa were unaffected by Mongoloid invasions till Koch Rajbongshi takeover in 1532 AD. And it was called Kamrupa still ruled by Kayastha kings. So Lower Assam flourished as an Aryan colony and even today Lower Assam area still you find Aryan people dominate. But other regions were captured by Mongoloids and made them look like China. And among these Mongoloids sino tibetans are barbaric only Tai Ahom people were civillised. Then speaking about Manipur. The home of Meitei was the Chindwin valley. In Chindwin valley the proto ancestors of Southern Nagas, Karbis, Meiteis, Kukis, Chins and Mizo lived but in 1268 due to invasion of Mongol ruler Kublai Khan in Myanmar. They fled Chindwin valley and came to settled in their present habitats. But Karbis, Nagas, Kukis, Chins and Mizo settled in hills so remained barbaric who lived on headhunting and have worn animal skin. But the valley region was inhabited by Kamboja Aryan tribe. Just like the Kalitas of Assam. Meiteis originally lived in hills and were part of Tangkhul tribe but during the reign of Kyamba they invaded Valley region of Manipur where the Kambojas were ruling as Baro Bhuyans since the downfall of Kamrupa. And most inscription in Meitei language are found only after Kiyamba's reign. There are no inscription older than Kiyamba's reign. Kiyamba was a nomad he followed Sanamahi religion but when he came into contact with Kamboja he copied their culture and attire. Which now they claim it to be their own. Then he came into contact with Shan people and he learned their script and created Meitei Mayek. He built vishnu temple and the town came to be known as Vishnupur. The Vishnu idol was originally a Buddhist statue gifted from Shan king. But since he was a Pagan didn't knew how to worship it. So he brought two Brahmin priest from Assam who were Shankar Deva's disciples they started worshipping in that Vishnu temple. And Meiteis were reluctant to convert to Mahapurushiya religion of Assam but Buddhist Kamboja who were called Kalishas and are related to Kalita caste converted to Mahapurushiya cult. The Nuristani people call themselves Kalasha mon. And from that word Kalita and Kalisha came into existence. Then large portion of Mahapurushiya culture including Satriya nritya came was introduced to Manipur which evolved into today's Manipuri dance. But Meiteis call Bishnupriya as Bangladeshi which is absurd. From Kiyamba's reign till the annexation of Manipur in 1891 AD, 78 Brahmin families came and settled in Manipur from all over India including Bangladesh became Meiteis. Then Kshetimayums are Rajputs and Lairikyengbams are Kayasthas who came in 18th century and became Meiteis. Then among Meiteis artisan castes like Thangam, Thangjam, Eithibis, Phuritsabam are Dalits who came from Bengal. And Pangals were Mughal soldiers from Sylhet. So Meiteis have 20% bangladeshi ancestry. Then in 1707 Santidas Gossain converted Meiteis into vaishnavism which was Ramanadi cult however Bhagyachandra embraced Chaitanya cult and from then onwards both Meitei and Vishnupriya became Chaitanyapanthi. But Bhagyachandra copied Satriya Nritya from Vishnupriya which was taught by Sankardevas follower and made Manipuri dance. Them due to Burmese Konbaung dynasty invasion incredible numbers of Vishhnupriya fled Manipur and settled in Assam, Tripura and Bangladesh. But those who remained in Manipur were absorbed by Meiteis. Vishnupriya and Assamese language have more proto indo european features than even sanskrit and it's daughter languages which are bastardised by dravidian vocabulary including retroflex. But Assamese and Vishnupriya has minor dravidian influences comparing to North Indian languages. These languages retained pronunciation of X which is found in all Aryan lnguages of Europe and Middle east except for English. But in scottish dialect x pronunciation is found even in old english this x pronunciation is found. Source: Satyakam Phukan's Tonkori and PC Chaudhry History of People of Assam. And some others are my own personal research.
@@Grandshgun2908 wonderful research bro learnt a lot , we bishnupriya Manipuri and Assamese are epicentre of Vaishnavism ❤️🤝
@@Grandshgun2908Wow! Really appreciate the knowledge you have shared. You have cleared some of my research & misunderstandings and increased my know-how 😊. Thanks to you 👍🙏
@@Grandshgun2908Great Superb Research and Analysis 💯💯💯💯🙏🙏
Proud to be a Bishnupriya Manipuri and nobody can take away our identity which is Manipuri from us and Supreme Court too has accepted that so no point fighting.
U r not real meitei so keep quit sister 🙂😉u r bishnupriya bengali.not Manipuri ok bye2
@@hiteshelangbam2944 You are Meitei Khai. She is not Meitei at all , be real or fake. She is Bishnupriya Manipuri, the real Manipuri. So shut your mouth you Meitei khai, the fake Manipuri.
So proud I am like you to be called Bishnupriya Manipuri. Thanks.
@Hitesh Elangbam Do you have any proof that we are Bishnupriya Bengali and not Bishnupriya Manipuri? If yes then go to the court and prove it and I know you will loose again🤣🤣. As we already won twice High Court and Supreme Court as well.
You kalisha
We are meitei ( indigenous people of Manipur) we are not hindu , we belongs to Sanamahism not Hindu. Hope my comment's clear all the confusion. And some thankful for your effort for this video, This video helps other to know our state, but there are some wrong statement that's why Iam correcting, Hope you don't mind.
But it’s Hindu only in your language
We have our culture and religion
@@Clearconceptshindi2023 we have our own language and letters , please get's information from googles if u want to know more or if u have doubt,No more discussion please.
@@Clearconceptshindi2023 hindu and sanamahism are completely different religions.. please know the truth before opening you filthy mouth
@@Clearconceptshindi2023 ꯍꯩ ꯃꯤ ꯃꯤꯅꯥꯏ .. this is our script.. already in Google keyboard..
ꯁꯦꯝꯕꯤ ꯃꯨꯀꯥꯛꯂꯩ ꯃꯔꯨꯗꯣ ꯫ꯏꯒꯤ ꯄꯜ ꯅꯝꯈꯥꯢꯈ꯭ꯔꯦ ꯫ ꯅꯣꯡꯆꯨꯞ ꯊꯣꯡ ꯍꯥꯡꯈꯤꯕ ꯀꯨꯢꯔꯦ꯫ ꯅꯣꯡꯄꯣꯛ ꯊꯣꯡꯗꯤ ꯂꯣꯟꯈ꯭ꯔꯦ꯫
ꯄꯨꯝꯅꯃꯛ ꯂꯣꯢꯈ꯭ꯔꯁꯅꯨ ꯫ ꯍꯧꯖꯤꯛꯇꯤ ꯃꯤꯇꯩ ꯁꯂꯥꯢ ꯇꯔꯦꯠ ꯄꯨꯝꯕ ꯑꯃꯠꯇ ꯑꯣꯢꯔꯁꯦ ꯫ꯃꯤꯇꯩꯗꯤ ꯃꯤꯇꯩ ꯑꯣꯢꯁꯦ꯫ ꯏꯄꯨꯊꯧ ꯄꯥꯈꯪꯄꯅ ꯀꯨꯄꯤꯁꯅꯣ꯫
Sembee mukaklei marudo. Egee pal namkhaikhre. Nongchup thong hangkhiba kuire. Nongpok thongdi lonkhre.
Loikhrasanu pumnamak. Hwjikti Meetei salai taret pumba amata oirase. Meeteidi Meetei oise. Eputhou Pakhangpana kupisano.
Meitei are one
Eikhoi Meitei amatani
Yes you are Meitei nobody claimed to be a another meitei
I want to tell something that if the Bishnupriya manipuri's wants to add the tag "manipuri" so what will happen they have the right to add the tag...they couldn't add the tag illegally if they add the tag they surely have a right or legal agreement to add the tag...so please don't discriminate Bishnupriya manipuri and meitei manipuri...before belpnging to the caste Bishnupriya manipuri or meitei manipuri we all are humans....
