@@Mr.Dayahk I've been saying it since they 1st coined it "hashtag rap" when this convo originally started. I'm 44 & can't honestly say ODB was the first to do it either, but ODB's will always be the most memorable to me.
T.I. started that beef thinking he could diss Luda, and Luda diss the fuck out of him on Bucks Stomp. Big Sean and Drake made that stupid ass video trying to clown Luda, and Luda dissed them and dropped the Video of him rapping like that when he was 15 😂😂😂😂😂
@@JanaeBosquet-Wright-ci8le Luda never dissed him to begin with, Tip saying me getting rob, that's Ludacris. Was testing to see if luda was soft. He thought luda was going to let it slide, Luda heard it and dissed the shot out of him, Tip verse got replaced by Game, and then the original came out when Tip got on the radio bitching about it. He also tried to run up on Shaka in LA, and Shaka had a organization from the area, come for him. The label had to fly out someone from Atlanta with a good name with them boys to back them down. Tip literally was stuck at LAX.
RIP Sean Price was doing that style way before any of them. Don't hate celebrate pah Kool and the Gang. Yeah they made it mainstream but that's from a Underground Legend.
Fan of all three of them and didn't know it was that serious. Their beef was dumb and showed how ego can cloud reason. Side note: they did know EVERYONE was doing that Supa Dupa Flow and fans got tired of it real quick 😂! Great video Ali!
They took the high road bcuz they know what’s up. Ludacris is lyrical af. And if T.I couldn’t touch him, what them think they can. Ludacris underrated to fans etc. but these rapper know what’s up.
Or MAYBE they took the high road cause the situations themselves were petty and not worth giving energy even if they were valid JUST saying not ALL people think on terms of good or bad some think in terms of investment vs yield only luda would win if they pressed it.. they were rising names he was a falling one they would have only reignited his wave 🌊 and they would have only lost steam weather they won or not for example drake handling meek was basically drake leaching Meeks career away in public but him vs pusha (a MUCH SMALLER AND FALLING NAME) was a loss regardless of outcome so long a pusha gave us something to talk about and Boy did he 😂
@@cleo8193 It was at one point mainly in Luda's era where lyrical beef was common. Ludacris was a master swordsman in this but as time pass rap was merging during Big Sean and Drake's time and tbh it would have hurt their career but not bc Ludacris had a "wave" but it would have killed their career bc lyrically he would have destroyed them. They shy away from Kendrick who had the "old school" mentality but was in Drake and Sean's era. Ludacris was a high level boss on a video game and they were just starting. Luda surpass rap into movies businesses etc. You can say he is a "Down South" Jay Z. Boxers do this all the time. They wasn't ready and they knew it so the best approach is to show respect and apologize b4 it got worse. Btw Pusha was in Ludacris era too and bodied Drake. Meek was in Drakes era and Drake bodied him.
Wow how random that this video popped up on my feed. You are speaking facts I can relate so much to the Empathetic Style video its my most viewed video about me quitting my career due to mental health. I had to prepare myself for the negative comments even though the positive outweigh the bad comments. THANKS for putting out relatable comments and giving us helpful tips.❤❤
You may have forgotten to include when Ludacris released a video of him as a kid rapping while doing the flow proving no one really “invented” that flow. T.I. & Ludacris beef stemmed from T.I. feeling offended by a guy getting stomped out while wearing a “Trap Where?” shirt in i-20’s Video. Also, after the altercation in 2007 between T.I. & Chaka, T.I. went on to say “That apology was for B.E.T not D.T.P” on the Remix to Rocko’s “Umma Do Me” before the beef was eventually squashed.
Drake was hating on Luda because he smashed one of his chicks. He actually mentioned it one time. Luda lyrically is better than everybody he was beefing with but I do hold him and TIP on the same level because those PSC mixtapes were fire back then and down with the king.
