Andrew Simpson Lari took control with Elias as well. Lari made the first, second and third move. I think it's just natural for Lari to do so when he wants something. He's still only a teenager though. He's going to make mistakes sometimes. Making a move on Kalle doesn't make him more mature or more of a man. He's just feeling more confident about being gay and now he is the one who wants to have a real relationship that isn't hidden. That is the only thing that has changed.
***** The legal age of consent in Finland is 16, so the government thinks Lari is 18 and mature enough to make sexual decisions, Plus his openness with being gay and his desire for a relationship shows a developing maturity on Lari's part, while Elias jealousy and animus is evidence of Elias becoming less mature.
Alonso Valera Everything you've just said is subjective and filtered through your dislike of Elias, which is fine. Just don't try to justify your feelings about a fictional characters by using the laws of Finland. You don't like Elias. There is nothing wrong with that. But your feelings don't change the fact that as written, Elias and Lari are in love with each other and whatever Elias is or however he behaves, Lari doesn't not feel the way that you do about Elias. Who Lari dates will ultimately be dependent upon how Lari feels, not what you think. I would rather respect the characters as they are. Lari and Elias are different from each other but that doesn't make one more or less mature, they just handle things differently.
I am not projecting anything onto Lari. The way this scene was written and the buildup to it show a growing attraction, sexual-chemistry and willingness of Lari to move on with Kalli. You are the one projecting your own desire to see the boys back together as a romantic couple. Elias continues to show an attachment to Lari, but Lari does not show the same for Elias. You should thus respect the characterizations, which shows a maturing Lari and a less mature Elias.
oh! now Lari can understand Elias's feeling and Preview is so excited. thank you for sharing video and love you. Hope you followed it ( story) to the end. Larias
Well I am happy predicted what would happen correctly but regardless I have to say I am still disappointed w/ Kalle. After all that yearning and longing and lusting after Lari he is now acting like a tool. But this is also reminiscent of what happened the first time Lari and Elias slept together. It was Lari who acted like Kalle is now and it seems his karma is catching up to him. It's too bad because this relationship had the potential to be really good. In the meanwhile....Thanks MissF as always for the upload. I've been looking forward to them all week and I'm happy you are able to take the time to do this for us in North America :)
more importantly at least Lari knows how Kalle feels in wanted to keep them a secret as he has been there, the fear of being disapproved and having some people turn their backs on you
I understand that Kalle has had troubled relationships in the past which may be holding him back now. He needs to find the courage to talk honestly and openly to Lari about exactly what he feels, and his reservations.
Poor Lari - we've all been there. ;-) Luckily, I didn't jump right into bed back then - and so was less involved when the other one finally admitted of not being sure. Not a nice place to be in. :-(
i always want lari and elias will be together again, but it's also sad to see lari is unhappy whit his new relationship with kalle, and elias is unhappy with miska's secret. but only that they hurt lari and elias, lari and elias will get the chance to get back together.
Funny how the tables have turned a bit for Lari - it wasn't that long ago he was not comfortable having his relationship with Elias go public, now Kalle is giving him what he gave Elias. If nothing else, it will give Lari empathy for what he put Elias through. I don't think Kalle will be able to get over their age difference - at least not feel comfortable with it. As he is a Doctor and has a professional reputation to keep, he is likely to very cautious. So many little twists and turns presented lately - I do hope we get these relationships in line soon! :)
Can I have the name of that fast acting spot cream. Lari had a huge spot on his head when he was talking to Janne at The Moose but by the time he was talking to Kalle it had gone!
Josaphine Roche Yes, it was a pimple that obscured his boundless beauty. The remaining of the scene, probably was shot days later, when the pimple had been kicked away, to restore the wonderful forehead. in italiano Sì, era un foruncolo che offuscava la sua sconfinata bellezza. Il resto della scena, probabilmente è stato girato giorni dopo, quando il brufolo era stato calciato via, per ripristinare la meravigliosa fronte.
Kalle is being insufferable but I can understand his hesitations. People around him seem to be telling him one way or other that he shouldn't date anyone so young as Lari. It's not always easy to go against other people's opinions.
I love reading these comments from yester years- of course he is being insufferable, he got married at the same age Lari is now to someone who was older and his boss/ his senior in the Finish army. He knows exactly as he had to suffer comments of him being gay at 18 in the army so he could be thinking about what he went through. Anyway, I have seen when Lari returned and still wanting Kalle, Kalle has really set Lari free now.
Dammit, is Kalle the Lari of this new relationship? Elias wanted to shout it from the rooftops, but Lari was all for secret loving. I guess now he knows how it feels.
In my opinion Kalle is afraid. His whole family has now shown disapproval towards him and Lari. After everything his dad, mum, sister and Janne have said he is feeling ashamed of himself. Perhaps he's afraid of losing his family. I think Kalle asked Sanni about him and Lari because he wanted to discover what she would think about the issue. Janne has ridiculed him for getting young boy, Ismo has been suspicious and unhappy, Kristiina has openly stated the problems of their possible relationship and now Sanni laughed when imagining Kalle and Lari together. I would have been very surprised if Kalle didn't hesitate after all that. He is kind of delicate person. Hopefully he can overcome that.
Its not just you. Believe me i've watch all of the story including all back-story. And at first I thought no way cause that would be to weird. But this part definitely gave me a bigger janne liking Lari vibe.
