On an evaluation, Burke said when he was told his sister was dead, he asked ‘where did they find the body’? Unusual response from a child, referring to his sister as a body and curious as to where she was found.
@@dennistrull1475 and he wasn't afraid to stay in the house where an INTRUDER came in and killed his sister. The GJ wanted to indict John and Patsy for aiding and abetting! Who did they aid and abet? In Dr Phil interview Burke described his dead sister at the xmas show as FLAUNTING. This is 25 years later.
@@ecalose6785I can understand why he wasn't afraid to stay in the house (if that's accurate). He was only 10, and the place a little kid feels safest is with their parents.
I agree. That's why they shipped him off. Why police let him leave, is crazy. Too many people wandering around the house sounds like p and j were trying to muddy the investigation waters.
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I love how people like the Ramseys, McCanns, and Amanda Knox vacillate between carefully observed details - like in their books - and utter vague nonsense. 🤷♂️
Yes it was obviously some sort of accident. These things happen unfortunately but why they didn’t just call 9-1-1 and get help is the mystery. Probably fear that Burke would be taken away or they’d be accused but if it was an accident, neither would have happened. Sad.
There was no reason for them not to call 911 for an injured daughter. They certainly couldn't have thought it would be easier to get out of a murder charge than a charge related to an accidental injury to JB. Burke, at the age of 9, could not be held liable in Colorado if he was the one that hit JB in the head. It makes no sense at all to me to concoct and create a story with far more serious legal implications, instead of just covering up an accident. It's far easier to say it was an accident and deal with that, than to strangle JB and make up a ransom note and a big story about a kidnapping.
Burke lied on Dr Phil, he didn’t get a bike for Christmas.in The Death of Innocence it says that they bought a bike for Burke but were saving it for his birthday . I think Burke was upset about not getting a new bike for Xmas and that’s why there were presents with torn wrapping paper in the basement. Burke was on a rampage that night!
Especially after a busy few days, and a long Christmas day with the party in the evening. Patsy looked exhausted in the early morning photo with Jonbenet. Its like with the McCanns, giving different scenarios and accounts immediately creates doubt of what was actually true. Just feel its really important to remember the strangling happened prior to the severe head injury.Poor little girl struggled against the cord, pulling and scratching her neck with her own skin tissue found under her fingernails. It just sets a different perspective on it.
@Sandy. The strangling with the cord came first, would Burke do that? Where are the real signs he was violent towards Jonbenet? The only incident is the golf club, which was proved a complete accident by others present.
Where's the proof he was gentle with her? It's said he covered her chocolate gift in poo. Just because there was only one significant injury doesn't mean that there was no animosity. What young brothers and sisters get on brilliantly without rivalry??
@@sherryaleshire9187 something is,wrong with the little boy and still wrong as an Adult. Everyone it seemed aT the time said the little boy couldn't have killed his sister, but some children, are capable
@@MikeMoses-c5e idk. Could burke have actually fashioned something to choke her out with? Im not sure he could at that age. And so if it was with bear hands that he did it, they could have determined that. There'd be finger nail impressions. And Jon Benet would have instinctively tried to dig her fingernails into him to make him stop. So if the garrote was for sure the cause of death, little Burke couldn't have done all this. And you could toss a garrote around her neck to cover it up, but you'd never be able to undo the forensics of doing it with bare hands or something else.
Well there were the two marks caused by the electrical train tracks. Is it possible he zapped her as a prank, and she became unconscious, so he garrotted her after that as he thought she was already dead and wanted it to look like an intruder? I'm thinking aloud here lol. That would explain why she couldn't fight back.
@@joycedoyle8251 she didnt say we are mad at you. John said we are not talking to you. Patsy supposedly said Help me Jess, what did you do. Dont make things up.
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If you tell the truth you never have to remember what you said before. The truth will never change whereas lies will always change as the liar won’t remember exactly what they said before. It’ll change or be altered everytime. I have zero time for people who lie. This little beautiful girl JB deserves justice. Even after so many years the truth & justice must be served. May JB rest in heavenly peace. 🕊️ 💓 Thanks for staying on the JB case Nick. You truly cover it the best. Good points & well researched.
We have friends & the husband was a policeman & had conversations w/officers in the Boulder force. The evidence was disturbed in some manner so that they were unable to charge who they knew did the crime. The friend was firm when he said, “it was the father” 🤷♀️
@william. I believe he was involved, but not directly. I don't know when but Patsy and Burke knew. Burke protects his parents, not them, him. I still don't understand about the ransom note. I can't believe how they could go on compose and write all that knowing what had just happened to their little girl. I don't know if John didn't even find out what had gone so wrong until the following morning. But he has not been truthful in his accounts, or Patsy.
Thanks Nick keep searching. You are a magnificent journalist and writer, and you have the intellectual ability to find what really happened. As forensic technology is getting better all the time, enabling a selfless, curious professional like yourself to get some justice for JBR. Cheers, DeborahD, always listening ❤
It was just to strange that Burt would stay in bed knowing that someone had taken his little sister. I think most all others brothers would be up asking questions about their sister. I will always believe he knows what happened to her.
John Ramsey doesn’t seem like the kind of dad to be all “oh, shucks, if you won’t go to bed, I’ll just have to assist you to disobey me by helping you put the model together “. To me, he seems more like the type to not put up with that. And that’s not a criticism. If you tell a kid to go to bed, they should go to bed. The kid wasn’t 3 years old or anything.
The dads in my family would have made an exception to bedtime because it was Christmas time. I can easily imagine any dad bending the rules at that time of year.
But Burke didn’t get a bike. It was saved for his birthday. So the second bike he saw when he peeked around the corner on Christmas Eve was for Patsy. I can only imagine the disappointment
@loueynewzea His birthday was going to be in January 1997, I believe. Still, it was an error not to give the bicycle to him for Christmas. With Patsy also getting a bike, he must have felt very left out. I felt very sorry for him.
@nancy. I'm not sure about the bike. What he really had wanted was the Nintendo, which he received. That was top of the list for many boys at that time.
@@nancy2anneThey were very rich...$$$ thee kid got everything he wanted.. he just seems very creepy to me that doesn't mean he did it... But someone in that house killed her... And she needs Justice....
The kid just got an N64 for Christmas.😮 He was obsessed with Nintendo. He had a bike already. Burke even admits he fights with JB over Nintendo. Her friends share similar stories of how JB and she could trigger Burke over Nintendo. 3D Mario for the first time and you think he's building models or wishing for a bike? He took the N64 to the dinner party and would have been carrying back indoors with him that evening right next to the TV room and Den. The two things that are never discussed by any Ramseys is the Den where the Big TV is and Burkes N64. This is not jealousy over what Burke didn't get. It's what he did get and his pineapple sticky fingers sister wanted to play with...
Several things don't make sense: 1. There was no sign of forced entry. 2. The "ransom note" was written on a legal pad that came from the Ramsey house. So, the intruder somehow gains entry into the house, then spends time (and noise) rummaging through drawers and cabinets until he finds pen and paper? 3. The "ransom note" was 2.5 pages long. So, the intruder is going to sit at the kitchen table and spend a good 30 minutes or so writing out this long note? 4. Burke slept through all the commotion the next morning. First, I find that very hard to believe. Second, he is a ten year old kid who just got a bunch of presents the day before. He would be down those stairs at dawn playing with all his new toys. 5. There are four people in that house and no one heard the intruder walking up the stairs? Jonbenet didn't scream? 6. The murder weapon was a garotte made from a paint brush and rope from inside the house. So the intruder is apparently going to take the time searching for a paint brush and rope, spend the time tying the knots, and use THAT (of all things) to kill someone? 7. If, as the note professes, you are trying to get a ransom payout from the Ramseys, why leave Jonbenet's dead body in the house? If you leave her dead body inside the house (which they obviously did), why leave a note demanding money? 8. Patsy was wearing the same clothes the morning of December 26th that she was wearing the night before at their friend's Christmas dinner. Patsy Ramsey, the former beauty queen, and so concerned about image, is going to wake up and put on the same FORMAL clothes she was wearing the night before? No way. She was still wearing the same clothes because she was up all night staging a crime scene. If you ask yourself all of these questions, I think you will have a hard time convincing anyone that the boogeyman did it. I think either Patsy or Burke did it, not John. I'm not saying a murder was committed. Perhaps it was a slip and fall or a push comes to shove, which led to an accident, but a family member was responsible.