Agreed
What's wrong if someone wants to be manipuri, I as a Manipuri don't have any issues if Bishnupriya's wants to be manipuri or wants to use the term manipuri. We love the beautiful Bishnupriya people
Anyone is welcome to become Manipuri... We have no issue with Bishnupriya fully merged into Manipuri ethnicity... But they are creating controversy by dividing the Manipuri into two groups and claiming themselves to be the original Manipuri based on some fairy tales...
@@pariwanglen2860 haha that's funny never heard anything like that until u said so, anyways facebook.com/11777366210/posts/10159049154176211/
@@GINO_-nn2pg That's because you are unaware of the prevailing conspiracy against Meitei by Kalishas
@@pariwanglen2860 who are kalishas
N what's their motive in conspiring something like that, is it benefiting them in some way
Thank you for supporting Bishnupriya manipuri here. M glad that you have the mirror to both the communities and youth of today.
Bisnupriya are not Manipuri do some research about it
@@malemnganbakhapanganpa4780 Vro.... it's just conflict.....
Let's stay united under one umbrella
@@malemnganbakhapanganpa4780 Bishnupriya ARE Manipuri. Meiteis are ALSO Manipuri.
Manipur is bigger than historical Kangleipak. Bishnupriyas are Hindus, Meiteis are both Sanamahis and Hindus, and they can live together, mix, fuse, harmonize and become one of the most beautiful and powerful and united cultures in all of India and Asia even.
@@malemnganbakhapanganpa4780 meiteis r not Manipuris they r just meiteis.....just hv a sense
Me to monaubi 😂
*Plz use Logic*
Kings of Tripura , Mizoram, Nagaland , Ahoms, Kachari ( Cachar) and even Myanmar ( Burma) have a long history with Manipuri Meitei Kings. ( Not with Bishnupriya ). Meitei Kings have their own Motherland , Monuments. Literature.
So plz donot try to steal another culture. And donot add such idiotic ,such biased, half truth story video which simply creates enimity amongs people.
Bishal sinha gi wafam achumbani👍
@@maisnamthoithoi8813 true
Bro you are converted Hindu… so kindly don’t lecture on Copying… Raaslila is Hindu thing … how come you guys are owning it more than pure Vaishnavites… I agree Phanek doesn’t sound Aryan… but the saree does… so many of things are adopted by you as well … it’s all give and take … not take take take
Meiteis are recent immigrants from China.
@@DipakBose-bq1vv Nah from where you get that information? Meitei don't look like Chinese at all unlike Nagas
Definitely we are meiteis and inhabited only in Kangleipak (manipur). We love our old religion Sanamahism we still following own religion Sanamahi. Why hinduism in Manipur? The meitei's holy book, the Puya was burnt down by Pamheiba king as well as meitei converted into hinduism forcibly by Pamheiba king and Bengali priest Shantidass gosai.
You are abusing your brothers because of the mistake of your king????
I'm a Koch from Assam. Our king embraced hinduism. But there are still non-hindu Koch people. Our cultures are different. They have older culture than us. Its like time traveling. I love them
@@junpreet9261 I'm not abusing my brothers, I'm just educate them to know what we re? how was our beginning? Who is our creater? That's it
@@nrmeetei your history and our history is same. Within us some are pure breed some are mix breed. So what's the problem of using the word Manipuri by both??
Both are indigenous. Simple as that.
@@junpreet9261 the name Manipur is given by the bengali hindu priest, original name is Kangleipak according to the nation name Kangleipak we can be named as Kangleichas else meitei itself. But presently our state name is Manipur. So all the citizens can be known as manipuris. However u cannot be named us manipuri only to the meitei community. It must be named to all the citizens of Manipur.
@@nrmeetei by Manipuri I meant to say indigenous. Yes aryan were outsiders but still the mixed aryan-nonaryan is indigenous now. Both Bishnupriya & meitei are indigenous.
Hey my meitei brothers and sisters why so much hate to Bishnupriya Manipuris as you know we hold the title of manipuri culturally as well as legally so no point of fighting, after all we are brothers, so be United
#Longlivemanipuri
Change your title to sinha not singha
@@SanjusinhaaI m singha but I m BM ❤ , BM too have Singha
Fighting among ourselves is useless... We are diverse in religion, let's be United..
No it will never happen anyway..they wanna steal everything from us calling moirangfi as their traditional attire (one of the clothing of meitei from the district of bishenpyr)is quite appropriate example of how much they r obsessed with us ..
Support for bishnupriya manipuri❤
Being a Meitei, I only found about Bishnupuriya Manipuri from a friend from Tripura. I was dumbfounded when I saw the eerie similarities between them & the Meiteis. Except for language & looks. It was like, I saw alternate universe. Anyways, hope the two communities cross paths again.
It's because Bishnupriyas has copied everything from Meiteis, they are Just too obsessed with meiteis..But their face look like Bengali😂
@@peace373nah most of them had the features of other North East people
Bishnupuriyas are like assamese
Some of them had the features of Bengali and most of them had the features of mongolids
@@peace373Meanwhile you are converted
@@peace373 hi a thing to clarify not every bishnupriya looks like Bengali neither they are related to Bengalis our bishnupriya people are quite diverse with their looks that might some time confuse you. We are just a sub - tribe from manipur . While during Burmese war some bishnupriya manipuris stayed some fled to assam , tripura , Myanmar ,Bangladesh and some nearby states
We never give so much effort to prove that we belongs to meitei community... as whole world knows as we are... ironically whenever we met you people suddenly we realized that these are the people who has done lots homework/table research for our duplications... please don't mind
@@Wanderandlive9678 no dhoti is common in many culture and it is called as sarong
@@Wanderandlive9678 it is worn in Yemen arab and southeast asia also
in answer to that me as metei too...mr appolo you must be overconfident about who you are? its evident that many people came from thailand too... genetics never says wrong..anyways its not about who is what..its about both are brothers you agree or dont doesnt matter but they are.. i as manipuri consider them as manipuri bothers with diffrent dialect cause of circumstances....so choose the words wisely its a social media..
Keinoni bishnupriya see manipurdasu lei.. Bengali direct bengali ni ko
No, U waste ur time calling bishnpriyas are not manipuri like dogs barking after elephants, bishnupriyas doesnt even have time to think of it...
If Meiteis are originally not Hindus, then there are no affinities with Bishnupriyas . Bishnupriyas are originally from Bishnupur District of West Bengal. I admire how you try to create your own "Conspiracy theory".
@Lanngamba Laishram without knowing anything don't claim anything
@@sandipansinha7344 bring out your history on your scripts. Have a script?
Conspiracy theory went to Supreme Court of INDIA. LOL
Brother, it's true... We are Manipuri that all !! Manipuri people speak language name is Meitei lol (Language) [Example; Korean people speak language name is hangul language]. So I appreciated it is very clear to identify Manipuri and Bishnupriya are totally different.
@@skkhumukcham9848 hundi doesnt have its own script, what do u want
Bishnupriya Manipuris are 100% Hindu religious. This religion motivation, " Ohingsha Paromo Dharma" Ek din jaroor Biswa main apna pahechaan banayegha, Thanks for Dhorma Scan. 🙏🙏🙏🥀🥀🥀
There are many Bishnupriya who are Christian
@@pariwanglen2860 there are threvada Buddhist also
@@NortheastIndiaindetails may be
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@@pariwanglen2860 wrong information sister first come and Know us before commenting
Meitei is one of the many community or tribe of Manipur state. While Manipuri is an umbrella term for all the people of different tribes living in Manipur... & meiteilon is used a s lingua franca among different tribes and so the language is majorly known as "Manipuri"..
Ningthoujas are original meiteis , whereas all the clans where independent Kingdoms , later on they annexed all the kingdoms and meitei became Popular in terms of communication
Manipuris are one of the most peaceful communities in Tripura. They are so loving. We also take part in their Festivals.
Love the manipuris
They are not manipuris they are meiteis
@@nrmeetei Right, meitei peoples living outside of present day Manipur should not be called as Manipuri.
Meitei must be always meitei don't try to name it again as manipuri
I stand for tripuri tribe Reang for Tipraland
@@nrmeetei bengali people call us manipuri (meetei or meitei)... They don't know what is meitei....
