Should I Move for Work or Stay Put
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- Опубліковано 10 лис 2023
- Thinking about moving across town or across the country? We've learned a lot about this over the years. Phil the plumber here: • What To Feed A Plumber...
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Man this advice means a lot to me. I’m a 32 year old dad without a dad of my own to tell me these things. Thank you sir and keep up the good work. Your ability to share your wisdom is appreciated by a lot of people.
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I'm in the move camp if you can find a better job. I have lived all over the USA growing my career. Which will bring retirement in a few years.
Completely relate to this, I’m also a dad and similar age, and didn’t have that fatherly advice to seek when needed. I’m currently in a situation where have an opportunity to change where my family lives to seek a new job opportunity and this video was exactly what I needed to watch for some advice.
In the 4 or 5 years I've been listening to your advice I married an amazing wife, I've become a carpenter, I've become sober, and I'm just about to finish my first quarter of college. Your wisdom comes at a great time as always. We really need some stability after all the moves we've done.
Keep up the sobriety and all the great work!
Water drip in the background is going to need some explanation!
Agreed lol
Anyone else notice the drips of water coming down behind him?
This amazing craftsman has the best narrator voice to boot!
The term, “running to stand still” comes to mind… what motivates us is what defines us. My father was absent and my mother ran from one fire to the next during my childhood. A decade ago I realized I needed to give myself the home I always wanted as a kid. I moved to a small town on the Oregon coast. I bought a neglected old craftsman house which I’ve turned into a home. At 48, I have a thriving business as a contractor, a beautiful 2 year old son and a home I just recently paid in full. I resisted the urge to flip my house and I am incredibly thankful for the life I’ve been able to build by staying the course. As the old saying goes, “slow and steady wins the race.”
This is a great testimony. "I needed to give myself the home I always wanted..." Beautiful words, full of integrity. Thanks for sharing.
Running to stand still is a great turn of phrase.
Thank you for sharing. I feel that a lot of us (around 40 years old) had neglectful upbringings, but some of us eventually recover, become reborn, and find our purpose. When reborn, fire doesn't hurt us, but it cleanses us. The best to you and your family.
Don't be too quick to move. My company did a large layoff and offered some engineers the choice of move 3 states away at company expense or take the layoff package. A large number of them moved and within a few years, the company just laid them off again. Now they are embedded there with no help to move back if they wanted too. I, on the other hand said no way and go ahead and lay me off then and I'll find another job here. Well, turns out they thought long and hard and cancelled my layoff. Bluff called. Don't forget how hard it is on your kids! The social impact on them can be life changing!
My Dad was a carpenter. We always lived in a newly built home.He brought us to the Bay Area, CA. He always worked unless it rained and you know that story.
Can we talk about the leaking roof real quick? :)
was wondering if it was just my eyes.
Contractor are often like mechanics. We build nice stuff and tolerate functional in our own lives. Lol
It’s like an old friend by now.
Yeah its a little annoying...lol
Haha!! Nicely worded. I was like I’m sure he knows by now. But just incase let me see if someone else noticed. 😂🤣
Let’s just assume it’s a condensation drip from a ceiling mounted AC unit….and not a roof leak.
Scott has now become my goto guru.
Love the vintage family pics that accompany your story. What a cute bunch of cotton-topped kids.
Real-wages, adjusted for inflation, have not risen appreciably in 55ish years. That's a fact. The same time Housing, Education, and HealthCare costs have exploded. Most Americans are now largely geographically land-locked due to SES. Mobility is not what it once was. Sadly.
Really enjoy these 'life' videos. Thanks again Scott, take care!
Scott,
I was a gypsy. I grew up, schooled & worked in Michigan. Berkeley, CA was my first 'foreign assignment'. Then I worked in SoCal. Moved my family to Indonesia, Russia and UK. Methinks my girls and I were adventurous and are all the wiser for the cultural experiences. Although we all recognize now that there were some trade-offs as well. Great video!
