I think it’s a bit illogical to talk about “combination” tanning. As you explain in your video, tanning is the process of preserving the hide before it is turned into leather. Much of what determines the ultimate quality of the leather is what happens to it after tanning, as with ChromExel. Only about 4% of leather used in shoemaking is vegetable tannned. Most of this will go into the making of insoles and outsoles. This is because vegetable tanning produces a product that is stiffer and less pliable than chrome tanned leather, so it is ideal for soles. Chrome tanning produces a more suple an pliable leather, which is more suited to being stretched over a last to make a shoe upper. It doesn’t necessarily mean it is inferior. You will get chrome tanned uppers on Allen Edmonds, Carmina, Crocket and Jones, and on bespoke shoes that cost thousands. The leather on Doc Martens is poor not because it is chrome tanned but because it is a mass-produced corrected grain that is just inferior to those used by better shoemakers.
Your videos have the most information whether talking boots, jeans, bags or just leather. Really feel dudes need to hit that subscribe button to thank you for looking out for all of us‼️😷👍🥾👖💼🐮
Great informative video. Just bought a pair of Horween Chromexcel leather Dr. Martens made in England boots for £140 I'm well pleased with them. Just wearing them around the house to break them in gently.
I got a pair of Sagara chromexcel horsehide boots on order, never would have found them if it wasn't for this channel! It's hard out there to find a good size 5 boot 😅
Very nice explanation of the various tanning processes used to make fine leather goods. I didn’t realize that the percentage of Chrome tanned leather was so high. Lots of useful info in your video. Thanks for sharing. Nick, here’s hoping you have a great Holiday Season and a Safe, Healthy, Joyous and Prosperous 2021!...Ed
Not too long a video yet packed with enough info . Gr8 job, thanks Nick ! We need a update review on Indonesian boots, how are they holding up? Do U know of other people's experiences? Seems many people on IG are buying from Bandung region bootmakers.
Hey Nick, If you ever get the chance, you could do a review on the Thursday Explorer boot. There aren't any reviews on that boot. Perhaps that would be a good idea? Very informative video btw!
What is it That tends to give leather a very distinctive leathery smell? I am noticing that smell less and less as I get older because I feel like there is some type of different process in creating leathers commonly found in consumer products. I remember walking by every belt rack in the store as a kid and inhaling deeply To smell that wonderful leather smell. That absolutely doesn't exist anymore except for in a very few places and types of product
From my understanding, people tend to wear out their soles first on most boots (given that they pay at least a little bit of attention to conditioning them once in a while) and even a pretty bad leather will last longer. Also, it's often the construction that fails on cheap boots, not the leather itself. As long as the construction holds, the tanning process of the leather isn't that big of a deal when it comes to longevity. I do prefer vegetable tanned leather though. It smells really nice, it looks good and vegetable tanning is not as bad for the environment (and tanners) as chrome tanning.
Yeah I have a pair of boots I have replaced the soles in 3 time an leather is still great. Only really care about duribilty if you are thinking like that.
A lot of info for todays video. Thanks Nick for all of the reviews you do. Very helpful. I was wondering if you could do a video update on your Thursday boots from 2 yrs ago. Also, maybe a video on Thursday shoe or their leather sneakers...? I am also curious about Helm boots and shoes, maybe a forthcoming review..? Thanks..
The main reason why Veg tanned leather is becoming so unpopular is largely the sheer price I'd say. When veg tanned products are costing as much as sometimes 3-4x the price of similar Chrome tanned alternatives, it really isn't worth the new hole in your wallet for the few benefits it provides. This gets even worse if you don't live in major countries like America or Britain etc... cause of currency conversions and import taxes often causing prices for some brands to blow out of proportion to extreme degrees. This is also ignoring shipping costs being amazingly high (sometimes costing half as much as the thing the person bought).