If you don't have any knowledge about meitei then please don't upload such type of video... At first you come and visit our meitei's land and i think you will happy to change your religion too. "Shidaba Mapu Na yaifare"
Yaiphare2 ... kangleipak na yaiphare2
Ban this channel following fake religious humiliation fake propaganda anti riots
Nice joke😂
95% of people know Meitei Manipuri people and 5 of people know bishnupriya peoples 😂😂😂
They know meitei because of that viral video
Imposing santidas theory on bishnupriya Manipuri are useless, santidas was a preacher of ramadhi sect of Hinduism who entered in 18th century, bishnupriya are vaishnavites and there is a bishnu mandir in bishnupur built in 14 th century, and there are many bishnupriya villages in bishnupur till now , they are called as Bishnupriya meitei or meitei bishnupriya. So stop false propaganda
Appreciate your Video
From my father -
Somesh Chandra Sinha
thank you for supporting us❤️
We should not hate each other and be united no matter what happened in the past and not always listen to those so called fake experts with divisive motives. *Unity is strength*
What if they copy our own traditional culture
Really? Keyboard warrior? Stop conflating Submission for Unity
Submission isn't Unity
Heresy isnt Hate
There is a etymological dictionary for the bishnupriya manipuris in which we can trace our origin of words , meitei being claiming script and all where is your dictionary oops you are unable to publish cz most of words will relate to pali Sanskrit and all , so stop the propaganda against the bishnupriya Manipuris 🤝
Hello! I have seen some of the pictures of the pakhangba dragon of the meiteis. In their iconography they depict the dragon in various knot like positions. There is not just one style of knot but many. I have noticed uncanny similarities with the Nagpash Yantram (literally meaning Serpent/Reptilian/Dragon Noose or Lasso Diagrams; Naga- Serpent/Reptilian/Dragon, Pash- Noose or Lasso, Yantra- Diagram) of the Hindus. The knots are exactly the same. Please look further into them.
I think the meiteis were dragon worshippers which means they were mainly connected to the naga beings (dragons). I think most likely they inherited their spiritual knowledge from a naga being.
Just like Nagarjuna (the famous Mahayana Buddhist) went to the loka (realm) of the nagas to obtain sacred Buddhist teachings, similarly I feel some guru/Rishi/sage from the meitei community came into contact with a naga being.
South indian Hindus had direct connection with the naga Patanjali who is credited for delivering the famous Yoga Sutras of Patanjali. Patanjali Naga is also credited for building and consecrating the famous Chidambaram Shiva temple in Tamil Nadu.
And of course we have many naga beings in the Hindu religion like the Vasuki Naga of Lord Shiva, Sesha Naga of Lord Vishnu and the Takshak Naga king after whom the university of Takshashila was named (Takshak Naga was formally a resident of Delhi then known as Indraprastha. But after Arjuna burns down the forest of Indraprastha, the nagas and Takshak went to modern day Pakistan area where Taxila currently is posited.)
Also, Chinese dragons come with dragon balls. We find mention of it even in Mahabharata where Arjuna's Naga wife Ulupi places a Nag Mani (literally means Gem of the Nagas; Naga- Serpent/Reptilian/Dragon, Mani- Gem) on the chest of Arjuna to revive Arjuna when he was mortally wounded. Interestingly, Arjuna was mortally wounded by Babruvahana who was the son of Arjun and his manipuri Wife Chitrangada. The Bishnupriya Manipuris claim to be descendants of Arjuna from Babruvahana.
Actually, The whole story of the event is that, since, Arjuna was cursed by the River Goddess Ganga for killing her son Bhishma who was like a father figure to Arjuna, so because of that Arjuna also had to die similarly from the hands of his own son. The Naga wife Ulupi knew about this curse. So, to prevent the curse from becoming absolute and to save Arjuna's life, she provokes Babruvahana (son of Chitrangada) to kill Arjuna. Arjuna fatally dies. Chitrangada gets angry at Ulupi for provoking Babruvahana to kill Arjuna. But Ulupi assures her that she has a Dragon Ball (Nag Mani) which will revive Arjuna. So, this way the curse is allowed to take its timely course as curses can't be reverted. And, Ulupi knowing Arjuna is dead would get the Dragon Ball to revive Arjun. She gets the Dragon Ball and revives Arjuna.
But I feel this incident caused uneasy feelings of differences between Chitrangada and Ulupi. And this differences were carried on by both the descendants of Chitrangada (Bishnupriya Manipuris) and Ulupi (Meitei Manipuris) of Manipur. So, What I also feel is that this is the origin of the age old conflict of Bishnupriya Manipuris and Meitei Manipuris (dragon worshippers) from this time onwards in the region of Manipur from the prehistoric times.This is just my speculation. Nothing conclusive. Ofcourse, the differences between both these Manipuri tribes are now based on more modern day recent historical context recorded from the times of the Raja or King of Manipur and so on.
Also, almost every culture had dragons who safeguarded treasures. We have similar stories in India too. There is a Vishnu temple in Kerala where one of the rooms is always closed protected by a solid door with Nagas engraved on it. People believe if the room is ever opened catastrophe will befall on this planet.
My request. Please do look further into the connection between Meitei Dragon Pakhangba and Nag Pash Yantram knots. I think some sadhana process is also involved in it. I am also guessing the Meitei Sanamahi priests may have a role in performing Sadhna practices with the various knots of the Pakhangba (although I'm not concluding this is as absolute. I'm only suggesting a strong possibility of such. Perhaps the priests are also doing some sarpa or snake or dragon sadhana without knowing that there is actually a Sanskrit terminology called Sadhana that explains this. I'm really interested in such a research. Thank You 🙏🌼🌼🌼
Yes..the connection between Pakhangba and Nag Pash Yantram knots has to be explored. The sore relationship between Meiteis and Bishnupriya Manipuris is very recent. Even if we stretch, it doesn't go further than 1930s. The Sanamahi construct is too recent. The test of Sanamahism is that one has to believe that the puyas [old manuscript] were burnt by Hindu king. If this belief is obliterated, nothing remains in Sanamahism. It is all HINDUISM. The Meitei priests you are referring to are called Maibas/Maibis, it is too found in the Bishnupriya Manipuris. And it is part and parcel in evey jatis. As you have suggested, new light has to be thrown on this section. And it needs knee deep research.
With this open ended questions, I must end. Thanks alot. Thank You 🙏🙏🙏
@@dharmascan don't spread fake information about meitei, only by looking some clues and similarities.
We don't belong to any religion group like Hinduism and Buddhism, we have our own religion SANAMAHISM .
@@dharmascan don't act and day it you know it all
@@dharmascan Lol u people dont even know the history and cultures of manipur and talking like u know everything
Just stop spreading virus in social media
@@dharmascan do some research about Kangleipak ( manipur) ...
99% people know Meitei Manipuri people and 1% people know that Vishnu Priya people 😂😂😂
People know meitei because of that viral shit video you people dis
Why don't you use the specific name 'sanamahism' here.
And please make a video on Pre vedic customs and beliefs of BM also... Because BM have their own pre vedic indigenous cultures... And make of video on pancha bishnupriya manipuri...the 5 clans of BM
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# specific name 'sanamahism'
a. It is simply to bring viewers' attention to the CORE IDEA - religion before Hinduism. Name is not important. The idea/ concepts that it carries is important.
# '5 clans of BM'
To make video. Before that another video would be made 100 Years of clans of Meitei. Then you can clearly understand and relate to it. The topic is very interesting.