This beef was mid . I do remember hearing “My Chick Bad” back in the day and saying the flow on that line was too much like Drake’s flow , but had no idea Sean came up with it. I’m a fan of all 3
@@DJGary0910 nice try, but They were on at least two songs together before Hip Hop is Dead and a track after. There has NEVER been any beef between those two Virgos
Big Sean was not the first to rap like that or popularize it at all...sooo many people were rhyming like that in early 2k ESPECIALLY in the BR leagues and in UK scene. I'd say if anything he got the flow from watching BR, lol.
You completely left out the whole 1.21 Gigawatts mixtape Luda released that not only had Big Bada Boom with a skit before that song going back to 1991 where rappers used that same flow PLUS a verse from Luda using it at 12! BUT there was a dis on that same mixtape called “Say it To my Face” with Meek Mill that bodied they ass.
I love Luna as a bear. And I was just talking that I never hear about Luther being at any beef but I guess here it is. I never really hear him on peoples top list of rappers, but I love him.
1:12 Now I love me some Big Sean but c'mon now. Luda has NEVER had to copy ANYONE. I've a fan of Ludacris the moment i heard him my freshman year of highschool. He been that n*gga. 🙌🏽 Edit: Nicki was doing that same flow too and definitely made it more popular than Drake and/or Big Sean.
Ludacris Dtp label was huge in the south..signed 2 Chainz and Chingy...but the thing is he didn't much for them..even Chingy and 2 Chainz said that a bunch of interview..Luda had the vision like Jay Z With Roc Nation,but proving to the south ur the king,Not T.I, acting a fool on videos kinda made him not to be taken seriously.like old heads want the respect and demands it ..and feel salty if they don't get it.Luda singed Shareefa but he wasn't a record executive or having the attributes to build an artist.
In the South? We were banging the shit out of DTE albums in Detroit when they were going strong. Ludacris, Playaz Circle, Shawna, all of it. I think the only rapper from DTP a lot of us didn't see as legit was Chingy.
It was no 2 chainz it was titi boi and was t nobody down south listening to that shit but college students and squares . Tip is what everybody was on from 03 until Jeezy started busting them mixtapes out . I don’t know where you was in the South but I am here in Atlanta.
Don't mess with my Crush Luda. ❤❤❤❤❤. I'm not sorry, bt Ludacris been my whole Entire Childhood since the early 2000s. I'm tired of drake! And I wasn't much of big sean fan. I like some of his songs, but not too many.
0:18 Ludacris and Nas never had beef. After Nas titled his album Hip Hop is Dead, Ludacris had public complaints that Nas's claim dismisses the recent surge in Southern Hip-Hop and when Ludacris preformed at the BET Hip-Hop Awards in November 2006, he wore a shirt that said "Hip Hop Ain't Dead...It Lives In The South" but they never had beef or any real problems
Back in his prime I thought Luda was top ten. But eventually I stopped listening to him. Recently I went on Apple Music to download some of older songs just to have in the mix & as I listened to music that I used to enjoy i thought “wtf is this goofy shit?!?”
I finally see why 50 and Yayo don't f*ck with Buck... he's a snake he got the TI verse and instead of telling Ti to redo his verse or just don't use the verse.... he give it to Luda....then he eventually took TI off the song anyways .... dude has always been a snake 🐍
That beef was so quiet, this my first time hearing about it, 😆 🤣
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Exactly I had no idea
It was on Luda's mixtape a plus ago
Right 😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂
Luda dismantled Tip on that Buck track. He had to throw punches after that shit cause he wasn't out rappin Luda.
There is a difference between being the innovator of something & taking something that's already been done & popularizing it.
ODB did that style on Shimmy Shimmy Ya. "For any emcee in any 52 states/ I get psycho killaaaa, Norman Bates"
He did didn't. I just listened to this song earlier.
💯 Heard his voice reading your comment 🏌️♂️⛳
Finally somebody said it
@@Mr.Dayahk I've been saying it since they 1st coined it "hashtag rap" when this convo originally started. I'm 44 & can't honestly say ODB was the first to do it either, but ODB's will always be the most memorable to me.
