M3 iMac: Testing 30 games
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- Опубліковано 9 чер 2024
- Is the new M3 iMac packed with more juice for gaming? Let’s test 30 games on Apple M3 to find out!
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Note, the framerate displayed is for demonstration purposes only, and should NOT be used as 100% accurate data.
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iMac 24” M3 games shown:
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0:00 - Introduction
0:12 - Refresh rate bug + Capture Card
0:53 - Lies of P (Native)
2:35 - Resident Evil Village (Native)
4:22 - Baldur's Gate 3 (Native)
5:42 - No Man's Sky (Native)
7:27 - ELEX 2 (Native)
9:07 - Firmament (Native)
11:17 - Myst (Native)
12:54 - Layers of Fear (Native)
14:20 - Fort Solis (Native)
15:35 - The Medium (Native)
15:43 - Total War: PHARAOH (Native)
18:27 - Disney Dreamlight Valley (Native)
19:31 - Arma 3 (Native)
20:38 - Isonzo (Rosetta 2)
22:02 - EVERSPACE 2 (Native)
22:59 - Metro Exodus (Rosetta 2)
24:28 - Shadow of The Tomb Raider
25:40 - The Forgotten City (Native)
26:23 - Dying Light (Rosetta 2)
27:11 - Psychonauts 2 (Rosetta 2)
27:43 - Borderlands 3 (Rosetta 2)
28:47 - Deus Ex: Mankind Divided
29:42 - Disco Elysium (Native)
30:33 - Civilization VI (Rosetta 2)
31:48 - HUMANKIND (Native)
32:23 - League of Legends (Rosetta 2)
33:08 -NBA 2K24 Arcade Edition (Native)
33:42 - Call of Duty: Black Ops 3 (Rosetta 2)
34:57 - Divinity: Original Sin 2 (Rosetta 2)
36:09 - Farming Simulator 22 (Native)
37:24 - Final thoughts? - Ігри
One of the best channels for straight up comparisons with no bs, just game and performance testing. great video!
Stewie, it is great to see you still providing great content on everything Apple Gaming! We truly appreciate you and I look forward to anything you create as you put your heart and soul into it and it shows. Keep it up and thank you again. :)
Great tests and commentary, subbed. Thank you for testing so many games.
Thank you again for the content, Professor Snape
Thank you for your content , could you run Diablo 4 with crossover and Hogwarts legacy because I am running them right on a base m1 Mac mini and getting 30-36fps at 1080p…..thanks
That was the video I was looking for thx!
It would be interesting to see a comparison between M1 Pro vs M3 (not M3 Pro)
I have an M1 Pro Max - 64GB RAM. Any game you want me to try? I own just Resident Evil Village, but can buy that Psychonauts game, which looks fun!
almost at 100k! well deserved
Relly Appreciated your effort
I’m amazed you could find 30 games
Thanks for the in depth analysis. Your honesty at the end is great. I was planning on the M2 mini with 16gb but when the new M3 iMacs came out I was thinking they would be better. But wow 24gb and it still struggles? I love macOS much more then windows so Mac is my best bet for everyday use as well as gaming.
Ram has little to do gaming performance
@@scifiordieit does up to a point, especially with intergraded graphics because it acts as VRAM
@@chidorirasenganz as far as speed and latency is concerned, for sure, but in this case all variants come with the same memory bandwidth, so 24GB wouldn't have any sensible advantage.
@@scifiordie also texures are effected as well. The higher resolution textures used, the more RAM that is needed
That's actually insane to even say. I am not super knowledgeable about ARM for for x86 even going from single to dual channel makes a huge difference. And with these new CPUs with modules (Ryzen, EPIC), matching the controller speed to memory speed and capacity matters a lot.@@scifiordie
thanks for this video man, I don't own an iMac nor the M3 chip but I love watching your videos! Much love to you and thanks for this!
@MrMacRight Great to see you testing out so many games on the latest iMac. I played dozens of games on the original Bondie Blue iMac in 1998 and have very fond memories of Mac gaming, so I think the iMac being a capable gaming machine is important as an entry point for Mac gaming. I think we can both agree that 8GB as the base memory is likely to create a really poor experience. And with this video it shows they really need to include a few more GPU cores to make this machine capable of 60 FPS gaming.
I would like to say that I think all games should be tested with upscaling technology disabled, to see the true power before spatial and temporal upscaling is applied.