Because Shanamahism was not sepate from Hinduism per se until 1960s when the leftist marxist axis started separating Meitheis from Hinduism and propagated the same "divide and rule" as started by British. Manipur and all other states of India have their own unique cultures, customs, languages, but all of them are threaded together by the unity of Dharma. Sanatana Dharma was never rigid like Chirstianity or Islam with one book and one prophet. Sanatana Dharma was always based on UNITY of Diversities where local customs were dignified rather than trashing them as pagan. The Vedic framework believe in one absolute reality Brahman but with many regional variations of deities with diversities as the manifestation of same Brahman. Shanamahi was interpreted as Shiva/Vishnu as the creator and preserver god, which is same manifestation of Brahman for millenia in Manipura. The other devas was kuladevata or Grama devatas, who can be worshipped as per Hinduism in contrary to Christianity or Islam. Hinduism is not exclusive. Even today, in most Hindu household in Methei, you will see they worship Krishna, Shiva, and Shanamahi Gods side by side without any clash. But, now these leftist historian created concocted story and created fights among Hindus and Shanamahi rituals, as if they are separate. Furthermore, they deny all Hindu history of Manipur before 18th century. While the fact is Manipur is mentioned as a separate tribe with their own matri-linial system right in Mahabharatas and other puranas from time immemorial. The earliest archeological evidence of Hindu Gods were from 8th century, thats the time of Adi Shankara, which all these leftists will now deny just to separate Shanamahis from Hinduism. We Hindus have no problem with Metheis worshipping Shanamahi as well as Sun and Moon and your ancestors. In fact, Hinduism prescribed to do that worshipping Sun (Aditya), Moon(Soma/Shiva), and ancestor (Shardhdha) rituals. But, the other faiths of Manipur will say these are all pagan and act of Shaitan/devil. Now, you choose your friends wisely and that's what Manipur Kings did since time immemorial by adopting Hindu deities as their major religions after being attracted by the liberal spiritual paths of Hinduism. So, Meithei culture flurished with an admixture of Hindu culture and pre-existing so-called local Shanamahi culture. No need to start fighting among ourselves unless you think that will help your own agenda as missionaries are doing in the north-east. Your such Hinduphobic agenda only helped missionaries and Manipur is now majority Christian state. Soon your Shanamahi Gods will be in museum as pagan God similar to what happened in Roma, Greece, Slavic, Nordic countries, Mayans, Africans. All these tribes have no customs left anymore !
@@sanjoydey1030 sanamahi was there before hindu came to Manipur... Don't try to propagate the history of Manipur in a wrong way...
@@Evolution135 Nobody is saying Shanamahi culture did not exist. Rather, Meithei culture is a mixture of Shanamahi and Vaishnavite Hindu culture, because both have 80% in common such as worship of nature, Sun, Moon, ancestors, etc. But, who was older is debatable. Both Shanamahi and Hindus claim based on their mythological books to be there from pre-history, which is worthless to debate over.
@@sanjoydey1030 Mr. Sanjay Dey I thank you for your utmost importance in preserving Hindu culture in Manipur. I am a Bishnupriya Manipuri from Assam. Great job and keep the same work going. Thanks.
There is no relationship between meiteis and the bishnupriya by blood, bishnupriya are the immigrants mainly from Assam, they absorbed in meitei culture and settle in some parts of Manipur, before Hinduism even the word Manipur don't exist....Meitei have their own culture, language, scripts and religion... Hinduism destroyed Meitei culture, Meitei identity, hindu missionaries try to replace every our sacred places with their hindu related things...even they insisted the king to force the people to use hindu names instead of our meitei name and that is how meitei started use hindu names but still preserve our original surname, surname that tell we are Meitei...now the people of Meitei and it's younger generation lost interest in Hinduism because Hinduism is not our thing we don't know it...and we want to follow the religion that has been with us for 2000 years i.e. Sanamahism.....And meitei didn't completely converted to Hinduism, worshipping of Sanamahi in every meitei houses cannot be uprooted by Hindu till then
are bishnupriya manipuri mayang but their culture is Meitei? I'm not from manipur don't understand
so who is your God ? and the stories expressed in the dances of Raas Leela clearly relates to Lord Krishna,Mahadeva and other Hindu Gods, Goddesses and Asurs ,so how is it not Hinduism?
@@ayflac6153 umm rasleela is actually of bishnupriyas meitei were actually forced to follow hinduism
Why meitei manipuri do raas leela( krishna with gopi), that is hinduism only
@@buntychabungbam6454 yeah so?
Dharma Scan...Please upload more videos...I have paid an amount to your channel. I feel proud. Do carry out your Dharma.
Excellent Video. Really the Bishnupriya Manipuris and the hindu meitei Manipuris are the real MANIPURIES. Especially the Bishnupriya Manipuris extend the Manipuri culture world wide.
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Ha ha ha....get a life
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@@OSHO332 ngse noima maa ge thu yamna namgmni 🤣
Hard work about bm well edited being a bm I individually honour your initiative for promoting bm. Thanks.
Don't know about the entire history....but ya Raz Leela originated from Bishnupriyas...and no one can change this fact....cuz Meiteis claim themselves to be Non Hindu (I've seen in this comment section itself)...they have a different religion known as Sanamahism.....And Raz Leela is all about Lord Krishna.... don't know about the main origin...but ya Bishnupriyas are the real Hindus♥️
Ras Leela was introduced by Raja Bhagyachandra who was a Meitei King who was a great devotee of Vishnu. Meiteis claim they were non Hindus who were converted during the reign of Pamheiba, who was Bhagyachandra’s, ancestor.
@@cobidbeksin5200 exactly first religion, then culture but not the language or else it would be too much. That's how it all started you know.
Meitei are Hindu as well as Sanamahi...
@@Konkonponponsonson u can't be both...
@@Dorara2 Let me explain, Many Meitei are Hindus too... They worship Hindu God and goddess, Sanamahi too...
Some believe sanamahi not to be religion but a Way of life, and in this way of life you can worship any God you want, for example Meitei sanamahi worship a mountain as a form of God, in the same way even meitei Hindu worship the same mountain and call it Mahadev mountain...
In this comment section there are lots of uneducated meitei pro sanamahi having identity crisis.. They haven't read the sanamahi holy book as it's not available but I have, and I as a Sanamahi Meitei would say that Sanamahi is just a way of life and not a religion. Hence I can be a Sanamahi and a Hindu at the same time.
Wah bhai....i m from silchar assam...
both manipuris belong to same clan they are brothers.. in addition to that khumen history is still intact its already mentioned that how outsiders took shelters in manipur and our ancestor gave shelter and later gave them selai.. not all bishnupriyas are outsiders except few..but question is not about who is manipuri..its about why to think both are diffrent??🤦 both community follow..pakhangba our ancestor apokpa, sanamahi 🙏
Meetei machasing nakhoise , meiteira , meeteira ?
Eidi Meeteini meeteirolna laainingjba Yumlaai Umanglaai ningjba . Pokpana Meeteileibakta houjikna manipur kousinbikhraba IMPHAL da pokpani leibasu leijari Kanminnasi Meetei Saktam 🙏
Meitei ga Meetei ga se Kari Da khetnei Kari Da Manei ?
Appreciate your video 😊👍👏👏👏👌
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As I'm scrolling downwards, getting alot of meitei peoples who r showing their *EGO* and *PRIDE* like WTH!!! U people are fighting here for no reason... And Bishnupriya Manipuris are mentally , physically not interested in this cheap topic cause they know that they are the one who are real so they don't fight amongst each other... I mean this comment section's meiteis( Naga) people are crazy to become extraordinary !!!!Lmaooo
Lmao so called real people.So much real that you have to buy the attire you wear from meiteis mostly. Khud ka bhi kuch dhang ka banale copy cat saalo
Why don't we Meiteis do away with the term Manipur and Manipuri altogether? Manipur is not the original name of the present territory inhabited by us anyway. It was known as Poirei- Lam, Sanaleipak, Meitrapak or Kangleipak. The name Manipur was given after adoption of Hinduism much later in the eighteenth century. Along with it the inhabitants came to be called Manipuri and language of Meiteis also came to called Manipuri. Still today Meitei people and more so the tribal population of the hills are hesitant to call ourselves as Manipuri. What I am saying is that the term Manipur and Manipuri is not indigenous to us. So why don't we revive the ancient name Kangleipak or up come up with a different name which is acceptable to all the indigenous communities of Manipur at the present, to be more inclusive. Similar indigenous terms can be used to refer to the inhabitants of the land like Kangleicha or a more inclusive term which is accepted by all indigenous communities of the land. The term Manipuri language should be replaced by Meiteilon, which is the original term. Or we could come up with a more inclusive term to refer to this language, in commensurate with the new name given to the state and its people, since Meiteilon no longer is the language of the Meiteis only but has become lingua franca of the state. Erasing the term Manipur and Manipuri will help us properly demarcate our history and culture and defend against such fanatic Hindu elements who are trying to appropiate our ancient customs and beliefs. This will complete the project of de- sanskritisation and de-Hinduisation started by our Laininghal Naoriya Phullo. I am glad present generation of Meiteis are embarking on path of de- Hinduisation to safeguard our language, customs, script and belief system.
