@@kaydog890 I mean, most gelatin seems to be animal based, even Kosher gelatin. The only non-animal based is the sea weed based one. As for the glue, yeah, I know it probably isn't animal based anymore.
Can you believe this stock was ~$235 at one time?? Today it's ~$12.50 (-95%). I'll bet all the insiders got out well before the stock price crashed, as usual. 😡
Thats what happens with most small stocks to be fair. If you don’t want your face to be ripped off, then just stick to high quality companies and don’t listen to kramer.
7:45 If the CEO allegedly bit of the tip of someone’s nose -I don’t think the company is beyond meat. CEO just acted upon his meat deficiency by supplementing some human flesh. Not beyond cannibalism.
I am in Agtech and former dairy farmer. I can tell you why beef is cheaper, the vast majority of feed fed to cattle are recycled inedible by products from. Some other product meant for human consumption. Like soybeans are grown for soy oil for Humans and the soybean meal and soy hulls for cattle, or ethanol.and beer making has distillers and spend brewers grains, wheat has wheat midds, cotton has cottonseed, canola oil has canola meal etc etc. All of this used to be land filled before humans figured out cows grew much more efficiently with a more dense and balanced diet. In addition cattle are ussualy located in colder wetter areas where the land isn't as good at making longer season grain crops and steep, wet, dry or rocky land is used for pasture since we can't farm row crops on it. Markets are pretty efficient overtime at allocation of resources to meet human needs and often things sound good in theory by in practice they are a disaster... Like fake meats.
Veggie burgers have been a thing for vegetarian consumers for a long time, but they are by nature a niche product. From a business standpoint I think it would have been more informative to examine how much money they spent on hype and on getting everywhere from hospital cafeterias to fast food chains to stock their product. Like so many start-ups they thought they would be able to turn a niche product into mainstream profit through nothing but hype and investment capital.
I tried it because of my girlfriend at mcdonalds expecting dogshit, it was better than other mcdonalds classics. How is it even niche when we have to initally swap to plant based meat due to sustainbility reasons? It will become the only option then. I just don't get why would this stock crash
Free range beef and pork is healthy, high fat doesn't necessarily mean anything if its good fat. Probably the most sustainable thing would be for the country as a whole to just eat a bit less but also embrace organ meats and less common cuts. Deer, lamb and some game birds are also delicious.
@LoylaDemiseem what recent scientific literature is clear on that? From what I understand, most of that science is based on a misunderstanding of cholesterol's effect on the body and is severely outdated. Excess fat consumption isn't great for you, but minimally heated saturated fats are some of the healthiest you can eat. Coconut oil and beef tallow are top of the list for healthy fats.
Something to keep in mind…part of the reason why beef is inexpensive is because it’s partially government subsidized…especially with corn and feed. The expensive vegetables to make beyond meat isn’t which leaves cost high. Secondly they should have stayed focused instead of making several different products and stay small and focused
per pond of food grain farmers recieve the most subsidies, after it comes the generic vegetable farmers. cattle farmers are actually some of the lowest on the list lmfao...
This has made no sense to me from the start and I don't mind being proven right, even if it took a bit. I eat a balanced diet and I don't even need to have meat all the time. But when I want to eat plants, I just eat plants. It's fine. I don't need a plant pretending to be a steak.
They are trying to appeal to the selfish gluttonous and obese western world that only care about taste and nothing else. Which clearly didn’t work. Humanity will eventually crumble to its own greed.
Right, but cows are sentient animals pretty much equal to two years old kids and murdering them for pleasure is wrong, so alternatives to the drugaddicts who pay money for that abhorrent addiction are welcome. I don't see too much hope until lab meat becomed widespreas, though.
If crop farming is so much less damaging to the environment than cattle ranching, why are they shutting down so much of the Dutch vegetable and crop farms? I don't believe anything anybody says anymore.
because they want to bankrupt the small producers, and increase the proffits of the large corporations.....they will have their meat supply secured, and you will eat bugs and cardboard meat-flavored burgers. And you will be happy, because they will put a lot of drugs in it, to keep you in line.
There are many non meat niche products to simulate real meat like Tofurkey but its meant to allow people who can't eat the real meat for one reason or another to hang out and be part of a social event like Thanks Giving dinner or grilling with family/friends so beyond meat fits in with something like Tofurkey but the issue is that Beyond Meat or the public or media created hype that is just blew it out of proportions but I think that is not great for the company to have to go through a boom and bust cycle rather than a calm and steady realistic market over time like Tofurkey which never had this kind of stock hype as far as I am aware of....
They shouldn't have been a public company then. Build it sustainably away from the casino that is the stock market. But then way fewer people would have given them money, just by the accredited investor rules. They wanted funny money from the start.
@@jasonduvall9480I found no problem understanding him. Yes punctuation helps but it's a comment not an English paper. Plus immigrants like me give no care about having poor punctuation because it makes me no extra money on the stock market or rental income.
Great vid. One point about Brazil's cheap grazing ground. It comes from setting fire to the Amazon and then letting grass grow on the burn land. It's only cheap cuz the true costs aren't factored in. PS I love steak. So this isn't a moral judgment, just some info I stumbled upon.
It's OK to have moral judgements. You can love steak and also say that it is wrong to set fire to the Amazon to produce steak. Both things can be true. Now we just need to figure out a way for steak lovers to have steak and not burn the Amazon down to eat it. It might sadly mean less steak but it doesn't have to mean zero steak.
Amazonians have been burning their land for thousands of years it is nothing new...contemporary eco warriors either don't know or don't want you to know that pre-euro Americans had dramatically altered the ecosystem
@@dutchybag Yes. And it has been linked to the decline of their empires and some historians believe it was a factor in their loss to the Europeans. Also, older societies didn't believe in the germ theory. Should we also continue in that vein? Your arguments will never be logical or sound so I guess that is why we have so much violence against people who are trying to save the ecosystem. Words will never defend your argument so you will have to spill blood.