Excuse me, but I'm still not used to seeing someone else but Elias laying down in Lari's arms (and probably I'll never be), but it was inevitable that Lari and Kalle will end up in bed together ( after Lari's confidence and Kalle's hunger for kissing him, yeah). And then the drama in Lari's life is back on a track. Seriously, can't they just leave him be happy, even for one day?!? Yeah, maybe he deserves to feel the same pain from being Kalle's "secret lover" , just like he did with Elias. But I think the situation then was completely different from now - if in the beginning there were TWO TEENAGE BOYS, now they are A TEENAGE BOY AND A MATURE MAN. And yeas, maybe this is the main problem and the reason Kalle to be so scared from his family's/people's opinion. But If we look back exactly he made the first steps towards Lari, they went оn a date, even touched his hands in public.. Don't get me wrong, I don't blame him, just can't understand. I mean Kalle fought for this when Lari was so unsure, and now when Lari himself tells him he's ready and wants this, Kalle makes some steps back. Hope he decides soon. .. Also the scene with Lari and Janne, I expected a different reaction, totally miss his "stethoscope" innuendos. But I'm happy to see him supporting and encouraging Lari - his words " Just go and don't come back defeated.", it was so sweet , something only a real friend will do and say :) ..
***** I agree! The authors are clearly contradictory. Their problem is to be able to bring back together Elias and Lari, but maybe they no longer know how to do well, after all that they have done so far. in italiano Sono d'accordo! Gli autori sono chiaramente contraddittori. Il loro problema è riuscire a far tornare insieme Elias e Lari, ma forse loro non sanno più bene come fare, dopo tutto quello che hanno fatto finora.
I really hope that lari and elias get back together. Especially if he elias ever finds out miska is cheating on him. Which i hope he does and finally kicks miska to the curb.
Wait why the hell is Kalle acting so immature like this all of a sudden? His character is so out of proportion from what we saw in the past few months... isn't he supposed to be the one that's proud and strong of who is really isand not be acting like an insecure person ? Where are the writers going with this ?
LovelyXoxo They must find a reason to interrupt the relationship between the two, because Lari must return with Elias. in italiano Devono trovare una ragione per interrompere la relazione tra i due, perché Lari deve tornare con Elias.
He's still proud of who he is but i think he's acting a bitinsecuew because he thinks lari is so young and everyone around him keeps saying that. He isnt sure if he can deal with dating a guy who is so much younger. Plus like miss finn has said that the writers are probably trying to make lari feel like elias felt when he was dating lari cuz lari was so ashamed of elias and now kalle is doing the same thing.
Come on writers~~~ Kalle was so mature and everything he was making lari fele comfortable... making the moves... and now he's acting all different because well the writers want to break them upT.T.... I'm sad...
Lari likes Kalle because Kalle is convenient (not that Kalle isn't attractive, smart, funny or caring, he is all of those things and sexy). I think Kalle likes Lari for the same reason. They are comfortable with each other. They like each other. But there is no passion, no longing, no desire there. That doesn't mean they shouldn't date but it does mean a relationship between Kalle & Lari might not have a long future. We know what Lari is like when he is in love and can't keep his hands of of someone. We know the same about Elias. We know Lari is still in love with Elias and so does he and I think Kalle suspects it. Lari didn't consider Kalle until after his last discussion with Elias about his feelings for him. I think it's brave and good of Lari and Elias both to TRY to be with other people (even though folks keep calling them liars and saying they are in denial) but those other people are inevitably going to get hurt until Elias and Lari resolve their feelings for each other one way or the other. I suspect Miska and Kalle already know this too. I think Elias and Lari needed a break no matter what else happened and so we shall see how they make their way back to each other. I don't think it makes any one of these guys a bad person because they are trying to move forward with their lives. Kalle is ready to date again which is great and it makes sense he would do for someone nonthreatening. Lari is new to dating so it make sense he would go for someone he trusts and respects. Elias is trying to not go backwards so it makes sense that he wants to try to be loyal to Miska. Miska is really the only person who is madly in love with the person he is with and will most like be the one most hurt when it all blows up. Bless his heart.
Love it!! After weeks of sexual tension between these two, they finally get it on!! Even when they r sitting down at the table, Lari can't stop staring at Kalle. I can understand how he feels a little awkward about the age gap though - 2 many people find big age gaps (especially if 1 is in their l8 teens) a little hard 2 get their heads round. If u want someone, go get em!!!
No...but somehow I have the feeling that this time it's all a bit more "dressed" due to Kalle's "less than ideal" physique. ;) Sorry, I'm mean...but I have the feeling that the actor isn't that comfortable showing his body.
After sleeping together, Lari looks happy, while Kalle looks freaked out. It's not like Lari some child that Kalle took advantage of. Lari's has had a hard life and has grown up a lot and he knew what he was doing when he slept with Kalle. I was worried about Kalle when Lari and Elias eventually get back together, but I think Kalle will be ok. It's Lari I'm worried for now, he can't seem to catch a break in the love department.
it's ironic how the past keep catching up on Lari i think now he will understand Elias perspective & how he felt ... too bad for kalle if he can't deiced for himself his lost not lari
I'm not so sure I am so joyful at the past keeps catching up with Lari, I think he has lost the most in all this, he doesn't need to learn anymore disappointment. He was 16 I think when he got together with Elias, most at that age are confused (I'm not talking about sexuality but what direction you take because everything starts to change). I try not to hold mistakes a 16 year old makes against them especially when they have apologized so many times, time to move on and now he has turned in to a much better person. ( I may make a special case for Elias cause the character annoys me- only joking) This is not karma it is different issues about social circles, snobbery ....it seems to not cross people's minds that lari will be more understanding of Kalle's position in the end because he lost all and knows how difficult certain situations can be when people are going to judge you and turn their back on you.