I picked up the base M3 Max 14" (14 core CPU/30 core GPU/ 36 GB memory) and I'm running tests to see how it holds up for gaming.
Great content, I appreciate your honesty ! You are one the rare UA-camrs who make it right !! 👍
As always, thanks again for your great content Stewie! Your tone and humor is so refreshing.
I was hoping to get some information about Baldur's Gate 3 since I heard Elverils wasn't involved in the Mac version's development of the game anymore.
About Metro Exodus Enhanced, I'm glad you ask the question because I want an answer too. Unfortunately I'm afraid the Ukrainian team behind the game has more to deal with these days.
Great in-depth analysis. Do any of these games support rumble/vibration when using a gamepad like the Xbox Wireless Controller under macOS? My reason for asking is I have tried several titles under the Apple Arcade trial that came with my Mac, and while while my gamepad supports vibration, none of the games I have tested on the App Store or on Apple Arcade have the ability to use the feature. Currently the only way I have seen thus far to utilize the vibration function of the gamepad, is to use a console emulator like Dolphin with console games that have the feature baked in. I have heard that the newly released Grid Legends features vibration / rumble support.
thanks my dude
Great now I want a new m3 damn you lol thanks for the great details 😊
Using software, especially that of games that draw more than the installed ram available would likely put additional wear and tear on one's SSD, leading it to eventual premature failure, rendering the computer dead as a result.
If your computer is switching to a swap state on a regular basis then this will likely shorten the lifespan of the computer significantly. This speculation is based on an early bug on the M1 Air which was triggering constant swapping and the hard drives began to show through monitoring software significant wear.
That all turned out to be bunk. There’s been studies showing that SSDs far out live their stated limits. With excessive writing to the drive you could still reach 10 years of usage
No , that is not a thing on macs.
How can you see that sidebar where the system activity is monitored?
It is nice to see game running on a mac, it has been a desert for years and good to see raytracing (after it is since more than 6 years on PC) but it is not a competitor to the PC in price or quality. Best to have a PC beside your mac to play.
I have the 16gb ram M3 IMac 256gb ssd and 8core GPU using the settings you have shown, my iMac CPU reaches 105 degrees of temperature with resident evi. The outside temperature is 39degres. is the same for you ? How can I solve the problem? Is it normal or not ? The m3 iMac is brand new
Do you think that world of warcraft would be playable on iMac M3? Thank you
This is a bit less performance than I thought and isn't really gaming ready. It's better than previous Macs but that's not saying anything really. My wish is an Apple TV console.
How do you run all these games on Mac? I have a Mac but it doesn't run games, what program do I need to run the games?
if u figure it out, pls share. thanks 🙏🏻
The best solution for Mac Gaming is not Crossover or Parallels or waiting for some Apple promise. It's GeforceNOW Game Streaming. I play every game from my existing Steam or Epic library on Macbook Pro M1 at highest settings. The fans don't even kick in. It costs 10 bucks a months. For this price i save on expensive gaming hardware and energy costs.
For an office machine it’s doing pretty good and it’s fanless right?
If u need a desktop Apple machine for your office it’s still a good choice.
Thx for the vid, Mac gaming is clearly on rise and to grow.
Base model is fanless, the upgraded model has fans.
@@PromotingTheBeatI thought base model had 1 fan/upgraded had 2? Or is that just the m1?
@@Goalatio You're right, I think I confused the heat pipe not being in the base model while the higher ones have one.
‘Lies of P’ is what I tell my date
Thank you for your content would it be possible to run Diablo 4 with crossover and hogwarts legacy because I am running m1 Mac mini at 1080p and getting 30-36fps at low settings….thanks
OMG PROFESSOR SNAPE
It looks good for 1080p
It would be way easier to recommend this iMac if the base version was equipped with 10-core GPU, 16GB of ram, 512GB of storage and lastly have Touch ID. The next step up should have been equipped with the M3 Pro with 18Gb og ram and maintain the storage of 512Gb. That would offer great value!
Currenly the new MacBook Pro lineup is better value for money, which should not be the case, because the Imac has a worse screen, even though it's larger. It features less ports and doesn't have a big battery inside.
Therefore it should be cheaper. But I think the market dictates the move towards laptops.
The Macs are very limited on what they run, so more power doesn’t mean that you can do more. The base model should have 12 or 16 GB Ram;
Have you seen any issues with strange graphics issues? I've seen RGB flicker and artifacting that make some games unplayable.