I drove past a cattle facility in Oklahoma. Smelled it 15 miles before I saw it & it took 5 full minutes to drive past it: bare lots full of cows, standing there in their own filth. Smelled it a good 30 minutes after I passed the final lot.
For a bit I would get them on Fridays during lent (I’m Catholic and can’t eat meat on Fridays during lent, and optionally the rest of the year) but its so expensive for what you get. Never tastes as good. And extremely unsatisfying to eat. Yeah it fills you up, but can’t replace a real hamburger. Also stuff cooks extremely weird, and smells bad. Cleaning my pan is always a pain afterwards. I just stopped buying them. I want real meat not fake. If its an abstinence day I’ll just make something else. This is atleast anecdotal but at my Kroger I always see the section stocking their products get smaller and smaller. But always stay fully stocked.
@@cheesesniper473 It is totally legal ….but unfortunately I’m highly allergic to fish. So I always have to find something else. It still kinda amuses me to be Catholic but allergic to fish at the same time.
The satisfaction problem will be because meat protein and fat are highly nutritious and satisfying which isn't true of this fake stuff, even if they could make it taste the same.
A little correction... meat fat, when eaten in moderation, is healthy and very important for your body, on the other side, salt is salt, and you only need an extremely low quantity for your body to function perfectly.. so in healthy terms, beef wins
When you employ Kim Kardashian to promote it your beaten before you start. The same as using Kevin Oleary aka Mr Wonderful to promote FTX as well as Shaquele Oniell. The result is that these people get paid even if the company crashes. The COOthat bit the end off of some poor guys nose must have gone mad from eating the burger's ......lololol
Doesn't real beef have economies of scale (a handful own everything)? Also, doesn't meat get massive tax incentives? I know in Illinois, dairy is massively incentivized. Which is why milk costs $2.20 a gallon even after increases in prices over the year.
My biased answer is that subsidies for the livestock industry and sanitary/hazordous conditions in meat manufacturing would also have to be accounted for. But yeah if it costs more it's not going to do well in the market when budgets tighten on average there's not funding for rejection of meat on moral grounds.
Sorry but in my opinion the assumption you make that beyond meat is competing vs beef is wrong. Beyond meat is competing with other plant-based meat brands that are just cheaper and sometimes taste better. Here in Europe alot of the plant-based meats are on the same level and even cheaper than meat. Meat production is getting heavily subsidized almost everywhere in the world, that's why it's cheaper in some places still. It takes around 10 times more resources (corn, soy, grass) to feed a cow than to create plant-based meat from these resources.
That is only because you can afford to be vego. Given a survival situation, such niceties are quickly forgotten. Don't worry though, put a Lenin or Stalin in charge and you will soon be in a survival situation.
@@SF-eo6xf You're just making things up, but sure, ok. My entire family that eats meat are all on cholesterol lowering drugs, while my cholesterol level hasn't budged from 130 in 25 years. I eat very little Beyond Meat anyway, there are many other brands (I personally like Morningstar, Quorn and Tofurkey brands) and alternatives like beans and lentils. How do you think nearly the entire continent of India maintains a vegetarian diet? Eating cows pumped up with hormones and antibiotics sure sounds healthy to me.
@@deanpd3402 Do you know how cheap beans and lentils are? LOL, survival situation, it's not the 1920's. I'm sure the Russian peasants were not dining on filet mignon during the revolution.
@@sjn7220 I didn't say omnivores are automtically healthy. I didn't talk about vegetarians. Beef can be hormone free, grass fed. Innuits live just off fish and meat and are healthy. I have nothing against vegans but it is harder to be healthy on that diet than on a omnivore diet.
it is nice to see an increase in these types of videos made by someone who has a general understanding of modern agriculture instead of social influencer
Why does this need to be an independent company and not just a subsidiary of a major food conglomerate like Unilever, Nestle or Mondelez? Surely these companies already have the tech and expertise in place to develop products in this section of the market. I wonder if the reason this company was started and made public was as a way to make money - if it worked out they'd be billionaires, and even if it didn't, they'd still be able to get rich. (edit) Boca is kind of an example, it was a company that was bought out by Kraft.
@@Katie-xd1nt and they’re not bringing the mcplant anything to the US. It failed to sell but I don’t eat McDonald’s because they don’t even have vegan French fries.
I review food on my channel, and I've made a specific note to try out various meat alternative offerings over the years. In all my samplings, I've found continuously that the various types of plant-based proteins, just don't add up to the real deal. SOME, to their credit... Do get fairly close. But in every instance, they fall short somewhere. Maybe the taste, maybe the texture, maybe the way they cook, it's just fundamentally not the same product or outcome. And the thing is, it shouldn't even be a direct comparison. All of these products are marketed as being meat substitutes, when in reality, they should be marketed as simply meat alternatives. Not a replacement, just another option. A lot of negative backlash comes from people who are genuinely concerned that we'll live in a future where we won't be able to get a proper beef burger, and instead will have to settle for some sort of substitute. The goal of Beyond and the other options should always be not to take away from the beef and actual meat markets, and instead to stay in their lane and sell to the people who just want an alternative to meat already.
1:52 this is the part that I blame on to people, there should be at least 2 more questions: -How cruel it is to animals? -How bad is for the environment? Imagine just not caring that whatever you are buying caused significant pain, stress and torture to another living creature. That's "beyond" me.
Your talk about corn is meaningless. What matters is the calorie conversion rate, water consumption and use of fertilizers, pesticides, etc. Beef fails monumentally compared to plant-based copies and almost all other commonly consumed meats. What a terribly researched, biased video!
Real meat only has more fat if you buy that crazy meat you showed in the picture. I buy beef that has 8-12% fat, so that's less than the beyond meat thing.