Los guionistas no saben lo qué quieren, durante 1 mes, nos venden el principio de romance entre Lari y Kalle, y cuando este finalmente se da, hacen que Kalle, se vuelva un inseguro. Además hacen tanto escándalo, por la diferencia de edad, ni que nunca hubiera habido una pareja que se lleva varios años.
I can't even watch this....I plan to read comments and crying....I'm going to re watch when Elias and Lari will again together....I hope they will give us Christmas present...:/
I really feel sorry for Kalle, i understand where he comes from, just like all of us have opinions for and against it, in real relationships so do people around you. They are sometimes with good intentions. Lari is insecure because he is young and thinks Kalle thinks of him as too young, where as Kalle is older and wiser and has been out of a relationship for a while, he has worked out from those around him he will cop flack for being with someone as young as Lari. I think Kalle is trying to navigate it in his own mind at the moment, he needs to tell Lari so they can face the public debate together. I would not want to be in Kalle's mind on following your heart v's justifying your choice of partner. I also understand his thoughts on sex as well, its an emotional bond and connects you stronger to the person you care about, or suppose to. For Kalle he already cares about Lari, but he is battling his demons so much at the moment that even though he wanted to be with Lari sexually, he still cant escape his own head of other peoples opinions to really relax and enjoy the moment.....aww poor Kalle, be straight and I will give you a big hug and help you sort it out....lol
Though I don't like this is going through, just the same as Elias falls to Miska & Now Lari falls to Kalle. despite all that, I still think Lari's moving on into a new relationship is good and i find the new paring very cute....
If I was Kalle, I would state simply and firmly, without raising my voice: "We will talk about this tonight." If Lari understands, the salad is paid for, the doctor has lunch. Otherwise, Kalle walks away with the salad in Lari's hand. I would NEVER permit someone to place me in such an awkward situation in public. [edit,delete: People were in line, Lari.] Think about it. And apologize at home later. Do we blame Ilkka and Lari's late mother for this incident?
Alvin Simon I think you're exaggerating a little. Lari speaks subheading with Kalle, the bar is half empty, no one is listening. I do not think he should apologize, even if it probably will, because Kalle is his mentor. Lari asks a very important thing for him. The embarrassment of Kalle's his problem, is not derived from Lari. in italiano Credo che tu stia esagerando un poco. Lari parla con Kalle sottovoce, il bar è mezzo vuoto, nessuno sta ascoltandoli. Non penso che lui debba scusarsi, anche se probabilmente lo farà, perché Kalle è il suo mentore. Lari chiede una cosa molto importante per sé. L'imbarazzo di Kalle è un problema suo, non deriva da Lari.
just for the record, not all Finnish men are as "cautious" as Kalle, esp. when they are already out. 16 or 20 years age difference is not an issue, esp. in places like Helsinki.
Why is Janne being so weird around Lari? He didn't look happy about Lari and Kalle finally sleeping with each other? Is there a reason? Did I miss something?
sabinasabina2010 Maybe he should start thinking about contraception! Tsss, Janne dug his own grave - so to speak. Not to mention that there are worse things than becoming a father. :)
teen4ever Sanni too at that, she is the one who has to give birth and become a mother. Yikes the thought of passing it off as Tale's baby, what if it gets sick and needs something from his natural father? oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive. Everytime I see Lari and Sanni together it hits home to me how much more mature Lari is to the other teens...
haha ok i see where this is going, so basically Lari is getting the same treatment as he gave to Elias, when he was with elias he was not comfortable with being in public, and now his date is not comfortable being with him in public
kalle et lari c est une histoire qui ne prendra pas en plus lari va apprendre des chose sur miska et va tout faire pour protéger elias et oui l amour continue entre elias et lari quand lari va t il apprendre pour l argent ( l enveloppe que elias a glisser dans la boite au lettre )
There is one problem in this direction ,as I suspect Elias will not believe Lari,so in my opinion it better someone else will open Elia or he will discover by himself
It's funny Kalle is acting like Lari, when Lari was with Elias. Kalle say's don't tell anyone, we were together. And what's up with Janne, why was he acting so strange, He wanted Lari to be with Kalle, now Janne looks disturbed by them being together
isapostolos so not possible (but I'm the wrong person to ask as I have just had an argument with my partner, stormed upstairs, now on the computer and have tried to google how to tele-port Lari and my partner so they switch places- had no luck there!)
Hurrah cute Janne has been missing too long (though hopefully he will be a bit more circumspect about blabbing all the details to others this time). Well done Lari on taking the lead, you really are out of the closet now. So what if there's a few years between you? To quote the James Taylor song "If it feels right, don't think twice". Lari is old enough to make up his own mind whereas Elias is far too whiney / suspicious these days...(.....wait for the backlash)
finally, they did it ... so let´s get over with this farce and split them up propperly because this Lari+Kalle-thing is pathetic as long as Lari is still so not over Elias ...