AND from Ken Mains, the writer of the nite put the pen used BACK in the jar. Thats habit. I have to give credit to Ken Mains there, really good observance. Kens channel is Unsolved No More. I thought this was a fine example of detective work!
@ecalose6785 I mean that makes it sound very rushed like they had to think of a plan overnight. If you had planned it you'd buy a pen and paper. Although god knows maybe they just enjoyed the process of making it so obvious. Why are these people not in prison?
@@serendipidus8482 Theres no proof that either one did it. Wheres the proof? Its very hard to listen to them because we know theyre lying. I think they're in full protection mode!
Honestly I think Burkes’ got a touch of the old ‘tism so it’s not at all surprising that A. He had sleeping thru the night “issues” and B. That his parents knew about this and are bs-ing to cover it up
That house is an absolute mess! Every single room looks like stuff just gets thrown around, on the floor, cabinet doors open, toiletries left out on the counter.......and they had 2 housekeepers? I cleaned houses for 20 years. I would've lost my job on the first day!
It's safe to say there was none of that anti gender stereotype in Patsy's house. Burke's room - little junior executive style mid ranking sales manager in a hotel chain, Jon Benet's room - life sized dolls, swags and flounces & frills.
Fairly obvious he hated his sister and all the attention she got. He was molesting her and they knew about it. Add two narcissists trying to protect their “perfect” image.
None of their story makes sense . You would call the police immediately. There could have been someone in the house still. It makes no sense!!! No one broke in.
@@nottthereyet4872 Them having an open house around the holidays, and delivering Christmas gifts to their friends has NOTHING to do with the murder of JonBenet. I think John is a creep who knows EXACTLY what happened to his daughter, and is not being truthful about what he knows. It's just my opinion. Just like you think that since they appeard as upstanding citizens who were generous, would vindicate them. So yes, I think John is very slimy.
@@nottthereyet4872 They skipped town and did no police interviews and went on Oprah, even their friends were disgusted with them for that. Shame on them.
@RawOlympia Boulder had tunnel vision, and they rightfully lawyered up. The entire family was under immediate public scrutiny from Day 1. They certainly could not stay in that house with the press hounding them daily. And who would want to stay there after JonBenet's murder? Photos and speculation were headlined on every Cable TV news station, plastered over every front page in every newsstand, and every grocery checkout line in America. Incidentally, who do you think was the one who told JonBenet she would receive a "secret visit from Santa after Christmas?" That information came from a neutral party. Not from the Ramseys.
It’s weird how people want to blame her brother and ignore her sick parents. Even if he was FORCED to participate in any sick acts he was the child they were the adults. Patsy was acting like she was under the influence of something in the interview
@@erikamichels103 Yes me as well and I truly believe it was her mother. It’s got to be the reason she was served that cancer and is now gone. Guilt didn’t eat her up, the cancer did. She never responded in an appropriate manner. its all weird because to be this stage mom who pranced her daughter around in these pageants and pretended to care for her ended up proving she didnt give 2 sh*ts about her
@@rosier5428 You cannot prove he did that and if he did why would her parents go through the measures they apparently did to hide an accident? Why would her brother have to go down in the basement to do this?? How do you think he got her down there? Why didn’t he just do it upstairs in his room or hers
@@Anne.411 Yes, Patsy has and always will be the one I suspect killed her. No reason to cover up an accidental injury if it was Burke, plenty of reasons if it was at the hands of an adult. I toyed around with the idea of John but couldn’t get that to gel with the evidence.
What sort of kidnapper writes a 3 page ransom note while there in side the Ramsey home .where they not in a hurry. Posh bastards that got away with murder. R.I.P Jonbenet❤❤❤
I think Burke hit JB with the flashlight after they had some sort of argument but it wouldn't have been enough on it's own to kill her so I think John finished her off with the garrot, I think John had to make sure she was dead because if they took her to the hospital with the head wound the doctors may have seen the signs of sexual abuse during their check up and questioned everything else, I think Patsy colluded with the cover up by writing the note and all the stuff afterwards.
But it's far easier to get out of an accident. Why create a far more complex situation where you would be facing a murder charge? And how the heck can you strangle your own unconscious daughter over just lying your way through an accident story? Makes no sense at all to me. Just call 911 and be ready with your accidental hit on the head story. If you want to protect Burke, you can leave him out of the story. Except you don't need to protect Burke because at 9, he's not legally responsible even if he deliberately hit her on the head.
@@bills6093 Because of the sexual abuse, they would have 100% clocked it in a postmortem so not making this whole predator cover up would lead them to the people who most likely caused or allowed JB to be abused in that way - the parents. The sexual abuse is what they were covering up, not the accident/murder. I imagine there were more people involved in the abuse so letting that get out would ruin a lot of people.
Good one...U read my mind!!! Also.....her bedwetting was a sure sign of abuse!!!! All their money.....let them get away with Murder!!! Think they were Swingers2!!!😥
@@ecalose6785 I really don't think an 8 year old would know what a garrot is or how it worked. I also don't think an 8 year old would be able to carry a dead weight from one end of the house to the other (there were no drag marks on her body meaning she was carried and even if there were drag marks I don't think he'd be able to drag her all the way to the basement by himself) I think he caused the initial accident by hitting her on the head and then the parents killed her and covered it up to hide the sexual abuse.
JonBenet's matress was covered in dried urine, and that mattress in the photo must have smelled terrible throughout the floor of the house. That is disgusting, and the mattress should have been thrown out months before this. You can see how it's stained.
The N64 needs assembling, of a sort. It must be connected to a TV. The only TV on the main floor (1st floor) is in the Den (aka the study). The images of this room are the most limited in the public photos. There is sometimes listed in blueprints that there is a bookcase on the wall where the TV should be. This room is directly off the garage. The evening of the 25th, Burke took the N64 to the Dinner party. He would have been carrying it in from the garage with him when the Ramseys returned home, and may have wanted to reconnect the console to the big TV. I've used flashlights to see the RCA connections on big TVs. I wouldn't doubt Burke held it for John so they could finish "assembling" the N64 on to the Big TV in the Den. That is why someone may have needed to wipe the flashlight down. What if the pineapple and milk is in the Den? One of the first items Patsy moves out of the Den before she realizes she needs to be wearing gloves? JonBenet never touched the bowl, so this means she picked out pineapple from the bowl with her fingers. And a 6yr olds sticky pineapple covered fingertips touching Burkes brand new N64 controller would have triggered a 10 year old. So staging may have been picking up the Den. Removing the N64, and train tracks and placing them in Burkes room. Moving the pineapple but forgetting about it on the dining room table, which is why it wasn't wiped down. The Den is where the crime starts. Where tying up begins, because Burke impulsively want his little sister away from his present. He plans on jailing her as punishment, but that escalates as she begins to fight back.
A pretty obvious her brother did it. He was so young he would not have been held criminally accountable. I don’t see why the parents felt they needed to lie. They should have honored their daughter with the truth.
I have often thought that it was Burke. The thing that keeps me from believing that 100% is that they could have faked a kidnapping without all that elaborate staging. And, why the garrote, if that's what that was?
@@raydavison4288 Burke had recently learned how to make the knot in Boy Scouts. I Think he hated Jonbenet as in his interview with Dr Phil he denigrated his mother for being crazy over this and referred to Jonbenet as flaunting herself on stage 25 yrs after the crime with his never ending deranged smile that Dr Phil defends as nervousness. That may be Dr Phil but ths Smile is there from the get to the end re the most horrific crime we have seen. So you can only defend this psycho so much. You can get kicked off Reddit for saying as much!
@@ecalose6785if there are two people who seem to wear an inappropriate perma-smirk regardless of the subject under discussion, then it's Burke Ramsey and Shaun Atwood.
Nick, I never knew about the train. Thank you for covering this sad case. You have a great channel and I really appreciate all you put into making these videos😊
The fact that Burkes bed is made is huge. They must have sent him to his room when they found JB to decide what to do. He probably couldn’t sleep after getting in big trouble and played on the floor in his room where the train tracks were videoed in crime scene tapes. I didn’t realize that the famous photo of Burkes room was how it appeared when the police arrived. No 9 yr old boy stays in his room with police and others swarming the house, UNLESS he is in big trouble and was told to stay there.