Examples Warhammer 3, and Witcher 2
never had that issue
This has been resolved on Warhammer 3 as of their latest updates.
You sound like Professor Snape 😂
Who is the target audience? The same people who were blown away by the M1, owners who also want a wonderful built-in screen. In late 2020 when the M1 launched UA-cam was saturated with performance test videos; the M1 MacPro blew the competition away in practically every test the Mac Air delivered great results with throttling. I always have to raise a smile when a reviewer says, "Family computer"; even the basic M3, like the M1 before it, destroys the Intel equivalent and still triumphs in high-end, professional video and audio editing and rendering/production, arguably the reason the M3 was designed. In summary, your M3 iMac has all the benefits discussed above with gaming as a bonus. Ta.
You're delusional, you could put together a PC for less than $2000 that will absolutely shit on apple's $8000 imac.
Mac gaming still has a long way to go but this seems promising for the future.
Macs aren't really for gaming, but If you plan to do any form of gaming on a mac, you should probably at least get the upgrade from 8 to 16 GB of uniform memory.
Both PS5 and series X have 16 gigabytes of shared memory, and most gaming PC's these days are being built with 32 or 64 gigbaytes of dedicated memory, and their GPU's often have 8 gigabytes + of Vram too.
The uniform memory in the macs means all of it is shared between GPU and system, and a lot of modern titles are filling up the Vram very quickly due to the high resolution textures and highly detailed models and environments.
I bought the Mac Mini M1 a few months after its launch... I have never regretted the purchase and only now am I able to appreciate its potential thanks to the maturity of the libraries and software. I see this new generation of M3 as a wasted opportunity and a reduction in the technological advantage that Apple had gained with the new Silicon SOC. And it's a real shame... it seems that Apple, despite its statements, really doesn't want to break into the gaming market.
What was wasted? The M3 generation is the best so far 😅
There are major gaps between two operating systems and also core differentiation between Arm and intel x86 or x64 instruction sets. I expect a complete reworks of those game titles for full compatibility. Because I doubt that those games have been programmed with intel only in mind of developers. And also, games are built on graphic frameworks, like unreal engines, but unreal engines have built on intel. So maybe if Apple were serious, they would collaborate with game engine vendors, directly
@@onceuponfewtime they already have with unity. Unity games run just fine
@@onceuponfewtimeexactly. Apple will need to pay Epic Games for Unreal engine optimizations and porting to Apple's custom arm chips. Also new games like GTA6 must be optimized in alpha stages for it to be good on Mac.
@@chidorirasenganz He's just trying to convince himself that he doesn't need a new iMac on the M3 😂
1440p is not "2K". 2K is a standard used by digital cinema that has a very slightly higher resolution than 1080p. Usually 2048 × 1080
Which of those games you think they will be ported to the iPad?
Not many, no mans sky might but the others won't for a long time
Actually sorry, Resident Evil Village is already on iPad on the App Store And Resident Evil 4
So, about a RX570 performance with Raytracing? Scarry!
Does anybody know how well this thing runs world of Warcraft?
What about World of Warcraft? (one of the classics that you unfortunately can't play on a console.)
the screen tearing makes me cry
The M3 is just the building blocks for gaming on a Mac so later in the future,
Consider buying pro or max for gaming.
Heroes of the Storm and Statcraft please
Nice video though you didn't show the more popular windows games like cyberpunk Forza GTA etc. So for the result it is less powerful than amd rdna 2 igpu in gaming.
For the price and for the games that are showcased, might as well build a $500 AMD PC with graphic cards or buy a console.
No one ever buys a Mac thinking to play games on it, and if you’re just buying computers to just run games on it you have a priority problem. I think it’s good to know that in the process of prioritizing, production over gaming you still get the added benefits of doing some kind of gaming with the money you’re selling out. For 500 dollars you’ll play games yes but playing games isn’t and shouldn’t be the only reason you have a powerful PC.
@@BrickEffect The context of this video is using M3 iMac for gaming not for production tasks. Wrong. The majority of Mac consumers are not computer scientists, they are using Macs for basic production tasks such as word processor and browsing the web. Mac marketing is geared toward the mass consumer above all.
@@jacqueslee2592I think you’ve missed the point of Mac gaming videos. The primary thing I do on my Mac is not gaming related. But I’m interested to know what runs well and what doesn’t. I don’t want a gaming PC because I literally cannot stand windows. I sold my gaming PC last year because I hardly ever used it. Turns out my M2 MBA can run most of the games I want to play at high or ultra graphics at 1080p. Good enough for me and I don’t have a windows paper weight sitting under my desk with some dumb RGB lighting.