In my opinion, I really don't see anything that call love in Kalle's eyes or Lari's eyes, honestly, I dunno why, I watch they live together, have a date and sex, but don't feel love between them like Larias have had before, maybe I'm a big Larias fan lol, I really love the way Lari and Elias love each other than Lari and Kalle, sometimes they do sth stupid, act like a child, have a fight, mistakes but that is love, "Love is blind". I believe that if you really love so, you will do sth stupid like Elias do. So just give them back, please.
because they have not been together that long...it took Larias a while to get there remember. After they slept together Lari went back in to denial, Elias was avoiding Ida, ida was running around the school saying she was pregnant when she was anorexic, Larias ended their relationship for the sake of Ida,Tale blurted out to Lari that Elias told him he was gay, Elias and Lari had an argument on the ice and Elias hit his head...only then did they really start becoming a couple and Lari said I love you ages after for the first time after he kissed the girl at the ball..it takes time. Kalle and Lari are not even in a relationship yet, let alone talk about the look of 'love'
maybe I'm a big Larias fan :v so I have a look like that....but I do remember that before being a couple, despite Lari confused, denied feeling for Elias, his dad prevented and tried to convince him but anything he did, I can easily recognize that he was into Elias, I mean that it's nature but now, I watch and see that he choose love Kalle than he fall in love with Kalle, something like he need love Kalle than he's in love with Kalle. That's why I said like that.
sabinasabina2010 yes,maybe let's wait. I'm afraid, you know that, this is a soap and something crazy maybe can happen like many soap I watched before such as Luke and Noah lol :v. If Larias can not be back together (even though I don't like that idea and hope it never happen), I really hope that the writer will let Lari meet someone else (not Kalle, I know he is a good guy) that he will fall in love, just love like he had have for Elias, not because someone said that that guy is good for him, bla bla....I think it real than now, yes, we live in the world with 7bl people and anything can be happend, who knows lol :v
teen4ever I think they are all in denial. Elias is denying his feelings for Lari because Elias has a boyfriend whom he doesn't want to hurt. Lari is denying his feelings for Elias because he doesn't think there is any possibility of them being together again. Kalle is denying the fact that being with Lari is more about the fact that he feels safe with Lari and it's easy than any real attraction to more than Lari's body. Miska is denying the fact that he knows Elias is still in love with Lari and that Lari is still in love with Elias and their relationship is doomed. All for of them are firmly holding onto denial with a vice grip, not just Elias.
he just found out Sanni is pregnant and his is the dad even though she is dating Tale and he thinks he is the father and Janne is Tale's close friend and lives with him...he has other things on his mind
Miska is cheating on Elias - it was all in a comment ages back that no one knew much about him. Guess-line: Elias has to find out at some time ..... then what? oh dear.
I promptly let each of the reviews, I think Kalle is not right do not know how to lead a relationship although either of age, after what happened with lari time ..... and will understand what I felt Elias Lari when it was together, Lari was he who carried the embers of miska I am not in agreement with this relationship,, am very disappointed if the writers knew very well what happen with Kalle.por iva things to do so .. that no taxes to be comfortable with the relationship ... there are arguments the characters are not very clear, or episodes MUST be consistent in each in history ..... hogala pass very rapiso disque realacion Kalle and lari, and i want to see Elias Lari and they go together and clarifying the episodes ..... !!!!!! and be more interesting ...... !!!!!
Luigi C Isn't it 'Faith, Hope and LOVE' (love being the greatest/most important of the three)? :) In consequence, the writers should have love for the fans - this should make sure of our hoped for endgame. :)
I like Lari taking CONTROL he is really maturing into a man now. Lari really likes Kalle which Kalle needs to realize.
Andrew Simpson Lari took control with Elias as well. Lari made the first, second and third move. I think it's just natural for Lari to do so when he wants something. He's still only a teenager though. He's going to make mistakes sometimes. Making a move on Kalle doesn't make him more mature or more of a man. He's just feeling more confident about being gay and now he is the one who wants to have a real relationship that isn't hidden. That is the only thing that has changed.
***** The legal age of consent in Finland is 16, so the government thinks Lari is 18 and mature enough to make sexual decisions, Plus his openness with being gay and his desire for a relationship shows a developing maturity on Lari's part, while Elias jealousy and animus is evidence of Elias becoming less mature.
Alonso Valera Everything you've just said is subjective and filtered through your dislike of Elias, which is fine. Just don't try to justify your feelings about a fictional characters by using the laws of Finland. You don't like Elias. There is nothing wrong with that.
But your feelings don't change the fact that as written, Elias and Lari are in love with each other and whatever Elias is or however he behaves, Lari doesn't not feel the way that you do about Elias. Who Lari dates will ultimately be dependent upon how Lari feels, not what you think.
I would rather respect the characters as they are. Lari and Elias are different from each other but that doesn't make one more or less mature, they just handle things differently.
I am not projecting anything onto Lari. The way this scene was written and the buildup to it show a growing attraction, sexual-chemistry and willingness of Lari to move on with Kalli. You are the one projecting your own desire to see the boys back together as a romantic couple. Elias continues to show an attachment to Lari, but Lari does not show the same for Elias. You should thus respect the characterizations, which shows a maturing Lari and a less mature Elias.
whatever Lari's and kalle's problems are in their relationship...at least they are not blaming it on their ex!
refreshing, isn't it
sabinasabina2010 , yes so true atleast their not playing the blame game
ok can't resist anymore....
Kalle 'I had a really hard day'
That is right Kalle, something got really hard lol
oh! now Lari can understand Elias's feeling and Preview is so excited.
thank you for sharing video and love you.
Hope you followed it ( story) to the end.
Larias
Well I am happy predicted what would happen correctly but regardless I have to say I am still disappointed w/ Kalle. After all that yearning and longing and lusting after Lari he is now acting like a tool.
But this is also reminiscent of what happened the first time Lari and Elias slept together. It was Lari who acted like Kalle is now and it seems his karma is catching up to him.