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Very nice. I tried to modify some of the articles on wiki on Manipura and I found the Meitheis are so Hinduphobic that they started pushing their narrative that the term Manipur is even Sanskrit name of their Meithei name of 'Kanglai Pak' of Puya. Somebody needs to do research on their Puya literatures and counter their claim that Manipuris were forcefully converted in 18th century.
Do watch this video. It might be of help. Rest you can deduce yourself. ua-cam.com/video/WvLR1KHealc/v-deo.html
Actually you people are NEphobic and Christianphobic. Yes, the name Manipur was changed from original name Kangleipak
Hmm how much do you know about manipur
@@gunachandra1 knowledge come from realization and experience of local culture, not from some leftist anti-India propaganda machine. Manipur and all other states of India have their own unique cultures, customs, languages, but all of them are threaded together by the unity of Dharma. Sanatana Dharma was never rigid like Chirstianity or Islam with one book. Sanatana Dharma was always based on UNITY of Diversities. The Vedic framework believe in one absolute reality Brahman but with many regional variations of deities with diversities as the menifestation of same Brahman. Shanamahi was interpreted Shiva/Vishnu as the creator god, which is same manifestation of Brahman for millenia in Manipura. The other devas was kuladevata or Grama devatas, who can be worshipped as per Hinduism in contrary to Christianity or Islam, which will deny all other Gods as Shaitan except their one God. Hinduism is not exclusive. Even today, in most Hindu household in Methei, you will see they worship Krishna, Shiva, and Shanamahi Gods side by side without any clash. But, now these leftist historian created concocted story and created fights among Hindus and Shanamahi rituals, as if they are separate. Furthermore, they deny all Hindu history of Manipur before 18th century. While the fact is Manipur is mentioned as a separate tribe with their own matri-lineage system right in Mahabharatas and other puranas from time immemorial. The earlierst archeological evidence of Hindu Gods were from 8th century, thats the time of Adi Shankara, which all these leftists will now deny just to separate Shanamahis from Hinduism. We Hindus have no problem with metheis worshipping Shanamahi as Sun and Moon God and your ancestors. In fact, Hinduism prescribed to do that worshipping Sun (Aditya), Moon(Soma/Shiva), and ancestor (Shardhdha) rituals. Now, you choose your friends wisely and that's what Manipur Kings did since time immemorial by adopting Hindu deities as their major religions after being attracted by the liberal spiritual paths of Hinduism.
@Sanjoy Dey you are trying to push your narrative with any proof. Do you have any historical references.
In Asvamedha parva ARJUNA VISITED MANIPUR AFTER DEFEATING THE KINGDOM OF SINDHU.
DO ANSWER ME IS THERE ANY STATE NAME SINDHU NEIGHBOURING MANIPUR IN PRESENT OR PAST.
I meet a Bishnupriya, we talk briefly he himself was not sure why they are called like that. He doesn't look anywhere close to regular Manipuri.
My personal opinion is that - it is better they better stick to only Bishnupriya only without Manipur.
Meitei script or language is included in 8th schedule; religion is a choice of belief & faith ; historical facts and scientific facts are more important; I or you can't be family or part of Mukesh Ambani (Industrialist) if I or you put Jogabanta Ambani or Mahesh Ambani ; the aspiration for identity recognition is very appreciative; however attempt and approach should not be one sided as they always carry counterproductive impact.
As per the royal chronicle, or Cheitharol Kumbaba, the region of Manipur, India, was established in the 1st century AD. It was a former kingdom, formed by the unification of ten clans under the Ningthouja clan. The region has historical significance as well - it had been the site of trade routes between India and Myanmar and also served as the arena for battle between the Japanese and the Allied forces, during World War II. A democratic form of government was established in Manipur, in accordance with the Manipur Constitution Act, 1947, and the Maharaja was appointed as the Executive Head. The area became a of independent India in 1949. The government in the State consisted of an elected legislature as well. In 1956, Manipur was conferred the status of a union territory of India, which continued till 1972. On January 21, 1972, it was given the status of a state in India. Let us explore the history and origin of Manipur in detail.
The Ancient Period (before Christ)
The earliest known occupation of Manipur can be traced back to Tang, the 14th generation ruler of Qi tribe that inhabited the central part of the present day China, who later found Tang-Shang dynasty. After him, his son (Tangja Leela Pakhangba) and grandson (Kangba) ruled over the area. The reign of Kangba, on Manipur region, stretched from 1405 BC to 1359 BC, after which his son Koikoi took over. He was one who introduced the dating of Meitei calender (Cheraoba), known as Mari-Fam and the surnames like Koikoijam & Keirambam.
The records of Manipur show have obscure information on its history between the reign of Kokoi and that of Korou Nongdren Pakhangba, who ruled around 934 BC and after him, we get to know about Chingkhong Poireiton, whose reign lasted from 34 BC to 18 BC. The information on what happened in-between these two rulers is again vague. Still, it is believed that for about 700 years during this period, there were no rulers in the Manipur area, which was then known as Tai-Pong-Pan.
The Early Period (33 AD-1149 AD)
Talking about the Early Period in the history of Manipur, we go back to the 1st century AD, when Nongda Lairen Pakhangba ruled over the region. He ascended the throne in 33 AD. After him, it is Meidingu Yanglou Keiphaba whose mention has been found in the historical records, with his reign lasting from 965 AD to 983 AD. The last major name of the Early Period is that of Meidingu Loitongba, who ruled from 1121 AD to 1149 AD. His son Atom Yoireba ascended the throne in 1149 Ad, but by 1162 AD he was driven out by his brother Hemtou Iwang-Thaba.
The Medival Period (1467 AD-1798 AD)
The Medival Period in the history of Manipur brings forth the name of Medingu Senbi Kiyamba, who became king in 1476 AD, at the age of 24. He was a freind of the King of Pong (Shan Kindom), who presented him with a stone, known as PHEIYA (Almighty). It was after this that worship of God, in the form of a sacred stone, was started. From 1708 AD to 1747 AD, the region of Manipur was under the rule of Meidingu Pamheiba, who extended his kingdom from Kabow valley, in the east, to Nongnang (Cachar), Takhel (Tripura), in the west.
Ningthou Ching-Thang Khomba, the son of Samjai Khurai-Lakpa (the eldest son of Pamheiba), became the king in 1747 AD and ruled for the next 4 years, after which he was expelled by his brother Borot-sai, in 1751 AD. After Borot-sai, Gaurisiam became the ruler signed a treaty with the British, encouraging trade and commerce. Gaurisiam's death, in 1763 AD) again led to the reign of Ningthou Ching-Thang Khomba. It was during Khomba's rule that the name "Manipur" for "Meitrabak" or "Sanna-Leipak" came to existence.
The Modern Period (1819 AD-Present)
The modern period started in 1819 AD, when King Marjeet ruled over Manipur. In the said year, Manipur was attacked and won over by the Burmese and Chahi-Taret Khuntakpa became the king. In 1825, Gambir Sing led Manipuris in an attack over the Burmese and declared himself as the king of Manipur. After his death, his son Maharaja Chandrakirti ascended the throne, at the age of two. Maharaja Surchand, the eldest son of Chandrakirti, ascended the throne after his father and ruled for 5 years (from 1886 AD to 1890 AD).