The amount of fat depends mostly on how the cows are breeded. If you have large farms where they can feed themselves from the grass, they will have almost no fat........if they are artificially filled in the feedlots, they tend to have a lot of fat, because they don't exercise at all (and since they are sold for KG, is the same for the producers)
The United States federal government spends $38 billion every year subsidizing the meat and dairy industries. Research from 2015 shows this subsidization reduces the price of Big Macs from $13 to $5 and the price of a pound of hamburger meat from $30 to the $5 we see today. Subsidies, however, only reduce the price of meat, not its total cost. Subsidies shift part of the costs of meat production to non-meat consumers. In free markets for private goods, consumers should bear the costs of production. With subsidized meat, those who neither consume meat nor benefit from its production pay much of its cost of production. Nor do even the resulting higher subsidy expenditures account for the entire costs of meat subsidization.
2 things. Your numbers on the feed conversion rate are way off, it's commonly 6x-25x, not 2.6. Your comment on the salt content of the fake meat is irreverent given that you season beef before you consume it anyways, you can simply add less salt to the fake meat.
The "salt/sodium" issue is minor or non-existent issue; most people put salt on their hamburger or steaks since it would taste rather bland without it.
i've tried this "meat" and it is NOT indistinguishable from the real thing, it tastes like chemicals. to be fair, the flavour is pretty close, but you can clearly see the the difference edit: i am happy to know that Bill Gates is loosing money on this, it won't make any difference for him, but maybe he can start minding his own business and stop acting like a doctor and a scientist for the entire world
I am so glad someone actually did some research to understand most of the feed that goes to cattle are inedible to human by products and low quality land for pasture. I would just add there are many many other by products fed to cattle most common being distillers grain from ethanol production, cord gluten meal and feed are the by products of high fructose corn syrup and are fed but now a day much more distillers. Is available at low price and fed.
The enviromental impact of the meat industry is grossly exaggerated, when doing meta studies they found serious deficiencies in the methodology and cherry picked data. For example the water used, is not water consumed by cows, but ALL water that even falls on top of them... as if it wouldn't evaporate back into the atmosphere, etc.
Beyond is still hanging in there despite this prediction. Although it's true: if you're a vegetarian, you don't want your food to look like meat, and if you're a carnivore, you don't want fake eats.
These days there are certain phrases that make me cringe every time I hear them. "IPO", "tech", "startup" for example. This is just another case. As a veggie myself, I find I don't need to eat products that taste like meat. I'm happy with food that tastes like vegetables.
It's obvious they're failing considering the cost of all the R&D that has to go into making meat substitutes. Unfortunately, somebody's gotta bear the costs, because beef isn't very sustainable, and people are too selfish to give up meat.
Just for the record....the whole "SUBSTITUTES" industry is based on SPEED, not to save the environment nor being healthy... to make this "substitutes" you don't need to have a farm, nor have a long term investment, you just open a factory that mixes all the garbage you can find. You cannot produce enough meat for your own consumption (unless you are Argentina, but of course, you have other problems there).....specially a market like the USA, were 80% of the cow meat is not consumed. (in Argentina, except for the lungs, EVERYTHING ELSE is consumed, beef, ribs, neck, tongue (yes, tongue, search for "lengua a la vinagreta"), liver, intestintes (search for chinchulines a la parrilla), stomach (search for "guiso de mondongo", brain (yes, brains "sesos al ajo"), even kidneys (search for "riñones al limon")......bones are also sold (for soups, certain specific bones, from the spine specially), the testicles are used to make "mate" cups, same with the hooves, and rest of bones are chopped and sold to glue companies or fertilizer companies, and the leather sold for clothing). So you have to resource to foreign markets, which increase the time and logistics. This is exactly as the "meta-amphetamin" market trying to replace cocaine for recreational consumption.......USA cannot produce the cocaine plant, so they have to import it, but why to waste such amount of $$ and bribes, when you can produce a substitute in your own backyard and increase your proffits?..........same, why you will waste $$$ and time, waiting 2 years a cow grows, or having to import meat from another country..........when you can mix a lot of garbage you have in your basement, and sell it as meat?............imagine this garbage is already unhealthy (16gr of salt per 2x burgers, that is 3 times the max amount per day), but imagine how unhealthy it will be next, after they start to cut expenses putting less expensive things inside (in the end, probably will contain 90% of the corn they were feeding to cows)... The whole "core" of this "meat substitute" is to find the EXACT AMOUNT of artificial flavour in order to trick the people......then is up to mix the most garbage they can, as long the flavour remains...this is how this "industry" will become proffitable if it ever succeeds.
The big health problem with Beyond Meat is _not_ it's salt content (salt isn't nearly as bad for you as people seem to think) but rather it's incredibly high amounts of pseudo-estrogens contained in the soy proteins that comprised a significant portion of the substance.
"your plants kill every worm, cricket, and insect in the ground.... So how cute does an animal have to be before you give a crap about it?". - Yellowstone
FYI: Vegan diets still kill fewer animals INCLUDING crop harvesting deaths of small animals, insects, worms etc. because it takes far more plants to feed the 60 billion land animals slaughtered every year than it would to just feed 9 billion humans plants directly.
@@user-pc7ef5sb6x it’s really good actually. Just too expensive. Meat would be far more expensive too if it weren’t heavily subsidized by the government.
I mean, considering the meat industry receives billions in subsidies, I think it's going to be inevitable that meat substitutes are going to be more expensive even once you reach massive scale. The problem to me is that no vegetarian/vegan really _needs_ meat substitutes -- beans and rice and cheaper and healthier. To me the real problem with Beyond has very little to do with the demand for meat alternatives, but more to do with awful, rushed management that doesn't put in the necessary R&D into its products. While Impossible continues to show them up, and grocery store brands hit a better price point, I just don't see what BYND brings to the table.
I’m here to tell you the days of “cheap grazing land” are long gone and over. Get ready for all meat prices to rise especially as ponds dry up because of drought.
I can live with the off smell and fair taste of fake beef such as Beyond Meat. The killer to me is the price, fake meat should be cheaper, much cheaper. IMO, pricing is high because they, the investors, feel the market for such a product is too limited, not the masses. That leaves consumers like myself out. Surveys can be misleading. Price it reasonably for a while to see if consumers will bite and continue to consume.
That's not an excessive amount of salt at all, especially for something meant to be such a protein load. It's more salt than beef, sure. But it's nowhere near something like ramen. And re: health, more recent studies suggest high salt intake is only a risk for people with existing cardiovascular issues.