It's too bad because this relationship had the potential to be really good. In the meanwhile....Thanks MissF as always for the upload. I've been looking forward to them all week and I'm happy you are able to take the time to do this for us in North America :)
at least Lari knows now how he made Elias feel when he didn't want anyone to know about them.
more importantly at least Lari knows how Kalle feels in wanted to keep them a secret as he has been there, the fear of being disapproved and having some people turn their backs on you
Say yes, just go for it
I understand that Kalle has had troubled relationships in the past which may be holding him back now. He needs to find the courage to talk honestly and openly to Lari about exactly what he feels, and his reservations.
Poor Lari - we've all been there. ;-) Luckily, I didn't jump right into bed back then - and so was less involved when the other one finally admitted of not being sure. Not a nice place to be in. :-(
yeah..unfortunately been there
i always want lari and elias will be together again, but it's also sad to see lari is unhappy whit his new relationship with kalle, and elias is unhappy with miska's secret. but only that they hurt lari and elias, lari and elias will get the chance to get back together.
Funny how the tables have turned a bit for Lari - it wasn't that long ago he was not comfortable having his relationship with Elias go public, now Kalle is giving him what he gave Elias. If nothing else, it will give Lari empathy for what he put Elias through. I don't think Kalle will be able to get over their age difference - at least not feel comfortable with it. As he is a Doctor and has a professional reputation to keep, he is likely to very cautious. So many little twists and turns presented lately - I do hope we get these relationships in line soon! :)
or understand in the end how difficult it is for Kalle if people will judge him and turn his back on him as he has been there...could go either way
"hope we get these relationships in line soon" - you wish! ;-) sadly, it's a soap :)
Can I have the name of that fast acting spot cream. Lari had a huge spot on his head when he was talking to Janne at The Moose but by the time he was talking to Kalle it had gone!
Josaphine Roche Yes, it was a pimple that obscured his boundless beauty. The remaining of the scene, probably was shot days later, when the pimple had been kicked away, to restore the wonderful forehead.
in italiano
Sì, era un foruncolo che offuscava la sua sconfinata bellezza. Il resto della scena, probabilmente è stato girato giorni dopo, quando il brufolo era stato calciato via, per ripristinare la meravigliosa fronte.
I hadn't noticed until you pointed it out! It should appear on one of those programmes making fun of continuity errors on TV and in films.
I have also noticed same pimple in episodes while appeared later. When re-watching episodes, all I spot is the pimple!
Kalle is now like lari when he was with elias
Kalle is being insufferable but I can understand his hesitations. People around him seem to be telling him one way or other that he shouldn't date anyone so young as Lari. It's not always easy to go against other people's opinions.
vladraptor I think Kalle has his own doubts about dating someone who is 18 and freshly out of the closet. It's not just about his family's opinions.
***** True and people around him does not help with those doubts.
I love reading these comments from yester years- of course he is being insufferable, he got married at the same age Lari is now to someone who was older and his boss/ his senior in the Finish army. He knows exactly as he had to suffer comments of him being gay at 18 in the army so he could be thinking about what he went through. Anyway, I have seen when Lari returned and still wanting Kalle, Kalle has really set Lari free now.
Dammit, is Kalle the Lari of this new relationship? Elias wanted to shout it from the rooftops, but Lari was all for secret loving. I guess now he knows how it feels.
In my opinion Kalle is afraid. His whole family has now shown disapproval towards him and Lari. After everything his dad, mum, sister and Janne have said he is feeling ashamed of himself. Perhaps he's afraid of losing his family. I think Kalle asked Sanni about him and Lari because he wanted to discover what she would think about the issue. Janne has ridiculed him for getting young boy, Ismo has been suspicious and unhappy, Kristiina has openly stated the problems of their possible relationship and now Sanni laughed when imagining Kalle and Lari together.
I would have been very surprised if Kalle didn't hesitate after all that. He is kind of delicate person. Hopefully he can overcome that.
kalle's smile
Ismo and Sanni must be blind sitting around that table not to notice Lari making eyes at Kalle
It's me or Janne has something for Lari ?
It's you. ;) (But you're right, without knowing the backstory, his facial expressions had a bit of that.)
Its not just you. Believe me i've watch all of the story including all back-story. And at first I thought no way cause that would be to weird. But this part definitely gave me a bigger janne liking Lari vibe.
Aaron Ward it's just you and that thing is called friendship
SAD, SAD TIMES ARE AHEAD!
They should just make Janne gay. He and Lari would really look great together.
+Nacho Garchitorena hahahahahahahaha I like that!!!
eww never 🤢
Excuse me, but I'm still not used to seeing someone else but Elias laying down in Lari's arms (and probably I'll never be), but it was inevitable that Lari and Kalle will end up in bed together ( after Lari's confidence and Kalle's hunger for kissing him, yeah). And then the drama in Lari's life is back on a track. Seriously, can't they just leave him be happy, even for one day?!? Yeah, maybe he deserves to feel the same pain from being Kalle's "secret lover" , just like he did with Elias. But I think the situation then was completely different from now - if in the beginning there were TWO TEENAGE BOYS, now they are A TEENAGE BOY AND A MATURE MAN. And yeas, maybe this is the main problem and the reason Kalle to be so scared from his family's/people's opinion. But If we look back exactly he made the first steps towards Lari, they went оn a date, even touched his hands in public.. Don't get me wrong, I don't blame him, just can't understand. I mean Kalle fought for this when Lari was so unsure, and now when Lari himself tells him he's ready and wants this, Kalle makes some steps back. Hope he decides soon. .. Also the scene with Lari and Janne, I expected a different reaction, totally miss his "stethoscope" innuendos. But I'm happy to see him supporting and encouraging Lari - his words " Just go and don't come back defeated.", it was so sweet , something only a real friend will do and say :) ..