John is so incredibly creepy, he always as a smirk on his face like he's happy when he talks about this stuff. Not an awkward forced smile, but a genuine happy smile. Dude is terrifying. I wouldn't be shocked if he did it by accident while touched her. He might have forgotten how delicate someone so young is and got carried away. He is happy while he talks about it because for him as a psychopath its one of his best moments in life.
@@rosier5428 I am a child abuse survivor he comes off as a victim to me. His awkward smile is one of social anxiety and maybe some autism. I do that too because my parents were violent and if I showed any emotions that weren't positive it was bad news. His mom was into pageant nonsense so he was likely always heavily coached about how to behave.
It's true that, we've never heard about when, by whom, how Burke was told his sister was dead, not only dead but murdered. I don't recall - even in their book - them alluding to it ? Perhaps I'm wrong, it's a long time since I read it. She hadn't been found at the point Burke was ushered out with Fleet. So he can't have been told until later. It's not something to leave to a family friend to do, however close. By all accounts Patsy was off the scale and needed sedation. In fact,John talks about them both taking medication, though he was fit to talk to his lawyer. Ahem. But yes, who was supposed to have broken the news to Burke, when and how?
I'd be interested in hearing more about the wording of the grand jury indictments and what they could potentially suggest the grand jury meant from a legal perspective. Or, were they just convinced something was amiss and keen to keep all options on the table and up to be progressed (not that they were).
Burke has always been my number one suspect. Jon Benet was dragged down the stairs, investigators found strands of her hair on the carpeted stairway, strands pulled through the fibers. Also the use of the garrote, both circumstances indicates the attacker was not strong. I absolutely believe Patsy found Jon Benet and wrote the ransom note, evidence of practice ransom notes in impressions found penetrating the pages on the pad. I absolutely think Burke is who did it.
Noooo it wasn't Burke, Burke HIT her with the flashlight because his sister grabbed a pineapple and this upset Burke, Burke LEFT HER UNCONSCIOUS and to cover up for Burke the father ended up killing her and Patsy WRITE THE NOTE people don't be stupid, for years they have had the evidence in front of their noses and they continue looking for a murderer and the only murderer is the father and why is he free because he paid good money and that's why he was saved
@@rakesfunnyfarm He was never cleared. Lacy said unknown DNA cleared Burke. She had no right to say that as Dna was touch DNA and likely left by packager. Lin Wood passed this bullchit off as valid.
If John knew what was happening with Jonbenet, but not that she had died, is that why he was trying to summon every ounce of mental capacity to get her back? It's just the fact over 100 videos of children were removed from the house which John brought back from Amsterdam business trips. I don't know which site I read about this, it made me go cold. Things suddenly seemed to fall into place, some of the odd things that so don't make sense. The only other scenario is an exhausted Patsy suddenly flipping with Jonbenet if she maybe had a tummy upset after they returned home. They had to be up early to catch the flight. Why is the red top rinsed out in the bathroom? But I can never believe Patsy would throttle her little girl with a cord which happened first. Nick always keeps delving further and further, he never gives up, thank you.
Just wanted to comment quickly on this series of videos... YOU are extremely insightful, Sir and you ask ALL the same questions that I have. I truly pray this little girl gets justice one day 🙏 ❤️ 💓
I have been saying for some years now that I think it was Burke. He was jealous of his sister, He has lashed out at her before, but I think it was in a temper not deliberate. That's why the parents kept him out of public for as long as possible. They protected him, because it would mean they would loose both children. To me it would make so much sense. They tried to throw the scent of their son. Also when someone says absolutely not it usually means absolutely. That is how Burke responded to a question by Dr Phil that he did not bash his sister with a bat. I know there is some very old poor quality clips of Burke being carefully interviewed by a psychologist quite soon after the death of JonBenet
They needed Burke removed due to questioning. They needed the friends there ( even though the ransom said no contact with anyone), so the crime scene could be compromised, they needed the Pastor for staging purposes and for comfort as they knew they were involved yet they truly were grieving over the loss of their daughter. Probably pretty nervous on how this was going to be pulled off at this point.
The bike thing- how many times had Burke been enraged at jonbenet? Think of the poop manifesting his anger in a very disturbing way. I’ve always believed Burke, rage, flashlight
You mentioned in another video whos pillow that was on the kichen table. I noticed in the picture of Burkes bedroom a pillow was missing off his bed. The other bed appears to have the same white pillow.
They keep up the intruder theory, but dozens of people were in and out of that house that night. Did they rule them all out? Has John Ramsey been ruled out? I cannot believe this is still unsolved. I still feel like the killer was not a stranger.
@@rakesfunnyfarm they were cleared of the murder, but GJ wanted to indict them for aiding and abetting murderer. John is not going to molest JonBenet after shes put to bed, bring her to the basement and have to get up in five hrs to get plane ready. Thats ridiculous. Im looking at Burke.
I wanna know why John and Patsy have never bluntly and directly asked in an interview when and for who was the bowl of Pineapple from? Milk left even overnight curdles and sours. What was the state if the milk in the bowl at the time of the photo? These are random questions I know, but I always think about it lol
A jealous and bitterly enraged Burke, who was neglected by his mostly absent Father and ignored by a Mother who showered all her attention and love her little pageant queen, struck and killed Jon Benet. The parents then proceeded to fake a ransom note and strangling to cover it up.
As I recall, John said this toy had little ramps and Burke told Dr. Phil he went back downstairs as he wanted to "knock this thing out" (a toy Burke and his father started to put together).The subterfuge and contradictions from John and Patsy could be attributed to not being sure what Burke might have heard since Burke says he went back downstairs "when everyone was asleep," and wanting to make sure (by hustling him out of the house) he wouldn't tell anyone, law enforcement, what he may have heard. Downstairs to me means under the tree where the presents were opened from early Christmas morning.
Burke up wandering about the home, late that night. He may have brushed very near to the killer at any point. Yet he reports nothing about it. No fear even.
@@dennistrull1475that reminds me of the McCanns saying that the "abductor" could even have been hiding in the room when they checked on Maddie. Yet still Kate left the twins alone when she raised the alarm.
Just look in his eyes between 0:10 and 0:17 you can see how something is changing. Because he knows that something happend in that house after Burk went to bed.
They did not try to get no help for their son.He had mental issues and he had already been harassing and abusing his sister.This family has taught me a lot. And the brother to this day still smile and has no remorse for the loss of his sister
Nick i have a question for you.IF Patsy went to bed why was she still wearing the same clothes the next morning. This has always stuck in my mind. I believe whomever made the pineapple knows the truth.
@@rakesfunnyfarm what makes you think she slept in them. You people just make it up. She simply wore the same outfit. Its not like she swam the English Channel in the clothes. She wore them for a few hrs visiting.
Yes, exactly. I've been studying the material since 2020. Someone in that house did it. I believe it was the son. The 911 call has voices in the background with the parents being distraught, and the father is believed to be saying, "I can't look at you right now"
Well, electrical train track burns are unlikely when you study the way those tracks work, imo. Current apparently does not flow between the outside rails. It flows from the middle rail to the outside rails. You'd either get three marks, or two marks that match the spacing from the center rail to an outside rail. You should not be able to create two burn marks matching the outside rail spacing, imo.
what you said about the windows on the front of the hose being Burkes room. All 3 are single pane windows but the picture from inside Burkes room that they say Jon was looking through with binoculars , is a double pane window. Where are the single pane windows? Doesn't make sense.
@@TCRS You are actually right, it is Burke’s room. That window the OP is taking about is a side window. The three single pane windows are on the wall to the bottom of the beds and out of view of the photographs.
Give me grace 🙄 ~ as a fashion conscious woman myself ~ if I hear ONE more man STEREOTYPING and evaluating what Patsy was wearing that morning, like Steve Thomas, Cottonstar and now Nick - to use as evidence that Patsy was up all night. 🤦♀️ Have you even thought this through clearly and logically? Serious question. How many fashion conscious women have you actually interviewed on this one point? Patsy wearing the same 'neat and tidy' holiday outfit (with fresh makeup) that she wore for only a few hours the night before makes PERFECT sense to me - especially when traveling to another event with family. Think it through step by step.