In 1890, Surchand's younger brothers, Zillangamba and Angousana revolted against him, along with Jubaraj Tikendrajit. Later, Kullachandra, the elder brother of Tikendrajit, became the king. British waged an open war against Manipur sometime later and conquered it on 27th April, 1891 AD. Thereafter, the region saw two kings only - Maharaja Churachand Singh (1891-1941 AD) and Maharaja Budhachandra Singh (1941-1949 AD). In 1949, Manipur was merged into independent India. On 21 January 1972, Manipur was granted statehood.
* Manipur and its people were
known by different names to their neighbours. The Shans or Pongs called the
area Cassay, the Burmese Kathe, and the Assamese Meklee
Lastly mutual respect , harmony and togetherness with better understanding must be encouraged by all, thank you
We are the ones who bought Vaishnavism to Manipur
Who is aRJUN and kRISHNA and one thing meitei is not hindu
The name "Manipur" was given by Shantdas Gosai in 18th century during the reign of King Pamheiba (Garibniwaj) for making a concocted history describing the King Pakhangba as the descendant of Babruvahan, son of Arjuna. It was already proven that the Manipur of Mahabharata is not this present Manipur but in the state of Orissa. So any claim by Bishnupriya community had been proven false in the courts. Khurumjari. As a good souls let's unite and strive to civilization...as you know the Bishnupriya has to learn a lot the underlying meanings of the Meitei culture related to mother nature...amukk khurumjari 🙏
Dear friend meitei is not Hindu, you should clear.
Then why u worship lord krishna and jagannath?
I am not against Bishnupriya. I appreciate them for so many similarities with us- in fact there might had a period of great interactions between Meiteis and Bishnupriyas. However, please do not distort many centuries old Meitei history.
I have gone to grab many informative data through this video. I am a Manipuri too from Bangladesh.
This video is propaganda itself
Ti bisnupriya na meitei.
@@parmeshwarsadashiv Bishnupriya
If you are a Bishnupriya from Bangladesh, then you can't identify yourself a Manipuri.
@@doyamoysingha2015 Strange!!! Why do you think so in this regard? Let me know your authentic logic, please.
Bishnupriya looks like katcha badam 😂
My question is if meetei of manipur are not hindus why do they celebrate yaoshang festival which is similar to hindu festival? And why it has to be similar? Some meetie please answer me
It will be clarified later, it's a long history , it not related between yaoshg and Holi , they combined the date but there are diffirent story behind , after the Hinduism enter the state state , it all mix up the culture . The other state know it as a holi but it is not a holi .
Appreciate to your video, I am Bishnupriya Monipuri from India. 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Bishnupriya to Sinha hai Singh aur singha to meitei log lagate hai
@@prithvisingh4849 now that time is gone we don't put that mister we put our real surname not singha or devi
We bishnupriya manipuris are singha n sinha also, both are same(manipuris)
@@bemmakhundrakpam1164 Its great that you put your native surnames but please don't discourage Hindu names so extremely. Singha and Devi are beautiful names with good meanings as well.
Bemma Khundrakpam Devi is a beautiful name too; why remove it? Let's mix and synchronize and make Manipur a peaceful place by accepting our diversity.
But we r not same we r different I'm Meitei
I'm a Bishnupriya manipuri 😌
It's okay whether ur meetei or bisnupriya manipur we are both meetei just religion is different
@@AlonMask69 what!? No those are two different ethnicities.
@@anneong3932 bro i know I'm meetei. Just giving some positive comment
@@AlonMask69 "it's ok whether you are meetei or BM. We are both meetei, just religion is different" from that, "we are both meetei" is wrong. That's pretty wrong. That's like saying a caucasian European is the same as a mongoloid person. You could have said, "We are both Indians" or "We are both human beings". Be positive and truthful
Manipuri (meitei)or bishnupriya(kalashaiya)mai koi rista nahi hai ... Likne wale bohot kuch likhte hain bolne wala bohot kuch bolte hai... Bishnupriya bas andhere mai hai apne aapko bhagwan ka santan sabit karne mai
Actually there is big difference in appearance between Bisnupriya and meetei . Some Bisnupriya look more Indo Aryan and some look a bit mix and somelook more mongoloid but majority look more Cacasoid .Bisnupriya are the info Aryan migrated from East Bengal or mordern Bangladesh during ancient times so they live among the meetei majority and meetei ruler so they assimilated with the meetei means they married and adopted the culture of meetei so they become like meetei . During that time the king didn't classified the two cast proper on record people of manipur don't evn know about about Bisnupriya manipuri because don't even talk in their own indo iranian language . Like Spanish classified in the Latin America like mulato the mix of Spanish and African and mestizo as children of Spanish and amerindian
Manipuri ko Meitei bhi kehete hai manipuri (meitei) jati Manipur (Kangleipak) se belong karta hai.
Manipuri (meitei) aur bishnupriya ke bhij mein kohi rista nahi hai.
Tum log kya janteho Manipur ke bare mein .
Aur ek baat manipuri ke bare mein bina jane view ke liye video maat Banana ye Manipur se warning hai
Dharma scan i appeal to make more videos in this topic, as rarely people talk on this! If you want researchers to help you out pls be free to ask we all are happy to help
Great Superb Outstanding Knowledgeable Sharing 🙏🕉️♿🔱🔱
Sembi mukaklei masen manneiko.. Mayang machasingcdi
History his story story which is recorded or got recorded now who is to certify or who is enable
Kangleipak ta mayaang thamlubagi awaba kokpa ngamdri meitei eikhoina meitei hainingudaba manipuri title pamluba Bengali bamon amaga meitei Hindu amagana 1949 da written da Aryan singgi machani manipuri ni hairubagi general,sc,obc da leihankhibadgi hwjikti tapna2 eikhoi mayaang olllakle.
The language of Meitei Manipuri does not match with any language of India but Bishnupriya Manipuri language matches with all the languages of India.
This shows that Bishnupriya Manipuri is the only ancient Manipuri of India and there is also evidence of this that their spoken language.
Says who. It matches with languages of Nagas, Mizos, Cacharis, Tripuris, Bodos, Burmese and all the other indigenous Tibeto Burman languages of the region. It is Bishnupriya which is connected to Bengali and Sanskrit which means it came into Northeast from outside. The ancient Manipur of Mahabharata also lies in Kalinga coast.
The ancient name of Manipur was not even Manipur. The latest name before it was named being Meckley and it was under that name the first treaty with East India company was signed. The name Manipur came after that.
@@cobidbeksin5200 I had said something wrong in the earlier comment, I meant to say that the language of Meitei Manipuri does not match with Indian languages but with Hindu Sanskrit.The language of Meitei Manipuri can undoubtedly match these languages with of countries such as Chinese, Japanese, Korea, Thai, Myanmar.But ancient India does not coincide at all with Hindu Sanskrit
@@cobidbeksin5200 By your logic… Assamese is also an Aryan language… Are they outsiders too … We only had Bishnupur in our occupation… not entire manipur… We were allies for war… and most of the gaurya ran away when Burma attacked including Meiteis to Barak Valley ,Tripura and Bangladesh …
@@festexplorerindia6647 Yes the Assamese speakers were also outsiders who moved into Assam. They came later than Austria Asiatic Speakers like the Khasis or Jaintias. Some Tibeto Burmans like the Bodo, Koch, Mech etc may also have been there before the arrival of Indo Aryan speaking population.
The case with Bishnupriya is different in that they arrived much later.
@@cobidbeksin5200 Are you off your mind when you say” Austria Asiatic”… 🤣🤣🤣 chutiya bana do kisi ko bhi…They are just another hybrid example of Sino Aryan language…north east is frontier of many Aryan and sino communities…
Cyber crime karnese pehele tumhara youtube chennal ban karo,,,,
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Proudly Bishnupriya ❤ by blood pure Hindu 🕉
I appreciate you truly right
The more solidarity the more strength. So , meitei nd bishnupriya manipuri are Manipuris
Manipur ka Bishnupur/Bishenpur sthit Bishnu Mandir koi Hindu Raja ne hi banaya hoga 1490-1505 ke bich...