Plant protein is not the same as Meat protein. It doesn't have full stack amino-acids and it has them in far lower quantities AND the human body can't absorb them efficiently, its far less than 50%, while meat or eggs is above 100% efficient. So its far less nutritious than you think.
I tried it,....I was really hopping it would be a meat alternative I'd really like. Just like every health product I've tried, it was bad. Bland,....the flavor palate was off. It was garbage. The company that gets it right one day will change the world.
It's a niche product that lacks variety. I'd say they go public with too little and too fast. Their market is also shrinking fast as they lose cultural significance. This is what you get when you bet on the losing side, of whom blame their lost to fans and everyone around the stadium. People will forget they exist.
HOW can you give an equal health rating? First, animal fat is packed full of nutrients. Humans and Hominids have been eating it happily for 100s of thousands, if not millions of years. Second, plant-based protein is not easily bio-availalbe to humans. It's there, but it's the wrong TYPE of protein. So you can't make a direct comparison by just looking at the number of grams of protein. Plus, they taste awful. I ate one once and my stomach burned for hours afterwards. Never again!
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Bones are not useless. They are widely used in the chemical industry!
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@@socialmediayogini3887 Pay close attention to the words that you just wrote.
Imagine hiring Kim Kardashian for TASTE.
It's an ideal fit... she's super fake, and the company produces fake products. It's like a match made in heaven!
Fake personality, fake meat. Besides, she's popular (for some reason)
FYI: the bones are turned into gelatin for candy and jello products
Bone meal for fertilizer too
@@bradleydanks yep nothing of the animal goes to waste hell even the manure is turned into biogas to power the farming operation
And chicken feed
@@bradleydanks other than rock phosphate (which basically fossilized bird poop) bones are the only way to make phosphate based fertilizer.
@@samb123078 so you grow grass and corn to make bones which you process to make phosphate to fertilise grass and corn?
This guy: the bones are pretty much useless.
Gelatin and glue companies: Are we a joke to yiu?
Idk about mexico, but gelatin hasn't been animal based for the last 30 years. And, the chemical engineers are laughing at your cow glue...
@@kaydog890 I mean, most gelatin seems to be animal based, even Kosher gelatin. The only non-animal based is the sea weed based one. As for the glue, yeah, I know it probably isn't animal based anymore.
also bonemeal for fertilizers
@@kaydog890 wtf are you babbling about? seaweed gelatin is chewy. most gelatin in west is pig. otherwise it is cow
bones are used to make meat stocks and broths, as well as processed to be incorporated in animal feed, nothing goes to waste
Can you believe this stock was ~$235 at one time?? Today it's ~$12.50 (-95%). I'll bet all the insiders got out well before the stock price crashed, as usual. 😡
Jeremy Lefebvre - Financial and other youtubers pumping this stock
Gimmicks always end up in pump and dumps, the whole vegan industry is built on stupidity and ignorance.
@@thienlo probably got paid under the table.
Thats what happens with most small stocks to be fair. If you don’t want your face to be ripped off, then just stick to high quality companies and don’t listen to kramer.
PUMP AND DUMP BY THE ELITES
The irony that the COO got arrested for trying to eat meat 😂
He bit someone
"Our product is such a poor substitute for meat that one of our executives resorted to cannibalism" isn't a great sales pitch.
@@desertdude540 hehehe thanks for this comment
7:45 If the CEO allegedly bit of the tip of someone’s nose -I don’t think the company is beyond meat. CEO just acted upon his meat deficiency by supplementing some human flesh. Not beyond cannibalism.
Underrated comment.
COO
That was the COO 🤣
Is cannibalism the real solution to global warming? 😅
@@doomtomb3 Cannibal Operating Officer🤔🤔?
I remember a lot of UA-camrs from Las Vegas loves promoting this stock
Ofc gambling addicts gonna be like that
Beyond meat should definitely not be tied with real beef for health. Look at the ingredients list.
I am in Agtech and former dairy farmer. I can tell you why beef is cheaper, the vast majority of feed fed to cattle are recycled inedible by products from. Some other product meant for human consumption. Like soybeans are grown for soy oil for Humans and the soybean meal and soy hulls for cattle, or ethanol.and beer making has distillers and spend brewers grains, wheat has wheat midds, cotton has cottonseed, canola oil has canola meal etc etc. All of this used to be land filled before humans figured out cows grew much more efficiently with a more dense and balanced diet. In addition cattle are ussualy located in colder wetter areas where the land isn't as good at making longer season grain crops and steep, wet, dry or rocky land is used for pasture since we can't farm row crops on it. Markets are pretty efficient overtime at allocation of resources to meet human needs and often things sound good in theory by in practice they are a disaster... Like fake meats.
In short…. Attempt to reinvent the wheel = FAIL
Veggie burgers have been a thing for vegetarian consumers for a long time, but they are by nature a niche product. From a business standpoint I think it would have been more informative to examine how much money they spent on hype and on getting everywhere from hospital cafeterias to fast food chains to stock their product. Like so many start-ups they thought they would be able to turn a niche product into mainstream profit through nothing but hype and investment capital.
I tried it because of my girlfriend at mcdonalds expecting dogshit, it was better than other mcdonalds classics. How is it even niche when we have to initally swap to plant based meat due to sustainbility reasons? It will become the only option then. I just don't get why would this stock crash
@@oneofmany31 DID YOU EVER THINK THAT POISON PLANT MEAT SLUDGE WILL BE FULL OF PESTOCIDES THAN MASHED UP INTO A PATTY
Free range beef and pork is healthy, high fat doesn't necessarily mean anything if its good fat. Probably the most sustainable thing would be for the country as a whole to just eat a bit less but also embrace organ meats and less common cuts. Deer, lamb and some game birds are also delicious.
Consumption of dietary saturated fat and cholesterol has an adverse effect on human health. The scientific literature has been pretty clear on that.