Since you're crazy about your green kudu boots nick, have you checked out John does green chromexcel boot with the new soles? It looks beautiful on their page
I prefer veg tan for my stuff ever since I learned about it. But most of those items are small stuff like belts, wallets, and straps. Overall I just try to buy less and stick with what I already have longer. Side note, I haven't seen you cover cordovan yet. Is it because you prefer more rugged leather styles? Just curious.
Excellent information. How do we know which leather it is? Some manufacturers don’t even tell you the tannery. I can pick out oil tanned or pull up but what about the English shoe manufacturers? Are they usually chrome/combination/ or veg?
Great job with your videos! Thanks. I’ve bought timberland Kendrick shoes? You definitely should know what time of leather they are. Please help me, how should I care them? What type of cream to use? Please, help me. I will appreciate that.
I love these shoes but I don't want that animals have to suffer due to me because I want leather shoes But I'm pretty sure there vegan alternative for these shoes So if you can make a video on those shoes it will be a great news for me
@@Stridewise Boot Broski (your new nickname) what's the deal with the wooden things that go inside boots? Necessary? Any brand you recommend for red wing blacksmith/iron rangers? Or should i just put that money towards more boots and not worry about it? Lol thanks!!
Sorry, all of my shoes and boots are veg tanned leather. I had a bag custom made for me a few years ago that cost me over $500 and they used chrome tanned leather that didn’t hold up a full year before it completely lost all of its structure and slumped in the corner looking like something the cat drug in. I will never again waste my money on anything made from leather unless it is 100% Full Grain Veg Tanned Leather.
Did you laugh at 3:59? Also did you seriously understate environmental issues? "Chrome tan is worse for the environment... That is not the case with veg tan IF that is priority for you" If? If you give a flying f*** about environment? Yeah, let's not care about minor things like environment, who needs that.
Wow I literally showed studies onscreen about how bad chrome tanning is for the environment and I still got in trouble for not getting *quite* upset about it enough for teksgeroi
This video isn't meant to be comprehensive information about the myriad of health effects that he was displaying on screen with studies. He more or less had to gloss over it in an otherwise chill video, and quickly rapid-firing bullet points of serious health issues is a liiiittle bit of an awkward shift of tone. But he wanted to include them, rather than exclude them, in a very general purpose video. This caused an awkward laugh. People laugh when they feel uncomfortable, all the time. Laughing does not mean something is funny.
@@jakemartin828 you sound like my therapist Jake lol it's true I often laugh when something is very sad, I think it's to release tension or something, my therapist hates it
I think it’s a bit illogical to talk about “combination” tanning. As you explain in your video, tanning is the process of preserving the hide before it is turned into leather. Much of what determines the ultimate quality of the leather is what happens to it after tanning, as with ChromExel. Only about 4% of leather used in shoemaking is vegetable tannned. Most of this will go into the making of insoles and outsoles. This is because vegetable tanning produces a product that is stiffer and less pliable than chrome tanned leather, so it is ideal for soles. Chrome tanning produces a more suple an pliable leather, which is more suited to being stretched over a last to make a shoe upper. It doesn’t necessarily mean it is inferior. You will get chrome tanned uppers on Allen Edmonds, Carmina, Crocket and Jones, and on bespoke shoes that cost thousands. The leather on Doc Martens is poor not because it is chrome tanned but because it is a mass-produced corrected grain that is just inferior to those used by better shoemakers.
Your videos have the most information whether talking boots, jeans, bags or just leather. Really feel dudes need to hit that subscribe button to thank you for looking out for all of us‼️😷👍🥾👖💼🐮
Great job explaining the differences between the types of leathers Nick! Thanks!
Those Parkhurst are sweet. I’m not big on green boots but damn there’s something about them.
Just received my first pair of Parkhurst boots today. They're awesome!
Great informative video. Just bought a pair of Horween Chromexcel leather Dr. Martens made in England boots for £140 I'm well pleased with them. Just wearing them around the house to break them in gently.