I have lived at the same place for all 38 years of my life. Our rural area is quickly being swallowed by the city. I have been wrestling with the idea of moving for a couple of years now. Your advice of "not moving to escape, but move if an opportunity presents itself" is a big help. Thank you
That is a great observation, the pearl of the conversation.
I'll tell you what got me to move to the other side of the world once:
1. Took a vacation to a country we loved
2. Returned home, created a LinkedIn job alert for openings in said country, just cuz
3. Thought no more of it, because there was no way they'd ever need someone like me over there
4. Alert pinged like 9 months later
5. Applied, cause why not
6. Got hired, moved, had the adventure of a lifetime (and just to be clear: you can't have an adventure without conflict, struggle, setbacks, fear, etc.) and eventually came back home
Why I'm sharing this: step 2 cost me nothing, I did it on a whim, but it was what set the whole thing in motion. You can do it (or something like it) right now, in 5 minutes. Maybe nothing will come of it, but you'll have lost 5 minutes at most.
Dad lived in 9 different houses from 1946 till he passed in 2019, I have lived in the same house for 55 years. I have prospered well due to having a stable castle to work from.
Can you elaborate? I'd love to know your insights on that. I've lived over 40 places in my life and I'm 34 and not a military child. Just a kid from poverty that could never afford to stay anywhere long enough.
@@josiahamaze if you dig a tree up every few years and move it around it will never develop a root strong enough to go deep and find water in a dry year and it will never be able to have roots wide enough to stand up in a strong storm. By paying for my castle by saving the expense of always moving I have the money to survive an economic drought should one arise and by setting strong roots in my community I can stand and even thrive during economic storms. I have the resources to visit anywhere I want to but still maintain a stable home base to work and prosper from.
@@garykidd4468 Well put makes a lot of sense. Unfortunately I didn't have much of a choice since I was a kid but I do believe if my philosophy is right (foundation) no matter where I build my castle it'll stand strong and if I operate thru my spirit everywhere I go I will bear the fruits that will get me thru the drought. At least that's how I've made it this far without spite or anger in my heart. I appreciate you taking the time to elaborate. I just bought my first house an I'm currently conflicted because I'd like to settle down here but due to unfortunate hardships I'm struggling to catch up on mortgage and bills. I don't know how to ask for help not because I don't have any but because I feel ashamed to have to ask. Maybe that's what the moving did to me that I can't understand.
Your advice is spot on!
@@garykidd4468 that is how it should be
my parents moved for better opportunities several times in my childhood and I was able to adapt and appreciate the different parts of the country I got to live in
I'm a Red Seal Carpenter on the east coast of Canada and thought about packing up and heading west many of times where I can easily double my income but then I think about what am i'm really gaining in the long run. I already own my home where I live, own my cabin, and i'm pretty much debt free here plus my senior parents are dependent on me. Sure I won't have a mansion or the newest vehicle every year but that's just material items that mean nothing in the end. I chose to stay here because time with family can't be bought back.
Canadian carpenter here also. You are lucky to own your own place and still have living parents. It seems that the other 'lucky' Canadians who will get to own a home will unfortunately be at the expense of their parent's passing.
I’m a software developer/manager and I feel exactly the same. Debt free other than my home and I will pay it off in 3 to 5 years. I live in a smaller part of Texas. Family is here, all of my relationships are here and the culture that I grew up with as well. My kids have relationships with aunts and uncles, and cousins. They would have none of that if I moved to a big city for more money.
Ontario carpenter. You can own a car here.. but a house, no. You gotta be a lawyer now 😂
The Essential Craftsmen just gave us a Mr Rodgers talk ❤
I hope many younger people listen to this mans wisdom.
He is the uncle or dad you wished you had to guide you on life's path.
I moved a few times as a kid, and have moved a lot as an adult. My late father used to say "It's always better to go than to be pushed". I did a count and I'm on my 20th home in 45 years from Pacific coast, to the Arctic coast, to the Atlantic and stops across the prairies. Definitely been an adventure!