@TCRS "Have you ever won a beauty pageant?" I won 1st place in a female "Slave Sale" contest. Does that count? 😅 I was the first to train Gretchen Carlson on the computer when she was still reigning Miss America. She was very personable with me when one on one. Down to earth. Casual attire. My older cousin was a prim and proper pageant winner in Florida. Then she became a wife and mother and managed her rich banker husband's golf course along with a quaint little bowling alley and restaurant. A lot of activity in her life. Perfect house, perfect kids. Everyone grew up and continues to live healthy and happy. Close family and loves entertaining. But she has never seemed overly obsessed with her attire in any unusual manner. My college roommate was a pageant queen in Wisconsin, whom I also traveled with on occasion. She would easily wear the same outfit two times in a row - two different events. One thing pageant queens know how to do is travel smart. Pack wisely. Money has little to do with picking out your favorite outfits, and planning ahead, ESPECIALLY for the holidays. There are only so many favorite red sweaters and black slacks a woman needs in her wardrobe. Especially when your audience changes with each event. Patsy was no longer a pageant queen. She was a mother and a wife. Less fuss, Less muss is KEY in preparation. From what we've learned, Patsy got up early, cleaned up, touched up, put on the same easy slacks and sweater, laid out the night before, and headed downstairs. Perfect traveling attire. Most mothers know it's easier to get yourself ready first before starting your day. If Patsy had worn that same outfit all night long (doing everything you are implying), the sweater would have been a stretched out MESS, cuffs and collar soiled, sweaty and the slacks most likely stained. Did Steve Thomas ever check out THOSE important details? I think not. Her fresh face points towards innocence. Have you ever been a woman? Have you ever been a mother? Turnaround is fairplay. 😉
@@nottthereyet4872 sorry, but if someone is wearing the same clothes in the morning that they wore the night before, I think the most obvious explanation is that they have been wearing them all night. The fact that Nick hasn't worked with quite as many beauty queens as you doesn't change that.
@PaulTaylor1 Nick asked me a question, and I answered authentically to give some perspective. Patsy, being a beauty queen years earlier, does not equate with never wearing the same outfit to two different activities. Unless, of course, the clothes are soiled. Other women I have talked with concur.
I agree that it is not that odd. She probably only wore the outfit a few hours. It was ready to go and would get a bit disheveled traveling anyway. Why waste fresh clothing and likely have to change again after you get there? The key is that you are seeing different people. I've seen my husband do this too. He wears a suit to one event and saves the time thinking about a new outfit and just wears it to another event where the people are different and won't recognize the re-wear. A lot of people travel in the same clothes on a long drive.
@@rakesfunnyfarmwhy are you going through everyone’s comments saying this ? Cleared or not it’s pretty obvious people don’t believe it. I find it hard to believe that the courts got it right but the rest of the world is wrong. The number of people who think Burke or the parents were involved far outnumber those who don’t.
The dad did it. Burke probably witnessed some portion of it. Both children severely mentally abused. Burke probably SA also. Family called in a “fixer” . Burke is the typical scape goat in the family. I smile and laugh inappropriately- it’s anxiety and stress response.
Can you make a video about the caĺl to the police from the Ramsyes house, that was placed the day before the "kidnapping"?
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@@TCRS great, thanks 🙏 awesome analyses on this channel!
Their was no kidnapping.
@@jacquelinehunt7794*There
I hope one day they will solve this case Jonbenet deserves justice. That little girl didn't deserve to die the way she did.
@Luvs. Its sometimes not thought of so much, with trying to find out what happened. But it's so cruel what happened to Jonbenet.
I agree , and I think that she gets lost in all this sometimes 😞
I want JonBenet and Madalaine to get justice they deserve
Prayers
On an evaluation, Burke said when he was told his sister was dead, he asked ‘where did they find the body’? Unusual response from a child, referring to his sister as a body and curious as to where she was found.
He also said he went downstairs after everyone was sleepy.
Agreed. If that happened in my family, I would have been a wreck. Crying. Not laughing and giggling
@@dennistrull1475 and he wasn't afraid to stay in the house where an INTRUDER came in and killed his sister. The GJ wanted to indict John and Patsy for aiding and abetting! Who did they aid and abet? In Dr Phil interview Burke described his dead sister at the xmas show as FLAUNTING. This is 25 years later.
@@DianeAvery-h1s lmaoooooo people will believe anything
@@ecalose6785I can understand why he wasn't afraid to stay in the house (if that's accurate). He was only 10, and the place a little kid feels safest is with their parents.
they are all lying so much it is ridiculous they have never been caught..
And SO combative in interviews.....like, 'how dare you question us!'
Burke saw something or did something, that's why John and Patsy didnt want him around anybody or the police.
Burke was interviewed by a police detective on Dec. 26, 1996 at the White's house, with neither parent present.
Yes thank you AND unknown male DNA was found on JBR that did not match anyone in the family nor their friends. @catspajamas2961
He did it by accident I feel.
@@Chron-sl4ndplanted their.
I agree. That's why they shipped him off. Why police let him leave, is crazy. Too many people wandering around the house sounds like p and j were trying to muddy the investigation waters.
The truth may never be known because everyone is lying.
Everyone except JonBenet...
😯*W.h.e.n. YOU "Cover-UP", YOU AutomaticaLLy🤔H.a.v.e. To LIE UP T.o.o.*!!😯*Comes ALong With THE T.e.r.r.i.t.o.r.y.*!!😯 *S.i.g.n.e.d.: "CHIEF--CRIME-- PROPHET"*!!✅
I can’t get over what a mess that house is. I thought they had a housekeeper. Every room is a mess.
I love how people like the Ramseys, McCanns, and Amanda Knox vacillate between carefully observed details - like in their books - and utter vague nonsense. 🤷♂️
LIARS,
GOOD LIARS
It's a shame they didn't just call 911 when they discovered JB injured. They must have known what really happened. The ransom more gives it away.
🤔
@@rakesfunnyfarmwhat's with the face?
Yes it was obviously some sort of accident. These things happen unfortunately but why they didn’t just call 9-1-1 and get help is the mystery. Probably fear that Burke would be taken away or they’d be accused but if it was an accident, neither would have happened. Sad.
There was no reason for them not to call 911 for an injured daughter. They certainly couldn't have thought it would be easier to get out of a murder charge than a charge related to an accidental injury to JB. Burke, at the age of 9, could not be held liable in Colorado if he was the one that hit JB in the head. It makes no sense at all to me to concoct and create a story with far more serious legal implications, instead of just covering up an accident. It's far easier to say it was an accident and deal with that, than to strangle JB and make up a ransom note and a big story about a kidnapping.
@@bills6093 unless panic had kicked in…
Burke lied on Dr Phil, he didn’t get a bike for Christmas.in The Death of Innocence it says that they bought a bike for Burke but were saving it for his birthday . I think Burke was upset about not getting a new bike for Xmas and that’s why there were presents with torn wrapping paper in the basement. Burke was on a rampage that night!
Dr. Phil is NOT a doctor.
thank you, was sure had read that - this story shifts like sand
this house had more activity then times square
Especially after a busy few days, and a long Christmas day with the party in the evening. Patsy looked exhausted in the early morning photo with Jonbenet. Its like with the McCanns, giving different scenarios and accounts immediately creates doubt of what was actually true. Just feel its really important to remember the strangling happened prior to the severe head injury.Poor little girl struggled against the cord, pulling and scratching her neck with her own skin tissue found under her fingernails. It just sets a different perspective on it.
The police woman completely dropped the ball on the crime scene and failed Jon Benet, as much as the killer and her parents
I will always think Burke had something to do with it.
Me too
😁*GOOD*!!✅
@Sandy. The strangling with the cord came first, would Burke do that? Where are the real signs he was violent towards Jonbenet? The only incident is the golf club, which was proved a complete accident by others present.
Where's the proof he was gentle with her?
It's said he covered her chocolate gift in poo.
Just because there was only one significant injury doesn't mean that there was no animosity. What young brothers and sisters get on brilliantly without rivalry??
@@user-qh8nh7oe6d in correct, the blunt force trauma to her head was the first injury.
That is crap that Burke was sleeping because u can hear him on the 911 call
Absolutely believe Burke did it .