Um what GPU and CPU are you using that would make the PC cost 500 dollars?
Or buy a Steam Deck OLED for $550 and get a whole computer with 16 GB of memory, a 512 GB SSD, a better display than the iMac, better game compatibility, all at a similar performance level.
FIRST. love the channel Stew!!!
Until Apple takes gaming on Macs seriously, they'll never be competitive.
It’s not suppose to be competitive for gaming, people who use iMacs are usually doing business, editing, photoshop etc, and/or multitasking
The ecosystem is what drives sales
Its communication design .
Lies of P:
1080P - 50fps - high preset - FSR Balanced.
27 watts Total system power draw including screen.
AMD 6800H - 680m - iGPU
I am sure the Mac draws similar or higher power in this game.
My point is M3 or Apple Silicon is not a miracle and the AMD 6800H is a 2 years old chip now.
The power draw was intentionally limited to simulate the SOC's efficiency.
Is this the voice actor of Lance Stroll?
the M3 imac like the M1 can game but your liminted in gamming in the PC gamming world you want to game ponly up the cash and mac is the same thing .
Great video. Could you please test Beam NG drive? Thank you
my question is why Apple hasn't released Greed legends yet?? it 's already been 2 years and there are no games that were talked about , it turns out they 're just lying ?
So i own a M3 Max with with the highest GPU and 48GB of URAM. I should be good to play anything Mac has to offer game wise right 🤣.
To enable Metal Performance HUD
Open terminal Paste launchctl setenv MTL_HUD_ENABLED 1
To disable change 1 to 0
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14gpu m1pro vs m3 vs 16gpu m2pro
I wish you showed War Thunder, I would’ve like your opinion on it.
Even if the M3 iMac can outpreform the 2020 Intel iMac with the i9 and 5700XT, I still wouldnt get it. I want it in 27 inches and Space Grey! An SD slot on the side would also do nicely. 120hz too, and M3 Max. Then it would be the perfect computer. I dont care for the Mac Studio im an all in one person and Apple is the only company that made them the way they should have been
A Steam Deck with a 10x price increase! :D
The Quality Mode is not equal to Nativ!! The Pixels are lower!
Video lag ...
for an all in one PC with integrated graphics, these are incredible results
But not for the Price. Forget about emulated games. Native games perform the same as PC with RTX 3050.
Even a 600$ PC with Rx 6600/6650xt perform better.
nobody buys Mac for gaming. even if it runs smooth at 60fps..
because not all games will be supported after all.. (PS5, XBOX, Steam, Epic, Gamepass etc. support hundereds-thousands of games)
I'm waiting for Apple to sell the cheap m3 Mac mini.
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Where is War Thunder? :c
For the iMac price all you get is a GTX1650 performance
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None of those figures are anything to be proud of for those games
where is roblox
Pretty bad performance across all titles don’t know if it is because of the chip or actual optimisation is bad
Both
8 FPS is not unplayable. It is very poor
You can buy a PC that will perfectly run games + will be much better for working purposes. I cant see any reason to buy a Mac.
Better for gaming, yes. Better for productivity is completely subjective.
@gnomishviking3013 the majority of Windows computers can be used for work.
Gaming on Mac? Are you some sort of a fool?
Yes
@@MrMacRight lol. Well at least you admit it. I do hope you are at least happy with your purchase. Enjoy
Just Bad Performance for the price
Lol. Performance was laughable.
Lies of P, No mans sky, Resident Evil Village are native on Mac but it runs as same as RTX 3050 lol 😂😂.
Even a RTX 3050 6gb laptop run these games as same as this Mac for less than half the price of iMac version he using 😂😂😂.
Even a 600$ pc with Ryzen 5 5600 and RX 6600 will run these games even better 😂😂.
Apple is extremely capitalist, extremely greedy, and extremely selfish. Always with his smile abusing customers. It's about time to stop buying Apple products.
Every corporation is capitalist under capitalism. Including microsoft, intel nvidia and amd. Now if you’re saying let’s overthrow capitalism that’s a different story
@@chidorirasenganz True, but Microsoft and Intel are more pro consumer and transparent. You have a lot options to go from low to premium builds for whatever uses you are planning to use your PC.
This review was boring. Please make it more interesting to watch.
Each to their own