***** I agree! The authors are clearly contradictory. Their problem is to be able to bring back together Elias and Lari, but maybe they no longer know how to do well, after all that they have done so far.
in italiano
Sono d'accordo! Gli autori sono chiaramente contraddittori. Il loro problema è riuscire a far tornare insieme Elias e Lari, ma forse loro non sanno più bene come fare, dopo tutto quello che hanno fatto finora.
I COMPLETELY agree with you lol...! I feel exactly the same about this.
IS there ever an end to this story
I really hope that lari and elias get back together. Especially if he elias ever finds out miska is cheating on him. Which i hope he does and finally kicks miska to the curb.
Wait why the hell is Kalle acting so immature like this all of a sudden? His character is so out of proportion from what we saw in the past few months... isn't he supposed to be the one that's proud and strong of who is really isand not be acting like an insecure person ? Where are the writers going with this ?
LovelyXoxo They must find a reason to interrupt the relationship between the two, because Lari must return with Elias.
in italiano
Devono trovare una ragione per interrompere la relazione tra i due, perché Lari deve tornare con Elias.
He's still proud of who he is but i think he's acting a bitinsecuew because he thinks lari is so young and everyone around him keeps saying that. He isnt sure if he can deal with dating a guy who is so much younger. Plus like miss finn has said that the writers are probably trying to make lari feel like elias felt when he was dating lari cuz lari was so ashamed of elias and now kalle is doing the same thing.
Come on writers~~~ Kalle was so mature and everything he was making lari fele comfortable... making the moves... and now he's acting all different because well the writers want to break them upT.T.... I'm sad...
Lari likes Kalle because Kalle is convenient (not that Kalle isn't attractive, smart, funny or caring, he is all of those things and sexy). I think Kalle likes Lari for the same reason. They are comfortable with each other. They like each other. But there is no passion, no longing, no desire there. That doesn't mean they shouldn't date but it does mean a relationship between Kalle & Lari might not have a long future.
We know what Lari is like when he is in love and can't keep his hands of of someone. We know the same about Elias.
We know Lari is still in love with Elias and so does he and I think Kalle suspects it. Lari didn't consider Kalle until after his last discussion with Elias about his feelings for him.
I think it's brave and good of Lari and Elias both to TRY to be with other people (even though folks keep calling them liars and saying they are in denial) but those other people are inevitably going to get hurt until Elias and Lari resolve their feelings for each other one way or the other.
I suspect Miska and Kalle already know this too. I think Elias and Lari needed a break no matter what else happened and so we shall see how they make their way back to each other.
I don't think it makes any one of these guys a bad person because they are trying to move forward with their lives. Kalle is ready to date again which is great and it makes sense he would do for someone nonthreatening. Lari is new to dating so it make sense he would go for someone he trusts and respects. Elias is trying to not go backwards so it makes sense that he wants to try to be loyal to Miska. Miska is really the only person who is madly in love with the person he is with and will most like be the one most hurt when it all blows up. Bless his heart.
Love it!! After weeks of sexual tension between these two, they finally get it on!! Even when they r sitting down at the table, Lari can't stop staring at Kalle. I can understand how he feels a little awkward about the age gap though - 2 many people find big age gaps (especially if 1 is in their l8 teens) a little hard 2 get their heads round. If u want someone, go get em!!!
Did anyone else notice that Kalle was still wearing his trousers when he got out of bed
No...but somehow I have the feeling that this time it's all a bit more "dressed" due to Kalle's "less than ideal" physique. ;) Sorry, I'm mean...but I have the feeling that the actor isn't that comfortable showing his body.
check out 0.29-.0.30 Kalle had his black trousers on when he got out of bed...I was looking closely to see if Lari was wearing those famous briefs
yeah I did notice too lol
Say Yes !
After sleeping together, Lari looks happy, while Kalle looks freaked out. It's not like Lari some child that Kalle took advantage of. Lari's has had a hard life and has grown up a lot and he knew what he was doing when he slept with Kalle. I was worried about Kalle when Lari and Elias eventually get back together, but I think Kalle will be ok. It's Lari I'm worried for now, he can't seem to catch a break in the love department.
Tyyne Puustinen never förget
it's ironic how the past keep catching up on Lari i think now he will understand Elias perspective & how he felt ... too bad for kalle if he can't deiced for himself his lost not lari
I'm not so sure I am so joyful at the past keeps catching up with Lari, I think he has lost the most in all this, he doesn't need to learn anymore disappointment. He was 16 I think when he got together with Elias, most at that age are confused (I'm not talking about sexuality but what direction you take because everything starts to change). I try not to hold mistakes a 16 year old makes against them especially when they have apologized so many times, time to move on and now he has turned in to a much better person. ( I may make a special case for Elias cause the character annoys me- only joking) This is not karma it is different issues about social circles, snobbery ....it seems to not cross people's minds that lari will be more understanding of Kalle's position in the end because he lost all and knows how difficult certain situations can be when people are going to judge you and turn their back on you.
Los guionistas no saben lo qué quieren, durante 1 mes, nos venden el principio de romance entre Lari y Kalle, y cuando este finalmente se da, hacen que Kalle, se vuelva un inseguro.
Además hacen tanto escándalo, por la diferencia de edad, ni que nunca hubiera habido una pareja que se lleva varios años.