Facts ODB did it B4 Burt and Ernie aka Big Shawn n Drake
T.I. started that beef thinking he could diss Luda, and Luda diss the fuck out of him on Bucks Stomp. Big Sean and Drake made that stupid ass video trying to clown Luda, and Luda dissed them and dropped the Video of him rapping like that when he was 15 😂😂😂😂😂
He also dissed ti on the song war with god on his album relapse theorpy
Tip verse was a response
@@JanaeBosquet-Wright-ci8le Luda never dissed him to begin with, Tip saying me getting rob, that's Ludacris. Was testing to see if luda was soft. He thought luda was going to let it slide, Luda heard it and dissed the shot out of him, Tip verse got replaced by Game, and then the original came out when Tip got on the radio bitching about it. He also tried to run up on Shaka in LA, and Shaka had a organization from the area, come for him. The label had to fly out someone from Atlanta with a good name with them boys to back them down. Tip literally was stuck at LAX.
I still play Stomp and I must say, Luda’s verse killed it
Ludacris & Lil Wayne made that flow mainstream
RIP Sean Price was doing that style way before any of them. Don't hate celebrate pah Kool and the Gang.
Yeah they made it mainstream but that's from a Underground Legend.
@@RazorRegshow me a song from Sean p doing that flow
@@chewyyo3383go do your own research. You’ll be better from that.
Ludacris is in a class by himself, you know Luda voice anywhere he’s versatile he’s surgeon wit his shit
Luda is just a Redman clone
@@354alldayhell naw, Luda is definitely unique
@@MrYoungzay Guess you don't who Redman is? The comedy in his flow, afro and visuals in his videos. He's a baby Redman.
@@354alldaydoesn’t make him a red man clone 💀💀💀 big reach especially when the both of them are cool
@@SKeTcH-DeSIgNN I know they're cool what does that have to do wit it? Redman Jordan Ludacris is Kobe
Fan of all three of them and didn't know it was that serious. Their beef was dumb and showed how ego can cloud reason. Side note: they did know EVERYONE was doing that Supa Dupa Flow and fans got tired of it real quick 😂! Great video Ali!
They took the high road bcuz they know what’s up. Ludacris is lyrical af. And if T.I couldn’t touch him, what them think they can. Ludacris underrated to fans etc. but these rapper know what’s up.
He’s not underrated to fans. The industry try to not mention his name that’s all. Us as fans know who Luda is and can do on a track
Or MAYBE they took the high road cause the situations themselves were petty and not worth giving energy even if they were valid JUST saying not ALL people think on terms of good or bad some think in terms of investment vs yield only luda would win if they pressed it.. they were rising names he was a falling one they would have only reignited his wave 🌊 and they would have only lost steam weather they won or not for example drake handling meek was basically drake leaching Meeks career away in public but him vs pusha (a MUCH SMALLER AND FALLING NAME) was a loss regardless of outcome so long a pusha gave us something to talk about and Boy did he 😂
@@cleo8193 It was at one point mainly in Luda's era where lyrical beef was common. Ludacris was a master swordsman in this but as time pass rap was merging during Big Sean and Drake's time and tbh it would have hurt their career but not bc Ludacris had a "wave" but it would have killed their career bc lyrically he would have destroyed them. They shy away from Kendrick who had the "old school" mentality but was in Drake and Sean's era. Ludacris was a high level boss on a video game and they were just starting. Luda surpass rap into movies businesses etc. You can say he is a "Down South" Jay Z. Boxers do this all the time. They wasn't ready and they knew it so the best approach is to show respect and apologize b4 it got worse. Btw Pusha was in Ludacris era too and bodied Drake. Meek was in Drakes era and Drake bodied him.