It was hard to focus with the water leak from the roof dripping in the background. Lol. Another excellent video! Take care.
Funny how these videos find you at the right time. Canadian west coast carpenter here, cost of living and housing has become inconceivable up here as of recent. Fortunately I married a wonderful American woman some years ago and we will be moving to the midwest in due time. We are moving to escape the failed utopia that once was, as well as moving toward opportunity and adventure. We know it won't be perfect but when the difference in housing is 500k and your monthly grocery bills for two are $1300, it really is a no brainer. We are excited for the growth that comes with change and are ready to embrace the move in search of a prosperous life.
Hope you find it's what you're looking for. In all likelihood whatever percentage difference there is in cost of living is roughly the same difference in average wages.
Thanks, I agree that region plays a large part. The difference between housing, cost of living, taxes and currency exchange justify our choice to move south @@zacharybob4336
I find it so interesting that in the US your home is equity. Im irish and the family home is something that is sacred, not usually for a sale and stays in families for generations.
When I was 12, My grandfather told me people will never do without HVAC - indoor plumbing - electricity and automobiles and if I learned the skills to build/ maintain these processes, that I would have work anytime and anywhere. He was absolutely right, and he was born in 1902.
same here my father and grandfather were tradesmen and taught me the business end of many tools people always talked down to me as a journeyman carpenter I would let them go blah blah blah and after awhile I would ask some simple questions " do you live in a house , do you have a chair , do you have a table" their responses were always YES. "well you can thank someone like me A CARPENTER" and I'd have the last laugh
I moved to all parts of America over the past 40 years and set up shop easily due to my work ethic, communication skills and skill set between Professional Painter, Fix it guy, and deck/fence builder. I love people and helping solve problems. Servitude is the most rewarding!
I have the same motto because I'm a simp
Wise, sharp as a tack and obviously very knowledgeable in many fields.... anyone who knows your personality are lucky individuals.
This is a great presentation to pass on to children of a Carpenter.
These are some of my favorite videos. Scott, chatting with us, sharing his wisdom, and being a true teacher.
Drip is part of the backdrop 😅😅
That color grade is really on point. Nice and warm. Good job
We moved 7 times by the time I was in 5th grade, then again as I was graduating from high school in Arizona. My older brother and I both joined the Army, then wandered the world for a couple of years. He settled into a little condo in Phoenix, married the girl next door and raised a beautiful family, moving to a house down the street, then another a few blocks away. They've lived within a mile or so of that condo for almost 40 years now. Deep roots. Solid friendships. Stable family. I on the other hand, kept moving, changing careers, living and working from Florida to the Aleutian Islands, and numerous points between. I married and raised a family, but kept moving -- Arizona to Washington to Virginia, and back home to Arizona. I see pros and cons to both. I have loved everywhere I've lived, but know it was harder for the kids, and hard on us when they came to call distant places home. We've finally settled now in the home of our dreams, thanks to a lucky home purchase during a depressed market, and a lucky home sale during a booming market. My advice: Experience new places and new people. Stay out of debt. Sock away money when you can, and buy land when you can. They're not making any more of it.
By age 18 I'd lived 5 different places with my parents. Not far away from each other, I still went to the same schools, but it very much reflected the economy. Everything from a 4000sqft house to a 1200sqft apartment and then on again. They too had to fight the crazy interest rates of the 1980s. And so, we moved. Again.
Since then adventure has been pulling. Went 5000miles away to the PNW and back, that taught me a great deal, been around the country here with a stint to Germany. It all fell out of different circumstances, but wouldn't want to have been without very much of it. All of it has been a learning experience, though some teachings may not have materialized themselves until much later.
Have I struck it rich? Not in the material sense. But I've been fortunate enough to go places and meet people, that many probably wouldn't. I'll still call it a win and a rich life. I'm not supposed to bring anything with me from this life.