Javier Gonzalez un comentario en español de hace 2 años, al fin uno jajaja y si tienes mucha razón hacen buena pareja xD
I can't even watch this....I plan to read comments and crying....I'm going to re watch when Elias and Lari will again together....I hope they will give us Christmas present...:/
I really feel sorry for Kalle, i understand where he comes from, just like all of us have opinions for and against it, in real relationships so do people around you. They are sometimes with good intentions. Lari is insecure because he is young and thinks Kalle thinks of him as too young, where as Kalle is older and wiser and has been out of a relationship for a while, he has worked out from those around him he will cop flack for being with someone as young as Lari. I think Kalle is trying to navigate it in his own mind at the moment, he needs to tell Lari so they can face the public debate together. I would not want to be in Kalle's mind on following your heart v's justifying your choice of partner.
I also understand his thoughts on sex as well, its an emotional bond and connects you stronger to the person you care about, or suppose to. For Kalle he already cares about Lari, but he is battling his demons so much at the moment that even though he wanted to be with Lari sexually, he still cant escape his own head of other peoples opinions to really relax and enjoy the moment.....aww poor Kalle, be straight and I will give you a big hug and help you sort it out....lol
Hey, Lari. Not that I'm bitter or anything but you know who reminds me of your position right now? Elias.
Though I don't like this is going through, just the same as Elias falls to Miska & Now Lari falls to Kalle. despite all that, I still think Lari's moving on into a new relationship is good and i find the new paring very cute....
If I was Kalle, I would state simply and firmly, without raising my voice: "We will talk about this tonight." If Lari understands, the salad is paid for, the doctor has lunch. Otherwise, Kalle walks away with the salad in Lari's hand.
I would NEVER permit someone to place me in such an awkward situation in public. [edit,delete: People were in line, Lari.] Think about it. And apologize at home later. Do we blame Ilkka and Lari's late mother for this incident?
Alvin Simon I think you're exaggerating a little. Lari speaks subheading with Kalle, the bar is half empty, no one is listening. I do not think he should apologize, even if it probably will, because Kalle is his mentor. Lari asks a very important thing for him. The embarrassment of Kalle's his problem, is not derived from Lari.
in italiano
Credo che tu stia esagerando un poco. Lari parla con Kalle sottovoce, il bar è mezzo vuoto, nessuno sta ascoltandoli. Non penso che lui debba scusarsi, anche se probabilmente lo farà, perché Kalle è il suo mentore. Lari chiede una cosa molto importante per sé. L'imbarazzo di Kalle è un problema suo, non deriva da Lari.
just for the record, not all Finnish men are as "cautious" as Kalle, esp. when they are already out. 16 or 20 years age difference is not an issue, esp. in places like Helsinki.
Why is Janne being so weird around Lari? He didn't look happy about Lari and Kalle finally sleeping with each other? Is there a reason? Did I miss something?
13892 , see comment above for more details....
because he is jealous that Lari and Kalle can have sex with each other and not get each other pregnant
sabinasabina2010 Maybe he should start thinking about contraception! Tsss, Janne dug his own grave - so to speak. Not to mention that there are worse things than becoming a father. :)
teen4ever Sanni too at that, she is the one who has to give birth and become a mother. Yikes the thought of passing it off as Tale's baby, what if it gets sick and needs something from his natural father? oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive. Everytime I see Lari and Sanni together it hits home to me how much more mature Lari is to the other teens...
sabinasabina2010 Very true! (BTW: Apparently, this Marianna storyline continued and she got all crazy in the end.)
haha ok i see where this is going, so basically Lari is getting the same treatment as he gave to Elias, when he was with elias he was not comfortable with being in public, and now his date is not comfortable being with him in public
what did they do in the previous part when Lari said that he would do it again?
teen4ever
:D, thank you, of course he absolutely wants to do it again
kalle et lari c est une histoire qui ne prendra pas
en plus lari va apprendre des chose sur miska et va tout faire pour protéger elias et oui l amour continue entre elias et lari
quand lari va t il apprendre pour l argent ( l enveloppe que elias a glisser dans la boite au lettre )
Mais dans combien de temps ?
elisevi1 on va pas tarder avoir des rebondissement épisode 245 et 246
Super enfin je suis pressée. Merci beaucoup.
There is one problem in this direction ,as I suspect Elias will not believe Lari,so in my opinion it better someone else will open Elia or he will discover by himself
j ai pas dit que lari lui dit mai j ai dit quand lari va le savoir il va tout faire pour proteger elias
when Lari was with Elias it was always Elias who was the needy one. Now things are reversed and it is Lari who is the needy one. Life´s like that :/
It's funny Kalle is acting like Lari, when Lari was with Elias. Kalle say's don't tell anyone, we were together. And what's up with Janne, why was he acting so strange, He wanted Lari to be with Kalle, now Janne looks disturbed by them being together
Well either way Lari is the perfect bf now~~~~~ he was close to perfection before but now he's just perfect:P!
True, and now? How do we get this model of a bf out of fiction into reality and clone him for all of us to enjoy? ;-)
teen4ever If only it were possible!
isapostolos so not possible (but I'm the wrong person to ask as I have just had an argument with my partner, stormed upstairs, now on the computer and have tried to google how to tele-port Lari and my partner so they switch places- had no luck there!)
isapostolos Nooooooooooo...what is your address, I'm coming over to get him from you!
sabinasabina2010 I do not would let him, not even with a gun to my head! However I am in Venice.
Hurrah cute Janne has been missing too long (though hopefully he will be a bit more circumspect about blabbing all the details to others this time). Well done Lari on taking the lead, you really are out of the closet now. So what if there's a few years between you? To quote the James Taylor song "If it feels right, don't think twice". Lari is old enough to make up his own mind whereas Elias is far too whiney / suspicious these days...(.....wait for the backlash)
finally, they did it ... so let´s get over with this farce and split them up propperly because this Lari+Kalle-thing is pathetic as long as Lari is still so not over Elias ...