Luda is definitely slept on
Lmao man please
Kinda crazy how simply removing "like a" from a metaphor/punchline setup really became a huge deal lol
You know metaphors don't use like or as right?🤔
@@pbshort37 always that one. You know what I mean
I used to hate that flow in the early 2010's. Done right it was ok tho
@@pbshort37not the point bruh 🤦🏽♂️
Great observation fam 💪🏽💪🏽💯💯
Luda been using that flow forever. Big Sean didn’t come up with that. People need to brush up on their hip hop history💀💀
Keep up the great work! 🎉 i didn't even know there was a beef
That say it to my face by Luda was directed towards someone
Lil Sean did not create that flow he mastered it big difference
Dont matter big sean is one of the greatest rappers.
@@treezy8385 to you
Rappers been doing that style
This is petty but, hilarious at the same time. 😂😂😂
I knew about Drake and TI but had no clue Big Sean was in that mix too.
I thought it was called hashtag rap. Yeah 2009-2010 that flow was used a lot 😂
Yeaa that's how I remember it too. I had almost forgot, Alzheimer's 😆 sorry couldn't help it
@@Betoven81 bars 🔥🔥🔥
Luda crushed all them niggas and had then apologizing. Lol
Wow how random that this video popped up on my feed. You are speaking facts I can relate so much to the Empathetic Style video its my most viewed video about me quitting my career due to mental health. I had to prepare myself for the negative comments even though the positive outweigh the bad comments. THANKS for putting out relatable comments and giving us helpful tips.❤❤
You may have forgotten to include when Ludacris released a video of him as a kid rapping while doing the flow proving no one really “invented” that flow.
T.I. & Ludacris beef stemmed from T.I. feeling offended by a guy getting stomped out while wearing a “Trap Where?” shirt in i-20’s Video.
Also, after the altercation in 2007 between T.I. & Chaka, T.I. went on to say “That apology was for B.E.T not D.T.P” on the Remix to Rocko’s “Umma Do Me” before the beef was eventually squashed.
What was the Nas issue?
@@loucypherdamorningstar When Nas declared Hip-Hop was dead. Luda wore a shirt that said “Hip-Hop didn’t die, it lives in the south”
Say what you will about Luda... but he is very underrated and he definitely rides his own wave🫡
Drake was hating on Luda because he smashed one of his chicks. He actually mentioned it one time. Luda lyrically is better than everybody he was beefing with but I do hold him and TIP on the same level because those PSC mixtapes were fire back then and down with the king.
Luda will wash drake and big Sean combined
Yes he sure will.
He certainly would😂 and he came out b4 them
"Move Bitch" alone shits on their respective careers 😂
exact
Yall must be some super Ludacris fans.
They don’t want it with Luda 🔥😂
This beef was mid . I do remember hearing “My Chick Bad” back in the day and saying the flow on that line was too much like Drake’s flow , but had no idea Sean came up with it. I’m a fan of all 3
With all due respect, PM DAWN created that flow literally.. on "Set Adrift" He said, now I'm all alone...... SOLITAIRE. This was like 1991
Yep
Pin it
Actual Factual 💯
Big Facts
Fucking THANK YOU for posting this!
Choose 1: Luda’s “My Chick Bad” verse or Jay-Z’s “Monster” verse. 😂
Jays Monster verse was caca. He just naming monsters lol
@@Betoven81weakest verse on the song imo lol
He really is that character from hustle and flow. Grimey, skinny dude
Ludacris beefing with big Sean was a bit goofy. The drake problems don’t surprise me nor sound unrealisty
💥Sounds like a good ol case of Narcissistic Triangulation‼️
Luda was def influenced but if I remember people were doing that before Sean but Sean was the only person at the time doing it and everyone followed
Luda used that flow at 15 years old and even had evidence of it on Bada Boom
@@acecashman1237 that’s why I said at the time period I’m not gonna say Sean started it at all cuz nothing is original anymore
😂😂Luda the OG here your hilarious
@@magicvampirelver1321 OGs don’t get inspired ??