Howdy, I'm 73; born in 1951. My dad got out of the Navy after WWII, met my mother and they bought a nice GI Bill house for $7,000. I was one of 5 children. Growing up in the fabulous 50's and 60's was worth the trip. My mother never worked outside of the home and we were an All American Family. Gold was $35 an ounce. We weren't rich, but we were very blessed. My Dad was the shop teacher and the football, baseball coach at the high school. Our extended family was huge.
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Vietnam started America on the way to today's ruin.
Now, here we are.
The American Dream that we knew is now only a distant memory.
I feel sad for today's children. They will never know the joy, peace, and tranquility that I, and my siblings knew.
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Moving
I've thought about moving deeper into the South, where men are still men and the sun still shines on old Craftsmen. But I'm pretty well set where I am for what I now think of as the sunset of my life.
The Bible teaches that life is but a vapor; a passing shadow on a wall. We are here for the briefest of moments and then we are gone.
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I believe you are equal parts carpenter and preacher, and I mean that in entirely a positive way.
Your pace of thought is a literary one, not the frantic speed of today's social media. The world needs more of that.
I'm 43, irish and moving more often means going abroad. My friends have moved to Canada and England. I've weathered the down turn here an expect more to come. I understand the difficulties of up an leaving, the talk with the kids brings that choice to life. I appreciate your honest perspective and the simple and subtle way in which you share your trials and tribulations. Thank you for your story.
My friends are moving to Australia and Canada. From what I see of the older generation who went to England most ended up destitute having spent so long in England that there was nothing and no one to come back to as they started to get older. Basically if your Irish and you go abroad chances are you'll never return(move back)
My uncles went to America, Germany and England before I was born and I'm sure it was difficult. They all did well, they wanted, needed and had to. These countries are massive with more opportunities. People fall through the cracks and get swallowed up without support. Ireland is a far richer country now, albeit not in infrastructure but there are way more opportunities now. If not the world is also a smaller place now.
My grandpa was a pastor in the Garland community Church in Wyoming. We lived in the parsonage upstairs in the church. I believe you were a Carpenter who once worked on the church! Small world
This is why i love your channel, i always look towards your videos for some sort of wisdom.
Moved 6 times in 10 years… settled down in San Diego. I like it here. Thx for the advice old timer
As a person who's lived in just 3 locations within the same town, I don't envy you, because hindsight is always 20/20, I know I'm happy with the woman I love.
During my college and Military service years I lived in 13 different cities/houses/addresses over a 6 year period. If I could live my life over again I think I would skip those years. I compliment you on your delivery speed. I spend many hours daily studying a large variety of UA-cam videos and the people often speak so slowly that when I change the play-speed to 2X I perfectly understand each word and get through the videos in half the time. Take fiberglass repair of boats for example: I've watched more than a hundred so far over the past year since I realized my boat needs a stiffer deck and a new transom. Time is valuable.
SEQUOIA trees look pretty happy wear they are and ill bet they weathered a lot of up and down economies not to mention there neighbors
I got with a high end builder, some jobs go on for years. Gapping over what could be bad years. The job means a ton to me. I don't really consider myself a carpenter, more of a home builder. As i play around on the job site during all phases of the job. Which also amounts to having a huge collection of tools. lol. What matters to me, is knowing my boss sees and knows the details. He knows, i see them too. So together we can cut out a ton of those, "not my job, moments, or, well that didn't work out as planned." And what is a famous line around my parts, "We did it nice because we did it twice."
"To wrap this up, I don't know if there's any wisdom in here for you."
The wisdom can be found in the introspection.
Learn to love what you have we as American's are so consumer oriented we search to fill those voids in our lives with stuff, take a deep breath watch sunrise and appreciate what a wonderful life we have been given and always remember you will not be remembered by what you did for yourself but what you did for others!
Some good points to consider. I like the focus of fulfillment--I think that's overlooked a lot of times.
Adding the cost of moving and the transaction costs of buying and selling, or even securing a new rental, the benefits of moving must be pretty high for me these days. Being in ministry, most of my moves have been in response to to externals. My grandmother spent her whole life, save five years, in a one block radius. She had a wide social circle and a rich life.