It's not healthy for the victims. 100% of them are murdered to "produce" (steal) meat.
fr I tag two deer a year and I'm set. AND I have enough extra cuts/organs that we don't eat that I can make dog food for the neighbor.
@LoylaDemiseem what recent scientific literature is clear on that? From what I understand, most of that science is based on a misunderstanding of cholesterol's effect on the body and is severely outdated.
Excess fat consumption isn't great for you, but minimally heated saturated fats are some of the healthiest you can eat. Coconut oil and beef tallow are top of the list for healthy fats.
This is a shame. I've actually enjoy their products.
Disgusting. Just eat meat.
@@Cuyt24 Yeah, note taken.
probably worth looking into the health risks, friend.
Beyond Sense. Beyond Profits. Beyond Meat.
Beyond Hope
Something to keep in mind…part of the reason why beef is inexpensive is because it’s partially government subsidized…especially with corn and feed. The expensive vegetables to make beyond meat isn’t which leaves cost high.
Secondly they should have stayed focused instead of making several different products and stay small and focused
Where exactly is beef inexpensive? Feed is expensive precisely because of government subsidies.. for ethanol.
Beef cost is also low in other countries. Agri subsidy mostly benefit the high fructose corn syrup industry.
per pond of food grain farmers recieve the most subsidies, after it comes the generic vegetable farmers. cattle farmers are actually some of the lowest on the list lmfao...
Vegan propaganda
This has made no sense to me from the start and I don't mind being proven right, even if it took a bit. I eat a balanced diet and I don't even need to have meat all the time. But when I want to eat plants, I just eat plants. It's fine. I don't need a plant pretending to be a steak.
They are trying to appeal to the selfish gluttonous and obese western world that only care about taste and nothing else. Which clearly didn’t work. Humanity will eventually crumble to its own greed.
right but cows are the reason the world's co2 emissions are out of control.. and I love steak
@@oliverbennett7610 really? i thought it was politicians and activist farts and you know the love smelling each other and their own farts
Right, but cows are sentient animals pretty much equal to two years old kids and murdering them for pleasure is wrong, so alternatives to the drugaddicts who pay money for that abhorrent addiction are welcome. I don't see too much hope until lab meat becomed widespreas, though.
@@lautaroka5847😂 I honestly don’t give a crab to the cows as long as they are slaughtered in a sanitized facility.
Beyond Meat is beyond hope.
Not beyond hype.
The cost of the anti vomiting medication cost? This is disgusting tasting.
A shitty product with a flimsy and flawed premise and business plan is going to fail? Who could have seen that coming?!
If crop farming is so much less damaging to the environment than cattle ranching, why are they shutting down so much of the Dutch vegetable and crop farms? I don't believe anything anybody says anymore.
because they want to bankrupt the small producers, and increase the proffits of the large corporations.....they will have their meat supply secured, and you will eat bugs and cardboard meat-flavored burgers. And you will be happy, because they will put a lot of drugs in it, to keep you in line.
There are many non meat niche products to simulate real meat like Tofurkey but its meant to allow people who can't eat the real meat for one reason or another to hang out and be part of a social event like Thanks Giving dinner or grilling with family/friends so beyond meat fits in with something like Tofurkey but the issue is that Beyond Meat or the public or media created hype that is just blew it out of proportions but I think that is not great for the company to have to go through a boom and bust cycle rather than a calm and steady realistic market over time like Tofurkey which never had this kind of stock hype as far as I am aware of....
Punctuation is your friend.
@@jasonduvall9480 He has them. It's all neatly arranged at the end.
They shouldn't have been a public company then. Build it sustainably away from the casino that is the stock market. But then way fewer people would have given them money, just by the accredited investor rules. They wanted funny money from the start.
@@jasonduvall9480I found no problem understanding him. Yes punctuation helps but it's a comment not an English paper. Plus immigrants like me give no care about having poor punctuation because it makes me no extra money on the stock market or rental income.
@@kingkong8974 Neither does taking a shower or cleaning your butt, but you do those. So, poor argument.
Another farmer found a way to make plants taste just like meet, he first feed the plants to cows, then ate the cow LOL.
What does meet tastes like? I grew up on meat and animal murder. Does meet tastes like human? Perhaps a variant of cannibalism? Pray tell.
Learn to spell Borat.
@@garrettbot143tastes well, beekiller.
Vegans are bee-exploiters.
Lol
People should not put this synthetic sh1t in their bodies
I like beyond burgers so hearing about the poor conditions of their production facilities is pretty gross.
Great vid. One point about Brazil's cheap grazing ground. It comes from setting fire to the Amazon and then letting grass grow on the burn land. It's only cheap cuz the true costs aren't factored in. PS I love steak. So this isn't a moral judgment, just some info I stumbled upon.
Most of it is in Patanal, south of Amazon
It's OK to have moral judgements. You can love steak and also say that it is wrong to set fire to the Amazon to produce steak. Both things can be true. Now we just need to figure out a way for steak lovers to have steak and not burn the Amazon down to eat it. It might sadly mean less steak but it doesn't have to mean zero steak.
@@raslalique Or alternatively burn down more forest and get more steak
Amazonians have been burning their land for thousands of years it is nothing new...contemporary eco warriors either don't know or don't want you to know that pre-euro Americans had dramatically altered the ecosystem
@@dutchybag Yes. And it has been linked to the decline of their empires and some historians believe it was a factor in their loss to the Europeans. Also, older societies didn't believe in the germ theory. Should we also continue in that vein? Your arguments will never be logical or sound so I guess that is why we have so much violence against people who are trying to save the ecosystem. Words will never defend your argument so you will have to spill blood.
I drove past a cattle facility in Oklahoma. Smelled it 15 miles before I saw it & it took 5 full minutes to drive past it: bare lots full of cows, standing there in their own filth. Smelled it a good 30 minutes after I passed the final lot.