Me, too.
@@csh43166 me too!
@@sherryaleshire9187 something is,wrong with the little boy and still wrong as an Adult. Everyone it seemed aT the time said the little boy couldn't have killed his sister, but some children, are capable
@sherry. Just think of the sequence of injuries. Jonbenet was struggling against the cord. That happened first, prior to the severe head injury.
He did. Strange kid
Honestly I think that Burke did it in the basement and the parents covered it up to protect their son
Agree
Absolutely, positively right!
Completely agree.
@@MikeMoses-c5e idk. Could burke have actually fashioned something to choke her out with? Im not sure he could at that age. And so if it was with bear hands that he did it, they could have determined that. There'd be finger nail impressions. And Jon Benet would have instinctively tried to dig her fingernails into him to make him stop. So if the garrote was for sure the cause of death, little Burke couldn't have done all this. And you could toss a garrote around her neck to cover it up, but you'd never be able to undo the forensics of doing it with bare hands or something else.
Well there were the two marks caused by the electrical train tracks. Is it possible he zapped her as a prank, and she became unconscious, so he garrotted her after that as he thought she was already dead and wanted it to look like an intruder? I'm thinking aloud here lol. That would explain why she couldn't fight back.
I thought Burke is heard in the background of the phone call to 911. So he was up…
True, the Ramseys lied about that also.
Yes! and Patsy says something like"go back to your room.""we are mad at you!"
@@joycedoyle8251 she didnt say we are mad at you. John said we are not talking to you. Patsy supposedly said Help me Jess, what did you do. Dont make things up.
He was heard and his mum was heard saying what have you done.
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If you tell the truth you never have to remember what you said before.
The truth will never change whereas lies will always change as the liar won’t remember exactly what they said before. It’ll change or be altered everytime.
I have zero time for people who lie.
This little beautiful girl JB deserves justice. Even after so many years the truth & justice must be served.
May JB rest in heavenly peace. 🕊️ 💓
Thanks for staying on the JB case Nick. You truly cover it the best. Good points & well researched.
We have friends & the husband was a policeman & had conversations w/officers in the Boulder force. The evidence was disturbed in some manner so that they were unable to charge who they knew did the crime. The friend was firm when he said, “it was the father” 🤷♀️
The officer who was there really felt it was the father as well.
I believe it was John Ramsay
@william. I believe he was involved, but not directly. I don't know when but Patsy and Burke knew. Burke protects his parents, not them, him. I still don't understand about the ransom note. I can't believe how they could go on compose and write all that knowing what had just happened to their little girl. I don't know if John didn't even find out what had gone so wrong until the following morning. But he has not been truthful in his accounts, or Patsy.
I heard some psychic investigators got in touch in the afterlife. JB said her dad choked her, she said twice. He was mad, nervous.
Yep
Thanks Nick keep searching. You are a magnificent journalist and writer, and you have the intellectual ability to find what really happened. As forensic technology is getting better all the time, enabling a selfless, curious professional like yourself to get some justice for JBR. Cheers, DeborahD, always listening ❤
When is he scheduled to walk on water.
It was just to strange that Burt would stay in bed knowing that someone had taken his little sister. I think most all others brothers would be up asking questions about their sister. I will always believe he knows what happened to her.
John Ramsey doesn’t seem like the kind of dad to be all “oh, shucks, if you won’t go to bed, I’ll just have to assist you to disobey me by helping you put the model together “. To me, he seems more like the type to not put up with that. And that’s not a criticism. If you tell a kid to go to bed, they should go to bed. The kid wasn’t 3 years old or anything.
He spent a little time with him putting the toy together then bed, but Burke snuck downstairs after everyone was in bed.
The dads in my family would have made an exception to bedtime because it was Christmas time. I can easily imagine any dad bending the rules at that time of year.
Burke seemed to lack any concern of a stranger or outsider as a threat to the family, as though he knew who killed his sister.
No concern at all!
he seems autistic
I wonder if Burke has autism, perhaps Aspergers. In which case he might not react as we would expect.
@@Beckiner67he seems a strange one.
@@Beckiner67 Great point, he may have had a different perspective.
But Burke didn’t get a bike. It was saved for his birthday. So the second bike he saw when he peeked around the corner on Christmas Eve was for Patsy. I can only imagine the disappointment
@loueynewzea
His birthday was going to be in January 1997, I believe. Still, it was an error not to give the bicycle to him for Christmas. With Patsy also getting a bike, he must have felt very left out. I felt very sorry for him.
@@nancy2anne He got enough by the sound of it. Spoiled brat.
@nancy. I'm not sure about the bike. What he really had wanted was the Nintendo, which he received. That was top of the list for many boys at that time.
@@nancy2anneThey were very rich...$$$ thee kid got everything he wanted.. he just seems very creepy to me that doesn't mean he did it... But someone in that house killed her... And she needs Justice....
The kid just got an N64 for Christmas.😮 He was obsessed with Nintendo. He had a bike already. Burke even admits he fights with JB over Nintendo. Her friends share similar stories of how JB and she could trigger Burke over Nintendo.
3D Mario for the first time and you think he's building models or wishing for a bike? He took the N64 to the dinner party and would have been carrying back indoors with him that evening right next to the TV room and Den.
The two things that are never discussed by any Ramseys is the Den where the Big TV is and Burkes N64.
This is not jealousy over what Burke didn't get. It's what he did get and his pineapple sticky fingers sister wanted to play with...
he went to bed, and patsy and i went to bed... what about Jonbonet? Did she go to bed? Or was she already dead?
He says bed way too many times, like over trying to make that point.
Several things don't make sense:
1. There was no sign of forced entry.
2. The "ransom note" was written on a legal pad that came from the Ramsey house. So, the intruder somehow gains entry into the house, then spends time (and noise) rummaging through drawers and cabinets until he finds pen and paper?
3. The "ransom note" was 2.5 pages long. So, the intruder is going to sit at the kitchen table and spend a good 30 minutes or so writing out this long note?
4. Burke slept through all the commotion the next morning. First, I find that very hard to believe. Second, he is a ten year old kid who just got a bunch of presents the day before. He would be down those stairs at dawn playing with all his new toys.
5. There are four people in that house and no one heard the intruder walking up the stairs? Jonbenet didn't scream?
6. The murder weapon was a garotte made from a paint brush and rope from inside the house. So the intruder is apparently going to take the time searching for a paint brush and rope, spend the time tying the knots, and use THAT (of all things) to kill someone?
7. If, as the note professes, you are trying to get a ransom payout from the Ramseys, why leave Jonbenet's dead body in the house? If you leave her dead body inside the house (which they obviously did), why leave a note demanding money?
8. Patsy was wearing the same clothes the morning of December 26th that she was wearing the night before at their friend's Christmas dinner. Patsy Ramsey, the former beauty queen, and so concerned about image, is going to wake up and put on the same FORMAL clothes she was wearing the night before? No way. She was still wearing the same clothes because she was up all night staging a crime scene.
If you ask yourself all of these questions, I think you will have a hard time convincing anyone that the boogeyman did it. I think either Patsy or Burke did it, not John. I'm not saying a murder was committed. Perhaps it was a slip and fall or a push comes to shove, which led to an accident, but a family member was responsible.
@@joez203 intruder, while taking the time to write a novel after finding all the supplies, then writes just like Patsy! It's quite an accomplishment!
How would you slip and fall and gorrotte yourself and leave a note?
AND from Ken Mains, the writer of the nite put the pen used BACK in the jar. Thats habit. I have to give credit to Ken Mains there, really good observance. Kens channel is Unsolved No More. I thought this was a fine example of detective work!
@ecalose6785 I mean that makes it sound very rushed like they had to think of a plan overnight. If you had planned it you'd buy a pen and paper. Although god knows maybe they just enjoyed the process of making it so obvious. Why are these people not in prison?
@@serendipidus8482 Theres no proof that either one did it. Wheres the proof? Its very hard to listen to them because we know theyre lying. I think they're in full protection mode!
Honestly I think Burkes’ got a touch of the old ‘tism so it’s not at all surprising that A. He had sleeping thru the night “issues” and B. That his parents knew about this and are bs-ing to cover it up
As time and the truth of what horroble people can do has gone by, it seems more obvious that a family member killed her.