Great video Scott. Your comments about running towards something instead of away from something is a very strong statement. You will never evade your shadow with your back towards the sun
For many reasons, during the first several years of my marriage, we moved about every nine months. The longest move was from So. Colorado to Anchorage, AK in 1981. The roads through a large part of Canada were gravel and it was wintertime. Nine days on the road for that move. But it was worth it as I've been an Alaskan every since.
Enjoy your videos and sage advice. Your statement “All grass is the same” reminded me of 1 Peter 1:24 & 25.
I am a stayer but sometimes I wished I traveled. no complaints. Good spouse good kids. I have built two houses in the same neighborhood that I have lived in for the last 56 years. good video.
Who here would buy a book by Scott? Could be chocked full of wisdom on decisions, work, building, family, faith, etc.
Perfect timing for me. I'm a contractor that wears many hats properly. I feel like it's time to leave Philadelphia and facelift my company. Thank you sir
It's alright mate you've obviously got yourself a pretty good side hustle now.
As a man with multiple garage units. I 9wn so much stuff .I'm not moving it all. But I traveled a lot when I was young.
@7:48 Very wise advice Mr. Scott; I wholly reverberate with your message today.
I was so blessed that I never had to move to support my family, I got a great job with a school district maintenance department, first working as an electrician, then switching to cabinetmaking/carpentry (same maintenance department). For 30 years I worked there and then worked a second job of building homes, additions, decks, electrical work, whatever to support my family. I always had work, thank God. This is my favorite channel. Thanks Scott for all your insight and wisdom.
Thanks, Scott! The young men of these days need a lot of shepherding. I didn’t appreciate it as a youngster, but learning to work and having a father who runs a business that has opportunities for participation, such as farming or something in the trades can give a child valuable life skills and build work ethic even if he chooses a different profession later in life.
I’ve been fortunate to stay put the past 17 years in part due to subbing for higher end custom home builders & offering my finish carpentry & cabinetry services.
I’ve been traveling 50 miles north everyday to the big city for 20 plus years now. Money and benefits are the 2 big reasons why…fortunately I’ve always had a company vehicle for most of this time…. Advantage is a cheaper cost of living 50 miles away from my work territory but a big down side is time… 8hr work day = 11hr day…I’ve missed a lot of family time but I’ve also been to provide for the family and save for a future……I’m in my 50’s now…. Kids are moving out and the last one is in college….. major bills are slowing down and still rolling in…yet stability is strong… so I’d say sacrifices can be worth the end results but you need to stay committed…… I highly suggest to guide people into working in the trades….
Thank you for all the awesome content and great video!!
Thank you scott. For such holsome thoughts are hard to come by in this modern time. I am enjoying this video on my Saturday, Contemplating my own future. 35 year old carpenter and dad to 3 year old. This discussion is very relevant.
Wise, sage advice and I needed to hear this at a critical time in my life. Thank you Scott
I understand firsthand how difficult those changes are. I love hearing your perspective on this subject of life, Scott. There are so many things that I have learned from watching your videos and not just about craftsmanship, what about being a husband, father, and grandfather. I could listen to your videos and your voice all day, sir.
This is one of your best videos.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and your wisdom:)
I love this type of video.
I have the highest respect for your honesty and dignity. Hardship and challenge and moving makes one stronger tho. Self reflection is they key.
Solid, timeless wisdom.
Your family’s’ videos are very meaningful to me. Thank you for putting them out here
Thank you, a very thoughtful vid to any profession and generation.
One thing I have come to learn more over time is that if you don't like where you live go find somewhere you do like to be. I have been stuck in a part of the country that I absolutely hate living in for many reasons mostly weather and the lack of outdoors to enjoy. And the flip side is if you really like where you live and see a money making opportunity somewhere else I say think it over. Your daily quality of life living somewhere you really enjoy being is far more important than the few dollars more you might get living somewhere you don't like being.
I moved West once. I knew that in order to achieve my 8,320 hours required apprenticeship for a journeyman plumber was not going to happen staying in a small community.