Yeah it's horrible. One of the reasons I'm Vegan.
too bad cows can flush their filth..like u do
For a bit I would get them on Fridays during lent (I’m Catholic and can’t eat meat on Fridays during lent, and optionally the rest of the year) but its so expensive for what you get. Never tastes as good. And extremely unsatisfying to eat. Yeah it fills you up, but can’t replace a real hamburger. Also stuff cooks extremely weird, and smells bad. Cleaning my pan is always a pain afterwards.
I just stopped buying them. I want real meat not fake. If its an abstinence day I’ll just make something else.
This is atleast anecdotal but at my Kroger I always see the section stocking their products get smaller and smaller. But always stay fully stocked.
Fish is legal for lent.
Just sayin 😁
@@cheesesniper473 It is totally legal ….but unfortunately I’m highly allergic to fish. So I always have to find something else.
It still kinda amuses me to be Catholic but allergic to fish at the same time.
The satisfaction problem will be because meat protein and fat are highly nutritious and satisfying which isn't true of this fake stuff, even if they could make it taste the same.
@@Lync512 lame, lol.
if I want something meat-y without the meat I just eat grilled mushrooms with steak sauce lol
A little correction... meat fat, when eaten in moderation, is healthy and very important for your body, on the other side, salt is salt, and you only need an extremely low quantity for your body to function perfectly.. so in healthy terms, beef wins
Consumption of dietary saturated fat and cholesterol has an adverse effect on human health. The scientific literature has been pretty clear on that.
@@LoylaDemiseem The same scientists said it was healthy to smoke a pack of cigarretes per day not so long ago.
When you employ Kim Kardashian to promote it your beaten before you start. The same as using Kevin Oleary aka Mr Wonderful to promote FTX as well as Shaquele Oniell. The result is that these people get paid even if the company crashes. The COOthat bit the end off of some poor guys nose must have gone mad from eating the burger's ......lololol
Doesn't real beef have economies of scale (a handful own everything)? Also, doesn't meat get massive tax incentives? I know in Illinois, dairy is massively incentivized. Which is why milk costs $2.20 a gallon even after increases in prices over the year.
My biased answer is that subsidies for the livestock industry and sanitary/hazordous conditions in meat manufacturing would also have to be accounted for. But yeah if it costs more it's not going to do well in the market when budgets tighten on average there's not funding for rejection of meat on moral grounds.
Sorry but in my opinion the assumption you make that beyond meat is competing vs beef is wrong. Beyond meat is competing with other plant-based meat brands that are just cheaper and sometimes taste better. Here in Europe alot of the plant-based meats are on the same level and even cheaper than meat. Meat production is getting heavily subsidized almost everywhere in the world, that's why it's cheaper in some places still. It takes around 10 times more resources (corn, soy, grass) to feed a cow than to create plant-based meat from these resources.
-259M in cash flow 😂😂 that's a lot of damage
I SAWED THIS SHARE VALUE IN HALF!
I eat meat but I like the taste of the beyond meat patties, I hope they will survive.
Correction: Bones aren't useless. They're ground up and thrown into chicken feed.
I applaud their effort. Some of us just don't want to kill animals for their diet.
That is only because you can afford to be vego. Given a survival situation, such niceties are quickly forgotten. Don't worry though, put a Lenin or Stalin in charge and you will soon be in a survival situation.
So unhealthy for you though. Beyond meat will make you pay with your health in the long term
@@SF-eo6xf You're just making things up, but sure, ok. My entire family that eats meat are all on cholesterol lowering drugs, while my cholesterol level hasn't budged from 130 in 25 years. I eat very little Beyond Meat anyway, there are many other brands (I personally like Morningstar, Quorn and Tofurkey brands) and alternatives like beans and lentils. How do you think nearly the entire continent of India maintains a vegetarian diet?
Eating cows pumped up with hormones and antibiotics sure sounds healthy to me.
@@deanpd3402 Do you know how cheap beans and lentils are? LOL, survival situation, it's not the 1920's. I'm sure the Russian peasants were not dining on filet mignon during the revolution.
@@sjn7220 I didn't say omnivores are automtically healthy. I didn't talk about vegetarians. Beef can be hormone free, grass fed. Innuits live just off fish and meat and are healthy. I have nothing against vegans but it is harder to be healthy on that diet than on a omnivore diet.
Meat substitute is so stupid. Either eat meat or don’t! Can’t you control yourself?
NONSENSE I love BM products it tastes very good and as vegetarian it is the only fake beef I eat
it is nice to see an increase in these types of videos made by someone who has a general understanding of modern agriculture instead of social influencer
Why does this need to be an independent company and not just a subsidiary of a major food conglomerate like Unilever, Nestle or Mondelez? Surely these companies already have the tech and expertise in place to develop products in this section of the market. I wonder if the reason this company was started and made public was as a way to make money - if it worked out they'd be billionaires, and even if it didn't, they'd still be able to get rich.
(edit) Boca is kind of an example, it was a company that was bought out by Kraft.
big companies dont invest in something that doesnt work
@@chimponkoman the mcplant is so popular in the uk theyre bringing out a bigmac variant this month?
@@Katie-xd1nt and they’re not bringing the mcplant anything to the US. It failed to sell but I don’t eat McDonald’s because they don’t even have vegan French fries.
No wonder I don't see beyond meat in Costco the other days.
Honestly they are miles away from taste like real beef at all
the problem is not they taste like a soaked worn sock, but the fact is extremely UNHEALTHY, oversaturated with sodium.
If I can buy real meat for less than fake meat, it's a no brainer.
I review food on my channel, and I've made a specific note to try out various meat alternative offerings over the years. In all my samplings, I've found continuously that the various types of plant-based proteins, just don't add up to the real deal. SOME, to their credit... Do get fairly close. But in every instance, they fall short somewhere. Maybe the taste, maybe the texture, maybe the way they cook, it's just fundamentally not the same product or outcome. And the thing is, it shouldn't even be a direct comparison. All of these products are marketed as being meat substitutes, when in reality, they should be marketed as simply meat alternatives. Not a replacement, just another option. A lot of negative backlash comes from people who are genuinely concerned that we'll live in a future where we won't be able to get a proper beef burger, and instead will have to settle for some sort of substitute. The goal of Beyond and the other options should always be not to take away from the beef and actual meat markets, and instead to stay in their lane and sell to the people who just want an alternative to meat already.