The fact that they need approval for others to recognise their identity is heart breaking...we are all one so what if there are differences there are similarity aswell.... I'm so gald i found out about my people in a far away land a bit different but so what😂❤
I am a Bishnupriya Manipuri, comparing me and my belief is similar to a meitei hindu and yes we do follow apokpa too ❤️
3:46 my brother's wedding 🚶💦
Good giving for History Of Manipur try to bring more latest history of Manipur which one ☝ spoken about of Manipur history
Bhai fake publicity mat karo. Tumlok asli Santidas Gosai ki khandan ho
Karigino etemaaa 🤣
Imposing santidas theory on bishnupriya Manipuri are useless, santidas was a preacher of ramadhi sect of Hinduism who entered in 18th century, bishnupriya are vaishnavites and there is a bishnu mandir in bishnupur built in 14 th century, and there are many bishnupriya villages in bishnupur till now , they are called as Bishnupriya meitei or meitei bishnupriya. So stop false propaganda
Dude, a serious question regardless of the issue, how can i get those books you mentioned.
Are these books you mentioned in the video is present in your college library or you yourself purchased it, studied it & then explaining the facts.
It is freely available in the internet.
Use: shodhganga.inflibnet.ac.in/
archive.org/
Here is the list of books that has been uploaded for you.
sites.google.com/view/dharmascan/library
@@dharmascan they are research papers based on unverified facts & personel opinions. Suggests some reliable sources. Meiteis have hundreds books to nullify all your points (some of them written before 16th Century)
This account is a complete bullshit.. trying hard to shit on our history.
@@skkhumukcham9848 okay brudar 90% of these books are written by meiteis of imphal so its like u are dissing your own people ookok 😄😄 no harm for us
@@skkhumukcham9848 What you are saying is also unverified fact and personal (and communal) opinion. The sources are very reliable. Bishnupriyas are as Meitei as Sanamahis are. Meiteis can be both Hindu and Sanamahi also if they respect both Umang Lai and Krishna Bhagwaan. Why are you trying to justify "Meitei only Sanamahi and Bishnupriya only Hindu?" huh? Manipur is a SECULAR state. People here follow whichever religion they feel connected to.
Sanamahis and Hindus can live together and in peace. In fact, they can fuse and create a beautiful culture together. Sanamahism doesn't need to distance itself from Hinduism and India for looking unique, it already is unique and beautiful, let this beauty flow like a river and let Hinduism also flow with it together. Umang Lai and Shree Krishna can be prayed together.
We meiteis have our own history you non manipur people doesn't know our history how dare u r writing fake history
Burnt were not meitei books that are bishnupriya manipuri history, bcoz they are afraid that time Tripura BM already about to get there identity in tripura
Isme app ek chiz add krna bhul gye... Bishnupriya manipuri Myanmar me v rehti ha
Yes. Bishnupriya Manipuris are in Meghalaya too. Just ignored intentionally.
Good they should stay there
@@skkhumukcham9848 u should stay in ur limit..😪
@@BISHNUPRIYA-MANIPURI-SANSKRITI Confused identity
I never heard Bishnupriya Manipuris exactly. Now I get to know better. In my schooling in Silchar (KV Masimpur). There were few boys I think they were Bishnupriya Manipuris.
There was no such place like manipur before 18th century.. it was kangliepak/sanaliepak.. name any bisnupruya king or queen from the history of kangliepak, you will fimd none.
The BMs are suffering from a uncurable dieases called identity crises, so they want to claim everythin which is not belong to them.. raas lila was creared/performed by the king bodhachndra, rabindra nath tagore made it global by introducing it in shantiniketan. If any BM want to argue then lets do it.
Meiteis are originally ningthoujas, all the clans are being attacked and converted to meiteis know your history first
Khai outahe trybel para cheite . . Ahigi hukkang je cheite 😋😋😋
Bishnupriya & meitei habigi tribe
Many Bishnupriya people also have small eyes. Northeast India is a land of small eyes. Tribal people are indigenous. Maybe you have meeyang looks? That means your origin/blood is bangladeshi refugee 🙏❤️
Mayang sakthu
@@bronkoironheart9005 hui macha
@@ashishsingha443 Sajikloi minai macha mayang
Actually we are not hindus we are just Meitei and we have our own language, culture, totaly different from Hinduism👍
Oh I see putting chandan on forehead Wearing holy thread and Dhoti are also belongs to meitei.
We have own language and culture but we are not 'totally different' from Hinduism and we don't need to be. Hinduism's original enforcers were bad people, but the religion itself is not bad.
Sanamahis and Hindus CAN live harmoniously together. I will always respect the Apokpa and Umang Lai but why should I leave worshipping Shree Krishna or Shiva? I am both Hindu and Sanamahi, I CAN be both. Umang Lai never said "stop worshipping to Krishna if you believe in me". So stop communalizing Hindus and Sanamahis. #HinduSanamahiunity
You guys were influenced by Hinduism because in every meitei festival you guys wear dhoti pagdi use dhol chandan Hindu instruments how can you say that you guys were never influenced by Hindus.We Bishnupriya also believe in Apopka dou.We also worship him as our Kul Devta.You go and see the structures architectures of ancient temples forts of Apokpa all are ancient Hindu styles. Your ancestors aren't born here you were migrated from SE countries. Without marrying Hindu you can't get the titles of Singh Singha Devi Rajkumar Kumar all are the Kshatriya titles of Hinduism.
you think yourself without marrying a Hindu you won't get the title of Hindus.
I'm a meitei and my religion is hindu.... At first i thought all meteis are hindu and i was literally shocked when i saw them eating beef but i was wrong they don't have any religious.....
@@lipisinha3430 surnames like singh , rajkumar came way later with the hindu priest from bengal , Bishnupriyas were descendants of those bengali mixed with meiteis , same as the case with meitei pangal .
Thanks to dharma scan channel for valuable initiative💐🙏 we need more information nd knowledge regarding the history of both communities, I am belongs to Bishnupriya manipuri community but I want to tell something about the history bm regarding mahasabha, before formation it was known as "Birat Sabha" i heard verbally, we want to know about the formation or relation between "Birat Sabha and Mabhasabha".🙏
U r sinha how can you be manipuri
He is spreading fake information and u r just believing wow😮
Shailendra right bro.. This channel promoting fake soon to banned
@@shailendrachoudhary9451 identifying someones community by their title is wrong and moreover obviously sinha is manupuri
@@shailendrachoudhary9451 Sinha is not copyrighted by just North Indians. :P
Manipuris can also have this beautiful name.
Do you know how "pung" is made which is used during so called kirtana
Bishnupriya Manipur Harpeilu Niyam Niyam Homa JAY EMA NIKHIL BISHNUPRIYA MANIPURI
Good information..keep it up.being 100% hindu Bishnupriya manipuris are peace loving community ,despite many obstacles, they always adopt hindu sanaton dharma. Meitei of manipur accepted muslim coz they adopted meitei language. So muslim now muslim manipuri. On the contrary bishnupriya did not accept meitei language as their mother tongue so meitei of manipur never accept and always think bishupriya manipuris an outsider. But history never fade.history never tell lie. Hypocricy ka v haadh hoti he yaar.however those meitei who come here to spread hatred... flowers r for u guys. We always belief peace humanity
Angao afei gi choiron ni nanngidoChAktH0
Shut up saathvi failed!!!
Muslim help us in war that's why we accepted them to lived here, and those hindu saints who come to spread vaishnavism not only spread but burnt our sacred books, how we forgive them.
@@bemmakhundrakpam1164 Please don't forgive Hindu saints if they burnt your sacred books. But do forgive the modern day Hindus of Manipur because they cannot help what happened in past. Please accept them as your people, and let their glorious Hindu culture mix with native Sanamahi culture of Manipur please. Hinduism and Sanamahism can coexist and harmonize peacefully.
@@bemmakhundrakpam1164 Muslims k saath hi raho
Bishnupriya manipuri ei totally different from Real Manipuri || 🥲🥲
Namaimathu
Huithu
@ Ranjit Thokchom kasubi sakthu
@@sandipansinha7344 namaimathu doh
@@jadumonisinha940 namaimathu doh
@@sandipansinha7344 haujik hairo noi Napa,pupu ,pupu su sakthu hairami haiiro.