@z-bart How did it work out for you? I'm in a similar situation in rural America. High prices but low wages in accounting in the state I am in. Better opportunities compared to prices in some other areas.
I have lived in about 20 states. I'm in the move camp. No kids made it easier. I'd be happy to answer moving questions. I've done it many times.
Words of wisdom from an honest man!
Thanks for the honest advice. It's not always easy to hear!
Good wisdom! Thank you
Great video! I’m in the military so we move every few years. I moved a lot as a kid so this lifestyle fits me pretty well.
My parents moved me so many times, mostly out of desperation. I hate moving, and I love my home. I'm hoping I dont have to move my kids anywhere.
Mr. Sweetie and I always planned to move away for opportunity or novelty, but we bought a home in our childhood community and ended up staying within a mile or two of both sets of grandparents which wasn't as charming as it sounds. It was instructional, it was character building, and we did grow up. Mr. Sweetie's profession as a saw filer had many of his colleagues moving frequently. He had four different employers, all here in Douglas County. I am an RN; my skills were our side hustle, working part-time when we had an urgent need. We appreciate your ability to encourage wisdom and thoughtful growth. Make the best of what you have, be grateful and courageous in the face of all challenges and love your family, wherever you find them. That is the good life. Thanks, Scott and team.
From Los Angeles to Modesto to Roseburg to Eugene it has worked out well for me.
This is gold!
Definitely words of wisdom!
Thank you for this video! Two years ago, I made the decision to move away from my beloved hometown in pursuit of career opportunities. It was a path I hadn't foreseen, but my job aspirations were simply not available there. When opportunity came knocking, I answered the call. My wife and I are content in our new city, yet, from time to time, a wave of homesickness washes over me, and I long for the comforts of home. I often reflect on the wish that circumstances had allowed me to remain closer to my roots, but life has a way of leading us down unexpected avenues.
I think I did the best of both worlds. Became a trucker (all I wanted to do) but have always moved around the stl area. However every move around that area as a step up in every aspect.
Thank you for your videos ec.
Well done Man Great Advice
FanTASTic video! Thank you, Scott!
Good talk. Thank you EC
Thank you Scott, this helps a lot.
Such great and genuine advice thank you. I feel with that new knowledge I'm better equipped to handle the future 😊
Very good advice.
Some good insight in this video.
Well spoken. Thanks.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge and keep your videos coming please.
You are about the age of my dad, who has died. I like listening to your wisdom and experience; it reminds me of him. Thanks for all of your sharing and being a good example.
Well said sir. Thank you
Dad was a carpenter, too, but he kept the same home base. He went off to work* in other states but only in the bust years at home (~central ID). Keep up the good work. *Seattle and WY gas fields mostly. I am happy to say that I grew up in one hometown and only lived in only three homes from birth to 18. The Marines opened that number up wide ...
Scott, your wisdom and advice are spot on, as usual. My family and I have moved only 3 times so far in the 30 years of our lives together. The first was born out of pure adventure, moving from the Midwest to the Southwest. The second was moving up to accommodate our young kids, and the third was necessitated by a recession. I don’t regret any of the moves, even though the last move was definitely hard on my kids. It saved us financially. The opportunities my wife and I have had as a result, have enabled a life we never dreamed of. We have definitely had more experiences and made good friends in more places than we would have if we had stayed closer to where we grew up. You can’t learn how to fly without that first jump.
I'll tell you, sometimes you do gotta flee. When my first son was born we were still living in Oakland, and the crime (while always bad) was beginning to get completely out of hand. Gunshots right outside our house every week. We picked up and moved when the baby was just a couple of weeks old. Lost money, lot of stress, but there are just some risks you can't take when you have children.
There's wisdom in everything you say
Brilliant. Merci . 🙏
Great video Scott! I don't think I would have had the fortitude to do what you and Kelly did at such a young age. And I was so lucky to pull up the Oregon roots and move to Southern California with six other guys. It was like taking a whole pack of brothers with me🙂