I got a pair of Sagara chromexcel horsehide boots on order, never would have found them if it wasn't for this channel! It's hard out there to find a good size 5 boot 😅
size 5?!?!?!
Wow Nick, that was really interesting, thank you. Merry Christmas!
Very nice explanation of the various tanning processes used to make fine leather goods. I didn’t realize that the percentage of Chrome tanned leather was so high. Lots of useful info in your video. Thanks for sharing. Nick, here’s hoping you have a great Holiday Season and a Safe, Healthy, Joyous and Prosperous 2021!...Ed
Grant Stone have those boots in Badalassi Carlo Wraxy Tobacco, and cater to EEE width. Thanks for name dropping them.
Not too long a video yet packed with enough info . Gr8 job, thanks Nick ! We need a update review on Indonesian boots, how are they holding up? Do U know of other people's experiences? Seems many people on IG are buying from Bandung region bootmakers.
Yo! I'm filming a video on indonesian boots tomorrow! got a well worn in pair, looks great. so worth the price
@@Stridewise I have a feeling I'll be ordering at least 2 pairs next yr from a cpl of names from Bandung! LOL!
Great in-depth video of different types of leather used for boots
Hey Nick, If you ever get the chance, you could do a review on the Thursday Explorer boot. There aren't any reviews on that boot. Perhaps that would be a good idea? Very informative video btw!
I saw them in person and are way too high up. If they make a shorter version, I would buy it.
What is it That tends to give leather a very distinctive leathery smell? I am noticing that smell less and less as I get older because I feel like there is some type of different process in creating leathers commonly found in consumer products. I remember walking by every belt rack in the store as a kid and inhaling deeply To smell that wonderful leather smell. That absolutely doesn't exist anymore except for in a very few places and types of product
From my understanding, people tend to wear out their soles first on most boots (given that they pay at least a little bit of attention to conditioning them once in a while) and even a pretty bad leather will last longer. Also, it's often the construction that fails on cheap boots, not the leather itself. As long as the construction holds, the tanning process of the leather isn't that big of a deal when it comes to longevity.
I do prefer vegetable tanned leather though. It smells really nice, it looks good and vegetable tanning is not as bad for the environment (and tanners) as chrome tanning.
Yeah I have a pair of boots I have replaced the soles in 3 time an leather is still great. Only really care about duribilty if you are thinking like that.
A lot of info for todays video. Thanks Nick for all of the reviews you do. Very helpful. I was wondering if you could do a video update on your Thursday boots from 2 yrs ago. Also, maybe a video on Thursday shoe or their leather sneakers...? I am also curious about Helm boots and shoes, maybe a forthcoming review..? Thanks..
Thanks Nick and Nadolig Llawen from Wales.
This is a great video. Very informative
Great content as always!
I see nick I click 😎
Just subscribed brilliant channel👌 and got myself my first red wing iron ranger,,
The main reason why Veg tanned leather is becoming so unpopular is largely the sheer price I'd say. When veg tanned products are costing as much as sometimes 3-4x the price of similar Chrome tanned alternatives, it really isn't worth the new hole in your wallet for the few benefits it provides. This gets even worse if you don't live in major countries like America or Britain etc... cause of currency conversions and import taxes often causing prices for some brands to blow out of proportion to extreme degrees. This is also ignoring shipping costs being amazingly high (sometimes costing half as much as the thing the person bought).
Indys are now 573 USD.
An educational video?! Nice 👍
Nicely explained Nick... now tell me, is that a new watch you are wearing sir? Looks like some kind of diver.
Super interesting and super informative 👌
This was great! Really informative. Are there affordable veg tanned options for us boot/leather lovers out here?
Since you're crazy about your green kudu boots nick, have you checked out John does green chromexcel boot with the new soles? It looks beautiful on their page
interested in seeing a video on tanning with fur on.. thanks
I prefer veg tan for my stuff ever since I learned about it. But most of those items are small stuff like belts, wallets, and straps. Overall I just try to buy less and stick with what I already have longer.