Proud to be bishnupriya manipuri
Assam & tripura government has given you importance because of their political vote banks.... nothing else & they enjoyed it
And some radical Meitei like you do give importance to us just to fell superior???
Bishnupriya Manipuri in Manipur have faced discrimination and racism and you think it's superiority!!
Doesnt matter
u wont get importance anyway
@@okensinha Mere 1k kalishas in Manipur and most of them have assimilated beacuse they were not like you radical kalishas spreading fake history
@@abhisinha1975 But still we have more importance than you.. everywhere outside North east you are not even known 🤣🤣
@@chao5765 Good for you, live with your pride , God bless Son.
BJP yam support toukho dana. BJP na power pairak adi, sigumba Hindu dharma da hakchanba group sum yam khaklakani, mapang su kankhat lakani. Khara touradi Manipur dasu sigumba mari makhong samnadaba wari eba mee thok lakani. Peisa na power na adum leiraga sigumba group semakani..
Please try to make a video on the relation between dimasa kacharai and manipuri as I've heard about an exiled dimasa princess blessing the manipuris and also heard that one of of the last queens of the dimasa Kacharis was a manipuri princess
[1] "exiled dimasa princess blessing the manipuris" -- presently I don't know.
[2] last queens of the dimasa Kacharis was a manipuri princess.
It is true.
Sure will make a video on the relationship between Dimasa Kachari and the Manipuris.
My next video is on 200 years of Dimasa Kachari. Sorry to reply late.
In most of your videos you strongly support bishnupriyas because they are pure hindu and meiteis are not real hindu and most meiteis support Sanamahism instead of hindu religion thats why. It can be clearly seen in your videos. And Iam warning you for your fake videos against meitei people and meitei religion. You have no right to say that our meitei religion is fake. What do you know about meitei people and meitei religion ha.
Forceful mass conversion of Meiteis into Hindu Ramandi Vaishanavism by Garib Niwaz under the supervision of Bengali Pandit Santidas Gosai and Gopal Das Goswami is not a western or Christian missionary propaganda. The incident is well described in Khumal Purana written by Pandit Navakendra in 18th century which the Bishnupriyas consider as their sacred text. The Manipura mentioned in Mahabhrata was a coastal region and could not be the present NE state of Manipur. In the Mahabhrata epic NE and foothills of Himalayas is mentioned as Kiratadesh.
Mahavarat ka manipur kalinga rajya pay hai
How can a saint force a king to accept his religion? Grreat-grand father of Garib Nawaz already converted to Vaishnavism by a Madva saints by being attracted the spiritual power of the Vaishnava saints. Pandit Shantidas later converted Garib newaz from Madhva sect to Ramanandi sect. The fact that Garib Newaz was already Hindu at that time. So, stop concocting your fake agenda that Garib Newaz was forcefully converted to Hinduism. Mahabharatas clearly mentioned Manipur as a valley within eastern Himalayas and their kings follow matri-lineal system of inheritance, where Chitrangada was main custodial of her son Babhrubahana rather than father Arjuna. All these features still exist in Manipur.
Sanjay dey.
How did Muslim came to India.
@@sanjoydey1030 Manipura of Mahabhrata is already discovered in the state of Odhisa. Your evil propaganda to evict the native Manipuris and native Mongoloid groups of NE from the soil and establishing your Aryan hegemony with your distorted self made stories will never succeed. We are the Kiratas mentioned in Puranas and Mahabharatas. NE is Kirtadesh not Aryavart.
@@sanjoydey1030 features available where?? Chutia.
For thos who say bishnupriya meiteis are not meitei shame on u....they don't need anyones approval....from one meitei to another ❤
I think we should Unite, other community making up fake umbrella terms for unity, we also should learn from that and unite with every community that shares common culture.
@@Konkonponponsonson my thoughts exactly
Jai ema bishnupriya Manipuri
Paka tum bishnupriya ho ge kiu tum UA-cam ke zarire log ko bishnupriya jada side leke bol te ho meitei ko bura dekha te ho..our tum kiya jano metei ke itihaas ke bare me .meitei our bishnupriya koi lenadena nahi he dono ke pise lage huye Manipuri word alava... meitei jati sanamahism dharma he
Very True.
Never Ever mess with Meitei Manipuri people did you know politician dike Narendra Modi ramnath kovind Hemanta Biswas Sharma has visit Manipur and Meitei people but none of you bishnupriya 😝😜🤪
People know meitei because of your viral video😂😂
There is so much famous sports players frm Manipur kangleipak ...
meitei macha mym lak pu lak ammadi dislike amasung report twbiba kaobiganu
Whatever you follow Hinduism or Sanhamism or both, Just stay away from abrahamic religions.
Are you made ?? sabka malik ek hai
Never link manipur with Mahabharat.
Why not? Mahabharata is the history of Bharata (India). Either you live in India with accepting the real history of India or go to the land of Marx or Lenin or Mao to hate Mahabharata.
Have you ever read the Mahabharat. Do read it properly. Mahabharat is great epic even today the city , town river mentioned in Mahabharata can be easily identify.
Verse from adi parva,
Beholding the beauty of Mahendra mountain he (Arjuna) reach manipur walking along the sea shore.
Use you good logic how he going to reach manipur by walking along the sea shore.
In another book instead of Manipur it is written as MANALURA. I PROMISE YOU MY STATE WAS NOT CALL MANALURA.
IN ANOTHER VERSION CHITRANGADA AND ANJUNA MEET ON THE BANK OF RIVER KAVERI. RIVER KAVERI IS DOWN IN SOUTH INDIA.
NOW PLEASE DO EXPLAIN HOW IT IS REALATED TO MANIPUR. AND SECOND DON'T TEACH OUR HISTORY TO US.
@Gunachandra Sarangthem @Sanjoy Dey...Ramayana and Mahabharata are GREAT GRAND NARRATIVE OF BHARAT SINCE TIME IMMEMORIAL. Don't tell "Never link manipur with Mahabharat." There are converted MUSLIMS, CHRISTIANIS, they too don't believe on it. Hindus don't have problem. And don't poke your nose in the Hindu beliefs. It is none of your business.
@@nehakhare023 first read the Mahabharata. Analysis the geography mentioned in the Mahabharat. Than ask yourself whether the manipur in northeast India is related to Mahabharat or not.
For your information if you do a google search you will find 50+ places in india which is call manipur.
The geography mentioned in Mahabharata don't suit with the present manipur.
Read the Mahabharat. What you people are doing is disrespecting Mahabharat by interpreting wrongly
@@nehakhare023 you must be real dumb in real life too
Stop these bloody distortion a history of entire community,, stop these one sided theory/ depictions of false hood research which is duplications of someone s sanctity...please.... we never hate you as bishnuprya..come on we all are same together we can do a lots... think about other communities their ..in front of them we both are nothing......similarities in our thoughts, culture, dress,religion etc is enough to bring us unity.... but don't distort the others while trying to be the original
ꯀꯔꯤꯔꯥ ꯇꯧꯔꯤꯁꯤꯕꯨ ꯃꯊꯛ ꯃꯈꯥ ꯈꯪꯗꯔ
ꯁꯦꯝꯄꯤ ꯃꯨꯀꯥꯛꯂꯩ ꯃꯀꯥꯛꯂꯩ ꯃꯔꯨꯗꯣ ꯃꯁꯥ ꯐꯟꯅ ꯍꯧꯈ꯭ꯔꯦ ꯑꯗꯨꯅ ꯇꯨꯝꯅ ꯀꯣꯛꯊꯣꯛꯇꯕ ꯌꯥꯔꯔꯣꯢ꯫
ꯆꯩ ꯅꯤꯔꯦ ꯃꯣꯏ ꫰꫰
konsa jati he bisnupriya fitnupiya
Tere papa ko puch
Manipur ki history samaj mein ane lagi hein...
Ye apko chutiya banarahahe
Just fake history
Bishnupriya manipuri is original hindu
Yes they are real hindus from bengal
Hard work well edited I individually honour your initiative for promoting bm
.Thanks.