1:52 this is the part that I blame on to people, there should be at least 2 more questions:
-How cruel it is to animals?
-How bad is for the environment?
Imagine just not caring that whatever you are buying caused significant pain, stress and torture to another living creature. That's "beyond" me.
Most cows in America are breed in industrial feedlots.
Your talk about corn is meaningless. What matters is the calorie conversion rate, water consumption and use of fertilizers, pesticides, etc. Beef fails monumentally compared to plant-based copies and almost all other commonly consumed meats. What a terribly researched, biased video!
It's funny the same people who are against "processed foods" are all about beyond meat. A super processed food
Real meat only has more fat if you buy that crazy meat you showed in the picture. I buy beef that has 8-12% fat, so that's less than the beyond meat thing.
The amount of fat depends mostly on how the cows are breeded. If you have large farms where they can feed themselves from the grass, they will have almost no fat........if they are artificially filled in the feedlots, they tend to have a lot of fat, because they don't exercise at all (and since they are sold for KG, is the same for the producers)
@@nicolashrv Minced meat fat is based on the cuts chosen and the amount of fat removed or added.
The United States federal government spends $38 billion every year subsidizing the meat and dairy industries. Research from 2015 shows this subsidization reduces the price of Big Macs from $13 to $5 and the price of a pound of hamburger meat from $30 to the $5 we see today. Subsidies, however, only reduce the price of meat, not its total cost. Subsidies shift part of the costs of meat production to non-meat consumers. In free markets for private goods, consumers should bear the costs of production. With subsidized meat, those who neither consume meat nor benefit from its production pay much of its cost of production. Nor do even the resulting higher subsidy expenditures account for the entire costs of meat subsidization.
Problem is ppl don’t care about environment
Anyone who uses a pornstar to promote their product(KK) deserves to go under.
Technically not a porn stat but you make a good point either way
Highly processed food is slowly killing you. Beyond Meat is heavily processed.
Beyond is a way for vegetarians like me to get protein. Sustainability is important too.
Beans are better. Down want to eat beef? Don't eat beef
Beyond Meat: "Lets become vegetarians!"
Doug "Nose Biter" Ramsey: "I'm a Humanitarian!"
Lots of other alternative meat producers that don't lose money the category will do well but beyond meat looks like beyond saving
2 things. Your numbers on the feed conversion rate are way off, it's commonly 6x-25x, not 2.6. Your comment on the salt content of the fake meat is irreverent given that you season beef before you consume it anyways, you can simply add less salt to the fake meat.
Bone is a major calcium source for fertilizer and other substances🦴
also used in glue industry, and to produce gelatine.
The "salt/sodium" issue is minor or non-existent issue; most people put salt on their hamburger or steaks since it would taste rather bland without it.
And yet here we are, over a year later, and Beyond Meat is still a thing despite no infusions of cash.
Oh wow who would have thought no one wanted to eat that crap lmao
“Where’s the beef?” Herb wants to know.
i've tried this "meat" and it is NOT indistinguishable from the real thing, it tastes like chemicals.
to be fair, the flavour is pretty close, but you can clearly see the the difference
edit: i am happy to know that Bill Gates is loosing money on this, it won't make any difference for him, but maybe he can start minding his own business and stop acting like a doctor and a scientist for the entire world
Well said.
More importantly how much water did it take for all the vegetables in the fake meat compared to how much water a cow needs.
Maybe Elon Musk can buy it, fire all the health supervisors and unban beef from the product. 😂
Its really more profound than it sounds. XD
I love it! It really is the regulation holding back the growth. 😂
I am so glad someone actually did some research to understand most of the feed that goes to cattle are inedible to human by products and low quality land for pasture. I would just add there are many many other by products fed to cattle most common being distillers grain from ethanol production, cord gluten meal and feed are the by products of high fructose corn syrup and are fed but now a day much more distillers. Is available at low price and fed.
The enviromental impact of the meat industry is grossly exaggerated, when doing meta studies they found serious deficiencies in the methodology and cherry picked data. For example the water used, is not water consumed by cows, but ALL water that even falls on top of them... as if it wouldn't evaporate back into the atmosphere, etc.
Beyond is still hanging in there despite this prediction. Although it's true: if you're a vegetarian, you don't want your food to look like meat, and if you're a carnivore, you don't want fake eats.
These days there are certain phrases that make me cringe every time I hear them. "IPO", "tech", "startup" for example. This is just another case. As a veggie myself, I find I don't need to eat products that taste like meat. I'm happy with food that tastes like vegetables.
Not going to overpay for rice and beans
If you check the ingredients, it's the same stuff as vegan dog food. So Beyond Meat, Impossible Burger ect, are basically vegan dog food. Bow wow.
And the prices they charge for this crap are ridiculous.
Uh... Fat is actually good for you. I guess you didn't get the memo.
I think there's some irony there with the COO of a vegetarian "meat" company getting arrested for biting someone's nose off.
Siting a study by Purdue is pretty meaningless. Couldn’t be more biased
*Citing
Not unless he verified it with other stats and information. Don't want him to get sued for not giving Purdue credit would you
It's obvious they're failing considering the cost of all the R&D that has to go into making meat substitutes. Unfortunately, somebody's gotta bear the costs, because beef isn't very sustainable, and people are too selfish to give up meat.
Just for the record....the whole "SUBSTITUTES" industry is based on SPEED, not to save the environment nor being healthy... to make this "substitutes" you don't need to have a farm, nor have a long term investment, you just open a factory that mixes all the garbage you can find.
You cannot produce enough meat for your own consumption (unless you are Argentina, but of course, you have other problems there).....specially a market like the USA, were 80% of the cow meat is not consumed. (in Argentina, except for the lungs, EVERYTHING ELSE is consumed, beef, ribs, neck, tongue (yes, tongue, search for "lengua a la vinagreta"), liver, intestintes (search for chinchulines a la parrilla), stomach (search for "guiso de mondongo", brain (yes, brains "sesos al ajo"), even kidneys (search for "riñones al limon")......bones are also sold (for soups, certain specific bones, from the spine specially), the testicles are used to make "mate" cups, same with the hooves, and rest of bones are chopped and sold to glue companies or fertilizer companies, and the leather sold for clothing).