Kalle wanted a "xwriatikh" salad Greece... Greece everywhere! ^_^
I knew it from day one. Our Lari is a total bottom.
cool
Caras bem que vocês poderiam disponibilizar os videos com tradução em português.
Kalle I just really had a hard day..... substitute the word day with on and that would make it more accurate
like kale but love love elias, big age differences can be a problem, in life people worry too much about how things look
In my opinion, I really don't see anything that call love in Kalle's eyes or Lari's eyes, honestly, I dunno why, I watch they live together, have a date and sex, but don't feel love between them like Larias have had before, maybe I'm a big Larias fan lol, I really love the way Lari and Elias love each other than Lari and Kalle, sometimes they do sth stupid, act like a child, have a fight, mistakes but that is love, "Love is blind". I believe that if you really love so, you will do sth stupid like Elias do. So just give them back, please.
because they have not been together that long...it took Larias a while to get there remember. After they slept together Lari went back in to denial, Elias was avoiding Ida, ida was running around the school saying she was pregnant when she was anorexic, Larias ended their relationship for the sake of Ida,Tale blurted out to Lari that Elias told him he was gay, Elias and Lari had an argument on the ice and Elias hit his head...only then did they really start becoming a couple and Lari said I love you ages after for the first time after he kissed the girl at the ball..it takes time. Kalle and Lari are not even in a relationship yet, let alone talk about the look of 'love'
maybe I'm a big Larias fan :v so I have a look like that....but I do remember that before being a couple, despite Lari confused, denied feeling for Elias, his dad prevented and tried to convince him but anything he did, I can easily recognize that he was into Elias, I mean that it's nature but now, I watch and see that he choose love Kalle than he fall in love with Kalle, something like he need love Kalle than he's in love with Kalle. That's why I said like that.
April Le could be so but lets wait and see as they are not in a relationship...hence Lari's angst
sabinasabina2010 yes,maybe let's wait. I'm afraid, you know that, this is a soap and something crazy maybe can happen like many soap I watched before such as Luke and Noah lol :v. If Larias can not be back together (even though I don't like that idea and hope it never happen), I really hope that the writer will let Lari meet someone else (not Kalle, I know he is a good guy) that he will fall in love, just love like he had have for Elias, not because someone said that that guy is good for him, bla bla....I think it real than now, yes, we live in the world with 7bl people and anything can be happend, who knows lol :v
We think the Doctors is hot
lari and kalle not going to last no chemistry its like looking at wet paint
Where's Elias
Still: in denial somewhere. :)
teen4ever lol you took the words out of my mouth ;)
teen4ever I think they are all in denial. Elias is denying his feelings for Lari because Elias has a boyfriend whom he doesn't want to hurt. Lari is denying his feelings for Elias because he doesn't think there is any possibility of them being together again. Kalle is denying the fact that being with Lari is more about the fact that he feels safe with Lari and it's easy than any real attraction to more than Lari's body. Miska is denying the fact that he knows Elias is still in love with Lari and that Lari is still in love with Elias and their relationship is doomed.
All for of them are firmly holding onto denial with a vice grip, not just Elias.
teen4ever then after visit that wonderful country that is west of Denial called the past were we could all go to the nostalgia museum.
teen4ever I think someone is not getting the in joke lol
oon kattonut alusta asti
Nii mäki
Elias' Story want to ask u what language they used
Finnish? It's a Finnish soap. Or what language do you mean?
thanks
Look at Kalle's face, he REALLY wants to say, "Yes!" but he's so afraid.
What's wrong with Janne?
he just found out Sanni is pregnant and his is the dad even though she is dating Tale and he thinks he is the father and Janne is Tale's close friend and lives with him...he has other things on his mind
Jo George Thanks! That's what I thought but I wasn't sure.
Miska is cheating on Elias - it was all in a comment ages back that no one knew much about him. Guess-line: Elias has to find out at some time ..... then what? oh dear.
I promptly let each of the reviews, I think Kalle is not right do not know how to lead a relationship although either of age, after what happened with lari time ..... and will understand what I felt Elias Lari when it was together, Lari was he who carried the embers of miska I am not in agreement with this relationship,, am very disappointed if the writers knew very well what happen with Kalle.por iva things to do so .. that no taxes to be comfortable with the relationship ... there are arguments the characters are not very clear, or episodes MUST be consistent in each in history ..... hogala pass very rapiso disque realacion Kalle and lari, and i want to see Elias Lari and they go together and clarifying the episodes ..... !!!!!! and be more interesting ...... !!!!!
Ugh, I hate Kalle, he's just so boring, and so wrong, for Lari!
oh come on.. Doctor is stupid, lets ditch him and get a new bf for lari, someone at his age and physiqye.. enough drama, life should be simple
kalle, is it hard? really?? hahahha
Good to see that at the beginning of the video Leias and Lari in bed?
Again NO.
Keep the faith! :)
teen4ever We can have Faith, writers must have Charity and all of Larias fans Hope.The three Theological Virtue
Luigi C
Yes Father LOL
Luigi C Isn't it 'Faith, Hope and LOVE' (love being the greatest/most important of the three)? :) In consequence, the writers should have love for the fans - this should make sure of our hoped for endgame. :)
My poor E ! I just translated the Italian word. Sure it fits better LOVE (for the audience).
omggggg
Lary ? Seriously ? Booo !!!
i don't like kalle and lari but at least they are more passionate than miska/elias