*N.o.t. "JOHN RAMSEY"*!!😯 And T.h.i.s. I CAN Guarantee YAH*!! **S.i.g.n.e.d.: "CHIEF-- CRIME--PROPHET"*!!✅
Nothing's ever straightforward when you start lying and dissembling.
Especially in this case that maybe the parents were covering for their Son.
@@deborahd7321 mmmhmmm!
@ deborah, or him covering for them.
So very true! 💯
That house is an absolute mess! Every single room looks like stuff just gets thrown around, on the floor, cabinet doors open, toiletries left out on the counter.......and they had 2 housekeepers? I cleaned houses for 20 years. I would've lost my job on the first day!
I thought JonBenet was the only one who got a bicycle for Christmas.
More than anyone you have brought this case into focus!
It's safe to say there was none of that anti gender stereotype in Patsy's house. Burke's room - little junior executive style mid ranking sales manager in a hotel chain, Jon Benet's room - life sized dolls, swags and flounces & frills.
Brilliant Details here. One of my favorites that you have made on this case yet.
Interesting putting their timelines together. 💯🚀🤍
Fairly obvious he hated his sister and all the attention she got. He was molesting her and they knew about it. Add two narcissists trying to protect their “perfect” image.
I wonder how much courage it takes
To reveal THE TRUTH...
We All know this Crime is Familial
None of their story makes sense . You would call the police immediately. There could have been someone in the house still. It makes no sense!!! No one broke in.
You wouldn't call police if, in the process of molesting your daughter, you accidentally kill her.
John is so slimy. Ugh. 🤮
@@nottthereyet4872 Them having an open house around the holidays, and delivering Christmas gifts to their friends has NOTHING to do with the murder of JonBenet. I think John is a creep who knows EXACTLY what happened to his daughter, and is not being truthful about what he knows. It's just my opinion.
Just like you think that since they appeard as upstanding citizens who were generous, would vindicate them.
So yes, I think John is very slimy.
@@laurasutcliffe723 Your grammar is below standard level. In my opinion, that makes you slimy.
@@nottthereyet4872 I know you're an annoying idiot.
@@nottthereyet4872 They skipped town and did no police interviews and went on Oprah, even their friends were disgusted with them for that. Shame on them.
@RawOlympia Boulder had tunnel vision, and they rightfully lawyered up. The entire family was under immediate public scrutiny from Day 1. They certainly could not stay in that house with the press hounding them daily. And who would want to stay there after JonBenet's murder?
Photos and speculation were headlined on every Cable TV news station, plastered over every front page in every newsstand, and every grocery checkout line in America.
Incidentally, who do you think was the one who told JonBenet she would receive a "secret visit from Santa after Christmas?"
That information came from a neutral party. Not from the Ramseys.
Why was Patsy's sister allowed to come in and raid the crime scene?? Who signed off on that?
It’s weird how people want to blame her brother and ignore her sick parents. Even if he was FORCED to participate in any sick acts he was the child they were the adults. Patsy was acting like she was under the influence of something in the interview
@@Anne.411 her parents didn’t kill her but they WERE responsible for letting her alone with her psycho brother
I followed this case from the beginning and I always believed one of the parents was the murderer.
@@erikamichels103 Yes me as well and I truly believe it was her mother. It’s got to be the reason she was served that cancer and is now gone. Guilt didn’t eat her up, the cancer did. She never responded in an appropriate manner. its all weird because to be this stage mom who pranced her daughter around in these pageants and pretended to care for her ended up proving she didnt give 2 sh*ts about her
@@rosier5428 You cannot prove he did that and if he did why would her parents go through the measures they apparently did to hide an accident? Why would her brother have to go down in the basement to do this?? How do you think he got her down there? Why didn’t he just do it upstairs in his room or hers
@@Anne.411 Yes, Patsy has and always will be the one I suspect killed her. No reason to cover up an accidental injury if it was Burke, plenty of reasons if it was at the hands of an adult. I toyed around with the idea of John but couldn’t get that to gel with the evidence.
What sort of kidnapper writes a 3 page ransom note while there in side the Ramsey home .where they not in a hurry. Posh bastards that got away with murder. R.I.P Jonbenet❤❤❤
Extremely interesting Nick, so much I didn't know
More to add to add to my note book
Thank you
❤
I have to stop the video several times cause everyone’s comments are so dang interesting! …ok , back to the video
It has to be someone in the house, imo.
Everything about this case is so very sus...the way it came about and investigated doesn't make sense.
Everything makes sense if you think John did it.
I think Burke hit JB with the flashlight after they had some sort of argument but it wouldn't have been enough on it's own to kill her so I think John finished her off with the garrot, I think John had to make sure she was dead because if they took her to the hospital with the head wound the doctors may have seen the signs of sexual abuse during their check up and questioned everything else, I think Patsy colluded with the cover up by writing the note and all the stuff afterwards.
But it's far easier to get out of an accident. Why create a far more complex situation where you would be facing a murder charge? And how the heck can you strangle your own unconscious daughter over just lying your way through an accident story? Makes no sense at all to me. Just call 911 and be ready with your accidental hit on the head story. If you want to protect Burke, you can leave him out of the story. Except you don't need to protect Burke because at 9, he's not legally responsible even if he deliberately hit her on the head.
@@bills6093 Because of the sexual abuse, they would have 100% clocked it in a postmortem so not making this whole predator cover up would lead them to the people who most likely caused or allowed JB to be abused in that way - the parents. The sexual abuse is what they were covering up, not the accident/murder. I imagine there were more people involved in the abuse so letting that get out would ruin a lot of people.
Good one...U read my mind!!!
Also.....her bedwetting was a sure sign of abuse!!!!
All their money.....let them get away with Murder!!! Think they were Swingers2!!!😥
I think Burke did it all. John loved Jonbenet and there was no blood from fracture. He would have tried to save her.
@@ecalose6785 I really don't think an 8 year old would know what a garrot is or how it worked. I also don't think an 8 year old would be able to carry a dead weight from one end of the house to the other (there were no drag marks on her body meaning she was carried and even if there were drag marks I don't think he'd be able to drag her all the way to the basement by himself) I think he caused the initial accident by hitting her on the head and then the parents killed her and covered it up to hide the sexual abuse.
JonBenet's matress was covered in dried urine, and that mattress in the photo must have smelled terrible throughout the floor of the house. That is disgusting, and the mattress should have been thrown out months before this. You can see how it's stained.
Beauty queen urine smells of pineapple, maybe! ;-)
The N64 needs assembling, of a sort. It must be connected to a TV. The only TV on the main floor (1st floor) is in the Den (aka the study). The images of this room are the most limited in the public photos. There is sometimes listed in blueprints that there is a bookcase on the wall where the TV should be. This room is directly off the garage.
The evening of the 25th, Burke took the N64 to the Dinner party. He would have been carrying it in from the garage with him when the Ramseys returned home, and may have wanted to reconnect the console to the big TV.
I've used flashlights to see the RCA connections on big TVs. I wouldn't doubt Burke held it for John so they could finish "assembling" the N64 on to the Big TV in the Den. That is why someone may have needed to wipe the flashlight down.
What if the pineapple and milk is in the Den? One of the first items Patsy moves out of the Den before she realizes she needs to be wearing gloves?
JonBenet never touched the bowl, so this means she picked out pineapple from the bowl with her fingers.
And a 6yr olds sticky pineapple covered fingertips touching Burkes brand new N64 controller would have triggered a 10 year old.
So staging may have been picking up the Den. Removing the N64, and train tracks and placing them in Burkes room. Moving the pineapple but forgetting about it on the dining room table, which is why it wasn't wiped down.
The Den is where the crime starts. Where tying up begins, because Burke impulsively want his little sister away from his present. He plans on jailing her as punishment, but that escalates as she begins to fight back.
Great job always listening and sharing ty blessings
Burke says he got a bike. Jon says everyone got bikes except Burke
It’s aggravating most their answers seem sketchy imo, some interviews their either backtracking or changing up bits of the story
A pretty obvious her brother did it. He was so young he would not have been held criminally accountable. I don’t see why the parents felt they needed to lie. They should have honored their daughter with the truth.
Easier said than done!
I have often thought that it was Burke. The thing that keeps me from believing that 100% is that they could have faked a kidnapping without all that elaborate staging. And, why the garrote, if that's what that was?