@@kingtvt973 they should 😒smh
He sed "Plus yo BEEF ain't legit"
Naw HTown been using that flow since the 90s
Htown 🤣🤣🤣
Lol luda been had that flow
Exactly. He’s the pioneer of that flow . He’s been rapping like that since he came out
Right this young generation tho😂😂 don't know nothing
@magicvampirelver1321 they saying shit that don't make sense lol disrespectful kids
Bring me the receipt of Luda and Nas beefing. I've been a fan of both and never heard a bar of them dissing . 🤔🧐
Probably around Hip Hop Is Dead I would imagine
@@DJGary0910 nice try, but They were on at least two songs together before Hip Hop is Dead and a track after. There has NEVER been any beef between those two Virgos
@@pbshort37 don't mind this Virgo just be analytical on possibilities 9/10
@@DJGary0910 it's just dialogue, brother. ✊🏿
I always thought Ludacris has the same personality as skinny black
Never new there was a thing between them 😂
E-40 Was Rappin Like That In 1997 On Mystikal Album Unpredictable "Here We Go"
PM Dawn used the same flow in the '90s
this is fact actually but these uncultured mfs dont even know who that is
Big Sean was not the first to rap like that or popularize it at all...sooo many people were rhyming like that in early 2k ESPECIALLY in the BR leagues and in UK scene. I'd say if anything he got the flow from watching BR, lol.
Big Sean stating he created something that came from his city is… hilarious. But this entire beef is hilarious
Burned "Bridges" huh? Coincidence Ali?
The supa dupa flow was done by Raekwon from the Wu, first...
You completely left out the whole 1.21 Gigawatts mixtape Luda released that not only had Big Bada Boom with a skit before that song going back to 1991 where rappers used that same flow PLUS a verse from Luda using it at 12! BUT there was a dis on that same mixtape called “Say it To my Face” with Meek Mill that bodied they ass.
I forgot about stomped wow how time flies 😢
Wasn’t aware of any of this 😂
I love Luna as a bear. And I was just talking that I never hear about Luther being at any beef but I guess here it is. I never really hear him on peoples top list of rappers, but I love him.
Rappers having beef. Thats a headline. Smh
I use to hate That flow. “so I’m on the grind, skateboard” “ I filler up, balloons!” Lmao terrible
1:12 Now I love me some Big Sean but c'mon now. Luda has NEVER had to copy ANYONE. I've a fan of Ludacris the moment i heard him my freshman year of highschool. He been that n*gga. 🙌🏽
Edit: Nicki was doing that same flow too and definitely made it more popular than Drake and/or Big Sean.
He did take a snoop dog line once towards the beginning of his career
Damn I never knew this 😄
All they did was take out (like a) before the punchline.
Exactly...with they goofy ass
I love Luda but beefing over a flow Big Sean and Drake should know better
Which one should know better?
@@BooHefner both Big Sean and Drake
Exactly they should be respecting him cuz he the OG here he came out b4 them
Drake is LL Cool J 2.0 and has nerve to call someone out about biting flows
Considering it was one of the wackest styles in rap history, no one should take credit for it!
It was trash..waste management
@@354allday😂😂😂😂😂😂
Big Sean A Real One.
Ludacris Dtp label was huge in the south..signed 2 Chainz and Chingy...but the thing is he didn't much for them..even Chingy and 2 Chainz said that a bunch of interview..Luda had the vision like Jay Z With Roc Nation,but proving to the south ur the king,Not T.I, acting a fool on videos kinda made him not to be taken seriously.like old heads want the respect and demands it ..and feel salty if they don't get it.Luda singed Shareefa but he wasn't a record executive or having the attributes to build an artist.
In the South? We were banging the shit out of DTE albums in Detroit when they were going strong. Ludacris, Playaz Circle, Shawna, all of it. I think the only rapper from DTP a lot of us didn't see as legit was Chingy.
It was no 2 chainz it was titi boi and was t nobody down south listening to that shit but college students and squares . Tip is what everybody was on from 03 until Jeezy started busting them mixtapes out . I don’t know where you was in the South but I am here in Atlanta.