So you have to resource to foreign markets, which increase the time and logistics.
This is exactly as the "meta-amphetamin" market trying to replace cocaine for recreational consumption.......USA cannot produce the cocaine plant, so they have to import it, but why to waste such amount of $$ and bribes, when you can produce a substitute in your own backyard and increase your proffits?..........same, why you will waste $$$ and time, waiting 2 years a cow grows, or having to import meat from another country..........when you can mix a lot of garbage you have in your basement, and sell it as meat?............imagine this garbage is already unhealthy (16gr of salt per 2x burgers, that is 3 times the max amount per day), but imagine how unhealthy it will be next, after they start to cut expenses putting less expensive things inside (in the end, probably will contain 90% of the corn they were feeding to cows)...
The whole "core" of this "meat substitute" is to find the EXACT AMOUNT of artificial flavour in order to trick the people......then is up to mix the most garbage they can, as long the flavour remains...this is how this "industry" will become proffitable if it ever succeeds.
You can't beat the meat. No pun intended.
I have discovered an amazing new method for using plants to make meat... feed them to cows.
I have a revolutionary way to turn bugs into food too. I feed them to chickens.
I never once bought beyond meat
The COO missed the taste of real meat.
Another of those companies that will bite the dust in 2023
Who else?
@@harmhoeks5996 Carvana
Cow bones are used to make beef stock. When a cow is sent to be slaughtered they use every aspect of it.
The big health problem with Beyond Meat is _not_ it's salt content (salt isn't nearly as bad for you as people seem to think) but rather it's incredibly high amounts of pseudo-estrogens contained in the soy proteins that comprised a significant portion of the substance.
Soy is good for you. Being strong and manly is overrated.
Some of the most ripped people I know are vegans btw.
Pseudoscience.
@@poodlelord No it isn't.
Beyond Meat uses Pea Protein, not Soy Protein.
Beyond doesn’t use soy, it is one of their selling points.
It tastes like cardboard. That's it.
How does Beyond Meat compare to Impossible? Is this issue systemic to the fake meat industry or just Beyond?
So…does that mean Impossible won? Impossible Whopper is the one I see most prominently.
"your plants kill every worm, cricket, and insect in the ground.... So how cute does an animal have to be before you give a crap about it?". - Yellowstone
You will eat zero bugs -Klaus schwab
FYI: Vegan diets still kill fewer animals INCLUDING crop harvesting deaths of small animals, insects, worms etc. because it takes far more plants to feed the 60 billion land animals slaughtered every year than it would to just feed 9 billion humans plants directly.
Damn I love their product
Said no one ever. They crappy products were always in stock at every store. No one bought their garbage
@@user-pc7ef5sb6x it’s really good actually. Just too expensive. Meat would be far more expensive too if it weren’t heavily subsidized by the government.
@@kindasoupie stop lying to yourself
@@user-pc7ef5sb6x you strike me as mentally ill xx ❤️ good night love
@@kindasoupie maybe you should eat more meat so you can have more blood circulation in your brain
Maybe Mr. Ramsey preferred real meat....
I mean, considering the meat industry receives billions in subsidies, I think it's going to be inevitable that meat substitutes are going to be more expensive even once you reach massive scale. The problem to me is that no vegetarian/vegan really _needs_ meat substitutes -- beans and rice and cheaper and healthier.
To me the real problem with Beyond has very little to do with the demand for meat alternatives, but more to do with awful, rushed management that doesn't put in the necessary R&D into its products. While Impossible continues to show them up, and grocery store brands hit a better price point, I just don't see what BYND brings to the table.
it not just the meat industry all agriculture industry got alot of subsidies to stabilize the food price and national security
The subsidies are why sugar costs much more in the US and companies use high fructose corn syrup as the cheaper option.
I’m here to tell you the days of “cheap grazing land” are long gone and over. Get ready for all meat prices to rise especially as ponds dry up because of drought.
I can live with the off smell and fair taste of fake beef such as Beyond Meat. The killer to me is the price, fake meat should be cheaper, much cheaper. IMO, pricing is high because they, the investors, feel the market for such a product is too limited, not the masses. That leaves consumers like myself out.
Surveys can be misleading. Price it reasonably for a while to see if consumers will bite and continue to consume.
That's not an excessive amount of salt at all, especially for something meant to be such a protein load. It's more salt than beef, sure. But it's nowhere near something like ramen. And re: health, more recent studies suggest high salt intake is only a risk for people with existing cardiovascular issues.
Plant protein is not the same as Meat protein. It doesn't have full stack amino-acids and it has them in far lower quantities AND the human body can't absorb them efficiently, its far less than 50%, while meat or eggs is above 100% efficient.
So its far less nutritious than you think.
Beyond meet tasts nothing like real meat. It doesn't tast bad but it doesn't taste like meat.
I tried it,....I was really hopping it would be a meat alternative I'd really like.
Just like every health product I've tried, it was bad.
Bland,....the flavor palate was off. It was garbage.
The company that gets it right one day will change the world.
say no to zombie meat
It's a niche product that lacks variety. I'd say they go public with too little and too fast. Their market is also shrinking fast as they lose cultural significance.
This is what you get when you bet on the losing side, of whom blame their lost to fans and everyone around the stadium. People will forget they exist.
HOW can you give an equal health rating? First, animal fat is packed full of nutrients. Humans and Hominids have been eating it happily for 100s of thousands, if not millions of years. Second, plant-based protein is not easily bio-availalbe to humans. It's there, but it's the wrong TYPE of protein. So you can't make a direct comparison by just looking at the number of grams of protein. Plus, they taste awful. I ate one once and my stomach burned for hours afterwards. Never again!
My day immediately got better as soon as I read that title.