Yes he would have. He would definitely have been taken from them!
@@raydavison4288 Burke had recently learned how to make the knot in Boy Scouts. I Think he hated Jonbenet as in his interview with Dr Phil he denigrated his mother for being crazy over this and referred to Jonbenet as flaunting herself on stage 25 yrs after the crime with his never ending deranged smile that Dr Phil defends as nervousness. That may be Dr Phil but ths Smile is there from the get to the end re the most horrific crime we have seen. So you can only defend this psycho so much. You can get kicked off Reddit for saying as much!
@@ecalose6785if there are two people who seem to wear an inappropriate perma-smirk regardless of the subject under discussion, then it's Burke Ramsey and Shaun Atwood.
Nick, I never knew about the train. Thank you for covering this sad case. You have a great channel and I really appreciate all you put into making these videos😊
The fact that Burkes bed is made is huge. They must have sent him to his room when they found JB to decide what to do. He probably couldn’t sleep after getting in big trouble and played on the floor in his room where the train tracks were videoed in crime scene tapes. I didn’t realize that the famous photo of Burkes room was how it appeared when the police arrived. No 9 yr old boy stays in his room with police and others swarming the house, UNLESS he is in big trouble and was told to stay there.
I'm pretty sure that Fleet White said that he made Burke's bed up before they left for White's house.
For what reason @@bills6093
@@bills6093that doesn’t sound believable on Fleets part. I would never think of making someone else’s kids bed at a time like that
John is so incredibly creepy, he always as a smirk on his face like he's happy when he talks about this stuff. Not an awkward forced smile, but a genuine happy smile. Dude is terrifying. I wouldn't be shocked if he did it by accident while touched her. He might have forgotten how delicate someone so young is and got carried away. He is happy while he talks about it because for him as a psychopath its one of his best moments in life.
@@mysurfing3550 you don’t think his son is creepy??
That smile on John's face, it's called "Duper's Delight."
@@rosier5428 I am a child abuse survivor he comes off as a victim to me. His awkward smile is one of social anxiety and maybe some autism. I do that too because my parents were violent and if I showed any emotions that weren't positive it was bad news. His mom was into pageant nonsense so he was likely always heavily coached about how to behave.
He didn't do it!
@@JeepGirl941 ridiculous. You just don't like John!
It's true that, we've never heard about when, by whom, how Burke was told his sister was dead, not only dead but murdered. I don't recall - even in their book - them alluding to it ? Perhaps I'm wrong, it's a long time since I read it. She hadn't been found at the point Burke was ushered out with Fleet. So he can't have been told until later. It's not something to leave to a family friend to do, however close. By all accounts Patsy was off the scale and needed sedation. In fact,John talks about them both taking medication, though he was fit to talk to his lawyer. Ahem. But yes, who was supposed to have broken the news to Burke, when and how?
I'd be interested in hearing more about the wording of the grand jury indictments and what they could potentially suggest the grand jury meant from a legal perspective. Or, were they just convinced something was amiss and keen to keep all options on the table and up to be progressed (not that they were).
Burke has always been my number one suspect. Jon Benet was dragged down the stairs, investigators found strands of her hair on the carpeted stairway, strands pulled through the fibers. Also the use of the garrote, both circumstances indicates the attacker was not strong. I absolutely believe Patsy found Jon Benet and wrote the ransom note, evidence of practice ransom notes in impressions found penetrating the pages on the pad. I absolutely think Burke is who did it.
He was cleared.
@@rakesfunnyfarmNo he wasn’t.
Noooo it wasn't Burke, Burke HIT her with the flashlight because his sister grabbed a pineapple and this upset Burke, Burke LEFT HER UNCONSCIOUS and to cover up for Burke the father ended up killing her and Patsy WRITE THE NOTE people don't be stupid, for years they have had the evidence in front of their noses and they continue looking for a murderer and the only murderer is the father and why is he free because he paid good money and that's why he was saved
@@rakesfunnyfarm He was never cleared. Lacy said unknown DNA cleared Burke. She had no right to say that as Dna was touch DNA and likely left by packager. Lin Wood passed this bullchit off as valid.
@@rakesfunnyfarmhe was not.
“… a model of some kind”.
“… I helped him put together.”
WHAT?
Doesn’t he know what kind of model he put together himself recently?
He's saying "went to bed" a lot.
Yeah, it stood out to me. He mentioned it 5 times in the first 20 sec.
He went to jonbenets bed...
If John knew what was happening with Jonbenet, but not that she had died, is that why he was trying to summon every ounce of mental capacity to get her back? It's just the fact over 100 videos of children were removed from the house which John brought back from Amsterdam business trips. I don't know which site I read about this, it made me go cold. Things suddenly seemed to fall into place, some of the odd things that so don't make sense. The only other scenario is an exhausted Patsy suddenly flipping with Jonbenet if she maybe had a tummy upset after they returned home. They had to be up early to catch the flight. Why is the red top rinsed out in the bathroom? But I can never believe Patsy would throttle her little girl with a cord which happened first. Nick always keeps delving further and further, he never gives up, thank you.
Burke can be heard on 911 call asking what happened
Just wanted to comment quickly on this series of videos... YOU are extremely insightful, Sir and you ask ALL the same questions that I have. I truly pray this little girl gets justice one day 🙏 ❤️ 💓
I have been saying for some years now that I think it was Burke. He was jealous of his sister, He has lashed out at her before, but I think it was in a temper not deliberate. That's why the parents kept him out of public for as long as possible. They protected him, because it would mean they would loose both children. To me it would make so much sense. They tried to throw the scent of their son. Also when someone says absolutely not it usually means absolutely. That is how Burke responded to a question by Dr Phil that he did not bash his sister with a bat. I know there is some very old poor quality clips of Burke being carefully interviewed by a psychologist quite soon after the death of JonBenet
They needed Burke removed due to questioning. They needed the friends there ( even though the ransom said no contact with anyone), so the crime scene could be compromised, they needed the Pastor for staging purposes and for comfort as they knew they were involved yet they truly were grieving over the loss of their daughter. Probably pretty nervous on how this was going to be pulled off at this point.
They were cleared.
@@rakesfunnyfarmI remember the DA apologizing to the Ramsey's and saying they were no longer suspects. But wasn't that rescinded?
@@rakesfunnyfarmso was OJ.😂
@@rakesfunnyfarmNo. They weren’t cleared.
The bike thing- how many times had Burke been enraged at jonbenet?
Think of the poop manifesting his anger in a very disturbing way.
I’ve always believed Burke, rage, flashlight
He’s not wired up right .
@@jacquelinehunt7794 no he definitely had some very quirky ( being nice) mannerisms
You mentioned in another video whos pillow that was on the kichen table. I noticed in the picture of Burkes bedroom a pillow was missing off his bed. The other bed appears to have the same white pillow.
They keep up the intruder theory, but dozens of people were in and out of that house that night. Did they rule them all out? Has John Ramsey been ruled out? I cannot believe this is still unsolved. I still feel like the killer was not a stranger.
They were cleared.
@@rakesfunnyfarm they were cleared of the murder, but GJ wanted to indict them for aiding and abetting murderer. John is not going to molest JonBenet after shes put to bed, bring her to the basement and have to get up in five hrs to get plane ready. Thats ridiculous. Im looking at Burke.
It’s been solved just not officially it’s also way too late for anyone to face any consequences.
I wanna know why John and Patsy have never bluntly and directly asked in an interview when and for who was the bowl of Pineapple from? Milk left even overnight curdles and sours. What was the state if the milk in the bowl at the time of the photo? These are random questions I know, but I always think about it lol
A jealous and bitterly enraged Burke, who was neglected by his mostly absent Father and ignored by a Mother who showered all her attention and love her little pageant queen, struck and killed Jon Benet. The parents then proceeded to fake a ransom note and strangling to cover it up.
very very well said , this is how you investigate and sum matters up
🎉Thanks for your hard work!
As I recall, John said this toy had little ramps and Burke told Dr. Phil he went back downstairs as he wanted to "knock this thing out" (a toy Burke and his father started to put together).The subterfuge and contradictions from John and Patsy could be attributed to not being sure what Burke might have heard since Burke says he went back downstairs "when everyone was asleep," and wanting to make sure (by hustling him out of the house) he wouldn't tell anyone, law enforcement, what he may have heard. Downstairs to me means under the tree where the presents were opened from early Christmas morning.