Don't mess with my Crush Luda. ❤❤❤❤❤. I'm not sorry, bt Ludacris been my whole Entire Childhood since the early 2000s. I'm tired of drake! And I wasn't much of big sean fan. I like some of his songs, but not too many.
Sounds like the flow battle rapper Tsunami Surf calls AMG mode 🤔🤔🤔
diggy simmons vs j. cole
Finally they giving Sean his flowers because hes the architect
DID I HEAR BIG SEAN SAY LINE AFTER LINE AFTER LINE, BARCODE?? ROFL Imma have to rewind lol...
That Barry Bonds song came out 2 years before Drake's forever Track
Basically taking the word “ like “ out of the metaphor/ simile
0:18 Ludacris and Nas never had beef. After Nas titled his album Hip Hop is Dead, Ludacris had public complaints that Nas's claim dismisses the recent surge in Southern Hip-Hop and when Ludacris preformed at the BET Hip-Hop Awards in November 2006, he wore a shirt that said "Hip Hop Ain't Dead...It Lives In The South" but they never had beef or any real problems
Back in his prime I thought Luda was top ten.
But eventually I stopped listening to him.
Recently I went on Apple Music to download some of older songs just to have in the mix & as I listened to music that I used to enjoy i thought “wtf is this goofy shit?!?”
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Tht supa dupa was like some chamillinaire shi.. back n the day big Sean and Mike posner use to do the same flow
Luda and Drake are worth over 100mil now
So??
Luda better
Big Sean didnt make up no Flow 😎😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
My bad This was on point just the title was questionable i guess its a play on Luda's real name
Beef with Mac Dre 🤔??. Never heard of it but as a Northern California resident I am very intrigued about that one..
Yow Ali!!!
Big Sean said Luda jacked his flow........😂😂😂 he couldn't be forreal.
It's funny because me and my friend were speaking on how under-rated he is but also how much smoke he had with mfs 😂
Luda don't need nun of them he a bigger start than all of them world wide
Plot twist. Lil Wayne made up that flow. People forget.
Been looking for this comment lol BIG Factuals
Sean P (RIP) beeeeeeeeeen doing THAT! 😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣 bro i didnt even know until aug 2, 2023 330 pm 😅😅😅 imma leave this here
Them fools backpedaling 😂
What the hell???
I love ALL of these rappers.
This what y'all call beef 🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️ lord have mercy
Battle rapper been doin that so who really made it up😮
Christopher "Ludacris" Bridges. How ironic with the title of the video 😂😂
Wayne made that flow.
All of these years later and this the first time I heard about this 🤣 this beef wasn’t as serious as the “stomp” beef
Wasn’t Barry bonds out like 3 years before big Sean ever did that song?
Luda was doin that flo before both
Well.. his last name really is "Bridges" so.. 😂
I finally see why 50 and Yayo don't f*ck with Buck... he's a snake he got the TI verse and instead of telling Ti to redo his verse or just don't use the verse.... he give it to Luda....then he eventually took TI off the song anyways .... dude has always been a snake 🐍
Me gettin beat down that's Ludacris!! Luda heard that and shitted on ti lol basically I'm sayin ti started the shit 🤷🏾♂️🤣🤣🤣🤣
Biggie did it …..
How Chris burned Bridges
When did Nas and Luda had beef?! I never been a fan of the Supa Dupa Flow. But Drake and Sean can't go a round with Luda.
Ngl drake can though, drake had more classics then Big Sean, im just not finna ds off of old school rappers.
So Ludacris really did sneak diss Mac Dre smh
Which song
@@Betoven81he skit in the video “get back” you can see it in 13:20
I never heard a big sean song 😮
Stealing from Missy with the supa dupa
title
Luda killed all them beefs
Everybody thinks they invented the rap game or rap flow
They young and foolish
LoL. They are not on Luda’s Level. Facts
Lmao LUDA IS A LEGEND. Bruh he doing movies. You think he cares about Big sean ? Drake apologized.
That's not the first time Ludacris you use that type of flow