Side note, I haven't seen you cover cordovan yet. Is it because you prefer more rugged leather styles? Just curious.
When you going to get your Keith Urban on and get yourself some cowboy boots? Tap into a whole new market!
Excellent information. How do we know which leather it is? Some manufacturers don’t even tell you the tannery. I can pick out oil tanned or pull up but what about the English shoe manufacturers? Are they usually chrome/combination/ or veg?
Chrome tanned leather is not compatible with steel. Sheaths and holsters should be vegetable tanned.
Are those Red Wing boots in the thumbnail?
Whites! ua-cam.com/video/wuf6NuqSSTI/v-deo.html
Great job with your videos! Thanks. I’ve bought timberland Kendrick shoes? You definitely should know what time of leather they are. Please help me, how should I care them? What type of cream to use? Please, help me. I will appreciate that.
*chromium(III) sulfate
Do you happen to know how the calfskin used on Alden’s 405 boots is tanned?
Can you tell me the name of boot in the picture ?
Whites!
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What would you use to condition veg natural dublin veg tan leather?
hey Nick, you mentioned Kudu a few times. Was thinking to get my own Kudu leathers from Txture. Is it any different compared to cow hide boots?
Yeah it's lighter and stronger, but you get scars on it. I talk about kudu a bit in this video ua-cam.com/video/b9KympbYfmA/v-deo.html
The cover pic boot is so nice. Which brand and color is it?
Whites! Fantastic boots ua-cam.com/video/wuf6NuqSSTI/v-deo.html
@@Stridewise Thanks a lot. Looking forward to buy one.
Disappointed that you didn't go into more detail on the processes involved. Guess I'll have to watch how to made. Lol
I love these shoes but I don't want that animals have to suffer due to me because I want leather shoes
But I'm pretty sure there vegan alternative for these shoes
So if you can make a video on those shoes it will be a great news for me
What category does Red Wing black prairie leather fall under? Anybody? Thanks!
It's chrome tanned! Great quality though
@@Stridewise Boot Broski (your new nickname) what's the deal with the wooden things that go inside boots? Necessary? Any brand you recommend for red wing blacksmith/iron rangers? Or should i just put that money towards more boots and not worry about it? Lol thanks!!
Have you been getting out into the sun, tan is looking good...
Sorry, all of my shoes and boots are veg tanned leather. I had a bag custom made for me a few years ago that cost me over $500 and they used chrome tanned leather that didn’t hold up a full year before it completely lost all of its structure and slumped in the corner looking like something the cat drug in. I will never again waste my money on anything made from leather unless it is 100% Full Grain Veg Tanned Leather.
There is chrome tanned leather, veg tanned leather, combination tanned leather, and Doc Martins. I hate Doc Martins.
Did you laugh at 3:59? Also did you seriously understate environmental issues? "Chrome tan is worse for the environment... That is not the case with veg tan IF that is priority for you" If? If you give a flying f*** about environment? Yeah, let's not care about minor things like environment, who needs that.
Wow I literally showed studies onscreen about how bad chrome tanning is for the environment and I still got in trouble for not getting *quite* upset about it enough for teksgeroi
This video isn't meant to be comprehensive information about the myriad of health effects that he was displaying on screen with studies. He more or less had to gloss over it in an otherwise chill video, and quickly rapid-firing bullet points of serious health issues is a liiiittle bit of an awkward shift of tone. But he wanted to include them, rather than exclude them, in a very general purpose video.
This caused an awkward laugh. People laugh when they feel uncomfortable, all the time. Laughing does not mean something is funny.
@@jakemartin828 you sound like my therapist Jake lol it's true I often laugh when something is very sad, I think it's to release tension or something, my therapist hates it
Hey Nick, are you gay? I am just curious...