Burke up wandering about the home, late that night. He may have brushed very near to the killer at any point. Yet he reports nothing about it. No fear even.
@@dennistrull1475that reminds me of the McCanns saying that the "abductor" could even have been hiding in the room when they checked on Maddie. Yet still Kate left the twins alone when she raised the alarm.
@@PaulTaylor1 strange cases
I thought I had read that Patsy and Jon Benet got bikes and Burke didn’t. It was said it was being saved for his birthday which was soon.
Just look in his eyes between 0:10 and 0:17 you can see how something is changing. Because he knows that something happend in that house after Burk went to bed.
I see this
It’s all so deceitful. There was only one person in the house that had motive. Crime of passion or not, just one person.
Burke didn't get a bike. They planned to give him his on his bday
Interesting how a smart guy like John, can’t remember too much about anything! One does not run a billion dollar corporation with a poor memory!
Another great one!!
They did not try to get no help for their son.He had mental issues and he had already been harassing and abusing his sister.This family has taught me a lot.
And the brother to this day still smile and has no remorse for the loss of his sister
I always thought Burke and jon bonet were up farting around and he killed her by accident.
The Autopsy said there was a yellow substance in her Stomach, not that it had to be Pineapple, her prints were not on the Bowl!
She wouldn't have to touch the bowl since people eat with forks in the U.S. and the bowl was set down in front of her
There was a spoon in the bowl of pineapple with milk in it, like cereal, not a fork.
When they show me another ransom note of 3 pages in another crime it was burke and flash light
Nick i have a question for you.IF Patsy went to bed why was she still wearing the same clothes the next morning. This has always stuck in my mind. I believe whomever made the pineapple knows the truth.
That means nothing. I have plenty have times went to bed without changing.
Did someone die in your house on one of those times?
@@TCRSLol. Haven't slept in my clothes since college.
@@rakesfunnyfarm so it *might* mean nothing. It's worth noting, surely?
@@rakesfunnyfarm what makes you think she slept in them. You people just make it up. She simply wore the same outfit. Its not like she swam the English Channel in the clothes. She wore them for a few hrs visiting.
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It's not logical that John's first response wasn't to look for his daughter.
We need to thank the police for making sure this crime will never be solved.
Well, mostly the DA and whoever else john was paying.
I think it was reported that the mysterious marks found on JB's body matched in width the end of a piece of his trainset track.
🤔
Yes, exactly. I've been studying the material since 2020. Someone in that house did it. I believe it was the son. The 911 call has voices in the background with the parents being distraught, and the father is believed to be saying, "I can't look at you right now"
Well, electrical train track burns are unlikely when you study the way those tracks work, imo. Current apparently does not flow between the outside rails. It flows from the middle rail to the outside rails. You'd either get three marks, or two marks that match the spacing from the center rail to an outside rail. You should not be able to create two burn marks matching the outside rail spacing, imo.
@@bills6093 Thanks, I was wondering about all that.
@@Eyeswideopen_1111 Oh really? I haven't heard that. Interesting. Just curious, are you from Cincinnati?
So she went downstairs to play with the train and Burke got mad and hurt her
Would have been nice to finger print the mind hunter book.
I know it’s a very very very stupid question but what were the binoculars for?
I saw a paranormal video jonbennet came through and was asked how she died and the little girl said “ Daddy choked me out” ?
Ah well that settles it then, eh? 🙂
Don't believe those psycho psychics.
Only John and Burke are left. Someone needs to find the truth and punished.
Burke looks just like his Mom
@@mariacook8540 And he smiles incessantly, like a pageant princess.
Thank you
John Ramsey is lying
what you said about the windows on the front of the hose being Burkes room. All 3 are single pane windows but the picture from inside Burkes room that they say Jon was looking through with binoculars , is a double pane window. Where are the single pane windows? Doesn't make sense.
Well, it seems we have another mystery to solve. Whose room is it, upstairs, on the front end of the house?
@@TCRS You are actually right, it is Burke’s room. That window the OP is taking about is a side window. The three single pane windows are on the wall to the bottom of the beds and out of view of the photographs.
Give me grace 🙄 ~ as a fashion conscious woman myself ~ if I hear ONE more man STEREOTYPING and evaluating what Patsy was wearing that morning, like Steve Thomas, Cottonstar and now Nick - to use as evidence that Patsy was up all night. 🤦♀️
Have you even thought this through clearly and logically?
Serious question. How many fashion conscious women have you actually interviewed on this one point?
Patsy wearing the same 'neat and tidy' holiday outfit (with fresh makeup) that she wore for only a few hours the night before makes PERFECT sense to me - especially when traveling to another event with family.
Think it through step by step.
Have you ever won a beauty pageant?
@TCRS "Have you ever won a beauty pageant?"
I won 1st place in a female "Slave Sale" contest. Does that count? 😅
I was the first to train Gretchen Carlson on the computer when she was still reigning Miss America. She was very personable with me when one on one. Down to earth. Casual attire.
My older cousin was a prim and proper pageant winner in Florida. Then she became a wife and mother and managed her rich banker husband's golf course along with a quaint little bowling alley and restaurant. A lot of activity in her life. Perfect house, perfect kids. Everyone grew up and continues to live healthy and happy. Close family and loves entertaining. But she has never seemed overly obsessed with her attire in any unusual manner.
My college roommate was a pageant queen in Wisconsin, whom I also traveled with on occasion. She would easily wear the same outfit two times in a row - two different events.
One thing pageant queens know how to do is travel smart. Pack wisely.
Money has little to do with picking out your favorite outfits, and planning ahead, ESPECIALLY for the holidays.
There are only so many favorite red sweaters and black slacks a woman needs in her wardrobe. Especially when your audience changes with each event.
Patsy was no longer a pageant queen. She was a mother and a wife. Less fuss, Less muss is KEY in preparation.
From what we've learned, Patsy got up early, cleaned up, touched up, put on the same easy slacks and sweater, laid out the night before, and headed downstairs. Perfect traveling attire.
Most mothers know it's easier to get yourself ready first before starting your day.
If Patsy had worn that same outfit all night long (doing everything you are implying), the sweater would have been a stretched out MESS, cuffs and collar soiled, sweaty and the slacks most likely stained.
Did Steve Thomas ever check out THOSE important details? I think not.
Her fresh face points towards innocence.
Have you ever been a woman? Have you ever been a mother?
Turnaround is fairplay. 😉
@@nottthereyet4872 sorry, but if someone is wearing the same clothes in the morning that they wore the night before, I think the most obvious explanation is that they have been wearing them all night. The fact that Nick hasn't worked with quite as many beauty queens as you doesn't change that.
@PaulTaylor1 Nick asked me a question, and I answered authentically to give some perspective. Patsy, being a beauty queen years earlier, does not equate with never wearing the same outfit to two different activities. Unless, of course, the clothes are soiled. Other women I have talked with concur.
I agree that it is not that odd. She probably only wore the outfit a few hours. It was ready to go and would get a bit disheveled traveling anyway. Why waste fresh clothing and likely have to change again after you get there? The key is that you are seeing different people. I've seen my husband do this too. He wears a suit to one event and saves the time thinking about a new outfit and just wears it to another event where the people are different and won't recognize the re-wear. A lot of people travel in the same clothes on a long drive.
I believe Burke did it, Patsy covered from him. She moved the body, set the scene, wrote the ransom note.
They were all cleared.
@@rakesfunnyfarmwhy are you going through everyone’s comments saying this ? Cleared or not it’s pretty obvious people don’t believe it. I find it hard to believe that the courts got it right but the rest of the world is wrong. The number of people who think Burke or the parents were involved far outnumber those who don’t.
@@rakesfunnyfarmYawn.
Sooo ..... Where can this all go other than perpetuate this horrendous thing situation
The dad did it. Burke probably witnessed some portion of it. Both children severely mentally abused. Burke probably SA also. Family called in a “fixer” . Burke is the typical scape goat in the family. I smile and laugh inappropriately- it’s anxiety and stress response.
I think the dad was abusing them and Burke did it. Both parents knew they would be exposed after Burke killed her so they staged the scene.